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October 30, 2024 39 mins

Jason, Mike and MLB Insider Jon Paul Morosi react to the Dodgers giving the Yankees Game 4 of the World Series. Could the combination of cayenne pepper and water turn into a win for the New York Jets? And Yankees fans assault Mookie Betts during game 4 of the World Series!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Hello, Welcome in side our three, The Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Harmon.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Mucho hobo.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
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coronation the Dodgers World Series champions. It did not go
that way. The Yankees break open a close game late,

(00:59):
they win Game four eleven to four. So now I'll
be back at it at Yankee Stadium for Game five
tomorrow night. Freddie Freeman big home run in the first
inning not enough for the Dodgers who used all of
their low leverage relievers tonight in a game in which
they could have won the World Series, that they had
a lead early and was close for the vast majority

(01:21):
of it. It's a stunning strategy. I understand the thought
behind it. Hey we're going to a bullpen game and
we are going to stick with this all the way through.
But man, you had Freddy Freeman Homer in the first
you had a close game, and the Dodgers still prioritized
lining up their pitching for the rest of the series

(01:41):
over potentially bringing in their better relievers tonight to try
to win the World Series tonight. And I am stunned
at that decision. I'm not a fan. You've let the
Yankees up off the deck. You let him back into
the series, not in the eighth or ninth inning, but second, third,
fourth inning, instead of you know, guys, guys like nat
coming in and you needed to go to some guys.
You could have kept this series, you could have potentially

(02:04):
won this game. But instead, like they were bent on,
hey we're gonna give this game to the Yankees, and
they wound up doing it.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
And you even let Aaron Judge get a hit Now
that's how bad it was.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
Right, got on on an air, got hit by a pitch,
actually got a base hit.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Joining us now on the hot line to see what
he thinks about the Dodgers' pitching decision. MLB Network insider
Extraordinair are covering the World Series. You can fall him
on Twitter at John Morosi. It is John Paul Morosi.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
What's happening, buddy.

Speaker 5 (02:32):
I am doing well my friends, and I think we
have a very interesting way of facing off you and
me about the way that Dodgers manage their pets, because
I don't have nearly as much of an issue as
you do.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
See, Because here's the thing, John Paul is I get it.
In the NLCS when it was gonna be a bullpen
game in Game two. In Game six, the Mets got
out to big leads early and Roberts didn't chase a win. Hey,
I'm gonna go with my lower leverage guy stuff rest. Okay, Well,
you let the Mets into this series. In the NLCS,
you kept it alive going back to LA, but you
got behind early. I understand that Freddie Freeman homers again

(03:07):
in the first inning. The Yankee fans Yankees are saying
this is gonna happen again to us. You have the lead,
it's two to one, it's a close game, and still
we're gonna go with the second tier relievers all the
way through it. It's almost like the Dodges were bent.
We're gonna have a game five. We're gonna the only
way we win this game is if our sub tier
relievers pitched well, and of course they got lit up.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
This is a game the Dodgers could have won, John Paul.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Instead, they chose, instead of trying to win tonight, let's
just prioritize setting our pitching up for what could be
the rest of the series.

Speaker 5 (03:36):
Well, and that's that's a very fair way of looking
at it. I would go back though, and and line
up the decisions they made. You could have argued, maybe
you go a little bit longer with Casparius in that situation,
but Hudson is one of your He's certainly not your
one or two leverage guy. But if if you had

(03:56):
made the decision that Casparius was gonna take you maybe
one time to the lineup and you needed a reliever
to come in there the third inning, I'm not sure
that you had a better option than Hudson at that
point in time. He clearly he missed on his location
to Volpie and he could tell his reaction right away.
He knew it. So really we're talking about one bad

(04:19):
pitch by a good reliever who has thrown the last
pitch of a World Series before five years ago, so
he's I had no issue with Hudson once. If they
decided they had to take Casparius out of the game,
Hudson was a fine choice. I think Nac actually pitched
pretty well. The one thing is is you'd say late
Honeywell comes in the game and then gives it up,

(04:41):
And at that point in time, I think that was
really the first time that I felt like the Dodgers
that could see that anything was when they didn't have
anybody warming up after Honeywell. And that's when I got
out of control at five, at five fours, six y four,
it's still a game at that point, I think it
just got out of hand with Honeywell. And and I'm
of the mind that if you're trailing in the eighth

(05:04):
you do have to probably get a little bit deeper
into your pitching staff. I agree that the one thing
that they did is by the way they manage it.
And again the misflocation why Hudson was part of this
is they've gotten the Yankees back in the series now,
at least from a confidence perspective, I'll say that we've
got a series in a big way. If the Yankees

(05:25):
win Game five, then we've got a real series. But
if it's if at this point in time, they at
least have their confidence going, and that that means something
for a team that's still really challenged the way the Yankees.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
Are, if nothing else, jp for one game, the Yankees
took a page out of the Dodgers book of Hey,
we're actually going to make you throw a pitch to
us right instead of first ball swinging every time, as
we'd seen very frequently in the first three games.

