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June 28, 2024 52 mins

Jason and Steve tell you why Gregg Berhalter needs to be fired immediately. Rich Paul reportedly told other teams not to draft Bronny or he’ll play in Australia. And the guys settle the “Caitlin Clark/Angel Reese” rivalry debate. Plus, a visit from NBA Insider Ric Bucher!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
Greetings, Welcome inside, Happy Thursday, The Jason Smith Show with
my best friend Mike Hart, who is on vacation in London,
especially Levey Steve de Sega.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
He's in for.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Allman this week, So for the entire week I would
talk like this while Almond's gone.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Then I'll go to London. I talk like that for
the week after back.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
Well, that's not annoying at all.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
No, No, it's gonna walk out, right, is that? Why if?
Why if? What if? Why if? Wy if?

Speaker 5 (00:55):
What if?

Speaker 3 (00:55):
What if? What if? What if?

Speaker 4 (00:57):
Well?

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Why if we hit on something that's pretty good will
be pretty good?

Speaker 4 (01:01):
You're sounding like the British tourists. I sat next to
it at Dodger game. Once, I was explaining, in our
outfield pavilion seats, you realize the ball in the sport
leaves the field of play. A home run could actually
like be hit here. And the response was the ball
could come here, yes, actually yes. Later that night a
fly ball came over our heads. I watched it back

(01:22):
on the news. The two of us, my friend and
I were reaching for the ball. The two tourists were
literally cowering. If they could have gone on the concrete
under the seats, they would have. But it was that
exact voice. What happens if hit by that?

Speaker 3 (01:36):
What happens? What happens.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
It's on the back of the ticket. Well, when we
used to have tickets.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Sometimes the cricket it goes out, but the throat right
back in there, how it goes.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
The other thing with that, with that accent, was when
I said, hey, there's a runner leading off first base,
he could actually like try and steal and the pitcher
throws over and I hear he sneaky.

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Speaker 1 (02:15):
Well, before we get to Brawny, James just want to say,
after watching the first forty five minutes of the presidential debate,
there is one clear choice for president, and it's Grimace.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
That is the he needs.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
He it on that stage right away with the METS
hat and the glove and start talking about I turned
around the fortunes of the Mets. I can do the
same thing for everybody here in the United States. Whatever
you want ask me questions. Well, mister Grimmas, what is
your plan? I throw out the first pitch in any
city that's having any kind of difficulty. What happens after that?
They rebound?

Speaker 4 (02:47):
So your bumper sticker would be purple over orange for.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Exactly exactly, exactly, yeah, exactly, say hey, and I would say,
you know, here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
This is where we all come together.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Because Republicans the color is red, Democrats the color is blue.
Oh you put him in get next blue and red together,
you get me, you get purple.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
So he's a great uniter, Grimace.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
So what you're saying is, if Krimis is our president
in this country, President Grimace.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Don't hurt him with respect.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
The whole presidential physical fitness for kids goes out the door.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yeah you have a shake every day?

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, exactly, and you wind up his size. Hey, kids
would love that, right way, I have to work out.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
You just have a shake the size of a bell
that was on your mom's shelves growing up.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Like a protein shake that.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
I'm like, no, no, no shake, he's cream, chocolate, whatever
you want.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Making a meal? What do you got, Frostburg.

Speaker 5 (03:34):
I'm following this debate very carefully here in the studio.
I got the volume up. Okay, this is like crazy.
They've actually agreed on something here, really, Biden and Trumpet.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
They both agreed. Okay, what do they agreed on? The bar?

Speaker 4 (03:46):
Altar should be fire?

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Oh my goodness, yeah, I don't see. After you watch
I gave today, how you Okay? Well, things are still
gonna go well for the United States.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
Immediately on the postgame show on Fox.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
I think he was I think he was foaming at
the mouth with what he had to say right away
after that, and it was unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
I think I can quote him directly after the US
lost to Panama to one tonight, Boy, if the US
doesn't get out of its group on Monday Night after
that game against Uruguay, Greg Burholter will lose his job
and he deserves to.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Oh yeah yeah, But it was much more like I'm shaking.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
I'm talking.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
It's like when you when what are your kids does
something that makes you so mad or somebody's something so
mad and you're just shaking because you're so upset what
you're saying.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Burholter will lose his job.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
And rightfully so, I mean he threw that at the end,
and rightfully so.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
I mean it's and not just getting out. And this
is what I was thinking most of the second half
of tonight's game watching Fox, is you know, it could
be worse. The US could lose this game and then
a goal in the eighty third minute, and they did
lose this game to one to Panama, which means now
the U will likely need to beat first place Uruguay
on Monday Night just to advance out of the group.

(05:05):
That game's Monday Night on FS one. Why you say
would they have to win and not get a tie,
because Panama, whom the US tied tonight, gets to play
last place Bolivia on Monday to finish up, so probably
a win there. Now, look that's like your homecoming game.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yeah, exactly, we're only going to play seven or eight.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
We don't need to play all of it.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
But Bolivia tonight was down in the first twenty minutes
or so, down to nothing to ergo.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, it was very quickly that happened, which is why
you heard the entire day. And most likely they will
need to beat Uruguay because they will beat it most likely.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
Yeah, but you can't put it in pen. But that's yeah,
quite likely.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Here's my two biggest concerns about US Soccer and where
they are run after losing today to Panama, which was
incredibly embarrassing. Yes, you had stuff happen during the game.
You had tim Way getting an awful red card and
undisciplined punch in the back of the head. The fisher
looked at it for all of three seconds, so it
up red card, You're out. So that changes every upgraded

(06:05):
after video review, it's like, would you like to upgrade
for a red card?

