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November 14, 2025 40 mins

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon are LIVE breaking down Thursday Night Football between the Jets and Patriots Will this be the easiest night Drake Maye will ever have in his NFL career? Plus, we get to the bottom of all the Paul Skenes/Yankees rumors!

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Thursday Night Football, Please watch Anyway. The Patriots lead the
Jets fourteen to seven. Early in the third quarter. Patriots

(01:09):
have the football. The Jets offense, after an incredibly physical
and tough first drive, has done absolutely nothing, and the Patriots,
with two Treveon Henderson touchdowns, have a seven point lead.
It feels a lot bigger, mainly because Justin Fields is
playing quarterback for the New York Jets.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Seventy two yards on that opening drive over eight minutes
he elapsed and seventy two yards. I mean, that was
a lot of offense. You had what twenty four passing
yards at halftime.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
You know, you laugh when I said at the beginning
of the year, Justin Field is gonna run for a
thousand yards and throw for a thousand yards?

Speaker 3 (01:48):
You laugh? You really meant not at least one thousand yards,
that he was going to creep towards that end.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Was gonna finish around one thousand at the end of
the year. You would say, hey, thousand.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Fifty yards shadowm like, of course, no, that makes sense.
So look at him running for a thousand yards. Great
an eleven hundred yards passing. But what we didn't realize
was that's what you were really getting at, was that
it was going to be a fight to get to
the thousand yards passing.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
But look, it's gonna be a fight for Fields to
get to one hundred yards pass every week. Is a
fight that should always be the over under for Justin Fields.
Yards passing in all, one hundred, yeah, one hundred to
put it in perspective.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Right now, as we sit here, it's nine minutes left
here in the third quarter, Patriots on the march trying
to add to that seven point lead. The Jets have
one hundred and twenty two yards of offense total. Now,
we've had a couple of really bad penalties. That intentional
grounding call to where he threw it to an open

(02:45):
space of about fifty yards sideline to sideline, that was
that was great, But again, seventy two yards on the
opening drive.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Fifty Yeah, fifth, Mike, it's actually minus one two.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Oh did I miss that? It wasn't in parentheses, so
I wasn't. I missed the notation.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
And now, so that's the offensive side of the ball
for the Jets. Defensively, they are gonna send Drake May
to the Hall of Fame after this game. I believe
he's got two incomplete passes. One should have been picked off.
Every single play is wide open. There's not a lot
of plays where he's got to throw the ball in
tight windows. And yes, it's gonna be tonight. I can

(03:26):
feel the narrative of oh, of course he's the MVP.
Look at what he did tonight. The Jets defense stinks.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
Eighteen to twenty two here on the second in goal.
It's absolutely terrible.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
They can't cover Mac Collins, they can't cover Pop Douglas,
they can't cover Stefan Dicks, they can't cover Hunter.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
They can't do Daddy Stefan Diggs.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
They can't there's a lot of jokes there. There's a
lot of joke ahead. Okay, they can't cover anybody. All
Drake may have to do is by time and someone
is open, the Jets can't get to him. He just
throws a touchdown past the Trevion Henderson after I said
exactly what he does. I'm going to buy time and
someone's gonna eventually break wide open like it is. This
is this is one of those college stat games where

(04:07):
where Texas plays Miami of Ohio.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
You could just take one of those SNC games that's
coming up, what is it next week? Or they play
all the directionals, Yeah, and secondary schools.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
It's it's it's them, it's them playing it's Texas playing
Georgia Southern, and Arch Manning has said, well, this is
going to be three hundred yards and four touchdowns in
the first half, like it's it's a stat game. With
what Drake May and what the Patriots offense is doing
right now. None of these games, none of these weapons
they have are are really good. None of them are.
But the Jets again, they can't stay when these guys
are Jag wide receivers. They're all just Jags and they're

(04:42):
all wide open. It's the easiest game Drake May has
had in his NFL career, and it's just going to
continue to get easier. At twenty one seven now early
still early, unfortunately for the Jets. Garrett Wilson, as many
as I have tonight, he's got as many as you.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
And your leading receiver Jets two catches twelve yards for
Mason Taylor. Yeah, but going back to the Drake man, mean,
do you take some consolation that you've at least hit
him a couple of times?

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yay, yay?

Speaker 3 (05:11):
And how many turnovers have you guys forced out of
the year? Is it one?

Speaker 1 (05:15):
You watch the play at the end of the first
half where May throws his worst pass of the game
and the Jets should pick it off with the goal line,
except two players run into each other and the ball
falls incomplete. You wonder why week eleven the Jets still
don't have an interception, which doesn't seem like it should
be mathematically possible. But they have one turnover all year

(05:35):
and one one fumble recovery, zero interceptions week eleven.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
Not one Hail Mary at the end of the half.
That what no zero?

