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Speaker 3 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:31):
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Speaker 3 (00:39):
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(01:08):
justin fields and the Jets put up more points yesterday offensively,
but they did than both of these teams.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
It is zero zero. But wait wait, we actually have
a field goal. Whoa, oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
The Eagles have put the first points on the board,
and before you're even thinking, no, it's not snowing. It's
not an incredible rainstorm. There's not been some active God.
This is not Magnolia where the frogs start flying out everywhere. No,
this is just a Monday night football game Philadelphia and
Green Bay. It's a little chili but okay. The first
points of the game on the board in the third

(01:44):
quarter an Eagles field goal to make it three nothing.
Some interesting notes on this one. The first Monday night
football game to go into halftime scoreless since two thousand
and nine. Cleveland Jets involved in that game. But the
Browns work, Oh that makes sense, So that makes sense.
Sounds Raiders, Brown's Ravens. Ah, Brown's Raiders.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Would be much better.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
And then the Ravens rattled off sixteen points, including an
interception return for a touchdown. That was Ray Rice and
Joe Flacco's rookie year going all the way back in
the time machine. No, what a miserable first half. I mean,
the highlight was that they called a false start on
a quarterback sneak.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Yeah, yeah, that was a highlight.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
And that didn't call one on a toush push where
they were off to the races. So you know, it's
one of those things where like those are the highlights,
and right now Jordan Love is on pace to barely
eclipse the passing yardage of Justin Fields from Yester. I mean, really,
would you say Justin Field's throwing for fifty four yards? Like, well,
no one's gonna oh no, no, no, just wait, no
one's gonna get under that. Hang on a second, judge, Yah,

(02:46):
wait a minute. These guys are making Aaron Rodgers look
good last night. Dude, this guy, this looks like they're
making Aaron Rodgers if he was fused with Justin Fields
in some sort of super quarterback, making them look like, hey,
this is a this is an easy day for Sam Darnold.
For me, this is an easy day for me at
the top of the food chain. If I'm Patrick Mahomes, Yeah,

(03:06):
that was a game that I'm really glad I didn't
spend a lot of money for last night. As the
Steelers came to so far to play the Chargers. Man,
look great effort, Chargers taking care of business. But I
want a game that was not a game, that was
not a game that became a scrimmage. Jet looks like, man,
that looks like Rams Chiefs, you know, fifty four fifty game.

(03:30):
Oh no, absolutely nothing, nothing at halftime, a game that
is devoid of highlights. It's devoid of everything. Again, we're
the show you want to tune to because we know
bad football.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
Now.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
I know bad football better than you because your team
is actually good winning now yeah, bad football. Hey, you
know that's my wheelhouse man. And there has nothing been
so far this year worse than this game, even Jets
thirteen eleven with the Broncos a couple of weeks ago. No, no, no, no, no, no, no,
this is worse right here. Oh no, this has just
been on. Why well yet two near scoring drives that

(04:03):
ended with terrible plays by their respective quarterbacks and fumbles
in the first quarter. You had literally two drives took
up the entire quarter. You just zero points. You know,
I just think about the people playing fantasy tonight, and
not that they involved, but people that are starting hurts
and love because you know, you start wide receivers and

(04:24):
running backs. Sometimes you have a big nights and you
don't have a big night. Obviously, with the Packers wide
receiver situation week to week, it changes, right, and running
the football, okay, you know, Jacobs is your guy, your thing.
But on the eagle side, okay, I'm rolling dice with
aj Brown. I want to think DeVante Smith. Okay, Barkley
is not quite the same guy, but you get you
get a varying amounts, you know, from from your skill

(04:46):
position players. But just think about people who are playing
tonight and they say, yeah, I just need ten points
out of love to win, or I just need ten
points out of jail, which I'm gonna get in the
first half. I'm worried about it now. It's like, man,
I need ten points. We're midway through the third quarter.
It's three nothing. Man, this is not good, Man, not good.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
No, it's awful.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
I mean you talk about the lost fumble points too,
so depending on your league setting, you're chasing those. But
you know, for the Packers with no craft, okay, Musgrave
steps up. But you know, every week it seems to
be a different wide receivers, so you're certainly not really
diving into that that mess for lack of a better term,

(05:25):
but you're expecting Josh Jacobs to be able to run
the ball to some level of effectiveness just thirty eight
yards thus far, Barkley eleven carries for forty six he
out of fifteen yard It's like, okay, that begins it, right,
Remember going back before the bye is first one hundred
yard game of the season. Here we go and then
nothing and just getting stuffed at the line. Yeah, and
then Lane Johnson has to be carted off with an

(05:46):
ankle injury. I mean, you just had one thing after another.
This is this is a bad football game. But it's
the Eagles and the Packers and they're both at the
top of the NFC, so we always have to default
to as long as it's close. It's okay. As long
as it's close late for our purpose. Look, we win.
We don't need to talk about any part of this

(06:08):
game other than the end as long as stuff because like,
who really three nothing mill third quarter? Yeah? Can we
just fast forward? You know what, this is a defensive battle.
I'm really enjoying these struggles. He didn't believe me at all.
You know, when you want to a funny story when
working at ESPN, when I was at a PA and
working on Sports Center, Right, every highlight that gets edited

(06:30):
at night gets a certain amount of time, right, and
the big games get an important game, you get longer
like usually bullet bullet points for a highlight. Everybody got
thirty seconds for one of the games they're cutting. Now
other games get a minute. Sure, if it's a bigger game.
Sometimes the game goes crazy and it's great. You get
like a minute and a half highlight. Then they tell you,

(06:51):
tell you, hey, you're cutting Rangers twins. We're not running
a highlight like this game was. You know, four to one.
Nothing happened where you're not going to go on a highlight.
So like, but then the games that are big, you
have no choice because you know the game is big
and people want to see it. Like they would say
nothing happened the first three quarters. Cut everything from what
happened in the fourth quarter, just say hey, three nothing

(07:13):
in the fourth quarter. That's where we can't start there,
Yes we can. Yeah, if nothing happened, nothing happens. So
we don't need the first three quarter as long as
the end is good. So I'm hoping trying to be
positive here day that hey, it's been a craptastic game
so far, it's been all but hey we still have
a quarter and a half or maybe something good now.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
You never know, maybe there's a defensive touchdown.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
No, I don't know, but it's just kind of funny
watching this this game. And as we were getting ready
to transition with Robin and Carry coming out to the
odd couple, uh, they did the Hey, here's the first
half highlights. It was all b roll from pregame and
then the two fumbles. Yeah, I was saying, not a
lot of highlights. No, not a lot of highlights.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
No, nothing, nothing going.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
So we'll keep you updated on this again. Three nothing
Eagle with the lead. Well again, you're happy if you
have the under right now and a half was the
over under kick out. I feel pretty good about that
right now? What's the new indgame over?

