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November 29, 2025 41 mins

Arnie Spanier and Veejay Huskey are in for Jason and Mike on a Black Friday special edition of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon. The guys react to the Bears defeating the Eagles to move to 9-3 on the season and break down what this loss could mean for Philadelphia. Next, Veejay makes it clear… Sweet Potato Pie is way better than Pumpkin Pie. All that and more coming up in Hour 1 of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon! 🎙️🔥

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Speaker 3 (00:26):
Radio, Yes, sir, you heard the man right sitting in
for Jason Smith and his best friend Mike Harmon on
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon Show here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
Not those guys tonight. You get the fill in man.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
You get the bullpen and I VJ Verne huskyt a
big sports talking Manella Poppy and.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
Then my guest, my host. I love this guy.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
We've been filling in together for some reason on Thanksgiving
and Black Friday for the last five years.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
Is my good friend you know him as the stink Genius.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Back freezing as you know what off back in the
Northeast because it's starting to get cold out there.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
Is my man Arnie Spaniard, Yo, my man, a living
v J.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
What's going on.

Speaker 5 (01:10):
You know, if I'm telling you right now, the Arizona
games on. So for the for the next two hours.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Oh, I'm gonna do is goal.

Speaker 5 (01:17):
For two hours. So I'm already disappointed. We're down seven nothing,
but I have that.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
On the side.

Speaker 6 (01:23):
I'm ready to do this show.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
So much is going on.

Speaker 5 (01:28):
I'm already disappointed at the saga and the show just started.
I don't like the way he gives the updates. I
hate to go ahead and air dirty launch.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
He's been in the business.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
No, but he says he said Arizona best in the business.

Speaker 5 (01:40):
Let me corrected when he says Arizona State shutting out Arizona.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
It's just the second quarter, don't I.

Speaker 5 (01:47):
Got?

Speaker 4 (01:48):
I meant I got.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
We have no points. But that's beside the point. To
see the think about the saga. See he understands verbage.
He didn't say shut out, shutting, which means I in
g present tense and right now you got a donut
on the board, aren't he? And that shit says what
it is. But listen, brother, keep the faith. I'm not
gonna feel like this tomorrow morning. We'll get into all
of that later on, but we do have an incredible

(02:10):
show line of the Sayer is here on the updates.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
We got my man Alex tyshit as man.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
I call him the technician because he's just everything he does,
it's just wild technical. He don't care nothing about sports.
But when he come into studio, nothing, he knows nothing,
he cares nothing. But when it comes to this, when
it comes to the board, when it come to technical stuff,
he's the man and then my guy man we are.
We act like we argue over everything, but we really
only disagree on one sports topic over the last five years.

(02:35):
But it feels like we never agree on anything because
that's the biggest sports topic in the world.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
That's Lebron. My man Big Shade is producing the show man.
What's up, Brother?

Speaker 7 (02:43):
What's up?

Speaker 8 (02:43):
Brother?

Speaker 7 (02:43):
I just I do want to just say I was
right about that, but last week.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
I admitted it last night. See you can't do that
we did. That's not real.

Speaker 7 (02:54):
You know what you just did your front run like
he does. Just prove want to hear what we what
we were talking about. This was over the summer when
Lebron the Lakers just finished playing. Obviously it wasn't necessarily
the greatest of seasons and the end wasn't necessarily the
greatest either for them, and Steve Hartman and VJ. Husky

(03:18):
believed that it was the last time Lebron would be
in a Laker jersey.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
I got enter right there. No, remember Steve said that
they were going to bank roll his final year. Yeah,
he never going to promote it. And I said, what, Yeah, okay,
something crazy. I was saying, Lebron has played his last
game of the Laker And I was saying, you guys
are insane.

Speaker 7 (03:38):
What's the point they won't get anything for him? It
made zero sense. He's gonna have an off season with Luca.
Obviously he did his whole Lebron thing and sad out
and we can talk whatever we want to talk about
with that. But in the end, magt my Flowers.

Speaker 5 (03:51):
Yeah, I just thought what on that point? I don't
think it was too far fetched. I mean, let's be honest.
They were playing well without him. There's new wander, there's
a changing of the guard, there's a new superstar for
the Lakers.

Speaker 7 (04:04):
But tell me this, what would you get for him?
It's not the better without him?

Speaker 6 (04:09):
Maybe independent money, that's an you know, there's there's.

Speaker 5 (04:13):
All kinds of things you can do to help the
team get get back draft picks or clear money out,
and it wasn't so far fetched. There was a lot
of people talking about that, and then there was a
talk about how hurt was he really was he faked
not faking.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
It, But you know, I would could he come back earlier?

Speaker 7 (04:31):
I would agree with you guys, if Cleveland wasn't in
the state they're in right now, if Cleveland wasn't pushing
for what like a like a win right now, like
they're gonna win. They're one of the better teams in
the East. They've been the better.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
The Lakers are one of the better teams out too.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
Without him.

Speaker 7 (04:42):
Well, that's what I'm saying. The only team that would
give up anything for Lebron right now, I'm sure is
the Caps. Are we ming grants on this?

Speaker 4 (04:48):
But see if I'm the.