Speaker 1 (05:44):
And they've and they've not They've played some quarterbacks man
that they say, hey, take the football from me, Man,
take the football. Not one takeaway defensively via the air
for the Jets this year, not one.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Truly impressive though, to go that far and have one turnover,
cause the next you got three teams that have only
actually generated six. If we have six, maybe we're five hundred. Washington,
the Giants and the Packers have only generated six. Journey sick.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
I can't imagine what life is like for a team
that generates six turnovers. Bears lead the league with twenty.
You must feel like you get one. Every other players
have six.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
No, but that's the one. I mean, the Bears with
their twenty, it's like there it is. It's Lovey Smith,
It's that Super Bowl run with Rex Grossman all those
years ago. But watching the Jets, I mean, I don't
know how many times I've ever seen a defensive play
where a bunch of flags come out. It's like illegal
contact on three different guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well yeah,
the hell do you do that? And he did it,

(06:39):
and he did it he and the ball was still complete.
We declined the penalty. It's twenty one to seven.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
And because I'll give you a big take coming up here,
twenty one seven the game, Well, no it's not big,
that's obvious. Captains big after that one with A with
a with a fourteenth point deficit and the lack of
ways the Jets can move the football, this game is over.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Now for the Patriots, like I said, it's a stat game,
it's a pr game for them, it's a it's a
it's a game they play where afterwards everybody pats them
on the back and they say, hey, tie for the
best record in football. Now you know, only two losses
in the AFC. Look where you are, Look how good
you are? Look how good Drake may is Traveon Henderson's
becoming a star. Three touchdowns tonight, Mike Rabel, we do

(07:24):
I do have some legit stuff on Mike Grabel.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Well, we just got to see him catching passes against
the Jets from two thousand and five.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
But this is a pr game for the Patriots where hey, afterwards,
everybody can talk and talk about how great we are.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Sure a standalone game against the Jets division where sometimes
weird things happen. It's like you had that opening drive. Yeah,
for a moment, I got excitable. It's like it's like.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
When it when a college team has their their yearly scrimmage,
and no matter what, it's a celebration of the team.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Like that's what tonight is.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
It's a celebration Patriots.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
We're good now. But here's the other part.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Okay, okay, Now, the flip side of it is this,
And I've said this because the job has been too
much for Aaron Glenn. And I've said from the beginning
he's in over his head with this. And I'll go
back to the beginning of the year where he doesn't
throw the ball for Hail Mary's and have the ball
at midfield at at the end of the half. His
game management decision questionable at best. Dancing on the sideline

(08:18):
when you score a touchdown when there's still two minutes
left in the game, like the game's not over. That's
bad stuff, right. That tells me, Hey, Aaron Glenn really
doesn't get what it needs to be a head coach.
But give him some time, right, give them time to
get through. Here's the Jets at Week eleven. Outside of
special teams, which the Jets special teams are actually really good,
top three unit.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
In the league.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
There is nothing that Aaron Glenn has presided over that
has made the Jets better since he took over. The
offense is terrible. The decision making in bringing in Justin
Fields for this offense has been terrible. When you have
games where you repeatedly can't even get to two hundred
yards total, that's a disaster. This was a top five defense.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Coming into the year.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
They have playmakers on that team, whether it was Williams
before he got traded, saus Garter before he got traded,
will McDonald, Jermaine Johnson, like, they had some dudes on
that defensive line. And Aaron Glenn is a defensive coach,
and the Jets defense is awful, right. They can't stop anybody,
and they got to the point where we're gonna trade
away our best defensive players. So I've told you from
the beginning, Aaron Glenn is gonna be one and done

(09:20):
with the Jets. Now, when we get to the deadline,
it seemed like Aaron Glenn had the backing of Woody Johnson.
But I'm gonna sit here and say, yeah, I think
at the end of the season when you're picking really
high and you need a quarterback, and he did, offensive coach,
go get Lincoln Riley, buy him out. And he did
offensive coach because you're gonna have Nana Mendoza, or you're
gonna have Dante Moore or somebody else. You need somebody
that's gonna be able to take the Jets into the

(09:41):
next era of football and not this ridiculous nineteen forties
offense that you've been seeing, where it's gonna run the
football every single play. Aaron Glenn should be replaced after
this season because the job is too much for him,
but mainly because going forward, everything he has touched has
been bad, and not that I expected all of a
sudden he's gonna come in and work wonders. But we've

(10:02):
seen where good coaches come in and the team doesn't
get worse before it gets better. Those days of hey,
we really gotta take it all down to the studs
before you get better, those days are gone, man, those
days are gone. Now we're expected, oh hey, we're gonna
start winning so many games, but be a little bit
more competitive, not blow leads, be able to have an
offense that that looks like it's it's a modern day
type offense. Nothing nothing they have done, Nothing he has done,

(10:24):
he has put his fingerprints on, has.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Improved the team at all.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
And now with all these draft picks and all these picks,
and you got to get better offensively. You need a quarterback, right,
you need that offensive mind to come in and run things.
You need a Ben Johnson or, like I keep saying,
Lincoln Riley, because Woody Johnson, spend some of that money,
get him out. USC will be happy to let him go.

