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Dan Beyer and Mike Harmon give their reactions to the best weekend of football in NFL history. The guys give their thoughts on the NFL's overtime rules. Dan, Mike, and Executive Producer Ryan Burschinger continue their first look at the 2022 fantasy football season with a mock draft of picks 25-36! How should you approach tight end in next year's draft? How far have Ezekiel Elliott and Aaron Jones fallen? Is there a cliff you need to watch out for at wide receiver?
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And now let's get your flex on. Here's Dan Buyer
and Mike Carman. It is another episode of I Want
Your Flax, and we've never had an episode like this
coming off the heels of what we saw this past weekend.
And I know we're a little separated from it, Mike,
but the whole feelings of what happened on Saturday then
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leading into Sunday end up still kind of resonating, even
though we're we're trying to look ahead of the championship week.
Just an amazing weekend of football that we saw in
those four divisional games. Well, the crazy thing, right as
you and I sit down to record this, we're in
the middle of a Monday, and the Saturday games, as
you said, seemed like a lifetime ago, and Cincinnati Tennessee
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seems so boring, right what it's what it's all said
and down it's like, Wow, what a great game. Mcpheerson
is a hero and at Borrow got like bludgeoned and
left all over, piece of him all over that turf.
It didn't matter. They still win and that's by far
the lowest ranking of the four games. When it comes
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to consequence, just think about that. You're watching Saturday and
you just see the Bengals win on the last second
kick off of a turnover with twenty seconds left, and
you say, this is gonna be the worst game are
gonna have this weekend? Like, think about like how stoked
you would have had to have been. And that is
if you're not a Packers or Bills fan or a
Buccaneers fan. Get my gun Twitter at Swollen Dumb. You
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can find me on Twitter at Dan Buyer on Fox.
Let's dive into the topic everybody's talking about. By the way,
we will get to our draft. We are in round
number three. We will be doing today for our look
ahead to the two fantasy draft. Ryan Burrshinger, our executive producer,
will join us as well as Ryan, Mike and myself
will end up just doing a draft, no lineup set,
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but just who we think is best available fantasy players
looking ahead the next season. We are through two rounds,
so we will get rum three done, but we will
do that after we talk about overtime gates, overtime drama
with what unfolded in Kansas City. Chiefs end up rallying
with thirteen seconds left to get the game tying field goal.
Then they get the coin toss and go down and
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score against Buffalo when forty two to thirty six, So
the Bills are sent home. Kansas City moves on with
an overtime rule that many are not happy with. Well,
Saltiness said, you had to come away with the weekend
unsatisfied and angry about something, didn't you. I mean, there's
too much of everybody joining hand across this globe and
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going what glorious football? And then you know you can't
have everybody happy going into a new work week. No,
we were cheated. We were a good winked, bamboozled. How
about you play some defense. Okay, maybe I'm trying to
speak something in new existence that nobody wants to hear.
You had two chances to stop them regulation and then
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in overtime, and Leslie Fraser may get a head coaching job.
He may be a fine head coach, but if you're
gonna tell me all this time his credentials and and
what he's done with this top ranked defense to warrant
getting a look at a top job. Well, then play
defense and go make a stop and then you get
to stop Patrick Mahomes and spike the ball. Are aren't
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they independent of each other? Like like I get it,
Like I understand, like Buffalo had an opportunity if they
could just stop Kansas City with thirteen seconds left, I
understand that their defense didn't didn't win the game for them. However,
the Kansas City's defense was never put in a city
suation where it needed to get a stop when they
couldn't get a stop either in the most important time
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of the game, which ended up being in overtime. And
that that's that's where I like, I I understand the
defenses aren't stopping anybody, but to me, it's it's independent
of of one another. Just because the Bills didn't stop
anybody doesn't mean that they should also then should have
stopped someone in overtime, and it's their fault that they
lost because Kansas City's defense. If it would have been
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the if it would have been the opposite scenario, I
think we would have been saying the same thing if
if Josh Allen and the Bills won the toss and
went down and scored, and we just saw Patrick Mahomes
get his team and field goal position in thirteen seconds.
And then for Kansas City would say, man, this is
the second time in four years they've been screwed with
the overtime coin toss. I almost think that the outrage
would have been worse if it would have happened on
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the flip side, which kind of tells me that the
rule does need to be changed, and and it can
be changed, Mike, It can be changed at least in
playoffs scenarios if you move forward like this. But that
that's just it was tough for me to see how
great of a game ended up being and then you
just ended up losing on the heads or tails. Well,
and the score shouldn't accounted because Tyreek Hill should have
been called for taunting based on twenty Yeah, yes, that's
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true anyway, or any number of his teammates doing you know,
snow angels holding up there there the touchdown symbol in
whatever else is it? Like he was the reason for
the rule, right, like like it's the Tyreek Hill rule, yes,
giving the peace sign and doing back flips and then
you know Antoine Winfield did it to him in the
Super Bowl, like the reverse thing. So they're like, Okay,
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we gotta put a stop to but it's his freaking
rule and they didn't even call it. Yeah, after a
day where we'd or two days where we've seen a
lot of those, right, and you had Tom Brady getting
bloodied and hit in the face and nobody cared because
it was Hockeyley top five penalty, top five penalty crew
of the year Dan, So we knew that going in
that you'd have a couple and amazingly only eight for
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the game, but three on Sportsman lights on uh Tampa
in that first half of that game. But yeah, look,
I've always just been an advocate of whatever. Whether it's
fifteen minutes or ten minutes, it's another quarter, right, it's
the playoffs. Playoffs are different. Yes, I have people saying, hey,
let's do the college thing. Man. I hate the college
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over time as it stands right now. That is that
is not my my favorite. I like timed uh sequences
in sports. I think that when you look at when
we look back at history and we look at what
transpired in Kansas City, we can take other instances and
I wouldn't say, go from college football, but you know
Chargers Dolphins, was that legendary game or Kevin Winslow had
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to be carried off? I know it's way back in
the way back in the early eighties, but if if
you have a marathon game, it's okay. It's happened before.
And and I guess, Mike my solution, because that's actually
all that I really want from people. If people want
to complain about it, that's one thing, but come up
with a solution, at least your idea with what would
work better. I'm all for it. The NFL in the
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regular season, you know how much I hate it. Ten
minute session is absurd, but I understand why they do it.
I don't think it's fair. They just want the game
to get over with and not interrupt sixty minutes or
interrupt the late window. How care you? How dare you
making about television? It's about player safety, that extra five
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minutes that they would have to play. But that's that's
the reason why they have a ten minute overtime. But
for people that didn't make me realize what they were
watching on the clock. And you mentioned it earlier, guess
what the overtime session in the playoffs is a fifteen
minute quarter, so you are doing a different because the
game wouldn't end in a tie, and obviously we have
to decide a winner. But there was a change just
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with the timing of overtime that was that was different,
and I'm sad that that wouldn't make a difference if
you had a forty Niners team that went in overtime
and took eight minutes off of the clock on a drive,
if it was a ten minute session and you had
to restart it over, then you know that would factor in.
But the NFL says we are going to take a
fifteen minute quarter now for the playoffs because it's the playoffs.
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To me, they could also say, all right, we will
ensure that at least each team gets a one possession
to be able to uh to at least try to
do something in that overtime, and after that point then
you can be sudden death. But they've made changes from
the regular season overtime rule, uh, from the regular season
to the playoffs, and I think that they could do
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that again this time. Yeah, I think you know again,
you know, we always talk about complaints and it's always
the fire, this guy or whatever. All right, give me
a solution that that's going to make the team better. Right, Oh,
this quarterback stinks, all right, find me a guy who's
available who's gonna make it better. And obviously, as we
get into the carousel, both finishing the coaches side and
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and quarterbacks and movement this offseason, that's gonna be a
very difficult task because many more spots that have than
than than players that seemed worth of filling them in
some cases. But for the overtime rule, you know, it
is one of the more asinine things. I get it,
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and the numbers bear it out right when the coin
tossed and down you go. Uh. And that's certainly vexing
frustrated as a guy who's you know, been one of
the leaders of the Josh Allen vandwagon. Yeah, I wanted
to see him to get shot. But he called tales
and he was wrong, Dan, Yes, it was supposed to.