Speaker 6 (04:49):
Lakers, No, maybe Golden State. I know he was eyeing
that for a while here.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
And let me let me tell you guys, this being
I covered the Lakers, Okay, I was told multiple nights
there at Crypto that they were they were adamantly trying
to shop them. They were trying to figure out Now,
whether you want to use the word shop how to
get out of how to make this clean, how everybody
can look good because this new ownership group, we just
saw this with the fire of the bus brother Yeah right,
I was just.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
About to say this Norman and Jerry Garne and gen
Right major majority owner.

Speaker 8 (05:18):
Right.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
So this ownership group, for the fans out there that
don't know it, is the same ownership group at the
Los Angeles Dodgers raging undisputed it back to back world
serious champions who let guys like Jock Peter you want
to leave?

Speaker 4 (05:32):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Jock was nice for them, but he wanted more money,
wanted to go. What they do, They ran it like
a business. Bye bye, Cody Seeger. They came to my
Rangers and played the second base of shortstop for us
and what it helped win the World Series.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
They told them the same thing. You want to go
get some money, Okay, no.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
Problem, buy We'll keep going on because we're not running
this like a mom and popping. We're not falling in
love with superstars. We're gonna put teams on the court
that we feel can do what we want to do.
Because all owners make money. But you know when you
make a lot more money when you win when you
win is when you make a lot more money as
an owner. So I made that assumption and made that

(06:09):
prediction because it just it felt like they didn't reop him,
but they gave Luca the extension, and they gave JJ
the JJ extension. Surprise me that I thought we would
wait another year. Let me have to this, VJ.

Speaker 5 (06:20):
If you were Luca quietly in your mind, of course
you would never admit this publicly. Would you be hoping
that you traded Lebron or that Lebron would come back? Now?
What do you say privately? Play in your own mind?
Because in my own mind, I'm like, Hey, we're playing great.
I'm taking over. The transition has happened. I love the
new owners. Give me Currup some money. We'll pick somebody

(06:43):
up halfway through the year that will work out a
minimum contract because they just got cut from the team,
and so on and so on.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
That's what I'm thinking to myself. My answer to that is,
it depends on what kind of ego Luca has. Would
you a great share? It depends on what kind of
ego Luca has, because Luca may be like, no, I
you know, I just want him back. Da da da
da da or Luca been like, nah, dog, this is
my Like, this is the Lakers, this ain't the MAVs.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
This is the Lakers.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
And they really just completely one hundred percent handed me
the keys, like made me. It's it's not you no more, homeboy,
it's my team.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
Now.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Some of the stuff people are pointing out, it's low
hanging fruit for me to grab and you shay, you've
worked with me long enough. I hate low fringing, low
hanging fruit sports talk like I want to go really
search for something. But his body language is something I've
always spoken about with Lebron and the little scuffle the
other night. Take what you want to take from it,
but he did look like he was trying to help
Luca out or defit Luca at all. And then kind

(07:43):
of his two answers to the two questions about the
floor being slippery, and then Jackson Hayes saying that he
got Luca because Luca got him.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
Both his responses to that weren't like, you know, uh.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Full, I'm all in on with this. It's cool that
lucas the man. Right now to your question, what type
of ego does Luca have? We already know what kind
of ego Lebron has. But if Luca has that same
type of ego, where no, I'm twenty five, I'm the man,
I'm first team albeit NBA, and this is the Lakers.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
Brother, I'm not sharing this. Listen.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
We couldn't watch Kobe and Shaq share the Lakers, right,
and they were the three straight four out of five
and one of three p and they could because it
was the Lakers. It's the show. It's the biggest Brandon
basketball in the world. And when you hand at this
magic and Isaiah, they couldn't. He didn't want Isaiah on
the team. They did. What Isaiah the Olympic team? How
about that? I mean, I'm crazy as that and as

(08:39):
good as he was.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
Jesez, well, yeah, but that's a that's a whole, that's
a whole another story.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
But to the point, Shay did cash in on that,
but I mentioned it in passing last night during a
commercial break, so for say to jump.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
On in to night, yeah, I didn't know.

Speaker 7 (08:53):
It turned into a discussion. That's all.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
No, brother, this is Lebron. Yeah, Lebron, listen.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
Whether you want to hear people sometimes going, oh my god,
I'm so tired of talking about Lebron, brother, it is
what it is because everybody has an aps, everybody has
an opinion, and.

Speaker 7 (09:10):
We're not gonna have it for very long. So we're
gonna take advance.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
Right and think about it.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Could you imagine we had radio like this and social
media and podcasts like this when Jordan played, they it
would be this every day.

Speaker 7 (09:19):
What's what did Jordan today?