(10:49):
Like that's the next thing. That's exactly what they need.
And I know it's hard in the NFL to say,
well the guys want and done. Yeah, Aaron Glenn's supposed
to be a culture center. What are we still seeing?
Bad penalties? First drive of the game for the Patriots,
the Jets force him into a third and two. What
happens on sportsmanlike conduct penalty gives the Patriots a first down.
Fifteen yard penalties the Jets still commit. They're still one

(11:10):
of the most penalized teams in the NFL. They still
commit bad penalties. He's not been able to get through
with that. This is this is a team that I
don't know what they're trying to be other than we're
playing out the schedule. And can I trust that Aaron
Glenn is the guy that's that's that's there to take
the Jets and actually make them good again. It's been
fifteen years a suckage, right, it's been at fifteen years

(11:30):
and no playoffs. I don't have any confidence that going
into next year, in the next two years, with all
these draft picks and all these big offensive decision decisions
to make, that Aaron Glenn is going to make the
right ones. Like this guy came in and he decided
we're going to run an offense that I mean not
even an eighties offense, like a nineteen sixties offense.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Look, if you at least ran the triple option, like
you're Jamel holl Away getting after it. They got a
first down on the option earlier they didn't know, but
that's what I mean, Like, if you want to go
to that and that's the way you think you can
get Breeze Hall untracked and actually useful in your offense.
That's great, But he's meeting three guys in the backfield
every time they hand the ball off to him. The
fact that he's up around fifty total yards on the

(12:10):
night is a miracle based on the way this offense
has been set. Now, you got a couple of completions,
a couple of scrambles as they're moving the ball here
late in the third, but you know it's long protracted drives.
There's no explosive plays, which gets into the penalties. Now,
you'll be happy to know that as of now, you
rank outside of the top ten in pre snat penalties.

(12:32):
So that's good.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Every team should be outside the top ten in pre
snat penal. Every team's pre snat penalty should be very
very low, and just hey, someone has to get him.
But hey, pre snat penalties.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Yeah, no, there's a couple that are really off the charts.
The Giants have thirty three of those this year. And wait,
remind me, because I forget it on my computer in
front of me. What happened to the Giants head coach? Oh?
He got fired? Oh right, right, okay, he evidently tried
to depose the guy that's now in charge because a
tight end dropped the hass on a sure third down
completion that would have been a first down but for

(13:04):
your jets. Yeah, I mean he was supposed to set
a culture. Did you see any of that change? I
love the dance, Like all he was doing was channeling
Ted last. So remember when they were gonna get saved
from relegation. Oh yeah, yeah, right when they tied it
up and they're all dancing made the past and then
his dad went nuts on him, you know, in the
little you know, you know, if you haven't watched that
by now, you know you know.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
The one difference with that once very one small different,
one small difference. Yeah. Uh, that's a TV show. That's
a that's a fictional show that you can write the
ending for. This is real life. That's a fictional I
can make.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
I'm going to go out and a limb and say
that I could have written the ending for this one
weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Now wait, now, Frostburg, you have the solution to my
Because if you have solution jet jets related brother, because
I need that. Man, what do you got so outside
of jumping, okay, you should refer to all jets related
questions from here on out with ask.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Rich's there you go. I bet Rich has the answers. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
And just as we say that that wow, ad Nin Mitchell.
Oh no, John John John Mitchell wide open in the ends, shutdown.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
He just carved him up, just like that. Wow.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Justin Fields buys some time in the pocket and throws
the longest path of his career. I think it was
twenty eight yards. This is a big touchdown for the
Jets to get back in this game.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Look at that. See Putchell across the face of the defense.
Defensive back falls down. Look at that. All this stuff
about how bad he trips it and falls now he'll
get he'll wear it in film. Look at this, Danny
Trejo everybody Jets plus fourteen twenty one fourteen now late
in the third quarter. See, I say someone must be

(14:47):
on the sideline listening to us, going, hey, Jason, Jason,
he's just killing you man. You gotta do something. He's
up to seventy seven pass he could get to one hundred.
He could get there almost there.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
I will keep you updated on the suddenly close game
on Thursday Night football. I mean for now, I mean
Drake Maje is gonna go five for five to the
next drive and then it's gonna be twenty eight four.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Come on, where's the positivity?