I mean were that we were all taught, so we
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it's like telling me, sorry, kids, that there's no Santa Claus.
I mean, come on that, well, there is a Santa
Claus at least, But in this case, Tales never Fails
is not legit. That is a that is a lie.
No more truisms there. And let me tell you if
this this scenario, this, this will be my final point.
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And again I think that the NFL can just say
each team gets a possession in the playoffs. If you
don't want to do it for the regular season, that's fine,
it's the regular season. Whatever. You've got different rules. You
have games to figure out, you know, if you lose
one there as long as you don't keep finding yourself
in overtime or close games. That's also the other thing
for Buffalo. Stop playing close games. You're not good at them.
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That's that's a fair, very fair point. The other point
that I would make is I think that this is unique, Mike,
because the maybe the most notable game outside of the
a f C Championship game where we had the overtime
was Super Bowl fifty one, when New England came back
from twenty to three against Atlanta that we all know about,
and when the Patriots ended up winning the toss, you
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just kind of felt that the game was over, and
it ended up being over because they went and drove
down and scored right away. I would say, what would
happen on the flip side of things and in that scenario.
The reason why I don't think it's as big it
was made as big of a deal Mike, was because
there was no guarantee the Falcons were gonna we're gonna
score because they didn't score after they went up three,
then score any more points in that game, and so
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there would have been the question, Okay, maybe you could
stop Atlanta. And that's what made Sunday Night's game so
crazy was we're seeing team score in a minute, under
a minute, in thirteen seconds, and that's why it was
so magnified. Like there have been other games where this
has happened before, but to see the pinball game that
you had in the final, you know, five minutes of regulation,
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these teams just going up and down the field, to
then have that come to a sudden halt and change
it overtime, that that's was the difference to me. Because
Super Bowl fifty one, you could have made an argument,
but there wasn't an argument because there was really no
guarantee that the Falcons were going to score. And I
think that's what made it different from Sunday. Yeah, it
was just interesting, right because in the early game, the
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idea that perhaps you were going to get to overtime
as Tampa has the furious come back, and I know
for Matthew Stafford detractors, they're really mad that none of
the errors, all the turnovers were on on him. Yeah,
George and I were doing the live show and I'm
just saying, there's no way you can pin this, no
way that you can pin this on Matthew Stafford. Everybody
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on the Rams is messing except Matthew Stafford, and that's
how it played out when he ends up making the
play at the end. But I mean, just amazing right now,
s Arians in the post, you know, saying, hey, we
had the right call, just not the execution. Maybe maybe not.
Somehow you keep losing Cooper Cup, which is always bad
for business, But think about that game suddenly going to overtime.
Would you have trusted the Rams to win the game
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in overtime? Um? So it's one of those kinds of situation,
same thing I mean, and obviously shock and awe that
they were able to move into position to kick that
winning field goal in the final half minute, which is
just amazing. Theater which which the entire weekend was again
not to detigrate the world of the Bengals and Titans.
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But uh, no rule changes are coming out of that,
except for maybe you know, you have to look a
little better at your draft board in your NFL war
rooms to decide whether it warrants grabbing a guy in
the fifth round. Maybe maybe there's a change. And we
we remember and we pushed aside the memory of Aguayo. Ah, yes,
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Roberto Aguayou. I heard of Bill Grammatica reference oh recently
and uh and that's way back in the way back.
But I think it was a celebration. Kicker made a
celebration and celebration and then get hurt. Listen, I'll say that.
You know, like sometimes sometimes kickers they may have a
rough go of it at first. You know, look at
Daniel Carlson with the with the Raiders and time he
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had with the Vikings. Uh the uh, you know, sometimes
you gotta stick with these kickers and they can they
can pay off. Well, you mean like the Bears should
have actually paid Robbie Gold Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know
what's funny, my brother sent me the the greatest meme
after that, the game winner went through the forty Niners
Packers was a shot a slow motion of Ryan Pace
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leaving soldier field. It's like he had one hit left,
planted this seed by cutting gold years ago to rip
Aaron oh Man. Good stuff. All right, there it is.
There is your recap from the Vision Old Playoff Weekend.
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in our executive producer, Ryan Burr Singer as we look
ahead to the two fantasy season again. Ryan, Mike and
I have been doing a draft with no lineups. The
PPR League scoring format is how we've addressed this, and
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we just want to get your prepped and what we
think and how we think the orders should go and
drafting the best available players that we think will be
available in the two draft. So as we bring Ryan
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Burr Singer, Mike carm and get him on Twitter at
swollend Home and find me on Twitter at Dan Buyer
on Fox. How did the second round go? Bursch, I
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know that you've got a copy in front of you.
I do as well, But how did we How did
we run down the second round that started? I know
I was a little frustrated because I wasn't sure of
my Tyreek Hill on the back end of the first
round was gonna allow me to get the guy that
I wanted at the start of the second. It did happen,
But how did our second round go? So yes, starting
at thirteen was Joe Mixon fourteen, Stefon Diggs fifteen, Jamaar
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Chase sixteen, Nick Chubb seventeen, Deebo Samuel eighteen, Javonte Williams nineteen,
Travis Kelsey twenty, Cam Acres one, DK Metcalf two, Keenan Allen,
twenty three Darren Waller, and twenty four Antonio Gibson. Okay,
that's how the second round played out. So, Mike, as
we are just on the verge of starting our third round,
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there are some interesting names out there. Anything stand out
to you as we enter the third round and what
we could see in our next wealth picks that we
make in our fantasy draft. Well, one thing, it shows
the three of us have decided we're not jumping on
quarterbacks immediately right, which has been a trend the last
couple of years. Go up and get your guy, even
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though you know that muddled mess behind and what five
through twelve don't have much variance to them at all,
So that that's certainly is the case. We've got two
tight ends that have already come off the board. I
would suspect they'll be joined again. Top heavy kind of
list there, but you know patients. When it comes to
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guys in the in the unknowns, right, Christian McCaffrey goes ten.
I see in a number of industry things UH popping
off for the next year. He's still a top four
or five guy on most sites. And all right, not
only are you worried about his injuries, but who the
hell slinging the rock there? And what does it look like?
And if they're bringing in dudes that ran the Giants offense,
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Like if McAdoo shows up there, really suddenly that's going
to be the thing that catapults them to greatness. Come on,
it's either going to UH works in a spectacular fashion
or fail miserably. And I I just I am on
the side of not trusting Christian McCaffrey. Plus, I just
think there are a lot of other names that are
more reliable that you can get ahead of him. You
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mentioned injuries. That's what I think this third round is
going to be about, because now you're starting to see
guys some that may have missed a good part of
the season or all of the season that could be
in the conversation and in coming back from injuries. There
are certain names who had cam Akers is Ryan mentioned
did go in the second round twenty overall in our draft,
but there are other names that pop up. I also
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think that there are injury prone players that are in
this third round. So let's, uh, let's see what we
have to offer Ryan Burr, string or you are on
the clock, it goes Ryan, Mike and then myself and
then we just continue in that order, all right, Versus
you look at these players that are ahead of you,
with twenty four players in the rear view mirror, what
are you focusing on and pick number twenty five? Well,
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as Mike mentioned, tight end is is super top heavy,
and I think over the last few years especially, I've
started to more subscribe to the strategy of getting a
very strong tight end to not have a hole in
your roster. It's very easily, very easy to get stuck
with a hole at tight end. And you look at
last year at tight end, like Dawson Knox was tight
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end four on the season, and in terms of total points, sure, yeah,
he he ended up there, but he had weeks where
he was downright terrible, including a zero in week seventeen.
