June 11, 2024 • 54 mins
Danny Hurley turning down a mega-offer from the Lakers is as embarrassing as it gets. Longtime NFL Insider Jason La Canfora joins the show. And the guys explain why leaving Caitlin Clark off of Team USA was a missed opportunity. Plus, a visit from Lakers Beat Writer Dan Woike!
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We got a couple of days off between now and
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We had a big hacking going on on social media today.
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It doesn't traded the Mets, you know, Lindor to the A's.
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But Buster Only, we we'll get into Buster early. But
his account on Twitter has been restored, and it looks
like the the thief, the the hacker was never there.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Poof.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
It's like in uh when when he when Kevin Spacey
does the poof at the end of Usual Suspects, heier
SoSE poof, he disappeared.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
The guy just disappears from the internet. He's gone. But
today he.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Was a day because oh my goodness, the Lakers are
completely embarrassed and have been completely embarrassed by Danny Hurley.
Danny Hurley rejected the Lakers offer of six years and
seventy million dollars to come coach Lakers and instead will
return to Yukon to chase a third straight national title.
(02:23):
In a statement today, he said, I'm humbled by the experience.
At the end of the day, I want to go
back to Yukon. We're getting better this summer as we
continue to pursue championships. And just as important is that
Governor ned Lamont. The governor said, don't worry, we are
going to make sure Danny Hurley is the top paid
coach in college basketball.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Calhoun is pissed.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Oh boy, what was it take tonight? What was it
take tonight?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
The first things first for the Lakers before we get
to Danny Hurley. This is so unbelievably embarrassing. I mean,
this shows you that the Lakers are just They're just
another They're just another franchise. Now, there's no you don't
say no to the Lakers. There's no They went after
their guy and they played it, Hey, we're gonna come
(03:08):
over the top and offer that that you can't say
no to because we're the Lakers. And the guy chose
to stay at college basketball. The guy chose to stay
in stores, Connecticut rather than come coach the Lakers, which
supposedly is such a great gig. This tells you where
the Lakers are at right now, and and and what
people think.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Of the job. It's awful. This is so embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
How do you go so publicly after one guy and
get told no, not that you lost a bidding war,
just I'd rather stay in college, man, than come to
the NBA and don't give me this. Oh, well, you
know the NBA. The jobs aren't what they used to
be there. No, this is the Lakers, right, This was
the Lakers and you were told no, we're not doing it.
(03:51):
This is embarrassing on so many levels. Like, you don't
run this this whole gamut with Danny Hurley unless you
know you're getting him, Like, you don't go public, you don't,
you don't have Hey, we're going to prepare a.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Huge offer of him.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
You don't let this go the way it is unless
you know you're getting out. Remember, but certain certain places
you can say no to it. Hey, we were talked
to a couple of different guys. Beer's supposed to be
the Lakers man, and you know somebody could say, yeah, no,
I'm not gonna take it.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Like, how do you not know?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Like that?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
That's what's so embarrassing about this.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Well, but just remember the guy that reported it wrote
the book on the guy's damn family for crying out loud.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Woj is in there at every point, so sure the Lakers.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
The only thing that was confirmed was, yeah, he's flying
out for an interview. I don't think this was the
Lakers pushing all this stuff. It got completely Hurley's camp.
It rocked Woje. But it's he might be part of
the family. I don't know what his reame is, but
this is where he.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Might actually be a loss loss long lost brother we
don't know about. Yeah, Adrian Wojia Hurley. That's his real name,
and he changed it because you want to dude that
wrote a.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Book about the old Old Man and the miracle of
Saint Anthony is the guy that goes way wait wait,
you like your JJ Reddick story shams. Yesterday I said
it's all no, no, no, Hey, Danny Hurley over here. My
guy has been the guy for months. So until you know,
Jeanie Buss and Rob Polinka sit in front of a
(05:21):
microphone under the bright lights like they're being interrogated by
SIPO wits and admit that it was a month long process.
And here's all the phone calls and receipts. I think
wo'sh got over here.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Oh, we got over And that's why it's so embarrassing
on the Lakers because once this gets out, if it's
not a done deal, what did the Lakers need to do? Hey,
we're searching, We're leaving no stone unturned. Clearly Danny Hurley's
name has come up. He's one of the best coaches
we've seen the last twenty years in college basketball, and
Danny Hurley.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Certainly is something we could be considering for this job.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
That's it. You didn't get the art, that's right, you
didn't get that.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
That's why this is such a big fail by the
Lakers because they failed at every turn because obviously they
didn't know they were getting him. They didn't tamp down
the story, and they treated it like we're the Lakers,
We're gonna come out, we're gonna overwhelm you with money,
and you're gonna and you're gonna come here.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
And they don't get him.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Six years, seventy millionwhelming anybody with money him back. No, well, no,
you're talking about a guy that's not even coaching in
the NBA and you're giving him over ten million dollars
a year.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
But money Money Williams is making thirteen to just show
up for Detroit.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yeah, but still that's a it's a pretty good deal.
It's a pretty good deal Money Williams. That's also done
more in the NBA than well by any early But
there's also a Laker tax at this point because you
have to come in and you got to try to
coach Lebron.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
And Ad You've got to rebuild a roster, right that
to try to navigate the West, like thinking he was
gonna come under what other people were making. No, no, No,
he's got a pretty good thing going. He's the king
of college basketball.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Man.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Well, but our guy that joins us every year is
going back to school. But he's going for three.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
There's only there's only three coaches that would be making
more money than him right now that that would sign
that is saying okay, And that's because obviously Bonnie Williams,
the guy they signed the game a lot of money.
But the three guys and only only are the three
guys making more than him are Steve Kerr, Popovich, and Spolstra. Right,
everyone all guys who have won multiple championships. Right, Kerr's
got four, Popvich has five, Spolstra has two. Right, Yes,
(07:19):
Monni Williams is the outlier here, but if you're de Trey,
we gotta spend money.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
We got to get somebody.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
That's pretty finy good.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
That's a pretty good offer for Danny Hurley to come
in as the as the fourth ish third or fourth
ish most highest paid coach in the NBA, considering he's
got no titles in the three guys above him have
a total of eleven. So it's not like the money
wasn't there. I mean, it's not like and it's not
like they were gonna lose him because of money. It's
not like, oh hey, we watch it. We can't give
you that kind of money. No, I think the money
was there. I think they didn't know they were gonna
(07:47):
get him, and that's why it's so embarrassing for the Lakers.
But here's the other part as to why this was
so embarrassing for the Lakers. I don't know that Danny
Hurley was ever gonna.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Say yes, sure. I mean, think of think about it
for a second.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
If this story comes out and Danny Hurley goes to
the Lakers, he knows what the Lakers is, He knows
what the job is, right, he knows I'm coaching Lebron,
I'm coaching ad I'm gonna go out for a meeting
and I'm gonna say the meeting went really well, and
they have a lot of stuff going on. The money
is not an issue. They didn't try to lowball me.
They brought me in. Hey, this is in line with
what coaches in the NBA. I'm coming in as the
(08:19):
third highest paid coaching Okay, okay, he knew all of this.
And how quickly did he say no? Did he just
say nope? And all by the way, the governor of
Connecticut is saying, we're gonna put money together, We're gonna
rub nickels together to make sure that we make him eye.
I don't know that Danny Hurley was ever going. And
you think about this that he used the Lakers as leverage.
(08:40):
This is like stuff that happened to the Knicks like
ten years ago, or stuff that happened to the Jets
with Kirk Cousins. The Lakers got used as leverage and
they didn't see it. He knew everything about this job.
He knew everything was gonna entail. The money was there?
Say everything was there? And he comes out, Yeah, everything
seems pretty great. Nope, I'm saying no, I'm going back.
He played the Lakers. That's why it's doubly it's not
(09:02):
just one embarrassing. We didn't get the guy, but you
let the guy go leverage on you, and you got
used as leverage as many good moves as Rob Polinka
has made as you because look they still won the
title in twenty twenty. They made some He made a
trade for Anthony Davis that I didn't think he could make.
They brought in some good pieces here, they get Lebron
to come off. This is such an epic fail. It's
(09:23):
like it wipes everything else out. This is such a
fail when not only do you not get your coach,
you let him play you into something that gets in
more money.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
From where he is now. This is this is like embarrassment.
It's like having a.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Cheeseburger and then having like a like a sausage patty
on top of it. I don't have enough. I need more.
It's so doubly embarrassing for the Lakers. Well, I mean,
everybody always wants a little bit more. I mean, and
when you have the cachet, you have the juice that
Danny Hurley has in this moment. I don't doubt that
there was some percentage of him that got on that
(09:57):
plane going.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Well, let's see what this is all about. Right, you've
had your preliminary talks, and you've obviously gone down the
road if we're to believe it that for months he's
the quote unquote front runner in all of this. So
you go out there and you take the meeting, and
you fly across country and you sit in the meeting room.
All right, here's what we discussed. All of these parameters
(10:19):
on the phone. Now it's kind of a little bit
of formalities, some face to face, maybe some extra questions, facilities,
all that fun stuff. Get wind and dine for a day.
He got back on that plane. As soon as I
saw him at the Billy Joel concert with his wife
and Bill Murray's kid, I'm like, oh, that's it. He's
back home. He flew back. He's happy, he's smiling. Either
(10:41):
that or he really got the bag of bags, or
he knows it's coming. But it was just the idea
of you got him out of the room, all right,
as soon as he leaves California, there's got to be
a little head scratching moment of how do we not
seal this, what's still undecided, etc. But for him, I
do believe leverage is the giant part of the you know,
(11:01):
you're hamburger, if we're gonna cut it into slices, right,
it's most of it, but a little bit of what
was true curiosity of all Right, if we get in
the room, maybe that number goes from seventy to something else,
right because we'd heard some whispers of one hundred million
dollar offer. I don't know where that thirty million gap
(11:23):
is in terms of the reports, but let's go with
the six for seventy. At one hundred, maybe it changes
you a little bit. But I gotta imagine if you're
a guy and your families all East Coast and all
of those things that we talk about, you know, royalty
out on the East Coast in the coaching world, You've
got an opportunity for a three P You've got a
lot of component parts of those teams coming back. So
(11:47):
all of that is like, all right, you're really happy,
contented and excited about where you're at and the trajectory there,
and the NBA is not going anywhere, and as good
as the Laker brand may be. And you know, I
saw a bunch of tweets about here's all the banners
and here's all the retired numbers and legends of the past.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
You know what, that's all in the past, there is
that doesn't matter. I mean, listen, your brand keeps coming
back depending on how good it is, right, It's just
like anything else in the world. Like you buy a
brand because you like it. If you don't think the
brand is doing well, you don't buy it. If it
starts doing well, you buy it again. It doesn't matter.
But the Lakers brand, they don't have a brand right now.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
A brand, it's it's nothing.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
They're gonna wind up having to go back and get
another Darvin Ham. They're gonna have to go get somebody
else like that because now they're and completely embarrassed and
they have no idea where to go. They had all
their eggs in Danny Hurley's basket and and not only
not only does he say no, he uses them to
get more money out of you got like that's just
like I don't know that Rob Polenka and Genie Bush
(12:49):
should show their faces for a long time, Like even
when they hire a new head coach whoever.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
It is just having to do the press conference by themselves.