Speaker 4 (06:09):
No, I'd like to say to the La supersize, we're
going to keep the grimace thief.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
We're going to upgrade you to a red card. Oh, Okay,
that's great. But here's here's the two things that that
really hit me about this and why Burholter. I mean,
I feel like we just have to go on from
this era.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Please.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
We've seen so much of Greg Burholter and you can debate,
and here's the thing about this.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
You can debate his.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Tactics during the game and what he did and some
adjustments that he made, some adjustments that he made worked,
some adjustices that he made didn't work. I don't know
that Baligan has got to take out of the game
at that point. I agree with Clint Dempsey. He had
just had it. He biffed a big scoring chance by
taking a shot because he got a little shot appy,
but still he was playing well.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
He scored the big goal early.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
It's it reminds me of when Kristin Press was playing
for the US women. You could get instant offense and
somebody not afraid to shoot, and somebody that just doesn't
send the ball into the crowd actually makes the goalie work.
This guy's been good in the year less than a
year we've been seeing him with the US.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
But outside of that, the two biggest things right that
I look at, I said, we need a change. And
this is why people are going to be watching the
game Monday night, hate watching because it's going to be Oh,
if we win, we move on. But if we lose, Hey,
we're gonna get rid of Burholter. Is that he's been
the coach now for a long time, right. I still
don't know what our identity is. If you said, what

(07:28):
does the United States do?

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Well, what do they do?

Speaker 1 (07:30):
What do they game plan every every game to impart
their will on the game?

Speaker 3 (07:34):
What do they do? What is their idea?

Speaker 1 (07:36):
What does you know We're gonna do X and Y
every single time and other teams know we have to
stop X and Y. The only thing I come up
with is get the ball to Polistic, which as a
youth coach, I get it. I want to get the
ball to my best player too. I don't know what
the plan is at midfield. I don't know what the
plan is to try to figure out offensively? Is he
married to what he has up at striker? I just

(07:58):
don't know. I do is it's going to be part
of our doubt?

Speaker 3 (08:01):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (08:02):
It's still just a bunch of guys out there, and
I don't know what our identity is. This is not
life and that's a big and that's a big thing,
right you think by now you pieces we're built on
the back line and everything comes out of there. We're
built in our midfields because we attack. We're built here
and I don't know what that is. And that's a
big question, because this is what is falls under your
category of head coaches to we have to instill a culture.

(08:23):
We have to tell you what we're about. We have
to tell you exactly what our plan is and what
our identity is.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
And they still don't have one.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
A couple of holes on defense tonight, but as far
as him, and this is again through the last World
Cup cycle and then an interim coach for month after
month after month, and then they rehire the same guy,
which is a who led the search search of my success?

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Who is it?

Speaker 4 (08:45):
It's me?

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Oh hey, that's great, that works.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
We all collectively did a literal face Paul, not the emoji,
but like, are you kidding me? And the guess who's
co hosting the World Cup in two years? They got
to figure this out. We have to let's say this outline.
We're not the first to say it out loud. We
have to take advantage of the crew that we have
on the roster these days. We have never in our

(09:08):
lifetimes had this type of young talent playing with the
famous clubs in Europe. We're finally getting that we're progressing
as US soccer development, if you want to call it that.
And they've played together for a few years now. We've
got to get something out of this generation before Polistic
is thirty eight years old. That's boy, I never actually
got there.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
But the other part of it is, and this is
even bigger than instilling the culture and what our identity is, right,
which still is amazing that he's been the head coach
this long.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
We don't have one.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
Yeah, it's not like when you bring up Harbo for example.
You know what kind of identity win or loss you're
gonna get.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
There's a focus, you know, even with Kleinsman, it was Okay,
the identity was, this is Kleinsman's team and his decision. Okay,
it made a like it or not like it, but
that was that was what the identity of this.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
You'll find every quasi American that you've never heard of
is living in norm come player was yeah, whatever, But
the bigger.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
The bigger part of it for me is this is
that and again this is away from the from the gimmicks,
and away from the strategy, and away from what Burlock
does doesn't do. But this United States team still is
prone to bad decisions, emotional decisions, stupid decisions way and
not controlling himself and getting and getting a red card.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
I still see so many.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Goals we give up where I go, how do the
defenders not know who to be marking on this play?

Speaker 3 (10:29):
Right?

Speaker 1 (10:29):
I get the ten or fifteen minutes following the red card,
things get a little weird because, all right, we're.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Trying to figure out what the best alignment.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Were, Right the first goal you get into the eighty
the two goals, I mean that the first goal, I'm like, okay,
there were three players surrounding their striker and they still scored.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
All right, I get it. It's things are going. But
that goal in the eighty.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Fifth minute, it's it's there's there's three guys around there,
and I'm saying, how do you not know who to
be marking? And we still see this. We saw this
at the end of the World Cup last time, when
we got absolutely embarrassed in the last game in the
knockout round where where players are running wide open on
the back end because we're not covering.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
The right players. And I still see that.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
I still see on the field our defenders not knowing
where to go, not knowing who to mark, and I
see the ball coming down and one striker having it
between three players and they still find a way to
get get it by them in the back of the net.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
I don't see any bit of.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Reliance or responsibility that the players have taken. Why do
we still talk about players being unmotivated and up and
down from game to game. This is the United States
men's national team. This is the best we've ever been.
How do you still take well Weston McKenny and his motivation.
Why is that still going on?

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Right?

Speaker 1 (11:38):
This all falls under the category of the head coach.
And I know the players are pros and this is
what they're paid for, but this is different. You have
to make sure everybody's on the same page and everybody
knows what they're doing. And there's still times during a
game where I go, I know that we knew what
we were doing. I don't know what we were doing
on that left when they were pressuring us so hard.
I don't know that we knew what we were doing,
and usually the back line is pretty stout, but boy,
they're out of position.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
A lot, and I go, this falls under Perholter.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
This is the fact that we don't have an identity
and you still see mistakes, whether they're emotional mistakes, whether
they're motivational mistakes or on field mistakes.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
There's just too many of them.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
And defense with the veteran he's passed thirty five I
think now with him Briem his man beat him to
get the first half shot off that scored the goal.
He also remember had the off sides that cost the
US a goal after reader review in the fifth minute
of the game, and Anthony Robinson in the first half
couldn't stop the goal that went in, and in the

(12:33):
second half the game winner. He handed Panama that possession
with a bad clearance pass, kicked it right to him
and in the eighty third minute of Panama goal wins
it two to one. So when we're talking about the
coach not doing a good job, certainly we're not only
talking about tonight, and we're not only talking about the
opening game, which was two nothing over an awful Bolivia team.