Speaker 1 (15:08):
But coming up next, the AL and NL MVP Awards
were announced. Did the right guys win? We surprise you
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Speaker 3 (16:13):
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Speaker 1 (16:16):
End of the third quarter, the Patriots lead the Jets
twenty one fourteen. Patriots have the football are driving. Before
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(16:58):
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Speaker 4 (17:01):
Third down six, extra pressure feels slides away, throwing wide
open touchdown to John Mitchi.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Alx Machette, oh Al Michaels Amazon Prime on the call,
and he's.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Just so disappointed.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
I just I just picture Al calling this game, like
sitting back with his feet up on the table and
he's on his phone playing solitaire, like maybe.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Hey, hey everybody, Hey everybody, Hey, I got this new app. Hey, Kirk,
check out this new app. I got man, you should
go play it.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
And he's just kind of one eye on the game
and one eye on solitaire. Fields back buying some time,
throws whoa guys, wide open.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
It's John Metchi.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
It's a touchdown, all right, and spider solitaire. Yeah, now
extra point pending twenty one thirteen. Kirk, you go ahead,
you say something about this.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
Game now, the fact that he sounded half asleep, but
it was shocked, right, I would have expected a bigger
excitation of oh my god. Uh, and didn't mention that
Woodson fell down. He was wide open because dude tripped
and fell and he slid into the zone and he's
looking around Metchi as to the hell that defender go oh,

(18:15):
he's still picking himself up. So he's gonna wear Woodson's
gonna wear that. In film review, Man, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You might have needed some different cleats there, Pal. You
gave up a touchdown to the Jets. You let the
Jets score. Man does for giving up a passing touchdown
to justin FIELDZ my god.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
So again a little bit of a shocker that it's
this close in the fourth quarter, But again Patriots have
the football, they're driving and I have. I can't believe
the Jets defense is gonna actually stop them.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
Plus thirteen and a half to come on, he's live.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
You just had to you just had to play where
uh one of the Jets DB's and and look it's
it's it's the kid that's starting now because they traded
Sauce Gardner.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
Uh pop.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Douglas catches a pass and he slides down and he
doesn't touch him on the way down, so he gets
up and he runs for an extra ten yards.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
Like, come on, man, this is elemental football. Man. You
gotta tell you gotta make sure you touch a guy.
He's thinking back to elemental I mean elementary football where
you didn't have to touch the guy you get he's down,
he's down, he's down.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
It's okay that touch him. Uh So again, Drake May
having a Hall of Fame night. He's gonna finish tonight
like thirty five for thirty nine for like three hundred yards,
and it's gonna be the easy. This is the easiest
game he's ever had.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Yeah, it's a he's playing pitch and catch out there.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Man.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
I can't believe, just how is it only twenty one points?
How's the only time.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
I mean that that's I can't believe it's still this close, Like,
how do you only have twenty one point?

Speaker 3 (19:39):
It is the Treyvon Henderson game, so you got that
going for you. Forty seven and two on the ground,
added four catches twenty nine yards in a score. But
for Drake May, he's up to twenty three of twenty
eight two fifty seven and that touchdown to Henderson. It's
just been easy all night play. Action has been a.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Solid You guys have gotten a couple of hits on him,
so he will feel it this so we'll keep you updated.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Exit.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
How about a Fresca exit swalling dome? Jason Smith Mike
Harmon again twenty one to fourteen early in the fourth quarter.
But today we had the AL and NL MVP votes.
Results announced show Hey Otani is your unanimous winner in
the National League and an extremely close vote. Aaron Judge
beats cal Rally for MVP in the American League back

(20:24):
to back now for Aaron Judge and all of a sudden,
big questions controversy. Did the right guys win? Did show
Hey really prove enough to be unanimous MVP? Did cal
Rally get absolutely screwed? In this vote, and I'll be
honest with you, we're all gonna surprise you. I was

(20:46):
fine with the outcome both ways. I was fine Kyle Schwarber.
We talked about this in August when when Schwarber was
absolutely red hot. Yeah, was Schwarber the MVP at that point?

