November 11, 2025 • 41 mins
Jason and Mike explained how the Giants head coaching job will be best opening in NFL in '25-'26 cycle. NFL Insider Jason la Canfora tells us when Joe Burrow plans to make his return to the Bengals. Plus, a sizzling hot NFL MVP take!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
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Speaker 3 (00:38):
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I didn't think I'd be sitting here in the third
(01:04):
quarter of Monday Night football saying, justin fields and the
Jets put up more points yesterday offensively, but they did
than both of these teams.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
It is zero zero.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
But wait wait, we actually have a field goal. Whoa,
oh my goodness. The Eagles have put the first points
on the board and before you're even thinking, no, it's
not snowing. It's not an incredible rainstorm. There's not been
some active God. This is not Magnolia where the frogs
start flying out everywhere. No, this is just a Monday
night football game, Philadelphia, Green Bay. It's a little chili,
(01:39):
but okay. The first points of the game on the
board in the third quarter an Eagles field goal to
make it three nothing.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Some interesting notes on this one.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
The first Monday night football game to go into halftime
scoreless since two thousand and nine. Cleveland Jets involved in
that game. They were not sure. But the Brown Oh
that makes sense, So that makes sense. Raiders, Brown's Ravens. Ah,
Brown's Raiders would be much better then. The Ravens rattled
off sixteen points, including an interception return for a touchdown.
(02:10):
That was Ray Rice and Joe Flacco's rookie year going
all the way back in the time machine. No, what
a miserable first half. I mean, the highlight was that
they called a false start on a quarterback sneak. Yeah, yeah,
that was a highlight. And that didn't call one on
a toush push where they were off to the razo
so you know, it's one of those things where like
those are the highlights and right now Jordan Love is
(02:32):
on pace to barely eclipse the passing yardage of Justin
Fields from yes to I mean, really, would you say Justin
Field's going for fifty four yards? Like, well, no one's
gonna oh no, no, no, just wait, no one's gonna
get under that. Hang on a second, judge, Yah, wait
a minute. These guys are making Aaron Rodgers look good
last night. Dude, this guy, this looks like they're making
Aaron Rodgers if he was fused with Justin Fields in
(02:54):
some sort of super quarterback, making them look like, Hey,
this is a this is an easy day for Sam Darnold.
For me, this is an easy day for me at
the top of the food chain. If I'm Patrick Mahomes, Yeah,
that was a game that I'm really glad I didn't
spend a lot of money for last night. As the
Steelers came to so far to play the Chargers. Man, look,
(03:15):
great effort, Chargers taking care of business. But I want
a game that was not a game, that was not
a game that became a scrimmage that looks like man,
that looks like rams Chiefs. You know, fifty four fifty game.
Oh no, absolutely nothing, nothing at halftime, a game that
is devoid of highlights. It's devoid of everything. Again, we're
(03:37):
the show you want to tune to because we know
bad football. Now. I know bad football better than you
because your team is actually good winning now yeah, bad football. Hey,
you know that's my wheelhouse, man. And there has nothing
been so far this year worse than this game, even
Jets thirteen eleven with the Broncos a couple of weeks ago. No, no, no, no, no, no, no,
this is worse right here. Oh no, this has just
(03:58):
been unwatchable yet chewed near scoring drives that ended with
terrible plays by their respective quarterbacks and fumbles. In the
first quarter you had literally two drives took up the
entire quarter. You just zero points. You know, I just
think about the people playing fantasy tonight and not that
(04:18):
they involved, but people that are starting hurts and love yeah,
because you know, you start wide receivers and running backs.
Sometimes you have a big nights and you don't have
a big night. Obviously with the Packers wide receiver situation
week to week, it changes, right, and running the football, okay,
you know Jacobs is your guy, your thing. But on
the eagle side, Okay, I'm rolling dice with aj Brown.
I want to think Devonte Smith. Okay, Barkley is not
(04:41):
quite the same guy, but you get you get a
varying amounts, you know, from from your skill position players.
But just think about people who are playing tonight. They say, yeah,
I just need ten points out of love to win,
or I just need ten points out of jail, which
I'm gonna get in the first half. I'm worried about
it now. It's like, man, I need ten points. We're
midway through the third quarter.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Nothing.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Man, this is not good, man, not good. No, it's awful.
I mean you talk about the lost fumble points too,
So depending on your league setting, you're chasing those. But
you know, for the Packers with no craft, okay, Musgrave
steps up. But you know, every week it seems to
be a different wide receiver, so you're certainly not really
diving into that that mess for lack of a better term,
(05:24):
but you're expecting Josh Jacobs to be able to run
the ball to some level of effectiveness just thirty eight yards.
Thus far, Barkley eleven carries for forty sixty out of
fifteen yard It's like, okay, that begins it, right, Remember
going back before the bye is first one hundred yard
game of the season. Here we go and then nothing
just getting stuffed at the line. Yeah, and then Lane
Johnson has to be carted off with an ankle injury.
(05:46):
I mean, you just had one thing after another. This
is this is a bad football game. But it's the
Eagles and the Packers and they're both at the top
of the NFC, so we always have to default too.
As long as it's called it's okay, as.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Long as it's close late for our purpose. Look, we win.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
We don't need to talk about any part of this
game other than the end as long as because like,
who really three nothing mill third quarter? Yeat? Can we
just fast forward?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
This is a defensive battle. I'm really enjoying these struggles.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yeah, he didn't believe me at all.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
You know, when you want to know a funny story,
when working at ESPN, when I was at a PA
and working on Sports Center, Right, every highlight that gets
edited at night gets a certain amount of time, right,
and the big games get important game you get longer.
Like usually bullet bullet points for a highlight. Everybody got
thirty seconds for one of the games they're cutting now,
(06:43):
other games get a minute. Sure, if it's a bigger game.
Sometimes the game goes crazy and it's great. You get
like a minute and a half highlight. Then they tell you,
tell you, hey, you're cutting Rangers twins. We're not running
a highlight like this game was. You know, four to one,
nothing happened, You're not going to run a highlight. So like,
but then the games that are big, you have no
choice because you know the game is big and people
(07:04):
want to see it. Like they would say, nothing happened
the first three quarters. Cut everything from what happened in
the fourth quarter. Just say hey, three nothing in the
fourth quarter. That's where we can't start there, Yes we can. Yeah,
if nothing happened, nothing happens, So we don't need the
first three quarter as long as the end is good.
So I'm hoping trying to be positive here one day
that hey, it's been a craptastic game so far. It's
(07:26):
been all, but hey we still have a quarter and
a half or maybe something good now, you know, maybe
there's a defensive touchdown. I don't know, but it's just
got a funny watching this this game, and as we
were getting ready to transition with Rob and Carry coming
out to the odd couple, Uh, they did the Hey,
(07:46):
here's the first half highlights. It was all b roll
from pregame and then the two fumbles. Yeah, not a
lot of highlights. No, not a lot of highlights.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
No, nothing, nothing going.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
So we'll keep you updated on this again. Three nothing,
Eagles with the lead. Well again, you're happy if you
have the under right now? And a half was the
over one kickout. I feel pretty good about that. Right now?
What's the new indgame over?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
I am looking it up as we speak.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Seven. That would be entertaining, no question about. Let's say
we are currently at well, actually it's not even on
my board.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
And that's how bad.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
They just decided we're done with this. They will, let
you bet it, they will. So again, we'll have more
in this game. Hopefully it gets better for all of us.
Hopefully this gets better. But big news today in the
NFL we got Jason locking Forest up and by in
about twelve minutes. With more on this, but the Giants
fire Brian Dable after blowing their lead to the Bears yesterday.
(08:41):
The Bears come from behind. It We'll have big stuff
on Caleb Williams. We got a great hot take on
Caleb Williams coming up a little bit. But Dable gets fired.
The Giants blow a ten point lead in the fourth quarter.
It's the fourth fourth quarter lead they have blown. We
watched the Bears come from behind to win twenty four
to twenty and quite honestly, I feel pretty pretty solid
(09:04):
saying this. If Brian Dabele could have done it over again,
he would have gone for the touchdown on fourth and
one from the half yard line instead of kicking a
field goal to give themselves a twenty to ten lead
in the fourth court. Probably a pretty fair bet right there.
Now here's the thing is that Dable got fired for
a lot of reasons. Right The team never got past
(09:24):
the promise that they had three and a half years ago.
When Daniel Jones had a really good last couple of
years and Dable gets the Giants to the playoffs, You're thinking, Okay,
they got it going on and Barkley's going to be
back healthy. But they never got there. And it's not
like they didn't bring in new people, try new philosophies
and looks it's not his fault. The malice neighbors is hurt,
(09:45):
not his fault. The camp Scatibo got hurt. But the
Giants had seen enough of Brian dabele led teams blowing games,
and what really came to a head. Quite honestly, you
could say it's not about that one play. It kind
of is right, because look, they had chances later on
in the game they could have they could have held on,
but you know they shanke a twenty six yard punt.