(12:53):
Let's just call it what it is. You know, tonight's opponent,
Panama's not ranked in the top twenty. They're not ranked
in the top Olivia is not in the top eighty
in the world. That should have been at least three
or four. Nothing last Sunday. And remember one of the
tune up games was a US five to one loss
against Columbia, a real opponent, and ever since he's come back. Well,

(13:14):
let's go back to October. What's the US record. It's
five five and one. This is not good enough.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Yeah, but and against teams not named Mexico. What's our record?

Speaker 4 (13:23):
Yeah, exactly, oh eleven.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
I mean, I really it's I mean I don't get
to play al Salvador all the time.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
Okay. By the way, the referee was from mel Salvador.
Tonight did not bathe himself in glory, No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
But I mean that's when you look at why does
Greg Burholtony Why do people say this? Forget about because
you can question a guy's strategy and should he have
done this?

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Should he had done this? If something works out, it
works out. If it does it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
But just those two things, the lack of an identity
and the mistakes that are still made, both mental and physical.
How are we still going on with this? I mean, like,
how is this okay? I feel like John Oliver? How
is this okay?

Speaker 6 (13:58):
Like?

Speaker 3 (13:58):
I don't my bread bit okay? I unerstand okay.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
Let's bring it back to your hate watch and comment,
which brings us back to a US super fan that
we have on the show all the time talking to NFL,
Jason lock and for saying before this tournament started he
loves these players and he hoped the US got creamed
and bounced quickly out of this tournament so US Soccer
would wise up and do something about this ridiculous coaching

(14:24):
we hire and do something about it so we can
actually plan properly and get something set before we co
host a World Cup in two years exit.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
How about a fresca that Jason Smith show Steve de
Sager in from my carbon I mean, talk about all
the strategy you want. Those two reasons right there should
be those blinking red light, blinking red lines. We'll have
more on this coming up because now already Greg Burholter
has late blame as to whose fault it was for
losing today.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
But straight ahead, Brownie James is a Laker.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
And you got people that are all sorts of upset
about this one thing. I don't think the Lakers lebron
Bronny have thought through when they talk about Bronny playing
on the Lakers with his dad. That's coming up next
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You know I was thinking about this, Stevo. Instead of
Grimace running for president? Oh you know what if I
ran under my normal my normal platform of gas and
milk under two dollars a gallon, oh everything else I

(16:58):
figure out. But Grimace is by running mate and Grimace
is the vice president.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
Even better?

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah, there we go.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
Now, wait a minute, how how do you get gas
and milk under? Do you like massive subsidies like keeping
the w NBA afloat, so it's really not it's an
artificial price.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
In other words, yeah, oh yeah, Well listen, here's the
thing is, I have the ideas. I just will have
smart people figuring it out. Oh that's what I have,
smart people. Listen. What I do is, here's I have
the cabinet meeting are.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
Listen, that's what you're gonna do differently.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Here's ideas I have, and then I say it and
then it's up to them to go implement it, and
I will.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Take all the credit at the end.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
You know what, to add this idea of sending Grimace
in to all the cities that need help and him
throwing the first ball outlet. Look, look what happened all
these cities there, They were in trouble. Here they need
any money on education, the money schools were crumbling.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Here.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
I send Grimace in for the first pitch. Look what
happens right away.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
As a way to drive down those prices, what you're
gonna do is, instead of like Canada attacks people so
much so they get healthcare at this great deal, you're
going to tax them so that milk goes down.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yes milk, Yeah, milk goes down, and gas goes down.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
And I get everybody, Wait a minute, what's your focus
on Grimace and all the fast food for the kids.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
Anyway, I just need Grimace. I just need Grimmace standing
next to me.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
It's like, Okay, I got Grimace now, and I got
all the kids telling their parents you got to vote
for Grimace, vote for the guy with Grimace.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
So this is like when the sugar commercial comes on
and the kid influences the parents.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Yes, that's how would go. That's how I would do it.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, and I would say this, Hey, listen, you know
you all get sick of me talking about my favorite teams.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
How about this.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Every Jets win on a Sunday in the regular season.
Everybody's off from work on Monday in school, so.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
No days off.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
So basically three days off a year and one day
off in October.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
That's the Belichick Crish.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Maybe one in November and one late December one too,
But Jets win on a Sunday, everybody's off on Monday.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
Well, this is actually gonna call whoever is the commissioner
by then, and to play in the NFL geef. You
haven't heard the news of today's court case, but you
know that's kind of not really gonna mess with the
whole up and up aspect of everything's cool with the
referees not being influenced.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
What if I say this, free NFL access to every
game to everyone.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
Oh so you don't have to buy such ticket?

Speaker 3 (19:22):
No, no, everybody gets every game, no matter what kind.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
As long as you have a television, we get you
and every NFL out of market game you can possible.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
You guarantee every postseason game we'll be on a regular channel.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Oh sure, one hundred percent. Yes, I will do all
of that. Well, I might vote for you. I also
would have to guarantee that Jets make the playoffs every year.
They're gonna buy Oh you had me. They have a
buy into the playoffs. They have a special playoff spot
for the Jets.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
Raised in brow. Yeah the other stuff, gas, great, gas.
I would like to see it. Should like to see
that work. Free TV for all the NFL playoff games.
Yeah yah, yeah, but then you win it of course
in a Jets direction.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
For those who haven't heard the show before. Of course,
you want off on Monday, don't you? You want off
on You like to be off on Monday?