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (20:58):
But Otani comes back to start pitching and he's got
a one point one WAR as a pitcher, which you
know he only had you know, fourteen thirteen or fourteen appearances,
still had the same kind of year he had at
the plate. You can talk about Otani's advanced metrics and
in batting average and war, but Schwarber had thirty more RBIs,
which is a thing. But I really I can't argue

(21:20):
with that. I can't argue with Otani over Schwarber the
way this season ended, the way the season ended for Otani, right,
I can't argue it what.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
You had the pitching side of it, all right, because
that all counts. It's not a you know, one or
the other. I mean, you get both and you go
back to September slash October Schwarber hit two oh four.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's not like all of a
sudden you look at all these different advanced metrics, all
these different stats and numbers and achievements, and say, well,
this guy, you know, Kyle Schwarber over this now was
Kyle Schwarber. Could you argue his value to the Phillies
this year? For Otani to the Dodgers, Absolutely, because this
what Bryce Harper is just a good player.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
Now, he's good.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
We told you this way before Philly's GM decided to say, yeah,
I like what that Jason Smith said about Bryce Harper
just being good. And I'm saying Bryce is good because
Bryce is a good player. They're not division winners. They're
not run away with the NL East unless Kyle Schwarber
has that kind of season. Right, So I mean, yeah,
you can argue, you know, the value of that is
a really big deal. But overall, for Otani and what

(22:20):
he did, I have no problem with the pitching stuff
down the stretch.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Here's this September three, twelve, ten home run, seventeen RBI
and he scored twenty two runs. Yeah. I mean, and
this is a Dodgers team. And again, if it had
played descript it would have been far more interesting, right
because the Dodgers supposed to win what was there over
under one oh four and a half or some nonsense
like that. So if they're running away and hiding and

(22:44):
they're not playing meaningful games in September, then we have
all completely different discussion. But they needed every bit of
what shoey Otani did to get to the finish line.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
And I am a big proponent of if you finish
in September like that, okay, that will be something that
that pushes you over the top, because it matters how
you finish, It matters how your team, doesn't matter what
you lead your team to now and you get to
the American League. Much more of a debate cal Rally
with a season that we have never seen before in
the history of baseball by a catcher, right you could,

(23:16):
I mean really, but the same type of situation exists.
You can debate the merits of cal Rally versus Aaron
Judge and look at the numbers and say, well, Judge
has him in batting average and ops and all the
cal ray but cal Rally had sixty home runs and
the catcher's never done this and he plays defense. I
get why it's that close. I really, I get why
it's that close. And you can't you can't sit back

(23:39):
and I see a lot of stuff on social media
ready of cal Rally had the Mariners within eight outs
of the world sit na, it doesn't doesn't that doesn't count.
That doesn't count. It was close, Judge winning. I can't really,
I can't sit back and say, Okay, cal Rally was robbed.
Cal Rally was Oh my goodness, like it's It's not

(24:00):
like Aaron Judge had a year where he had, you know,
forty home runs and knocked in one hundred runs and
hit two seventy and boy, because he plays for the Yankees,
he gets the MVP. I mean he, I mean, he
had a lot of he had a lot of numbers
that were way better than cal Rally's. But Rally was new,
it was fresh. He led the Mariners got to the playoffs.
They had not been there, they not won the division
in so long.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
It was a big.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Storyline, right, So we had the storyline of cal Rally
and we had the excellence of Aaron Judge. So I
can't really say that, Okay, cal Rally got screwed on this.
It was close, right, It was close, and you could
have seen it going one way or the other. But
the other thing. The most important thing about the MVP
vote is this now, and we said this midway part
of this year, when it looked like Aaron Judge was

(24:42):
on the run to another possible MVP, is that this
is a guy's thirty three now and he's still playing
at this kind of level. Right, these back to back years,
his third MVP award, Right, that's the most in Yankee history.
When he finishes his Yankee career, he is going to
go down as one of the top five Yankees to

(25:05):
ever put on that uniform. And now, when you say
something like that, you're talking about the Rays or the Mets,
or the Pirates or the Angels. Okay, that's not really
a doesn't have as much heft. But when you think
about top five Yankees of all time and the players
that are on this list that he is gonna jump

(25:26):
ahead of, right, I mean this list is Ruth and
gerrig and Mantle and DiMaggio and Bera and Jeter right
and now and Maris right retired.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
They retired twenty two numbers. Yes, that's a laundry list
of guys.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
Aaron Judge is not only gonna be top five, He's
gonna be safely in the top five. It's not where
oh I'll give him the number five spot, but he's
gonna be in there over DiMaggio. He'll be in there
over Mantle like it's gonna be are the top three
Yankees of all time? Jeter because of how they were
able to win the career? Is it really Ruth, Jeter

(26:03):
and Judge?

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Like?