(10:07):
You know there's other things, but it all goes under
the umbrella of being the head coach. But when you're
two and seven and you have a chance to go
up two touchdowns, you have fourth and goal and you
kick a field goal to go up to okay, I
get it. But then you get a penalty that puts
the ball in the half yard line, and Brian Dables
still decided I'm gonna take the points. I'm not gonna
(10:30):
go for it to go up ten points here and
in a vacuum and in a season where maybe you're
five hundred, or you're six and four or you're seven
and three. Okay, with the team successful, he's made a
lot of good decisions. He's trusting his defense, right, that's
the real But when you're two and seven, it's why
(10:50):
are you not going for it? You're on the half
yard line. You can't get a half yard? I get,
you don't have scatterbo I get, but I get and
I get your down, you know, and Jackson Darta gotten
hurt too. I understand that. But you're on the half
yard line. You should be able to get a half
yard and if you don't get it, you don't get it.
It's not like it's gonna crush. You're two and seven.
It doesn't matter like that. That was the decision. That
(11:10):
was the final straw that told the Giants, if we
lose this game, he's gone because nothing has gotten better
and it's been a hole. It's like a big hamster
wheel that they've had. We're just running in place and
hoping that things are going to change. But that moment,
that was it simply because of the way the season
is going. It's I know it's elementary to say, well,
we're two and seven, what doesn't matter, but no, but
(11:31):
really that's it. It's two and seven. What does it matter?
Go for it, go up two touchdowns. If you don't
get it, all right, you went for it. You couldn't
do it. You shrug your shoulders. Okay, that's fine, I mean,
but the fact that they went scared at that point
that helped give the Bears a lot of momentum, telling them, okay,
you know what, Oh the Giants they're not really they're
really convinced. They've been working us for three quarters, but
they're not convinced they can they can close this thing out,
(11:53):
and that lets them back up off the mat, and
who knows what the Bears would have won, because you know,
at twenty four, maybe the Giants could have gone would
have you know, it's twenty four to twenty four at
that point, maybe, and they're going to overtime. But the
fact that he goes and gives you such a timid
response when you're two and seven and you're on the
half yard line, that's where the Giants and Joe, Shane
and Mark they said, this guy's not our guy anymore,
(12:14):
and we're sick of the blown leads, we're sick of everything.
This is the final straw. If he had done it differently,
maybe he's still the Giants head coach day. But he didn't,
and that really was it. You can't but know that
was the one thing that said, well, we're thinking, we're
thinking about okay, now we just have to do it well.
And you have a guy in the building, and you know,
the shameless Northwestern plug for Mike Kafka getting promoted. But
(12:36):
he's a guy that's been a finalist at least the
last two cycles in terms of potential head coaches. So
he gets nearly a half season to see what he
can do. Does he have any killer in steaking and
fight in him, which clearly Brian Dable had that taken
out of him the last couple of weeks. I mean
the percentage chances. I mean you're looking at win probabilities
(12:57):
of ninety six, ninety eight, ninety two whatever. I saw
one place taking the odds of them losing all three
of those games like one in sixty thousand. So you
scratch out lottery numbers. Whether that's fuzzy math or not,
I thought it was entertaining. I wasn't going to break
out the calculator for it, but you get the point.
These are almost games that are in the cooler, as
(13:21):
they say. But for Brian Dable, you know, you talk
about the recklessness to a degree of how things have
been handled with Jackson Dart probably didn't play well with
Mara and ownership as much as you know that guy
plays with his hair on fire. How many times he
been in a tent four five. You had that big
controversy of trying to cajole him out of the tent
(13:42):
a couple of weeks ago where they got fined and
it was just a terrible look for the NFL, and
you know, one that gets picked up into all the
non sports shows of hey, they talk safety, Look what
they did to this guy. So like, it's just been
a convergence of a million bad stories and here where
you have a chance to kill what was the surging
Chicago story, right, that whole narrative and at least put
(14:05):
people at at ease for a moment of all right,
there's still some fight in this squad. You let them
off the hook. You want Dennis green Man, you let
them off the hook. And that's why you're gonna be
an offensive coordator somewhere for next year. That's what's gonna happen.
There's Brian Dable like like how McDermott was frosty when
asked about it.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
I think we're.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
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Speaker 3 (16:02):
I'm standing up in the studio.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
No one's doing that because it's three nothing Eagles with
the lead over the Packers. Yeah, three might be too
many points them to overcome.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
It's true.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
The Wenbin Yama three pointer against my Bulls almost got
me stand up. We had a three pointer from Wemby
and that's just as many points we've seen tonight. Yeah,
between the Eagles and the Packers. Three nothing, headed to
the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Monday Night thriller and Week ten.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
More on this game as we continue as it merits
it if we need to, But joining us now for
all the big news in the National Football League today.
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five seven the Fan in Baltimore, Washington Post, Jay, what's happening, man?
(16:50):
I hope you had the under tonight.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Oh I didn't. They didn't go as heavy with it
as I liked, That's for damn sure. Unfortunately I had
a couple of touchdowns, Harley, So on me.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Did you have it? Did you have a one time
anytime touchdown parlay in this game?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I mean I did play Hurts at plus one thirty
five straight up and Jacob's three receptions at any time
touchdown and ain't go crazy with it? But uh yeah,
not looking good? All right?
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Well, listen, let's get to other more exciting news of
the day than what we've seen so far tonight. Look,
Brian Dable gets fired as Giants head coach not going
for it on fourth and one. Really the the cherry
on top of the sunday of the Giants blown leads
in the fourth quarter this season. When you heard that
news today, was it the right call? Should they have waited?
Speaker 2 (17:43):
What? What? What?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
What do you make of this now that you've had
a few hours to digest it?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Well, I mean, look, I run in the Washington Post
based on what I was here and he was pretty
much cooked after the Denver game. You lose game like that,
you know, on top of a couple of years, is
a pretty much object failure and losing, uh, somebody's gonna
eat it. And Mary's old school. You know, he thinks
(18:07):
he needs his GM to get him through the season,
which is kind of ridiculous. But yeah, and then you
keep bowling games in the fourth quarter and the quarterback
keeps being in the medical tent, and you know you've
got caught teering in the medical tent a few weeks
back when you had no business being there. There's just
I mean, but the optics are bad, the you know,
(18:31):
you got neighbors who you got hurt, you got Scryborrow hurt. Nothing,
that's all in the head coach, But you've got a
lot of frustration nunning there, and you've got another lost
season taking hold well before Thanksgiving. So no, I'm not
surprised that this was somebody who came into the year
(18:55):
with his job very much on the line. And there's
been some good things there for sure with the quarterback.
But you know, everybody's going to want to work with
that quarterback now, like they're gonna have plenty of people
who will look at that job as being more attractive
now that it's been in some previous cycles, specifically because
of that quarterback, and the quarterback looks pretty well developed now.
(19:17):
I don't think the idea of like Brian Gables the
only guy could get that and like stop.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah, I Jay. That's the whole thing is that I
think this is already no matter what, we see the
most attractive job of the season offseason cycle because of
Dart and Scataboo and Neighbors comes back next year. In
the defensive line, it's hey, I'm in a position to succeed.
I think you might see guys that's good that have
gigs now say hey, wait a minute, I would leave.
I want to go to the giants. What are some
(19:44):
names you wouldn't be surprised to hear, you know for
giants when when they start looking full time, unless you
know Mike Kafka reels off like seven.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Wins in a row, Well yeah, that's not gonna happen.
I mean love this. We turns through these guys so quickly.
I mean, I don't know who people would be super
fired up about right now. I don't know, you know,
like the hot coordinator thing, Like I feel like we've
kind of exalted in the they think, you know, the
(20:12):
very Sautle call him going, uh, you know, Zach Robinson
can't do anything in an oct with Atlanta, Like, I
don't know who the next guy up there would be
the group of guys who have been fired already and
are going to be fired. I don't see them getting
another chance, like Mike McCarthy. Like you look in the
gambling odds, I mean, Jason Garrett and Mike McCarthy are there,
(20:35):
Like really, what the hell? I mean? Look, does it
get bad in Pittsburgh? You know, Like is that the end?
I mean, I would think they would be Mike Tomlin
in New York. That would seem to be a perfect match.
Now again, we'll have to see how that plays out there,
and a lot of things would have to come to pass.