Speaker 3 (08:09):
I am looking up as we speak.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Seven. That would be entertaining, no question about let's say
we are currently at well, actually it's not even on
my board, and that's how bad. They just decided we're
done with this. They will, let you bet it, they will.
So again, we'll have more in this game. Hopefully it
gets better for all of us. Hopefully this gets better.
But big news today in the NFL we got Jason

(08:33):
locking Forest up and by in about twelve minutes. With
more on this, but the Giants fire Brian Dable after
blowing their lead to the Bears yesterday. The Bears come
from behind. It we'll have big stuff on Caleb Williams.
We got a great hot take on Caleb Williams coming
up a little bit. But Dable gets fired. The Giants
blow a ten point lead in the fourth quarter. It's

(08:54):
the fourth fourth quarter lead they have blown. We watch
the Bears come from behind to win twenty five or
twenty and quite honestly, I feel pretty pretty solid saying this.
If Brian Dabele could have done it over again, he
would have gone for the touchdown on fourth and one
from the half yard line instead of kicking a field
goal to give themselves a twenty to ten lead in

(09:16):
the fourth court.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Probably a pretty fair bet right there.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Now here's the thing is that Dable got fired for
a lot of reasons. Right The team never got past
the promise that they had three and a half years ago,
when Daniel Jones had a really good last couple of
years and Dable gets the Giants to the playoffs, You're thinking, Okay,
they got it going on and Barkley's gonna be back healthy.
But they never got there. And it's not like they

(09:40):
didn't bring in new people, try new philosophies, and look, guys,
it's not his fault. The milk neighbors is hurt. Not
his fault. The camp Scattabo got hurt. But the Giants
had seen enough of Brian dabele led teams blowing games,
and what really came to a head. Quite honestly, you
can say it's not about that one play. It kind

(10:01):
of is right, because look, they had chances later on
in the game. They could have they could have held on,
but you know, they shank a twenty six yard punt.
You know, there's other things, but it all goes under
the umbrella of being the head coach. But when you're
two and seven and you have a chance to go
up two touchdowns, you have fourth and goal and you
kick a field goal to go up to okay, I

(10:22):
get it. But then you get a penalty that puts
the ball in the half yard line, and Brian Dable
still decided I'm gonna take the points. I'm not gonna
go for it to go up ten points here and
in a vacuum and in a season where maybe you're
five hundred, or you're six and four, or you're seven
and three, okay, with the team successful, he's made a

(10:44):
lot of good decisions. He's trusting his defense, right, that's
the real But when you're two and seven, it's why
are you not going for it? You're on the half
yard line. You can't get a half yard. I get,
you don't have scattaboy, I get, but I get and
I get you're down, you know, and Jackson Dart had
gotten hurt too. I understand that. But you're on the
half yard line. You should be able to get a
half yard and if you don't get it, you don't

(11:05):
get it. It's not like it's gonna crush. You're two
and seven. It doesn't matter like that. That was the decision.
That was the final straw that told the Giants, if
we lose this game, he's gone. Because nothing has gotten
better and it's been a hole. It's like a big
hamster wheel that they've had. We're just running in place
and hoping that things are going to change. But that
moment that was it simply because of the way the

(11:27):
season is going. It's I know it's elementary to say, well,
we're two and seven, what does it matter? But no,
but really that's it. It's two and seven. What does
it matter? Go for it, go up two touchdowns. If
you don't get it, all right, you went for it,
you couldn't do it. You shrug your shoulders. Okay, that's fine,
I mean, but the fact that they went scared at
that point that helped give the Bears a lot of momentum,
telling them, okay, you know what, Oh the Giants they're

(11:48):
not really they're really convinced. They've been working us for
three quarters, but they're not convinced they can they can
close this thing out. And that lets them back up
off the mat. And who knows that the Bears would
have won, because you know, at twenty four, maybe the
Giant's gone. You know, it's twenty four to twenty four
at that point, maybe, and they're going to overtime. But
the fact that he goes and gives you such a
timid response when you're two and seven and you're on

(12:10):
the half yard line, that's where the Giants and Joe,
Shane and Mark they said, this guy's not our guy anymore,
and we're sick of the blown leads, we're sick of everything.
This is the final straw. If he had done it differently,
maybe he's still the Giants head coach day. But he didn't,
and that really was it.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
You can't ple no.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
That was the one thing that said, well, we're thinking,
we're thinking about okay, now we just have to do
it well. And you have a guy in the building,
and you know, the shameless Northwestern plug for Mike Kafka
getting promoted. But he's a guy that's been a finalist
at least the last two cycles in terms of potential
head coaches. So he gets nearly a half season to
see what he can do. Does he have any killer

(12:48):
in steaking and fight in him, which clearly Brian Dable
had that taken out of him the last couple of weeks.
I mean the percentage chances. I mean you're looking at
win probabilities of ninety six, ninety eight whatever. I saw
one place taking the odds of them losing all three
of those games like one in sixty thousand. So scratch

(13:09):
off a lottery numbers. Whether that's fuzzy math or not,
I thought it was entertaining. I wasn't gonna break out
the calculator for it, but you get the point. These
are almost games that are in the cooler, as they say,
But for Brian Dable, You know, you talk about the
recklessness to a degree of how things have been handled

(13:30):
with Jackson Dart probably didn't play well with Mara and
ownership as much as you know that guy plays with
his hair on fire. How many times he been in
a tent four five. You had that big controversy of
trying to cajole him out of the tent a couple
of weeks ago where they got fined and it was
just a terrible look for the NFL. And you know,
one that gets picked up into all the non sports

(13:51):
shows of hey they talk safety, Look what they did
to this guy. So like it's just been a convergence
of a million bad stories and here where you have
a chance to kill what was the surging Chicago story, right,
that whole narrative and at least put people at at
ease for a moment of all right, there's still some
fight in this squad. You let them off the hook.