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Why didn't Jordan chew his gum a certain way last night?
Is he upset with Jerry Krause if you old enough
to know that story? But great show lined up tonight, man,
Great start right here, man. Let let's get right into
We have some NFL, we have college. Next hour, Arnie
and I are gonna give you guys our top ten
rivalries in all of sports because this has been a
huge topic. Our partner, colleague Joel Klatt was on the

(09:45):
show going to get some Iron Bowl guys and talking
about the game, so we'll bring that also to you too.
We're gonna also talk week thirteen and all the matchups
would happened last night a little bit also in hour three,
and just have a lot of fun. So kickback, relax
wherever you guys are listening to us on Black Friday,
Happy belated Thanksgiving to you all. God bless you all
all your friends and family out there. But let's lett en,

(10:05):
let's get right into today's game. Number one NFL is king.
It always leads today. The Chicago Bears, who you and
I spoke about last night, and I guess this is
why the sports God set this up for the way
they did, because they go into Philly and hold Philly
to fifteen points today, beating them twenty five to fifteen.
And what Jalen hurt is fault. He threw over two

(10:27):
hundred two touchdowns. He threw a pick, but also Kayler
Wims threw a pick, so we're gonna pick on Jalen
Hurts's pick. We have to point out Kayler Wims pick.
But the Bears like grown men do. And we talked
about this about the Ohio State Michigan game last night.
We'll touch on a little more of that as the
show goes on. But forty seven carries for two eighty
one on the ground, two guys over one hundred yards,

(10:49):
one thirty one twenty five for Colin for DeAndre Swift
running against his former team. That's grown men move. Another
grown ass men against their wiel and just shoving the
ball down your throat, your thoughts. They can game today,
and what do you think about the Bears? Are the
Bears finally saying, hey, guys, we're for real. You see,
our coach would have shirt Off flexing in the locker
room like he's a muscleman from Arkansas when they went

(11:10):
to the elite a back in the day.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
Where you staying with the Bears? Are the Bears for real?

Speaker 5 (11:14):
Now we can no longer say that they've not beaten anybody.
But he's just been Philadelphia. Maybe they've caught in Philadelphia
at the great time. Maybe it was the perfect storm.
That's beside the point.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
They came back. They played a great game.

Speaker 5 (11:28):
They look everything about their nine to three records that
they show right now.

Speaker 6 (11:32):
You know, I was kind of doubting them. I have
no doubt about them.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
Now maybe I should have a little bit because Philadelphia
has put a lot of doubt in my mind after
this game and after what happened to them against Dallas.
But yeah, I mean, look at what Chicago's done the turnaround.
Cam Williams was not great today, by the way. He
made a lot of mistakes, missed a lot of open guys.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
It was about he's about fifty percent completion percentage. Wouldn't
he have it all today?

Speaker 5 (11:58):
If I told you that he was seventeen to three
thirty six for one fifty four right as oh, they
got clobbered. Philadelphia would have crushed them, especially if you
threw them about thirty six times. But defensively, they just
did a great job. There's something wrong with Philadelphia.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
I just don't know what it is.

Speaker 5 (12:13):
Saquon Barkley is playing the worst football I think I've
ever seen it, but worst than he was when he
was with the Giants. He can't get it going. He
had thirteen for fifty six, but if you take away
the fifteen, which was.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
His long, he had twelve for forty.

Speaker 5 (12:29):
This guy constantly weaken and week out, except for one week,
is put up no numbers at all. And I don't
even know how the hector're eight and four. But it's
eventually it's catching up to them. That's why you see
them dropping games like that, and that Dallas game is
now after effect to what happened here.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
If I'm a Philadelphia fan, I'm very worried about what's
going on with my Eagles. You know, well, I said
this yesterday and we were talking about the Eagles and
we were talking about Sakuon Barkley. Is that I think
he's burnt out? This year was a lot. You know,
you got to think about Saquan's career. Comes into the
league out of Penn, stay right right and blows up
like hits the league like a ton of breaks. Then

(13:08):
he blows the league missus sometime, has to kind of
get back to it. Then comes back. Remember they go
up to Minnesota on the road. This is year Daniel
Jones earned the forty million dollar contract for throwing fifteen
touchdown passes and they beat Kevin O'Connell and Kirk Cousins
and now a Minnesota team, which I questioned yesterday Kevin O'Connor,
like we were blaming everybody else in Minnesota but the coach.
But just look at the track history over the last

(13:28):
four or five years. Gets into the contract dispute, Saquon
does with the Giants and becomes a free agent, and
they're caught on the Netflix show saying just please don't
let him go to Philly, like we can't let him
get and that's where he ends up. So he's got
that chip on the shoulder right, and they're feeding them
the ball and they're working off the touch push and
they're working off play action. He got a receiver one

(13:49):
in the receiver one B with Brown and with Smith
and he blows up and it was a lot last year.
I mean a man jumped backwards over a guy who
was the covering. Ma added like it's he had that
type of year where just feels like it took a
lot out of him. And it gets all the way
to the super Bowl and you win it, like you
get to the pinnacle, man and you hold the Lombardi.
Do you think any of that has played into It's

(14:12):
not a slow start anymore. We're in week thirteen. This
is not a slow start.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
This is the trend.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
This is what you are.

Speaker 5 (14:17):
You know what. Look last year is what it was.
Let's face it. Though he's still a relatively young guy.
I mean right back, yeah, this year though that way right,
But this year, out of the thirteen weeks, I think
eleven weeks have been like sixty yards or less. I mean,
that's that's more than a small sample size. That's that's

(14:38):
a pretty big size, especially on a team that was
eight and two at the time they're eight and four.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Now, I mean, if they were losing, you could.

