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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:31):
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best friend? Bat Is he really your best friend?

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Well?

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Tonight, absolutely is he my best friend? Because to celebrate
night one of the combine, we joked around last couple
nights going We're gonna have shrimp and that big Saint
Elmo's horse. Radish cocktail sauce that's famous in Indianapolis for
the last, you know, thirty years with the combine. He goes, yeah, sure,

(01:18):
I said, okay, and I thought that'd be fine. Now
I'll figure something out. Who knows, but I didn't talk
to you about it today and everything else, so I said, ah,
you know, well, we'll figure out.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
What are you gonna do.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
We'll go to a Poyo Loco and get dinner. First
thing he does, walks in and he says, what's up blank?
I said, hey, what's up, blank? Because that's how we
treat you.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
We greet each other. And he goes, don't say I'm
a liar. You can't call me a liar.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
And in two hands, it's like it's like the video
of in Monopoly when the guy in the top hat
is holding the two bags of money. Harman's got one
hand with a bag of shrimp and the other hand
with the sauce. That's the greatest cocktail sauce in the world,
and we're eating it right now to celebrate my night
in one of the combine. Did you walk out of
the market like you were, Jamis Winston.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
Oh, I did very quickly with my eyes go shifting
left to right, waiting to be tackled. Now you know
I was evading an open field linebacker trying to chase me.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
All right, now, I'm gonna tell you the true. Harmon's
not gonna like this, but I'm gonna tell you how
we got how we got this this sauce. So so
a few months ago, I was like, man, I wish
I could get that sauce. I don't know if you
can order it, and Harmon says, oh, yeah, yah, no,
I can get it off of Amazon. I said, okay, great,
will you get me a bottle? He goes, yeah, sure,
So he orders, And how did you think you were ordering?

(02:30):
I thought I thought it was only getting like four
because I got one for ty Shirt, I got one
for Justin and one free. He thought he was ordering
four bottles of the of the the Saint Almost sauce. Right,
four bottles? How many bottles came eight? So he's had
all these bottles of horse Ride. I mean I could
drink this horse Rader sauce. It's so good.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
It is my go to trip.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
Like if I want something and I don't feel like cooking,
every market will have And if you're not feeling good jumbo.
This really will open up your question. I know Moncey
was talking to me earlier that she wasn't feeling well.
Let her chug some of that some of that horse
Rader sauce.

Speaker 5 (03:08):
I'm I literally have spicy vegan wings right now. So
I'm already no no, no, no, no, no no, just chug chug,
telling you chug chug, chug, chug, chug chug chuck lareen.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
So we're celebrating a night one of the combine tonight
with this way.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yeah, day for sauce. It is a big day for
sauce and sauce. Sauce and spice. Now, I mean Travis Kelcey, Yes,
it's Grady's coming back down. Yeah, yes, dating Taylor Swift. Yeah,
that's great. Sauce Gardener is dating ice Spice. It's sauce
and spice. Because they were spotted at a New Jersey
mall today.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
Do you think it was some of Taylors Taylor Swift's
influence though, because she's friends with.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Must have told her you're done, you guys are done.
You had your time with their drop their own bank
accounts and all these things.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
So quote the Great vanilla. I dropped a zero and
get with the hero. I mean it writes it. I
mean you're gonna do the Ninja wrap next. No, no,
because there's really no great nickname for Travis Kelsey and
Taylor Swips like.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Okay, but you got sauce and spice, right, it's sauce
and spice.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Sauce and spice, like, I bet you there's gonna be
some sort of local East Coast restaurant chain with a
sauce and spice special head. We got sauce and spice,
and now they'll both be in the commercial. Sauce and spice,
spicy chicken. Here's some sauce, right, write that down. Let's
write that down. I'll go right tomorrow in my workshop,
man in my kitchen, let's go. So that means he's

(04:37):
gonna stay with the Jets. Well, he's not the one
you're worried about. He's got Wilson. I've already said goodbye
to Caro will So.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
Now he says he's amenable to of course, he is
shy and tag with it.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Whoever brings a dump truck full of money to his house.
He said, yeah, I'd love to stay. Sure it doesn't matter.
How do you think it would he did you not
read the survey? If he backs up enough, can.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Are they paying me yet?

Speaker 4 (05:01):
Then?

Speaker 3 (05:01):
I love it? Are they not paying me? Then I
don't throw me the ball. It doesn't matter who's throwing
me the ball.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
He doesn't care. No, Sauce and spice man, sauce and
s mites, how it goes? And shaking bits and who
shaking bake? I sauce and spice and new shaking bake again. Yeah,
back to yeah, buddy, our youths and chicken shaking bake
shaking bake, shaking bake. I'll shake it some shaking bake back.
Don't you have to win?

Speaker 2 (05:26):
No?

Speaker 3 (05:26):
I don't think so. I don't.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
I think winning his secondary the winner. Well, I mean
if ice spice is winning, then sauce garden.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
Doesn't have the whales are good? Then he just needs it.
Doesn't for the ride? I mean I feel still really good. Yeah,
but now we get to individual awards versus team awards,
and what really matters.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
I worry about this though, because Frost brings up the
point if the Jets continue to suck, like, are they
still going to date?

Speaker 3 (05:46):
They're going to be okay? When the Jets, is what
she's saying. I don't think she's flying blood. She's been
hanging out with Taylor Swift and Winners.

Speaker 6 (05:54):
She's getting to the end.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
He understands what's going on in the entire art.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
He's getting to the end of his rookie contract act.
If they don't win this year, it's gonna be you know,
I love you, but I can't see you on that
field anymore. All Right, all right, free agents called I'll go,
I'll go splay. All right, great, just let you know,
you know Kansas City. I'm just letting an experience what
their luxury boxes are like.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
I'm just telling you so. I mean, she's seen the
other side. I don't. I don't hook up with losers.
But now you're going from it a relation, I mean
what we do?

Speaker 7 (06:27):
No?