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Is that really the Yankee tough that might wind up
being the best three Yankees we have ever seen to
put on a uniform in a in a history that
has better history than any other team in any sport.
This is what the Yankees have You think about? All
these even players I never saw I ever saw lu
Grey play, but you see, you see what he was
able to accomplish it, and and and hitting all the

(26:24):
home runs and all the RBIs he had when Babe
Ruth cleared the bases before him millions of times. You know, Okay,
all these all these all these two out nobody on
at bats at lu Gary gad and still able to
knock in one hundred and fifty runs a year. Like
this is the level that Aaron Judge is gonna be at.
Like he's gonna blow past lu Garry. He's gonna blow
past Demagio. That's how good a career. That's how big

(26:46):
Aaron Judge has become. How great a career that he has.
And he still has probably three or four more years
to rake like this.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
I expect him to.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
When he hits thirty six, thirty seven, he'll slow down. Eventually,
he'll move to a full time I'm designated in her position. Defensively,
when he moved from centerfield to right field, that helped
him because really, can you go back to centerfield after
you dropped the ball the world something to that. Yeah,
So he's got about three or four four years to
put up numbers like this, maybe another MVP or two,

(27:15):
and I mean he's going to be safely in the
top five. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
I mean, you're looking at a guy right now, Rookie
of the Year, going back to twenty seventeen, finished second
in MVP voting that year. In his career, he's already
got five top five mb HE voting campaigns, including three wins.
You're looking at three hundred and sixty eight home runs,
eight hundred and thirty RBI, the walk totals, the ops

(27:40):
is just off the charts. And that was the thing,
right when you start going through what was his war
was nine point seven or something ridiculous like that. You
go through the numbers and try to put him into
that historical space, right, because comparing eras is always a
difficult opposition. But we talk about that storied franchise and

(28:03):
all those retired numbers, Monument Park, uh and the names
that you and I when we were growing up, all
of their numbers uh and accomplishments were the the stuff
of such a legend that they were committed to memory.
And you go on down. You didn't even mention Mariano Rivera.
You're just looking at hitting wise like you still have
before you got, you got. You got a few of

(28:25):
those guys that are hanging out here that aren't even
part of the consideration. But Joe Dimagio and what he
meant to the game, and he was mister Coffee and
had Marilyn Monroe, so it's always gonna be tough to
dock him out of the top five. Well, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
I think, you know, okay, so Joe d Marilyn Monroe,
Derek Jeter and Jetersburg.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
I think, well, no, no, no, But I wasn't arguing
those but I wasn't arguing of those No, no, no,
that was one of the greatest tag teams in the
history of man. I mean, come on, you get Joe Man.
That's starting nine that Jeter had before Hannah Davis entered
Hi Hannah.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
There could be come on, there could be like some
sort of AI to pitch, like we saw like who
is it? We saw mister Rogers getting escorted to the
wrestling ring by Marilyn Monroe when when he's resting Bob Rosco,
it's a beautiful day. You have to kick your ass.
You I want to paint the canvas with your blood.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
You could have an.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
AI of Joe d a young Joe d walking in
with Marilyn Monroe on his arm, and Jeter walks in
with Scarlett Johanson and Jordana.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
Brewster and you're like, oh, okay, I get it now. No, no,
it's a it's a whole other world. But that's the thing,
Like that's where Aaron Judges, He's cracking through the greatness
on and off the field of these other members of
Yankee Lore.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Exit out about a Fresco exit swollen down the Jason
Smith Show with my best friend my carbon Think about
that for Aaron Judge.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
It'll blow your mind.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Time now to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports. From Mancia Belanjos is gonna blow your
mind with an incredible stat about Justin Fields and the Jets.

Speaker 5 (29:56):
Am I making this up?

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Yeah? Don't you just gonna make something up?

Speaker 5 (29:59):
Just make it because you said a great stat about
esse Field, so I gotta.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
Make it up. Yeah, I'm oh, all right.

Speaker 5 (30:04):
He is twenty four of twenty nine for two hundred
and fifty nine yards on a touchdown.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Just kidding.

Speaker 5 (30:08):
That's Drake may that's Drake May.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Hey, he's out of sixteen. It's passing grade.

Speaker 5 (30:15):
Sure, eleven of eighteen, I think is my neest update.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
Yeah, eleven of it?

Speaker 5 (30:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but say this is solid.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
It's solid.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Okay, he's eleven out of eighteen for eighteen yards for Yeah, I'm.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
Seventy five to touch a touchdown.

Speaker 5 (30:29):
He's got a touchdown, He's got touchdown in the air,
he's rushed for a touchdown. He has had his hands all.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Over the scoring for New York. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
It's a good fantasy day.

Speaker 5 (30:39):
It is a fantasy day.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Forty seven rushing yards.

