March 31, 2022 • 36 mins
Jason and Mike explain why this go around should be better for Todd Bowles, revisit a key part of what Rich Ohrnberger said, and why it’s time for Julius Randle to move on from the Knicks.
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the drought is over for the first time in two thousand,
eight hundred and twenty nine days. The United States men's
national team we'll be participating in the World Cup as
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they succeeded in not losing six nothing to Costa Rica. Yeah,
that's it. Succeed and proceed doesn't have to be pretty.
You don't have to. I mean, as long as you
walk out of there and didn't give up six goals.
I don't that Costa Rica had six shots on goal
no for the night. Look, the United States clearly uh
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and put everything into their game against Panama, which is fine.
You expect a bit of a of a down swing
or a bounce in this game and that's what you
got and okay to nothing. And I know people are
gonna say, oh, they had to it doesn't matter. We're
in the World Cup. We don't have to worry about
qualifying now for another eight years because the next Cup
we're hosting, So we're in no matter what. Yeah, it
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is the lead with some of the thought pieces that
started to run and for us, I mean we're doing
sports talk radio. Just saying hey, they're in is great. Uh,
you know, but you gotta go a little deeper and
just say, wow, man, you still want to put off
an effort, right, it's still a chance to to put
some things on tape. Puts it. Nah, doesn't matter, we
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made the tournament, la blah blah blah blah. We're in.
We're in. Yeah, that's how it had that. Now, if
this game was like if this game was like three
nothing at halftime and then it got you know what
I really want, So I shouldn't say that, shouldn't put
it out in the universe, but you know what I
really wanted was like around the eightieth minute for it
to be five nothing. Yeah, but like what what that
would have been for the last ten minutes of the
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game being five nothing, knowing the next goal means you're
out of the World Cup, And just what what would
that have been like being five nothing at that point?
I'll tell you what the psychology of that, the fandom.
You want to talk about getting ratings, right, I mean
we talked a lot about the oscars and the uptick
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to be kind right to call it that after the
slap herd scene around the world. I mean, think about
this final ten minutes. United States in control that you know,
we control our own destiny. One of the worst phrases,
uh in the English language, But here we are. They
literally just did not need to lose by six. If
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that was on on the cusp of happening, I mean,
are you you're talking about all right, how do I
find the channel that it's being televised on? Because that
would have gone viral very quickly. Why because everybody would
have been chiming in with a blue check mark. Every
Hollywood celebrity, every athlete, ex athlete that has even one
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percent stake in it would have been fired up about it. Uh.
If we'd gotten to that point, are we really gonna
choke this away? And all the people that want to say,
see the women know women's team doesn't have to deal
with this. They just they just went. But here's the thing, now,
this is why. Here's why I give a left turn
for before you get back into right. This is why
tonight's outcome was the best thing for fans of the
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US men's national team. Right. Here's why why it was
the best for fans in the United States because they win,
they get in the World Cup. So we can celebrate.
Yet we can still complain about coach Greg Burr Alter
is we still doesn't matter. We got it. It's great,
but we can still complain about how bad. It's like
the head coach of a football team that says, what's
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the best thing you can do? Well? The best thing
is for us to win a game, but for us
to not look good doing it. So I can be
on the guys in practice and they understand we have
to do better the next game. That's that's the dream
of a coach. We win, but we look bad doing it.
They know we have to focus for the next game.
This is the best thing for fans because we're in.
We're so excited. At the same time, boy, Greg Burr Halter,
what the hell is he doing? What if he's thinking
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this is the best because now we can complain about
Burr Halter. This is the best outcome for everybody. This
is a gift we got tonight. It was a gift,
Mike Carman, a gift. I have only one thing to
respond with, USA, USA, That's what we do. We've got
it great, but you know what we want a little
bit more? Right, it's the Montgomery Burns line and you know, Smithers,
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I trade it all for a little bit more. You're
the rigist man, I know, sir. It's home run uh
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I love more in the US men's national team coming
up throughout the show, because, like I said, it's the
best thing we can complain about Burr Alter. It's so great.
But hey, the big bombshell that dropped earlier tonight, Bruce
Arians no longer the head coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
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He is getting kicked upstairs to the front office. Todd
Bowle's defensive coordinator, former Jets head coach will take over.
UH four Arians and last hour we talked. We had
a great, big power hour about how this was Tom
Brady's power play. He used retirement as his leverage because
we knew that he wasn't getting along with Bruce Arians,
and it got so bad to the point that Brady
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retired rather than say I'm coming back, and now he
forced change. Bruce Arians winds up leaving. You're gonna hear
from rich orn Berger coming up in a few minutes.
He joined us last hour and gave us some great
insight into exactly what the UH was at the base
of the feuding between Brady and Arian, something he reported
about a month and a half ago and got a
lot of flak. Four. Now it turns out he's the
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smartest guy in the room. I mean. Arians clapped back
in a very very large way, which which led you
to raise your eyebrow. If if you're reading, you know
the tea leaves and and how people respond to searching
situations like that, right, the more aggressively, they fight back
on it. The more likely is that you know you've
hit on some fundamental truth of the process therein so clearly, Look,
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three of the smartest guys in the room, the two
of us in Rich orin Burger, right, I mean, hey,
when we're right, we gotta say it. We've been right,
we've been hot, and we've been rolling sevens. Man, we're
rolling sevens eleven seven eleven seven. But for a different
angle on this, for a couple of minutes, right, Todd
Bowles is now going to succeed Bruce Arians be the
new head coach in Tampa, and it could have either
been him or Byron Leftwich, but Todd Bowles gets the gig.
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Bruce Arians talked about how this succession plan was kind
of in place, and he wants Todd Bowls to be
in a good job because if something happens next year
and they go like ten and seven and Bruce Arians
decides to retire, then a bunch of people are getting
interviewed for the job and Todd Bowls might not get it,
and he wanted to kind of help take care of
Bowls and put him in a position to succeed here
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in Tampa. Now, let me tell you this, and because
you know me, like I watched Todd Bowls. He was
my coach for three years Super Bowls. I was very excited.
Word on the second year, I was not excited anymore. Um,
he's going to succeed in Tampa. For the main reasons
is that the things that absolutely sunk him in New
York are not gonna be issues in Tampa. Right now. Clearly,
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there's the first time around thing as a head coach.
And alright, he he was okay, the players liked him,
but you know then he lost his grip on the
team for different reasons. But there is a bit of
the hey, second time around, I learned from my mistakes
the first time, right, and and that's and that's for
everybody and every job you do. Hey, all right now,
I know what I'm getting into. Uh. Clearly, the pressure
cooker of New York is a really big deal. Even
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though he played there. It's much different to be the
head coach in Tampa. Not quite the pressure cooker. So
that's gonna help him. But I'll tell you, the three
things that dogged him the most in New York his
entire time there aren't going to be issues in Tampa.
The first thing was that the offense had no identity
and no plan. Right. He had three coordinators in in
three years. It was awful. The front office didn't help
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him out. They drafted Christian Hackenburg. It was just awful.
The offense did not have an identity, and he's not
an offensive coach. So that's something that hey, good luck,
good luck trying to make this work. And when I'm
not an offensive coach and we're going to continue to
change coaches and change quarterbacks, that was a really difficult
spot to put him in. Don't have to worry about
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that in Tampa. The offense takes care of itself. He
might not even be in any offensive meetings. He might say,
this half of the building is for the offense. You
guys are over there. I'll show up on Friday. You
show me what the game plan is. I'll be with
the defense over here. So that's number one. He doesn't
have to worry about the offense needing an identity, needing
to to bring along offensive players, needing to make to
see if they it with the team. You know what fits.
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This is a veteran team. They've brought back the guys
that wanted brought back. They brought in a couple of
new guys. They wanted all these guys know, there're sticking.