That's it. What about that no that they don't want
to be Are you kidding? Man?
Speaker 5 (12:58):
I'm like the seventeen choice.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I just took the.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Gig because I don't know, I got bored for five minutes. Yeah,
they're not going to be here. Like it's so amazingly
embarrassing for the Lakers, like this is the biggest hit
to their brand, or or maybe to show you just
exactly the biggest example of where their brand is at
that I can remember in the last fifteen years, the losing,
you know, after they won back to back titles, when
(13:22):
they beat Orlando and they beat they beat Boston. The
down years after that were one thing. It's like, wow,
how do the Lakers stay down for so long? But
then they bounce back with Lebron? But now here they are, Dude,
look at the NBA and the Lakers are sitting around.
They're a middling team even with Lebron James. They're a
middling team right now. And you can't even go get
a guy to come and coach the Lakers who you
(13:44):
wanted to give all kinds of money to is just
coming off back to back national championships, and you know
the guy at some point wants to coach in the
NBA and he tells you no, like this is one
of the worst days for the Laker franchise and at
least in a decade.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
This is awful.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Was really looking for my Frank langel a moment today.
The Yukon Huskies that get to do it. We had
a great day.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
There was no great day.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
A day kingdom of the planet of the Age. What
a wonderful day.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
That was Yukon, that was the governor of What a
wonderful day for us.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Oh, it's so exciting.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Uh, Exit out bout a Fresca Exit swollen Dome. The
Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon live
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this incredibly embarrassing day for the Lakers. And hey, good
day for Danny Hurley. Got got a free weekend in
La right at We went to a concert my wife.
We had a good time.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
My wife went shopping or I went shopping. I love shopping.
Whatever it is. Hey, we had a great weekend.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Man, this was awesome And now I'm back back in Youcott,
it was good. Howbout your week out in La? Yeah
it was great.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
What'd you do?
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Then we'll get more money out of Yukon? Yeah, no,
I'm staying man, It's all good. Don't worry about it
like this. What a great weekend for the Hurlies. What
an awful weekend for the Lakers. Although I'm sure they
could still get Bobby here, Like, will people notice if
they get Bobby Hurley instead? Do you really think people
will know? Hey, it looks okay, it looks like the guy? Yeah, sure, okay,
look at Bobby Early.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
How do you have a shaved head?
Speaker 7 (15:09):
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Speaker 3 (15:09):
I don't think it matters other people knowing of Okay,
I think it's fine. I think it works. I think
it works.
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Just underway in Florida, Game two of the Stanley Cup Final.
Edmonton and Florida tied at one a piece. Look, Florida
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So we'll have more and this keep you updated on this.
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Speaker 3 (18:39):
Jay, what's happening? Man?
Speaker 4 (18:41):
What's going on?
Speaker 9 (18:42):
Gentlemen?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Greetings, I judge I always judge how happy I think
you are by how by look at your post and
I see if I see too many about the Orioles
and Burholter, I know you're really Kedah.
Speaker 9 (18:54):
Yeah, well, I'm actively rooting against the Nashty us men
at this point because it's the only way those losers
who run the federation will do anything, Because this is
just a joke to give this guy eight years with
this group and the only you know, World Cup on
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our soil for many of the rest of our lifetimes,
and certainly you know, the peak, which should be the
peak World Cup for this group.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
It's just it's ridiculous. It's it's beyond asinine. It's almost
like a parody, like it's almost like they're trolling you
know what I mean, their most loyal long term fans.
But I hope people don't show up like one hundred
and fifty two hundred dollars for tickets to just sloped
to these friendlies, to this garbage, like they haven't gotten
a penny atom since they hired this Almost cussed that
(19:49):
they hired this coof in the first place. They certainly
ain't getting it until they fire him. And I hope
they crash out badly in the Kopa, badly, badly badly,
like like five to one, three nil the Panama, like
whatever it takes. Just just give somebody with a clue
a chance with this group, someone with a resume.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
All right, well, how about we get to an extension
that makes a little bit more sense.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
So the timing kind of weird. Big news today.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Hey, we thought maybe Mike Tomlin was playing out this
season could be his last in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Last year wasn't very smooth.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
He didn't talk about his future following the season, kind
of was given a bit of an ultimatum about being
a playoff team deep in the playoff team. But today
he signed a three year extension with the team, taking
us through twenty twenty seven. I know nothing happened in
the last couple of days suddenly to make you think
Mike Tomlin's a great coach, not a great coach.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Was this just was this something that was coming?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Was this something that because I feel like the timing
of this is like, wait a minute, right now, smack
dad right for a training camp, he gets a big deal.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Well, I mean a lot of times it would happen, yeah,
I mean even closer to camp. You know, I don't
know what his vacation plans are, you know what I mean,
they're taking an extended family vacation out of the country
for a period of time or whatever. These have tended
not to be very tumultuous negotiations. They're done, you know,
very much sort of old school. And they don't I mean,
(21:15):
you know who, they don't get read coaches like they
haven't had to, you know what I mean. Cower stepped aside.
You know, Noel was there forever and it ran its course,
and you know, he was basically ready to move on,
like I've just covered I don't know, sixty years of
Pittsburgh Stewers football.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
And it, you know, like the people who have been trying.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
To act like this was some sort of thing or
he's quoturing four years job or oh oh, they're getting
a little fed up with top No, like maybe some
people in the media certainly, and yeah, a segment of
the fan base, But no, he's going to be there,
probably as long as he wants to be there, because
they're going to remain a competitive team. They shown that
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over decades, like, and he's been there a long time.
And I know that they don't win the Super Bowl
every year and they don't win a playoff game every year,
and oh boy, that's just going to make some people pout,
But the people who matter in that organization prize and understand,
you know what, the length and breadth of his career,
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he's never had a losing season like in a league
that's meant to drag people down like that. That's crazy,
you know. And he hasn't had a good quarterback for
quite some time, certainly not the last three years of
Ben Roethlisberger, and we know what they've been doing since then.
So no, I'm not surprised. I mean a little bit,
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like if you'd have told me it was going to
happen in like late July, I would have that's kind
of like more than norm but so be it. He's
he's their guy, and that's not gonna change.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
It's a reward that he's got Russell Wilson and Justin
Field and all the questions there on. It's combat day
a little bit for that. Speaking of a guy who
didn't show up for media day, Hassan Reddick, all of
the nice things that Jason wanted to say about his
Jets didn't show up for this mandatory day. How badly
is this going to turn here? Jason?
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Oh, I don't know. Is that? I mean, I think
they've got way bigger fish like with what their quarterback
is going to say on national television every single point
or whatever whenever. You know what I mean, what day
is that that show?
Speaker 9 (23:30):
I can't remember if it's Tuesdays or Thursdays.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
You know, there's just that. I don't know. They've had
some mouth contents there. They'll probably continue to have some
mouth contents. I would have fired the coach. They didn't
fire the coach because somebody else is going to come
in and want to throw out Hacket and want to
put in real guardrails and want to run a real
offense and want to actually have the quarterback report to
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the coordinator and the head coach rather than the coordinator
and the head coach for part to the quarterback. But
but you know, this is what it is. It's going
to be a beautiful disaster. Like I guarantee that, yeah, yeah,
whether yeah, whether he's crippled at quarterback or healthy at quarterback,
you know, whether we have to watch him die slowly
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on the field or somebody shreds one of his achilles
early in the year and gets it over with that way, Like,
however you want to watch this, it's it's going to
be brutal.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
Just trust me.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
How feeling you know, you know, you know, you don't
filling the conference here that we're going to have a
big season.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
We have an incredible roster.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
And if and if Aaron Rodgers is healthy, Okay, I'm
feeling pretty good.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
That's okay. You do you. I'll go play out to
watch you. Do you enjoy your summer?
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Just all good?
Speaker 4 (24:56):
So you have to start playing games?
Speaker 1 (24:58):
And Jay, well, no, that is true. The Jet's best
part of the season is always the summer. His story
it always is we we we win in the off
season trophies or something. Hey, let me take you outside
of football for second, because because the craziness happened. I
want to know if, if, if this is something that
that you worry about, it happens. Uh, Buster only ESPN
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had his Twitter account hacked today and people started posting
whoever hacked his account? Started posting all kinds of crazy
trades and other kinds of nutty things, and then suddenly, boom,
it just disappeared. It was an unbelievable few hours.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Do you worry about that? You know what you know?
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Because look, there's been inside. You've been breaking stuff for
a long time now.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Is that something.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
That concerns you or I don't know that this guy
had any clue who Buster was, though, do you I
just think I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
He said I hate he said I hate Mets, So
I mean I did.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
I don't know he was. I don't think he's from
this country. I don't think he knows anything about certainly
American sports or not a sport like baseball that's pretty
domestic or at least domestic to this side of the globe.
Like I don't know that English was his first language,
Like I just he probably just I don't have no
idea how Buster would have even gotten on his radar.
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But I mean, so part of me is like, I'm
a nobody, why would he mess with me? But then again,
Buster's are somebody, But I don't think he even knows
the Busters or somebody, so I don't really worry. I mean,
what are you gonna do? Like that happens like I
would think when people kind of figure out pretty quickly,
like that's really unusual, like maybe you know, maybe a
demented person has his phone or maybe he's been hacked, like.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
Like I was.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Surprised that ESPN wasn't sending out tweets like on their
account like right away, like you know, please don't look
at anything, or you know, this is not the words
of Buster, Like I kind of was waiting for his employeer,
like let the world know that, hey, this is not
the work of the person we're employing.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Yeah, But like when I got off the air on
the radio at five fifty five, I stopped paying attention
to it. So maybe at some point, you know, the
powers that be at Bristol stepped in. But I'm a
has been dude. Who's gonna who's gonna betch with me?
I mean they do, I hope they're at least funny,
Like I've set the bar pretty well, so they're probably
a better tweeter than me.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah, but dude, you have a lot of there's a
lot of fake Jason lock in four accounts on Twitter.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
I mean there's a there's a lot of them.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Oh yeah, you kidding. Oh sure, there's Jason lock and
four with two f's. There's Jason Locke if that's not
really an l Oh, there's a few of them.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Man, Yeah, more power to them. I don't know, like
why people do that or what kind of perverse thrill
they get from it. I just hope, honestly, if I
do get hacked, I hope it's not the dude who
sell the MacBooks. Have you've seen that, like people like hey,
I only have one hundred MacBooks left at like like, well,
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no one of the things that like literally show like
you know, stolen stuff. Like I hope with somebody like
this who just ask people what's your tweet? Then you
know Louis Swabert's getting traded too, you know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Nobody actually did. At one point he did that old
Hey I have a PS five. I'm trying to sound well,
but I mean.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
The thrillers in trying to get media markets to run
with her boy.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Yeah, yeah, I just hope it's not a dude sewing
like stolen stuff on that. I hope that somebody was
a little bit creative, but they could find somebody way
more important. The heck he's probably couldn't even come a difference.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I think that's the big red flag.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
If people can't tell the difference between what you tweet.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
I probably wouldn't even notice that. I don't look at
it that much, like like that really wasn't me. Did
you see?
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Do you see looking for? What time was that sent?
You know, I thought it was a normal day for him?
Speaker 6 (28:59):
No?