So I want to get a steady tight end and
you have a guy available right now who was tight
end one on the season. So I'm going to take
Mark Andrews here at so Burst does not subscribe to
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the I'll just take Evan Ingram late in the in
the draft and watch him surprise everyone, like everybody has
wished for the last five years. So Mark Andrews tight
end number three now off the board. After Waller and
Kelsey went Mike Harmon Europe at number twenty six back
in Well, I mean, look, if we're gonna do, why
don't we do a veritable tight end run then and
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give me my my Iowa boy. All right, no fans, No,
I'm just kidding. No fan probably is a top six guy.
And when it's all said, would yeah again Marv Cook,
who always made it into those Iowa tight end graphics.
We're at like seven guys just like that. That is
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that is good Iowa's tight end knowledge. That's what they
would do. They didn't even get a Hawkinson. They they
had this great run with Fans Hawkinson, Kittle and then
Dallas Clark obviously, but to like fill out the graphic,
they would throw Marv Cook in there. From the eatings
and nineties and the New England Patriots back when we
didn't mind the Patriots. George Kittle goes number twenty six
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overall in tight end number four. Kittle is off the board.
That brings me up to the plate. And I had
actually been debating this and I'm not going to I
I I think that there will be a bounce back
and know that there could be a change. I don't
know if there will be a change though after what
we saw a little over a week and a half ago.
The first Dallas Cowboy off the board will be Ceedee Lamb.
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I am going to take Ceedee Lamb at number twenty seven.
I know that there there are other Dallas Cowboys that
could be available, including Ezekiel Elliott, but I trust Ceedee
Lamb more of the breakout uh year that we expected
his sophomore season to maybe come next season. Give me
Ceedee Lamb at number twenty seven. Like that not to
be labor the Dallas point. We have plenty of off
season to bandy this about. But how different does that
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squad look? Right? Are they able to get someone to
take Elliott's contract? Is Amari Cooper back because obviously Jerry
Jones hates him and he was bad at him because
he was unvaccinated, not available to him first stretch, and
then the disappearing act at times, and then we don't
you finished terribly, So someone's got to go, especially after
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you've said all the right things and brought them in
and paid them a lot of money. And we know
that Jerry Jones doesn't want to be hanging with Mr Cooper.
We'll see if that happens in two. Alright, Ryan bur
shing Er, you are back up at pick number twenty
eight overall. Yeah, this is an interesting spot because I'm
looking at guys who have kind of battled with injuries.
As you mentioned, Dan, We're gonna be seeing a lot
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of that in this round. Here. I'm going to go
ahead and take A. J. Brown, and I'm going to
bet on his ceiling, bet on his talent. We saw
what he could do in uh In in weeks sixteen
closing out the season there had a huge game when
he came back after being injured for a few weeks.
The talent is there. He's just got to stay healthy.
So I'm gonna take J. J. Brown here. Let's also
be real, if A. J. Brown doesn't have the game
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that he has on Saturday, maybe we are moving him
down a little bit in the rankings to see where
the Titan wide receiver goes. But in looking at the
other names out there, I think that yeah, A. J.
Brown Is is definitely worthy of a pick at this point.
But I do think that this past he cant helped
his help this draft spot top of mind, no question
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about it. I had him as a w R five
for this past year, so clearly I liked him. I
want to like him even three awesome games and then
the rest and well not four with the loss to
to cincident in the playoffs, but that's what you got
from them. But even looking at Ryan Tannehill, there were
a number of balls that he threw, including the touchdown
to Brown where you're like, see this guy can sling it,
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and then he does things like after yeah, now we're
going back to the playoffs, how do you have Dante
form and give you a forty five yard run? Uh
then throw that interception? And how does form and only
have four carries in the game? Dan Fire, I was
surprised about that. I I thought it would be more
of a split workload than it was actually and uh yeah,
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they just gave Henry Henry every not that it was
the difference. But to your point of yeah, if you're
gonna do that and that's what got you to the playoffs,
why would you change. Yeah, he was able to carry
it for half a year to the number one seat.
As FARTI you're off, But what do I know. I'm
just a dope on the radio. All right, let's get
back into it. So Edwards, Kittle, Lamb Brown gone thus far? Uh,
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this seems like a spot to try to figure out
and read the tea leaves of a guy with a
big workload left at the running back position. Uh. And
while I will be called a homer, I'll take David Montgomery. Hey,
Matt Naggie's not there to screw it up anymore. It's
true that I I was curious because I think that
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there is another name out there on if you were
to go this name or go David Montgomery. I will
be honest. When I took Antonio Gibson number twenty four,
I had considered David Montgomery in that spot, which then
just completely doesn't explain why it took Ceedee lamb at
But I ended up taking CD and and and pick
number thirty. Since you took Montgomery, who was going to
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be my pick if you didn't take him. I know
this is a bit of a reach, but I still
think that you talk about workload, it will be there
if he is healthy, and I will take se Kwon
Barkley at number thirty with having no idea what's going
to happen with the Giants coaching situation. He is still
se Kwon Barkley, and if you can straighten some stuff
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up in the off season when we did our pot
a few weeks ago, when we're talking about coaching changes,
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back RB in our rankings as we moved to pick
number thirty one with Ryan bur Singer. I like that,
(29:44):
say quan pick. Actually, I was about to do that,
so I I endorse it, and I think that the
the other running backs available right now. It's weird because
you have steady guys and strong offenses. You have guys
who were first round picks this last season and might
be having too much of a workload at the moment
um or not enough of a workload at the moment.
I'm going to take Deonte Johnson here because I think
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his his his workload is very high. He gets targeted
like crazy, and you know, they've they've got to have
a better quarterback. Maybe than than than than no arm
he I already had my analysis written for this one
personally following me, someone will be able to get the
ball five yards beyond the line of scrimmage, it opens up.
(30:28):
I I appreciate Ryan berging or having a pick righty
after I took Barkley, because if it was like a
guy in our league, he would jump right back into
his magazine because he only had Plan A, like there
was no Plan B. And once Plan A went off
the board, he started from scratch and started back at
zero and started over again. So I appreciate you having
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a backup plan with that. Always have a backup alright.
Deonte Johnson is a wide receiver. Twelve Mike Harmon up
with five more picks in our third round of our
twenty two Fantasy Draft. Well, I'll assume he's back and healthy, um,
and I'm going back through the board making sure he
hasn't been picked. But give me DeAndre Hopkins. Yes, he
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is available. One of the names as well. When we
talked about injury wise on where you want to take
a guy that he was, he was he was foremost
on my mind. Him and another guy that hasn't been
picked yet were actually the two names that really popped out,
and see Kwon Barkley. When we talked about guys who
were injured or deal with injuries, DeAndre Hopkins was one
of those guys. I have one more guy, and maybe
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we're kindred spirits and thinking the same way. Uh One
thing I would want to know, I mean, Kingsbury, show
me your plan for playing in the second half of
a season. I'll sit back and wait, so will I
so will uh so will Steve Kim? But that's a
whole other thing, all right for a job. All Right,
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there are a lot of good names on the board,
and this is a decision that I actually have to
face in one of my leagues when it comes to
two keepers, I have to do it either or, and
it usually isn't wise. And Ryan bur Singer started out
as we started this draft kind of talking about this.
I'm gonna take the first quarterback off the board, and
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it maybe recency bias, but Josh Allen goes off the
board at number thirty three. When you just saw what
he did in the these two playoff games that they had,
it makes you think like, oh, my goodness, could you
imagine having that for sixteen or seventeen weeks of a
fantasy season. So Josh Allen is going to be QB
one off of our board, number thirty three overall. So
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it took thirty two picks until a thirty three picks
until the quarterback was finally taken. All right, final three
picks of our third round of our fantasy draft. Make
these count, guys, because this is what's gonna You're gonna
be kicking yourself for over the next until we get
to round number four. Make these picks count. Ryan Burr
Shinger eure up at number thirty four. Um, I'm gonna
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go ahead and take Mike Evans here because if Chris
Godwin doesn't come back, he's then the clear number one
in this offense. And you know, Tom Brady, I don't know,
he may retire, he probably won't. I still think that
they're going to find a way to get Mike Evans
the ball a ton in that offense. So I'll take
Evans here. I have no idea how Tom Brady would
walk away from this after the season he just had.