It's the same offense, it's the same players. This should
not be uh, something that affects him, because clearly that
was the big thing in New York was the fact
that on offense they couldn't develop any kind of identity.
But now in Tampa don't have to worry about that.
Mike Carmon, that is free and clear for him. Well,
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you've got plenty of guys that will take the reins
right and that's part of the power of play being
executed by Tom Brady, the return of Byron Left, which
which I think is part of the the larger plan. Right,
if you're gonna say this was all scripted, and you
have to decide how much of this you believe, much
like what we were talking about with the the oscars.
Was it a work, was it not? Was it a
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work that went too far? Whatever else? But with this one,
it's the same thing. Right. There's a lot of spin
going on right now as to how this succession plan
came together, but certainly offensively, we've heard the tales of
Brady recruiting. Yeah, I'm coming back. And you saw a
number of the players that were already there in Tampa.
We're we're just kind of waiting around and waiting out
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free agency. You're gonna come back. You're gonna do this
sure behind the scenes. You know, you've got a bit
of the right decisions gotta come because, like we talked
about it with the you know guys in Vegas calling
foul about inside information like no, no, no, the clock
was ticking, the sand was running out of the hourglass. Uh.
For Brady to make a decision before that legal tampering
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period again another phrase in American culture that makes absolutely
no sense. But the before that period began, he had
to make a decision. Why so these guys could go
make their decisions about where they were gonna apply their
wares uh and execute this next year. So the phone
calls start, Gradkowski doesn't is in no hurry to come
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back physically, and you know what he's able to do
on on short notice. Hell, he went from the w
w E, the Fox telecasts center there off the Pico
Lie back onto the field and he's been just fine
at the Russell Gauge effects. So yeah, offensively You've got
nothing to worry about, Todd Bowls. Just here. You need
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to sign off on some form at the end of
each week that you checked the game plan I was
to make the fans and the UH describes happy checked
in like the like the guy like like when you
go into a public restroom and there's or or not
a public rest but when you go into the restaurant
in a restaurant and there's always that has to be
a sign in cheat for the last time the person's
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leaned the bathroom, and I always look and go, man,
no one's cleaning his bathroom since one o'clock. Yes, spend
a couple of hours, Man, yesterday early, what happened here?
You gotta sign up and tell me you were there? Man,
I don't. I'm not going in this one. Uh. The
other two things for him are that he did not
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have the support of the front office. Remember it wasn't
Mike mccagnan who was hired that hired. Todd Bowles was
Bulls was hired. Mccagnan hired right after, and it was
kind of an arranged marriage. And look, mccagun was a
bad gm UH. And so that's a difficult thing when
you know, you don't have the support of the front
office when you're not the guy the GM hires. It's tough.
Do you have to worry about that? Here, Todd Bowls
has all the support in the world from the front
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office because it's the same it's the same owner as
the GM that hired him, and it's his head coaches
now being bumped up to the front office. So he's
got the support of the front office. And the other
thing is discipline issues. Right, he had a lot of
discipline issues with the Jets, and I don't think he
knew how to quite handle them. But this being a
veteran team and Antonio Brown being gone, I don't think
you have to worry about that. I mean clearly now
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that it's not gonna be where a by is gonna
come back to the day. I'm ready to come back. Man,
Bruce has got no, no, no. As long as he's
as long as he's gone, the discipline issues won't be
a thing. But those are the three things that crushed
Todd Bowls with the Jets. No identity on offense, front
office and discipline issues. None of those are gonna be
issues with Tampa. He will be just fine. This year,
and you will see Brady who you never have to
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worry about his motivation. You watch Tampa now running rough
shot over the regular season this year, He's he's out
there motivated, showing how big a player he is and
what he's still capable of. I'll tell you it's it's
really hard to say. Hey, a coach stepping away is
a big thing and a positive thing for the Bucks.
But I honestly feel better about Tampa going into this
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season than I would have if Bruce arians was still
the head coach. I feel much better because I feel
better about Brady and his motivation and being able to
finish what they went through last year and and not
have a lot of controversy that snipping at their heels.
I feel much better about them this year. Yeah. Look,
I felt fine about him last year. I just again,
if if works doesn't get hurt, do we have a
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different result in that game? Right? Is there a different
start instead of Tom Brady trying to do the soft
shoe and get the ball out, et cetera, and obviously
not having Godwin. But it is what it is. Yeah,
you move forward and you bring back a lot of
the principal components you add a Russell gauge and I
know Antonio Brown not being there, A lot of memes
a lot of folks with the uh super imposing Brady's
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head on Antonio Brown's body for that goodbye after he'd
undressed and started getting to the locker room. So that
that's kind of interesting. But we look at the situation here.
Sure the front office, Yeah, Bruce arians goes upstairs. You know,
you've got a guy who who's well acquainted with the
players on every aspect. I think that's a big win
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right there. Jason, is is that that element of it
normally there's that separation. Well, yeah, it is to a degree,
but you know, he helped put that squad together and
he knows all these guys a bit deeper. And the
other is, uh, you forgot point number four. They're not
the Jets. Oh you know. Okay, there is that too.
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There is that there, There is that there not the Jets.
There is that, okay there, but the other things are
bigger deal. Let mean, you could say that about any team. No, no, no,
that that's certainly except for the Lions. You if you're
the Lions, you can't see, well, we're not the Jets. No,
due to the Lions. That's about them. That's about the
only team you can Now. I think it's exciting times
and we'll find out what's real, what's imagined. Uh. In
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terms of all the spin that's going around our buddy
Jay Glazer, we know he's uh, you know, buddies with
Bruce Arians Arians. Here Here was his tweet earlier quote.
Arians told me, once he knew Brady was coming back,
he started thinking he could step away and leave Bowls
in a great position. Said there was a rule they
needed clarified, which they got this weekend owners meeting, which
led to the timing and Bowls finding out on Monday.
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Slash match limitations they do apply. Well, you know, before
we get back into Tom Brady and Bruce Arians and
the big news today. Um, it comes out today regarding
the Will Smith Chris Rock slap that Will Smith was
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asked to leave the Academy Awards after slapping Chris Rock
and he refused, and supposedly the members were upset, and
now they have a fifteen day time span at which
they're going to discuss everything from Will Smith giving back
the Oscar, to being banned from the Academy, to be
banned from future Oscar telecast. All of these things are
on the table, right. Oh, we asked him and he
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didn't leave. Um, this goes to what we talked about
on Monday, is that what we've lost in this country
is sense of class and and how to act in
certain situations. Right, there's no there's no more there's no
more self uh self awareness checks that people have. They
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just decide I can do stuff because what are you
gonna do to me? There's no ramifications. I'm not gonna
have to face responsibility for it. Will Smith decided it
was okay to go up and hit Chris Rock because
what are they gonna do to me? What are they
really gonna do to me there? Why are they're gonna
put me in jail? And no, they're not gonna do
anything to me. And what happened He went up and
slap Chris Rock and he sat down and they asked
him to leave, and he said, no, what are you
gonna do to me? You're gonna bring security over and
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escort me out. Yeah, they probably should have, but again,
this is this is the whole thing about why when
when events shocking events like this happened, it's not shocking
anymore because no one no one acts in in in
public situations. If to say, Okay, I need to have
some kind of modicum of of sanity here, and as
upset as I might be, I can't go do this. No,
that's all the window right now. I'm gonna do whatever
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the hell I want to, because really, what ramifications do
I have to worry about? How responsible are you gonna
make me for this? And right now they're not. They
haven't done anything. And the thing is, had they done that,
had they moved will Smith out of the oscars and
and had they they said, then it might have been
over by now. But the fact they didn't do it,
and now they're getting so much flak for not doing it.