(14:12):
You want, Dennis green Man, You let them off the hook.
And that's why you're gonna be an offensive coordator somewhere
for next year. That's what's gonna happen. There's Brian Dable like,
like how McDermott was frosty when asked about it. I
think we're okay. Exit up about a Fresca exit swollen dub.
Sometimes it's that one bad decision that will get you fired.

(14:33):
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(14:55):
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latest on the Giants? What is next for the Bills
after that barfest a day ago? Are the Ravens really
gonna win the AFC North? Is Aaron Rodgers really done?

Speaker 3 (15:11):
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Speaker 3 (16:01):
I'm standing up in the studio.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah, no one's doing that because it's three nothing Eagles
with the lead over the Packers. Yeah, three might be
too many points them to overcome.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
It's true.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
The Wenbin Yama three pointer against my Bulls almost got
me stand up. We had a three pointer from Wemby
and that's just as many points we've seen tonight. Yeah,
between the Eagles and the Packers. Three nothing headed to
the fourth quarter.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Monday Night thriller ten week ten.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
More on this game as we continue as it merits
it if we need to, But joining us now for
all the big news in the National Football League today.
Longtime NFL Insidner. He's on Twitter at Jason lock and
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five seven the fan in Baltimore, Washington Post Jay, what's happening, man,

(16:50):
I hope you had the under tonight.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Oh I didn't. They didn't go heavy with it, as
I like, that's for Dan throw. Unfortunately, I had a
couple of touchdown parlays, So game on me.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
Did you have it?

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Did you have a one time anytime touchdown parlay in
this game?

Speaker 2 (17:06):
I mean I did play Hurts at plus one thirty
five straight up and Jacob's three receptions in at any
time touchdown and ain't go crazy with it. But uh yeah,
not looking good? All right?

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Well, listen, let's get to other more exciting news of
the day than what we've seen so far tonight. Look,
Brian Dable gets fired as Giants head coach not going
for it on fourth and one. Really the the cherry
on top of the Sunday of the Giants blown leads
in the fourth quarter this season. When you heard that
news today, was it the right call? Should they have waited?

Speaker 2 (17:43):
What?

Speaker 5 (17:43):
What?

Speaker 2 (17:43):
What?

Speaker 1 (17:43):
What do you make of this? Now that you've had
a few hours to digest it.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Well, I mean, look, I run in the Washington Post
based on what I was here, and he was pretty
much cooked after the Denver game. You lose game like that,
you know, on top of a couple of years of
pretty much object failure and losing. Uh, somebody's gonna eat it.
And Mary's old school. You know, he thinks he needs

(18:07):
his GM to get him through the season, which is
kind of ridiculous. But yeah, and then you keep bowling
games in the fourth quarter and the quarterback keeps being
in the medical tent, and you know, you've got caught
cheering into the medical tent a few weeks back when
you had no business being there. There's just I mean,
but the optics are bad. The you know, you got neighborshood,

(18:32):
you got hurt, you got shatborrow hurt. Not that that's
all on the head coach, but you've got a lot
of frustration mounting there, and you've got another well season
taking hold well before Thanksgiving. So no, I'm not surprised
that this was somebody who came into the year with

(18:54):
his job very much on the life. And there have
been some good things there for sure with the quarterback,
but you know, everybody's going to want to work with
that quarterback now, like they're gonna have you know, funny
people who look at that job as being more attractive
now that it's been in some previous cycles, specifically because
of that quarterback. And the quarterback looks pretty well developed now.

(19:17):
I don't think the idea of like Brian Gables the
only guy could get to that and like.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Stop yeah, I Jay. That's the whole thing is that
I think this is already, no matter what, we see
the most attractive job of the season offseason cycle because
of Dart and Scataboo and Neighbors comes back next year.
In the defensive line, it's hey, I'm in a position
to succeed. I think you might see guys that's good
that have gigs now say hey, wait a minute, I

(19:41):
would leave. I want to go to the giants. What
are some names you wouldn't be surprised to hear, you
know for giants when when they start looking full time,
unless you know by Kafka reels off like seven wins
in a.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Row, well yeah that's not gonna happen. I mean, look
this we turns through these guys so quickly. I mean
I don't know who people would be super fired up
about right now. I don't know, you know, like the
hot coordinator thing, Like I feel like we've kind of
exalted in m may think you know, the very s

(20:12):
out on call going. Uh, you know, Zach Robinson can't
do anything as an OC with Atlanta, Like, I don't
know who the next guy up there would be the
group of guys who have been fired already and are
going to be fired. I don't see them getting another chance,
like Mike McCarthy, Like you look at the gambling odds.
I mean, Jason Garrett and Mike McCarthy are there, Like really,

(20:36):
what the hell? I mean? Look, does he get bad
in Pittsburgh? You know? Like is that the end? I mean,
I would think they would be Mike Tomlin in New York.
That would seem to be a perfect match. Now again,
we'll have to see how that plays out there, and
a lot of things would have to come to pass.
But like if you're asking me people who could maybe

(20:59):
be out there who might interest them. But I mean
if people talk about Cliff Knny Perry, stop come on, man,
like Ben mc to do three point zero? Like, I
don't know, guys I don't know. There's a pretty good
chance if Mara hires him, he'll stink. That's what I
do know.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
There you have it.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
I've seen the lane kiff and battle, not just for
the college range, but potentially for this one as well.
His name's been bandied about, but since you mentioned Mike Tomlin,
other than this Monday night football game, that Pittsburgh effort,
other than a bad pass to DK Metcalf that had
hope for until it left Roger's hand, was about as