(20:56):
But like if you're asking me, people who could maybe
be out there, who might interest them. But I mean
if people talk about Cliff can stop, come on man,
like Ben mcado three point zero, Like, I don't know, guys,
I don't know. There's a pretty good chance if Mara
hires him, he'll stink. That's what I do know.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
There you have it.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I've seen the Lane Kiffin battle, not just for the
college range, but potentially for this one as well. His
name's been bandied about, but since you mentioned Mike Tomlin,
other than this Monday night football game, that Pittsburgh effort,
other than a bad pass to DK Metcalf that had
hope for until it left Roger's hand, was about as
(21:39):
dismal an effort as you see.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I mean, look, he's on his last legs. I mean,
he's basically cooked. And to think that now the weather
is starting to turn right and the schedules ranked up
and the deadlines pass. So it is what it is.
It's still players are still players. I think he's gonna
bring out the worst in him. It still got a
lot of division games to come, and people in this
(22:06):
division can play a little defense outside of you know, Cincinnati,
and Cincinnati still already found a way to be one
point or whatever better than them last time. So you know,
I think you're going to see the frustration boil over
you already have. I just don't you know, I don't
think he's someone at this stage of his career who
you could remotely think is going to get better as
(22:26):
the season goes on, and you need to stack wins early.
You need to get him confident, you need to be
able to incubate him. They can't play from behind at
all like that. That's if they can get thirty five
to forty run plays off some way, somehow the script
allows that, and the defense is creating turnovers on that day,
then they can win. But that's a tough needle to
(22:47):
threat and you're not going to be able to come
back on anybody with this guy who's your quarterback at
this stage of his career. You're just not. I mean,
the only time he wants to push the ball down
the field is when it's a hill Mary against the
free man rush.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
But that's it, Jay, When it comes to that division. Now,
obviously the Ravens are back in the mix. You're there
in Baltimore. The defense seems like they magically fixed itself
a couple of weeks ago. Again, what what what? What
has happened? I mean, really, as bad as it was
to begin with, I thought the season was over after
(23:20):
Week one, and now look at where they are now.
I'm knocking on the door at the top of the
division like like, like, what's happened outside of Lamar coming back,
Like what's happened? Because you know he's not making the
defense better.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Well, before we go crazy, Calele Williams far and away. Okay,
they faced Stafford. They ended up giving up seventeen there,
you know, the Rams were about to fly the long
dan like that game was over at seventeen to three.
You know, like Cooper Rush wasn't going to move the
ball at all. So if you want to give him
credit for that, like, okay, you know Adams dropped a
(23:51):
couple of touchdown passes, hurt his ankle really early in
the game, But like go look at who they play.
I mean, you know, like Bailible, you know, with JJ McCarthy,
I mean, he can't throw the ball past the line
of scrimmage. Like they're going to get Dylan Gabriel last week,
(24:12):
then they're going to get whether it's Taylor or Field
they got. You know, I think that shot a whole
lot to do with it. They don't really have a
pass rush. They've got good secondary, and they haven't really
been attacked with running backs and tight ends lately in
the past game. But I still think they're really vulnerable
(24:34):
to that. But they can get three safeties on the
field now with the Gilman trade with the Chargers, and
that allows them to keep Kyler Hamilton around the line
of scrimmage where he needs to be, and that's helping
the pass rush, that's helping the blitz, and that's helping
them knock down balls to the line of scrimmage, which
is really what's going on. Even more so than than
sacks and pressures, they've been able to disrupt the ball
(24:56):
in flight coming out of the quarterback's hands. So and
again like they're not a lot of things have booked
their way in terms of who they're facing and the
way this schedule works, and they're going to continue to
feast for a couple more weeks and we'll see. I mean,
they do this every year, like even did this under McDonald.
(25:17):
As good as us call them plays, they start slow,
they have to make some personnel adjustments, some scheme adjustments,
and then they'd be much better in the second half.
And that's certainly the case right now.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Currently minus two fifty to win the division implies a
seventy one and a half percent Pittsburgh at plus two fifty.
But now Joe Burrow is going to return plus eighteen
hundred too little, too late?
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Are just are they just talking about wishing and hoping here?
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Jay?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yeah, I don't think we're going to say until you know,
closer to mid mid December. But if we even see
him at all, because they lose three more games where
he comes back, what did you really bring it him
back for? I mean, what what is a risk reward there?
And that would be like the leading leaving Jayden Daniels
in the game the other day on steroids like that
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would be doing that on crack. You know, we've got
no offensive line, we can't stop anybody defensively. Let's let
Joe Burrow for you know, Let's let Joe Burrow come
out there, rusty in a lost, lost season and through
the ball fifty five times a game while Zach Tellen
tries to save his job. But I dare him, I
dare you to do that. I dare you.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
So, Jay, when it comes to it, when it comes
to this division now okay, because it's not now it's
gone from boy, it's so bad, it's fun. If I
said to you, what's the big thing? What do you
expect end of the year? Who winds up at the
top of this division.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I mean I think it's Baltimore. I mean they still
have five division games to play, including two with Pittsburgh.
They play Cincinnati twice in a three weeks span. Now
isn't going to be Burrow for one of those games
as a Flaco for both? I don't know, but yeah,
I mean it sets up pretty well for Baltimore. But
(27:09):
like Pittsburgh, I mean, they're never It's like it's never
over till it's over. I mean Tomains never had a
loser season. If you look at their schedule, you could
play the win lost win win lost game. But like
they'll probably beat Buffalo, you know, now, they also lose
to Cleveland. Like I I don't know, but I mean
Baltimore's closed the gap enough to now where I think
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a reasonable person would have to say the Ravens are
gonna win this division.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
He's on Twitter at Jason lock and four that is
at Jason lock and for a wanna bet Odyssey Washington
Post one oh five seven the fan in Baltimore. Jay
is always buddy, appreciate it. Hope you get more points
in the fourth quarter, so at least you didn't miss
anything while you're talking to us.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Everything is still the same about holding my breath.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
There goes Jason lock In four or I mean, look,
this is this is one of those situations where you know,
a few weeks ago it was the Ravens can't come
back here. But remember when we tell you the Steelers stink,
well the division as a whole. As much as I
love Joe Flacco, yes, the Browns off to the Jets.
That right now, if Burrow comes back Thanksgiving, I'm thinking, oh,
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maybe you never know. That's it, flood.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
But man, they're eighteen to one. Vision is eighteen to one.
If you want to go down that.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Path, we bad. It's bad, man, it's bad. But no,
it's awful, right Cleveland. Cleveland's terrible. I mean, did you
actually want to win this game? I mean, that's that's
the hard part. And you find because of the trade
already got you some picks. Yeah, I was fine when
because no matter who the if the Jets pick a quarterback,
whoever it is, it's going to be wrong. So I'd
rather almost them the pick be a little bit lower,
(28:47):
so we get like Caleb Downs. You know, maybe that'll
work and uh, and that'll be better because if we
pick a quarterback whoever we pick is wrong. So I
was absolutely okay.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Until he gets to three teams for separation.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Yeah, no, okay, Yeah, I'm completely but yeah, by odds,
they're seventy two percent favorites the Ravens to win the
division at this point. Exit out about a Fresca exit
Swelling Dome. Jason Smith Mike Harmon live from the Fox
Sports Radio studios. We have what's trending and breaking news.
Well right now from special delivery Steve de Sager, because
we have a six point touchdown in the Monday night
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football game.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
Wait a minute, six points on one night shot.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Just want to make sure people know you can get
six points on one play in the NFL. You're watching
this game. You don't know that until just now.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
There are people that pay good money for this in
Green Bay, Wisconsin, and it's about thirty degrees and the
Packers are getting shut out. With ten and a half
minutes to go, it's Eagles ten nothing now. DeVante Smith
a thirty six yard reception from Jalen Hurts. Each quarterback
had fumbled in this game. It was scoreless at halftime.
Tonight Eagles kicked a thirty nine yard field goal in
the third quarter. Now it's early in the fourth.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Now.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
On the very first drive of the night, sixteen plays
were for the Eagles. It ended in a Jalen Hurts fumble.
Each quarterback as fumbled tonight, but that was the longest
Eagles drive to end in a turnover in the last
twenty five seasons, and the fact that the Packers forced
the turnovers notable because they entered the game with the
second fewest takeaways in the league this season. By the way,
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the Eagles had scored in every first quarter this year
until tonight. Now the Bears are the only team in
the NFL to have scored in every first quarter.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Something they didn't do at all last year.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
In many quarters.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
Yes, the Packers had twenty four yards of offense in
the first quarter. By halftime, it was seven total punts
and seven penalties, the Packers going scoreless through three quarters
for the first time in two years. It's now an
Eagles ten to nothing lead at Green Bay again about
ten and a half minutes to go in this game.