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Were you think I thought it was a normal day.
I don't know, Okay, yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
He is on Twitter at Jason locking for. He is
the real at He is at Jason locking for one
oh five seven the Fan in Baltimore Odyssey all his
latest NFL In the Washington Post, Jay is always buddy appreciated,
my friend.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
We'll talk to you.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
I have a wonderful week.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
There he goes, yeah, anybody, thanks, buddy, thanks.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
He gives me a go Jets and then laughs, go
you know, you know, you know.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
That's how you know that We're You've become really good
friends in the years that we are. We've been talking
to mister locking for because only friends could could go
out and send you that kind of love before hanging
up the phone.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
The Jason, but the Dodgers are screwed because Shoeo Tani
has been banned for life.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
I saw I saw buster on his account today.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
You're so try and I saw it on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
You still got to spend all that money, but Buster
only was spelled with an A.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
I think so I'm not quite all the way there
and that this was his actual account.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
We'll have more on that crazy ass story next hour
on the show. But straight ahead, how about some absolute
positivity and something good about the most controversial story of
the last two days. That's coming up next right here, Jason, Mike,
you are listening to Fox.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
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Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (30:18):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best
friend Mike Harmon Foster Yo Panthers have a two to
one lead over the Oilers right now, nine and a
half to go in the third period. Panthers are going
to take a two games done lead in the Stanley
Cup Final. Look at Paul Maurice, former Whaler's head coach
up there coaching the Stanley Cup Final.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
It's so fun.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
But how about some positivity for a story that's had
nothing but controversy, especially the last couple of days. You
had some positivity Monday. Hear Mike Carmon, You're ready now
let's go again. We need some positivity all right now?
Tonight Ay WNBA resumed play tonight. Caitlin Clark played tonight,
not one of her best games. They get thumped again.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
Look you follow in trouble, a lot of sitting out
to where the crowd was chanting we want Clark.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, it was a bad game against the best team
in the WNBA. They played the Connecticut Sun again. They
get thumped. Eighty nine seventy two. Caitlin Clark just ten
points to assist, no rebounds is minus thirty. That's in
line with what most of the stars were for tonight.
So not a great night for Caitlin Clark. Just the
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first working day after we found out she was not
picked for the Olympic team. And there's been so much
talk about this. This weekend and Caitlyn Clark not taken.
How do you not take Caitlyn Clark. Caitlyn Clark shouldn't
be have taken in the Olympics anyway. But to take
this story in a different direction, something you've talked about
her for the last.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Seventy two hours.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Just to want you to listen for a second to
Caitlin Clark from this weekend talking about not making the
Olympic team and where she is and the decision to
leave her home from the games.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
And I think it's gives you something something to work for.
That's a dream you know, hopefully be there.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Think it's just a little more motivation.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
You remember that, and you know, hopefully in four years
or four years come to knock around.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
You know I can be there.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Okay, now look for a second. Do I think she's
not disappointed. No, of course she's disappointed. You want to
be on the Olympic team. But but listen to you
listen to her talk this weekend. Hey, I use it
as motivation. Hopefully I can be there. This is the
best team of the world, you know. I have to
give her so much credit for how classy she has
been throughout all of this controversy that she has nothing
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to do with over the past few weeks. Nothing and
she you know, while jealous players and analysts want to
do their thing to diminish Caitlin Clark because either, hey,
we feel everybody should have been paying attention to WNBA
before she showed up. Hey, she's a young player. We're
jealous of her success. Why does she have a shoe deal?
There has been no shortage of people, both both who
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play in the WNBA and people who write about it
and cover it and talk about it, to sit here
and say, oh, yeah, Caitlyn Clark, she's not that good,
She's not that great. Wnbay's got a Kitlin Clark problem,
which is just ridiculous. All Caitlyn Clark has done is
show up to play.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Now.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Does she talks smack during a game? Of course she does,
But that's that's that happens during a game. Everybody talks
back during game.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
That's nothing.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
But there's no there's no coming out after a game
and saying I can't believe this is happening, and this
needs to go on, and this needs to go on.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
All that she has been classy when.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
She is getting all kinds of flak from every side,
and mainly it's jealousy and it's other people who are upset.
It's something that has nothing to do with her. And
that's what kind of pisses me off about this whole thing, Mike,
is that everybody says, oh, ba's got a Kitlin Clark problem. No, no, no,
w wnbda has got a problem. It's had nothing to
do with Kitlyn Clark because she's not doing anything. If
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she was coming out, she was angel reacing it, and
she was coming out and talking all the time about
how great she is and all this, and I'm going
down in history and I'm doing this.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
I'm doing then I get it right. I mean, look, hey,
you come.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Out and be outspoken, You're gonna make yourself a target people. Okay,
let's see how good you really are. But she's not
done any of that. She's been quiet, she has taken
everything that's gone her way, and she has been really
classy throughout this entire situation. And that's what upsets me
is that the optic is there's a Caitlin Clark problem.
Now everyone else has a problem. She's the one that's
actually fine with this. She's not doing or saying anything
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to Foster any sort of of ill will. She's not
out canvassing saying how do I not make the Olympic team.
I'd love to play if they want me. She's done
none of that. And yet, and yet, it seems like
at every turn there are people ingrained in the game
of women's basketball that want to come out and say, yeah,
I don't like her, I don't think she deserves it,
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whatever it is. They want to come out and say
how anti Caitlyn Clark they are, when all she is
coming into the WNBA and lifting it up. But no, no, no,
that's not good enough. People still want to hate. And
I got to give her a lot of credit because
it would be enough for me to sit here and say,
if you don't want me, I'll find I'll go play
in a different league. I'll go overseason, play in Europe
from millions and millions and millions of dollars, I'll go
play it.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
No, but I'm coming to the WNBA.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
I want to help. This is where I want to be.
And still she's being treated at arm's length, which is
absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
Well that's you know, she's you say, there's it's not
the Clark problem. It's the other side of it, and
certainly from a commentator standpoint. We've talked about it at nauseum,
the you know folks saying well where were you? It's like, well,
we're here now, and yes, it's all learning curves. Like
when people try to talk Stanley Cup final, it's like
hockey guy might get mad for a minute and then realize,
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wait a minute, you're talking hockey. This is cool. And
I think that's the moment that kind of needs to
happen here for the WNBA women's basketball. We've been talking
about women's sports, you know as a collective, you know,
with the US women's national team for soccer starting to
lead the way, and you see what extrapolates from there.
With Clark, she could teach pr classes the way she's
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gone through. Angel Rees had that moment where it got
clipped off talking about you know, about me, and she
went to that a couple of times, but also been
pretty good to make sure to add, hey, other folks
have been here, and that's true. Again, it's all about
the embracing and the reht rhetoric around it. You know,
the closest Clark's ever come to stepping, you know, putt
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her foot in her mouth was the you know, I
feel like I'm getting hammered, which made for a great
Saturday night bar run and a T shirt line that
you can just talk about, Hey, I'm going to a festival,
which shirt I feel like I'm getting hammered. Okay, you
can do that. But beyond that, you know, it's all
she just keeps getting up, take the hits, keep working.
It's the right attitude, the right way to go, and
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eventually it'll wear off like that and that anger and
that anxiousness that people have will eventually go away. I
won't subside anytime soon because ratings are too high and
there's too many other elements to it to get people
excitable in this echo chamber.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yeah, it's it's just I feel like if you if
you hooked up a lot of to the WNBA players
and let's say, what's your feeling about Caitlin Clark, you
get a lot of them who would say, I love
what she brings, but I wish she wasn't here. We
should have the attention that we're getting without her being here.
I think that's what they that's what they would say.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
Oh sure, well, and unfortunately that's fantasyland. Not just a
Byce and Disney.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
It's just insane.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
But she has been nothing but class throughout this entire ordeal.
More on that, but coming up next, we get back
into the biggest story in basketball?
Speaker 3 (37:31):
What now for a team who got really embarrassed? Today?
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Speaker 3 (37:52):
Danny Hurley is a new Lakers head.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Go ah wait, no, sorry, he isn't Danny Hurley deciding
I don't want your seventy million dollars. I'm gonna stay
at Yukon and chase my third national championship.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
A guy the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Went all in on has decided to stay in stores Connecticut.
So what happens now?
Speaker 3 (38:12):
How bad a failure was this for the Lakers? Joining us?
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Now?
Speaker 1 (38:15):
I'm the hotline, longtime Lakers insider with the La Times,
friend of the show, and a guy who actually had
control of Buster Only's Twitter account earlier today?
Speaker 3 (38:25):
What's happening?
Speaker 6 (38:26):
Bud guys to the moon. We're taking buster coin to
the moon.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Well, dude, I look at today and I don't know
that there's been a day where you can see the
Laker brand is at a lower level because not only
did they not get the guy, they went all in
after he basically played them for more money He's gonna
get at Yukon and I this is just this is
just a disaster that I saw for the that that
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that happened today for the Lakers, and I don't know
where they go from here.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
I think I I agree with a lot of that.
I mean, I think it's not that hard to close
your eyes and remember a very similar situation that happened
in a not too distant Laker path twenty years ago. Actually,
when this team went all in to hire Mike Schufsky
and failed and I believe ended up with threey time
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Janovich and failed and.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
Didn't coach k get paid like five hundred k in
this search or something like you know.
Speaker 6 (39:29):
So, I mean, look, this has happened before. I mean,
this is the risk Lakers are not. Like, this is
the risk that you run when you swim in these
college coaching waters because you can offer more money the
Lakers did. You know, you can offer a better off
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season esque lifestyle, which the Lakers can, right, But here's
what you can't offer.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
You can't offer the.
Speaker 6 (39:56):
Type of autonomy that you get in college. You can't
offer the type of control and you know, the type
of dopamine hit from winning and weirdly enough from losing
that you get in college, which is something that Early's
talked about, right, Like you gave an interview to sixty minutes,
I think earlier they share where you'd said something about how,
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you know, one of his favorite feelings is the feeling
after a loss where it just feels like it's like
death in a locker room and it's just like everybody's
just like you lose this game, and you feel like
if you have three of those in the NBA season,
like you're cooked. But it's the seasons too long. It's
like to get that emotionally high, to get that emotionally low,
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you know, and the Lakers couldn't offer that. And I
think whether it was a bad fit, whatever it was,
you know, he chose the happiness that he knows and
not the uncertainty that was ahead of him. And let's
be really fair.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
This is a lot of.
Speaker 6 (40:58):
Uncertainty, and you know, the Lakers kind of looked like
they've been taking for a ride for four or five
days in a really really strange coaching search. That says
a lot, because somewhere hitting within the Laker logo is
the words it's been a really strange coaching sort of
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what they do. And this has been a this has
been an exceptionally weird one.
Speaker 5 (41:24):
Well, and that's I guess to go back to it.
Right when this first hit the radar in the middle
of last week, had it been circulating it all behind
the scenes, you heard this. I mean we joked about
after he won the title, and it was obvious that
Ham was going to get fired, but it was kind
of a all right, throw throw stuff up against a wall.
So all of a sudden, this report comes out from
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friend of his family Dan, and here we are.
Speaker 6 (41:48):
Yeah, I mean that part of it is strange. I mean,
like I can't like totally like clean exactly what all
of that means. But it was a surprise, you know,
and I'm not I'm not a shame to say it.