Speaker 3 (06:27):
What was that? Was Lauren Holly's color character from any
given Sunday.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
Right when when Dennis Quay got benched. I I'm not
married to the backup quarterback. This was a commercial you
used to do by yourself? What Jamie Fox starting the
you do it by yourself and all kids run to
Jamie Fox and they're said, Dennis Quayn, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Or with queen bikini, Ali Larda going, Hey, sorry about that,
Paul Walker, Hey Moxing, Yeah, whip queen bikini coming your way.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
All right, it's only surprised Billy Bob didn't wear it.
More were the court they wanted from the town. I mean,
like you got it from John Void.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
But John Voyd hates everybody wanted him uplifting, especially when
he was with that bad Louisiana accent Conda or whatever
the hell that was supposed to be.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah, oh my god, that was terrible. Was the breakda Bag?
That was a worse Well now they were well here's
oh yeah, he was terrible.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
But now they have the the the the genology and
make it look good because that cond of movie was
just awful.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
Cube was fine, Rappaport was fine. Car you were was
in it? Yeah, uh yeah, that's going to be in
the sequel. It's actually takes place in the Starbucks. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
It takes place in the Starbucks Fight Night. We're going
to find an anaconda in Starbucks. We're gonna find some
because we're gonna fight.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
What the amount of that?

Speaker 4 (07:50):
People hate all those guys. It's really very telling. The
last forty yes, individually, it's it's not just the Hey,
I don't like this industry, like those guys obviously had
pissed a lot of people. Yeah, I mean, look the
big story and it was kind of fun to see
inside the NBA open up with it. And this is
a story that sort of broke yesterday, but we got
more details today. NFL insider Jordan Schultz, who has been

(08:13):
on the show many times, Yeah with us, got into
it when the NFL Network used to me on the
Sunday Show got into the NFL Network insider Ian Rappaport
at a Starbucks in Indianapolis yesterday at issue. Was there
reporting over the story that Matthew Stafford was being wooed
by Tom Brady the other day when apparently Matthew Stafford

(08:36):
randomly ran into Tom Brady. Now, Jordan Schultz had the
story that this was a meeting that was going on
and Stafford was being wooed to try to get a
trade or some kind of movement from the Rams to
the to the Raiders, where Ian Rappaport said, no, there's
been no wooing. They they just ran into each other
and there's it's not a big deal. So the two
of them see each other at Starbucks, and then for

(08:57):
a minute or so, they're yelling at each other, and
according to reports, Jordan Schultz said, we need to talk.
Rappa Board said we don't need to talk, and supposedly
Jordan Schultz started cursing at him. He says, I didn't
curse at him. And they started going back and forth
and had to be they had to be separated. And
it's become a thing, like a near fight in a
Starbucks has become a thing.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
It was a scrupp and that's a good one.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
And now images of this is the exact location that
this happened, Like there's a video, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Frostburg sent me, here's where the fight was. Here's the
Starbucks where the fight was.

Speaker 8 (09:33):
But you're legitimately in a convention center with no media,
all on their phones looking for the next you know, Hey,
I'm going to meet up with this coach or this
assistant or this.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
Scout or whatever, and none of them hit record. Yeah nobody, no, nobody.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
I mean look, and especially because if you were talking
about this, this back and forth, I would have to
make Schultz the favorite in this fight simply because well no, no, no,
no home field advantage, that's right. Where was where was
this going on at a Starbucks? Jordan Schultz, dad Howard
Schultz owned Starbucks. I mean, like that's the same game, man,

(10:10):
that's Ian Rabbitbort going in on the road in a
hostile environment and coming out with a draw like that's
pretty good.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
But it becomes a full law and order thing. What
happened to the tape? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
It was only Yeah, it was only a minute. I
can see where maybe there was because usually in fights
you see like this, it's it's after the first the
first burst of whatever happens is usually when the phones
go on. And because this was a minute, and they
either got separated or separate themselves, like we didn't get
any more of this, so and they they didn't go

(10:41):
back at each other.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
No, I'm talking about the security cameras from the Starbucks.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Well, you can't tell me there's not dude. What did
I just say? Who is Who's Who's dad owned? That's
what I'm saying. It's now a law and order. Did
you have those tapes saltered? There? Could have those erased.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
We just got a call from the big Boss, Danny.
Is he coming in the weekend? No, Howard Schultz, he
called here. Yeah, wanted to see if the cameras were
working in staid if they were working, to see if
he could find our way to the camera's not being working.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
Oh, they weren't on, and I'll give you a time
and a half for today. Oh all right, that's awesome,
that's true. Yeah, all of it to say, right, it's
over the Stafford thing, which the NFL quickly comes out, Hey,
there's no tampering here.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
He's allowed to go talk to whoever he was, because
that's that's really at.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
The heart of it, right is yeah, yeah, it almost
like listen, I don't care, and so is the legally
everything is fine.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
We don't give it right, but yet Schultz's report.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
Then Rapaport returned, and then Schultz came back over the
top with, uh, if you're telling me they just happened
to run into each other at this resort, I've got
a bridge to sell.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
You, Like, he went full back on it. So that's
how it escalates there.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
And then obviously everybody's doing a bunch of media, right,
they're hitting Yeah, whatever their normal haunts are, whatever else,
So like wherever they can tell that story, they started
telling the story and it began and became a legend
from there.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
And that's why this thing happened, right because this is
this was just stupid. This was one insider how a
report and the other insider had a different report. What
does it matter. We see differing reports all the time.
But because they're both in the same set, this is
not where Jordan Schultz and Ian Rapport differed on reports.
But Jordan Schultz lives where he lives and Ian Rapport

(12:14):
lives in Los Angeles. And it's one of those things where,
oh man, he said that jerky thing on social media.
After I go pick up my kids and we have dinner,
I'll get back on tonight and we'll have it back.
But when you're in the same location and you're seeing
so many people in the business, it's like high school
where you know, two guys have a disagreement and all
day they got to hear from their friends people. Dude,
you don't let that let him say that to you.

(12:36):
We don't let him say that to you. You let
him say that to you. You're a punk man. I
can't let him punk you like that. I can'd you
let him say that? And when the guy is there
you kind of lose a little bit where I gotta
go confront him. Where do you really need to confront
somebody over? Hey, the meeting was Stafford and Brady. They
didn't just run into each other for something that's more
than that. Oh I don't have that, Well you should