(30:49):
Jordan Love ten of eighteen passing for eighty seven yards,
Jalen Hurts up to one hundred and seven sixty seven
yards passing and a touchdown, so the love Hurt game
appropriately named tonight. The Giants fired coach Brian Dable, but
general manager Joe Shane stays. The interim is now offensive
coordinator Mike Kafka. The Giants record over the past two
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and a half years eleven and thirty three, including two
and eight this season. Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow hopes to
return on Thanksgiving for a game at Baltimore. He's on
IR with a toe injury. He returned to limited practice today.
Jets wide receiver Garrett Wilson could miss at least three
to four weeks with a spring knee. Washington head coach
Dan Quinn is taking over defensive coordinator duties. Also, Commander's
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defensive lineman de Ron Payne was suspended one game for
throwing a punch yesterday to the scoreboard in the NBA
overtime at Miami. The heat of just beating Cleveland one
forty to one thirty eight, there was a lot of
NBA excitement tonight, oddly more than the NFL had to offer.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
US.
Speaker 6 (31:52):
Detroit in overtime beat Washington one thirty seven, one thirty five.
Kate Cunningham had forty six points. He was fourteen of
forty five shooting from the floor to get those forty
six points. Washington Wizards now one and ten. Lakers got
thirty eight points from Luka Donsich in a win at
Charlotte won twenty one one eleven, Lakers eight and three.
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Orlando beat Portland on a three pointer at the buzzer
by Desmond Baine. He had been five from long distance,
but one fifteen one twelve Magic the final San Antonio's
eight and two after winning at Chicago one twenty one
one seventeen. Victor Wimbanyama thirty eight points. He had twelve
rebounds and five locks as well, and nine minutes to
(32:35):
go at Dallas. The Mavericks are leading the Milwaukee Bucks
ninety four to eighty seven. The new number one team
in men's college basketball is Houston and hl Islanders won
in overtime at New Jersey, three to two. The American
League Rookie of the Year is Nick Kurtz of the A's.
He got all thirty first place votes. A shortstop Jacob
Wilson finished second, and the National League Rookie of the
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Year Braves catcher Drake Baldwin. He won twenty one votes
to nine. Finishing second was Cubs pitcher Cade Horton, who
went eleven and four.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve O. Jason Smith, Mike
Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Coming up next,
we got your play of the Day coming your way.
Plus you want a great MVP hot take, we got
one for you in the NFL. That's next right here,
Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (33:27):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. My wife. My wife just texted me, Yeah,
is there some sort of stat for the most boring
football game in history? Well, I mean we rank them,
uh one through two seventy two. I mean, by the
end of the year, you had one, we had what
we said last year, this one's two seventy You had
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won it like two seventy now that's right now, this
one's a like two seventy one. Well, but I mean
it might be ratcheting up here in the final minutes.
I mean, as long as, like we said, as long
as it's close late yep up. Jason, I don't know
if there is a list. If there is one, it's
a lot of Jets games here. Oh no, it's true. Yeah, yeah,
you see that list, like eight of the ten games
involved Jets teams. But we do want it to be
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close late. It looks like that might be the case.
Jacobs is in the end zone for the Packers their
first score of the night, extra point pending, so now
it will likely be ten to seven late in the
fourth quarter, five and a half to go. Ooh, we
got points. Well, I mean he's well over all hundred
total yards on the night. Now the touchdown, So for
fantasy purposes, you got that floor that you hit and
(34:34):
crash through that. Now let's see what we've got for
this final five to forty nine. All right, So we
got more exciting stuff coming up in a minute. But first,
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you score thirty eight points, you would think that would
be it, but no, it's the hoop that didn't count
for Luka Doncic. That's the play of the day.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Another rebounds for his sixth terrible. The Lakers call time out.
Donc fired it just because he's an inner painter.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Horne and Stevie on the call. Doncich fires it from
the Lakers free throw line. I mean it doesn't count.
But a night where he had thirty eight, he just
chucks it up from the Lakers free throw line and
he swishes it for a three that didn't count. Doesn't matter,
It doesn't matter. That's the play of the day. Do
I get to call for like a controversial thing the
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next time he misses an actual shot? Then what the hell?
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Man?
Speaker 3 (35:52):
No, man, you get hit that one without thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
You respect the MVP? Yeah? No respect that. Hey and listen,
I'm looking. I'm excited to see when On James plays
with the South Bay Lakers as it's come back all.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
How great would that be.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
It's kind of like the minor league rehab States where
the guy's gotta buy lobster and state for all the
guys that get nothing and Bro, you the minor leaguers,
what are you doing? You're on the bus, let's go.
And Bronny's like, Dad, I'm with the Lakers. You're playing
South Bay to my dad, Dad, just good luck Dad.
He's gonna cater Blaze pizza. Good luck Dad, that pizza
ain't showing up, just like he didn't. Again. It's gonna
be so awkward when lebron does return to the Lakers.
(36:27):
But how about this, You want to hot take NFL MVP? Okay,
got one for you. Drake may is near the top. Oh,
he's at the top right now. No matter where you look,
he's anywhere from first to second as the favorites. Matthew
Stafford also getting a lot of run. When you throw
four touchdowns a week for like nine weeks in a row,
you're gonna get run as MVP. But I'm going to
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give you somebody else because I want to push the
conversation forward because early on in the season, we told
you everything was gonna be fine with this guy. It's
the era of good feet and just got to sit
back and let things bake. Jonathan Taylor, right, but oh,
Jonathan Taylor's terrific. Fantasy owners really upset because they're by
a bye this week, like no, no. However, Stafford is great,
(37:14):
Drake may has played fantastic. But how about Caleb Williams MVP?
Think about it, right, come on, come on now. His
numbers are fine, you're taking me down a deep dark path.
Numbers are fine, But the MVP isn't always about the numbers.
Sometimes it is, but the fact that the Bears are
succeeding is a storyline that cuts through. We've watched Caleb
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Williams now win four last minute games by dicing up
the defense in a myriad of ways. Sometimes it's I'm
finding the right receiver on my first read. Sometimes it's
finding the right guy and a check down. Sometimes it's
scrambling for a first down. Four not four comeback wins
where oh we were down seven to six early four
last minute wins where he has rescued the Bears because
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at the end of games he's playing incredibly clutch. That's
a big number you're talking about. Half their wins was
at the end. Ken Now they're calling a unicorn now,
I mean, I mean, really, Caleb Williams has been that good.
He has been someone that he's smart with the football,
he's finding the right weapons. We told you he's going
to be a star, and now people are coming around
to that. Oh I always said, Caleb, But yeah, yeah,
(38:21):
that's great.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Listen, Remember this is why we call the show ahead
of the curve, because you're ahead of the curve. Now
he's even better than he was. Chicago is not nearly
six and three without him. If you love Drake May
for MVP, right, and I'm okay with that. If you
want to love Drake May for MVP, you gotta love
Caleb Williams more because he's pulling out games at the end.
He's winning games by himself. I can't tell you a
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lot of games Drake May is won by himself. He
has played terrific. But I can point again four to
six wins where Caleb Williams just turns to a different
guy at the end. And in a year where not
everybody is running crazy with stats, you don't have a
quarterback with thirty touchdowns at this point. Mahomes is not
having that year, Caleb Williams. Think about that and what
he's accomplished. It's a hot take, it's really not that hot.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
I'll tell you how he can win it.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Like this is where we really kick this down the
road is the fact that the Bears going forward have
the toughest strength of schedule remaining in the National Football League.
When you look at their quote easy opponents, You've got
the Vikings are listed as an easy opponent, with his
classmate JJ McCarthy leading the way, and then the Cleveland Browns. Otherwise,
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Pittsburgh still on the plus side, right, havn't fallen off altogether.
San Francisco reeling, but still they had a little fighting
him before they acquiesced. On Sunday, you got the Lions
two against the Packers and a game against Philadelphia currently
ten to seven as we are talking here at the
end of the hour one. But you look at what
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Williams has done starting to push the ball downfield last
year was really good with the touchdown to interception ratio,
but it was all a shot chart between five yards
ahead of the line, scrimmage in five yards behind it.
Not a lot of pushing the ball downfield, a lot
of sacks that he absorbed this year learning to play
coming into the week, was tied for second with the
(40:10):
most snaps in play action something Ben Johnson wanted to do.
What's he doing. He's seeing the field better, making better decisions,
not taking sacks and advancing the ball. Now, have they
had some great circumstances where it rolled up? Sure, Brian
Dable was goward, he got fired. You had the Cincinnati
Bengals three guys pinball off Loveland as he runs towards
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the end zone. All of those things. You know what,
the box scores all read the same. And where he
can take over for Drake may here in terms of
that favorite right he's at plus three hundred is the
fact that they've got the easiest strength of schedule remaking,
so they're gonna pack it stack up wins. But if
Caleb is able to do more of the same that
he's done these last couple weeks, it's going to be
a bigger and more impressive show. And in Chicago, Caleb
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Williams NFL MVP. Just think about that for a second.