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How do you let him stay on the telecast? Look,
we talked about that right after. That was the most
shocking thing to me. Now they're gonna have to go
even further the other way. They're gonna have to ban him,
they're gonna take his oscar away. All of these things
are gonna happen because it's so embarrassing. They couldn't take
care of it the first time, because again, there's no accountability.
We don't hold people accountable. Public figures aren't held accountable
anymore for anything they might do. Yeah, I mean, look, obviously,
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whenever you gotta he high Q rating and you move
the needle, and certainly for the broadcast itself, we talked
about you know how viewers started tuning in, what's gonna happen?
How are they going to respond? You could have gone
to a much longer commercial break right at another thirty
seconds and instead of him being consoled again, we we
don't need to relitigate the whole thing. You can go
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find the podcast wherever you pull down audio. Give it
five stars, will love you forever, or if you hate me,
you can still give it five stars. Because you love
the argument at Swollen Dome. Um, I hate you run Burgundy. No,
but I mean you had him getting consoled by all
these guys. You know what, a security guy could have
walked up and said, you know what, you need to
leave and really actually made it happen. The fact that
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no security was ever seen, uh in any of this
means you had a bunch of inactivity because behind the scenes,
at least one of those guys. And here's you know,
some wanton speculations like you know this, this is really ugly,
but it's good for business. Watch what happens. They're gonna
talk now. We haven't talked to nearly as much about
all of the great Oscar winners and you know, thrusting
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you know, attention back into those movies. So maybe you
go and find them. Uh all the air in the room.
And now Chris rock Is is on tour. His tour
started immediately thereafter. Uh, so you have that going on.
But it's the fact that the Academy did nothing in
the entirety of the show because it was a long
way to go before that show ended. Right, Yeah, plenty
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of opportunity, plenty of commercial breaks, plenty of pay you
know what. We love you, Denzel, we love you, Bradley Cooper,
We we love all you guys want to console him,
he's got to go because you know, we we've got
no but this is you know, I was talking with
the girls about this a little earlier, my daughters as
we were eating dinner, and it's like, well, you kind
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of have a Hollywood assemblage of folks there that talk
about the importance of words and and you know, talking
through issues, and then you had the slap right and
talking about how words matter. And then there's clips of
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him using that on a guy that was part of
our Cineo Hall's crew many years ago. You have Jada
Pinkett Smith with quotes of I don't care it's my hair.
I embrace it. You know, this is my head? Like, Okay,
what's real? What's imagined at this point? And how much
is the other stuff that has been bandied about and
been the butt of jokes and conversations forever? So to say,
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now you're going to start activity, what You're gonna take
the oscar from him? Look at all the other guys
you've given oscars to that you haven't taken away. You
might have banded them from your ceremonies. But you did
you take that stuff away. It's like removing victories for
college basketball. No, I watched it, it happened. They won't.
You can't take it away. You cannot like it. You
can cast the gator, you can wag your finger, you
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could do whatever you need to and tell him he
can never sit in the front row and he won't
get to to read the nominees on the winner for
Best Actress next year. But beyond that, like it's all
emptiness at this point, like there's you had your chance
to make your statement, you blew it, putting it out
later we have horror violence whatever, No, you didn't. You
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let him sit back down, You let him scream profanity,
set a dude, and you did nothing. So yeah, they
can all beat it Twitter, And how about a Fresco
Mike hat swollen down the Jason Smiths with Mike car
buton So again, if Will Smith gets kicked out of
the Academy by the end of the show, we'll have
that breaking news, but it's probably gonna be another few days.
They'll get jiggy with it. Meanwhile, earlier tonight, uh, we
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talked to rich Ordenberger former teammate of Tom Brady's does
the morning show uh in San Diego, our teammate here
at Fox Sports Radio, NFL Insider, And if you remember
Richard and Burger, he was the one who had the
report a couple of months ago that the relationship between
Tom Brady and Bruce Arians had soured. And you got
a lot of flak four it and Bruce Arians clap
back at it. Everything is fine, Everything is fine. Well,
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guess who's got the last laugh there after today and
the big news that Bruce Arians is moving upstairs with
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and will no longer be the
head coach. What else is there to think? We told
you when Tom Brady's retirement happened, something smells fish sabbatical.
This is not Yeah, it's a forty day. He retired
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for lent, retired for four. He gave up football. Something
was fishy, and we knew it was an endgame that
Brady had going on. And clearly now we see it.
He used his retirement as leverage because he wasn't getting
along with Bruce Arians. He wanted to get out of
Tampa and this is why he retired. Well, listen, I
don't have to play at all. Aaron Rodgers threatened retire
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airman Tom Brady actually just did it because that that's all,
you know. I always have more respect for someone who
just does something his leverage than threatens to do it
his leverage. Right Brady just said, yeah, I'm retiring. Whoaa,
and but right away wouldn't close the door on it.
So what happened? He had Tampa Bay scattering Tom, what
do we need to do? What needs to happen, and
lo and behold the day Tom Brady decided to return
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to the NFL. Supposedly, that was when the decision was
made that Bruce Arians would move up to the front
office of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and no longer be
the head coach. So now we know Brady retired for
a strategical reason. He wanted to try to either get
out of Tampa or get Exactly what happened to occur.
Bruce Arians no longer the head coach because they had
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a rift with each other and Brady couldn't work with
him anymore. And that's exactly what happened. So for all
of this, Ah, Brady's done. No, No, we told you
from the beginning that Brady's retirement was about something else.
And here's Rich orn Berger from earlier in the show
as he was outlining what the issues Brady had, not
just with Bruce Arians but with other coaches on the
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Tampa Bay Buccaneers coaching staff. Take a listen. Was this
over control of the offense? Was it more about the
play calling? Was it the culture itself? Like? What what
was the what were the biggest things that that that
caused this? Uh, this rift? Well, from what I heard
and what I ascertained, the rift was caused between him
and Bruce over the fact that Brady's a complete workaholic.
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I mean that guy will put everybody to sleep. He
will rest never to make sure that they're pursuing greatness
and perfection if he can help it. And Bruce, as
we know, has really trimmed his schedule down. That was
part of his contract when he re upped with the
Boxes that he was going to take a much different
approach to head coaching than virtually any of the other
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thirty one head coaches in this week. You know, it's
a it's it's a job where most of the times
you're not burning the midnight oil, you're burning burning the
next morning oil and then some you know, and that's
the way Tom Brady operated for two decades in New
England with one of those coaches, and I think a
lot of that rubbed off on Tom, that a lot
of that was in Tom to begin with. So I
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think when you have a situation where you have a
coach who obviously is very comfortable with the media and
very comfortable accepting phrase and very comfortable criticizing a star
quarterback who's doing a lot and I mean a lot
of the heavy lifting, I think there was some some
there was some animosity growing up there. That's my own speculation,
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but but I think that's that's that's as accurate as
I could portray it um in terms of what I
heard about, you know, issues with other members of the
coaching staff. I mean, there were battles over the run
games between him and Byron Left, which you know, they
disagreed on a lot of the play selection during the
course of the game. Brady changed a lot of the
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calls that were coming in from the sideline at the
line of scrimmage in game, to the point where as
far as the game that Byron was calling from the
sideline and Brady was running on the field, it was
completely different. He was running his own playbook on the field.
So so that that just takes you a little bit
deeper into some of the issues that we're going on.
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Amid a really successful season, regardless of how many injuries
they have, they still found a way into the postseason
and gave the Rams all they could handle almost came
back in one. All right, So let's deal with the
first part of this for a couple of minutes. That uh,
Brady was a workaholic. Bruce Arians trimmed his schedule back,
and Brady didn't like the fact that he was being
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criticized as much in public by Bruce Arians. I get that, right,
I get because I I get the philosophy of Hey,
if you want to be a big time part of
this and you want to you want to throw, you
gotta be here with me. You gotta be here and
if your schedule doesn't allow you to do I get it.