Speaker 5 (05:52):
That's a good point, and it was deeper counted. I'll
tell you what, you know, we can talk about a
lot of big at bats and a lot of big
moments that happened in the game tonight. To me, to
that point, I think the most important that bat of
the game was Dugo driving in the run on the
ground up because they really should have had more run

(06:12):
than ending because of you know, Volby probably should have
just not not gone back to tag up there. The
ball was so deep you could have gone halfway, and
so they at that point they really should have had
a run on the board already and at least for
Dugo to bank that run and to at least get
something for the fans to get back on board, because

(06:34):
if you had had what should have been a run
scoring triple by, Wells not driven in the run because
of what Vulby done on the basis, and then let's
say that it's pop out, pop out in the inning ends,
that would be devastating, I think under the circumstances. So
as as funny as it sounds, yes, we're gonna remember
the Grand Slam, and that was a huge molement. I

(06:55):
actually think from a momentum standpoint, the most important that
bat of the game was Verdugo two strikes binding with
to bring that runo because that at least got the
Yankees and the crowd back at the game, all.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Right, John Paul away from the game. Look, you talk
about big moments, people are going to talk about. First inning,
Mookie Betts goes for the fly ball down the line
in right field, catches it. Two Yankee fans pry his
glove over. Criminals grab his hand and grab his wrist. Luckily,
we you know, he was okay, he wasn't injured. The
umpires made the right call. It was an out call.

(07:27):
I can't say I'm surprised because this is kind of
the way we're trending in sports. Fans think they're part
of the game more and more as time goes on.
But the brazen is John Paul, I've never seen you
have a fan prying bets his glove open to get
the ball out.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
What what did you?

Speaker 1 (07:42):
I know you've seen that a bunch of times by now,
what do you think of it?

Speaker 5 (07:46):
It's disgusting. And Harold Reynolds said on our network tonight
and will Be Networks that he believes that that the
fans should never be allowed to come to a game again.
And it's hard to disagree with that statement because the
one thing you have to really understand is that the
players and their safety has to be paramount and anything

(08:08):
that a spectator does to infringe upon that and grab
a ball out of someone's glove on the field of play,
it's obviously completely unacceptable. And what this need to do
is that it needs to become a moment that everybody
involved in the sport, fans, players, executives, and media frankly

(08:32):
us that we have to explain just exactly how far
out of bounds that was and be clear about what
the consequences are if that if that happens again, because
it's just it's clearly that the fans in that moment,
you could not be thinking rationally that you could actually

(08:52):
remove the ball from a glove of a player who's
three feet away from you, and that somehow the ninety
five million cameras that are there are going to miss it,
and then you're gonna able to walk out of the
ballpark with the ball as if it's just nothing happened.
I mean, it's just it's it's completely out of bounds.
And I think the reaction has been universally along along

(09:14):
those lines, and I think it should be, because it
has to be a moment that that parents, that friends,
that everybody anybody that goes to any game us to say, listen,
this is what you don't do, and this is what
happens to you if you do something like that. It's
it's got to be treated with the with the seriousness
that I think what we all recognize is at play here.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
Jail banishment, all of those things, no question about it.
Public shaming, no question at least from where I said
JP something Jason and I were talking about a little
bit before. You're a student of this game and and
talk to hall of famers often on your podcast at
John Rossi where you find him in the Twitter verse
to something Thanks to all of that, Freddie Freeman, his

(09:55):
performance tip him, tip the scales in his direction into
the Hall of Fame, say he where did a Queen's
wave and walked off after the Dodgers finished this thing off.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
He's already there in my estimation and has been there
for a while. But this this now for a player
that has had and I'm glad you asked about this
because he's someone who of course he's a huge reason
why the Braves won the World Series, but he's been

(10:26):
valued more for his consistency and his year after year
of two hundred hits and and and production and professionalism,
and he's he's there and his part of his hallmark
is his consistency. I think it's great for him that