(12:56):
have that. I mean, this was an insane thing to
fight out. This is not Hey, I had the Andrew
Luck retiring story and you stole it from me because
you heard me talking about it on my phone, Like,
this is something that if it wasn't the fact that
they were all that they were all hanging out in
the same area and so many people from the business
and you see people all day.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Yeah, this wouldn't have happened. This is high school. Yeah,
two quick things.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
First, you know, it became about the tampering stuff and
questioning whether you know, Don Yee stepped in, and the
reporting was well, it was just coincidental because you didn't
know the rules of engagement with Stafford of whether he's
fully cleared or if you still have to go back
through the RAMS to get permission to have those conversations, right,
because Brady's been part of tampering before, right, Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Brady and the rules have kind of a casual arms
length relationship.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Yes. The second was we did the report card yesterday.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
The other insider that got blowback our guy Jay Glazer
once again because the Buccaneers ranked twenty seventh. He started
wearing it over all sorts of their own. That's up me.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah, we gotta just keep hashtagging Jay on on Twitter
with hashtag sell it tell the hashtag sell it t.
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(14:26):
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Speaker 4 (14:33):
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(16:10):
of version posted right after we get off the air. Well,
we just watched Giannis and the Bucks dismantle the Nuggets.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Yeah, with a twelve point.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Lead and twenty seconds left to go, Giannis decided I'm
going in for a flying dunk, So put a pin
in that for at some point later on.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
Well, I just always be careful because someone may come
flying across the middle.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
But the performance of the night tonight, and it really
is something to see when you're almost thirty seven years
old and you can still do to in a row,
almost in a row. Third quarter was almost in a row,
and you can do what Steph Curry did tonight, twelve
threes en route to a fifty six point game.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
Curry, guarded by Carter Junior, gets another screen bounce past
the post over the Pojemski post had a layup at game.
It up the Jevski out to Curry, pump big fly
by three ball got it with the buzzer sounding the
shot clock was winding down, his twelve three of the night.
He's got a fifty two point game.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Warriors Radio Network on the call. They go on to
beat the magic fifty six points for Steph overall, and
it's it's it's a case of now and we're in
a different part of sports now because this is much
bigger than Steph Curry having a game like this. You know,
fifty six points is gonna be thirty seven years old,
is that?

Speaker 3 (17:35):
You know?

Speaker 1 (17:35):
For all the talk we have had, and one of
the best things about sports in the last twenty years
has been athletes' attention to nutrition and detailed. I mean
not not if you're the Jets and you get rid
of your autrition person.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
But everybody's attention to Luca nutrition, to detail and working
out because we you know, one thing I've said about
Lebron James in the last couple of weeks is that
you look at how he's playing.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
No one in the history.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Of sports has played as well as he is at
the age of forty, no one. You know, people play
well once in a while, but not at his level.
But when you look at some of the guys the
last ten or fifteen years in sports, Lebron is forty
and he looks like he could do this for at
least another five years.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
I mean, you would yell Brady, but it's a much
different physicality. Steph is thirty seven.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Brady and Aaron Rodgers are both in their mid to
late thirties. When Rodgers is winning MVPs and Brady's winning
another Super Bowl, you are seeing and now you're seeing
guys in their mid to late thirties in Major League
Baseball that are still hitting big, getting big contracts, like
you have seen this big push like in the I
would say the turn of the century, when you got
to the two thousands, we got to the point where, hey,

(18:42):
thirty two to thirty five was still a really good
time for a star athlete like you can still It's
not like when you're thirty. Once you're thirty two, it
was you're kind of going downhill. You take care of yourself. Hey,
the ages of thirty two to thirty five, thirty six
were really great years.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
Now it's like Hey, the ages of hey, okay, he
that goes all the way through it.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Now the ages of thirty five to thirty eight and
forty can be really good. Now still you're trying to
break the forty barrier and move on when you're forty
five years old playing sports.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
But now like in twenty years, we've gone from hey.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
You're out has been in your early thirties to now
it's at forty. For the great athletes that take care
of themselves Luca, that take care of themselves Luca and
want to make sure that they're healthy Luca, and they
forget the other Guka, and they don't what podcast Pee,
I'm just saying, dude, podcast Pe gets it man, He says,
I gotta stop this podcast while we're eighteen games under

(19:34):
five hundred.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
I got to get ready for the bulls right now.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Come on, man, this is a big job. I can't
believe the media is not keeping track of us chasing
the bulls. But that's just really something to see that
now this era and in all sports too. Right, Alexandrovetchkin
is gonna break Wayne Gretzky's record right for most goals
in a career when a couple few years ago, like,
is he really gonna make it Now, He's gonna make
it there, and maybe he makes it by the end
of the season, more than likely the beginning of next

(19:58):
but a couple of hat tricks.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
You never know.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
So you're seeing guys in all sports that are suddenly
doing it. Look justin Verlander, when he was forty, he
was still winning the World Series, And pitchers are getting
to the age of forty and they're still throwing the baseball.
So this is now. It's a great time where the
big stars. You know, it's not like, well, we're waving,
I'm getting ready to wave goodbye to you when you're
thirty two. Now it's like, no, no, we've got time.
You're gonna be forty years old before you really start

(20:22):
seeing hey, maybe now I need to retire.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
Well, and then you still tell them I'm not giving
you a five year deal.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
But all of that, it doesn't mean I'm gonna, Hey,
I love everything you're doing. I'm not gonna have a
long run, but I love what you're doing. It's great,
but I'm not giving you.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
What'll be interesting to watch is how much this inspires further. Right,
because all of these guys came into their respective leagues,
you know, as you still had what you would refer
to as the old heads, the old way of thinking,
where you had some grizzled veterans that were hanging on
and still playing, but you didn't have a.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Lot of the stars. Right, Jordan's kind of a weird one.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
Retires and retires, comes back still scoring twenty at forty,
but obviously efficiency and all of that have gone to hell,
and he's playing for a terrible team and not really
looking to win. But all of that to say is
that we have these guys that we celebrate, And I'm
always wondering as we go forward, how many of these
twenty year runs we get from guys. One, because you're

(21:16):
making money in college now right, you're already walking out
with a giant bag. And Two, the contracts are that
if you get to that second deal, we're talking about
having three hundred million dollars in the bank for a minute,
so your motivation to stay great for twenty years. Like,
it's I question how many of these guys we're going
to get to celebrate like this long term, Like we've

(21:37):
got a nice little rash of him here, But I
wonder if it is a short lived pop in that regard,
regardless of nutrition and all of the advancements we've had
in science, the rules obviously in the NFL that are
keeping quarterbacks on the field much longer, because we spend
a lot of time talking about Rogers and matt Stafford,
even though Stafford at the end of every year, we're

(21:59):
doing the well, here's a chart like they used to
do on the CBS pregame. I think they still might
still they might still do it, but where they put
up the guys. Here's the skeletal system, and then there's
all sorts of arrows and blinking red areas about how
they that's Matthew Stafford at the end of ever ya,
well you know, yeah, rib injuries and yeah, sure, like okay,
so we're gonna be rebuilding him bigger, faster, stronger. But