Speaker 5 (14:44):
Say, Okay, something bad happened, there was a major injury,
maybe the offensive lines breaking down. But no, not at all, Man,
not at all. They were a good team. And he's
just not putting up big numbers. He's he's really grind
and he's not in he's completely healthy. That's that's the
you know, scratch your head about that part.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
You have any questions about their offensive coordating or play calling,
because I do. I'm not gonna put this on Siriani
and we'll touch a little bit more of him in
the next segment as we talk about more Philly as
far as what's going on there, but the offensive play
calling there, it shows the difference in Ben Johnson, and
we spoke about this last night where you have Dan
Campbell and Detroit with the glasses on calling plays and yeah,

(15:26):
it looked.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
Cool and it was nostalgic.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
They see an old sky, old school gritty guy, you know,
taking the play calling and calling the plays. But the
offense hasn't looked the same, at least not for the
longevity of a game. They have these spurts where they'll score,
you know, three touchdowns and four drops. But that's in
the fourth quarter. They've had to score late in the
last three games with him calling plays. But you look
at Philly and you know seven ten points in the

(15:48):
Green Bay game, right, you know, twenty one to nothing
last week, and then you don't score another point earlier
in the year up on I think it was what
nineteen nothing on Denver and blow that because you can't score.
You scored like three points or nothing for the rest
of the game. It's starting to be the trend of
the offensive coordinator. If you make a move to try

(16:09):
to save this year, you say it's the offensive coordinator.

Speaker 5 (16:11):
But how many times does the quarterback get up to
the one of scrimmage and change the play at least
fifty percent of the time, So you gotta put it
on him. Also, you can't just put it on the
offensive coordinator if the quarterback is going to throw an
audible or.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Could I play Devil's advocators say, call it a right
play and a quarterback doesn't have to change the play.
Think about it like this, Okay, great point, no problem,
let's play this game.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
I'll go with that.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
But then at week thirteen, if your quarterback let's just
say forty one percent of the time he's changing the plays.
At some point, y'all haven't had to sit down talk
during the week and saying, okay, you're changing the plays,
like do you like something else? What do you like
in this situation?

Speaker 4 (16:49):
Obviously that might not be happening.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
And if that's not happening, the offensive coordinator as a
coach is not doing his job. So maybe he might
need to go and we can take that blame away
from Jamis Artis.

Speaker 5 (16:58):
I mean, we could say that, you know what, how
about times that maybe the defense just exploded through the
offensive line, got your quarterback's face and he had nothing,
there was nothing he could do about it. How about
times then maybe a receiver just dropped the ball. That
has happened, you know that offensive So you know it's
it's a combination. Now, Look, the offense has not been great.

(17:19):
I'm not gonna argue that it was fantastic. Look what
they put up today at home against the Bears defense.
They should at least done a lot better than that.
Should have been at least twenty four what the Bears
put up. So I'm worried. If I'm Philadelphia, there's no
doubt about that. But who's going to step up other
than the Rams in that conference. I still think they're
gonna be okay if they just straighten things out. I

(17:41):
just don't know what they have to do different right now.
VJ twenty fourth ranked offense. The Eagles have exactly like
it's it can't be just a quarterback, right it's.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
Not running and listen, aj Brown, I guess we can
put on at the rest with the game that he
threw up today. Fourteen targets which means Jalen Hurts, Yeah,
ten catches all fourteen targets which Jalen Hurts is looking
for him, and two touchdowns, but they do go down.
Bears do win the game, twenty four to two fifteen.
They move to nine and three and the Eagles fall
to eight and four. Their four losses have come in

(18:15):
back to back game, so they don't they're not losing
consistently or you know, here and there, they have these
blips where they drop back to back games. We'll see
if they can bounce back next week. All right, coming up,
it's Sirianni Tommy from Goodfellas. I'll explain all of that
in next Your Man, Arnie spaying your VJ Husky sitting
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God's Green Earth. Arnie Spaniard, Yes, sir is Nick Sirianni,
I left you with this when I heard you giggle.
You like that one, dan Is Nick Sirianni. Tommy from
good Fellas, Let me explain. Tommy from Goodfellas was the

(20:24):
character that Joe Peschi played, right. It was part of
the mob back in the seventies and eighties, and he
was wow, like he was wild, but he loved it.
Remember when the club owner joked to Paulie Cicero that
he probably should whack him, and Paully kind of lift
his eyes up at him and he's like, I'm sorry, Paulie,
I'm sorry. I'm just saying this guy you know, Da
Da Da hit him in the head when he tried
to get him to pay the tab.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
He had a personality where he was loved, He was
liked by people.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
He was a little quirky.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
He's a little weird, but hey, he was successful. Hey Tommy,
we need you to go do this. He did it. Tommy,
we need this truck in this load. He did it.
Hey go with Harry, start to overhear bring this money back.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
He did it.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
But sooner or later, some of them moves man got
Tommy whacked out of nowhere.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Remember the first time you ever saw Good Fellas and
that scene happens, you go, oh, they got him, and
then you hear Harry narrated that was for you know,
the gambing, no guy for this, for that or that
for that. In the Philadelphia Eagles, our city and the
team man that has done this before, and can we
mentioned mister Doug Peterson who won a Super Bowl for them.