(10:47):
he's now having these massive moments that you simply cannot
forget because I think sometimes with players whose hallmark is consistency.
Adrian Belfray comes to mind, we sometimes we recognize, of course, yeah,
hall of Famer without a doubt, but I don't know
that we really do a good job of celebrating that

(11:07):
consistency in the way that we should. I think as
sports media members, we tend to react to the massive
moments or often the controversies, and we kind of do
a poor job of celebrating people who are consistent and
great year after year the way that Freddie is. And
now to see him have the big moments in addition
to what he's done so well for so long, like

(11:30):
I'm happy for him because he's now going to have
these moments where, hopefully years from now we're still doing
the Road to Cooper's Down podcast and I can sit
down with Freddie and we can have a conversation about
what October of twenty twenty four was like for him.
Because he's a great man, one of the classiest people
in the game. His family story is incredible. Obviously, his

(11:53):
son was very seriously ill this year. For him to
come back and have moments like this, I think a
lot of people in baseball are very very happy for
a classy man in Freddie three.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
All right, John Paul, so in close it. We're going
to talk to you tomorrow night after game five. What's
going to be our topic of conversation the Yankees sending
it to uh, sending it to another game, or we'll
be talking about the Dodgers World Series champions.

Speaker 5 (12:17):
I think we're going to see a Game six to
Dodgers Stadium because Garrett Cole h much in the same
way that Anthony Volby grew up as a Yankee fan,
want to have a moment like yet today he had it,
and now it's the Cole's turn. And I think too,
I'm impressed that the Yankees after this game have been
talking in very focused and somewhat sober tones here. They're like, hey,

(12:40):
we were we were supposed to win a game today.
We did, but our job, like, we didn't come here
to win a game in the World Series. We came
here to witness thing. And I think that there's a
real focus behind that to say, if you if you
can find a way to win game five, just win
game five, and then everybody gets on a plane and
flies back across the country. And who knows, right, what

(13:00):
would happen in Game six, So I think that's where
that's certainly where my head is, and I'm expecting that
we're going to have a conversation tomorrow night. That's gonna
set up what's gonna be a memorable Game six at
Dodger Stadium.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
He's on Twitter at John Morosi, that is at John Morosi.
Check him out on MLB Network. John Paul is always buddy,
appreciate it. We'll talk to you tomorrow night after the game.

Speaker 5 (13:22):
As they say, as the Great Jack Buck said, we'll
see you tomorrow night. And I'm excited about that here
as the World Series continues.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
I'd see you, buddy. Have fun.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Look, we'll get up because there is a sunny side
for the We talked about the sunny side for the
Yankees last night. There is a sunny side for the
Yankees for the rest of the series coming off of
what we saw tonight. We'll have that coming up next
as well, as I promised you. Aaron Rodgers says there's
a drink he has found, the Fountain of Youth, and it's.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
A drink that any of us can have.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
Well, I mean, we all feel ten feet tall and
bulletproof after a couple of libations.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
But this is this is not alcoholic. This is this
is a drink anybody can have. Okay, Mountain of Youth.
That's next right here, Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
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Speaker 3 (14:18):
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Speaker 1 (14:19):
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon Live from the
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of Youth. Didn't know this Fountain of Youth? Mike Harmon,
Fountain of Youth, The Fountain of Youth? Was it found
in which witch continent was found? Actually in New Jersey?

Speaker 4 (14:39):
If you know this or not, Fountain of Well, there's
a lot of stuff burying in New Jersey.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Everything is legal in New Jersey. This is true.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
But before we get to that, Yankees win tonight. They
beat the Dodgers. They forced Game five. Last night we
talked about what the sunny side and silver lining scenario
is for the Yankees going into Game four, and it's
everything we said was gonna happen. Yes, the Yankees are

(15:06):
down threes that Dodgers in control of the series. But
you're looking at Game four, in which the Dodgers are
gonna throw a bullpen game, and we knew it was
gonna be there lesser relievers. Wasn't gonna be a bullpen
game where it's trying in and then it's no, no, no,
it was gonna be. Here's the guys that barely get outside,
don't get to see the sun at all, and we
let them come out through this a little bit during

(15:27):
the day and then they gotta go back inside. Uh,
you knew the case, right, knew that was going to
be the case.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
There's only one blade.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
It was going to be was going to be just
picturing Wesley Snipes pitching for the Yankees. It was going
to be a game where the Yankee hitting, if it
was ever gonna hit, they were gonna hit in this game.
And if they win this game, suddenly the Yankees, who
have absolutely zero confidence Aaron Judge has zero confidence, they