(22:23):
that's just the thing to appreciate now is that there's
still as much as.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
We made Momoan, we don't have as a league wide the.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
Residuals of those old ages and guys that want to
gut it out and grind. You still have these guys
that we can point on the map, including Curry and whatever,
Lebron James reinvigorated by hanging out with with Luka doncis
if he can hang out underneath the basket and get
those easy buckets.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
You kidding me? Hey, hey, hey, come on, pill guy,
get it up now.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
The other part of this story is obviously Luka Doncic
and the Lakers getting ready to start. They they're gonna
uh opening tip, I believe is four minutes away.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
Four minutes.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
You know, they played tonight, they play tomorrow. They'd play
the Clippers on tomorrow, they played the Clippers Monday, the
Clippers on Tuesday, the Clippers on Thursday. Is that that's
the trade we spend most of the time talking about,
obviously because it's such a big deal. But not a
great night tonight for him on the floor, but because
he had five points to night, one to seven from
the floor. But the Warriors are seven and one since

(23:26):
they traded for Jimmy buckets. And this is why when
this trade happens, we said watch out for this trade
because this was a trade that was an awesome one
for Golden State. And when you saw them extend him
for the next two years, oh fifty million for j
but you saw this is Golden state's philosophy. As we
know this year, it's probably gonna be a little bit

(23:46):
too much to think that, oh, we're gonna go and
we're gonna make a big run in the Western confort. No,
the teams at the top of the West are much
better right. Oklahoma City is a machine. The Nuggets are
getting it going. The Lakers are playing really well. They
have Luca. But this is a trade that was made
because what they need and they know they need one
other star, and they said, let's get the one star

(24:07):
now in Jimmy Butler. And now in the offseason, we'll
make it work for somebody else will make some kind
of trade. We still kept all our young guys that
either can blossom with us over the course of the
next couple of months or they're great trade bait in
the offseason, because there's gonna be teams that want to
move on from highly paid players that maybe we don't
want to see. Joel Embiid, Paul George. There's gonna be

(24:31):
guys out there, and so the Warriors plan is terrific.
That's why we love this trade, and we talked about it.
This is not about this year. Yeah, Jimmy Butler's gonna
help him this year, obviously, because Jimmy Butler's a good player.
When he's motivated, he's terrific. When he's not motivated, you
don't want him around your team. But here he is
Golden State team he wanted to go to the next
couple of years, he'll be fine. But now they are

(24:52):
just they got that one and now they're one more
player away. Because they have always functioned with a big three,
they have found a way to do it.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
Not every team.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Every team feels they need a big three, but not
every team is able to to take that big three
and turn it into something. Just look at the Nets
or any team with Kevin Durant outside of the Warriors.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
But you know, this is a team that, hey, with
a big three. We figured it out.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Before the big three was Steph Clay and Draymond And now, okay,
well Draymond's not that guy anymore, and Clay is on
the on the on the Mavericks. So now it's Steph
and now it's Jimmy Butler, and they'll get that other
player in the offseason, and suddenly the Warriors now have
a window back open to be big time contenders in
the West. It's too much for this year. They're too

(25:33):
old and they need something. They need some sort of
improving in the off season. But this was a two
step plan for them, and the first step has went awesome, right.
They beat Boston, they beat Washington, who hasn't They beat
Houston New Orleans back to back. They lost to the Clippers,
that beat Utah, they beat Portland. You know, they win
again tonight again against Orlando. Everything is going fine for

(25:54):
the Warriors. And because I look, I said Steph had
to leave if they want to win again. And I
still believe that it'd be much easierim to go to
another team. But the Warriors have said, Okay, we're not
gonna let Steff go out here and put up empty
stats the rest of his career, the next couple of
years of his prime, which is still going now at
thirty six. Obviously he's got at least another two years
after this, so they have opened that window. As long

(26:15):
as they get something done in the offseason, they're suddenly
they'll go into next year and it's watch out for
the Warriors.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
They made their way back up to the top of
the West.

Speaker 4 (26:22):
I think one of the big things to punctuate here
also is that you made a bet on a guy
who's thirty five, right, Jimmy Butler. That was a lot
of the rhetoric and talk, not just attitude and what
he's doing. The fight with pat Riley that everybody said, Oh,
he's not gonna win.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
I think he won.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
I think he may have knocked pat Riley out in
this one because he gets his two year, one hundred
and twenty million dollar extension. He goes to a place
where they're ready and hungry to win. And you got
a guy in Steph Curry, there's no questioning you know
what he's all about and for he's brought. How many
guys have come through those doors through the years of
trying to figure out how the right formula. You got

(27:00):
her still calling the shots. You know Meyers left. So
this was a big test for dun Leavy Junior in
the front office to make a big move, a big splash.
Not a lot of heavyweights on the schedule, as as
you read those off a couple of blips where you said,
good game, good game. Okay, Orlando's about a five hundred team,
but on any given night they've gone and hit some

(27:21):
big knockout blows.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
As well. You've got the eleventh best, slash easiest schedule
remaining in the NBA, and this is the night you
were able to take down Orlando Heroics by Curry. The
rest of your squad shot thirty seven percent. I just thought,
because thirty seven is a magic number on the show,
that to bring it back in. But you didn't really
get a lot right. You got a little bit of

(27:43):
help off the bench when you look at the exploits
of Quinton Post, but otherwise subpar shooting all around.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
But zimsk normally better. Moody only took five shots, Butler
you mentioned one of seven. Draymond had twelve and ten,
so doing the dirty work there. So it rounds into shape.
You take advantage of the schedule and on any given night,
when you've got a guy that can put up fifty,
you've got a puncher's chance. In this league, we would

(28:13):
talk about it all the time. It becomes a bunch
of one game series as you roll it out for the.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Warriors exit out about a Fresca exit swalling down the
Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmon lot
from the Tireck dot Com studios. So just understand that
the Warriors, this plan is coming. Time to find out
what's trending in the wide world of sports from someone
who's been called the Steph Curry of Fox Sports Radio.
Every night she puts on a show and she chews

(28:40):
her mouthpiece walking up and down the floor, sometimes in
between updown.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
It's Monty Belanos.

Speaker 6 (28:46):
You know. When I watch him do that, I'm like,
how does he do that?

Speaker 2 (28:49):
It has to be crooked right.

Speaker 7 (28:50):
In order for him to be able to take it
out without touching it. He takes it out with this
tongue and holds it. I feel like it has to
be in some way crooked because of it. It's perfectly
How can you just take it out and keep it
on one side?