Speaker 5 (30:42):
Come on, now, it is a very good fantasy day
for Trevion Henderson. I'm playing against Ryan bersching Er, so
I'm not a happy camper right now. But the Patriots
do have a twenty four to fourteen lead over the
Jets with about nine minutes to go in the game.
Anything is possible. But right now the Jets are covering.
Weren't They've underdogs by.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
All homework for now, for now, now, for now, for now,
for now. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
Other NFL news guys, Texans have rolled out CJ Strad
for a week eleven because of his concussion, so Davis
Smills is going to get the start against the Titans.
Joe Flacco was limited and practiced today with his shoulder
injury for the Bengals. The Jets have placed wide receiver
Garrett Wilson on IR because of a knee injury, and
if forty nine Ers quarterback Brock Party is actually going
to start Week eleven against the Cardinals. He hasn't played

(31:28):
since Week four because of that toe injury. You guys
were just talking about show Heyo Tawny Aaron Judge winning
the MVP's consecutive MVPs for both of them, Also, cal
Rawley is going to be the new catcher for Team
USA in the World Baseball Classic. Pete Crow, Armstrong, along
with Corby and Carrol are going to join the outfield.
When it comes to the NBA, there are only three

(31:48):
games today, two going on right now. The oh the
Chazz and the Hawks were not a close game, but
now it is. Atlanta is up eighty nine to eighty
five halfway through the third quarter. Suns over the Pacers
seventy seven to sixty three, also halfway through the third,
while the Raptors defeated the Cavaliers one twenty six to
one thirteen. When it comes to the NHL, the Sabers
and the Avalanche are tied at three late in the

(32:09):
second period, Flames over the Sharks one zero after two periods,
Islanders up on the Golden Knights one zero late in
the first period. Jets and Kraken tied at one late
in the first period.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Well, that's good because I thought the Jets in hockey
would have more points in the Jets in football tonight,
and clearly we're going to win that battle.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
That's good. We're looking up. Yeah, I feel really good.
I feel like good about that. Things are looking up. Yeah, Hey,
I always look on the bright side. I always look
on the right side.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Exactly what was that?

Speaker 1 (32:38):
It was that the bright always the way.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
They kept playing over and over that body python and
as good as it gets, it was.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Covered by Art Garfunkel. Okay, all right, you know, as
I gotta tell you something. Just you don't know this,
but I'll tell you this because I'm true. When my
dad was in his thirties, he looked just like Art
garf Oh yeah, the same exact hair mustag like. My
dad looked just like now, my dad kind of looks
like Michael Caine, but he looked just like Art Garfunkel

(33:08):
in his mid thirties. Yeah, we just celebrated the eighty
fourth birthday of our garfulk How.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
To look up?

Speaker 5 (33:15):
What this man looked like.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
It's very specific.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
It is very specific. You're only supposed to blow the
bloody doors off. That's my dad looked like MAT's My
dad looked like Monsei. There you go.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
My dad. He was a looker.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Here's a looker, all right, dad.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Art Garfunkel.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Clearly that I could have gone with some sounds of
silence in our house growing up. Uh so we got
more NFL on the way. Plus, how about me solving
the biggest problem for a big time baseball award winner
this week?

Speaker 3 (33:43):
I could solve the biggest problem, biggest problem, biggest problem.
I can solve it right now. Hez already in jail.
Oh okay, second biggest problem. I can solve it. It's
coming up next right here, Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon at ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
You know, sometimes, hey, five minutes can really change your
perspective on things. Ask Rich, That's true, Ask Rich. Jets
have the football down twenty four to fourteen, and look
the thing is well, well more on this part of it.
But I feel like the Jets play a football, play

(34:25):
football to just build character. I feel like that's that's
Aaron Glenn. Like, are we really trying to win games
or are we trying to build character? I feel like
that that's Aaron again, which is why Aaron Glenn should
be one and done. But this last play I've gone
from Okay, Justin feel's going to be the quarterback the
rest of the season, and as bad as it is,
it's you know it's this is what it is, a

(34:46):
low snap to him in the shotgun.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Now, it's a bad snap, right, It's terrible.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
It's a bad snap. It it's an ankle. But he
gets his hands on it, and the ball is never
more than a foot from justin field, never more than
a foot from him at any time on that play,
and still he can't fall on it, and the Patriots recovering,
he can't new fuckle like he he kept trying to

(35:12):
pick it up and run with her due without underneath.
I'm just gonna try to like I'm gonna bend over
without using my legs or.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
I'm gonna kind of reach and if I can get it, great,
If not, I'm not putting myself in harms. Well, look,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
I think he wanted to try to pick it up
and still make a play. I want to pick it
up and still throw. But like the ball is not
more than it's not more for you. I am okay
not seeing him play again another down the rest of
the year. I really, I am okay with him sitting
on the bench behind to Rod Taylor or at this play.
Brady Cook, Right, everybody loved him in training camp I
am okay not seeing justin fields play another snap this season.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
But like it's it's a play inside your own what
ten yard line? Fall on the ball? Instead? Now it's look,
it looks like they're gonna survive. Here, it's fourth and seven.
Defense rises up, they chase and flush May out of
the pocket on second down. On third down, tries to
go to the end zone. You get a tip ball
at the line, so it falls harmlessly and complete. So