I've been talking to probably a circle of twenty or
so people in and around the organization in coaching circles
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people who were early round candidates for this job. And
I never want sort of anybody to say like I'm
nervous about Dan Hurley in this mix, like it never
came up, which is a weird.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
It's just and look, if you're.
Speaker 6 (42:26):
Rob Polinka, like you have reasons to keep the secret right,
like one like you don't want Medishpia finding out right,
Like that's one thing you don't want kind of Dan
Hurley's sort of like flirtation with the NBA. You don't
want competition for that too. For Dan Hurley. You don't
want it out because you're trying to recruit and you're
trying to keep guys out of the portal and different
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things like that. You want Alex Caravan to come back
to school, you know, just in case this doesn't work out.
So you know, you you the Lakers moved in a
real sort of cone the silence on this, you know,
and my immediate reporting was after you know, this got announced.
I mean, there were people and this isn't like interns,
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which in the Lakers, the people high up in the
organization who had no idea that this was going to happen.
No cup. Right, this is very much a rock like
a genie bust thing. And now that it's fallen apart,
it is you know, the pressure I think is doubled.
I mean, look the pressure on these people to get
this decision right. It was always really important. This only
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makes it harder because now it sort of throws the
entire process into what's sort of like for like you're
like an examination, right, Like you want to look at
it and say, like, well, you know, did they talk
themselves into Dan Hurley? Did they talk themselves out of
jj Reddick, did they talk themselves out of James Virego?
Where do they stand? I mean, like they you know,
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like you said, they pushed all in on this hand.
You know, they might not have any chips, but they
still need a coach, so you know, and if you
can't get it right, like, how does this ripple to
your roster? I mean you know, look, I think at
the end of the day, I still have not been
presented with a compelling alternate destination for Lebron James other
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than the Lakers that can combine money, competitiveness, and happiness.
But like you know this knowing Lebron like he doesn't
want the last two years of his career, if that's
how hover long he's gonna play, like to be like
a total disaster, Like that's not the hope, you know
what I mean? And I think I think you wonder
(44:36):
like if this does this, how does this sit with him?
You know? I mean he's out there tweeting today about
you know, responding to people about people who think he's
not about winning, Like that's not an accident, I don't
think today. I think that is a well timed response
to a tweet.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
So so what does happen from here? I mean, is
is JJ Redick Lebron's guy? As he's secretly happy that that?
Dan Hurley didn't say yet. Yes, I mean I don't
know where that's the thing is, Dan, I don't know
where the Lakers go from here, Like what's what's the
next thing? If they were all in on Dan Hurley
And you know you told us last week that hey,
all the JJ Reddick talks seem to come from outside
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the circles that we're making decision with the Lakers, Like
like what is it now? Like, like how do you
go and say, oh, this is our guy?
Speaker 6 (45:19):
Yeah, Well that's going to be a hard part right,
You're gonna have to lie to yourself in a real way,
a real stands ask like it's only a lie if
you don't believe it to be true, the type of thing.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Or Homer Simpson, it takes two to lie, one to
lie and one to listen.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
So there's that to go on.
Speaker 6 (45:38):
I think you know the the way that I would
do this, and I have to be like totally clear,
like I don't know the answer to this right now.
It is mind boggling. Like I think the way you
do this right is if you're the Lakers, you have
not had like the formal Gayoretick interview yet, that doesn't
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mean you haven't spoke them, and that doesn't mean you
haven't spoken to them extensively because they have, but like
they haven't done like the full on like meet everybody
in the building, like give JJ Redick a chance to
win this job. Now, what's an interesting factor in this
and these are the things we don't know, is like,
was there an event that occurred prior that you know
(46:21):
precipitated the pivot seemingly a pivot to Dan early now
or did the Lakers truly believe that it was Dan
early from day one? You know, like that is a
big question mark. No one knows. And if there was
an event that forced the pivot, you know, let's say
the Lakers decided in the end that they didn't want
to hire somebody who had no coaching experience. Can they
(46:43):
go back on that now?
Speaker 4 (46:45):
You know?
Speaker 6 (46:46):
Is that a possibility?
Speaker 4 (46:48):
Do you.
Speaker 6 (46:50):
Reset the process and give some of the other assistants
that you talked to along the way to Sam Casseels
and David Edelmans, the Micanoris of the world, you know,
names by the way that like three weeks ago, four
weeks ago seemed really exciting. Now that Denver and Minnesota
out of the play, let's seem a little less exciting.
You know, do you do you do you circle back
(47:13):
on those guys and give them a bigger opportunity or
do you kind of look at Reddick and James Wrego,
the two guys that you would kind of move the
furthest with. And I think Sam dis is inappropriate that
but but really, do you look at those two guys
and we'll say Sam is a third and say like, okay,
we need to pick one of these guys.
Speaker 4 (47:33):
And now at this.
Speaker 6 (47:34):
Point it's like, let's do the least you do the
least amount of harm, right, which is like the worst
possible methods, right, like that, that's not what you want
to say before you hand the keys. I mean franchised
to somebody. And I think that's not to say that
these people aren't capable. I think they are, but I
do think that you know, if you're going to go it,
if you're gonna They clearly thought Curly was worth the
(47:56):
bigger swing, and now that they wif you know, it's
you know, no one likes to feel like a second choice.
And look, the good news is though, in the NBA,
there are ways around this, right like extra year here
at option there a couple extorts, got I mean a
(48:17):
couple a couple of million dollars can can solve some
hurt feelings pretty quickly in this league. And I think
that's probably how this story ends. But it hasn't ended
yet and the draft is in three weeks.
Speaker 5 (48:33):
Yeah, good times, Yeah that's about right. Yeah, I mean,
look always Steam Park tickets and then some gift cards
to some bougie restaurants. He's dan Waki La Times with
us here Jason Smith Show with me Mike Harmon from
the Diirach dot Com, Fox Sports Radio Studios find Dan
always worked the La Times of course and at dan
Waki Sports. I kind of like the original thought of
(48:54):
all this though, Dan, where it was going to be
jj Reddick and the stars looking over his shoulder, uh,
and that we were wondering when the coup was gonna
kind of fall. I mean, look, as a media person,
that's the key. I don't want to see my my
Laker friends, you know, kind of lose their minds game
to game. But that was the best theater for me.
Speaker 6 (49:14):
Well, look, I think so you know, I covered Jaja
with the Clippers, and I don't pretend to know him
in you know a real sort of like like I wouldn't.
I would be a bad I couldn't testify.
Speaker 5 (49:31):
Well you could see you how they portrayed him on clipped.
Speaker 6 (49:33):
But like I've got to know him. I've got to
know him pretty well through time. And like I will say,
like I do think like one, if he thought he
was in danger of being walked over, he wouldn't dig
the dup, like like that's like that is not what
he is about. Like he isn't a you know, and
(49:54):
I think like he probably has a little like Dan Hurley.
And I'm in the sense that it's like he is
a very passionate person and he will like clap back
at you if he doesn't like what he sees and
he doesn't like what he is right, you know, it
can like go google a Duke NC State game disrespect,
(50:15):
you know what I mean, Like and and I think
like there's an element of that, Like, so I really
truly believe that given the opportunity in this job, like
I think there's a chance he could be really good
at it. He's a smart person, he's analytic, but he
also obviously has the experience as a player. He's been
away from the game long enough that he's probably been
(50:36):
able to like kind of like wipe the NBA player
crust out of his eyes and see it a little
more or less blurry and be able to see more
than one side of it. And you know, he's.
Speaker 10 (50:48):
An incredibly hard worker, Like he's an inpredibly hard working maniacal,
Like I'd still like, I mean that's a that though,
you know, Like I mean, but if he doesn't like it,
what if you know, he thought it would be one.
Speaker 6 (51:04):
Thing and it's something different. What if these are all
the real questions that you have to ask about any
Anybody does anything for the first time and you think
they're gonna be good at it. And I've said it once,
I said a hundred times. This is the weirdness that
comes with Lebron James at this stage of his career.
Is that like JJ Redick might be a very good
(51:26):
four or five year bet, Dan Hurley might have been
a very good, poor or five year bet. By the way,
and you're still making five year bets with two really
important years, we'll say at the front of it. With
Lebron James, and there's not a lot of time for
learning curves, There's not a lot of time for development.
(51:48):
You know, his patience extends a little bit, but it
only goes so far to get the best version of him.
And it's a hard situation.
Speaker 4 (51:58):
Guys.
Speaker 6 (51:58):
I will say this about the Dan Hurley thinger quickly too,
and this I swear, I'm not holding water for anybody
on this, but it is Laker fans got worked up
into a real cusy on this. There is there is
almost no track record of people being good and what
Dan Hurley was about to try to do, I should say, great,
I'm sorry you know you have Brad Stevens. Sure, I
(52:20):
mean you have Billy Donovan. Like the numbers would tell
you that what Billy Donovan is accomplished with the thunder
and the bulls. If you get that out of the
college coach that you hire with no NBA experience like
you have, I mean, like the like the alternative is
John Bulin, Rick Beatino, John Copart, you know what I mean.
(52:41):
Like there are like there are there's a mountain of
guys who've tried this and stunk at it.
Speaker 4 (52:47):
You know.
Speaker 6 (52:47):
So I'm not saying blessing in disguise. I'm saying that
this job is a really hard job no matter who
takes it, and there there are really healthy arguments to
be made and straj Redick a lot of which, by
the way, you could also sort of make against Dan Hurley.
It's just, you know, I mean, the track record of
guys who've had no coaching experience, who come from like
(53:09):
the booth and something like that for the front office
to coach is also not very good. It's there's a
the this is the this is the state of the search.
It's a lot of projection, and I think people talk
themselves into Dan Hurley because of the championships and you know,
at least there's that and some big name and it's
a swing and it's inspired. But uh, you know, this
(53:31):
doesn't mean the Lakers are gonna come up next time
here at the play here in the coaching search and
be able to you know, a and Andrew Vaughn slap
single like you know and Andrew and Andrew being tendee,
Uh drive it to the mid right field. Like no,
(53:52):
they're going to happen. I mean, they're going to be
taking another big swing and there's no safe option here.
I guess James regular option, but I guess I mean
Cleveland likes him too, like you know, like you're on
the clock and so yeah, it's it's a mess.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
He's on Twitter at dan wiki Sports that has had dants.
Speaker 5 (54:11):
Wait he sees how the White Sox launched tonight.
Speaker 1 (54:14):
There is your state of the Lakers right there from
Lakers engineer.
Speaker 6 (54:18):
Guys off the West coast. Please please for the afternoon.
Speaker 3 (54:22):
Indeed, do appreciated, my friend. We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 5 (54:25):
See you, buddy.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
Okay, there he goes, great great stuff from Dan Waky
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It doesn't traded the Mets, you know, Lindor to the A's.
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But Buster Only, we we'll get into Buster early. But
his account on Twitter has been restored, and it looks
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Speaker 5 (01:47):
Poof.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
It's like in uh when when he when Kevin Spacey
does the poof at the end of Usual Suspects, heier
SoSE poof, he disappeared.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
The guy just disappears from the internet. He's gone. But
today he.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Was a day because oh my goodness, the Lakers are
completely embarrassed and have been completely embarrassed by Danny Hurley.