Speaker 1 (29:03):
No, No, I think if you're Steph, you have someone
that actually that's their job.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
What do you do?

Speaker 1 (29:07):
I create custom mouthpieces for Steph Curry so he's able
to take it out and chew on it easy, easier.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
You're right, it's part of a million dollars.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Because I remember in football, like Mike and I played, like,
they gave you a mouthpiece that was just this hard
plastic thing that would cut your gums, boil it.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
It was so it was so bad.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
They were so cheap, and it was I was like,
this is not going to stop me from getting a concussion,
but but this is terrible. I mean it was so shocking.
It would it would cut your gums. You would have
to boil it, bite down on it. I remember boiling
it and iced tea going of its Look at the
iced tea flavor when I played. Now that flavor's gone
in like eight seconds.

Speaker 6 (29:42):
So yes, we're not using the same type of no mouth.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Sharing a mouthpiece mouthpiece. What I'm saying is mouthpieces have
come a long way.

Speaker 7 (29:51):
They've come a long way, and he probably does have
making special ones.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Like iced tea.

Speaker 4 (29:59):
No like horse riders saying almost sauce delicious, clear's the sinuses.

Speaker 7 (30:06):
Well, Curry with his mouthpiece, retainer, whatever it is.

Speaker 6 (30:10):
Fifty six points, twelve threes.

Speaker 7 (30:11):
The Warriors come back to defeat the Magic one twenty
one to one fifteen. As you guys were just dissecting
this game, Paolo Bancaro in the loss had forty one points.

Speaker 6 (30:20):
Then the Nuggets and the Bucks went back and forth.

Speaker 7 (30:23):
But you know Janni Santetokoumpo with the exclamation point at
the end.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
Box Goldy are the white Torrian Prince feature that I
had to kushma to Janis.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Janis at the right little heart of.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
The cylinder with a fig one hand.

Speaker 6 (30:37):
Roshers Bucks Radio Network on the call. He had to
do it.

Speaker 7 (30:40):
Twenty eight points, nineteen rebound, seven assists, and the Bucks
defeated the Nuggets won twenty one to win. Twelve two
games going on still in the NBA and one to come.

Speaker 6 (30:49):
That's September. Whooves in the Lakers which is going to
start any second now.

Speaker 7 (30:52):
But the Suns are on top of the Pelicans ninety
one to eighty eight after three quarters, and with about
two and a half minutes to go, the Mavericks are
beating the Hornets ninety four ninety one Kyrie Irving twenty
three points, eight rebounds so far in the game. In
men's college hoops, Rutgers is currently beating number fifteen Michigan
in this one, and I just lost my screen.

Speaker 6 (31:10):
Give me a second.

Speaker 7 (31:11):
Wait about ten minutes to go in the second half,
Rutgers up seventy four to sixty two on number fifteen Michigan.
Give it up for Doug Gottlieb win Number four woo
Green Bay Phoenix did beat the Detroit mercy times seventy.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
To seventy one.

Speaker 6 (31:25):
So I give it up for Doug on a win
number four on the season on the ice the Jets, Jason,
what's happening to the Jets?

Speaker 3 (31:32):
Jets are great?

Speaker 1 (31:32):
You can't stop the Jets whin they won eleven in
a row, eleve in a row.

Speaker 6 (31:36):
And predators are beating the Jets right now.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
That's all right, that's right. Everyone wants to go into
the Jets to lose once in a while.

Speaker 7 (31:42):
It's okay, that's okay, all right, Well, I guess back
to you guys.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Thank you Bat Jess and as Berman would say, and TJ.
Clearly Gottlieb been the phoenix showing no mercy to Detroit
in this game.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
DJ rose up nicely done.

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legend we lost earlier today, in Gene Hackman, the crazy

(32:23):
circumstances surrounding in the passing.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Of he and his wife and his dog.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
And of course we're gonna spend some time reminiscing about
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That's my phdweightloss dot com. Lakers out to a big
start so far or Luca and Lebron taking turns throwing

(33:16):
football passes the length of the court for a couple
of big hoops. They lead Minnesota right now, eleven to six,
eight and a half to go in the first quarter.
Luca looks a little tired after running up and down
the phone in the first couple of minutes.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
But everything is fine.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
Just lead pass that he threw to Lebron, right, I
joked about it before. Lebron staying back down court. That
was like the having a cornerback trying to play defense
and the ball goes whizzing past his head. Yeah, the
wide receiver. That was how much Mustard was on that
pass from Luca. And as soon as Lebron catches it,
he didn't have to do anything with the ball. Luca

(33:53):
was already doing the fist pump like he was Tiger
Woods on a Sunday.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
That's where I see that play And I got no
ball skills that that defensive back has no ball skills,
no balls.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
It's there, it's there.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Lebron just banked in a three from in front of
the Lakers logo. So yeah, the Lakers offense out to
a big start so far. So we'll have more on
this game coming up in a few minutes. But speaking
of basketball, look and the biggest story in the country today.
It's tragic and it comes with with its own set
of weird circumstances. The death of Gene Hackman today at

(34:26):
the or and not today, but discovered today. The bodies
of he his wife, and one of his dogs at
their residence in New Mexico. And if you've been following
the story during the day, you know that they hadn't
been heard from in a couple of weeks. There was
someone came to check on the house and saw both
of them in the house, lying on the ground. They
found Gene Hackman in the mud room of the house.

(34:47):
His wife was in another room with a bottle of
pills empty near her. One of their pets was was
dead near her. Initially you're thinking, okay, carbon monoxide poisoning,
but as we found out over the course of the day,
they went out and checked and they had gas company
out checking.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
It's a big deal.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
And that they didn't find any evidence of any ghastly
doesn't mean that couldn't have happened. And with the you know,
the door was open, like the door to their house
was open. Clearly the gas could have gotten in and
gotten out. Because they feel that they had been dead
for the last couple of weeks. And you see the
phrase there, some of their hands and feet were already
gett mummified because they've been gone for a couple of

(35:27):
weeks and it's gone from a story that you first
hear it and you go, oh wow, but ninety five,
that's a great run for Gene Hackman. Then you hear
his wife and his dog were died as well, and
now you're thinking, what kind of circumstances are there. They're
treating the deaths as suspicious, but no foul play is suspected,
meaning nobody broke into the house and there was nothing missing,

(35:49):
There was no signs of struggle, There was no outward
signs of physical harm on both Gene Hackman and his wife.
And his wife was a lot younger than him. His
wife was, she was sixty three sixty four years old.
So it's just it's sad that a day, you know, look,
when someone of that age, you know, you're in your nineties,
you're an actor, you're an athlete, and you pass away,