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I didn't like, yeah, you know, I was gonna say
that story like it's just it's it's so NFL insiers
do this because they wanted for that Sunday That wasn't
like a story, Mike that popped up at ten o'clock
Saturday night and then was need needed to be broken
at that point or early the next morning. You know,
this has been sitting there, and it just tells me
that it's not really a story. Like if you're waiting
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to unveil that, you know, six hours before kickoff of
you know, the Tampa game, to make it a conversation
for your pregame show, that to me just then tells
me maybe it's not as much of a story as
we thought it was. No, I just kind of shrugged.
It's like I looked at doing the Morning show with
Bucky Brooks. We've gone through a ton of stuff, right, obviously,
(34:12):
a lot of breakdown, a lot of Rogers podcast up,
I Heart Radio app and anywhere you get your podcast,
go grab it, give it five stars, will love you forever,
and evangelized your friends. Uh Like, look, I took Roger's apart,
uh nine thousand different ways. But at some point I
looked at Bucky and a break I go, do you
care to talk about this the left? Because it's a
(34:32):
big deal now so I think we made a similar
joke on air and just went in to analyze the game.
It's like, really, let's start talking about the history of
Kyle trassk everybody. It's like, no, alright, Mike Evans though,
um yeah, wing it up and Brady still had the
arm strength to get it to him downfield as Jalen
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Jalen Ramsey kind of disappeared on that converage, now, didn't he?
But we move forward. Now there's a number of guys
that I like in the next spot, but they don't
really just spread apart. I wanted Josh Allen, but you
stole them from me. Uh and uh, you may steal
a guy from me because I have someone targeted at
thirty six. So I'm gonna take a wide receiver that
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we haven't seen in a very very long time, Okay,
and I am going to roll the dice that this works.
Now there's another guy I like, and I'm curious to
see what the quarterback position is and what the new
regime is. Uh, lots of money to spend, you know,
all that fun stuff. But I'm going to go out
and roll the dice that Calvin Ridley finds himself. Oh wow,
(35:43):
Calvin Ridley off the board. I've heard some New England
connections with Calvin Ridley. We don't think he's gonna be
back in Atlanta. The curiosity, you know, there's a bunch
of guys that are kind of the same, and I'm
looking at all, right, where's my upside, where's my potential
push at this point in the draft, And so they're
I'll roll the dice there. Why because it's spicy and
(36:07):
Bursch can put it in there, going what do you
think of this? Ah? This is by the way, I
think that we like with with Ridley. There is a
line at the wide receiver position, and I think that
we have now crossed it there there there's there's a
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name that I think, you know what, I'm not going
to pick him here. I will tell you who it
is in the fourth round. But I think that we've
crossed that line of being now we're into the next
group of wide receivers. Like I think that that is
that is where we are in this draft. So I
am avoiding the wide receiver position. If he stays healthy,
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I would be very very happy to have Elijah Mitchell
at number thirty six. So I'm gonna go the forty
Niners running back, and I think he keeps the job
no matter what they've they've done. Considering the way that
he runs, an how he has run this season, and
the how much San Francisco likes to run. I would
take Elijah Mitchell thirty six. There there there was a
wide receiver that I really liked, and I'll write it
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down and then we'll talk about it in the fourth round.
But I think when once Ridley went off the board,
now you just kind of started not to see just guys,
not jags as we like to say, but they're just
there wasn't as much separation as I thought with the
with the other guys that were taken. Yeah, I mean,
I like the Mitchell pick wide receiver position. Right, They're
all kind of the same, and it's trying to figure
(37:31):
out where where's the upside ye again one guy on
my brain where I'm like, all right, we saw some
good but there's potential for this to be unlocked if
everything breaks right. But it's a question of well does
it But well, I'm sure tackle that in the next
twelve picks. Uh, no question. But Elijah Mitchell, I mean, look,
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the forty Niners are still playing and a lot of
it is his emergence right when most went down and
it was gonna be a committee situation, and it is
to a degree because right Deebo Samuels RB wanted times.
I mean, but you look at mitchell tough yardage and
trust well that that staff has in him. I think
there's also there could also be the counter answer of
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Trey Lance ends up getting the job. How much does
Elijah Mitchell's maybe go line work be effected or just
even running the football. I don't think it would change
that much, but something to look at in the off season.
So for the Elijah Mitchell detractors, that would be something
that they would point to. All Right, that wraps up
our third round. So we are halfway through, means we
have three more podcasts left in the season. They will
(38:36):
come out every Tuesday's. We're now doing them weekly. Big
thanks to Ryan bur Singer UH and my Carmen. I'm
Dan Buyer. This has been a lot of fun. Any
final thoughts burst from what you saw in the draft.
I'll let you go get him on Twitter at Ryan
bur Singer at these twelve picks. Any final thoughts, Yeah,
As Harmon mentioned, I think Elijah Mitchell. I think that's
a great spot for him, and I could see that
stock rising even higher as we get closer to the
(38:57):
season where there's more certainty in terms of his role.
As you were talking about with receivers, Dan, there's a
couple of receivers that I wasn't crazy about taking in
the third round, but I would absolutely love as fourth
round picks. And Uh, I think it's one more thing.
It's interesting the kind of elephants in the room at
the moment. You've got Ezekiel Elliott and Aaron Jones, guys
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who were taking in the first round of this last season,
and you watch their their stock continue to kind of fall.
As you saw, there are other counterparts and been running back.
Uh excel in the way the guys in the tandem
outplayed them. Yeah, it's so it's it's so interesting where
the name feels like you should be taking him around
(39:38):
this time, but you look at it logically and you're like, no,
I just it doesn't feel right. So be interesting to
see where those guys end up. Harmon, I'll let you
have the last word. And all of this is we
are thirty six picks in well him Brian mentioned Jones
like Elliott I wouldn't touch I don't think right whether
he's in Dallas, Pollard going to have a big say.
But because of his salary, I guess Zeke would still
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getting his his turn now if he moved someplace else. Yeah,
maybe maybe there's more value with Jones so long as
he's in Green Bay with A J. Dillon who had
that broken rib. I mean, obviously that's part of the
forty Niners Packers game that nobody's talking about. Hey, A J.
Dillon wasn't there, although they weren't using it much anyway
because went to the two man game. Hey, there was
(40:22):
one guy talking about it, and it was me because
I was totally critical of myself yesterday on Sunday Show
in saying I think A. J. Dillon's injury played a
big part of this while everybody was talking about Rodgers
and the special teams. By the way, that will not
make the the hot take theater that that is usually
out there, Mike, that you love so much that you
have phrased. But I do think I agree with you.
(40:42):
I think that A. J. Dillon's injury did play a
role in that game. Just maybe he would have trusted
him because he sure as hell didn't trust anybody else.
It was Aaron Jones or I'm gonna fire it through
three guys to get to Davante Adams, no matter whether
Lazard was running free or not. Uh, and beat it
from there. Wide receivers all look the same. Uh. The
(41:03):
quarterback position you got Alan off the board. And now
the curiosity whether we have I mean, I guess it
would be a two man run, whether Bursh and I
fight over who's next. But certainly, uh, you know, it's
a position that is is fluid because you do have
those top performers. How one of them still alive in
the playoffs and his kicker bailed about over and Joe
(41:26):
Chill over there, but you know, went wondering how quickly
the rest of these guys come off the board. And
it's all that sense and sensibility and changing face of
the game between reality and fantasy. And that's why I
love doing these months in advance, because we know the
chess pieces are going to be moving all over the board. Yeah,
this is I think these next three rounds will be
very very interesting, especially to see where a guy like
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zek Elliott could fall. All right, So for Ryan Bursting
our executive producer and for Mike Harmen, I'm Dan Buyer.
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and Mike Carman. It is another episode of I Want
Your Flax, and we've never had an episode like this
coming off the heels of what we saw this past weekend.