(21:26):
Andy Reid got the one Doug Peterson one one for them,
one one, and within four years he was just whacked
out of nowhere from behind, like you didn't see it coming.
And it's like the Eagles fired Doug. People what it's
just want your Super Bowl. Andy Reid got the five
straight NFC championship games and won Super Bowl, and you

(21:47):
still kept him for a significant him out of time.
You didn't whack him like that. It was kind of coming.
You could see it with Andy Reid. But I'm telling you, man, Sirianni,
he might be Tommy from Goodfellas.

Speaker 5 (21:57):
Man.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
I I well, if you say you want him whacked,
I'm not so sure about that.

Speaker 5 (22:01):
As long as no, I just think it can happen. Yeah, well,
I don't think so right now. I mean, let's see
how this year plays out. But as long as he's
winning and Ayden four is winning, I think they're number
two in the NFC, and he does have a Super Bowl,
he'll be okay. You know, sure everything is not going
all smoothly right now, but you just can't fire the

(22:22):
coach with that type of record. Now. Just because they
fired Peterson doesn't mean that that was the right decision.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
I mean, look back at some of the other firings.

Speaker 5 (22:30):
We still talk about when the Cowboys, you know, had
some of their firings when Jerry took over. My goodness, man,
they you know, when they fired Tom Landry, people are
still giving him grief over that. But I mean, bottom
line is, you know you're not going to fire him.
He's a good head coach. Sometimes he doesn't do every
decision right, but what coach does it give me one
coach that does everything right that every time there's a

(22:53):
major decision, he's pushing all the right buttons, No such thing.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
They don't exist.

Speaker 5 (22:58):
That's why they get these big payouts, these big buyouts,
and you know, they last for about three to five years, some.

Speaker 6 (23:05):
A little bit longer, like Pittsburgh Steelers and Tomlin.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
And some people think he should be gone.

Speaker 5 (23:10):
And you know, because he's above five hundred for a
gazillion straight years?

Speaker 3 (23:14):
Was it seventeen straight years? People are getting a little
fed up with that. But no, I'm not.

Speaker 5 (23:18):
I'm not getting rid of Sirianni. I like him and
I'm gonna keep him around.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
I'm gonna respond to that in a second, because I
don't think you got where I'm going with it. But
I'll break it down a little more. And I don't
think he's getting fired right now. But first we gotta
go to the best in the business, mister Steve the Sega.
Happy belated days given and happy black Fridays. The goodness
has been a while.

Speaker 10 (23:40):
Good to see you, sir, yeah, and happy holiday to
you both.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Good to hear you both say the sag howdy.

Speaker 10 (23:45):
And we've got the on standby which Arizona team we're
gonna be hearing too, right, there's the Wildcats, but so
far they've been the yeah pretty much. They are getting
shut out with about a minute to go in the
first half at.

Speaker 6 (23:57):
Arizona twenty of times.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
Yeah, that's funny.

Speaker 10 (24:00):
But you know they're gonna have to score a point
at some point. Seven to nothing ASU.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Late firstink, they just missed the field goal.

Speaker 4 (24:08):
Doink down.

Speaker 10 (24:11):
You know who's really in trouble is Texas A and M.
At Texas the Longhorns have outscored him seventeen to nothing
in the second half to take the lead over third
ranked and undefeated Texas A and M twenty to ten.
This would be great news for Georgia, which already won
today at Georgia Tech sixteen to nine. Number two Indiana
forty nine three leaders at Purdue early in the fourth

(24:33):
seventh ranked Old Miss one at Mississippi State thirty eight
nineteen and the Mississippi coach Lane Kiffin, Yes, We'll decide
tomorrow if he's leaving for LSU or not. Thirteenth rank
Utah one at Kansas thirty one twenty one with three
touchdowns in the fourth quarter, including a ninety seven yard
pick six. As for the other games, Iowa one easily

(24:53):
at Nebraska forty to sixteen. New Mexico in double overtime,
beat San Diego State Boy State with a late touchdown
one twenty five, twenty four at Utah State. North Texas
finishes eleven to one after beating Temple fifty two to
twenty five. Oklahoma State's new coach is Eric Morris, who's
leaving North Texas after the season. A reminder Saturday on

(25:15):
Fox TV. Number one Ohio State at number fifteen. Michigan
College football selection Sunday is December seventh, which is only
a week from Sunday. Vanderbilt gave coach Clark Lee a
new six year contract in the NFL. Steelers quarterback Aaron
Rodgers will return to play on Sunday with the broken
left wrist. The Bucks say quarterback Baker Mayfield is trending

(25:36):
toward playing this weekend despite a sprain left shoulder. At
Philadelphia today, Bears beat the Eagles twenty four fifteen Kyle
Manungai one hundred and thirty yards rushing and a touchdown.
DeAndre Swift one hundred twenty five yards rushing at a touchdown.
I love the stat they had on the broadcast. The
last time the Chicago Bears had two players top one