That's just crazy. How about coming up next well off
more and Monday Night Football, and how about the right
guy to replace Brian Dable in New York.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Let's give this.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
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Speaker 3 (00:38):
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I didn't think I'd be sitting here in the third
(01:04):
quarter of Monday Night football saying, justin fields and the
Jets put up more points yesterday offensively, but they did
than both of these teams.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
It is zero zero.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
But wait wait, we actually have a field goal. Whoa,
oh my goodness. The Eagles have put the first points
on the board and before you're even thinking, no, it's
not snowing. It's not an incredible rainstorm. There's not been
some active God. This is not Magnolia where the frogs
start flying out everywhere. No, this is just a Monday
night football game, Philadelphia, Green Bay. It's a little chili,
(01:39):
but okay. The first points of the game on the
board in the third quarter an Eagles field goal to
make it three nothing.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Some interesting notes on this one.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
The first Monday night football game to go into halftime
scoreless since two thousand and nine. Cleveland Jets involved in
that game. They were not sure. But the Brown Oh
that makes sense, So that makes sense. Raiders, Brown's Ravens. Ah,
Brown's Raiders would be much better then. The Ravens rattled
off sixteen points, including an interception return for a touchdown.
(02:10):
That was Ray Rice and Joe Flacco's rookie year going
all the way back in the time machine. No, what
a miserable first half. I mean, the highlight was that
they called a false start on a quarterback sneak. Yeah, yeah,
that was a highlight. And that didn't call one on
a toush push where they were off to the razo
so you know, it's one of those things where like
those are the highlights and right now Jordan Love is
(02:32):
on pace to barely eclipse the passing yardage of Justin
Fields from yes to I mean, really, would you say Justin
Field's going for fifty four yards? Like, well, no one's
gonna oh no, no, no, just wait, no one's gonna
get under that. Hang on a second, judge, Yah, wait
a minute. These guys are making Aaron Rodgers look good
last night. Dude, this guy, this looks like they're making
Aaron Rodgers if he was fused with Justin Fields in
(02:54):
some sort of super quarterback, making them look like, Hey,
this is a this is an easy day for Sam Darnold.
For me, this is an easy day for me at
the top of the food chain. If I'm Patrick Mahomes, Yeah,
that was a game that I'm really glad I didn't
spend a lot of money for last night. As the
Steelers came to so far to play the Chargers. Man, look,
(03:15):
great effort, Chargers taking care of business. But I want
a game that was not a game, that was not
a game that became a scrimmage that looks like man,
that looks like rams Chiefs. You know, fifty four fifty game.
Oh no, absolutely nothing, nothing at halftime, a game that
is devoid of highlights. It's devoid of everything. Again, we're
(03:37):
the show you want to tune to because we know
bad football. Now. I know bad football better than you
because your team is actually good winning now yeah, bad football. Hey,
you know that's my wheelhouse, man. And there has nothing
been so far this year worse than this game, even
Jets thirteen eleven with the Broncos a couple of weeks ago. No, no, no, no, no, no, no,
this is worse right here. Oh no, this has just
(03:58):
been unwatchable yet chewed near scoring drives that ended with
terrible plays by their respective quarterbacks and fumbles. In the
first quarter you had literally two drives took up the
entire quarter. You just zero points. You know, I just
think about the people playing fantasy tonight and not that
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they involved, but people that are starting hurts and love yeah,
because you know, you start wide receivers and running backs.
Sometimes you have a big nights and you don't have
a big night. Obviously with the Packers wide receiver situation
week to week, it changes, right, and running the football, okay,
you know Jacobs is your guy, your thing. But on
the eagle side, Okay, I'm rolling dice with aj Brown.
I want to think Devonte Smith. Okay, Barkley is not
(04:41):
quite the same guy, but you get you get a
varying amounts, you know, from from your skill position players.
But just think about people who are playing tonight. They say, yeah,
I just need ten points out of love to win,
or I just need ten points out of jail, which
I'm gonna get in the first half. I'm worried about
it now. It's like, man, I need ten points. We're
midway through the third quarter.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Nothing.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Man, this is not good, man, not good. No, it's awful.
I mean you talk about the lost fumble points too,
So depending on your league setting, you're chasing those. But
you know, for the Packers with no craft, okay, Musgrave
steps up. But you know, every week it seems to
be a different wide receiver, so you're certainly not really
diving into that that mess for lack of a better term,
(05:24):
but you're expecting Josh Jacobs to be able to run
the ball to some level of effectiveness just thirty eight yards.
Thus far, Barkley eleven carries for forty sixty out of
fifteen yard It's like, okay, that begins it, right, Remember
going back before the bye is first one hundred yard
game of the season. Here we go and then nothing
just getting stuffed at the line. Yeah, and then Lane
Johnson has to be carted off with an ankle injury.
(05:46):
I mean, you just had one thing after another. This
is this is a bad football game. But it's the
Eagles and the Packers and they're both at the top
of the NFC, so we always have to default too.
As long as it's called it's okay, as.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Long as it's close late for our purpose. Look, we win.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
We don't need to talk about any part of this
game other than the end as long as because like,
who really three nothing mill third quarter? Yeat? Can we
just fast forward?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
This is a defensive battle. I'm really enjoying these struggles.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yeah, he didn't believe me at all.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
You know, when you want to know a funny story,
when working at ESPN, when I was at a PA
and working on Sports Center, Right, every highlight that gets
edited at night gets a certain amount of time, right,
and the big games get important game you get longer.
Like usually bullet bullet points for a highlight. Everybody got
thirty seconds for one of the games they're cutting now,
(06:43):
other games get a minute. Sure, if it's a bigger game.
Sometimes the game goes crazy and it's great. You get
like a minute and a half highlight. Then they tell you,
tell you, hey, you're cutting Rangers twins. We're not running
a highlight like this game was. You know, four to one,
nothing happened, You're not going to run a highlight. So like,
but then the games that are big, you have no
choice because you know the game is big and people
(07:04):
want to see it. Like they would say, nothing happened
the first three quarters. Cut everything from what happened in
the fourth quarter. Just say hey, three nothing in the
fourth quarter. That's where we can't start there, Yes we can. Yeah,
if nothing happened, nothing happens, So we don't need the
first three quarter as long as the end is good.
So I'm hoping trying to be positive here one day
that hey, it's been a craptastic game so far. It's
(07:26):
been all, but hey we still have a quarter and
a half or maybe something good now, you know, maybe
there's a defensive touchdown. I don't know, but it's just
got a funny watching this this game, and as we
were getting ready to transition with Rob and Carry coming
out to the odd couple, Uh, they did the Hey,
(07:46):
here's the first half highlights. It was all b roll
from pregame and then the two fumbles. Yeah, not a
lot of highlights. No, not a lot of highlights.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
No, nothing, nothing going.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
So we'll keep you updated on this again. Three nothing,
Eagles with the lead. Well again, you're happy if you
have the under right now? And a half was the
over one kickout. I feel pretty good about that. Right now?
What's the new indgame over?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
I am looking it up as we speak.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Seven. That would be entertaining, no question about. Let's say
we are currently at well, actually it's not even on
my board.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
And that's how bad.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
They just decided we're done with this. They will, let
you bet it, they will. So again, we'll have more
in this game. Hopefully it gets better for all of us.
Hopefully this gets better. But big news today in the
NFL we got Jason locking Forest up and by in
about twelve minutes. With more on this, but the Giants
fire Brian Dable after blowing their lead to the Bears yesterday.
(08:41):
The Bears come from behind. It We'll have big stuff
on Caleb Williams. We got a great hot take on
Caleb Williams coming up a little bit. But Dable gets fired.
The Giants blow a ten point lead in the fourth quarter.
It's the fourth fourth quarter lead they have blown. We
watched the Bears come from behind to win twenty four
to twenty and quite honestly, I feel pretty pretty solid
(09:04):
saying this. If Brian Dabele could have done it over again,
he would have gone for the touchdown on fourth and
one from the half yard line instead of kicking a
field goal to give themselves a twenty to ten lead
in the fourth court. Probably a pretty fair bet right there.
Now here's the thing is that Dable got fired for
a lot of reasons. Right The team never got past
(09:24):
the promise that they had three and a half years ago.
When Daniel Jones had a really good last couple of
years and Dable gets the Giants to the playoffs, You're thinking, Okay,
they got it going on and Barkley's going to be
back healthy. But they never got there. And it's not
like they didn't bring in new people, try new philosophies
and looks it's not his fault. The malice neighbors is hurt,
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not his fault. The camp Scatibo got hurt. But the
Giants had seen enough of Brian dabele led teams blowing games,
and what really came to a head. Quite honestly, you
could say it's not about that one play. It kind
of is right, because look, they had chances later on
in the game they could have they could have held on,
but you know they shanke a twenty six yard punt.