And I know we're a little separated from it, Mike,
but the whole feelings of what happened on Saturday then
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leading into Sunday end up still kind of resonating, even
though we're we're trying to look ahead of the championship week.
Just an amazing weekend of football that we saw in
those four divisional games. Well, the crazy thing, right as
you and I sit down to record this, we're in
the middle of a Monday, and the Saturday games, as
you said, seemed like a lifetime ago, and Cincinnati Tennessee
(02:13):
seems so boring, right what it's what it's all said
and down it's like, Wow, what a great game. Mcpheerson
is a hero and at Borrow got like bludgeoned and
left all over, piece of him all over that turf.
It didn't matter. They still win and that's by far
the lowest ranking of the four games. When it comes
(02:34):
to consequence, just think about that. You're watching Saturday and
you just see the Bengals win on the last second
kick off of a turnover with twenty seconds left, and
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Let's dive into the topic everybody's talking about. By the way,
we will get to our draft. We are in round
number three. We will be doing today for our look
ahead to the two fantasy draft. Ryan Burrshinger, our executive producer,
will join us as well as Ryan, Mike and myself
will end up just doing a draft, no lineup set,
(03:17):
but just who we think is best available fantasy players
looking ahead the next season. We are through two rounds,
so we will get rum three done, but we will
do that after we talk about overtime gates, overtime drama
with what unfolded in Kansas City. Chiefs end up rallying
with thirteen seconds left to get the game tying field goal.
Then they get the coin toss and go down and
(03:39):
score against Buffalo when forty two to thirty six, So
the Bills are sent home. Kansas City moves on with
an overtime rule that many are not happy with. Well,
Saltiness said, you had to come away with the weekend
unsatisfied and angry about something, didn't you. I mean, there's
too much of everybody joining hand across this globe and
(04:01):
going what glorious football? And then you know you can't
have everybody happy going into a new work week. No,
we were cheated. We were a good winked, bamboozled. How
about you play some defense. Okay, maybe I'm trying to
speak something in new existence that nobody wants to hear.
You had two chances to stop them regulation and then
(04:24):
in overtime, and Leslie Fraser may get a head coaching job.
He may be a fine head coach, but if you're
gonna tell me all this time his credentials and and
what he's done with this top ranked defense to warrant
getting a look at a top job. Well, then play
defense and go make a stop and then you get
to stop Patrick Mahomes and spike the ball. Are aren't
(04:45):
they independent of each other? Like like I get it,
Like I understand, like Buffalo had an opportunity if they
could just stop Kansas City with thirteen seconds left, I
understand that their defense didn't didn't win the game for them. However,
the Kansas City's defense was never put in a city
suation where it needed to get a stop when they
couldn't get a stop either in the most important time
(05:06):
of the game, which ended up being in overtime. And
that that's that's where I like, I I understand the
defenses aren't stopping anybody, but to me, it's it's independent
of of one another. Just because the Bills didn't stop
anybody doesn't mean that they should also then should have
stopped someone in overtime, and it's their fault that they
lost because Kansas City's defense. If it would have been
(05:28):
the if it would have been the opposite scenario, I
think we would have been saying the same thing if
if Josh Allen and the Bills won the toss and
went down and scored, and we just saw Patrick Mahomes
get his team and field goal position in thirteen seconds.
And then for Kansas City would say, man, this is
the second time in four years they've been screwed with
the overtime coin toss. I almost think that the outrage
would have been worse if it would have happened on
(05:49):
the flip side, which kind of tells me that the
rule does need to be changed, and and it can
be changed, Mike, It can be changed at least in
playoffs scenarios if you move forward like this. But that
that's just it was tough for me to see how
great of a game ended up being and then you
just ended up losing on the heads or tails. Well,
and the score shouldn't accounted because Tyreek Hill should have
been called for taunting based on twenty Yeah, yes, that's
(06:12):
true anyway, or any number of his teammates doing you know,
snow angels holding up there there the touchdown symbol in
whatever else is it? Like he was the reason for
the rule, right, like like it's the Tyreek Hill rule, yes,
giving the peace sign and doing back flips and then
you know Antoine Winfield did it to him in the
Super Bowl, like the reverse thing. So they're like, Okay,
(06:33):
we gotta put a stop to but it's his freaking
rule and they didn't even call it. Yeah, after a
day where we'd or two days where we've seen a
lot of those, right, and you had Tom Brady getting
bloodied and hit in the face and nobody cared because
it was Hockeyley top five penalty, top five penalty crew
of the year Dan, So we knew that going in
that you'd have a couple and amazingly only eight for
(06:56):
the game, but three on Sportsman lights on uh Tampa
in that first half of that game. But yeah, look,
I've always just been an advocate of whatever. Whether it's
fifteen minutes or ten minutes, it's another quarter, right, it's
the playoffs. Playoffs are different. Yes, I have people saying, hey,
let's do the college thing. Man. I hate the college
(07:17):
over time as it stands right now. That is that
is not my my favorite. I like timed uh sequences
in sports. I think that when you look at when
we look back at history and we look at what
transpired in Kansas City, we can take other instances and
I wouldn't say, go from college football, but you know
Chargers Dolphins, was that legendary game or Kevin Winslow had
(07:40):
to be carried off? I know it's way back in
the way back in the early eighties, but if if
you have a marathon game, it's okay. It's happened before.
And and I guess, Mike my solution, because that's actually
all that I really want from people. If people want
to complain about it, that's one thing, but come up
with a solution, at least your idea with what would
work better. I'm all for it. The NFL in the
(08:02):
regular season, you know how much I hate it. Ten
minute session is absurd, but I understand why they do it.
I don't think it's fair. They just want the game
to get over with and not interrupt sixty minutes or
interrupt the late window. How care you? How dare you
making about television? It's about player safety, that extra five
(08:22):
minutes that they would have to play. But that's that's
the reason why they have a ten minute overtime. But
for people that didn't make me realize what they were
watching on the clock. And you mentioned it earlier, guess
what the overtime session in the playoffs is a fifteen
minute quarter, so you are doing a different because the
game wouldn't end in a tie, and obviously we have
to decide a winner. But there was a change just
(08:44):
with the timing of overtime that was that was different,
and I'm sad that that wouldn't make a difference if
you had a forty Niners team that went in overtime
and took eight minutes off of the clock on a drive,
if it was a ten minute session and you had
to restart it over, then you know that would factor in.
But the NFL says we are going to take a
fifteen minute quarter now for the playoffs because it's the playoffs.
(09:07):
To me, they could also say, all right, we will
ensure that at least each team gets a one possession
to be able to uh to at least try to
do something in that overtime, and after that point then
you can be sudden death. But they've made changes from
the regular season overtime rule, uh, from the regular season
to the playoffs, and I think that they could do
(09:28):
that again this time. Yeah, I think you know again,
you know, we always talk about complaints and it's always
the fire, this guy or whatever. All right, give me
a solution that that's going to make the team better. Right, Oh,
this quarterback stinks, all right, find me a guy who's
available who's gonna make it better. And obviously, as we
get into the carousel, both finishing the coaches side and
(09:48):
and quarterbacks and movement this offseason, that's gonna be a
very difficult task because many more spots that have than
than than players that seemed worth of filling them in
some cases. But for the overtime rule, you know, it
is one of the more asinine things. I get it,
(10:08):
and the numbers bear it out right when the coin
tossed and down you go. Uh. And that's certainly vexing
frustrated as a guy who's you know, been one of
the leaders of the Josh Allen vandwagon. Yeah, I wanted
to see him to get shot. But he called tales
and he was wrong, Dan, Yes, it was supposed to.
I mean were that we were all taught, so we
(10:30):
it's like telling me, sorry, kids, that there's no Santa Claus.
I mean, come on that, well, there is a Santa
Claus at least, But in this case, Tales never Fails
is not legit. That is a that is a lie.
No more truisms there. And let me tell you if
this this scenario, this, this will be my final point.