(25:56):
hundred yards rushing in the same game eighty five nineteen
eighty five ives great team Walter Payton and Matt Suey.
Ladies and Gentlemen State Green Yes, Penn State absolutely wow.
Among the eleven NBA games tonight, Atlanta beat Cleveland one
thirty to one twenty three despite forty two points from
Donovan Mitchell. Orlando a winner at Detroit won twelve one

(26:19):
oh nine, thirty seven points for Desmond, Baine, victories for
New York and Philadelphia. Wins for Indiana and Charlotte, which
had lost seven in a row. Men's college hoops number
five Connecticut at Madison Square Garden beat number thirteen Illinois
seventy four sixty one.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
Back to You, Appreciate You the saga of VJ.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
Vernha Husky and with Arnie Spain for Jason Smith and
his best friend Mike Harmon on the Jason Smith Show.
So let's get right back to Sirianni because I want
to clear something up.

Speaker 5 (26:47):
I just like he's gonna get wag No no no
no no no no no no no no. You saw
what happened to Tim, Yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Yeah, yeah, but you didn't hear everything in between, the
stuff that led up to it.

Speaker 8 (26:58):
Now.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
Also, I have a lot of to even asking this
question because they wanted him fired two years ago after
the Super Bowl loss to the Chiefs, because that year
went south and people wanted him fire. Then on air, TV, radio,
people were calling for his job. Then last year they
start two and two. Now they write the ship and
they going to run and win the Super Bowl. But
early Rumblinds last year they wanted him fired. So what

(27:20):
I'm saying is in comparison to my analogy with Tommy
the restaurant guy wanted them act earlier in the movie.
Someone talked about it, someone bought it up, and eventually
it happened, and it happened out of nowhere.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
And that's what I think he won't get fired this year.
I'll tell you this.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
They go on to slide and finish nine to eight
and missed the playoffs. We got some stuff to talk.
Dallas goes on a run that now six five and
one and moves above them, beats already, beat him head
to head, right, beat him again, sweep them. There will
be a lot of conversation this off season about Nick Sirianni.
There always is someone that wants the fired coach that

(27:56):
everyone doesn't like, and Nick Sirianni has just as many
people that stakes. He's too quirky, not the adult in
the room, not a good head coach. These are things
I've heard people in our position, our industry say about
the man. But the talk has already started. You let
this year go south, and let's see how this offseason moves.
Say Kwan doesn't get to one thousand yards, you let

(28:16):
that happen after not after touching two k and had
it having a shot at the record. Well, it could
be real ugly. And I'm just saying it's already been
out there. Aren't you that people have thought to want
to fire this man within the last three years? All right?

Speaker 5 (28:30):
Well, well the show's today, and today he's eighting four.
I can't talk about what he's gonna do with the
last five games. And if he does fall apart the
last five games, it's got to be a real big
dive because it plays.

Speaker 6 (28:40):
The Raiders of the Commanders twice, so that should be
three wins.

Speaker 8 (28:44):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (28:45):
And they also play the Charger team that's got some
major injuries. So I don't think they're gonna fall apart.
And I don't think Dallas are gonna get you know,
capture him. As for you know, fans and.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Call Dallas Joe, Dallas defense is good downas offense is humming.

Speaker 5 (28:59):
But for talk show people and you know calling in
and watting him fired, well, they couldn'ess. They don't make
the decisions, I think phil I think if they did,
Mike Tomlin would have been fired a decade ago for
crying out loud.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
I think he's just fine. And the ramblings, you know,
two games and.

Speaker 5 (29:16):
If somebody's doing too, that's that's just the Philly fans
losing their marvels and they're crazy out there in Philadelphia.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
Oh yeah, we all know that.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
My dad from South Philly. I know how Philly get down.
I know exactly.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
That's why I think this is a very legitimate talk
process to say, hey, this thing goes south. Now, like
you said in our business. We do a lot of
hypotheticals like crystal ball, you know it, eighted four. I
think he's fine at eight nine. Well that's a whole
nother story. But like we said the shows today in
eight and four, I think he's just fined. And Philadelphia

(29:48):
is gonna be fined, especially with that schedule too. Yeah. Well,
one thing I learned about the NFL is late in
the year, he got a lot of guys who are
going to be free agents on bad teams, and they
want to put a lot of good tape out there,
and you get these games where these low ranked teams
to look look out. The Giants are playing right now,
right like they're at the Patriots Monday night, and it
should be a walk through.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
It really should.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
But I tell you this, Burns, who's up there in
the top two or three in sacks, tibet on that defense,
and the way Jamis has been playing just out of
his mind is you know throw He's always gonna make
the mistake, you know it's coming. But other pieces have
been stepping up and Giants have been playing competitive, good football.
And we talked about the Patriots last night where they
they're they're ten and two, but they've skated by there

(30:30):
that Cincinnati game. They've had a few other games. They
didn't look great against the Jets on a Thursday night
on National TV. So I want to throw this at.

Speaker 6 (30:36):
I think Jackson Dark By the way, he's back for
this game.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
So is Jackson Dart back?

Speaker 3 (30:40):
I think so. I think so.