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Wouldn't you like that? You watch that.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Jets game real interesting on Sunday, wouldn't you come on
the man fourth and goal punches in?

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Yeah, come off tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
To be the only reason to watch the Jets, of course, Jason.

Speaker 5 (20:17):
I think Steve told us without telling us that he
has bunny ears on his TV.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
When you watching, his wife stands next to TV and
puts the hands on the bunny ears. All the receptions
when you hold the bunny you're so stand there and
hold them.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
And what I'm telling you is that I work at
a place that, let's just say, did not have one
of the playoff games last year.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
No, I may football for everyone. That's all correct. Football
should be for everyone. Football should be for Everybody's there
you go.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
So there's my platform.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Really, you talk about the US men's national team not
having an identity, that's my identity as a candidate everybody
can get behind. I want everybody to win. That's not
my fault. Your team stinks, but I want your team
to win. If you need up, you tell me, I'll
send you Grimace. Grimace gets out there the swag. He'll
come back with.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
This for four years from now. You can't get anything
done on a short between June and November this year.
I know I got to strike while the Irons hot
on Grimace now, but I can't.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
I can't.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
I can't shove Grimace until twenty twenty eight comes. You know,
if you've seen his diet, he may not be around
for four years. Grimace has been around since nineteen fifty five.
I think grim is gonna be He's absolutely.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
The idea of Grimace has been around. I'm not sure that's.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
They're gonna run out of costumes.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
No, they're gonna run out of guys who are on
that diet, if you know what I mean, plenty of guys. Hey, listen,
you be Grimacesake that movie Dave where a different guy
plays the president. Yeah, just keep shoving a new guy
in there.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Oh there's White House chief of Staff. How wonderful for you?
Are we're walking where we're walking? Yeah, the old Bonnie Hunt.
We walk, We're walking, We're walking.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Meanwhile, while this was all going on that we had
the presidential debate, we had the men's national team.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
Both in Atlanta. By the way, they actually congratulated the
US fans for being able to show up on time
to that game because it was six Eastern and roads
were closed because of the debate. That's in Atlanta also,
and actually fifty nine thousand people were there.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
The one thing I didn't think they needed to do
is I didn't think Biden or Trump needed to congratulate
Georgia for beating Portugal yesterday.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
I don't think they knew that.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
You know, swing stage, they mentioned Kirby Smart a couple
of times, like, I don't think that's the right that's
not the right one.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
I want to go to get away from that.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
I've never heard of this Shellish Kaushweli. Who's the guy? Okay,
maybe he's a naturalized citizen. Maybe I had something to
do with I could see that going through their minds.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Meanwhile, Day two of the NBA draft began at nine
am this morning, and you probably woke up and saw
that it ended and Bronnie James was a Los Angeles Laker.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Shock.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Just like I told you, I thought fifty five is
going to be Brownie. I bet you he wears fifty
five in the NBA reminder of what my draft position was.
Told you the Lakers were going to take him. This
amid reports that Rich Paul had been calling teams and
saying that if you draft him. He's not gonna play
for you. He's going to Australia. So if any team

(23:08):
outside of the Suns or Lakers, the only two teams
that Brownie James worked out for, if any of those
teams drafted Brownie, he would go to Australia. Now, I
know there's a lot of people. I can't believe an
agent would do this. We have to get out from
under this. We can't let him run the league. This
would never happen in the NFL. Rich Paul telling teams hey,

(23:29):
don't draft Bronnie James, who's going to play in Australia,
is like me walking into a restaurant and the maitre
d saying, hey, if you order a salad, I'm kicking
you out.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
Okay, yeah, don't worry about it. Well, I'm good. Let's
sit down. I'm ready. I'm ready.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
Probably not gonna have you.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
I could be it could be a Caesar salad, it
could be a cop So now you order a salad
of any kind, I'm throwing you out.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Yeah, no, I'm good. Where's my seat? Where's my sat here?

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Really?

Speaker 1 (23:51):
I mean the teams did they even look at a
fax or see the email and just delete it, like facts,
how many teams we're gonna we're gonna say, yes, we
want to draft Bronnie James.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
Let's just be honest. How many teams are gonna draft him?

Speaker 1 (24:03):
He was a player that you could take or not,
which is every player in the second round of the draft.
Every guy in the second round is a project. Maybe
he works, maybe he doesn't. Sometimes you find a diamond
in the rough and the guy turns into an all star,
like a Gilbert Arenas. Sometimes, most of the time, the
second round pick plays in the G league for a
year or two and then just disappears, like, I don't
know why this was met with such sudden hatred him.

(24:26):
Oh well, I can't believe that ages trying to run
this deal. Nobody else was gonna take Bronnie James, Like
I get that you want to be chesty about this
and say, hey, look at me, I'm pledged sports. None
of us were gonna take him.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Nobody.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
There was no rumor that any team was ever thinking about.
Not even the Suns who worked him out, was like, wow,
we'd really like to take him. No, no, no, no, no,
this was where it was going all along. The fact
remains if he was a better prospect, it would be
a different story, but he was someone just like anybody
else taken in the second Aj Edwards, anybody else, Hey,
any of the Knicks picks who score like four points

(24:58):
a game. But it doesn't matter. They don't need it.
They have the best one three.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
I think in trade they picked up Tyler clok Cod
who actually had a college career. Yes at Marquez in America.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
I mean, listen, I understand we got to worry about
France in four years in the Olympics, because that's gonna
be good. All of a sudden, it's gonna be difficult.
But nobody was gonna take Brownie. This was This was
an empty threat. And all it's gonna do is backfire
on rich Paul because Rich Paul's got to get some
more clients if he wants to be continue to be
such a powerful agent, because his guys, you'll be talked
about it last night, his main guys aren't going to

(25:28):
be around for that much longer. You want to really
want to stand up and and and and get chesty
about Bronnie James. Really, that's what you want to That's
what you want to you He's going to Austra. Okay, hey,
that's fine, thanks for letting I guess that's that's great.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
I really appreciate that. Thank you. I get that I'm
not eating the salad.