(21:39):
dismal an effort as you see.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
I mean, look, Keith on his last legs. I mean,
he's basically cooked. And to think that now the weather
is starting to turn right and the schedules ramped up
and the deadlines pass. So it is what it is.
It's still players are still players. He's gonna bring out
the worst in him. I still got a lot of

(22:02):
division games to come, and people in this division can
play a little defense outside of you know, Cincinnati, and
Cincinnati still already found a way to be one point
or whatever better than him last time. So you know,
I think you're going to see the frustration boil over
you already have. I just don't you know, I don't
think he's someone at this stage of his career who

(22:24):
you could remotely think is going to get better as
the season goes off, and you need to stack wins early.
You need to get him confident. You need to be
able to incubate him. They can't play from behind at
all like that. That's if they can get thirty five
to forty run plays off some way, somehow the script
allows that, and the defense is creating turnovers on that day,

(22:45):
then they can win. But that's a tough needle to threat.
And you're not going to be able to come back
on anybody with this guy who's your quarterback at this
stage of his career. You're just not me. The only
time he wants to push the ball down the field
is when it's a hill Mary against a free man rush.
Like that's it, Jay.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
When it comes to that division. Now, obviously the Ravens
are back in the mix. You're there in Baltimore. The
defense seems like they magically fixed itself a couple of
weeks ago. Again, what what, what what has happened? I mean, really,
as bad as it was to begin with, I thought
the season was over after Week one, and now look
at where they are. Now I'm knocking on the door

(23:23):
at the top of the division, like like, like, what's
happened outside of Lamar coming back? Like what's happened? Because
you know he's not making the defense better.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Well, before we go crazy, table Williams far and away. Okay,
they faced Stafford. They ended up giving up seventeen there.
You know, the Rams were about to fly the long man,
like that game was over at seventeen to three. You know,
like Cooper Rush wasn't going to move the ball at all.
So if you want to give him credit for that, like, okay,
you know, Adams drops a couple of touchdown passes, hurt

(23:53):
his ankle real early in the game, But like go
look at who they play. I mean, you know, like Bailable,
you know JJ McCarthy. I mean, he can't throw the
ball past the line of scrimmage. Like they're going to
get Dylan Gabriel last week, then they're gonna get whether
it's Taylor or Field. They you know, I think that's

(24:17):
got a whole lot to do with it.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
They don't really have a pass rush, they've got good secondary,
and they haven't really been attacked with running backs and
tight ends lately.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
In the past game. But I still think they're really
vulnerable to that. But they can get three safeties on
the field now with the Gilman trade with the Chargers,
and that allows them to keep Kyle Hamilton around the
line of scrimmage where he needs to be, and that's
helping the pass rush, that's helping the blitz, and that's
helping them knock down balls to the line of scrimmage,
which is really what's going on. Even more so than

(24:51):
in sacks and pressures, they've been able to disrupt the
ball in flight coming out of the quarterback's hands. So
I again like they're not a lot of things have
brooked their way in terms of who they're facing and
the way this schedule works, and they're going to continue
to feast for a couple more weeks and we'll see.

(25:12):
I mean, they do this every year, Like even did
this under McDonald, as good as he was calling plays.
They start slow, they have to make some personnel adjustments,
some scheme adjustments, and then they'd be much better in
the second half. And that's certainly the case right now.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Currently minus two fifty to win the division implies a
seventy one and a half percent Pittsburgh at plus two fifty.
But now Joe Burrow is going to return plus eighteen hundred,
too little, too late? Are just are they just talking
about wishing and hoping here?

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Jay?

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yeah, I don't think we're going to say until you know,
closer to the mid mid December. But if we even
see him at all, because they lose three more games
before he comes back, what did you really bring it
him back for? I mean, what what is the risk
we ward there? And that would be like the leading
leaving Jade Daniels in the game the other day on

(26:09):
steroids like that would be doing that on crack. You know,
we got no offensive line, we can't stop anybody defensively.
Let's let Joe Burrow thro you know, Let's let Joe
Burrow come out there, rusty in a lost, lost season
and throw the ball fifty five times a game while
Zach Tellen tries to save his job. But I dare him,
I dare you to do that. I dare you.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
So, Jay, when it comes to it, when it comes
to this division now okay, because it's not now, it's
gone from Boy, it's so bad, it's fun. If I
said to you, what's the big thing. What do you
expect end of the year, who winds up at the
top of this division?

Speaker 2 (26:45):
I mean, I think it's Baltimore. I mean they still
have five division games to play, including two with Pittsburgh.
They play Cincinnati twice in a three weeks span. Now
is it going to be Burrow for one of those games?
Is a flat go for both? I don't know, but yeah,
I mean it sets up pretty well for Baltimore. But

(27:09):
like Pittsburgh, I mean, they're never It's like it's never
ever till it's over. I mean, Tomlin's never had a
losing season, but you look at their schedule, you could
play the win lost win win lost game. But like
they'll probably beat Buffalo, you know, now they also lose
to Cleveland. Like I I don't know, but I mean
Baltimore's closed the gap enough to now where I think

(27:32):
a reasonable person would have to say the Ravens are
gonna win this division.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
He's on Twitter at Jason Locke and four that is
at Jason lock and for a wanna bet Odyssey Washington
Post one oh five seven. The fan in Baltimore Jays
always Buddy appreciate it. I hope we get more points
in the fourth quarter, so at least you didn't miss anything.
While you're talking to us, everything is still.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
The same about holding my breath.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
There goes Jason lock and for I mean, look, this
is this is one of those situations where you know,
a few weeks ago it was the Ravens can't come
back from here. But remember when we tell you the
Steelers stink, well the division as a whole. As much
as I love Joe Flacco, yes, the Browns come off
to the Jets. That right now, if Burrow comes back Thanksgiving,
I'm thinking, oh, maybe you never know. That's it, Flood.