Danny Hurley rejected the Lakers offer of six years and
seventy million dollars to come coach Lakers and instead will
return to Yukon to chase a third straight national title.
(02:23):
In a statement today, he said, I'm humbled by the experience.
At the end of the day, I want to go
back to Yukon. We're getting better this summer as we
continue to pursue championships. And just as important is that
Governor ned Lamont. The governor said, don't worry, we are
going to make sure Danny Hurley is the top paid
coach in college basketball.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Calhoun is pissed.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Oh boy, what was it take tonight? What was it
take tonight?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
The first things first for the Lakers before we get
to Danny Hurley. This is so unbelievably embarrassing. I mean,
this shows you that the Lakers are just They're just
another They're just another franchise. Now, there's no you don't
say no to the Lakers. There's no They went after
their guy and they played it, Hey, we're gonna come
(03:08):
over the top and offer that that you can't say
no to because we're the Lakers. And the guy chose
to stay at college basketball. The guy chose to stay
in stores, Connecticut rather than come coach the Lakers, which
supposedly is such a great gig. This tells you where
the Lakers are at right now, and and and what
people think.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Of the job. It's awful. This is so embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
How do you go so publicly after one guy and
get told no, not that you lost a bidding war,
just I'd rather stay in college, man, than come to
the NBA and don't give me this. Oh, well, you
know the NBA. The jobs aren't what they used to
be there. No, this is the Lakers, right, This was
the Lakers and you were told no, we're not doing it.
(03:51):
This is embarrassing on so many levels. Like, you don't
run this this whole gamut with Danny Hurley unless you
know you're getting him, Like, you don't go public, you don't,
you don't have Hey, we're going to prepare a.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Huge offer of him.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
You don't let this go the way it is unless
you know you're getting out. Remember, but certain certain places
you can say no to it. Hey, we were talked
to a couple of different guys. Beer's supposed to be
the Lakers man, and you know somebody could say, yeah, no,
I'm not gonna take it.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Like, how do you not know?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Like that?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
That's what's so embarrassing about this.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Well, but just remember the guy that reported it wrote
the book on the guy's damn family for crying out loud.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Woj is in there at every point, so sure the Lakers.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
The only thing that was confirmed was, yeah, he's flying
out for an interview. I don't think this was the
Lakers pushing all this stuff. It got completely Hurley's camp.
It rocked Woje. But it's he might be part of
the family. I don't know what his reame is, but
this is where he.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Might actually be a loss loss long lost brother we
don't know about. Yeah, Adrian Wojia Hurley. That's his real name,
and he changed it because you want to dude that
wrote a.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Book about the old Old Man and the miracle of
Saint Anthony is the guy that goes way wait wait,
you like your JJ Reddick story shams. Yesterday I said
it's all no, no, no, Hey, Danny Hurley over here. My
guy has been the guy for months. So until you know,
Jeanie Buss and Rob Polinka sit in front of a
(05:21):
microphone under the bright lights like they're being interrogated by
SIPO wits and admit that it was a month long process.
And here's all the phone calls and receipts. I think
wo'sh got over here.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Oh, we got over And that's why it's so embarrassing
on the Lakers because once this gets out, if it's
not a done deal, what did the Lakers need to do? Hey,
we're searching, We're leaving no stone unturned. Clearly Danny Hurley's
name has come up. He's one of the best coaches
we've seen the last twenty years in college basketball, and
Danny Hurley.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Certainly is something we could be considering for this job.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
That's it. You didn't get the art, that's right, you
didn't get that.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
That's why this is such a big fail by the
Lakers because they failed at every turn because obviously they
didn't know they were getting him. They didn't tamp down
the story, and they treated it like we're the Lakers,
We're gonna come out, we're gonna overwhelm you with money,
and you're gonna and you're gonna come here.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
And they don't get him.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Six years, seventy millionwhelming anybody with money him back. No, well, no,
you're talking about a guy that's not even coaching in
the NBA and you're giving him over ten million dollars
a year.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
But money Money Williams is making thirteen to just show
up for Detroit.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yeah, but still that's a it's a pretty good deal.
It's a pretty good deal Money Williams. That's also done
more in the NBA than well by any early But
there's also a Laker tax at this point because you
have to come in and you got to try to
coach Lebron.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
And Ad You've got to rebuild a roster, right that
to try to navigate the West, like thinking he was
gonna come under what other people were making. No, no, No,
he's got a pretty good thing going. He's the king
of college basketball.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Man.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Well, but our guy that joins us every year is
going back to school. But he's going for three.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
There's only there's only three coaches that would be making
more money than him right now that that would sign
that is saying okay, And that's because obviously Bonnie Williams,
the guy they signed the game a lot of money.
But the three guys and only only are the three
guys making more than him are Steve Kerr, Popovich, and Spolstra. Right,
everyone all guys who have won multiple championships. Right, Kerr's
got four, Popvich has five, Spolstra has two. Right, Yes,
(07:19):
Monni Williams is the outlier here, but if you're de Trey,
we gotta spend money.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
We got to get somebody.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
That's pretty finy good.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
That's a pretty good offer for Danny Hurley to come
in as the as the fourth ish third or fourth
ish most highest paid coach in the NBA, considering he's
got no titles in the three guys above him have
a total of eleven. So it's not like the money
wasn't there. I mean, it's not like and it's not
like they were gonna lose him because of money. It's
not like, oh hey, we watch it. We can't give
you that kind of money. No, I think the money
was there. I think they didn't know they were gonna
(07:47):
get him, and that's why it's so embarrassing for the Lakers.
But here's the other part as to why this was
so embarrassing for the Lakers. I don't know that Danny
Hurley was ever gonna.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Say yes, sure. I mean, think of think about it
for a second.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
If this story comes out and Danny Hurley goes to
the Lakers, he knows what the Lakers is, He knows
what the job is, right, he knows I'm coaching Lebron,
I'm coaching ad I'm gonna go out for a meeting
and I'm gonna say the meeting went really well, and
they have a lot of stuff going on. The money
is not an issue. They didn't try to lowball me.
They brought me in. Hey, this is in line with
what coaches in the NBA. I'm coming in as the
(08:19):
third highest paid coaching Okay, okay, he knew all of this.
And how quickly did he say no? Did he just
say nope? And all by the way, the governor of
Connecticut is saying, we're gonna put money together, We're gonna
rub nickels together to make sure that we make him eye.
I don't know that Danny Hurley was ever going. And
you think about this that he used the Lakers as leverage.
(08:40):
This is like stuff that happened to the Knicks like
ten years ago, or stuff that happened to the Jets
with Kirk Cousins. The Lakers got used as leverage and
they didn't see it. He knew everything about this job.
He knew everything was gonna entail. The money was there?
Say everything was there? And he comes out, Yeah, everything
seems pretty great. Nope, I'm saying no, I'm going back.
He played the Lakers. That's why it's doubly it's not
(09:02):
just one embarrassing. We didn't get the guy, but you
let the guy go leverage on you, and you got
used as leverage as many good moves as Rob Polinka
has made as you because look they still won the
title in twenty twenty. They made some He made a
trade for Anthony Davis that I didn't think he could make.
They brought in some good pieces here, they get Lebron
to come off. This is such an epic fail. It's
(09:23):
like it wipes everything else out. This is such a
fail when not only do you not get your coach,
you let him play you into something that gets in
more money.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
From where he is now. This is this is like embarrassment.
It's like having a.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Cheeseburger and then having like a like a sausage patty
on top of it. I don't have enough. I need more.
It's so doubly embarrassing for the Lakers. Well, I mean,
everybody always wants a little bit more. I mean, and
when you have the cachet, you have the juice that
Danny Hurley has in this moment. I don't doubt that
there was some percentage of him that got on that
(09:57):
plane going.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Well, let's see what this is all about. Right, you've
had your preliminary talks, and you've obviously gone down the
road if we're to believe it that for months he's
the quote unquote front runner in all of this. So
you go out there and you take the meeting, and
you fly across country and you sit in the meeting room.
All right, here's what we discussed. All of these parameters
(10:19):
on the phone. Now it's kind of a little bit
of formalities, some face to face, maybe some extra questions, facilities,
all that fun stuff. Get wind and dine for a day.
He got back on that plane. As soon as I
saw him at the Billy Joel concert with his wife
and Bill Murray's kid, I'm like, oh, that's it. He's
back home. He flew back. He's happy, he's smiling. Either
(10:41):
that or he really got the bag of bags, or
he knows it's coming. But it was just the idea
of you got him out of the room, all right,
as soon as he leaves California, there's got to be
a little head scratching moment of how do we not
seal this, what's still undecided, etc. But for him, I
do believe leverage is the giant part of the you know,
(11:01):
you're hamburger, if we're gonna cut it into slices, right,
it's most of it, but a little bit of what
was true curiosity of all Right, if we get in
the room, maybe that number goes from seventy to something else,
right because we'd heard some whispers of one hundred million
dollar offer. I don't know where that thirty million gap
(11:23):
is in terms of the reports, but let's go with
the six for seventy. At one hundred, maybe it changes
you a little bit. But I gotta imagine if you're
a guy and your families all East Coast and all
of those things that we talk about, you know, royalty
out on the East Coast in the coaching world, You've
got an opportunity for a three P You've got a
lot of component parts of those teams coming back. So
(11:47):
all of that is like, all right, you're really happy,
contented and excited about where you're at and the trajectory there,
and the NBA is not going anywhere, and as good
as the Laker brand may be. And you know, I
saw a bunch of tweets about here's all the banners
and here's all the retired numbers and legends of the past.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
You know what, that's all in the past, there is
that doesn't matter. I mean, listen, your brand keeps coming
back depending on how good it is, right, It's just
like anything else in the world. Like you buy a
brand because you like it. If you don't think the
brand is doing well, you don't buy it. If it
starts doing well, you buy it again. It doesn't matter.
But the Lakers brand, they don't have a brand right now.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
A brand, it's it's nothing.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
They're gonna wind up having to go back and get
another Darvin Ham. They're gonna have to go get somebody
else like that because now they're and completely embarrassed and
they have no idea where to go. They had all
their eggs in Danny Hurley's basket and and not only
not only does he say no, he uses them to
get more money out of you got like that's just
like I don't know that Rob Polenka and Genie Bush
(12:49):
should show their faces for a long time, Like even
when they hire a new head coach whoever.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
It is just having to do the press conference by themselves.
That's it. What about that no that they don't want
to be Are you kidding? Man?
Speaker 5 (12:58):
I'm like the seventeen choice.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I just took the.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Gig because I don't know, I got bored for five minutes. Yeah,
they're not going to be here. Like it's so amazingly
embarrassing for the Lakers, like this is the biggest hit
to their brand, or or maybe to show you just
exactly the biggest example of where their brand is at
that I can remember in the last fifteen years, the losing,
you know, after they won back to back titles, when
(13:22):
they beat Orlando and they beat they beat Boston. The
down years after that were one thing. It's like, wow,
how do the Lakers stay down for so long? But
then they bounce back with Lebron? But now here they are, Dude,
look at the NBA and the Lakers are sitting around.