Speaker 7 (25:46):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
Don't worry about it. I'm going right to a main course.
That's what's gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
It gets to the secondary issue of Wow, that's therefore
a perfect story for ESPN to create, because it's ESPN
that keeps telling us Bronnie James is prospect. It's ESPN
who tells us, Ah, what a great story for the
guy getting drafted into the NBA. It's a great dream.
And you know, he's talked a lot about trying to

(26:11):
get out from under his dad's shadow. It's a good thing.
I was not eating when I heard that. For me, ESPN,
forget the fact that, Okay, he didn't control how he
was named. He's been wearing his dad's number. Yeah, he
went to the hand selected private school in the town
where his dad moved. He went to the hand selected

(26:33):
private college, and he's going to go to the dad's
team and worked out for his dad's team. But yeah, sure,
he's trying to get out from under the shadow of
his dad. Because what he's some top ten prospect coming
out of high school. He was not, because he averaged
ten twenty points a game last year. He did not.

(26:54):
He's Brownie James. If he was Joe Smith, would he
have been taken tonight?

Speaker 3 (26:58):
Joe Smith went pretty high in the now that he
got it, I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure Joe Smith
might have went number one overall.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
Joe Jones.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Joe Jonas did not get a single drafts.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Joe Jonas will get drafted a head of Kevin Jonas,
but maybe behind h not.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
Have been taken fifty fifth overall or otherwise.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
No, But but look, this is and I still remember
when his this is been. This is going back about
five years is that. I remember I was coaching my
daughter's soccer practice, went to the field normally where we practice,
and all of a sudden, there's helicopters hovering like a
few hundred yards from the field, and I'm like, what
is going on? Probably I didn't know what was happening.

(27:35):
I'm like, what it was just just practice? Is like
after school, primly, what is going on? Why is it
such a big deal? Because the middle school that my
daughter went, she wasn't there yet. She's an elementary school.
But the one she wound up going to, which is
right there, you know, Neighborhood middle School, elementary school. That
was Brownie James's first game. He as an eighth grade
transfer student and his first game was against the middle school.

(27:56):
My daughter wound up going to, which is right near
where we live, and that was the Cup Rich for
basketball for Bronnie James. An eighth grade basketball game. That's
wors There's a helicopter flying over.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
No, no, no outdoors outdoors. It is an indoor hella.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
No, no, the game is indoors.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
So if you have a hell you for arrivals for
everything else, No, the only indoor helica is in the
mall going hey look at this, I can make this
fly to the.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
No, I'm saying, the game is taking two doors. What
is the point?

Speaker 1 (28:22):
There were live shots for for local news and it
was it was it was getting I mean, look, this
is how big a deal it is for for Brownie
to come into the LA.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
You know, I thought enough breath was wasted on the whole.
Aaron Rodgers first year with the Jets thing, this has
top that time three. It's it's unreal how much Bronnie
James talk has gone on. Let's count two years, two,
three years from now, and let's see if any of
that was worth it. I mean any of that on

(28:51):
a basketball level.

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Speaker 1 (29:42):
The Jason Smith Show is Steve de Sager and from
Mike Harmon. And you know, the WNBA has grown so
much so fast, Eve, I really think maybe twice a week,
like Thursday and Sunday, Caitlin Clark versus angel Raes like
Fever Sky on Thursday night and on Sunday, and we

(30:04):
just change India one game to Chicago.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
We kind of that.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
It's like baseball what it used to be. Hey, we
gotta have Yankees Red Sox off. Yankees Red Sox are on.
Everybody's gonna watch. Okay, let's let's have Fever and Sky.
They play twice a week. Maybe they're in their own
wa Like it's like it's a WNBA.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
Like the English Premier League.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
The top league is Fever Sky and that's it, and
then everybody else below.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
So you have to actually prove your way into the
top league or else you get relegated to the other man.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Fever and Sky are always in the top league and
you can't go up to it. You just have that's
the top league, and then there's a league under it.
There's no relegation, there's no promotion.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
You know, there has been a lot of attention, of
course to the w NBA, and justifiably so. But this
is also quite starkly, in my opinion, proven that the
WNBA has not been ready for prime time.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
No, what have I said? Be ready to handle success? Right,
and it's and the good news is that. And right
now we have the last wa A game of the
night going on right now, getting into halftime.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
Kaylyn Clark's team losing late first task, Yeah, did a
thirty six's and.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
She's got nine three and three.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Meanwhile, Angel reaes tonight eighteen and eleven as the Sky
lost their game tonight. But look, it's be ready to
handle success. And so far what we've seen the last
couple of weeks, Okay, things are starting to calm down
a little bit, which we said. I said, listen, it's
gonna start calming down right as bad as it was,
as bad as this, the racial back and forth, if

(31:29):
it was, and the jealousy, it's it's it starts.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
It's gonna calm down.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
It's about the basketball now and now it's about the rivalry,
which is a better rivalry quite honestly than we haven't
almost any other sport player versus player we don't have that.
But for all of this, well, it's Caitlyn Clark, it's
Angel Reese. It's really Caitlyn Clark. And then it's Angel Reese.
Right now, I get Angel Reese's popular and she can
be and she can be a star too. She's already

(31:53):
a star. There's other star players in the WNBA. Caitlin
Clark is on a different level, all right. For Magic
Johnson to say, Oh, it's like when me and Larry
came into the league. Yeah, thanks for thanks for taking
our take from two months ago. But Caitlyn Clark is
magic and Larry.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
Like we said it.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
They said, she's magic and Larry in this She's the
one that's bringing flights and moving games to different arenas because.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Of her power.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
It's what your people who.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Want to come see the games. This is like stuff
from the twenties. Hey, the barnstorming Yankees are coming to town.
We can't have the game here. We got to have
it at Crossley Field where one hundred thousand people are
gonna come watch. Like this is a Caitlin Clark effect
on it, And yes, yes it is great. It is
like magic and La I said it was gonna be
like when Magic and Larry got to the NBA, the
level of what they took the game too. Caitlyn Clark

(32:39):
coming in is like Magic and Larry, but she's both
of them. I know this because there is no Angel
Reese backlash on anything, right, There's no Angel the rookie
and Angel Reaves.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
And there's backlash on her. Does she deserve it?