(28:21):
But man, they're eighteen to one. Vision is eighteen to one.
If you want to go down that path, bad, It's bad, man,
it's bad. But no, it's awful, right Cleveland. Cleveland's terrible.
I mean, did you actually want to win this game?
I mean, that's that's hard. Far you find the trade
already got you some picks. Yeah, I was fine when
because no matter who the if the Jets pick a quarterback,

(28:42):
whoever it is, it's going to be wrong. So I'd
rather almost them to pick be a little bit lower
so we get like Caleb Downs. You know, maybe that'll
work and and uh and that'll be better because if
we pick a quarterback, whoever we pick is wrong. So
I was absolutely okay until he gets to three teams
to separation. Yeah no, okay, yeah, I'm completely but yeah.
By by odds, their seventy two percent favorites the Ravens

(29:03):
to win the division at this point, exit ou about
a Fresca exit swelling Dome. Jason Smith Mike Harmon live
from the Fox Sports Radio studios. We have what's trending
and breaking news well right now from special delivery Steve
de Sager, because we have a six point touchdown in
the Monday night football game.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Wait a minute, six points on one night shot.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Just want to make sure people know you can get
six points on one play in the NFL. You're watching
this game. You don't know that until just now.

Speaker 6 (29:32):
There are people that pay good money for this in
Green Bay, Wisconsin, and it's about thirty degrees and the
Packers are getting shut out. With ten and a half
minutes to go, it's Eagles ten nothing now. DeVante Smith
a thirty six yard reception from Jalen Hurts. Each quarterback
had fumbled in this game. It was scoreless at halftime. Tonight,
Eagles kicked a thirty nine yard field goal in the
third quarter. Now it's early in the fourth now. On

(29:55):
the very first drive of the night, sixteen plays worth
for the Eagles, it ended in a Jalen Hurts fumble.
Each quarterback as fumbled tonight, but that was the longest
Eagles drive to end in a turnover in the last
twenty five seasons, and the fact that the Packers forced
the turnovers notable because they entered the game with the
second fewest takeaways in the league this season. By the way,

(30:17):
the Eagles had scored in every first quarter this year
until tonight. Now the Bears are the only team in
the NFL to have scored in every first.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Quarter, something they didn't do at all last year.

Speaker 6 (30:27):
In many quarters. Yes, the Packers had twenty four yards
of offense in the first quarter. By halftime, it was
seven total punts and seven penalties, the Packers going scoreless
through three quarters for the first time in two years.
It's now an Eagles ten to nothing lead at Green
Bay again, about ten and a half minutes to go

(30:48):
in this game, Jordan Love ten of eighteen passing for
eighty seven yards Jalen Hurts up to one hundred and
seven sixty seven yards passing and a touchdown, so the
Love Hurts game appropriately named Tonight. The Giants fired coach
Brian Dable, but general manager Joe Shane stays. The interim
is now offensive coordinator Mike Kafka. The Giants record over

(31:10):
the past two and a half years eleven and thirty three,
including two and eight this season. Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow
hopes to return on Thanksgiving for a game at Baltimore.
He's on ir with a toe injury. He returned to
limited practice today. Jets wide receiver Garrett Wilson could miss
at least three to four weeks with a sprain knee.
Washington head coach Dan Quinn is taking over defensive coordinator duties.

(31:32):
Also Commander's defensive lineman Deron Payne was suspended one game
for throwing a punch yesterday to the scoreboard in the
NBA overtime at Miami. The heat of just beaten Cleveland
one forty to one thirty eight. There was a lot
of NBA excitement tonight, oddly more than the NFL had
to offer us Detroit in overtime beat Washington one thirty seven,

(31:55):
one thirty five. Kate Cunningham had forty six points. He
was four teena forty five shooting from the floor to
get those forty six points. Washington Wizard's now one and ten.
Lakers got thirty eight points from Luka Donsich in a
win at Charlotte won twenty one one eleven, Lakers eight
and three. Orlando beat Portland on a three pointer at

(32:16):
the buzzer by Desmond Baine. He had been oh five
from long distance, but one fifteen to one to twelve
Magic the final San Antonio's eight and two after winning
at Chicago one twenty one one seventeen. Victor Wimbanyama thirty
eight points. He had twelve rebounds and five locks as well,
and nine minutes to go at Dallas. The Mavericks are
leading the Milwaukee Bucks ninety four to eighty seven. The

(32:40):
new number one team in men's college basketball is Houston.
NHL Islanders won in overtime at New Jersey, three to two.
The American League Rookie of the Year is Nick Kurtz
of the A's. He got all thirty first place votes.
A shortstop. Jacob Wilson finished second and the National League
Rookie of the Year Braves catcher Drake Baldwin. He won
twenty one votes to nine, and finishing second was Cubs

(33:01):
pitcher Kate Horton, who went eleven and four.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve O. Jason Smith, Mike
Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Coming up next,
we got your play in the Day coming your way.
Plus you want a great MVP hot take, we got
one for you in the NFL. That's next right here,
Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best friend
Mike Harmon.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
My wife.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
My wife just texted me, Yeah, is there some sort
of stat for the most boring football game in history? Well,
I mean we rank them, uh one through two seventy two.
I mean, by the end of the year, you had one,
we had what we said last year, This one's two
seventy you had win it like two seventy now's right now?
This one's a like two seventy one. Well, but I
mean it might be ratcheting up here in the final minutes.

(33:55):
I mean as long as, like we said, as long
as it's close late. Yep, yup, Jason, I don't know
if there is list. If there is one, it's a
lot of Jets games here. Oh no, it's true. Yeah, yeah,
you see that list, Like eight of the ten games
involved Jets teams. But we do want it to be
close late. It looks like that might be the case.
Jacobs is in the end zone for the Packers their

(34:16):
first score of the night, extra point pending, so now
it will likely be ten to seven late in the
fourth quarter, five and a half to go. Oo we
got points well, I mean he's well over a hundred
total yards on the night. Now the touchdown, so for
fantasy purposes, you got that floor that you hit and
crash through that. Now, let's see what we've got for

(34:36):
this final five to forty nine. All right, So we
got more exciting stuff coming up in a minute. But first,
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would be it, But no, it's the hoop that didn't
count for Luka Doncic. That's the play of the day.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
Another rebounds for his sixth terrible. The Lakers called time
out and Doncic fired it just because he's a been
a painter.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Horne and Stevie on the call. Doncic fires it from
the Lakers free throw line. I mean it doesn't count.
But a night where he had thirty eight, he just
chucks it up from the Lakers free throw line and
he swishes it for a three that didn't count. It
doesn't matter, It doesn't matter. That's the play of the day.
Do I get to call for like a controversial thing

(35:48):
the next time he misses an actual shot?