I I completely get that. But don't start calling it,
calling me out in public because of something you think
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I'm not doing right when I'm the one here working
as hard as I can. I completely understand that. And
and that's where Bruce Arians probably needed to have a
better thought of boy knowing this, how is this gonna
play out? How is how is me questioning Tom Brady
in public going to really play out? I mean, this
is who I've been my whole career, right, and I
get that from Bruce Arians. But now you have the
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best quarterback any of us have seen. You really think
you need to motivate Tom Brady that Brady's get Brady?
You really think you need to find the way? Okay,
how do I push his buttons to get the best
effort out of him? Brady is always gonna give you
the best effort. Coaches wish they had fifty Tom Brady's
on their team as far as the desire level to
be better. If they had that, those teams wi win
the Super Bowl and go undefeated. You don't need to
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be as talented as Brady, but the desire he has
to work and because this is what he does, and
for Bruce Arians and and for that to be something
at the at the heart of it. Yeah, I completely
get Tom Brady being upset about that. Yeah, I think
there's just that we didn't have time, right Obviously, you
get a running clock and and we were near the
end of our time with Rich It's like, how how
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much does a coach really need to be there? Like
the the perception of all right, you need to be
around the clock, man, you need to sleep on the
floor on a cot on a blow up mattress that
you bought a Dick Sporting Goods at the start of
training camp and you're getting many weary miles out of it.
Whatever else Like that part of it. I've always just wandered, like,
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can't we do things more efficiently? Haven't we have we
advanced to where we maybe can do these communications a
little differently, But whatever perception reality, And certainly Brady had
a coach who, while he might criticize the overall effort
of a squad forever in New England, never would just
point directly at Brady and say that gay. So you know,
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arians and learning to deal with that, I'm sure that's different,
especially when you're in your twenty of your career and
now you start you know, we're we're counting hours like
it's I don't know that that part seems and look,
and not to say anybody's above being that one just
step part of it just seems kind of laughable to
a degree. So I because Bruce Arians can say, you
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know what, I got my part done. If you want
to keep going neck through, that's fine. We we did it,
and you know, check the box and move on. Uh.
You know, just because you were there a couple extra
hours doesn't mean you would have changed anything of how
you executed a play in game. Yeah, but but you
know what I mean in Mountain public. You know, as
as as much as we know Belichick and Brady hated
each other, did Brady ever say anything once in public
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about Belichick that made it seem like we're not on
the same page. He didn't, So I get why he's
made Suddenly Bruce Arians going, yeah, I don't know about
those throws. I don't know what that was all about.
I can see where that pisses him off a little bits.
I understand it to a degree. But in the end,
you're all you're all adults. Figure it out, right, And
Brady wanted to figure it out with Okay, stop calling
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me out in public, and Bruce Arians wouldn't do it,
and and then that up fun. That upset but that's
part of the fun for Arians. That's fun for you
and me, and it's fun for Bruce arians not and
for Tom Brady, not fun for the for the long term. Man,
He's not Kurt Hanning, He's not Mr. Perfect. I think
it's easy to not call out Tom Brady in public
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making a couple of bad throws. I'm pretty sure he's
earned that right. That's a big thing. Look, you gotta
be who you are. I understand that. But you know what,
when you're a coach, you don't get to do that
all the time. You have to say, what's gonna get
my players playing the best they can, what's gonna get
this team going the best they can? And sometimes you
gotta take a back seat to that. Sometimes Belichick had
to take a back seat to it New England, and
he didn't like doing it. But he never once said
(30:33):
a bad word in public about never once when you
you know he was probably mad Brady changed that bleep
in play again if he changes one more bleep and
playing with my fist through a wall. But at the
end of the game, did you ever say anything, No,
he said, yea, it happened Rhonda Cincinnati. I mean that
they never did that and that and that's one thing
that I really am surprised. They give them both a
lot of credit for it. That's how it should be.
And right away Brady comes to Tampa and suddenly Bruce
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Arians is saying, yeah, I don't know about this. That's
a bad throw. That says whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa whoa. So I I get that part of it, man,
I really do. Yeah, I kind of look at it
this way is if you didn't, if you're Tom Brady,
you didn't recognize that that was Bruce Arians when you
walked in the door. Yeah, but you're Tom Brady. Now,
I don't care. I don't give a damn that. That's
how you problem. You have more and you need to
(31:15):
be a damn grown up about it. You're still harboring resentment.
You know, look in the mirror and and say hey,
I did make a bad throw and get over it.
But here's another great one and we go and win
a Super Bowl. Sometimes you need to be poked and product.
That's the way life works with great great responsive need
to pud I think he's a pretty good motivator. I
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think he's pretty good at that. And you know, the
recovery wear and everything. I mean, he did a lot
of things to help process. There's no question about it.
But again, if you're gonna go play for Bruce Arians,
I think you know what you're dealing with. Right. If
you're studying as much tape as you are, you're getting
a pretty good scouting profile on the person that is
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amid reports that Julius Randall could James Harden his way
off of the Knicks, right, just do one of those.
It's not working. I want out. We spoke that into existence.
Now it's happening. He is booed tonight during pregame introductions
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for the Knicks at home. The Knicks wind up losing.
LaMelo Ball has seventy four assists in the game, So
it's it's one of those games. Um, I gotta tell
you this, it's going It's going to happen Julius Randalls
in his final days as a Nick. And it's not
because well, you gotta trade it. No, you have to
move on from him now because clearly he's going to
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be divisive. And that's the thing this is. This is
not a case of hey, here's a highly paid player
who was underperforming. He's not what we thought he was,
so we got to ride it out until we find
somebody to take his contract, right, that's not this, that's
why the whole well all you're gonna get his salary,
dump stuff for Julius rand Why would you do that? Wait,
wait to trade him. You can't because clearly it's not
(34:08):
about on the court. It's about everything that pervades the
locker room and the team. He's adversarial with the fans,
he is moping on the court. He is not a
good teammate. He's walking off the court after wins being
piste off because he didn't play for eleven minutes in
the fourth quarter. He has hit his expiration date with
New York. Sometimes you have to move somebody because their
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presence is dragging the organization down. And Julius Reynolds not
a guy who can just sit through it and and
and try to get to a better place and and
and be a good teammate along the way. No, he
is completely trying to derail things. And when that happens,
guy's gotta go. If he wants that, yeah, I'll be
I'll help drive the guy to the airport. He's not
He's not the player that NIXT thought he was when
(34:51):
they signed him. Either on or off the court, Yeah,
it's time for him to go and they'll move on
from him and he'll go someplace else. He was a
good player last year. Everything came together one year and
now he gets the money, the responsibility, and the spotlight
is too bright for him. Yes, he will be on
a new team next season because he's gonna make it
too difficult to stay on the team. And that's the
big key. Thirty million dollars a year, four year deal
(35:14):
forthcoming a guy who's had a really good four plus
year run and then this year is just so so odd, right,
just again, you get the contract and obviously the responsibility
and the expectations that this team would continue to grow.
You've seen the the burst from r J Barrett year
(35:35):
three to become a guy that's like, all right now
he's our one, and you just settling as one a
And whether it's ego or or just crumbling because the
fish wraps and the sports talk radio hosts are getting
after you a bit. Uh, just such a disappointment compared
(35:55):
to where he was starting to build, right because he
crawled out of everything that was going on with the Lakers,
and people thinking he he underperformed their rebuilt things, got
the big deal was in the Mecca and now it's
it's falling apart, and now he's going to be a
we want this contract, good luck good luck Lakers, good
luck Lakers are gonna get you know, Lakers again him
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the drought is over for the first time in two thousand,
eight hundred and twenty nine days. The United States men's
national team we'll be participating in the World Cup as
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they succeeded in not losing six nothing to Costa Rica. Yeah,
that's it. Succeed and proceed doesn't have to be pretty.