(10:52):
And again I think that the NFL can just say
each team gets a possession in the playoffs. If you
don't want to do it for the regular season, that's fine,
it's the regular season. Whatever. You've got different rules. You
have games to figure out, you know, if you lose
one there as long as you don't keep finding yourself
in overtime or close games. That's also the other thing
for Buffalo. Stop playing close games. You're not good at them.
(11:12):
That's that's a fair, very fair point. The other point
that I would make is I think that this is unique, Mike,
because the maybe the most notable game outside of the
a f C Championship game where we had the overtime
was Super Bowl fifty one, when New England came back
from twenty to three against Atlanta that we all know about,
and when the Patriots ended up winning the toss, you
(11:34):
just kind of felt that the game was over, and
it ended up being over because they went and drove
down and scored right away. I would say, what would
happen on the flip side of things and in that scenario.
The reason why I don't think it's as big it
was made as big of a deal Mike, was because
there was no guarantee the Falcons were gonna we're gonna
score because they didn't score after they went up three,
then score any more points in that game, and so
(11:55):
there would have been the question, Okay, maybe you could
stop Atlanta. And that's what made Sunday Night's game so
crazy was we're seeing team score in a minute, under
a minute, in thirteen seconds, and that's why it was
so magnified. Like there have been other games where this
has happened before, but to see the pinball game that
you had in the final, you know, five minutes of regulation,
(12:16):
these teams just going up and down the field, to
then have that come to a sudden halt and change
it overtime, that that's was the difference to me. Because
Super Bowl fifty one, you could have made an argument,
but there wasn't an argument because there was really no
guarantee that the Falcons were going to score. And I
think that's what made it different from Sunday. Yeah, it
was just interesting, right because in the early game, the
(12:36):
idea that perhaps you were going to get to overtime
as Tampa has the furious come back, and I know
for Matthew Stafford detractors, they're really mad that none of
the errors, all the turnovers were on on him. Yeah,
George and I were doing the live show and I'm
just saying, there's no way you can pin this, no
way that you can pin this on Matthew Stafford. Everybody
(12:59):
on the Rams is messing except Matthew Stafford, and that's
how it played out when he ends up making the
play at the end. But I mean, just amazing right now,
s Arians in the post, you know, saying, hey, we
had the right call, just not the execution. Maybe maybe not.
Somehow you keep losing Cooper Cup, which is always bad
for business, But think about that game suddenly going to overtime.
Would you have trusted the Rams to win the game
(13:20):
in overtime? Um? So it's one of those kinds of situation,
same thing I mean, and obviously shock and awe that
they were able to move into position to kick that
winning field goal in the final half minute, which is
just amazing. Theater which which the entire weekend was again
not to detigrate the world of the Bengals and Titans.
(13:43):
But uh, no rule changes are coming out of that,
except for maybe you know, you have to look a
little better at your draft board in your NFL war
rooms to decide whether it warrants grabbing a guy in
the fifth round. Maybe maybe there's a change. And we
we remember and we pushed aside the memory of Aguayo. Ah, yes,
(14:04):
Roberto Aguayou. I heard of Bill Grammatica reference oh recently
and uh and that's way back in the way back.
But I think it was a celebration. Kicker made a
celebration and celebration and then get hurt. Listen, I'll say that.
You know, like sometimes sometimes kickers they may have a
rough go of it at first. You know, look at
Daniel Carlson with the with the Raiders and time he
(14:27):
had with the Vikings. Uh the uh, you know, sometimes
you gotta stick with these kickers and they can they
can pay off. Well, you mean like the Bears should
have actually paid Robbie Gold Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know
what's funny, my brother sent me the the greatest meme
after that, the game winner went through the forty Niners
Packers was a shot a slow motion of Ryan Pace
(14:50):
leaving soldier field. It's like he had one hit left,
planted this seed by cutting gold years ago to rip
Aaron oh Man. Good stuff. All right, there it is.
There is your recap from the Vision Old Playoff Weekend.
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in our executive producer, Ryan Burr Singer as we look
ahead to the two fantasy season again. Ryan, Mike and
I have been doing a draft with no lineups. The
PPR League scoring format is how we've addressed this, and
(17:48):
we just want to get your prepped and what we
think and how we think the orders should go and
drafting the best available players that we think will be
available in the two draft. So as we bring Ryan
Burshinger in and you can get on Twitter at Ryan
Burr Singer, Mike carm and get him on Twitter at
swollend Home and find me on Twitter at Dan Buyer
on Fox. How did the second round go? Bursch, I
(18:08):
know that you've got a copy in front of you.
I do as well, But how did we How did
we run down the second round that started? I know
I was a little frustrated because I wasn't sure of
my Tyreek Hill on the back end of the first
round was gonna allow me to get the guy that
I wanted at the start of the second. It did happen,
But how did our second round go? So yes, starting
at thirteen was Joe Mixon fourteen, Stefon Diggs fifteen, Jamaar
(18:30):
Chase sixteen, Nick Chubb seventeen, Deebo Samuel eighteen, Javonte Williams nineteen,
Travis Kelsey twenty, Cam Acres one, DK Metcalf two, Keenan Allen,
twenty three Darren Waller, and twenty four Antonio Gibson. Okay,
that's how the second round played out. So, Mike, as
we are just on the verge of starting our third round,
(18:52):
there are some interesting names out there. Anything stand out
to you as we enter the third round and what
we could see in our next wealth picks that we
make in our fantasy draft. Well, one thing, it shows
the three of us have decided we're not jumping on
quarterbacks immediately right, which has been a trend the last
couple of years. Go up and get your guy, even
(19:14):
though you know that muddled mess behind and what five
through twelve don't have much variance to them at all,
So that that's certainly is the case. We've got two
tight ends that have already come off the board. I
would suspect they'll be joined again. Top heavy kind of
list there, but you know patients. When it comes to
(19:35):
guys in the in the unknowns, right, Christian McCaffrey goes ten.
I see in a number of industry things UH popping
off for the next year. He's still a top four
or five guy on most sites. And all right, not
only are you worried about his injuries, but who the
hell slinging the rock there? And what does it look like?
And if they're bringing in dudes that ran the Giants offense,
(19:58):
Like if McAdoo shows up there, really suddenly that's going
to be the thing that catapults them to greatness. Come on,
it's either going to UH works in a spectacular fashion
or fail miserably. And I I just I am on
the side of not trusting Christian McCaffrey. Plus, I just
think there are a lot of other names that are
more reliable that you can get ahead of him. You
(20:19):
mentioned injuries. That's what I think this third round is
going to be about, because now you're starting to see
guys some that may have missed a good part of
the season or all of the season that could be
in the conversation and in coming back from injuries. There
are certain names who had cam Akers is Ryan mentioned
did go in the second round twenty overall in our draft,
but there are other names that pop up. I also
(20:40):
think that there are injury prone players that are in
this third round. So let's, uh, let's see what we
have to offer Ryan Burr, string or you are on
the clock, it goes Ryan, Mike and then myself and
then we just continue in that order, all right, Versus
you look at these players that are ahead of you,
with twenty four players in the rear view mirror, what
are you focusing on and pick number twenty five? Well,
(21:02):
as Mike mentioned, tight end is is super top heavy,
and I think over the last few years especially, I've
started to more subscribe to the strategy of getting a
very strong tight end to not have a hole in
your roster. It's very easily, very easy to get stuck
with a hole at tight end. And you look at
last year at tight end, like Dawson Knox was tight
(21:23):
end four on the season, and in terms of total points, sure, yeah,
he he ended up there, but he had weeks where
he was downright terrible, including a zero in week seventeen.
So I want to get a steady tight end and
you have a guy available right now who was tight
end one on the season. So I'm going to take
Mark Andrews here at so Burst does not subscribe to
(21:44):
the I'll just take Evan Ingram late in the in
the draft and watch him surprise everyone, like everybody has
wished for the last five years. So Mark Andrews tight
end number three now off the board. After Waller and
Kelsey went Mike Harmon Europe at number twenty six back
in Well, I mean, look, if we're gonna do, why
don't we do a veritable tight end run then and
(22:08):
give me my my Iowa boy. All right, no fans, No,
I'm just kidding. No fan probably is a top six guy.