They're a middling team even with Lebron James. They're a
middling team right now. And you can't even go get
a guy to come and coach the Lakers who you
(13:44):
wanted to give all kinds of money to is just
coming off back to back national championships, and you know
the guy at some point wants to coach in the
NBA and he tells you no, like this is one
of the worst days for the Laker franchise and at
least in a decade.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
This is awful.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Was really looking for my Frank langel a moment today.
The Yukon Huskies that get to do it. We had
a great day.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
There was no great day.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
A day kingdom of the planet of the Age. What
a wonderful day.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
That was Yukon, that was the governor of What a
wonderful day for us.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Oh, it's so exciting.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Uh, Exit out bout a Fresca Exit swollen Dome. The
Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon live
from the Tirec dot Com Studios. We'll have more on
this incredibly embarrassing day for the Lakers. And hey, good
day for Danny Hurley. Got got a free weekend in
La right at We went to a concert my wife.
We had a good time.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
My wife went shopping or I went shopping. I love shopping.
Whatever it is. Hey, we had a great weekend.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Man, this was awesome And now I'm back back in Youcott,
it was good. Howbout your week out in La? Yeah
it was great.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
What'd you do?
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Then we'll get more money out of Yukon? Yeah, no,
I'm staying man, It's all good. Don't worry about it
like this. What a great weekend for the Hurlies. What
an awful weekend for the Lakers. Although I'm sure they
could still get Bobby here, Like, will people notice if
they get Bobby Hurley instead? Do you really think people
will know? Hey, it looks okay, it looks like the guy? Yeah, sure, okay,
look at Bobby Early.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
How do you have a shaved head?
Speaker 7 (15:09):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (15:09):
I don't think it matters other people knowing of Okay,
I think it's fine. I think it works. I think
it works.
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And also, hey, some big stuff out of the NFL.
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Speaker 1 (17:09):
You know, I have to prepare that this is gonna
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because I hear when you play a tight shirt usually
used to move it around in the show. Now I realize, Hey,
we hit the show, we're out of the gate. We're
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So thanks toob If you're gonna play that song, you
still you play it when you feel in on Colin Show,
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Speaker 2 (17:38):
Come on, man, I love this song.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Hey man, it puts him in a good mood and
he's vibing out. I mean, I can't I can't blame
the man.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Colin saying, who's that Adam Talbert? Why does he always
play this song? I don't understand.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Why did you play it? You play this? What's going on?
Speaker 1 (17:51):
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Just underway in Florida, Game two of the Stanley Cup Final.
Edmonton and Florida tied at one a piece. Look, Florida
puts together a big two nothing lead right here, because
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you know Edmonton, they felt they've had a lot of
problems trying to solve Bebrovski and now one one this
could be a crushing l for the Oilers.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
So we'll have more and this keep you updated on this.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
But right now, big news in the NFL today to
get to, and nobody better to talk to than a
guy who is celebrating an Oriole sweep right now. One
O five seven The Fan in Baltimore, Odyssey, Washington Post,
longtime NFL insider, front of the show, Jason locking for it.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Jay, what's happening? Man?
Speaker 4 (18:41):
What's going on?
Speaker 9 (18:42):
Gentlemen?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Greetings, I judge I always judge how happy I think
you are by how by look at your post and
I see if I see too many about the Orioles
and Burholter, I know you're really Kedah.
Speaker 9 (18:54):
Yeah, well, I'm actively rooting against the Nashty us men
at this point because it's the only way those losers
who run the federation will do anything, Because this is
just a joke to give this guy eight years with
this group and the only you know, World Cup on
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our soil for many of the rest of our lifetimes,
and certainly you know, the peak, which should be the
peak World Cup for this group.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
It's just it's ridiculous. It's it's beyond asinine. It's almost
like a parody, like it's almost like they're trolling you
know what I mean, their most loyal long term fans.
But I hope people don't show up like one hundred
and fifty two hundred dollars for tickets to just sloped
to these friendlies, to this garbage, like they haven't gotten
a penny atom since they hired this Almost cussed that
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they hired this coof in the first place. They certainly
ain't getting it until they fire him. And I hope
they crash out badly in the Kopa, badly, badly badly,
like like five to one, three nil the Panama, like
whatever it takes. Just just give somebody with a clue
a chance with this group, someone with a resume.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
All right, well, how about we get to an extension
that makes a little bit more sense.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
So the timing kind of weird. Big news today.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Hey, we thought maybe Mike Tomlin was playing out this
season could be his last in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Last year wasn't very smooth.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
He didn't talk about his future following the season, kind
of was given a bit of an ultimatum about being
a playoff team deep in the playoff team. But today
he signed a three year extension with the team, taking
us through twenty twenty seven. I know nothing happened in
the last couple of days suddenly to make you think
Mike Tomlin's a great coach, not a great coach.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Was this just was this something that was coming?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Was this something that because I feel like the timing
of this is like, wait a minute, right now, smack
dad right for a training camp, he gets a big deal.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Well, I mean a lot of times it would happen, yeah,
I mean even closer to camp. You know, I don't
know what his vacation plans are, you know what I mean,
they're taking an extended family vacation out of the country
for a period of time or whatever. These have tended
not to be very tumultuous negotiations. They're done, you know,
very much sort of old school. And they don't I mean,
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you know who, they don't get read coaches like they
haven't had to, you know what I mean. Cower stepped aside.
You know, Noel was there forever and it ran its course,
and you know, he was basically ready to move on,
like I've just covered I don't know, sixty years of
Pittsburgh Stewers football.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
And it, you know, like the people who have been trying.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
To act like this was some sort of thing or
he's quoturing four years job or oh oh, they're getting
a little fed up with top No, like maybe some
people in the media certainly, and yeah, a segment of
the fan base, But no, he's going to be there,
probably as long as he wants to be there, because
they're going to remain a competitive team. They shown that
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over decades, like, and he's been there a long time.
And I know that they don't win the Super Bowl
every year and they don't win a playoff game every year,
and oh boy, that's just going to make some people pout,
But the people who matter in that organization prize and understand,
you know what, the length and breadth of his career,
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he's never had a losing season like in a league
that's meant to drag people down like that. That's crazy,
you know. And he hasn't had a good quarterback for
quite some time, certainly not the last three years of
Ben Roethlisberger, and we know what they've been doing since then.
So no, I'm not surprised. I mean a little bit,
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like if you'd have told me it was going to
happen in like late July, I would have that's kind
of like more than norm but so be it. He's
he's their guy, and that's not gonna change.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
It's a reward that he's got Russell Wilson and Justin
Field and all the questions there on. It's combat day
a little bit for that. Speaking of a guy who
didn't show up for media day, Hassan Reddick, all of
the nice things that Jason wanted to say about his
Jets didn't show up for this mandatory day. How badly
is this going to turn here? Jason?
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Oh, I don't know. Is that? I mean, I think
they've got way bigger fish like with what their quarterback
is going to say on national television every single point
or whatever whenever. You know what I mean, what day
is that that show?
Speaker 9 (23:30):
I can't remember if it's Tuesdays or Thursdays.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
You know, there's just that. I don't know. They've had
some mouth contents there. They'll probably continue to have some
mouth contents. I would have fired the coach. They didn't
fire the coach because somebody else is going to come
in and want to throw out Hacket and want to
put in real guardrails and want to run a real
offense and want to actually have the quarterback report to
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the coordinator and the head coach rather than the coordinator
and the head coach for part to the quarterback. But
but you know, this is what it is. It's going
to be a beautiful disaster. Like I guarantee that, yeah, yeah,
whether yeah, whether he's crippled at quarterback or healthy at quarterback,
you know, whether we have to watch him die slowly
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on the field or somebody shreds one of his achilles
early in the year and gets it over with that way, Like,
however you want to watch this, it's it's going to
be brutal.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
Just trust me.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
How feeling you know, you know, you know, you don't
filling the conference here that we're going to have a
big season.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
We have an incredible roster.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
And if and if Aaron Rodgers is healthy, Okay, I'm
feeling pretty good.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
That's okay. You do you. I'll go play out to
watch you. Do you enjoy your summer?
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Just all good?
Speaker 4 (24:56):
So you have to start playing games?
Speaker 1 (24:58):
And Jay, well, no, that is true. The Jet's best
part of the season is always the summer. His story
it always is we we we win in the off
season trophies or something. Hey, let me take you outside
of football for second, because because the craziness happened. I
want to know if, if, if this is something that
that you worry about, it happens. Uh, Buster only ESPN
(25:20):
had his Twitter account hacked today and people started posting
whoever hacked his account? Started posting all kinds of crazy
trades and other kinds of nutty things, and then suddenly, boom,
it just disappeared. It was an unbelievable few hours.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Do you worry about that? You know what you know?
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Because look, there's been inside. You've been breaking stuff for
a long time now.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Is that something.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
That concerns you or I don't know that this guy
had any clue who Buster was, though, do you I
just think I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
He said I hate he said I hate Mets, So
I mean I did.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
I don't know he was. I don't think he's from
this country. I don't think he knows anything about certainly
American sports or not a sport like baseball that's pretty
domestic or at least domestic to this side of the globe.
Like I don't know that English was his first language,
Like I just he probably just I don't have no
idea how Buster would have even gotten on his radar.
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But I mean, so part of me is like, I'm
a nobody, why would he mess with me? But then again,
Buster's are somebody, But I don't think he even knows
the Busters or somebody, so I don't really worry. I mean,
what are you gonna do? Like that happens like I
would think when people kind of figure out pretty quickly,
like that's really unusual, like maybe you know, maybe a
demented person has his phone or maybe he's been hacked, like.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
Like I was.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Surprised that ESPN wasn't sending out tweets like on their
account like right away, like you know, please don't look
at anything, or you know, this is not the words
of Buster, Like I kind of was waiting for his employeer,
like let the world know that, hey, this is not
the work of the person we're employing.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Yeah, But like when I got off the air on
the radio at five fifty five, I stopped paying attention
to it. So maybe at some point, you know, the
powers that be at Bristol stepped in. But I'm a
has been dude. Who's gonna who's gonna betch with me?
I mean they do, I hope they're at least funny,
Like I've set the bar pretty well, so they're probably
a better tweeter than me.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah, but dude, you have a lot of there's a
lot of fake Jason lock in four accounts on Twitter.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
I mean there's a there's a lot of them.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Oh yeah, you kidding. Oh sure, there's Jason lock and
four with two f's. There's Jason Locke if that's not
really an l Oh, there's a few of them.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Man, Yeah, more power to them. I don't know, like
why people do that or what kind of perverse thrill
they get from it. I just hope, honestly, if I
do get hacked, I hope it's not the dude who
sell the MacBooks. Have you've seen that, like people like hey,
I only have one hundred MacBooks left at like like, well,
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no one of the things that like literally show like
you know, stolen stuff. Like I hope with somebody like
this who just ask people what's your tweet? Then you
know Louis Swabert's getting traded too, you know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Nobody actually did. At one point he did that old
Hey I have a PS five. I'm trying to sound well,
but I mean.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
The thrillers in trying to get media markets to run
with her boy.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Yeah, yeah, I just hope it's not a dude sewing
like stolen stuff on that. I hope that somebody was
a little bit creative, but they could find somebody way
more important. The heck he's probably couldn't even come a difference.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I think that's the big red flag.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
If people can't tell the difference between what you tweet.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
I probably wouldn't even notice that. I don't look at
it that much, like like that really wasn't me. Did
you see?