You don't have to. I mean, as long as you
walk out of there and didn't give up six goals.
I don't that Costa Rica had six shots on goal
no for the night. Look, the United States clearly uh
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and put everything into their game against Panama, which is fine.
You expect a bit of a of a down swing
or a bounce in this game and that's what you
got and okay to nothing. And I know people are
gonna say, oh, they had to it doesn't matter. We're
in the World Cup. We don't have to worry about
qualifying now for another eight years because the next Cup
we're hosting, So we're in no matter what. Yeah, it
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is the lead with some of the thought pieces that
started to run and for us, I mean we're doing
sports talk radio. Just saying hey, they're in is great. Uh,
you know, but you gotta go a little deeper and
just say, wow, man, you still want to put off
an effort, right, it's still a chance to to put
some things on tape. Puts it. Nah, doesn't matter, we
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made the tournament, la blah blah blah blah. We're in.
We're in. Yeah, that's how it had that. Now, if
this game was like if this game was like three
nothing at halftime and then it got you know what
I really want, So I shouldn't say that, shouldn't put
it out in the universe, but you know what I
really wanted was like around the eightieth minute for it
to be five nothing. Yeah, but like what what that
would have been for the last ten minutes of the
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game being five nothing, knowing the next goal means you're
out of the World Cup, And just what what would
that have been like being five nothing at that point?
I'll tell you what the psychology of that, the fandom.
You want to talk about getting ratings, right, I mean
we talked a lot about the oscars and the uptick
(02:31):
to be kind right to call it that after the
slap herd scene around the world. I mean, think about
this final ten minutes. United States in control that you know,
we control our own destiny. One of the worst phrases,
uh in the English language, But here we are. They
literally just did not need to lose by six. If
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that was on on the cusp of happening, I mean,
are you you're talking about all right, how do I
find the channel that it's being televised on? Because that
would have gone viral very quickly. Why because everybody would
have been chiming in with a blue check mark. Every
Hollywood celebrity, every athlete, ex athlete that has even one
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percent stake in it would have been fired up about it. Uh.
If we'd gotten to that point, are we really gonna
choke this away? And all the people that want to say,
see the women know women's team doesn't have to deal
with this. They just they just went. But here's the thing, now,
this is why. Here's why I give a left turn
for before you get back into right. This is why
tonight's outcome was the best thing for fans of the
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US men's national team. Right. Here's why why it was
the best for fans in the United States because they win,
they get in the World Cup. So we can celebrate.
Yet we can still complain about coach Greg Burr Alter
is we still doesn't matter. We got it. It's great,
but we can still complain about how bad. It's like
the head coach of a football team that says, what's
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the best thing you can do? Well? The best thing
is for us to win a game, but for us
to not look good doing it. So I can be
on the guys in practice and they understand we have
to do better the next game. That's that's the dream
of a coach. We win, but we look bad doing it.
They know we have to focus for the next game.
This is the best thing for fans because we're in.
We're so excited. At the same time, boy, Greg Burr Halter,
what the hell is he doing? What if he's thinking
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this is the best because now we can complain about
Burr Halter. This is the best outcome for everybody. This
is a gift we got tonight. It was a gift,
Mike Carman, a gift. I have only one thing to
respond with, USA, USA, That's what we do. We've got
it great, but you know what we want a little
bit more? Right, it's the Montgomery Burns line and you know, Smithers,
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I love more in the US men's national team coming
up throughout the show, because, like I said, it's the
best thing we can complain about Burr Alter. It's so great.
But hey, the big bombshell that dropped earlier tonight, Bruce
Arians no longer the head coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
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He is getting kicked upstairs to the front office. Todd
Bowle's defensive coordinator, former Jets head coach will take over.
UH four Arians and last hour we talked. We had
a great, big power hour about how this was Tom
Brady's power play. He used retirement as his leverage because
we knew that he wasn't getting along with Bruce Arians,
and it got so bad to the point that Brady
(05:44):
retired rather than say I'm coming back, and now he
forced change. Bruce Arians winds up leaving. You're gonna hear
from rich orn Berger coming up in a few minutes.
He joined us last hour and gave us some great
insight into exactly what the UH was at the base
of the feuding between Brady and Arian, something he reported
about a month and a half ago and got a
lot of flak. Four. Now it turns out he's the
(06:05):
smartest guy in the room. I mean. Arians clapped back
in a very very large way, which which led you
to raise your eyebrow. If if you're reading, you know
the tea leaves and and how people respond to searching
situations like that, right, the more aggressively, they fight back
on it. The more likely is that you know you've
hit on some fundamental truth of the process therein so clearly, Look,
(06:30):
three of the smartest guys in the room, the two
of us in Rich orin Burger, right, I mean, hey,
when we're right, we gotta say it. We've been right,
we've been hot, and we've been rolling sevens. Man, we're
rolling sevens eleven seven eleven seven. But for a different
angle on this, for a couple of minutes, right, Todd
Bowles is now going to succeed Bruce Arians be the
new head coach in Tampa, and it could have either
been him or Byron Leftwich, but Todd Bowles gets the gig.
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Bruce Arians talked about how this succession plan was kind
of in place, and he wants Todd Bowls to be
in a good job because if something happens next year
and they go like ten and seven and Bruce Arians
decides to retire, then a bunch of people are getting
interviewed for the job and Todd Bowls might not get it,
and he wanted to kind of help take care of
Bowls and put him in a position to succeed here
(07:13):
in Tampa. Now, let me tell you this, and because
you know me, like I watched Todd Bowls. He was
my coach for three years Super Bowls. I was very excited.
Word on the second year, I was not excited anymore. Um,
he's going to succeed in Tampa. For the main reasons
is that the things that absolutely sunk him in New
York are not gonna be issues in Tampa. Right now. Clearly,
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there's the first time around thing as a head coach.
And alright, he he was okay, the players liked him,
but you know then he lost his grip on the
team for different reasons. But there is a bit of
the hey, second time around, I learned from my mistakes
the first time, right, and and that's and that's for
everybody and every job you do. Hey, all right now,
I know what I'm getting into. Uh. Clearly, the pressure
cooker of New York is a really big deal. Even
(07:57):
though he played there. It's much different to be the
head coach in Tampa. Not quite the pressure cooker. So
that's gonna help him. But I'll tell you, the three
things that dogged him the most in New York his
entire time there aren't going to be issues in Tampa.
The first thing was that the offense had no identity
and no plan. Right. He had three coordinators in in
three years. It was awful. The front office didn't help
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him out. They drafted Christian Hackenburg. It was just awful.
The offense did not have an identity, and he's not
an offensive coach. So that's something that hey, good luck,
good luck trying to make this work. And when I'm
not an offensive coach and we're going to continue to
change coaches and change quarterbacks, that was a really difficult
spot to put him in. Don't have to worry about
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that in Tampa. The offense takes care of itself. He
might not even be in any offensive meetings. He might say,
this half of the building is for the offense. You
guys are over there. I'll show up on Friday. You
show me what the game plan is. I'll be with
the defense over here. So that's number one. He doesn't
have to worry about the offense needing an identity, needing
to to bring along offensive players, needing to make to
see if they it with the team. You know what fits.
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This is a veteran team. They've brought back the guys
that wanted brought back. They brought in a couple of
new guys. They wanted all these guys know, there're sticking.
It's the same offense, it's the same players. This should
not be uh, something that affects him, because clearly that
was the big thing in New York was the fact
that on offense they couldn't develop any kind of identity.
But now in Tampa don't have to worry about that.