(15:58):
will feel they will feel much better unlike it.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
Hey we got one win. We felt like, hey.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
We stood up and we didn't go gentle into that
good night, and then they'd be going into Game five
with their best pitcher going, which will be an advantage
for them. And it's Jack Flaherty on shorter rest second
time in a series. We saw what happened to Jack
Flaherty when he was pitching that way with against the Mets.
His fastball was down three or four miles an hour,

(16:25):
and then Mets knocked him around the park and they
forced Game six. This is the sunny side for the
Yankees that, hey, we already saw the first part happen.
Told you it's gonna be the bad Dodger relievers. Yankees
take advantage of it. Even Aaron Judge got a hit.
The Yankee fans in the stands are going nuts. They
were emboldened with the aftermath of the crazy ass play
with Mookie Betts when two fans got thrown out for

(16:47):
stealing the ball out of his glove after a pop fly.
You go into this tomorrow and Garrett Cole is Garrett Cole. Suddenly, Hey,
we got nothing to lose. We're sending this thing back
to la for Game six. And suddenly for the Dodge
who still had the advantage because it's two games to
win one and you have your best pitcher going in Yamamoto.
But suddenly all of the Yankees are hitting, and the

(17:08):
Yankees are back and they have life. So we talked
about the silver lining for the Yankees going into this game,
the fact that Dodgers decided, we're gonna throw out a
bullpen game for you, and if you're ever gonna wait,
it's almost like we're handing this game to you. We're
okay with losing because we want to set up our
pitching for the rest of the series. But now the
Yankees have life, and now they feel good going into tomorrow,

(17:28):
and they have their number one pitcher on the hill,
and it's gonna be a big advantage for them because, yes,
as much as Jack Flaherty's a good pitcher, he's a
tough guy, he's got he's got a lot of mocks.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
He I love him. Garrett Cole is a much better pitch.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
You've got the word moxians and he's pitching at Yankee
Stadium and I can and see this happen, and all
of a sudden, the series going back to LA for
Game six, there's your told you.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
About the sunny side. For the Yankees.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
From Game three to Game four, there's your sunny side.
Game four to Game five.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
Keep on the sunny side, always on the sunny side.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
What I thought was right.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
As much as we've debated the Dodgers side of things
and the strategy of the rotation, the bullpen game, the
sequencing thereof, I saw a number of thought pieces salty
that Aaron Boone and the Yankees brass didn't go with
Garrett Cole today with the series at three to zero

(18:21):
as opposed to you know, you have a guy that
won fifteen games, pitched to a three five ERA and
had a high strikeout rate at your disposal and heel.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Now he gives up the home run to Freddie Freeman
and we roll from there.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
But that's it. That was the mistake he made and
then you move on from that mistake. I just thought
it was It was interesting because like, no, he has
to go on short red, No, he doesn't, like you
have a certain more than serviceable starter. But for the
Yankee I mean, it's one game, it's an outlier. You know,
as we talked with John Paul Morosi, you had the
big hit from Volpi went and got it. Location for

(18:58):
Hudson was awful, and that was the thing, like he
couldn't locate at all, you know, the local telling Radio
Am five to seventy LA Sports. The Dodgers side of it,
like they called it out for three pitches into his appearance,
like he's off, Yeah, Like he's not finding the strike zone.
And now you've got the Yankees waiting on pitches like

(19:18):
we saw in yesterday's game with Mookie Betts it was
a nine pitch at bat for his RBI single.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Didn't hit it well, but had enough of it to
get you to the RBI.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
The Yankees did more of that today, saying all right, relievers,
you're coming to us. And for Hudson that was an
absolute disaster which led to the vultpy hole run. How
much that carries over don't know, but you know it's
a it's a funny thing. Confidence and day to day
and for Flaherty you get to see him again. And

(19:49):
the history short term has not been kind in that regard.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
The Yankees are feeling good, Jason, You allow you the
Yankees are feeling good. What do you got Frostberg question
for you?

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Sure?

Speaker 3 (19:59):
In World Series? His history teams that three?

Speaker 6 (20:03):
Yeah, how many times do you think the opponent that
was down came back to force a game six?

Speaker 3 (20:12):
In a game.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
They've won them all of all. They won them all. Yeah,
they won them all. Let me ask you this, six
or seven? Oh, force a game six or no? No,
I don't think force a game seven, but they've forced
game six. I believe it happened. Six nine sweeps all together. Okay,
now let me now, let me ask you this. In
two thousand and four, when the Yankees were up three

(20:34):
games to none and the Red Sox won game four,
do you think you think the problem? Hey, no one's
ever come back from three games down to win before.
No one's ever come back from that before. Do you
want to get beat up or saying that? I'm just saying, man, wait, wait, wait?
Who was the pregame entertainment? Just because I mean fat joke?