Speaker 5 (30:41):
I think our past protocol. I think that was just
announced yesterday.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
I would I would have sad them. They're two and ten.
You don't bring back the franchise.

Speaker 5 (30:50):
Oh no, he's a rookie. He want to They want
to get him as many.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
Games, not at two and ten, not at two in
ten and already banged up the way he plays the run.
Let me ask you about Philly's defense. Was today Joseph
anomaly because they're deep. It's just been you know, fine, Cooper,
I'm sorry, blanket ship today. Fourteen tackles at the safety position.
You don't want your safety to have fourteen tackles unless
his name is Ed Reed or Troy Polamalu, right, or
Ronnie Steve Atwood or one of those one of those

(31:13):
old school guys. Man, you don't want your safety in
today's game that, especially when it's not receivers, they've they're
tackled two running backs that's both running for over one
hundred yards. Any worry about this defense was? Today's just
kind of one of those nights.

Speaker 5 (31:26):
You can't worry about the defense, but you're so worried
about the offense.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
You just can't do it. You can't worry about everything.

Speaker 5 (31:31):
And I know, maybe you should pay more attention to it,
but really, the offense should be like ninety eight percent
of your worries right now. Defense was okay until the
last quarter. Chicago picked up a couple of touchdowns. They're
gonna be just fine. They'll look early in the year,
the defense was not all that strong. They were giving
up a lot of points. Were like, what's going on
with Philadelphia's defense? So, no, I'm fully invested on how

(31:55):
to fix the offense. I'm not concerned about what's going
on defensively. If maybe, sure, you want to make a
few tweaks here and there. I thought they did a
pretty good job for most of the game and get
in Chicago, you know, up till that fourth quarter part until.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
Then, yeah, I agree with you. I'm not worried about
the defense either. I just wanted to know where your
mind was with it, right, and but but but when
you get run on like that for two eighty that
that does it doesn't worry me. But we definitely will
be talking about this in film study. This is not
one of those uh oh, we just throw the film
away and just move on. You know, sometimes you hear
that from players that God, because the game is so bad.

(32:29):
Are a portion of game is so bad. It's like, listen,
that's not who we are. We throw the film away
maybe in a blowout game, but in a game that
was kind of you know, tight down into the third quarter,
third and fourth quarter, but they could just keep the
ball from you pound the ball to eighty one on
the ground. That that's something I want to talk to
my d line and linebackers about and go, hey, guys,
was it did we not prepare you did?

Speaker 4 (32:50):
Did you see something that we didn't see on film?
Was it something new?

Speaker 3 (32:52):
Because when you get run on like that, man, that man,
the man that that that's domination. Other than the Rams,
who would you be afraid of? Who do you think
is better than Philadelphia? Other than the Rams? Other than
the Rams in the entire NFL? Who would you say
the entire league?

Speaker 5 (33:10):
Yeah, in the entire other than the Rams. Who would
you say, oh boy, there it's Philadelphia number two. Even
though out of the Patriots or the Broncos or Pittsburgh
or anybody in the AFC. Maybe you'll put Chicago out
of them as they just beat them, but they're better
than Tampa or Seattle or Green Bay or San Franz.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
Okay, I would agree because well, number one.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
I thought, you can't Panicky. You can't beat Panicky.

Speaker 5 (33:34):
And by the way, their strength the victory for Philadelphia
over five hundred, they easily have the best drink of
victory in the entire NFL.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
It's insane. No, I'm not in panic mode. I just
it's when you can't run the football and then you
get run on like that today. As a coach myself,
that that that's we got to talk about that. That's
a discussion that's got to be had because that is.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
Them lining up. You know it's coming.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
Remember two years ago where Michigan was up at Penn
State and they ran the ball every play in the
second half, right, and just like that, JJ bccarth things
might have it might have been, It might have been
with JJ. I'm not sure it might have been with JJ.
But the point I'm making is like you knew it
was coming and you could do nothing about it. That
tears a mental down. That wears another grown man down

(34:21):
knowing you're about to run his way and there's nothing
he can do about it. He can't swim, he can't handslap,
he can't do anything to run. To me, there is
a conversation, is what I'm saying that needs to be
had within those bach.

Speaker 6 (34:34):
In the run, Yeah, you need to run in the playoffs,
So you need to be.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Able to stop the run in the playoffs because defensive
running game travels in the NFL. It doesn't matter where
you play. If you can run the football, you can run.
If you can run the football, you can run it anywhere.
Throw it's different because if it's cold or windy, it
affects the throw. Cold and win ain't never affected a
running game in one hundred years of football.