Mike Carmon, that is free and clear for him. Well,
(09:23):
you've got plenty of guys that will take the reins
right and that's part of the power of play being
executed by Tom Brady, the return of Byron Left, which
which I think is part of the the larger plan. Right,
if you're gonna say this was all scripted, and you
have to decide how much of this you believe, much
like what we were talking about with the the oscars.
Was it a work, was it not? Was it a
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work that went too far? Whatever else? But with this one,
it's the same thing. Right. There's a lot of spin
going on right now as to how this succession plan
came together, but certainly offensively, we've heard the tales of
Brady recruiting. Yeah, I'm coming back. And you saw a
number of the players that were already there in Tampa.
We're we're just kind of waiting around and waiting out
(10:06):
free agency. You're gonna come back. You're gonna do this
sure behind the scenes. You know, you've got a bit
of the right decisions gotta come because, like we talked
about it with the you know guys in Vegas calling
foul about inside information like no, no, no, the clock
was ticking, the sand was running out of the hourglass. Uh.
For Brady to make a decision before that legal tampering
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period again another phrase in American culture that makes absolutely
no sense. But the before that period began, he had
to make a decision. Why so these guys could go
make their decisions about where they were gonna apply their
wares uh and execute this next year. So the phone
calls start, Gradkowski doesn't is in no hurry to come
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back physically, and you know what he's able to do
on on short notice. Hell, he went from the w
w E, the Fox telecasts center there off the Pico
Lie back onto the field and he's been just fine
at the Russell Gauge effects. So yeah, offensively You've got
nothing to worry about, Todd Bowls. Just here. You need
(11:10):
to sign off on some form at the end of
each week that you checked the game plan I was
to make the fans and the UH describes happy checked
in like the like the guy like like when you
go into a public restroom and there's or or not
a public rest but when you go into the restaurant
in a restaurant and there's always that has to be
a sign in cheat for the last time the person's
(11:31):
leaned the bathroom, and I always look and go, man,
no one's cleaning his bathroom since one o'clock. Yes, spend
a couple of hours, Man, yesterday early, what happened here?
You gotta sign up and tell me you were there? Man,
I don't. I'm not going in this one. Uh. The
other two things for him are that he did not
(11:52):
have the support of the front office. Remember it wasn't
Mike mccagnan who was hired that hired. Todd Bowles was
Bulls was hired. Mccagnan hired right after, and it was
kind of an arranged marriage. And look, mccagun was a
bad gm UH. And so that's a difficult thing when
you know, you don't have the support of the front
office when you're not the guy the GM hires. It's tough.
Do you have to worry about that? Here, Todd Bowls
has all the support in the world from the front
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office because it's the same it's the same owner as
the GM that hired him, and it's his head coaches
now being bumped up to the front office. So he's
got the support of the front office. And the other
thing is discipline issues. Right, he had a lot of
discipline issues with the Jets, and I don't think he
knew how to quite handle them. But this being a
veteran team and Antonio Brown being gone, I don't think
you have to worry about that. I mean clearly now
(12:35):
that it's not gonna be where a by is gonna
come back to the day. I'm ready to come back. Man,
Bruce has got no, no, no. As long as he's
as long as he's gone, the discipline issues won't be
a thing. But those are the three things that crushed
Todd Bowls with the Jets. No identity on offense, front
office and discipline issues. None of those are gonna be
issues with Tampa. He will be just fine. This year,
and you will see Brady who you never have to
(12:56):
worry about his motivation. You watch Tampa now running rough
shot over the regular season this year, He's he's out
there motivated, showing how big a player he is and
what he's still capable of. I'll tell you it's it's
really hard to say. Hey, a coach stepping away is
a big thing and a positive thing for the Bucks.
But I honestly feel better about Tampa going into this
(13:17):
season than I would have if Bruce arians was still
the head coach. I feel much better because I feel
better about Brady and his motivation and being able to
finish what they went through last year and and not
have a lot of controversy that snipping at their heels.
I feel much better about them this year. Yeah. Look,
I felt fine about him last year. I just again,
if if works doesn't get hurt, do we have a
(13:38):
different result in that game? Right? Is there a different
start instead of Tom Brady trying to do the soft
shoe and get the ball out, et cetera, and obviously
not having Godwin. But it is what it is. Yeah,
you move forward and you bring back a lot of
the principal components you add a Russell gauge and I
know Antonio Brown not being there, A lot of memes
a lot of folks with the uh super imposing Brady's
(14:01):
head on Antonio Brown's body for that goodbye after he'd
undressed and started getting to the locker room. So that
that's kind of interesting. But we look at the situation here.
Sure the front office, Yeah, Bruce arians goes upstairs. You know,
you've got a guy who who's well acquainted with the
players on every aspect. I think that's a big win
(14:23):
right there. Jason, is is that that element of it
normally there's that separation. Well, yeah, it is to a degree,
but you know, he helped put that squad together and
he knows all these guys a bit deeper. And the
other is, uh, you forgot point number four. They're not
the Jets. Oh you know. Okay, there is that too.
(14:45):
There is that there, There is that there not the Jets.
There is that, okay there, but the other things are
bigger deal. Let mean, you could say that about any team. No, no, no,
that that's certainly except for the Lions. You if you're
the Lions, you can't see, well, we're not the Jets. No,
due to the Lions. That's about them. That's about the
only team you can Now. I think it's exciting times
and we'll find out what's real, what's imagined. Uh. In
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Jay Glazer, we know he's uh, you know, buddies with
Bruce Arians Arians. Here Here was his tweet earlier quote.
Arians told me, once he knew Brady was coming back,
he started thinking he could step away and leave Bowls
in a great position. Said there was a rule they
needed clarified, which they got this weekend owners meeting, which
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Slash match limitations they do apply. Well, you know, before
we get back into Tom Brady and Bruce Arians and
the big news today. Um, it comes out today regarding
the Will Smith Chris Rock slap that Will Smith was
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asked to leave the Academy Awards after slapping Chris Rock
and he refused, and supposedly the members were upset, and
now they have a fifteen day time span at which
they're going to discuss everything from Will Smith giving back
the Oscar, to being banned from the Academy, to be
banned from future Oscar telecast. All of these things are
on the table, right. Oh, we asked him and he
(16:31):
didn't leave. Um, this goes to what we talked about
on Monday, is that what we've lost in this country
is sense of class and and how to act in
certain situations. Right, there's no there's no more there's no
more self uh self awareness checks that people have. They
(16:53):
just decide I can do stuff because what are you
gonna do to me? There's no ramifications. I'm not gonna
have to face responsibility for it. Will Smith decided it
was okay to go up and hit Chris Rock because
what are they gonna do to me? What are they
really gonna do to me there? Why are they're gonna
put me in jail? And no, they're not gonna do
anything to me. And what happened He went up and
slap Chris Rock and he sat down and they asked
him to leave, and he said, no, what are you
gonna do to me? You're gonna bring security over and
(17:15):
escort me out. Yeah, they probably should have, but again,
this is this is the whole thing about why when
when events shocking events like this happened, it's not shocking
anymore because no one no one acts in in in
public situations. If to say, Okay, I need to have
some kind of modicum of of sanity here, and as
upset as I might be, I can't go do this. No,
that's all the window right now. I'm gonna do whatever
(17:36):
the hell I want to, because really, what ramifications do
I have to worry about? How responsible are you gonna
make me for this? And right now they're not. They
haven't done anything. And the thing is, had they done that,
had they moved will Smith out of the oscars and
and had they they said, then it might have been
over by now. But the fact they didn't do it,
and now they're getting so much flak for not doing it.
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How do you let him stay on the telecast? Look,
we talked about that right after. That was the most
shocking thing to me. Now they're gonna have to go
even further the other way. They're gonna have to ban him,
they're gonna take his oscar away. All of these things
are gonna happen because it's so embarrassing. They couldn't take
care of it the first time, because again, there's no accountability.