Speaker 3 (20:52):
I started to GoFundMe to get him to do the
game tomorrow night.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Oh okay, very good, very good because they needed it
because Paul O'Neil throughout the first Paul Tonight and it
was over A. J.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
Burnett's head and he had to do it again. Come on, No,
no Yankee fan under fifty knows who the hell Paul
O'Neal is.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
They watched Seinfeld, they know Paul O'Neil. He was in
sign well watching Snfeld. Seinfeld's on.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
I think it's on Nickelodeon. Now, I think it's on.
It's on TV nicked Night. Yeah, I think it's on. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
I think you get super sloppy double there and then
it's signed yeah, and then Benson.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
I think that Chandler you, yeah, what what Chandel are
you watching? Geez Smith? Wow, I don't think you can
say that on it.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Pam and I went into a restaurant to eat this
past week that that's near where we live, and we
go in for lunch and of course, you know the
lunch in a diner, because we've heard about the couple
of sandwiches there from one of our neighbors. Oh, it's
really okay. So we go in and we go in.
Of course the clientel is older and they're playing TV
Land and it's reruns of different Strokes. I think Benson

(21:53):
was on and a couple of times and I and
I said, this, this feels so depressing.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
There the going I watched that in Law and Order
with me on this is like the last diner in
the world.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
You go to fifties cafe. No, this was no fifties cafe.
I would get like it's all decorated and stuff. No,
fifties cafe is great, get the Great Shakes there. No,
this is just a diner that has some older clientele
in there, and they're playing all these sitcoms from the
mid seventies.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
And when they went were the only one in there.
When they went to Benson. I'm like, oh wow, it's Benson.
Pretty good watching Benson. Benson. Yeah, criminally under shows like.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
Ben and soap they had. I remember, all these questions
will be answered.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
I have.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
I have this vivid memory of just when I when
I see her has on, I have what what's my memory?
I have memories of walking downstairs clean because I just
took my shower for the night, and I get to
watch Benson or this or whatever it is before I
go to bed. I can watch one, I can watch
different strokes, I can watch one day at a time whatever.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
I could watch one show and I'm all clean. I'm
in my underwear because I'm ready to go to.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Bed in my pajamas, and I read no, No, that's
my memory. When I think you have to go to
the whites, well that's what well, come on, I was seven,
of course, I was wearing tidy whities.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
What am I gonna do?

Speaker 4 (23:16):
No, No, I want the Tommy John under his baby,
I'm Batman under.

Speaker 6 (23:22):
Mike also watches Benson before he goes to Ben. I
do I will look King of Queens Olivia Benson? Yeah, no,
I asked.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Certainly the King of Queens in the early two thousands,
at least Benson late seventies.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
That's okay, okay. Rights fees are a little lower, I bet,
I'm sure, which probably helps a little bit get Benson. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
But you know, anytime you can get Leah Remeni at
her best, you know, there's no question about just making sure.

Speaker 5 (23:47):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
By the way, Ashanti sang the national anthem, okay, all right?

Speaker 3 (23:53):
And then Nelly was there okay.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
Her husband right?

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Sorry? Was he wearing his band aid? Maybe singing all
in my still has that bruise on his face. They'll
bring Fat Joe back tomorrow night. There'll be a fat
He's coming back. No, but I'm trying to think of
who actually performed though. Wasn't there another performer after last night?
You can't have another perform Dave Cayman's performance. Dave Cayman
had after.

Speaker 6 (24:15):
Last night the fact that they had to roll out
a guy to pump up a crowd for a World
Series game that Yankee Stadium Mountain hosted in fifteen years
is bleeping?

Speaker 2 (24:25):
What are the words?

Speaker 1 (24:26):
I'm all the way up. I'm telling you, I thought
Billy Joel was going to do it tonight. That's he
could have had Billy jo and had to beat him in.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
And we're living here in Yankee State.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
They should have busted out. Hey, Paul Simon, you up
for one song, me and Julio down by the school
yard where we can't get Freddy Freeman out, Dun dun, dunde,
you can just come out and sung the sounds of silence.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
How do you not get a biggie hologram?