Speaker 3 (35:50):
Then what the hell?

Speaker 4 (35:51):
Man?

Speaker 3 (35:52):
No, man, you get hit that one without thinking about it.
You respect the MVP? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (35:56):
No respect that hey and listen, I'm looking. I'm excited
to see when Lebron James plays with the South Bay
Lakers as it's come back all.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
How great would that be.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
It's got like the minor league rehab States where the
guy's gotta buy lobster and state for all the guys
that get nothing. And Bro, you're the minor league, as
what are you doing. You're on the bus, let's go.
And Bronny's like, Dad, I'm with the Lakers. You're playing
South Bay to my dad, Dad, just good luck Dad.
He's gonna cater Blaze pizza. Good luck Dad, that pizza
ain't showing up, just like he didn't. Again, it's gonna
be so awkward when Lebron does return to the Lakers.

(36:27):
But how about this, you want to hot take NFL MVP? Okay,
got one for you. Drake may is near the top.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
Oh, he's at the top right now.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
No matter where you look, he's anywhere from first to
second as the favorites. Yeah, Matthew Stafford also getting a
lot of run. When you throw four touchdowns a week
for like nine weeks in a row, you're gonna get
run as MVP. But I'm going to give you somebody else,
because I want to push the conversation forward because early
on in the season, we told you everything was gonna
be fine with this guy. It's the era of good

(36:59):
feeling and just got to sit back and let things bake.
Jonathan Taylor, right, but oh, Jonathan Taylor's terrific. Fantasy owners
really upset because they're a bye this week? Like, oh no, However,
Stafford is great, Drake may has played fantastic. But how
about Caleb Williams MVP? Think about it right, come on,

(37:22):
come on now. His numbers are fine, you're taking me
down a deep dark path. Numbers are fine, But the
MVP isn't always about the numbers. Sometimes it is, but
the fact that the Bears are succeeding is a storyline
that cuts through. We've watched Caleb Williams now win four
last minute games by dicing up the defense in a

(37:42):
myriad of ways. Sometimes it's I'm finding the right receiver
on my first read. Sometimes it's finding the right guy
and a check down. Sometimes it's scrambling for a first down.
Four not four comeback wins where oh we were down
seven to six, early four last minute wins where he
has rescued the Bears because of the end of games.
He's playing incredibly clutch. That's a big number. You're talking about.

(38:04):
Half their wins was at the end.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
Ken.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Now they're calling a unicorn now, and I mean, really,
Caleb Williams has been that good. He has been someone
that he's smart with the football, he's finding the right weapons.
We told you he's gonna be a star, and now
people are coming around to that. Oh I always said, Caleb,
But yeah, yeah, that's great.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Listen, remember this is why we call the show ahead
of the curve, because you are ahead of the curve.
Now he's even better than he was. Chicago is not
nearly six and three without him. If you love Drake
May for MVP, right, and I'm okay with that. If
you want to love Drake May for MVP, you gotta
love Caleb Williams more because he's pulling out games at
the end. He's winning games by himself. I can't tell
you a lot of games Drake May is won by himself.

(38:44):
He has played terrific. But I can point again four
to six wins where Caleb Williams just turns to a
different guy at the end, and in a year where
not everybody is running crazy with stats. You don't have
a quarterback with thirty touchdowns at this point. Mahomes is
not having that year. Caleb Williams, MVP. Think about that
and what he's accomplished. It's a hot take, it's really

(39:04):
not that hot.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
I'll tell you how he can win it.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Like this is where we really kick this down the
road is the fact that the Bears going forward have
the toughest strength of schedule remaining in the National Football League.
When you look at their quote easy opponents, You've got
the Vikings are listed as an easy opponent, with his
classmate JJ McCarthy leading the way, and then the Cleveland Browns. Otherwise,

(39:27):
Pittsburgh still on the plus side right having fallen off altogether.
San Francisco reeling, but still they had a little fighting
him before they acquiesced. On Sunday, you got the Lions
two against the Packers and a game against Philadelphia currently
ten to seven as we are talking here at the
end of the hour one. But you look at what

(39:48):
Williams has done starting to push the ball downfield. Last
year was really good with the touchdown to interception ratio,
but it was all a shot chart between five yards
ahead of the line of image in five yards behind it.
Not a lot of pushing the ball downfield, a lot
of sacks that he absorbed this year learning to play.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Coming into the.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Week, was tied for second with the most snaps in
play action something Ben Johnson wanted to do. What's he doing.
He's seeing the field better, making better decisions, not taking
sacks and advancing the ball. Now, have they had some
great circumstances where it rolled up? Sure, Brian Dable was goward,
he got fired. You had the Cincinnati Bengals three guys

(40:29):
pinball off Loveland as he runs towards the end zone.
All of those things. You know what, the box scores
all read the same. And where he can take over
for Drake may here in terms of that favorite right
he's at plus three hundred, is the fact that they've
got the easiest strength of schedule remaining, so they're gonna
pack it stack up wins. But if Caleb is able
to do more of the same that he's done these

(40:50):
last couple weeks, it's going to be a bigger and
more impressive show. And in Chicago, Caleb Williams, NFL MVP
just think about that for a second.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
That's just crazy.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
How about coming up next well off More and Monday
Night Football? And how about the right guy to replace
Brian Dable in New York? Sell Sell, Sell, I watched
the jot I don't know if we're gonna get two
touchdowns the rest of the year, Garret. I can't count
in a kick and punt return for touchdown every game.
We're not playing the Browns again. I mean, come on, man,
looking at the quarterbacks that you're going up against, like,

(41:22):
we can get a touchdown defensively against that guy right
by the way, who is the genius that thought?