We don't hold people accountable. Public figures aren't held accountable
anymore for anything they might do. Yeah, I mean, look, obviously,
(18:19):
whenever you gotta he high Q rating and you move
the needle, and certainly for the broadcast itself, we talked
about you know how viewers started tuning in, what's gonna happen?
How are they going to respond? You could have gone
to a much longer commercial break right at another thirty
seconds and instead of him being consoled again, we we
don't need to relitigate the whole thing. You can go
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the argument at Swollen Dome. Um, I hate you run Burgundy. No,
but I mean you had him getting consoled by all
these guys. You know what, a security guy could have
walked up and said, you know what, you need to
leave and really actually made it happen. The fact that
(19:01):
no security was ever seen, uh in any of this
means you had a bunch of inactivity because behind the scenes,
at least one of those guys. And here's you know,
some wanton speculations like you know this, this is really ugly,
but it's good for business. Watch what happens. They're gonna
talk now. We haven't talked to nearly as much about
all of the great Oscar winners and you know, thrusting
(19:23):
you know, attention back into those movies. So maybe you
go and find them. Uh all the air in the room.
And now Chris rock Is is on tour. His tour
started immediately thereafter. Uh, so you have that going on.
But it's the fact that the Academy did nothing in
the entirety of the show because it was a long
way to go before that show ended. Right, Yeah, plenty
(19:46):
of opportunity, plenty of commercial breaks, plenty of pay you
know what. We love you, Denzel, we love you, Bradley Cooper,
We we love all you guys want to console him,
he's got to go because you know, we we've got
no but this is you know, I was talking with
the girls about this a little earlier, my daughters as
we were eating dinner, and it's like, well, you kind
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of have a Hollywood assemblage of folks there that talk
about the importance of words and and you know, talking
through issues, and then you had the slap right and
talking about how words matter. And then there's clips of
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him using that on a guy that was part of
our Cineo Hall's crew many years ago. You have Jada
Pinkett Smith with quotes of I don't care it's my hair.
I embrace it. You know, this is my head? Like, Okay,
what's real? What's imagined at this point? And how much
is the other stuff that has been bandied about and
been the butt of jokes and conversations forever? So to say,
(20:49):
now you're going to start activity, what You're gonna take
the oscar from him? Look at all the other guys
you've given oscars to that you haven't taken away. You
might have banded them from your ceremonies. But you did
you take that stuff away. It's like removing victories for
college basketball. No, I watched it, it happened. They won't.
You can't take it away. You cannot like it. You
can cast the gator, you can wag your finger, you
(21:11):
could do whatever you need to and tell him he
can never sit in the front row and he won't
get to to read the nominees on the winner for
Best Actress next year. But beyond that, like it's all
emptiness at this point, like there's you had your chance
to make your statement, you blew it, putting it out
later we have horror violence whatever, No, you didn't. You
(21:31):
let him sit back down, You let him scream profanity,
set a dude, and you did nothing. So yeah, they
can all beat it Twitter, And how about a Fresco
Mike hat swollen down the Jason Smiths with Mike car
buton So again, if Will Smith gets kicked out of
the Academy by the end of the show, we'll have
that breaking news, but it's probably gonna be another few days.
They'll get jiggy with it. Meanwhile, earlier tonight, uh, we
(21:55):
talked to rich Ordenberger former teammate of Tom Brady's does
the morning show uh in San Diego, our teammate here
at Fox Sports Radio, NFL Insider, And if you remember
Richard and Burger, he was the one who had the
report a couple of months ago that the relationship between
Tom Brady and Bruce Arians had soured. And you got
a lot of flak four it and Bruce Arians clap
back at it. Everything is fine, Everything is fine. Well,
(22:18):
guess who's got the last laugh there after today and
the big news that Bruce Arians is moving upstairs with
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and will no longer be the
head coach. What else is there to think? We told
you when Tom Brady's retirement happened, something smells fish sabbatical.
This is not Yeah, it's a forty day. He retired
(22:38):
for lent, retired for four. He gave up football. Something
was fishy, and we knew it was an endgame that
Brady had going on. And clearly now we see it.
He used his retirement as leverage because he wasn't getting
along with Bruce Arians. He wanted to get out of
Tampa and this is why he retired. Well, listen, I
don't have to play at all. Aaron Rodgers threatened retire
(23:00):
airman Tom Brady actually just did it because that that's all,
you know. I always have more respect for someone who
just does something his leverage than threatens to do it
his leverage. Right Brady just said, yeah, I'm retiring. Whoaa,
and but right away wouldn't close the door on it.
So what happened? He had Tampa Bay scattering Tom, what
do we need to do? What needs to happen, and
lo and behold the day Tom Brady decided to return
(23:21):
to the NFL. Supposedly, that was when the decision was
made that Bruce Arians would move up to the front
office of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and no longer be
the head coach. So now we know Brady retired for
a strategical reason. He wanted to try to either get
out of Tampa or get Exactly what happened to occur.
Bruce Arians no longer the head coach because they had
(23:42):
a rift with each other and Brady couldn't work with
him anymore. And that's exactly what happened. So for all
of this, Ah, Brady's done. No, No, we told you
from the beginning that Brady's retirement was about something else.
And here's Rich orn Berger from earlier in the show
as he was outlining what the issues Brady had, not
just with Bruce Arians but with other coaches on the
(24:04):
Tampa Bay Buccaneers coaching staff. Take a listen. Was this
over control of the offense? Was it more about the
play calling? Was it the culture itself? Like? What what
was the what were the biggest things that that that
caused this? Uh, this rift? Well, from what I heard
and what I ascertained, the rift was caused between him
and Bruce over the fact that Brady's a complete workaholic.
(24:26):
I mean that guy will put everybody to sleep. He
will rest never to make sure that they're pursuing greatness
and perfection if he can help it. And Bruce, as
we know, has really trimmed his schedule down. That was
part of his contract when he re upped with the
Boxes that he was going to take a much different
approach to head coaching than virtually any of the other
(24:48):
thirty one head coaches in this week. You know, it's
a it's it's a job where most of the times
you're not burning the midnight oil, you're burning burning the
next morning oil and then some you know, and that's
the way Tom Brady operated for two decades in New
England with one of those coaches, and I think a
lot of that rubbed off on Tom, that a lot
of that was in Tom to begin with. So I
(25:10):
think when you have a situation where you have a
coach who obviously is very comfortable with the media and
very comfortable accepting phrase and very comfortable criticizing a star
quarterback who's doing a lot and I mean a lot
of the heavy lifting, I think there was some some
there was some animosity growing up there. That's my own speculation,
(25:32):
but but I think that's that's that's as accurate as
I could portray it um in terms of what I
heard about, you know, issues with other members of the
coaching staff. I mean, there were battles over the run
games between him and Byron Left, which you know, they
disagreed on a lot of the play selection during the
course of the game. Brady changed a lot of the
(25:54):
calls that were coming in from the sideline at the
line of scrimmage in game, to the point where as
far as the game that Byron was calling from the
sideline and Brady was running on the field, it was
completely different. He was running his own playbook on the field.
So so that that just takes you a little bit
deeper into some of the issues that we're going on.
(26:15):
Amid a really successful season, regardless of how many injuries
they have, they still found a way into the postseason
and gave the Rams all they could handle almost came
back in one. All right, So let's deal with the
first part of this for a couple of minutes. That uh,
Brady was a workaholic. Bruce Arians trimmed his schedule back,
and Brady didn't like the fact that he was being
(26:37):
criticized as much in public by Bruce Arians. I get that, right,
I get because I I get the philosophy of Hey,
if you want to be a big time part of
this and you want to you want to throw, you
gotta be here with me. You gotta be here and
if your schedule doesn't allow you to do I get it.