(36:12):
that that day is reserved for talking, taking a look
at what you've done over the course of your career
and what it is. And we'll get into Hoosiers and
and and the filmography of Gene Hackman in a few minutes,
because he may he may wind up being the best actor,
the most talented actor we've seen. When you look at
some of the movies he was in and his performances
in him. But what you saw today was it was, hey,

(36:32):
here's Gene Hackman and we're trying to remember him and
his life is an actor. And then the guys were tired,
been retired for twenty years, but everybody's seen his movies.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Hey that last movie he made is still a class
welcome moport.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
But at the same time, it's oh wow, it's so
sad and it's tragic that this is what happened as well,
and you're we're waiting to find out more information, and
who knows, it's going to be a while before we
get the information on this. But it's just it really,
it's it's it's sad. It's said all around. It's sad
for everybody. You know, the three the you know, both
of them who died, and their dog who died, and

(37:04):
it's just it's just a sad thing. And and and
it's hard because while you're talking about Gene Hackman in
his life, you go, what happened, what happened to It's
a really difficult thing to balance.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
No, that's it.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
Right. Last night, right we finished the show, we get
home and as I'm want to do it takes me
a while to wind down. So I'm, you know, on
social media, and I'm just watching bad television. I forget
what movie I flipped on, But otherwise you're watching reruns
of Bulls games. Nor Norton, No, you said bad television.
I'm sorry, he runs the Bulls game. Yeah, come on,
give me a little more credit from the nineties.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
He was watching reruns a Bears games. Sorry.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
I found my old VHS collection of the eighty five
Bears from back in the day.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
I found the NFL films eighty five Bears season retrospect.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
I do have that, yeah, or Glory.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
Yeah, ninety five Wildcats, The Run to Pasadena, all of
those things, and.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Mike Ditka liked the chauffeur of a large limousine, content
to let the pall to do the driving. McMahon back
to paths, he finds will.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
He got touchdown. But I have interesting people are sending
me pictures.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
Bo's gotten back into trading cards and he's like, I
got this gold, Jim McMahon, I'm like, I'll trade you
for it. But all of it to say, all of
a sudden I get to notice, Oh, June Ackman's passed away. Terrible,
and then like fifteen minutes later it's updated to include
his wife and the dog. So immediately like all right,
as you said, carbon monoxide poisoning, even his daughter saying,

(38:30):
well we think this and at the time, no foul play,
no suspicion, you know, just a horrible accident. And then
as the day goes on, it starts to be more layered,
like we would watch some of these crime investigation shows
of weeks and months and being out of pocket, and
you know, whatever community they associated with, they obviously weren't

(38:52):
seen or heard from for a while, and today we
get this and very late last night we get this
news that comes down and yeah, ninety five an amazing run.

Speaker 7 (39:05):
Right.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
He the last time he'd been seen in public was
like April of last year.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
I won, Yeah videos him and his wife were out
to dinner Hackeman.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
So not a guy that was out in the public spotlight.
And I think I kind of spoke to his career,
which we'll get into the filmography as a whole, but
a guy was you just kind of evaporated into every
man kind of thing, right, not the movie star not
needing to be seen like nope, I'm done, coming New Mexicola. Well,

(39:34):
that's the thing is that you know, we talk about
we talked about athletes like Steph and Lebron who have
been able to hold off father time and they're playing
in their late thirties and early forties and look how
good they are. Hackman was a guy that you know,
he had to retire because he had a hard condition
and his doctor said, you can't.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
Really do it anymore.

Speaker 4 (39:51):
And you know he's like, okay, but his is a
retirement that's stuck. Like he retired from acting after Welcome
to Mooseport. That's two thousand and four, twenty years.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
I mean, he was still seventy four, still active, still
was able to do movies like you someone Welcome to
Moose Party.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
He looked like he was.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
He was still going and and this is usually retirements.
Hey I gotta go back out, I gotta do another movie,
I do something else. I gotta come back and play.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
Yeah, something small. And it was able to stick. He couldn't.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
He didn't want, you know, theater he loved doing and
he's like no, he made that retirement stick for twenty.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
Years, Like we don't guys are thirty three and retire
and go I gotta come back and have one morging,
I gotta do something.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
I'm done.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
He's like, I'm done. I did it and I finished,
and I'm retired. And you know, I envy him those
last twenty years of the life he wanted just hanging. Hey,
I did my thing. I love doing what I did,
and I have the great memories of life and what
and what I did. But having a retirement stick like
that to say I walked away and I'm done. That
really was something.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
And leave the CV he did right, because today you
just go through any number of his films and just
sinking into the roles just so great.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
Well have Maron Gene Hackman coming up next, including something
that's gonna blow you away when I tell you about
Gene and what he thought about Hoosiers.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (41:17):
Five Second Dance Party Pop Quiz Mike Harmon, Can you
get food for the King in this song?

Speaker 4 (41:23):
Of course? No, you can't get food for the King? No, No,
I can?

Speaker 3 (41:28):
You failed? You failed? Eddie Grant couldin can't get for
the King, can't get sing it? I can't. No, you
don't change the lyrics of the song, Sure you do.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
No, you know it's all about my artistic interpretation about
the parody rule. No, we did really wear this album
out back of the day. The sound effects and the
mix was just over the top.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Mike Harmon live from the
Tirec dot Com Studios, Lakers over the Minnesota Timberwolves fifty
one thirty one, Luca on his way to another.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
Triple double for the Lakers. Will have more on this
game coming up in a few minutes.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
Folks asking me if a lot of reaction about your
dog about what about getting him a puppaccino plastic cups
getting stuck to his face.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
And then he pulled the cup obviously, No, he just
has the cup on his face and then I take
it away from it. I don't get let him sit
there and know, okay, good now, breathe No, he's gonna
get every bit of that.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
He's just getting all just like a dog and will.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
Let Animal services decide, just like any dog that gets
all the way down to the bottom whatever he is
eating that's what my dog day.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
He used to joke about child Services being called on
me all the time.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
Now, how does the shoot the field? Pal Well small
and ah.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
You kid, Betty's got a great life. He has no
idea how great he's got it. He has no idea.