Speaker 2 (41:26):
You know?

Speaker 1 (41:26):
We gotta do we gotta put Jets Patriots on but
like week eleven, Like, what are you talking about? Man?
Why would you play? This is like a week two
TNF game. Let's get them before the Jets suck because
we know that's gonna and the Patriots how good are
they gonna be? Now you didn't know about the Patriots, okay,
but really, boy, we gotta get the Jets while they're
still so why why would you go Jets and Patriots

(41:47):
week eleven?

Speaker 3 (41:48):
Come on, man? Really?

Speaker 1 (41:49):
I think they wanted to highlight Aaron Glen against Mike
Rabel al Michaels right now is look at this, guys,
We're going, oh no, no, no, not after last week.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
You can't do this to me.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Yes, the points spread, No, not doing this, not doing this,
guess it? Twenty one, twenty one and a half. It
might as well be tef. It's early in the week.
It's early in the week. It's early. So again, closing
on the two minute warning, Packers with the football deep
in their own territory and need a field goal to
tie this game. Really, boy, from last Thursday to tonight

(42:20):
and we got Jets, but we are in a bad
week run of Thursday night foot Yeah, but you know
Thursday will be great because you'll you'll still get either
hyped or unconsolable depending on how that game goes. Because
I mean, you don't love the Patriots. You hate the Patriots, right.
The fact that they won this past weekend gives them

(42:40):
a little bit of juice, right because that was a
plus team that was a division leading team. They're minus
I think nine thousand to win that division. That's how
bad the NFC South is. Even after the loss, the
Buccaneers are that that great Carolina coming in at plus
eight fifty. Their quarterback had one hundred and twenty four
passing yards, eclips two hunerd passing yards once all year.

(43:02):
Uh yeah, and they're they're the second favorite, uh in
the division. But yeah, the Patriots get in there and
sell Drake may sell sell Sell. I mean maybe networks
can slump too, right, Like, Hey, we're we're in a
bad We're in a bad pride. We gotta we gotta
pull ourselves out of this.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Man.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
We're in a we're in a bad way.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Man.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
We gotta, we gotta, we gotta have meetings.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
We gotta have players only meetings, we have executive only meetings.
We gotta figure it out. Did they suddenly start playing
an old Jets Patriots game.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
Here's Tom Brady. We're gonna show you, Tom Brady, look
at this.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Uh so again, this is where we're at right now.
But again ten seven two minute warning in the fourth quarter.
More in this game coming up in a few minutes.
But Brian Dable got fired as Giants head coach today.
Can't say I blame the Giants, right, Dable. It's just
time after time after time of Dable and the Giants
falling short. The blown lead in Denver four blown fourth

(43:53):
quarter leads this year. The tipping point was not going
for it on fourth and one yesterday against the Bears,
and that coming back to haunt them in a loss.
The Giants had decided that's enough and we're moving on
right now. Mike Kafka for a Northwestern Star. Yeah, will
five hundred plus yards in a bowl game against Auburn.
It was a loss, but TJ clearly the Giants hoping

(44:14):
under Kafka the offense will undergo a metamorphosis as they
continue on. TJ, well done for the well read out there.
You got that. If not, just let it go. You
know he did lose the Syracuse that year. Yeah, yeah,
thirty seven, thirty four. He's disqualified that. That is a

(44:35):
tough thing to look back at the calendar, Syracuse. You're out. Yeah, well,
and you also don't want to yell at the head
coach on the way out because he may wind up
yelling at you and getting fined for out of pocket gestures. Yeah,
we can't even say what the coach said to a
fan as he was leaving, said he wanted to fight Mike. No,

(44:58):
I mean I like hot take nons. That works, But no, no, no,
this is FCC non compliancy. So hopefully the networks figure
out their NFL football a slump again, and because boy,
this is not a great week.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
No it's okay.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
But with Dable being fired, right, Mike Kaffa takes over,
and it's not like he's suddenly gonna start winning a
bunch of games. The Giants as good as Jackson dart is,
they're just not good enough. Right, But let me throw
this to who are they gonna get?

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Right?

Speaker 1 (45:27):
This is gonna be probably the best opening of the
off season because you're in a position to succeed, right.
It's a you are a coming into a situation where
a young quarterback who is terrific. You have a young
running back who's a leader who will come back from
injury camp scattaboo. You have Molik Neighbors, one of the
best young wide receivers. You have some big time talent.
You have a really good defensive lineup due Carter. It's

(45:49):
New York like all of a sudden, the Giants, this
is a great opening, and it's I don't know that
you're gonna get a better opening because you want to
come in with a quarterback to be able to succeed.
You see the success Johnson's having coming in as from
former OC with the Lions. How things are going now
with Caleb Williams? Right, we talked about a few minutes ago,
Caleb Williams. Really you want to talk about Matthew Stafford

(46:09):
and Drake May. Caleb Williams might be more than those
guys for MVP I fifty one. Think about what he's
done right, and it's worked out, This relationship has worked.
You have now doomed my second half of my bear.
See Caleb Williams can't find receiver at all, he still
has it completed a pass justin fields with better stats
than Caleb Williams. Remember after week one and two when

(46:31):
everybody said it wouldn't work.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Yeah, here we are.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
But let me throw this out here because you want
to know a name, and we'll be the first one
because then people can steal this for tomorrow. Is that
the name of the guy that I thought of right
away that I said, Okay, what do we got here?
You have a young quarterback a year out of college
who continues to be the guy you need to mold you.