I I completely get that. But don't start calling it,
calling me out in public because of something you think
(26:58):
I'm not doing right when I'm the one here working
as hard as I can. I completely understand that. And
and that's where Bruce Arians probably needed to have a
better thought of boy knowing this, how is this gonna
play out? How is how is me questioning Tom Brady
in public going to really play out? I mean, this
is who I've been my whole career, right, and I
get that from Bruce Arians. But now you have the
(27:19):
best quarterback any of us have seen. You really think
you need to motivate Tom Brady that Brady's get Brady?
You really think you need to find the way? Okay,
how do I push his buttons to get the best
effort out of him? Brady is always gonna give you
the best effort. Coaches wish they had fifty Tom Brady's
on their team as far as the desire level to
be better. If they had that, those teams wi win
the Super Bowl and go undefeated. You don't need to
(27:40):
be as talented as Brady, but the desire he has
to work and because this is what he does, and
for Bruce Arians and and for that to be something
at the at the heart of it. Yeah, I completely
get Tom Brady being upset about that. Yeah, I think
there's just that we didn't have time, right Obviously, you
get a running clock and and we were near the
end of our time with Rich It's like, how how
(28:00):
much does a coach really need to be there? Like
the the perception of all right, you need to be
around the clock, man, you need to sleep on the
floor on a cot on a blow up mattress that
you bought a Dick Sporting Goods at the start of
training camp and you're getting many weary miles out of it.
Whatever else Like that part of it. I've always just wandered, like,
(28:20):
can't we do things more efficiently? Haven't we have we
advanced to where we maybe can do these communications a
little differently, But whatever perception reality, And certainly Brady had
a coach who, while he might criticize the overall effort
of a squad forever in New England, never would just
point directly at Brady and say that gay. So you know,
(28:44):
arians and learning to deal with that, I'm sure that's different,
especially when you're in your twenty of your career and
now you start you know, we're we're counting hours like
it's I don't know that that part seems and look,
and not to say anybody's above being that one just
step part of it just seems kind of laughable to
a degree. So I because Bruce Arians can say, you
(29:06):
know what, I got my part done. If you want
to keep going neck through, that's fine. We we did it,
and you know, check the box and move on. Uh.
You know, just because you were there a couple extra
hours doesn't mean you would have changed anything of how
you executed a play in game. Yeah, but but you
know what I mean in Mountain public. You know, as
as as much as we know Belichick and Brady hated
each other, did Brady ever say anything once in public
(29:29):
about Belichick that made it seem like we're not on
the same page. He didn't, So I get why he's
made Suddenly Bruce Arians going, yeah, I don't know about
those throws. I don't know what that was all about.
I can see where that pisses him off a little bits.
I understand it to a degree. But in the end,
you're all you're all adults. Figure it out, right, And
Brady wanted to figure it out with Okay, stop calling
(29:49):
me out in public, and Bruce Arians wouldn't do it,
and and then that up fun. That upset but that's
part of the fun for Arians. That's fun for you
and me, and it's fun for Bruce arians not and
for Tom Brady, not fun for the for the long term. Man,
He's not Kurt Hanning, He's not Mr. Perfect. I think
it's easy to not call out Tom Brady in public
(30:11):
making a couple of bad throws. I'm pretty sure he's
earned that right. That's a big thing. Look, you gotta
be who you are. I understand that. But you know what,
when you're a coach, you don't get to do that
all the time. You have to say, what's gonna get
my players playing the best they can, what's gonna get
this team going the best they can? And sometimes you
gotta take a back seat to that. Sometimes Belichick had
to take a back seat to it New England, and
he didn't like doing it. But he never once said
(30:33):
a bad word in public about never once when you
you know he was probably mad Brady changed that bleep
in play again if he changes one more bleep and
playing with my fist through a wall. But at the
end of the game, did you ever say anything, No,
he said, yea, it happened Rhonda Cincinnati. I mean that
they never did that and that and that's one thing
that I really am surprised. They give them both a
lot of credit for it. That's how it should be.
And right away Brady comes to Tampa and suddenly Bruce
(30:55):
Arians is saying, yeah, I don't know about this. That's
a bad throw. That says whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa whoa. So I I get that part of it, man,
I really do. Yeah, I kind of look at it
this way is if you didn't, if you're Tom Brady,
you didn't recognize that that was Bruce Arians when you
walked in the door. Yeah, but you're Tom Brady. Now,
I don't care. I don't give a damn that. That's
how you problem. You have more and you need to
(31:15):
be a damn grown up about it. You're still harboring resentment.
You know, look in the mirror and and say hey,
I did make a bad throw and get over it.
But here's another great one and we go and win
a Super Bowl. Sometimes you need to be poked and product.
That's the way life works with great great responsive need
to pud I think he's a pretty good motivator. I
(31:36):
think he's pretty good at that. And you know, the
recovery wear and everything. I mean, he did a lot
of things to help process. There's no question about it.
But again, if you're gonna go play for Bruce Arians,
I think you know what you're dealing with. Right. If
you're studying as much tape as you are, you're getting
a pretty good scouting profile on the person that is
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UH one big basketball story to get to Tonight and
amid reports that Julius Randall could James Harden his way
off of the Knicks, right, just do one of those.
It's not working. I want out. We spoke that into existence.
Now it's happening. He is booed tonight during pregame introductions
(33:25):
for the Knicks at home. The Knicks wind up losing.
LaMelo Ball has seventy four assists in the game, So
it's it's one of those games. Um, I gotta tell
you this, it's going It's going to happen Julius Randalls
in his final days as a Nick. And it's not
because well, you gotta trade it. No, you have to
move on from him now because clearly he's going to
(33:47):
be divisive. And that's the thing this is. This is
not a case of hey, here's a highly paid player
who was underperforming. He's not what we thought he was,
so we got to ride it out until we find
somebody to take his contract, right, that's not this, that's
why the whole well all you're gonna get his salary,
dump stuff for Julius rand Why would you do that? Wait,
wait to trade him. You can't because clearly it's not
(34:08):
about on the court. It's about everything that pervades the
locker room and the team. He's adversarial with the fans,
he is moping on the court. He is not a
good teammate. He's walking off the court after wins being
piste off because he didn't play for eleven minutes in
the fourth quarter. He has hit his expiration date with
New York. Sometimes you have to move somebody because their
(34:29):
presence is dragging the organization down. And Julius Reynolds not
a guy who can just sit through it and and
and try to get to a better place and and
and be a good teammate along the way. No, he
is completely trying to derail things. And when that happens,
guy's gotta go. If he wants that, yeah, I'll be
I'll help drive the guy to the airport. He's not
He's not the player that NIXT thought he was when
(34:51):
they signed him. Either on or off the court, Yeah,
it's time for him to go and they'll move on
from him and he'll go someplace else. He was a
good player last year. Everything came together one year and
now he gets the money, the responsibility, and the spotlight
is too bright for him. Yes, he will be on
a new team next season because he's gonna make it
too difficult to stay on the team. And that's the
big key. Thirty million dollars a year, four year deal
(35:14):
forthcoming a guy who's had a really good four plus
year run and then this year is just so so odd, right,
just again, you get the contract and obviously the responsibility
and the expectations that this team would continue to grow.
You've seen the the burst from r J Barrett year
(35:35):
three to become a guy that's like, all right now
he's our one, and you just settling as one a
And whether it's ego or or just crumbling because the
fish wraps and the sports talk radio hosts are getting
after you a bit. Uh, just such a disappointment compared
(35:55):
to where he was starting to build, right because he
crawled out of everything that was going on with the Lakers,
and people thinking he he underperformed their rebuilt things, got
the big deal was in the Mecca and now it's
it's falling apart, and now he's going to be a
we want this contract, good luck good luck Lakers, good
luck Lakers are gonna get you know, Lakers again him
(36:17):
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