Speaker 7 (42:42):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Jason and Mike lif from the tirec dot Com Studios
And you know, we talked earlier in the show Look
the biggest story of the day the death of Gene
Hackman at the age of ninety five. We talked about
the controversy surrounding his death a few minutes ago. But
to get into a different direction on this, because there's
a couple of things that stand out when you know
Gene Hackman, who died today, and he hadn't acted in

(43:05):
twenty years. This is a guy that retired from acting
in two thousand and four. And obviously there's a lot
of talk about Hoosiers. You know, it's it's everybody's got
that in their list of top five favorite sports movies
of all time. And Hackman when he made the movie,
I read it's amazing. He didn't think it was going
to be any good, Like he thought, Hey, you know,

(43:26):
some people in Indian animal, go see it, but you know,
no one's going to see this thing. And then because
he apparently he didn't have a great feel that the
movie was going to be really good, and the filmmaker said, no, no,
it's fine. We got all the stuff, we're gonna do
all great great, So they shot it and then they
brought him back for the screening, and supposedly after he
watched it, he looked at the director said, how did

(43:46):
you guys do that? Like, how did you turn this
into it amazing? He just didn't feel it at the time,
which is weird for a movie. When you think of
why some movies are great and some movies aren't, you
want to think that everybody kind of knows where they're
on the set of a great movie with a great
director or a great actor or actress, and they're giving
a great performance and the story is great, Hey, this
movie's gonna be really good.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
But when you do.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Something creative for a living, you don't always get that right,
you know, you don't always get that feel. You always
get that feeling, and and still you know, here I am.
I've been doing radio now for twenty years, and and
certain takes, we have certain ideas to go out on
social media. I think, oh, this is gonna be big
and everybody's gonna like this one, and there's gonna be
a lot of attention to it. And I go, boy,
how come that didn't didn't get didn't gain any traction?

(44:27):
And then something that will do that. I thought, Hey,
I thought that was okay. How we did it? Like
the our Wemby take from last week that had two
million views, and I'm like, that's insane. I thought our
Wemby take was good.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
I didn't.

Speaker 4 (44:38):
I didn't think it was gonna happen, but just the
you don't know how people are gonna receive things that
are done creatively. And you know, Hackman does the movie
and doesn't get that it's gonna be a big deal.
How are you gonna do this?

Speaker 1 (44:50):
And then sees the finished product and now everybody has
seen Hoosiers. Everybody's got it in their top five, the
greatest basketball movie ever. And clearly it's a movie I've
seen of all of Gene Hackman movies, I mean clearly,
I've seen Hoosias fifty times, one hundred times.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
Maybe I had that many, I don't know. Yeah, I
hadn't watched it in a while.

Speaker 4 (45:07):
And today, you know, I had some time as I was,
you know, working at the house and doing some stuff.
Kids are out and doing their thing. Is all right,
I'll go and i'll stream it. Well, it's not available
for free, so hit my rental on away we go.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
There's my four bucks. You think it was free up
until this. Oh he died. Let's let's put it. Let's
put it on there, and let's make people pay for it.
People are gonna want it. You never can tell. I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (45:29):
I didn't do the deep dive on it, but I
checked all of the hundred streaming services that I.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
Subscribed to, and it wasn't available on none of them.

Speaker 4 (45:37):
So eventually came hit the Biden and I got to feel,
you know, look, I'm appreciating Hackman's performance obviously Hopper and
and you look at what Barbara Hershey brings to it,
all of it, And part of me is like I
could see where Hackman didn't necessarily love it, seemed to
see as you go, but piece it together, it does tug,

(46:00):
you know it and a million different you know, commonalities
that we have in our respective personal lives. Their interaction
with sport Right and Barbara Hershey's character. I don't know
about this basketball thing.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
Jimmy Elo she was.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
She was a one woman n I el andb Hey,
Gene Hackman, you get to her and you'll get Jimmy
Chitpwood And he got to her and Jimmy chip Wood
starts packing.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
Okay, lady didn't.

Speaker 4 (46:22):
Do this at something morning, And I want him to
tell her at the end of the movie, Hey, so
you know, we're playing for the state championship here.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
There's a lot of scouts here.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
He's gonna get that basketball scholarship you said was never
gonna happen for him. That's why he didn't want him
to play earlier in the film. Yeah, he's waiting to
get out of the town. He didn't get the I
hate to say, I told you so. Yeah he did,
but he didn't.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
What did she say?

Speaker 1 (46:42):
The only thing that comes through here is is the train.
You know, the only thing that comes through is the train.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
Like, uh, I got your, I got your, I got
Hitto the state championship, and now he's gonna go play
in Butler.

Speaker 4 (46:52):
No, I would say all of it to say on
the rewatch, you know the little one liners that you
forgot that don't get the same yeah, okay attention. And
my favorite was the by the end of the game,
I want to know what flavor gum he's chewing.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah a buddy, But he says that bunny,
And then he gets back to the bench after he
falls out and he just looks up doesne't say anything,
just kind of gestures makes the face uh oh, dente dente. Yeah.
But like those moments just so great.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
And even though Buddy, you don't know how he got
back on the team. Now he's a guy that he
kicked out of practice, right, but then the other kid
comes back and all of a sudden when they're their
mon time, oh buddy got back on the team.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
I got guess, buddy, buddy, Just like there's a whole subplot.
What was that? Like one guy ass beckon? How about you? Yeah?
It was it a little harder. I mean, what do
we got here? As people rose up against him? I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (47:45):
That would have another fun little scene or two to add. Now,
that was my favorite line, if you want to. My
favorite line of Hoosiers is when he goes in for
his first practice, right and he says, does the whole okay,
let's see what kind of hand I've been dealt? Right,
And Chelsea Ross, who.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
Oh no great?

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Who you know went from coaching high school basketball to
coaching Notre Dame.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
You know in Rudy Yeah. Uh and and you know
you're pitching for the Indians. Yeah. He started the wildcard. Yeah,
Harris started the wildcard game.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Uh and uh and and they're sitting there because he
was the coach the year before, and you know, Norman
Dale walks in and Chelsea Ross season he goes, okay,
I figure we started him off with some calisthenics and
then uh a layup line, and then we'll go and
and and he just nods his head and says, look,
let's be real friendly here. You know, my name is Norman. Secondly,
your coaching days are over. I was like, oh, that's

(48:33):
my favorite line. And he gets really mad and he
goes leave the ball.

Speaker 4 (48:37):
And he gets throws the perfect one balance past that
he catches.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
Like all right, He's like, hey, let's be real friendly.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
I'm in Indiana. It's his assault of the earth people.
Let's be old friendly. My name is norm Secondly, your
coaching days are over.