And when it's all said, would yeah again Marv Cook,
who always made it into those Iowa tight end graphics.
We're at like seven guys just like that. That is
(22:28):
that is good Iowa's tight end knowledge. That's what they
would do. They didn't even get a Hawkinson. They they
had this great run with Fans Hawkinson, Kittle and then
Dallas Clark obviously, but to like fill out the graphic,
they would throw Marv Cook in there. From the eatings
and nineties and the New England Patriots back when we
didn't mind the Patriots. George Kittle goes number twenty six
(22:52):
overall in tight end number four. Kittle is off the board.
That brings me up to the plate. And I had
actually been debating this and I'm not going to I
I I think that there will be a bounce back
and know that there could be a change. I don't
know if there will be a change though after what
we saw a little over a week and a half ago.
The first Dallas Cowboy off the board will be Ceedee Lamb.
(23:15):
I am going to take Ceedee Lamb at number twenty seven.
I know that there there are other Dallas Cowboys that
could be available, including Ezekiel Elliott, but I trust Ceedee
Lamb more of the breakout uh year that we expected
his sophomore season to maybe come next season. Give me
Ceedee Lamb at number twenty seven. Like that not to
be labor the Dallas point. We have plenty of off
season to bandy this about. But how different does that
(23:39):
squad look? Right? Are they able to get someone to
take Elliott's contract? Is Amari Cooper back because obviously Jerry
Jones hates him and he was bad at him because
he was unvaccinated, not available to him first stretch, and
then the disappearing act at times, and then we don't
you finished terribly, So someone's got to go, especially after
(24:02):
you've said all the right things and brought them in
and paid them a lot of money. And we know
that Jerry Jones doesn't want to be hanging with Mr Cooper.
We'll see if that happens in two. Alright, Ryan bur
shing Er, you are back up at pick number twenty
eight overall. Yeah, this is an interesting spot because I'm
looking at guys who have kind of battled with injuries.
As you mentioned, Dan, We're gonna be seeing a lot
(24:23):
of that in this round. Here. I'm going to go
ahead and take A. J. Brown, and I'm going to
bet on his ceiling, bet on his talent. We saw
what he could do in uh In in weeks sixteen
closing out the season there had a huge game when
he came back after being injured for a few weeks.
The talent is there. He's just got to stay healthy.
So I'm gonna take J. J. Brown here. Let's also
be real, if A. J. Brown doesn't have the game
(24:43):
that he has on Saturday, maybe we are moving him
down a little bit in the rankings to see where
the Titan wide receiver goes. But in looking at the
other names out there, I think that yeah, A. J.
Brown Is is definitely worthy of a pick at this point.
But I do think that this past he cant helped
his help this draft spot top of mind, no question
(25:04):
about it. I had him as a w R five
for this past year, so clearly I liked him. I
want to like him even three awesome games and then
the rest and well not four with the loss to
to cincident in the playoffs, but that's what you got
from them. But even looking at Ryan Tannehill, there were
a number of balls that he threw, including the touchdown
to Brown where you're like, see this guy can sling it,
(25:26):
and then he does things like after yeah, now we're
going back to the playoffs, how do you have Dante
form and give you a forty five yard run? Uh
then throw that interception? And how does form and only
have four carries in the game? Dan Fire, I was
surprised about that. I I thought it would be more
of a split workload than it was actually and uh yeah,
(25:46):
they just gave Henry Henry every not that it was
the difference. But to your point of yeah, if you're
gonna do that and that's what got you to the playoffs,
why would you change. Yeah, he was able to carry
it for half a year to the number one seat.
As FARTI you're off, But what do I know. I'm
just a dope on the radio. All right, let's get
back into it. So Edwards, Kittle, Lamb Brown gone thus far? Uh,
(26:10):
this seems like a spot to try to figure out
and read the tea leaves of a guy with a
big workload left at the running back position. Uh. And
while I will be called a homer, I'll take David Montgomery. Hey,
Matt Naggie's not there to screw it up anymore. It's
true that I I was curious because I think that
(26:30):
there is another name out there on if you were
to go this name or go David Montgomery. I will
be honest. When I took Antonio Gibson number twenty four,
I had considered David Montgomery in that spot, which then
just completely doesn't explain why it took Ceedee lamb at
But I ended up taking CD and and and pick
number thirty. Since you took Montgomery, who was going to
(26:53):
be my pick if you didn't take him. I know
this is a bit of a reach, but I still
think that you talk about workload, it will be there
if he is healthy, and I will take se Kwon
Barkley at number thirty with having no idea what's going
to happen with the Giants coaching situation. He is still
se Kwon Barkley, and if you can straighten some stuff
(27:14):
up in the off season when we did our pot
a few weeks ago, when we're talking about coaching changes,
I think with his contract, you're gonna want to figure
out in the h the future of se Kwon Barkley
in New York. This is the time to find out.
This is what you want to find out what you've got,
so put him to work. So I'm gonna take se
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back RB in our rankings as we moved to pick
number thirty one with Ryan bur Singer. I like that,
(29:44):
say quan pick. Actually, I was about to do that,
so I I endorse it, and I think that the
the other running backs available right now. It's weird because
you have steady guys and strong offenses. You have guys
who were first round picks this last season and might
be having too much of a workload at the moment
um or not enough of a workload at the moment.
I'm going to take Deonte Johnson here because I think
(30:07):
his his his workload is very high. He gets targeted
like crazy, and you know, they've they've got to have
a better quarterback. Maybe than than than than no arm
he I already had my analysis written for this one
personally following me, someone will be able to get the
ball five yards beyond the line of scrimmage, it opens up.
(30:28):
I I appreciate Ryan berging or having a pick righty
after I took Barkley, because if it was like a
guy in our league, he would jump right back into
his magazine because he only had Plan A, like there
was no Plan B. And once Plan A went off
the board, he started from scratch and started back at
zero and started over again. So I appreciate you having
(30:49):
a backup plan with that. Always have a backup alright.
Deonte Johnson is a wide receiver. Twelve Mike Harmon up
with five more picks in our third round of our
twenty two Fantasy Draft. Well, I'll assume he's back and healthy, um,
and I'm going back through the board making sure he
hasn't been picked. But give me DeAndre Hopkins. Yes, he
(31:12):
is available. One of the names as well. When we
talked about injury wise on where you want to take
a guy that he was, he was he was foremost
on my mind. Him and another guy that hasn't been
picked yet were actually the two names that really popped out,
and see Kwon Barkley. When we talked about guys who
were injured or deal with injuries, DeAndre Hopkins was one
of those guys. I have one more guy, and maybe
(31:35):
we're kindred spirits and thinking the same way. Uh One
thing I would want to know, I mean, Kingsbury, show
me your plan for playing in the second half of
a season. I'll sit back and wait, so will I
so will uh so will Steve Kim? But that's a
whole other thing, all right for a job. All Right,
(31:59):
there are a lot of good names on the board,
and this is a decision that I actually have to
face in one of my leagues when it comes to
two keepers, I have to do it either or, and
it usually isn't wise. And Ryan bur Singer started out
as we started this draft kind of talking about this.
I'm gonna take the first quarterback off the board, and
(32:21):
it maybe recency bias, but Josh Allen goes off the
board at number thirty three. When you just saw what
he did in the these two playoff games that they had,
it makes you think like, oh, my goodness, could you
imagine having that for sixteen or seventeen weeks of a
fantasy season. So Josh Allen is going to be QB
one off of our board, number thirty three overall. So
(32:45):
it took thirty two picks until a thirty three picks
until the quarterback was finally taken. All right, final three
picks of our third round of our fantasy draft. Make
these count, guys, because this is what's gonna You're gonna
be kicking yourself for over the next until we get
to round number four. Make these picks count. Ryan Burr
Shinger eure up at number thirty four. Um, I'm gonna
(33:07):
go ahead and take Mike Evans here because if Chris
Godwin doesn't come back, he's then the clear number one
in this offense. And you know, Tom Brady, I don't know,
he may retire, he probably won't. I still think that
they're going to find a way to get Mike Evans
the ball a ton in that offense. So I'll take
Evans here. I have no idea how Tom Brady would
walk away from this after the season he just had.