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You know there's other things, but it all goes under
the umbrella of being the head coach. But when you're
two and seven and you have a chance to go
up two touchdowns, you have fourth and goal and you
kick a field goal to go up to okay, I
get it. But then you get a penalty that puts
the ball in the half yard line, and Brian Dables
still decided I'm gonna take the points. I'm not gonna
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go for it to go up ten points here and
in a vacuum and in a season where maybe you're
five hundred, or you're six and four or you're seven
and three. Okay, with the team successful, he's made a
lot of good decisions. He's trusting his defense, right, that's
the real But when you're two and seven, it's why
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are you not going for it? You're on the half
yard line. You can't get a half yard? I get,
you don't have scatterbo I get, but I get and
I get your down, you know, and Jackson Darta gotten
hurt too. I understand that. But you're on the half
yard line. You should be able to get a half
yard and if you don't get it, you don't get it.
It's not like it's gonna crush. You're two and seven.
It doesn't matter like that. That was the decision. That
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was the final straw that told the Giants, if we
lose this game, he's gone because nothing has gotten better
and it's been a hole. It's like a big hamster
wheel that they've had. We're just running in place and
hoping that things are going to change. But that moment,
that was it simply because of the way the season
is going. It's I know it's elementary to say, well,
we're two and seven, what doesn't matter, but no, but
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really that's it. It's two and seven. What does it matter?
Go for it, go up two touchdowns. If you don't
get it, all right, you went for it. You couldn't
do it. You shrug your shoulders. Okay, that's fine, I mean,
but the fact that they went scared at that point
that helped give the Bears a lot of momentum, telling them, okay,
you know what, Oh the Giants they're not really they're
really convinced. They've been working us for three quarters, but
they're not convinced they can they can close this thing out,
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and that lets them back up off the mat, and
who knows what the Bears would have won, because you know,
at twenty four, maybe the Giants could have gone would
have you know, it's twenty four to twenty four at
that point, maybe, and they're going to overtime. But the
fact that he goes and gives you such a timid
response when you're two and seven and you're on the
half yard line, that's where the Giants and Joe, Shane
and Mark they said, this guy's not our guy anymore,
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and we're sick of the blown leads, we're sick of everything.
This is the final straw. If he had done it differently,
maybe he's still the Giants head coach day. But he didn't,
and that really was it. You can't but know that
was the one thing that said, well, we're thinking, we're
thinking about okay, now we just have to do it well.
And you have a guy in the building, and you know,
the shameless Northwestern plug for Mike Kafka getting promoted. But
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he's a guy that's been a finalist at least the
last two cycles in terms of potential head coaches. So
he gets nearly a half season to see what he
can do. Does he have any killer in steaking and
fight in him, which clearly Brian Dable had that taken
out of him the last couple of weeks. I mean
the percentage chances. I mean you're looking at win probabilities
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of ninety six, ninety eight, ninety two whatever. I saw
one place taking the odds of them losing all three
of those games like one in sixty thousand. So you
scratch out lottery numbers. Whether that's fuzzy math or not,
I thought it was entertaining. I wasn't going to break
out the calculator for it, but you get the point.
These are almost games that are in the cooler, as
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they say. But for Brian Dable, you know, you talk
about the recklessness to a degree of how things have
been handled with Jackson Dart probably didn't play well with
Mara and ownership as much as you know that guy
plays with his hair on fire. How many times he
been in a tent four five. You had that big
controversy of trying to cajole him out of the tent
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a couple of weeks ago where they got fined and
it was just a terrible look for the NFL, and
you know, one that gets picked up into all the
non sports shows of hey, they talk safety, Look what
they did to this guy. So like, it's just been
a convergence of a million bad stories and here where
you have a chance to kill what was the surging
Chicago story, right, that whole narrative and at least put
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people at at ease for a moment of all right,
there's still some fight in this squad. You let them
off the hook. You want Dennis green Man, you let
them off the hook. And that's why you're gonna be
an offensive coordator somewhere for next year. That's what's gonna happen.
There's Brian Dable like like how McDermott was frosty when
asked about it.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
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Speaker 1 (16:04):
No one's doing that because it's three nothing Eagles with
the lead over the Packers. Yeah, three might be too
many points them to overcome.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
It's true.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
The Wenbin Yama three pointer against my Bulls almost got
me stand up. We had a three pointer from Wemby
and that's just as many points we've seen tonight. Yeah,
between the Eagles and the Packers. Three nothing, headed to
the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Monday Night thriller and Week ten.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
More on this game as we continue as it merits
it if we need to, But joining us now for
all the big news in the National Football League today.
Longtime NFL insider, he's on Twitter at Jason lock and
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five seven the Fan in Baltimore, Washington Post, Jay, what's happening, man?
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I hope you had the under tonight.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Oh I didn't. They didn't go as heavy with it
as I liked, That's for damn sure. Unfortunately I had
a couple of touchdowns, Harley, So on me.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Did you have it? Did you have a one time
anytime touchdown parlay in this game?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I mean I did play Hurts at plus one thirty
five straight up and Jacob's three receptions at any time
touchdown and ain't go crazy with it? But uh yeah,
not looking good? All right?
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Well, listen, let's get to other more exciting news of
the day than what we've seen so far tonight. Look,
Brian Dable gets fired as Giants head coach not going
for it on fourth and one. Really the the cherry
on top of the sunday of the Giants blown leads
in the fourth quarter this season. When you heard that
news today, was it the right call? Should they have waited?
Speaker 2 (17:43):
What? What? What?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
What do you make of this now that you've had
a few hours to digest it?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Well, I mean, look, I run in the Washington Post
based on what I was here and he was pretty
much cooked after the Denver game. You lose game like that,
you know, on top of a couple of years, is
a pretty much object failure and losing, uh, somebody's gonna
eat it. And Mary's old school. You know, he thinks
(18:07):
he needs his GM to get him through the season,
which is kind of ridiculous. But yeah, and then you
keep bowling games in the fourth quarter and the quarterback
keeps being in the medical tent, and you know you've
got caught teering in the medical tent a few weeks
back when you had no business being there. There's just
I mean, but the optics are bad, the you know,
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you got neighbors who you got hurt, you got Scryborrow hurt. Nothing,
that's all in the head coach, But you've got a
lot of frustration nunning there, and you've got another lost
season taking hold well before Thanksgiving. So no, I'm not
surprised that this was somebody who came into the year
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with his job very much on the line. And there's
been some good things there for sure with the quarterback.
But you know, everybody's going to want to work with
that quarterback now, like they're gonna have plenty of people
who will look at that job as being more attractive
now that it's been in some previous cycles, specifically because
of that quarterback, and the quarterback looks pretty well developed now.
(19:17):
I don't think the idea of like Brian Gables the
only guy could get that and like stop.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah, I Jay. That's the whole thing is that I
think this is already no matter what, we see the
most attractive job of the season offseason cycle because of
Dart and Scataboo and Neighbors comes back next year. In
the defensive line, it's hey, I'm in a position to succeed.
I think you might see guys that's good that have
gigs now say hey, wait a minute, I would leave.
I want to go to the giants. What are some
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names you wouldn't be surprised to hear, you know for
giants when when they start looking full time, unless you
know Mike Kafka reels off like seven.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Wins in a row, Well yeah, that's not gonna happen.
I mean love this. We turns through these guys so quickly.
I mean, I don't know who people would be super
fired up about right now. I don't know, you know,
like the hot coordinator thing, Like I feel like we've
kind of exalted in the they think, you know, the
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very Sautle call him going, uh, you know, Zach Robinson
can't do anything in an oct with Atlanta, Like, I
don't know who the next guy up there would be
the group of guys who have been fired already and
are going to be fired. I don't see them getting
another chance, like Mike McCarthy. Like you look in the
gambling odds, I mean, Jason Garrett and Mike McCarthy are there,
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Like really, what the hell? I mean? Look, does it
get bad in Pittsburgh? You know, Like is that the end?
I mean, I would think they would be Mike Tomlin
in New York. That would seem to be a perfect match.
Now again, we'll have to see how that plays out there,
and a lot of things would have to come to pass.
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But like if you're asking me, people who could maybe
be out there, who might interest them. But I mean
if people talk about Cliff can stop, come on man,
like Ben mcado three point zero, Like, I don't know, guys,
I don't know. There's a pretty good chance if Mara
hires him, he'll stink. That's what I do know.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
There you have it.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I've seen the Lane Kiffin battle, not just for the
college range, but potentially for this one as well. His
name's been bandied about, but since you mentioned Mike Tomlin,
other than this Monday night football game, that Pittsburgh effort,
other than a bad pass to DK Metcalf that had
hope for until it left Roger's hand, was about as
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dismal an effort as you see.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I mean, look, he's on his last legs. I mean,
he's basically cooked. And to think that now the weather
is starting to turn right and the schedules ranked up
and the deadlines pass. So it is what it is.