Speaker 4 (48:48):
So good, but like there's those interaction like the movie
as a whole, there's there's parts are like like we say,
like how does he come back? Like that's actually kind
of important, important figure to what your team's doing. But
for Gene Hackman, I think the thing that came out
and I saw it in so many notices, uh and
releases that were put up either on x or or

(49:10):
through their publicists into larger news organizations.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Almost every one of them included a line more or
less saying, never a false note, right, Never that moment
where you caught him acting right. Then we watched the
bird Catch.

Speaker 4 (49:26):
Just the other night, was I sat now with Madeline
and we had just watched that, So the timing whatever,
because she goes, oh, he was so good man and
she wanted to go down the rabbit hole before this
news and had started watching.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
I think it was Enemy of the State that she mad.

Speaker 4 (49:40):
Oh yeah, yeah, which is a great, great movie, you know,
and all of that, But just the the number of
actors and actresses, directors that just came back through with
the no, no false notes, like you never catch him
like he became whoever the every man was or the
president or the coach whatever that that it all flows
because it's One of the things we talk about a lot,

(50:02):
and we got the Oscars this weekend and they're prepping
la for it is the number of times either Demi
Moore or insert actor actress here, it's like, yeah, you
were working really hard on that scene, Like we saw
your scene work on the screen and not in a
good way.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
Yeah, look, I'll give you. It's kind of a hot take.
I don't.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
I think Gene Hackman was probably the most talented actor
in Hollywood that's been in Hollywood, the most talented because
the guy could do everything comedy, drama, hero, bad guy,
anti hero, lead roles, supporting roles. He could do it all,
and he's memorable in every one of his roles. And

(50:41):
not only that he picked well, I'm going to go
through his his filmography or in a second, he had
about a forty year career in Hollywood because he didn't
he didn't make it until he was thirty six thirty
seven years old, right, so he went from the late
sixties and he stopped acting in two thousand and four. Right,
So let's say he had a forty year career. If
you're in a forty year career in Hollywood, like I

(51:03):
look and go how many good movies does somebody do
in that span? If if you could say this movie
was good and you were intent not an average movie,
Like if this movie was good, right, you would say, okay,
maybe ten movies and if you want won every three,
you really do something that's fantastic and not something that
is out and it's forgettable.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
But not only is he so memorable in everything he did,
and like I said, he could do everything. I'm gonna
give you the movies that I'm gonna go through here
that are good, not the ones that are average, Not
the ones like Behind Enemy Lines or Heist all you,
the ones that were good that you would say, I'll
watch this a few t I watched a couple of times,
and I'll tell you that this is this is why

(51:43):
I say most talented actor we've seen. And look at
the number of good movies he's in. It's stunning, okay,
Runaway Jury, Royal ten and Bounds, Heartbreakers, Me and my
favorite teen Hackman lineup of all time when he plays
a guy from Big Tobacco and he's talking about how
they had kids testing the cigarettes and he goes, yeah,
they didn't like it when we had him in there.
We just kept giving it to him enforcement and pretty soon, Oh,

(52:04):
this guy, they couldn't.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
Get enough of those cigarettes. Man, they just kept smoking him.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
All right. It's the Heartbreakers, the Mexican, the Replacements, Enemy
of the State, Ants, the Chamber, the Bird Cage, Get Shorty.
That's ten and I'm only at nineteen ninety five, Crimson Tide,
Quick in the Dead, The Firm, Unforgiven, class Action, Postcards
from the Edge, Mississippi Burning, which the movie you saw

(52:28):
people talking about a lot today. He was phenomenal that movie,
No Way Out. He was in Hoosiers. I'm already at
twenty and I'm in nineteen eighty six. We're at twenty movies,
twenty good movies that he has done. Okay, I'll keep going.

Speaker 4 (52:42):
Reds, Superman and Superman two was Lex Luthor, French Connection,
French Connection two, Young Frankenstein, The Conversation, I'm up over
twenty five now, Scarecrow, which he says.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
Was my favorite movie.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
I did him and Dustin Hoffman and I forgot he
was in the Poseidon in Venture that and then you know,
late sixties he was in Downhill Racer with Redford and
I'm up over.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
And Bonny and Clyde Clyde.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
That's over thirty movies in a forty year career that
were good where you could say, hey, man, that's a
career highlight for me. And like I said, usually if
you're intended, if you're a big star, and I'm gonna say, like,
if you're a big star, if you're Kate Blanchette, if
you are if you are the Rock or whatever you say, Hey, Okay,
I was in ten really good movies like okay, you're

(53:31):
an average one. This is thirty, this is almost a
movie a year he did that, you could say that
movie was a big highlight this year, and Gene Hackman
was in it.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
And he was fantastic.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
That's the kind of career he had, right, Like everybody
in Hollywood has different strengths, and we talk about titans
of the industry and people who have some kind of
impact on but Gene Hackman the fact that he could
play any role and he could do it and it
looks so easy. And as you said, you don't catch
him acting. I never catch him acting, right, other people
are in it, like I caught you mentioned to me, more,

(54:02):
I caught her acting the entire time in the substance,
like she was acting the entire time. And but someone
like like Gene Hackman, who makes it so easy make
and he amplifies the movies that he's in.

Speaker 4 (54:13):
I don't think it's a coincidence. I don't think he
just picked these scripts. It's Hey, his presence in this
movie helped elevate it to where it went from. Hey,
this is an average movie that's going to come to
the cinnamon and go to something tot Hey, people are
going to go back to this years and years later
because he was just so good in it. That's the
kind of career he had, over thirty good movies in
a forty year career. Now the last one is always dismissed.

(54:34):
But Moose Part is actually a guilty pleasure of mine.
It's just so silly. You know, he's retired hanging out
with Ray Romano.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
Yeah, I'm like, I thought Ray Romano would have been better.
I thought he would have been funnier in that movie. Like,
that's the whole Fan's why I didn't say, Well, because
welcome Moose Park.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
Think everybody else carries it. Wow, Ray Romano's just kind
of there.

Speaker 4 (54:55):
In Maaransky and Rip Torn and everybody carrying the other
extreme measures if you haven't seen that, and folks, it's
him and human.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
Yeah right, Oh that's the one.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
If you had to kill like a hundred people to
cure cancer, wouldn't you have to do that?

Speaker 3 (55:09):
Like remember that?

Speaker 4 (55:11):
But like just great others, so many other movies that
he was in. It's like, all right, that's not a
big hit, but he's always great, So they're always worth
spinning for an hour and a half to two uh,
if they're streaming and you've got an afternoon to kill