Speaker 5 (24:53):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (24:54):
Maybabe. Maybe that's they're waiting for anyway.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Maybe it's gonna be Billy Joel and a Biggie hologram
tomorrow night. Yeah, I get ready, really ready. Now, Hey,
we talked about sitcoms of the seventies. Now let's talk
about the Fountain of Youth, because Aaron Rodgers apparently has
discovered the Fountain of Youth.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
He talked about it today.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
Was it was it anything to do with Wilfrid Brimley
on the Wilfrid Brimley line.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
He has discovered a drink that was brought to him
by Jets punter Thomas Morstead, and he says, I swear
by it. Yeah, I've been drinking it for a while
and continuing this week getting ready for Thursday night's game
against the Texans.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Okay, what is it.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
It's not gonna heal his hamstring and everything else he's
got going on.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
It's elixir. It is the fountain of youth. He's had
a little fountain of youth. Okay. It is water and
cayenne pepper.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Kai yenne pepper, kyenne pepper on young garlic. No, uh no,
cayenne pepper and water. And according to medical journals, cayenne
pepper and water can have some health benefits, including pain relief.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Okay, maybe this up can get cayenne pepper anywhere, right
a couple of.

Speaker 6 (26:02):
I'm pretty sure it doesn't cure dead arm, though water
is free. Maybe it does.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
You never know.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Maybe he's gonna come out Thursday night throwing the ball
seventy five yards on a dime and he'll still lose.
Everybody will be drinking cayenne pepper water.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
No, no, no, he's got to complete a pass for twelve
to fifteen yards first, which sets.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
Up the opportunity to throw the hand. No, no, no, here's
what it is.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
He's got to look bad and and throw one at
Garrett Wilson's feet, come off the field, drink the cayenne
pepper water, then go back on and he hits Garrett
Wilson for a seventy.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
Things better metabolic health, steady weight, and improve protection against disease.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
So he's been immunized exactly. That's what it is.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
I don't need to get any shot flu shot, No, no, no,
cayene pepper and water kay pepper.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
War's always what is it? Cap sasan?

Speaker 2 (26:48):
That is that?

Speaker 3 (26:49):
How you pronounced that? It's cap sasan without representation?

Speaker 7 (26:52):
No?

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Nice, there you go. Yeah, so that's what it is.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
And he talked about needing because here here's a little
bit more in yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
Is he was upset.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
One of the Patriots after the game was over, talked
about how old Rogers looked. Boy, he wasn't the same guy.
Oh he's a Hall of famer, but it's hard seeing
him go out like that. And Rogers talked about that
today about how you know, I get it, but I
didn't really have to scramble a lot. I was in
the pocket most of the game. I don't know about it,
but you tell he bristled because he talked a lot

(27:20):
about being old. Maybe Kyenne Pepper and water stops him
from agent. We'll see on Thursday night. But I will
tell you this to take to take a conversation, a
crazy ass conversation about the Jets and everything this week
about how they're awful and the Jets and solid all
this is that the one thing football wise to look
at for the Jets two things.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
One is as bad as they've been.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
If Greg Zerline makes a couple of kicks and is
not the worst kicker in the NFL, instead of two
and six, they're probably four and three. Four and three
is four and four and everything is okay. They would
have beat the Bills, they would have beat the Broncos.
They might have beaten the Vikings. It might have beat
the Patriots. Last week's say they're four and four and
everything is still there. But a bigger deal is this

(28:04):
is that you talk about being old, and that's kind
of what's happened to the Jets all at once. It's
great to bring in all these traveling all stars and
it's awesome. But is Rogers quite.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
What he was? No, he's not. He's close to it,
but not quite what he was. Why because he's forty.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
And then you look at the Jets defense, which suddenly
is not is not good anymore. The defensive line is old,
linebackers are old, the safeties are old. And what's happening.
The Jets are allowing teams to run on them, They're
allowing teams to throw on them more, and it's become
all of a sudden, it's boy, the Jets defense went
from We're terrific to what's happened to us? It's not

(28:42):
so much there slow offensively because you know, Devontadam is
still one of the top receivers in the NFL, Wilson
is young, Breiste Hall and Braylan Allen, it's not so
much about that, but it's about Aaron Rodgers not being
the same. And defensively they're old. And this is why
you see teams like the Patriots who were younger being
able to make these big plays at the end the games.
They're fresher, they're able to make whether it's it's Jacoby

(29:03):
Brissett scrambling or hitting a couple of young receivers who
are open. This is what happens. You get old all
of a sudden. And the Jets defense the last few
weeks we've talked about them not being able to stop
the run. They look old and and like I said,
when you get old, you get old right away. It's
not like all this last, all the courts in the
last six seven. No, you have been old basically since