(36:11):
it's gonna be a field goal try. But how do
you not just just put your body on the on
the ground, get the ball and preserve the possession. Instead,
it's a half ass effort and you set them up
point blank range. Like just indicative of everything we've seen
from the Jets emblematic. I really effort all year long.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
I don't understand that that lack of effort, that lack
of awareness of falling on the foot Jets.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
I do understand.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
How many times, I know a thousand times it's leer
than that.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
It's like I'm stuck in the cave of wonders. I've
seen it a thousand times, oh a thousand times, waiting
for someone to let you out. I let you out
of that hell, I really ten thousand years.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
I am all for him not playing another snap all season.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
I really am. I I can't tell.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
I'm show me Trod Taylor, give me Brady Cook.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Whatever you want to do with Joe. It's funny. We
go back to last night. We were talking about the
game and previewly and we can only do so much
for the Jets side because Aaron Glenn was being cagey
about who was gonna be the quarterback. I was looking
at the betting futures and there was actually no prop
odds for either quarterback because he hadn't announced whether it
was gonna be Taylor or Fields under center. And while

(37:26):
we've watched what we've watched eleven of eighteen seventy five
and a score of the loss fumble forty seven yards
rushing that first that first possession ought to go in
the loof, Like, that's the greatest possession you've had this
for the Jets in a very long time. If someone
says someone will steal it, but what's the difference between
someone had being playing great and having a great fantasy day.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
That's this game. We pointed this game right here, that
this right here, he's terrible but Fantasy's giving us the
point like he's.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
Gonna finish Top ten Fantasy off of this game. So
I have more football coming up in a few minutes.
But I like to solve problems. And today's been, you know,
the end of the big.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Week in Major League Baseball where they're awarded everybody all
the big postseason awards up. We talked about Otani and
Judge and the high level that Judge is at after
winning this MVP. But today Paul Skins came out and said,
wait a minute, Wait a minute. These reports that I've
talked to the Pirates about wanting to be traded to
the Yankees, that's completely false. I'm here, I'm focused on here,
I want to win here, said all the right things

(38:25):
right now. Yesterday I said, Pirates, squad, spend some money,
go bring a couple of guys in so you're not
wasting the next three and a half years of that.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
You have Paul Skins.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Under control, right, But here's where I solve the problem,
and I make it even bigger, and I'd pull them
off the I'm sorry, sorry Dodger, sorry Yankees. I'm pulling
them off the board. If the Pirates were smart, they
willed Ronald Acunya him right now. They would say, Okay,
you're not hitting free agency for a while. You made
eight hundred thousand dollars this year. Okay, right now, we're

(38:56):
going to give you a seven year, one hundred million
dollar contract. So is that a lot of money for
god like Paul Skins. No, you think Paul Skin's a
free agent, but he's not gonna get there till twenty twenty.
What if something happens to his arm, what if he
can't throw?

Speaker 3 (39:11):
What? You don't know.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
But if I say right now, we're gonna we're gonna
pay more money than we have to for the next
few years. But if we have seven years and one
hundred million dollars, does he say no? And then you
have Paul Skeen's cheap He's still paying him a ton
of money. He's got, he's gonna get paid. You have
him great for the next seven years, and you can
build around him like the Braves. It's a really smart

(39:32):
thing that they can't do with everybody, because you're seeing
now the Braves made bad decisions. Every guy that came
up for the two months and hit three fifty. Here,
we'll give you this money. Early, but they took the
shit Ronal Lacuna. Okay, he gives an MVP type player.
We're gonna pay you early. We're gonna pay you a
little bit more than you need now, but it's gonna
turn up for us. Well, if the Pirates did that,
that would be the smartest thing they could do.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
No, it's a great model in theory. I mean the
White Sox tried it and they rolled snake eyes on
every guy except for Lewis Robb Junior, who occasionally plays
like a guy worth the money they gave. Otherwise, Mancata,
Jim Andez go on down the line. It failed. Like
you say, with the Braves, you got a couple of
guys where it's been fantastic. Even with Akunya, you gotta
get him on the field to actually get any value

(40:15):
out of that. I like to cut your jib. I'd
say no if I were Paul Skins. But it gets
to start where we still have that gap. Is you
got one hundred and ten million dollars in revenue share,
you only spend eighty four.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
But I'm telling you long way to get that kind
of money, and you get it now. More baseball, more
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