Speaker 5 (34:54):
No, even if they go ahead and stack the run
and you'll just wear them down. Like you said, it's
gonna be a great playoff. Sure, I really can't wait, because,
like I said, other than maybe the Rams, who would
you put ahead of Philadelphia? And Philadelphia's got his flaws
there's everybody in the AFC. I feel it's got their flaws.
It's absolutely crazy.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Well, okay, so they answer your question. Listen, I'll agree
with you number one. I'll go back a second. I
picked Philly to repeat. At the beginning the year, we
do all our picks here on the sheet here you
know you call in sign. We write everybody's picks down, AFC, NFC,
worst Team, MVP, biggest call. I wait till the end
of the year and then sneak it in there. So yeah, right,
but Philly. I picked Philly to repeat, So I'm not

(35:32):
in panic mode. But if I had to pick a
team in the entire NFL, I still just like the
coach offense. I just don't know how much I touched
trust Daniel Jones. You have the Broncos out too, right,
and you have the Broncos. I don't know how much
I trust bo Nicks. You have the Patriots. I don't
know how much I trust Jake May Do you see
my Do you see my pattern here?

Speaker 4 (35:52):
Seattle?

Speaker 3 (35:53):
I don't know how much I trust Sam Darnold. Like
Philly is the team right now? Them in I would
say the Rams and the Packers, and maybe you could
throw the lines. With the Lions, I don't think are
making the playoffs. They're the teams that have the quarterbacks
that trust. I trust Sam, I'll trust Matt Stafford, I'll
trust Jayalen Hurts.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
Why both those guys did what won the Super Bowl?

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Like, I mean, they've got playoff experience. I've seen him
do it, not just playoff experience. They got rings like
they got Lombardies. So I'll trust those guys.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
And then.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Man, I like Jordan Love a lot, though I really
really do. He goes in, he wins the game in Dallas.
They're up at San Francisco two years ago, and he
had two interceptions. One was his fault, the other one
goes off the receiver's hands. And that's kind of been
like the story. And there's people that are kind of
halfway in and out on on on Matt Lafloor as
the head coach there. So to answer your question, and
it's still Philly and the Rams to me, because they

(36:48):
have the two quarterbacks that have the top records in
the league that I trust more than Drake may Bo Knicks, Caleb.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
Williams, Daniel Jones and Sam Darnold. But you know, we
can put that the rest.

Speaker 8 (37:01):
Man.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
We'll touch on a little bit when we come back.
Arnie Spayer VJ.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Husky sitting in for Jason Smith and his best friend
Mike Harmon. We'll talk more Bears when we come back.
See if the Bears are for reals he already thinks
on that.

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Speaker 3 (37:21):
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the Big Vanilla Sports Talk Poppy and my man Arnie
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we say tonight. We love to come back and read
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(37:43):
it's all love.

Speaker 4 (37:44):
It's all love.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
So broadcasts a lot from the tire rach excuse me
for Fox Sports Radio Studios, Shay, I can say it
on live, definitely. We have to do the player today
and I know we're supposed to do it last hour
or what have you. But if you want to go
ahead and still do to play today today, we can
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Speaker 2 (38:01):
But before we.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
Even go there, the Bears get the dub today, Arnie,
just where are you on the man?

Speaker 3 (38:07):
Are are they are they? Now? Like for okay, we
stopped the all I'm kind of waiting to see about
the Bears. Caleb Williams, Ben Johnson. They got weapons, man,
and their defense leads the league in turnovers, like they
create turnovers, they get the ball back for him as
the mention, and now we see two eighty one on
the ground today running.

Speaker 6 (38:24):
You know, well, the show is today.

Speaker 5 (38:27):
So as of today, the Bears are probably the You
could make a case for them to be the second
best team in the NFL now that they've beat Philadelphia.
And if you really want, the Bear fans will make
a case that they're better than the Rams. And right now,
if they played the Rams on the neutral site, I'm
not so sure I wouldn't be taking the Chicago Bears.
Was kind of ridiculous that there were a seven point
underdog at the Philadelphia I mean, I could I see

(38:49):
the line there, but it probably should have been more
like three and a half to four.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
No, I'm much more on.

Speaker 5 (38:56):
The Bears bandwagon now after what I saw today. Now,
granted there's drank the victory, still mighty horrible coming into
that game, so it helps it a little bit. They've
not beaten anybody, so it's only going to get interesting
to see how many more big Wednesday A. But like
you said, you can only play who's on your schedule,
and this show is today, So as of today, yeah,
I'm I'm in president with the Bears and I'm ready

(39:18):
to get on that Bear wagon.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
And speaking of the Bears in there winning today, it
is now time for the high I RAQ Play of
the Day.

Speaker 8 (39:25):
Ball the twenty eight snap to cadob fixed the Swift
rolling to his left, being chased.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Gotta throw deep, He's got come in over the shoulder
and down touchdown.

Speaker 8 (39:35):
Bears touchdown cold, come in wanna play call by Ben Johnson.
Had a throw perfectly timed Caleb to Cole Bears extended
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(40:12):
Cole Comett won me two Fantasy championships like two three
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it's a Cole Comett. But if you is, you're here
to highlight right there, kayleb Williams, the rollout throw man.
That's a that's a hell of a throw. That's hard
to do. That some of the flashes that we've seen
from Caleb Williams when he was in Oklahoma and when

(40:34):
he was at USC just some of the things that
people always could.

Speaker 4 (40:38):
See and that's his thing.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
And Ben Johnson once again, I talked about coaching with
the Eagles in the play switching, even if it's at
forty one forty, at what point is the quarterback in
the offensive mind having the right conversations.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
We had great first conversation for the first hour.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
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