(33:29):
I didn't like, yeah, you know, I was gonna say
that story like it's just it's it's so NFL insiers
do this because they wanted for that Sunday That wasn't
like a story, Mike that popped up at ten o'clock
Saturday night and then was need needed to be broken
at that point or early the next morning. You know,
this has been sitting there, and it just tells me
that it's not really a story. Like if you're waiting
(33:51):
to unveil that, you know, six hours before kickoff of
you know, the Tampa game, to make it a conversation
for your pregame show, that to me just then tells
me maybe it's not as much of a story as
we thought it was. No, I just kind of shrugged.
It's like I looked at doing the Morning show with
Bucky Brooks. We've gone through a ton of stuff, right, obviously,
(34:12):
a lot of breakdown, a lot of Rogers podcast up,
I Heart Radio app and anywhere you get your podcast,
go grab it, give it five stars, will love you forever,
and evangelized your friends. Uh Like, look, I took Roger's apart,
uh nine thousand different ways. But at some point I
looked at Bucky and a break I go, do you
care to talk about this the left? Because it's a
(34:32):
big deal now so I think we made a similar
joke on air and just went in to analyze the game.
It's like, really, let's start talking about the history of
Kyle trassk everybody. It's like, no, alright, Mike Evans though,
um yeah, wing it up and Brady still had the
arm strength to get it to him downfield as Jalen
(34:55):
Jalen Ramsey kind of disappeared on that converage, now, didn't he?
But we move forward. Now there's a number of guys
that I like in the next spot, but they don't
really just spread apart. I wanted Josh Allen, but you
stole them from me. Uh and uh, you may steal
a guy from me because I have someone targeted at
thirty six. So I'm gonna take a wide receiver that
(35:17):
we haven't seen in a very very long time, Okay,
and I am going to roll the dice that this works.
Now there's another guy I like, and I'm curious to
see what the quarterback position is and what the new
regime is. Uh, lots of money to spend, you know,
all that fun stuff. But I'm going to go out
and roll the dice that Calvin Ridley finds himself. Oh wow,
(35:43):
Calvin Ridley off the board. I've heard some New England
connections with Calvin Ridley. We don't think he's gonna be
back in Atlanta. The curiosity, you know, there's a bunch
of guys that are kind of the same, and I'm
looking at all, right, where's my upside, where's my potential
push at this point in the draft, And so they're
I'll roll the dice there. Why because it's spicy and
(36:07):
Bursch can put it in there, going what do you
think of this? Ah? This is by the way, I
think that we like with with Ridley. There is a
line at the wide receiver position, and I think that
we have now crossed it there there there's there's a
(36:27):
name that I think, you know what, I'm not going
to pick him here. I will tell you who it
is in the fourth round. But I think that we've
crossed that line of being now we're into the next
group of wide receivers. Like I think that that is
that is where we are in this draft. So I
am avoiding the wide receiver position. If he stays healthy,
(36:47):
I would be very very happy to have Elijah Mitchell
at number thirty six. So I'm gonna go the forty
Niners running back, and I think he keeps the job
no matter what they've they've done. Considering the way that
he runs, an how he has run this season, and
the how much San Francisco likes to run. I would
take Elijah Mitchell thirty six. There there there was a
wide receiver that I really liked, and I'll write it
(37:09):
down and then we'll talk about it in the fourth round.
But I think when once Ridley went off the board,
now you just kind of started not to see just guys,
not jags as we like to say, but they're just
there wasn't as much separation as I thought with the
with the other guys that were taken. Yeah, I mean,
I like the Mitchell pick wide receiver position. Right, They're
all kind of the same, and it's trying to figure
(37:31):
out where where's the upside ye again one guy on
my brain where I'm like, all right, we saw some
good but there's potential for this to be unlocked if
everything breaks right. But it's a question of well does
it But well, I'm sure tackle that in the next
twelve picks. Uh, no question. But Elijah Mitchell, I mean, look,
(37:51):
the forty Niners are still playing and a lot of
it is his emergence right when most went down and
it was gonna be a committee situation, and it is
to a degree because right Deebo Samuels RB wanted times.
I mean, but you look at mitchell tough yardage and
trust well that that staff has in him. I think
there's also there could also be the counter answer of
(38:13):
Trey Lance ends up getting the job. How much does
Elijah Mitchell's maybe go line work be effected or just
even running the football. I don't think it would change
that much, but something to look at in the off season.
So for the Elijah Mitchell detractors, that would be something
that they would point to. All Right, that wraps up
our third round. So we are halfway through, means we
have three more podcasts left in the season. They will
(38:36):
come out every Tuesday's. We're now doing them weekly. Big
thanks to Ryan bur Singer UH and my Carmen. I'm
Dan Buyer. This has been a lot of fun. Any
final thoughts burst from what you saw in the draft.
I'll let you go get him on Twitter at Ryan
bur Singer at these twelve picks. Any final thoughts, Yeah,
As Harmon mentioned, I think Elijah Mitchell. I think that's
a great spot for him, and I could see that
stock rising even higher as we get closer to the
(38:57):
season where there's more certainty in terms of his role.
As you were talking about with receivers, Dan, there's a
couple of receivers that I wasn't crazy about taking in
the third round, but I would absolutely love as fourth
round picks. And Uh, I think it's one more thing.
It's interesting the kind of elephants in the room at
the moment. You've got Ezekiel Elliott and Aaron Jones, guys
(39:18):
who were taking in the first round of this last season,
and you watch their their stock continue to kind of fall.
As you saw, there are other counterparts and been running back.
Uh excel in the way the guys in the tandem
outplayed them. Yeah, it's so it's it's so interesting where
the name feels like you should be taking him around
(39:38):
this time, but you look at it logically and you're like, no,
I just it doesn't feel right. So be interesting to
see where those guys end up. Harmon, I'll let you
have the last word. And all of this is we
are thirty six picks in well him Brian mentioned Jones
like Elliott I wouldn't touch I don't think right whether
he's in Dallas, Pollard going to have a big say.
But because of his salary, I guess Zeke would still
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getting his his turn now if he moved someplace else. Yeah,
maybe maybe there's more value with Jones so long as
he's in Green Bay with A J. Dillon who had
that broken rib. I mean, obviously that's part of the
forty Niners Packers game that nobody's talking about. Hey, A J.
Dillon wasn't there, although they weren't using it much anyway
because went to the two man game. Hey, there was
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one guy talking about it, and it was me because
I was totally critical of myself yesterday on Sunday Show
in saying I think A. J. Dillon's injury played a
big part of this while everybody was talking about Rodgers
and the special teams. By the way, that will not
make the the hot take theater that that is usually
out there, Mike, that you love so much that you
have phrased. But I do think I agree with you.
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I think that A. J. Dillon's injury did play a
role in that game. Just maybe he would have trusted
him because he sure as hell didn't trust anybody else.
It was Aaron Jones or I'm gonna fire it through
three guys to get to Davante Adams, no matter whether
Lazard was running free or not. Uh, and beat it
from there. Wide receivers all look the same. Uh. The
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quarterback position you got Alan off the board. And now
the curiosity whether we have I mean, I guess it
would be a two man run, whether Bursh and I
fight over who's next. But certainly, uh, you know, it's
a position that is is fluid because you do have
those top performers. How one of them still alive in
the playoffs and his kicker bailed about over and Joe
(41:26):
Chill over there, but you know, went wondering how quickly
the rest of these guys come off the board. And
it's all that sense and sensibility and changing face of
the game between reality and fantasy. And that's why I
love doing these months in advance, because we know the
chess pieces are going to be moving all over the board. Yeah,
this is I think these next three rounds will be
very very interesting, especially to see where a guy like
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zek Elliott could fall. All right, So for Ryan Bursting
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