It's still players are still players. I think he's gonna
bring out the worst in him. It still got a
lot of division games to come, and people in this
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division can play a little defense outside of you know, Cincinnati,
and Cincinnati still already found a way to be one
point or whatever better than them last time. So you know,
I think you're going to see the frustration boil over
you already have. I just don't you know, I don't
think he's someone at this stage of his career who
you could remotely think is going to get better as
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the season goes on, and you need to stack wins early.
You need to get him confident, you need to be
able to incubate him. They can't play from behind at
all like that. That's if they can get thirty five
to forty run plays off some way, somehow the script
allows that, and the defense is creating turnovers on that day,
then they can win. But that's a tough needle to
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threat and you're not going to be able to come
back on anybody with this guy who's your quarterback at
this stage of his career. You're just not. I mean,
the only time he wants to push the ball down
the field is when it's a hill Mary against the
free man rush.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
But that's it, Jay, When it comes to that division. Now,
obviously the Ravens are back in the mix. You're there
in Baltimore. The defense seems like they magically fixed itself
a couple of weeks ago. Again, what what what? What
has happened? I mean, really, as bad as it was
to begin with, I thought the season was over after
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Week one, and now look at where they are now.
I'm knocking on the door at the top of the
division like like, like, what's happened outside of Lamar coming back,
Like what's happened? Because you know he's not making the
defense better.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Well, before we go crazy, Calele Williams far and away. Okay,
they faced Stafford. They ended up giving up seventeen there,
you know, the Rams were about to fly the long
dan like that game was over at seventeen to three.
You know, like Cooper Rush wasn't going to move the
ball at all. So if you want to give him
credit for that, like, okay, you know Adams dropped a
(23:51):
couple of touchdown passes, hurt his ankle really early in
the game, But like go look at who they play.
I mean, you know, like Bailible, you know, with JJ McCarthy,
I mean, he can't throw the ball past the line
of scrimmage. Like they're going to get Dylan Gabriel last week,
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then they're going to get whether it's Taylor or Field
they got. You know, I think that shot a whole
lot to do with it. They don't really have a
pass rush. They've got good secondary, and they haven't really
been attacked with running backs and tight ends lately in
the past game. But I still think they're really vulnerable
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to that. But they can get three safeties on the
field now with the Gilman trade with the Chargers, and
that allows them to keep Kyler Hamilton around the line
of scrimmage where he needs to be, and that's helping
the pass rush, that's helping the blitz, and that's helping
them knock down balls to the line of scrimmage, which
is really what's going on. Even more so than than
sacks and pressures, they've been able to disrupt the ball
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in flight coming out of the quarterback's hands. So and
again like they're not a lot of things have booked
their way in terms of who they're facing and the
way this schedule works, and they're going to continue to
feast for a couple more weeks and we'll see. I mean,
they do this every year, like even did this under McDonald.
(25:17):
As good as us call them plays, they start slow,
they have to make some personnel adjustments, some scheme adjustments,
and then they'd be much better in the second half.
And that's certainly the case right now.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Currently minus two fifty to win the division implies a
seventy one and a half percent Pittsburgh at plus two fifty.
But now Joe Burrow is going to return plus eighteen
hundred too little, too late?
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Are just are they just talking about wishing and hoping here?
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Jay?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yeah, I don't think we're going to say until you know,
closer to mid mid December. But if we even see
him at all, because they lose three more games where
he comes back, what did you really bring it him
back for? I mean, what what is a risk reward there?
And that would be like the leading leaving Jayden Daniels
in the game the other day on steroids like that
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would be doing that on crack. You know, we've got
no offensive line, we can't stop anybody defensively. Let's let
Joe Burrow for you know, Let's let Joe Burrow come
out there, rusty in a lost, lost season and through
the ball fifty five times a game while Zach Tellen
tries to save his job. But I dare him, I
dare you to do that. I dare you.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
So, Jay, when it comes to it, when it comes
to this division now okay, because it's not now it's
gone from boy, it's so bad, it's fun. If I
said to you, what's the big thing? What do you
expect end of the year? Who winds up at the
top of this division.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I mean I think it's Baltimore. I mean they still
have five division games to play, including two with Pittsburgh.
They play Cincinnati twice in a three weeks span. Now
isn't going to be Burrow for one of those games
as a Flaco for both? I don't know, but yeah,
I mean it sets up pretty well for Baltimore. But
(27:09):
like Pittsburgh, I mean, they're never It's like it's never
over till it's over. I mean Tomains never had a
loser season. If you look at their schedule, you could
play the win lost win win lost game. But like
they'll probably beat Buffalo, you know, now, they also lose
to Cleveland. Like I I don't know, but I mean
Baltimore's closed the gap enough to now where I think
(27:32):
a reasonable person would have to say the Ravens are
gonna win this division.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
He's on Twitter at Jason lock and four that is
at Jason lock and for a wanna bet Odyssey Washington
Post one oh five seven the fan in Baltimore. Jay
is always buddy, appreciate it. Hope you get more points
in the fourth quarter, so at least you didn't miss
anything while you're talking to us.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Everything is still the same about holding my breath.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
There goes Jason lock In four or I mean, look,
this is this is one of those situations where you know,
a few weeks ago it was the Ravens can't come
back here. But remember when we tell you the Steelers stink,
well the division as a whole. As much as I
love Joe Flacco, yes, the Browns off to the Jets.
That right now, if Burrow comes back Thanksgiving, I'm thinking, oh,
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maybe you never know. That's it, flood.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
But man, they're eighteen to one. Vision is eighteen to one.
If you want to go down that.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Path, we bad. It's bad, man, it's bad. But no,
it's awful, right Cleveland. Cleveland's terrible. I mean, did you
actually want to win this game? I mean, that's that's
the hard part. And you find because of the trade
already got you some picks. Yeah, I was fine when
because no matter who the if the Jets pick a quarterback,
whoever it is, it's going to be wrong. So I'd
rather almost them the pick be a little bit lower,
(28:47):
so we get like Caleb Downs. You know, maybe that'll
work and uh, and that'll be better because if we
pick a quarterback whoever we pick is wrong. So I
was absolutely okay.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Until he gets to three teams for separation.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Yeah, no, okay, Yeah, I'm completely but yeah, by odds,
they're seventy two percent favorites the Ravens to win the
division at this point. Exit out about a Fresca exit
Swelling Dome. Jason Smith Mike Harmon live from the Fox
Sports Radio studios. We have what's trending and breaking news.
Well right now from special delivery Steve de Sager, because
we have a six point touchdown in the Monday night
(29:22):
football game.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
Wait a minute, six points on one night shot.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Just want to make sure people know you can get
six points on one play in the NFL. You're watching
this game. You don't know that until just now.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
There are people that pay good money for this in
Green Bay, Wisconsin, and it's about thirty degrees and the
Packers are getting shut out. With ten and a half
minutes to go, it's Eagles ten nothing now. DeVante Smith
a thirty six yard reception from Jalen Hurts. Each quarterback
had fumbled in this game. It was scoreless at halftime.
Tonight Eagles kicked a thirty nine yard field goal in
the third quarter. Now it's early in the fourth.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Now.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
On the very first drive of the night, sixteen plays
were for the Eagles. It ended in a Jalen Hurts fumble.
Each quarterback as fumbled tonight, but that was the longest
Eagles drive to end in a turnover in the last
twenty five seasons, and the fact that the Packers forced
the turnovers notable because they entered the game with the
second fewest takeaways in the league this season. By the way,
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the Eagles had scored in every first quarter this year
until tonight. Now the Bears are the only team in
the NFL to have scored in every first quarter.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Something they didn't do at all last year.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
In many quarters.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
Yes, the Packers had twenty four yards of offense in
the first quarter. By halftime, it was seven total punts
and seven penalties, the Packers going scoreless through three quarters
for the first time in two years. It's now an
Eagles ten to nothing lead at Green Bay again about
ten and a half minutes to go in this game.
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Jordan Love ten of eighteen passing for eighty seven yards,
Jalen Hurts up to one hundred and seven sixty seven
yards passing and a touchdown, so the love Hurt game
appropriately named tonight. The Giants fired coach Brian Dable, but
general manager Joe Shane stays. The interim is now offensive
coordinator Mike Kafka. The Giants record over the past two
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and a half years eleven and thirty three, including two
and eight this season. Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow hopes to
return on Thanksgiving for a game at Baltimore. He's on
IR with a toe injury. He returned to limited practice today.