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Do you see looking for? What time was that sent?
You know, I thought it was a normal day for him?
Speaker 6 (28:59):
No?
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Were you think I thought it was a normal day.
I don't know, Okay, yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
He is on Twitter at Jason locking for. He is
the real at He is at Jason locking for one
oh five seven the Fan in Baltimore Odyssey all his
latest NFL In the Washington Post, Jay is always buddy appreciated,
my friend.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
We'll talk to you.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
I have a wonderful week.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
There he goes, yeah, anybody, thanks, buddy, thanks.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
He gives me a go Jets and then laughs, go
you know, you know, you know.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
That's how you know that We're You've become really good
friends in the years that we are. We've been talking
to mister locking for because only friends could could go
out and send you that kind of love before hanging
up the phone.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
The Jason, but the Dodgers are screwed because Shoeo Tani
has been banned for life.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
I saw I saw buster on his account today.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
You're so try and I saw it on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
You still got to spend all that money, but Buster
only was spelled with an A.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
I think so I'm not quite all the way there
and that this was his actual account.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
We'll have more on that crazy ass story next hour
on the show. But straight ahead, how about some absolute
positivity and something good about the most controversial story of
the last two days. That's coming up next right here, Jason, Mike,
you are listening to Fox.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best
friend Mike Harmon Foster Yo Panthers have a two to
one lead over the Oilers right now, nine and a
half to go in the third period. Panthers are going
to take a two games done lead in the Stanley
Cup Final. Look at Paul Maurice, former Whaler's head coach
up there coaching the Stanley Cup Final.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
It's so fun.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
But how about some positivity for a story that's had
nothing but controversy, especially the last couple of days. You
had some positivity Monday. Hear Mike Carmon, You're ready now
let's go again. We need some positivity all right now?
Tonight Ay WNBA resumed play tonight. Caitlin Clark played tonight,
not one of her best games. They get thumped again.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
Look you follow in trouble, a lot of sitting out
to where the crowd was chanting we want Clark.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, it was a bad game against the best team
in the WNBA. They played the Connecticut Sun again. They
get thumped. Eighty nine seventy two. Caitlin Clark just ten
points to assist, no rebounds is minus thirty. That's in
line with what most of the stars were for tonight.
So not a great night for Caitlin Clark. Just the
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first working day after we found out she was not
picked for the Olympic team. And there's been so much
talk about this. This weekend and Caitlyn Clark not taken.
How do you not take Caitlyn Clark. Caitlyn Clark shouldn't
be have taken in the Olympics anyway. But to take
this story in a different direction, something you've talked about
her for the last.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Seventy two hours.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Just to want you to listen for a second to
Caitlin Clark from this weekend talking about not making the
Olympic team and where she is and the decision to
leave her home from the games.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
And I think it's gives you something something to work for.
That's a dream you know, hopefully be there.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Think it's just a little more motivation.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
You remember that, and you know, hopefully in four years
or four years come to knock around.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
You know I can be there.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Okay, now look for a second. Do I think she's
not disappointed. No, of course she's disappointed. You want to
be on the Olympic team. But but listen to you
listen to her talk this weekend. Hey, I use it
as motivation. Hopefully I can be there. This is the
best team of the world, you know. I have to
give her so much credit for how classy she has
been throughout all of this controversy that she has nothing
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to do with over the past few weeks. Nothing and
she you know, while jealous players and analysts want to
do their thing to diminish Caitlin Clark because either, hey,
we feel everybody should have been paying attention to WNBA
before she showed up. Hey, she's a young player. We're
jealous of her success. Why does she have a shoe deal?
There has been no shortage of people, both both who
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play in the WNBA and people who write about it
and cover it and talk about it, to sit here
and say, oh, yeah, Caitlyn Clark, she's not that good,
She's not that great. Wnbay's got a Kitlin Clark problem,
which is just ridiculous. All Caitlyn Clark has done is
show up to play.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Now.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Does she talks smack during a game? Of course she does,
But that's that's that happens during a game. Everybody talks
back during game.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
That's nothing.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
But there's no there's no coming out after a game
and saying I can't believe this is happening, and this
needs to go on, and this needs to go on.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
All that she has been classy when.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
She is getting all kinds of flak from every side,
and mainly it's jealousy and it's other people who are upset.
It's something that has nothing to do with her. And
that's what kind of pisses me off about this whole thing, Mike,
is that everybody says, oh, ba's got a Kitlin Clark problem. No, no, no,
w wnbda has got a problem. It's had nothing to
do with Kitlyn Clark because she's not doing anything. If
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she was coming out, she was angel reacing it, and
she was coming out and talking all the time about
how great she is and all this, and I'm going
down in history and I'm doing this.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
I'm doing then I get it right. I mean, look, hey,
you come.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Out and be outspoken, You're gonna make yourself a target people. Okay,
let's see how good you really are. But she's not
done any of that. She's been quiet, she has taken
everything that's gone her way, and she has been really
classy throughout this entire situation. And that's what upsets me
is that the optic is there's a Caitlin Clark problem.
Now everyone else has a problem. She's the one that's
actually fine with this. She's not doing or saying anything
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to Foster any sort of of ill will. She's not
out canvassing saying how do I not make the Olympic team.
I'd love to play if they want me. She's done
none of that. And yet, and yet, it seems like
at every turn there are people ingrained in the game
of women's basketball that want to come out and say, yeah,
I don't like her, I don't think she deserves it,
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whatever it is. They want to come out and say
how anti Caitlyn Clark they are, when all she is
coming into the WNBA and lifting it up. But no, no, no,
that's not good enough. People still want to hate. And
I got to give her a lot of credit because
it would be enough for me to sit here and say,
if you don't want me, I'll find I'll go play
in a different league. I'll go overseason, play in Europe
from millions and millions and millions of dollars, I'll go
play it.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
No, but I'm coming to the WNBA.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
I want to help. This is where I want to be.
And still she's being treated at arm's length, which is
absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
Well that's you know, she's you say, there's it's not
the Clark problem. It's the other side of it, and
certainly from a commentator standpoint. We've talked about it at nauseum,
the you know folks saying well where were you? It's like, well,
we're here now, and yes, it's all learning curves. Like
when people try to talk Stanley Cup final, it's like
hockey guy might get mad for a minute and then realize,
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wait a minute, you're talking hockey. This is cool. And
I think that's the moment that kind of needs to
happen here for the WNBA women's basketball. We've been talking
about women's sports, you know as a collective, you know,
with the US women's national team for soccer starting to
lead the way, and you see what extrapolates from there.
With Clark, she could teach pr classes the way she's
(35:53):
gone through. Angel Rees had that moment where it got
clipped off talking about you know, about me, and she
went to that a couple of times, but also been
pretty good to make sure to add, hey, other folks
have been here, and that's true. Again, it's all about
the embracing and the reht rhetoric around it. You know,
the closest Clark's ever come to stepping, you know, putt
(36:15):
her foot in her mouth was the you know, I
feel like I'm getting hammered, which made for a great
Saturday night bar run and a T shirt line that
you can just talk about, Hey, I'm going to a festival,
which shirt I feel like I'm getting hammered. Okay, you
can do that. But beyond that, you know, it's all
she just keeps getting up, take the hits, keep working.
It's the right attitude, the right way to go, and
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eventually it'll wear off like that and that anger and
that anxiousness that people have will eventually go away. I
won't subside anytime soon because ratings are too high and
there's too many other elements to it to get people
excitable in this echo chamber.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yeah, it's it's just I feel like if you if
you hooked up a lot of to the WNBA players
and let's say, what's your feeling about Caitlin Clark, you
get a lot of them who would say, I love
what she brings, but I wish she wasn't here. We
should have the attention that we're getting without her being here.
I think that's what they that's what they would say.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
Oh sure, well, and unfortunately that's fantasyland. Not just a
Byce and Disney.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
It's just insane.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
But she has been nothing but class throughout this entire ordeal.
More on that, but coming up next, we get back
into the biggest story in basketball?
Speaker 3 (37:31):
What now for a team who got really embarrassed? Today?
Speaker 2 (37:34):
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Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (37:45):
The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon
Live from the tire rack dot Com studios.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Danny Hurley is a new Lakers head.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Go ah wait, no, sorry, he isn't Danny Hurley deciding
I don't want your seventy million dollars. I'm gonna stay
at Yukon and chase my third national championship.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
A guy the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Went all in on has decided to stay in stores Connecticut.
So what happens now?
Speaker 3 (38:12):
How bad a failure was this for the Lakers? Joining us?
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Now?
Speaker 1 (38:15):
I'm the hotline, longtime Lakers insider with the La Times,
friend of the show, and a guy who actually had
control of Buster Only's Twitter account earlier today?
Speaker 3 (38:25):
What's happening?
Speaker 6 (38:26):
Bud guys to the moon. We're taking buster coin to
the moon.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Well, dude, I look at today and I don't know
that there's been a day where you can see the
Laker brand is at a lower level because not only
did they not get the guy, they went all in
after he basically played them for more money He's gonna
get at Yukon and I this is just this is
just a disaster that I saw for the that that
(38:54):
that happened today for the Lakers, and I don't know
where they go from here.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
I think I I agree with a lot of that.
I mean, I think it's not that hard to close
your eyes and remember a very similar situation that happened
in a not too distant Laker path twenty years ago. Actually,
when this team went all in to hire Mike Schufsky
and failed and I believe ended up with threey time
(39:19):
Janovich and failed and.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
Didn't coach k get paid like five hundred k in
this search or something like you know.
Speaker 6 (39:29):
So, I mean, look, this has happened before. I mean,
this is the risk Lakers are not. Like, this is
the risk that you run when you swim in these
college coaching waters because you can offer more money the
Lakers did. You know, you can offer a better off
(39:50):
season esque lifestyle, which the Lakers can, right, But here's
what you can't offer.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
You can't offer the.
Speaker 6 (39:56):
Type of autonomy that you get in college. You can't
offer the type of control and you know, the type
of dopamine hit from winning and weirdly enough from losing
that you get in college, which is something that Early's
talked about, right, Like you gave an interview to sixty minutes,
I think earlier they share where you'd said something about how,
(40:19):
you know, one of his favorite feelings is the feeling
after a loss where it just feels like it's like
death in a locker room and it's just like everybody's
just like you lose this game, and you feel like
if you have three of those in the NBA season,
like you're cooked. But it's the seasons too long. It's
like to get that emotionally high, to get that emotionally low,
(40:40):
you know, and the Lakers couldn't offer that. And I
think whether it was a bad fit, whatever it was,
you know, he chose the happiness that he knows and
not the uncertainty that was ahead of him. And let's
be really fair.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
This is a lot of.
Speaker 6 (40:58):
Uncertainty, and you know, the Lakers kind of looked like
they've been taking for a ride for four or five
days in a really really strange coaching search. That says
a lot, because somewhere hitting within the Laker logo is
the words it's been a really strange coaching sort of
(41:20):
what they do. And this has been a this has
been an exceptionally weird one.
Speaker 5 (41:24):
Well, and that's I guess to go back to it.