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Is she getting extra fouls, she getting extra attention or
people complaining about No, there's no backlash for Angel rees
So that should tell you right there that Okay, yes,
Angel Reese is a really good player, and she's a star,
and she's someone that stirs the drink.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
But really it's Caitlin Clark. That's how it goes.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
I mean, there's if Angel Reese was really operating on
that level, she would be a bigger deal daily and
stuff that would happen. She would affect change in the
league a little bit more. It's just Caitlin Clark comes
in with a resume that is unmatching, a popularity that
is unmatched. And to understand popularity, you really have to
understand that they're not moving every single game that Angel

(33:28):
Reese is playing into a different arena.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
So they could fit more people.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
They're moving games that she's playing in Oh, by the way,
against Caitlin Clark to a different arena. Even Kitlyn Clark
was mad last week on we couldn't play this in
the United Center. WHOA, Okay, I thought we could play it.
But that's above my pay grade. But really understand that
that that, Yes, the rookie class coming in is great,
but the WNBA would not be anywhere where they are
right now if not for Kitlin Clark. If Angel Rees

(33:53):
doesn't come into the league. Right if Angel Reese is
still in college right now, let's say it's Kaitlyn Clark
in the WNBA, We're still getting what we're getting. They're
still getting the commercial the commercial flight set to charter,
They're still getting these games in different areas. They're still
getting more money for whatever they're gonna want up do it.
For broadcast rights, they're talking about farming out the broadcast

(34:14):
rights for the championship now because they could make more
money on it. If Angel Reese is still in college,
Caitlyn Clark comes out by yourself.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
It's like this if it was the.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Other way and Caitlyn Clark was still in college and
Angel Reese came out, we would not be seeing this, no,
and it wouldn't be.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
As an example, the game about a week ago at
Atlanta instead of in their three thousand seed arena, it
was put in the NBA arena in Atlanta and sold
out over seventeen thousand tickets for Kaitlin Clark's visit. And Clark,
by the way, is near the top in three pointers
made this year and she's top five and assists per game.
But this is not a basketball discussion. I need to

(34:48):
emphasize this. You're talking about star power like Steph Curry,
which comes from his talent, but it's something different. Once he,
for example, had that run with Davidson in March Madness
or what he became as his career went on in
the NBA, there was a fascination with his game. It
wasn't just the stat sheet of how many points did
he score?

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Yeah, and if it's almost like when we said the
games they kind of are similar to that. Her game
was Steph, that Caitlyn game was Draymond, Like okay, who's
a more popular player? Like they're both popular, both stars
who's clearly the more popular.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Both can win titles.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
They deserve to be on the floor. Both have talents.
Angel Reese, I looked it up, is eleven rebounds per game.
The leader in the league is eleven point three. So
to say she's having a good rookie season is an understatement.
She's doing exactly what they drafted her in Chicago to do.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
And now the thing about Angel Reese I'm going to
say is this is now, this is going to be
the conversation. It's she really lasted till seven. Like, really,
she lasted till seven.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
They took the injured Stanford star earlier at what two
or three.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Over get Camilla card so because when she's on, she
just hasle She's absolutely unstoppable. Now but now they have
both of them. But I'm like, wow, Angel Rees really
lasted till seven. I mean, she's easily the second best
rookie then and her and Kate and Clark had been great.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
And she lasted till seven. Man, like this is you.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Know, even Jordan went three, you know whatever. But but
her lasting till seven with what she had coming out
of college and the star power and the popularity, and
you knew it was going to be some kind of
deal where when she got to the league she was
gonna help raise the Q raiding of where she went
to by.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
She still lasts until seven.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
So instead you had the La Sparks drafting Sam Bowie.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
So really this isn't parallel so far?

Speaker 3 (36:42):
Oh so, so Cameron Brink is the Sam Bouie.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
Well of the w in the Olympics.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
No, no, you know, you know you're not. No, you're not.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
And the thing is, I I can't unsee because she
looks a lot like in the figure. No, no, no,
she looks a lot like the in in the uh
Toby Maguire's man, the guy who lived across the hall
from him, the daughter he was always asking for rent money,
and the daughter that he took to MJ's thing to
make her jealous. Like yeah, yeah, somebody put that on

(37:11):
Twitter and I go, oh, now I can un see it,
Like I cannot say that that's Cameron Brink is the
guy across the hall, slacks his daughter taller, yes, see
slightly time, That's all Every time I saw Cameron Brik,
that's all I think of is it's here, Hey, do
you want to go.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
To a party with me?

Speaker 1 (37:25):
And then he just wants to make a well Hereston
Dun's jealous.

Speaker 4 (37:29):
She's got time, and she does want to go to
a party with you.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Exit out bout of Fresco. Jason Smith, Steve de Sager
in from Mike Harmon. Coming up next, we'll get back
into the biggest story in basketball today where we zig
when you think we're gonna zag about Brownie and the Lakers.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
That's next.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Right here, you are listening to Fox Sports Radio and
we're done with Tears for Fears after this song tonight.
Oh yeah, he's ready. Oh thanks, Alex Titcher The Jason
Smith Show, Steve the saying, you're in from Mike Harmon
to me let the cat out of the bag. Rick

(38:07):
Buker is on the line waiting to talk to us.
Day two in the NBA Draft and the books we
all waited for Bronny to get taken. He goes the
Lakers at fifty five.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
What now? Well, I mean, what now?