(29:23):
week three. You got old right away.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
Well that's the thing, though, is watching this defensive side
like give up a lot of run rushing yards and
lanes that laying lane integrity is bad. Bill Belichick pointed
out with Reddick, and Reddick got all mad about It's
like go back and watch.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Like Belichick may hate the Jets, he may.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
Have animus and anger towards Woody Johnson going back all
those years. That's all finny good. But when he's talking
about the game and he's singling out players, he's not
doing it because he decided he hated you and he's
gonna make an example out of you. If you're you're
doing something in a defensive scheme that's calling into question
the integrity of what the call is and creating opportunities

(30:05):
for the opponent. That's his job right now, whether you
like it or not, he's trying to tell you how
he understands football and get back in. And for the
Patriots coming off a week where they were called soft
to come out and play like they did, I'll give
him credit. We'll see if the Bears coaching staff can
do that after every player did their local radio interviews

(30:26):
this week and called them out for their ineptitude. But
for your guys, yeah, defensively, they've got to figure out
a way. For Breese Hall and for Braylen Allen. They're
gonna have to control things to keep that defense off
the field because guess what, you only get older unless
you get the fountain of youth. And everybody starts drinking
kai Ye the.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Jets win Thursday night, I'll drink kay and pepper water
every deck get out. I'll drink it every day because
obviously it will have worked time out to find out
what's trending in the wide world of sports from Kevin
wired k dow what he got for us.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
Yeah, did you believe that the White Sox would make
news in October? Because they actually just had to lose
again that actually did not well. It depends on how
you feel about Will Venable as your manager, Okay, because
that is the new story coming through just a maybe
fifteen to twenty minutes ago, Will Venables being hired by
the Chicago White Sox to be their new manager as

(31:17):
a Grady size more the interim guy no longer being
considered going forward.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Is this your way to.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
Deflect since you're all Dodger had to go. I didn't
try to go pile on me because you lost. Is
that all this is? I think it's a pretty pathetic
effort to lead with the White Sox to do I
didn want. I didn't want to lead with the Dodgers
taking an l which I mean you did.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
Seem pretty excited about the Yankees wedding tonight. I'm not
gonna lie. Oh, I'm offended.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
He's wearing a Clayton Kershaw jersey and a Dodger hat tonight,
and he looks like Max Munsey.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
With the mustache and bear. I put out a picture
on Twitter.

Speaker 6 (31:53):
He looks like he was a real Dodger fan. He
would have said the Dodgers won and wouldn't play the
Yankee h Well.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
I can't. I can't just make things up now.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
I would love to say that, trust me, I'm just
I care about accuracy more so than my own chosen
narrative here. So, but yes, the Dodgers did lose eleven
to four in Game four of the World Series two
the New York I Thanks are offense coming alive as
Anthony vulpay a grand slam to give the Yankees their
first lead in the World Series since the tenth inning

(32:26):
of Game number one. Labor tours would add on to
it as the Yankees winning it by seven of Furse.
A fifth game tomorrow evening in New York and Freddie Freeman,
though for the Dodgers, went deep again as he had
a two run home run in the first, hitting his
fourth straight game in this series with my home run.
Six straight World Series games with the home run, including

(32:48):
his time with the Braves in twenty twenty one.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
That is a new all time record.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
And in the NBA, looks like everything has just about
gone final. Yepes we finish it off in at San
Francisco as the Warriors come from behind to beat the
New Orleans Pelicans one twenty four to one oh six
in a Western Conference Finals rematch. It was the Mavericks
beating the Timberwolves one twenty one to fourteen, sacrament over
Utah one thirteen ninety six, and the Nuggets and Brooklyn

(33:16):
Nets go to overtime where Denver wins at one forty four,
one thirty nine.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
Back to you guys, Thank you k Dub.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Coming up next, we will get into what the big
highlight of this game. Game four of the World Series
is going to be all about, and it's about a
foul ball that wasn't caught or was it. That's next
Jason and Mike Fox.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best friend
Mike Harmon Livethtirack dot Com Studios, where yes, we had
the drama of the Yankees winning Game four of the
World Series. We'll have more in the game itself coming
up in about ten minutes. But the play that has
everybody talking that's gone viral the fly ball that Mookie
Betts tried to catch in the first inning down the

(34:05):
right field line puts his glove into the stands, he
catches the ball, except Mike Harmon's brothers who were at
the game.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
Whoa, whoa, whoa whoa.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
One of them reached in open Mookie Betts's glove to
pull it out, while the other one held Mookie Betts's
arm to keep it in place so the guy could
pull the ball out of his glove.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
Now, if it was my brothers, they would not be
wearing hats with no logos.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
They would have represented very well. Here's how that sounded
on Big Fox.