Right when this first hit the radar in the middle
of last week, had it been circulating it all behind
the scenes, you heard this. I mean we joked about
after he won the title, and it was obvious that
Ham was going to get fired, but it was kind
of a all right, throw throw stuff up against a wall.
So all of a sudden, this report comes out from
(41:45):
friend of his family Dan, and here we are.
Speaker 6 (41:48):
Yeah, I mean that part of it is strange. I mean,
like I can't like totally like clean exactly what all
of that means. But it was a surprise, you know,
and I'm not I'm not a shame to say it.
I've been talking to probably a circle of twenty or
so people in and around the organization in coaching circles
(42:10):
people who were early round candidates for this job. And
I never want sort of anybody to say like I'm
nervous about Dan Hurley in this mix, like it never
came up, which is a weird.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
It's just and look, if you're.
Speaker 6 (42:26):
Rob Polinka, like you have reasons to keep the secret right,
like one like you don't want Medishpia finding out right,
Like that's one thing you don't want kind of Dan
Hurley's sort of like flirtation with the NBA. You don't
want competition for that too. For Dan Hurley. You don't
want it out because you're trying to recruit and you're
trying to keep guys out of the portal and different
(42:48):
things like that. You want Alex Caravan to come back
to school, you know, just in case this doesn't work out.
So you know, you you the Lakers moved in a
real sort of cone the silence on this, you know,
and my immediate reporting was after you know, this got announced.
I mean, there were people and this isn't like interns,
(43:09):
which in the Lakers, the people high up in the
organization who had no idea that this was going to happen.
No cup. Right, this is very much a rock like
a genie bust thing. And now that it's fallen apart,
it is you know, the pressure I think is doubled.
I mean, look the pressure on these people to get
this decision right. It was always really important. This only
(43:32):
makes it harder because now it sort of throws the
entire process into what's sort of like for like you're
like an examination, right, Like you want to look at
it and say, like, well, you know, did they talk
themselves into Dan Hurley? Did they talk themselves out of
jj Reddick, did they talk themselves out of James Virego?
Where do they stand? I mean, like they you know,
(43:53):
like you said, they pushed all in on this hand.
You know, they might not have any chips, but they
still need a coach, so you know, and if you
can't get it right, like, how does this ripple to
your roster? I mean you know, look, I think at
the end of the day, I still have not been
presented with a compelling alternate destination for Lebron James other
(44:13):
than the Lakers that can combine money, competitiveness, and happiness.
But like you know this knowing Lebron like he doesn't
want the last two years of his career, if that's
how hover long he's gonna play, like to be like
a total disaster, Like that's not the hope, you know
what I mean? And I think I think you wonder
(44:36):
like if this does this, how does this sit with him?
You know? I mean he's out there tweeting today about
you know, responding to people about people who think he's
not about winning, Like that's not an accident, I don't
think today. I think that is a well timed response
to a tweet.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
So so what does happen from here? I mean, is
is JJ Redick Lebron's guy? As he's secretly happy that that?
Dan Hurley didn't say yet. Yes, I mean I don't
know where that's the thing is, Dan, I don't know
where the Lakers go from here, Like what's what's the
next thing? If they were all in on Dan Hurley
And you know you told us last week that hey,
all the JJ Reddick talks seem to come from outside
(45:12):
the circles that we're making decision with the Lakers, Like
like what is it now? Like, like how do you
go and say, oh, this is our guy?
Speaker 6 (45:19):
Yeah, Well that's going to be a hard part right,
You're gonna have to lie to yourself in a real way,
a real stands ask like it's only a lie if
you don't believe it to be true, the type of thing.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Or Homer Simpson, it takes two to lie, one to
lie and one to listen.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
So there's that to go on.
Speaker 6 (45:38):
I think you know the the way that I would
do this, and I have to be like totally clear,
like I don't know the answer to this right now.
It is mind boggling. Like I think the way you
do this right is if you're the Lakers, you have
not had like the formal Gayoretick interview yet, that doesn't
(45:59):
mean you haven't spoke them, and that doesn't mean you
haven't spoken to them extensively because they have, but like
they haven't done like the full on like meet everybody
in the building, like give JJ Redick a chance to
win this job. Now, what's an interesting factor in this
and these are the things we don't know, is like,
was there an event that occurred prior that you know
(46:21):
precipitated the pivot seemingly a pivot to Dan early now
or did the Lakers truly believe that it was Dan
early from day one? You know, like that is a
big question mark. No one knows. And if there was
an event that forced the pivot, you know, let's say
the Lakers decided in the end that they didn't want
to hire somebody who had no coaching experience. Can they
(46:43):
go back on that now?
Speaker 4 (46:45):
You know?
Speaker 6 (46:46):
Is that a possibility?
Speaker 4 (46:48):
Do you.
Speaker 6 (46:50):
Reset the process and give some of the other assistants
that you talked to along the way to Sam Casseels
and David Edelmans, the Micanoris of the world, you know,
names by the way that like three weeks ago, four
weeks ago seemed really exciting. Now that Denver and Minnesota
out of the play, let's seem a little less exciting.
You know, do you do you do you circle back
(47:13):
on those guys and give them a bigger opportunity or
do you kind of look at Reddick and James Wrego,
the two guys that you would kind of move the
furthest with. And I think Sam dis is inappropriate that
but but really, do you look at those two guys
and we'll say Sam is a third and say like, okay,
we need to pick one of these guys.
Speaker 4 (47:33):
And now at this.
Speaker 6 (47:34):
Point it's like, let's do the least you do the
least amount of harm, right, which is like the worst
possible methods, right, like that, that's not what you want
to say before you hand the keys. I mean franchised
to somebody. And I think that's not to say that
these people aren't capable. I think they are, but I
do think that you know, if you're going to go it,
if you're gonna They clearly thought Curly was worth the
(47:56):
bigger swing, and now that they wif you know, it's
you know, no one likes to feel like a second choice.
And look, the good news is though, in the NBA,
there are ways around this, right like extra year here
at option there a couple extorts, got I mean a
(48:17):
couple a couple of million dollars can can solve some
hurt feelings pretty quickly in this league. And I think
that's probably how this story ends. But it hasn't ended
yet and the draft is in three weeks.
Speaker 5 (48:33):
Yeah, good times, Yeah that's about right. Yeah, I mean,
look always Steam Park tickets and then some gift cards
to some bougie restaurants. He's dan Waki La Times with
us here Jason Smith Show with me Mike Harmon from
the Diirach dot Com, Fox Sports Radio Studios find Dan
always worked the La Times of course and at dan
Waki Sports. I kind of like the original thought of
(48:54):
all this though, Dan, where it was going to be
jj Reddick and the stars looking over his shoulder, uh,
and that we were wondering when the coup was gonna
kind of fall. I mean, look, as a media person,
that's the key. I don't want to see my my
Laker friends, you know, kind of lose their minds game
to game. But that was the best theater for me.
Speaker 6 (49:14):
Well, look, I think so you know, I covered Jaja
with the Clippers, and I don't pretend to know him
in you know a real sort of like like I wouldn't.
I would be a bad I couldn't testify.
Speaker 5 (49:31):
Well you could see you how they portrayed him on clipped.
Speaker 6 (49:33):
But like I've got to know him. I've got to
know him pretty well through time. And like I will say,
like I do think like one, if he thought he
was in danger of being walked over, he wouldn't dig
the dup, like like that's like that is not what
he is about. Like he isn't a you know, and
(49:54):
I think like he probably has a little like Dan Hurley.
And I'm in the sense that it's like he is
a very passionate person and he will like clap back
at you if he doesn't like what he sees and
he doesn't like what he is right, you know, it
can like go google a Duke NC State game disrespect,
(50:15):
you know what I mean, Like and and I think
like there's an element of that, Like, so I really
truly believe that given the opportunity in this job, like
I think there's a chance he could be really good
at it. He's a smart person, he's analytic, but he
also obviously has the experience as a player. He's been
away from the game long enough that he's probably been
(50:36):
able to like kind of like wipe the NBA player
crust out of his eyes and see it a little
more or less blurry and be able to see more
than one side of it. And you know, he's.
Speaker 10 (50:48):
An incredibly hard worker, Like he's an inpredibly hard working maniacal,
Like I'd still like, I mean that's a that though,
you know, Like I mean, but if he doesn't like it,
what if you know, he thought it would be one.
Speaker 6 (51:04):
Thing and it's something different. What if these are all
the real questions that you have to ask about any
Anybody does anything for the first time and you think
they're gonna be good at it. And I've said it once,
I said a hundred times. This is the weirdness that
comes with Lebron James at this stage of his career.
Is that like JJ Redick might be a very good
(51:26):
four or five year bet, Dan Hurley might have been
a very good, poor or five year bet. By the way,
and you're still making five year bets with two really
important years, we'll say at the front of it. With
Lebron James, and there's not a lot of time for
learning curves, There's not a lot of time for development.
(51:48):
You know, his patience extends a little bit, but it
only goes so far to get the best version of him.
And it's a hard situation.
Speaker 4 (51:58):
Guys.
Speaker 6 (51:58):
I will say this about the Dan Hurley thinger quickly too,
and this I swear, I'm not holding water for anybody
on this, but it is Laker fans got worked up
into a real cusy on this. There is there is
almost no track record of people being good and what
Dan Hurley was about to try to do, I should say, great,
I'm sorry you know you have Brad Stevens. Sure, I
(52:20):
mean you have Billy Donovan. Like the numbers would tell
you that what Billy Donovan is accomplished with the thunder
and the bulls. If you get that out of the
college coach that you hire with no NBA experience like
you have, I mean, like the like the alternative is
John Bulin, Rick Beatino, John Copart, you know what I mean.
(52:41):
Like there are like there are there's a mountain of
guys who've tried this and stunk at it.
Speaker 4 (52:47):
You know.
Speaker 6 (52:47):
So I'm not saying blessing in disguise. I'm saying that
this job is a really hard job no matter who
takes it, and there there are really healthy arguments to
be made and straj Redick a lot of which, by
the way, you could also sort of make against Dan Hurley.
It's just, you know, I mean, the track record of
guys who've had no coaching experience, who come from like
(53:09):
the booth and something like that for the front office
to coach is also not very good. It's there's a
the this is the this is the state of the search.
It's a lot of projection, and I think people talk
themselves into Dan Hurley because of the championships and you know,
at least there's that and some big name and it's
a swing and it's inspired. But uh, you know, this
(53:31):
doesn't mean the Lakers are gonna come up next time
here at the play here in the coaching search and
be able to you know, a and Andrew Vaughn slap
single like you know and Andrew and Andrew being tendee,
Uh drive it to the mid right field. Like no,
(53:52):
they're going to happen. I mean, they're going to be
taking another big swing and there's no safe option here.
I guess James regular option, but I guess I mean
Cleveland likes him too, like you know, like you're on
the clock and so yeah, it's it's a mess.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
He's on Twitter at dan wiki Sports that has had dants.
Speaker 5 (54:11):
Wait he sees how the White Sox launched tonight.
Speaker 1 (54:14):
There is your state of the Lakers right there from
Lakers engineer.
Speaker 6 (54:18):
Guys off the West coast. Please please for the afternoon.
Speaker 3 (54:22):
Indeed, do appreciated, my friend. We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 5 (54:25):
See you, buddy.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
Okay, there he goes, great great stuff from Dan Waky
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