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Since we really didn't need the draft, since obviously the
Knicks have clinched Hilario O'Brien Trophy for next year, Let's
talk to Rick Buker anyway, find out what he's learned
about the parade route for the Knicks. Rick, what can
you have for us here at this time.

Speaker 6 (38:34):
It's going to go through through Villanova, the Villanova campus.
With what I understand, you will people from New York
will get a lottery tickets and those that win will
be able to attend the parade in just outside Philadelphia.
But that's my understanding.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
I think that's fine. I think that's fair.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
I think I look, if we need Milanova await title,
we need Millanova win the title.

Speaker 6 (38:59):
You know that that's fair because at this point New
York Knicks fans will do anything including travel.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
All right, Look, now we'll get to the draft to decide.
But let me throw my greatest hot take by are
you ready for this?

Speaker 6 (39:14):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Jay Wright underachieved at Villanova. Look at all these guys
he's gotten. Make it all kind He only won two titles.
He should have won at least four, maybe five with
these guys.

Speaker 6 (39:25):
Come on, Dan Hurley would have done it right.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Alright, Look what do you make because look I look
at the Knicks. Now it's a title or bust year.
For next year, they have the best one through eight
roster in the league. When you talk about the injury
issues the Celtics have. Now Porzingis is out for a
bit like that they've they've become that big a title

(39:50):
team that quickly.

Speaker 6 (39:53):
Well they certainly they certainly have the model that the
Boston Celtics use this year to win a championship. And
I know people going to take this as a flight
towards Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown, but like this is there.
There isn't any like transformative, transcendent superstar on the Boston Celtics.

(40:16):
And I actually had this conversation with thunder GM Sam
Presty a while ago, and you can sort of see
him building the same team that he felt like where
the league was going with load management and everything else,
that depth and versatility was going to be the key
going forward. That the idea, if it was ever reel,

(40:40):
the idea of being top heavy with you know, two
or three superstars and then filling out your roster as
best you could from there was not a model that
was going to work, that was going to work going forward,
And so we saw the Boston Celtics do it, and
I believe we're seeing the same with the Knicks. The

(41:01):
funny thing within saying the best roster one through eight
is that probably yes, one through eight, if you went
one through three, you'd probably say no. One through four, probably,
But if you if you count like the full breadth
of guys that are going to be playing for you,

(41:21):
and the chemistry that you have and and and the fit.
You know, it's one of the things that I don't
think we give enough credit to or attention to, which
is like, how do the okay, So you've got great
players Phoenix for example, you got great talent, but do
their respective abilities mesh? Do you have guys who can

(41:43):
play without the ball. Do you have guys who are
playmakers with the ball? Do you have shooting? Do you
have size? Do you have defensive versatility? All those things?
The Knicks look like they have a lot of those things.
The next the next question will be can they keep
Partnerstein because he is a key element to all of this.
They lose a tremendous amount of size if they're not

(42:04):
able to keep him Rick.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
This is Steve Adam of the fifty eight selections we
had at number fifty five overall. Of course, at the
Lakers drafting Bronnie James. I'm amazing there's a Bronnie James
question out of this interview. I'll go ahead and put
it this way. If his name is Joseph Jones, is
he taken into the NBA.

Speaker 6 (42:22):
I actually made this joke with a former editor of
mine the other day, just prior to the draft, and
I said, if his name was if Bronnie James name
was Auto Bucher, he'd either be staying in school or
he'd be playing in the second division in France.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Hey, France is really good now, Rick, They're going to
kick the crap out of us in the twenty twenty
eight Olympics.

Speaker 6 (42:46):
You know what, maybe the fast way of getting getting
to the top of the draft. I mean that's the
other thing. You look at his NBA draft. We got
two French guys and a white and a small white
dude at number three. Like, what the hell happened to
the NBA? So I look at Bronnie. Look, I've talked

(43:06):
to a number of people around around the league about
him and a great kid. He's he's obviously undersized physically,
He's going to be challenging. He's sort of a combo guard,
not a pure point by any measure, and shoots and
defends okay for it too. But again that's where his

(43:29):
size is going to impact him and so he look,
he has he has a chance, he's he's willing to defend.
He can shoot a little bit high basketball IQ, but
let's face it, he couldn't start on a USC team

(43:49):
that was, if I'm not mistaken, under five hundred, but
certainly didn't make the tournament. And the guy starting ahead
of him was the twenty ninth pick in the draft,
Isaiah Colliers. So I just look, I don't The difficulty
for me here is I don't want to disparage Brownie

(44:10):
because he's done nothing to deserve deserve disparagement. But if
anybody asks me, like where does he rank, and all
of the hype around around him, or Rich Paul making
demands about we're not going to you know, we're not
going to sign a two way deal. I'm thinking between
not starting at USC and then the heart issue which

(44:34):
cost him a number of games, not even playing a
primary role in high school, like he should want to
spend some time in the D League just to get
on the floor and get his game together. So I
struggle with the hype, but I wish him the best.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
And US was fifteen and eighteen, by the way, and
also more importantly, Otto Buker was a rower for Switzerland
in the Olympics who won the silver medal in nineteen
twenty eight as a member of the Swiss rowing team. Well,
I thought you were gonna say, I got a rowing
scholarship to USC and it would come full circle of.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
Ada Buker, real p Rick. I wonder if you related
to him, spelled the same way as your name.