Speaker 7 (34:39):
Why the right by Torres Bets in the corner does
he have room fights with the fan and they're gonna
say that it's an out and fan interference? So an
out one gone in this first it's the second time
that Labor Towards has hit a ball that.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Has ended up been fan interference in this series.

Speaker 7 (35:01):
He had the home run turned into a double back
at Dodger Stadium and yeah, Bet says that ball in
his globe and his fan literally tries to take his
glove off.

Speaker 6 (35:11):
Can we stop with the fan stuff? Those aren't fans,
Those are criminals that belong in Ja.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
That is right.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
They were taken out of the albums And.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
I know there was people trying to track them on
social media? Have they been booked, have they been arrested?
And look, I'm gonna be honest about this, is that
I don't I'm not a big fan of how cavalier
they were about that on the broadcast, because that's dangerous
stuff and I don't want to be the guy saying, oh,
I'm nervous about But the line has been blurred the

(35:41):
last few years between fan and player, where fans are
now more in bolden than ever before to think I
can do what I want to at a game. Part
of it is is is the effect of social media
that hey, I can have an interaction with an athlete
whenever I want to, whether they want to have an
interaction with me or not, I can find them on
social media, I can quote tweet, I can respond to them,

(36:02):
and people think that hey, I have this kind of
freedom now, or I can do whatever I want to
and I can go to a game and if I
want to try to take the ball out of a
guy's glove, I could do that. It's a shocking bit
of video, but I am not surprised because that's the
way we're trending, that's the way behavior at games are
trending at NBA games, major League Baseball games. I mean, really,

(36:25):
to see the guy grab Mookie Betts's glove to pull
the ball out of it, Like that's not a rational fought.
You know you're gonna get found out, you know, and
then the dope grabs his arm.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Yeah, I mean, look, we look.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
I'll go back to Milwaukee in Game three when the
Mets played the Brewers. Pete Alonzo drops a fly ball
in the bottom of the eighth inning of Game three
and a fan pushes out on the net all the
way to him, uh, to try to get him to
drop the ball, Like, I can't believe they didn't call
fan interference on that. But that got lost in the
drama of Alonzo hitting the home run in the next
inning and winning. But we've now seen this where hey,

(36:57):
I am ready to get involved with the play and somehow,
and I know this is going to be met with
a bit of a h You're kind of an alarmist,
But I'm telling you, at some point something's gonna happen
and a.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Player is going to get hurt, and it's going to
be how did we not fix this?

Speaker 1 (37:13):
Because I'll tell you, pulling the ball out of the
the Mookie Bets's glove is one thing. But the guy
grabbing his wrist and holding it so the guy can
pull his glove out. Mookie Bets could have sprained his wrist.
He could have got hurt. And then the fans when
they come say no, we're just going for the ball
like that's dangerous. Man, I'm sorry, but that's dangerous.

Speaker 4 (37:31):
His arms fully extended. The joint only does so much
right you pull it in the wrong direction. You know,
we're watching the management of Shoeo Tani's injury and talking
a lot about shoulders and what happens when they fall
out of you know, get dislocated and slip out and
slip back in and what happens long term related to that.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
Here you've got a guy.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
Fully extending his arm and he's getting dragged up. Man,
he's not a tall man. What is he fighting? And
a half five nine and whatever they listen to them.
He's getting literally lifted by these clowns as they try
to take the ball out of his glove. And so, yeah,
here's the other thing. Rote twenty in that section. Seats
for tomorrow are twelve hundred bucks. So what do you

(38:15):
think they paid for front row seats. I don't think
you care to get I don't know. I am not
saying that I'm they gonna be heroes. I pulled the
ball to Mookie Betts's glove, which again is an issue
as well. But again there's a there's enough dope. That's
the problem is that you find the uh, well, now
you got a criminal element that's we're at play here
and and they'll be heroes and they'll they'll drink for

(38:36):
free because of their jackass buddies. You saw people high
five of them and patting them on the shoulders as
they were being taken through the crowd.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
They should be prosecuted. I mean this.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
I mean it's if we're just gonna wait until something happens, right,
there's gotta be a better webs.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
Time for the full on plexiglass. We're going full just
like Ahl. That's it, banging on.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
The glass, exit out bout a Fresca exit swollen down.
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmen.
Coming up next, something from Game four the World Series.
I saw it, I saw it unfold and I still
can't believe it happened.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
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