(46:55):
You don't need to worry about drafting anything else. That's
getting him help. The quarterback is the number one thing, right,
That's all you need to worry about. Quarterback quoter. You
have a franchise quarterback in an offensive minded head coach
that cuts out half the candidates. Do you want the
next up and coming young offensive coordinator. Yeah, and theory,
but he's got to be out there, and I don't

(47:16):
know that there's that guy out there right I don't
know that there's another Ben Johnson out there right now.
This would also work because it would get his current
situation to a place of being resolved. But what about this,
a guy with an incredible quarterback track record, multiple Heisman

(47:37):
Trophy winners, Lincoln Riley, head coach New York Giants. Think
about think about for a second what he did at
Oklahoma getting to USC coaching Caleb Williams to a Heisman trophy.
Caleb Williams is pretty terrific so far. Guys he has
coached have been really good. He was on the NFL

(47:58):
radar a couple of years ago. Instead of staying in college,
instead of staying where he was, I want to go
to USC, right, got the one hundred million dollar contract,
all the big cash. It is not work great at USC,
but one thing we have seen offensively, they've gone from
Heisman Trophy Caleb Williams, now you have Ja Maiva who

(48:19):
could wind up being a Heisman Trophy finalist. The offense
has been pretty good. Has it worked for him in
LA It is not And maybe it's unrealistic expectations, but
when you get one hundred million dollars and a plane,
people expect certain things, expect you to get to the playoff.
It's not been a disaster, but it's not worked either.
So USC, I am sure would be okay with saying, yeah,

(48:41):
let's move on. Maybe we not have to pay out
as much if this is something that happens. He goes
calling to the NFL. Let's see how this really winds
up going. And if you're the Giants, we want to
make sure we have an NFL ready head coach who
can come in can relate to our young quarterback who's
pretty headstrong and is Baker Mayfield with a more talented

(49:03):
and more mobile Baker Mayfield. Of all the ways you
can go. Remember he was on the radar a couple
of years ago to the left Oklahoma for USC. Lincoln
Riley get you out of things if you're USC and
maybe there's some kind of money situation, they can figure
out where hey, we're not paying out the rest of
your payout, but us he can print money, So it's okay,
we can figure this out if the Giants come calling.

(49:26):
Because I'll tell you what, that's one of my first
phone calls from the Giants too. Who do we want
to come in? That I know as a track record
with quarterbacks, that could be someone that jump into New
York has handled the big firestorm Lincoln Riley. Well, certainly
USC's had their share of lawsuits that they've had to
navigate through the years as well. In addition to whatever

(49:47):
is left on that rumored one hundred million dollars, like
when John Gruden had the one hundred million dollar deal,
Like I really wanted to see the actual PaperWorks, like
is it really?

Speaker 3 (49:55):
Is it really?

Speaker 1 (49:56):
Are there a bunch of contingencies? I don't know, but
I'm curious to see. And I like the cut of
your Jim right, it's bold. Mayava has been great in spots.
The backup quarterback clearly can throw a pass high, Jersey gate,
all of those things that come through. Yeah, that play
that they used against Northwestern subtenly getting apologies from the

(50:20):
conference office and the officiating for the chicanery there. But
you know, he has navigated through a lot of fires.
He's not been fired on the tarmac just yet. Mayava
has been solid seventeen and six touchdown to interception ratio,
well over two thousand passing yards. And you look, they've

(50:42):
had some clean games of late and they're still in
the mix right at two losses. They're still potentially there
to make some noise, still a couple of spots on
the schedule to navigate. But it is curious, right because
Lane Kiffen's name has been linked to every job and
immediately he's only going to get one of them, and

(51:02):
literally got linked here immediately, so he falls off the
list on one of these would be futures and to
the high as bidder they go. But the thing is
he was a disaster the first time around. I mean
it was the Raiders, so real Uni position succeed, but
it was disaster. The obviously knows Jackson Dart very well.
You know you have that s what I'm curious, and

(51:23):
I'll just leave it here, is that you've got Mike
Kafka in place, a guy who has been in Buffalo,
a guy who's been in Kansas City and has been
waiting for a chance. Right, He's been a finalist several times.
And as much as everybody wants say, hey, Brian Dabele, well,
what did kaff could do with Jackson Dart to make
him the quarterback that he is right now, it's it's
like presumed it was all dable, So all of a

(51:46):
sudden he's just gonna get hired.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
Where like, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
I think Kafka has got something to say about this,
Like Dabel's gonna come out and say it was Ka
wanted to kick the field goal. You know what I
mean for me from a half yard out?

Speaker 3 (51:56):
He said, kick a coach, it's his offense that like
he did run. Look, I wanted to save him because
I ran into the blue tent. Did you see Kafka
going in there?

Speaker 2 (52:05):
No?

Speaker 3 (52:06):
You saw me.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
No.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
It's one of those where he's got a second half
to audition. Now is he dealing with in an inferior
roster at this point? Right in and out of the lineup,
Thomas has been hurt. But an offensive line that you've
pieced together the running back position between Tracy and singletary. Certainly,
is it the same as Scatibo and you're leading receivers wandale. Okay, fine,

(52:30):
but you go and you make what you can of it,
so long as Jackson Dart is able to do so,
because that's been the hard part is sometimes guy's got
to find out you know where those limits are, and
you're not a linebacker and you're not Camp Scatabo, he's out.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
You don't get to run through people.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Because we watched him do one of those Nelson months
Simpson's football things several weeks ago where he could have
avoided the would be tackler. No, he ran straight at
his ass, like what are you doing? You're a quarterback.
Lived to see another day. But Kafka is a is
a guy that I think has a seven game audition here,
uh to see what he does. But yeah, Lincoln Riley
certainly there, Mike McCarthy's name has come up.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
Some of the old.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
NFL standby re treads are certainly maybe Joe Brady out
of Buffalo gets a shot at a head gig.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
We'll see.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Just think Lincoln Riley, his youthful new face NFL Jackson Dart,
because that's the type of situation you have where two
leaders in dart and scatter. We want to say, Blanke
you let's fight like that's what these guys are about.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
We'll fight right now, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Is this where Sean McBride goes, hey, it'll solve our
salary cap problems although it's usc and the buyout question, yeah,
well that's why you can hit'll solve her. You want
to come to you know, we can make it work.
We can figure out a buy out, some sort of
thing that gets you going to be the head coach.
You want to leave, Maybe you take less money the
giants want you.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
Yeh.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
Money can be Money can always be figured out