Speaker 6 (45:16):
God blessed Google, God.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Bless Auto Buker, there was Swiss rower. Now, look, there's
been a lot of questions about the contract that Bronni
James is gonna sign because Rich Paul very famously that
no two way deals. None of this, I mean a
lot of it, I'm sure was to scare teams away.
I'm sure he will capitulate to what the Lakers kind
of want. But I still see this as Hey, Bronny's
gonna have some time with the team. He'll play preseason

(45:40):
games this year. There'll be some video of him and
lebron will play. Maybe he gets off the bench as
a twelfth man a little bit at the end of blowouts.
But he's still gonna spend time in the G League
playing there as well. I mean the whole Hey, is
this gonna wind up being something where he's foisted on
the Lakers.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
I don't see that happening.

Speaker 6 (45:57):
It can't. It can't if they have any hopes of
I'm not going to talk championship, but if they have
any hopes of making the most out of what they are,
you can't just unilaterally start giving a guy minutes. That's
the one thing that a coach has as leverage over
his players. And the second that you start giving somebody

(46:19):
minutes who doesn't deserve them, who hasn't earned them, or
that the other players look at and recognize you're hurting
us by playing that guy, then the coach loses all credibility.
And you're talking about a coach who hasn't coached before,
can has no credibility to lose. He's trying to build

(46:41):
it in JJ Reddick. So I agree with you in
that I think it's going I don't think it's going
to be some massive spectacle. You know, will probably will
they have him on the roster to start the season,
and will we potentially get a moment at the end

(47:02):
of the game depending on how it's going, you know,
if it's a blowout one way or the other, or
do we get like you know, a minute or two
in the first quarter when it could be inconsequential. I
could potentially see that, and in fact, it might even
benefit the Lakers to do that, to kind of get
that out of the way and say, we've had the

(47:22):
first we've had the spectacle of the first father son
duo playing in the NBA. Now can we go on
about our business, try to win games.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
As far as the draft, now that it's concluded, I
didn't look at past lottery picks, but it seems like
there are more projects as lottery picks, because you get,
I mean, somebody that we've actually seen at Yukon Stefan
Castle as an example, a good Final four, but he
hardly was stringing a ton of those types of games
together through the year, and he's nineteen and hardly a

(47:51):
finished product and didn't shoot the three, and he's drafted
number four overall? Is it really when you're only.

Speaker 6 (47:59):
Talking about because at least you saw him.

Speaker 4 (48:01):
Yes, exactly. The lottery pick doesn't seem to be the
point of pride that it used to be.

Speaker 6 (48:07):
Well, here's the thing, like, there's there's real there's no
real choice. You know, some some drafts don't have a
lot of talent, and yet they are still regarded as
lottery picks. The real danger is is the number one pick,
because the number one pick is generally, regardless of the draft,
supposed to be a franchise player and he's supposed to

(48:28):
be the best player in the draft. And in this
drafts Resa say ends up being the best player. It
will be. It won't be this year, it won't be
next year, like it would be at some point. But
there are guys that are going to make a greater
impact right away simply because they have a greater body

(48:51):
of work. You know, Klingon in Portland has a great
opportunity to make an immediate impact. There. There are other
guys that are being It's a lot of it's going
to come down to the situation that they are put in,
uh and the team that they're with that is that
shapes the role that they have that's ultimately going to

(49:14):
determine their their success.

Speaker 4 (49:15):
And that's how Luke Walton worked with the Lakers for example,
a second rounder.

Speaker 6 (49:20):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean it's it really comes down
and you know, Castle being in San Antonio is actually
not a bad thing because all of the attention is
going to be on Webb Yama and uh and if
san Antonio has a season similar to next last year,

(49:40):
which I don't expect. I expect them to be better.
But he's he's he's not gonna have to face the
same media scrutiny. It's not you know, not being in
the big market. Any guy going to Salt Lake. I'm
feeling like you're in the right place. Like if you're
in this draft and you're in the I think Philipowski
went second round to Utah, great place, great place for

(50:01):
him to go. And because all of these guys, to
your point, all of these guys need time to develop.
And if you can develop without the hyper scrutiny of
you were the you know, the number three pick, the
number two pick, the number one pick. I mean, that's
the other part that I had. I had someone say

(50:24):
to me when when Atlanta drafted Research that they had
just drafted Nick Patom. So if you if you like
Nick Patomb, then there you go, that's what you got.
But that's you're getting. You're getting, like potentially a very
accomplished role player at the number one pick. And most

(50:45):
people would say, well, I expected a little bit more
out of the number one pick. Than that. Well, sometimes
you just don't have a choice in terms of the draft,
the talent that's available in a particular draft.

Speaker 4 (50:57):
Michael lawa Candy comes to mind.

Speaker 6 (50:58):
Sure, hey Andio Bennett.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
There's a number one pick every year. Sometimes the number
one pick is wenby Anthony, sometimes it's sometimes it's Auto Bucher.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
You never know.

Speaker 6 (51:08):
Sometimes if we're talking rowing without.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
What season, Rick is going on twenty three and me
right now, I got to make sure sense related to
this guy.

Speaker 6 (51:17):
I mean, maybe I was a soccer player in college.
I obviously went the wrong direction with my sports career.
I had I had the DNA of a great rower,
and I was at a school that had a rowing team.
So man, that I It's just information is really valuable
depending on the timing that you receive it. I also

(51:38):
regret that I know I didn't invest in Apple when
I had the opportunity. So now I have two regrets
to put on my list. Rick, thank you, Thank you, Jason.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Appreciate that Rick's hanging up the phone and tell his family, Hey,
we're all going rolling this weekend.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
Got to see what this family has.

Speaker 6 (51:52):
That's exactly right, that's right. I'm actually I'm down in Houston,
and my daughter's been down here working out. She hoo.
And uh and uh, you know what we're I don't
know where. I guess we're got to fly to Seattle
now and get find the regatta there. Yeah, and get going,
get her, get her in a skull.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
The Buker Regatta coming to you very soon. Rick is
always buddy, appreciate it. And when the Knick spend one
hundred million on Hartenstein will call you.

Speaker 6 (52:20):
Sounds good, very good.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
Here goes right, Buker
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