Jets wide receiver Garrett Wilson could miss at least three
to four weeks with a spring knee. Washington head coach
Dan Quinn is taking over defensive coordinator duties. Also, Commander's
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defensive lineman de Ron Payne was suspended one game for
throwing a punch yesterday to the scoreboard in the NBA
overtime at Miami. The heat of just beating Cleveland one
forty to one thirty eight, there was a lot of
NBA excitement tonight, oddly more than the NFL had to offer.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
US.
Speaker 6 (31:52):
Detroit in overtime beat Washington one thirty seven, one thirty five.
Kate Cunningham had forty six points. He was fourteen of
forty five shooting from the floor to get those forty
six points. Washington Wizards now one and ten. Lakers got
thirty eight points from Luka Donsich in a win at
Charlotte won twenty one one eleven, Lakers eight and three.
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Orlando beat Portland on a three pointer at the buzzer
by Desmond Baine. He had been five from long distance,
but one fifteen one twelve Magic the final San Antonio's
eight and two after winning at Chicago one twenty one
one seventeen. Victor Wimbanyama thirty eight points. He had twelve
rebounds and five locks as well, and nine minutes to
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go at Dallas. The Mavericks are leading the Milwaukee Bucks
ninety four to eighty seven. The new number one team
in men's college basketball is Houston and hl Islanders won
in overtime at New Jersey, three to two. The American
League Rookie of the Year is Nick Kurtz of the A's.
He got all thirty first place votes. A shortstop Jacob
Wilson finished second, and the National League Rookie of the
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Year Braves catcher Drake Baldwin. He won twenty one votes
to nine. Finishing second was Cubs pitcher Cade Horton, who
went eleven and four.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve O. Jason Smith, Mike
Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Coming up next,
we got your play of the Day coming your way.
Plus you want a great MVP hot take, we got
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Speaker 3 (33:20):
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Speaker 1 (33:27):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. My wife. My wife just texted me, Yeah,
is there some sort of stat for the most boring
football game in history? Well, I mean we rank them,
uh one through two seventy two. I mean, by the
end of the year, you had one, we had what
we said last year, this one's two seventy You had
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won it like two seventy now that's right now, this
one's a like two seventy one. Well, but I mean
it might be ratcheting up here in the final minutes.
I mean, as long as, like we said, as long
as it's close late yep up. Jason, I don't know
if there is a list. If there is one, it's
a lot of Jets games here. Oh no, it's true. Yeah, yeah,
you see that list, like eight of the ten games
involved Jets teams. But we do want it to be
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close late. It looks like that might be the case.
Jacobs is in the end zone for the Packers their
first score of the night, extra point pending, so now
it will likely be ten to seven late in the
fourth quarter, five and a half to go. Ooh, we
got points. Well, I mean he's well over all hundred
total yards on the night. Now the touchdown, So for
fantasy purposes, you got that floor that you hit and
(34:34):
crash through that. Now let's see what we've got for
this final five to forty nine. All right, So we
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you score thirty eight points, you would think that would
be it, but no, it's the hoop that didn't count
for Luka Doncic. That's the play of the day.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Another rebounds for his sixth terrible. The Lakers call time out.
Donc fired it just because he's an inner painter.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Horne and Stevie on the call. Doncich fires it from
the Lakers free throw line. I mean it doesn't count.
But a night where he had thirty eight, he just
chucks it up from the Lakers free throw line and
he swishes it for a three that didn't count. Doesn't matter,
It doesn't matter. That's the play of the day. Do
I get to call for like a controversial thing the
(35:48):
next time he misses an actual shot? Then what the hell?
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Man?
Speaker 3 (35:52):
No, man, you get hit that one without thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
You respect the MVP? Yeah? No respect that. Hey and listen,
I'm looking. I'm excited to see when On James plays
with the South Bay Lakers as it's come back all.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
How great would that be.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
It's kind of like the minor league rehab States where
the guy's gotta buy lobster and state for all the
guys that get nothing and Bro, you the minor leaguers,
what are you doing? You're on the bus, let's go.
And Bronny's like, Dad, I'm with the Lakers. You're playing
South Bay to my dad, Dad, just good luck Dad.
He's gonna cater Blaze pizza. Good luck Dad, that pizza
ain't showing up, just like he didn't. Again. It's gonna
be so awkward when lebron does return to the Lakers.
(36:27):
But how about this, You want to hot take NFL MVP? Okay,
got one for you. Drake may is near the top. Oh,
he's at the top right now. No matter where you look,
he's anywhere from first to second as the favorites. Matthew
Stafford also getting a lot of run. When you throw
four touchdowns a week for like nine weeks in a row,
you're gonna get run as MVP. But I'm going to
(36:50):
give you somebody else because I want to push the
conversation forward because early on in the season, we told
you everything was gonna be fine with this guy. It's
the era of good feet and just got to sit
back and let things bake. Jonathan Taylor, right, but oh,
Jonathan Taylor's terrific. Fantasy owners really upset because they're by
a bye this week, like no, no. However, Stafford is great,
(37:14):
Drake may has played fantastic. But how about Caleb Williams MVP?
Think about it, right, come on, come on now. His
numbers are fine, you're taking me down a deep dark path.
Numbers are fine, But the MVP isn't always about the numbers.
Sometimes it is, but the fact that the Bears are
succeeding is a storyline that cuts through. We've watched Caleb
(37:37):
Williams now win four last minute games by dicing up
the defense in a myriad of ways. Sometimes it's I'm
finding the right receiver on my first read. Sometimes it's
finding the right guy and a check down. Sometimes it's
scrambling for a first down. Four not four comeback wins
where oh we were down seven to six early four
last minute wins where he has rescued the Bears because
(38:00):
at the end of games he's playing incredibly clutch. That's
a big number you're talking about. Half their wins was
at the end. Ken Now they're calling a unicorn now,
I mean, I mean, really, Caleb Williams has been that good.
He has been someone that he's smart with the football,
he's finding the right weapons. We told you he's going
to be a star, and now people are coming around
to that. Oh I always said, Caleb, But yeah, yeah,
(38:21):
that's great.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Listen, Remember this is why we call the show ahead
of the curve, because you're ahead of the curve. Now
he's even better than he was. Chicago is not nearly
six and three without him. If you love Drake May
for MVP, right, and I'm okay with that. If you
want to love Drake May for MVP, you gotta love
Caleb Williams more because he's pulling out games at the end.
He's winning games by himself. I can't tell you a
(38:42):
lot of games Drake May is won by himself. He
has played terrific. But I can point again four to
six wins where Caleb Williams just turns to a different
guy at the end. And in a year where not
everybody is running crazy with stats, you don't have a
quarterback with thirty touchdowns at this point. Mahomes is not
having that year, Caleb Williams. Think about that and what
he's accomplished. It's a hot take, it's really not that hot.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
I'll tell you how he can win it.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Like this is where we really kick this down the
road is the fact that the Bears going forward have
the toughest strength of schedule remaining in the National Football League.
When you look at their quote easy opponents, You've got
the Vikings are listed as an easy opponent, with his
classmate JJ McCarthy leading the way, and then the Cleveland Browns. Otherwise,
(39:28):
Pittsburgh still on the plus side, right, havn't fallen off altogether.
San Francisco reeling, but still they had a little fighting
him before they acquiesced. On Sunday, you got the Lions
two against the Packers and a game against Philadelphia currently
ten to seven as we are talking here at the
end of the hour one. But you look at what
(39:49):
Williams has done starting to push the ball downfield last
year was really good with the touchdown to interception ratio,
but it was all a shot chart between five yards
ahead of the line, scrimmage in five yards behind it.
Not a lot of pushing the ball downfield, a lot
of sacks that he absorbed this year learning to play
coming into the week, was tied for second with the
(40:10):
most snaps in play action something Ben Johnson wanted to do.
What's he doing. He's seeing the field better, making better decisions,
not taking sacks and advancing the ball. Now, have they
had some great circumstances where it rolled up? Sure, Brian
Dable was goward, he got fired. You had the Cincinnati
Bengals three guys pinball off Loveland as he runs towards
(40:32):
the end zone. All of those things. You know what,
the box scores all read the same. And where he
can take over for Drake may here in terms of
that favorite right he's at plus three hundred is the
fact that they've got the easiest strength of schedule remaking,
so they're gonna pack it stack up wins. But if
Caleb is able to do more of the same that
he's done these last couple weeks, it's going to be
a bigger and more impressive show. And in Chicago, Caleb
(40:55):
Williams NFL MVP. Just think about that for a second.
That's just crazy. How about coming up next well off
more and Monday Night Football, and how about the right
guy to replace Brian Dable in New York.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Sell Sell, sell
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