June 2, 2022 • 35 mins
Welcome into the Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon! Ryan Hollins filling in for Mike tonight explains how being an ex-NBA player there's a lot more to a scouting report than you think. Mike Trout doesn't answer questions regarding the confrontation within the fantasy league he's the commissioner for, and NBA brawls have nothing on NHL!
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I'll tell you Ryan, we made We almost made it, man.
You know the forty five day break between the conference
finals and the NBA Finals. We've made it. We're We're
on Game one finals. Eve. I think it's time to
get excited. Yeah, I mean it's about time. And you
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know what, we got the matchup we wanted. Did you
want to see the Heat? Oh? No, I want to
come on, man, really it had to be the Celtics
and the Warriors. Listen, we have all due respect for
what the Heat have done. They're grinders, they're hard workers.
It's an amazing story. But they play a very slow
style of basketball. I think this is a season they
can be extremely proud of. But you get more of
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a box office, more of a a match up with
Warriors and Curry versus the Celtics. Their tradition, you know,
is take them going to be the next name you got.
You got a little bit more star power with the Celtics.
With all due respect, we love what the Heat did,
but you know you got a little more to watch here. No, no,
I could say it. I mean real outside of Heat
fans who wanted to see the Heat. Right, you can
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only make Jimmy Butler so much, Right, you can make
Jimmy Butler, Hey, Jimmy Butler is a great player. He'll
score forty one game, He'll score nine in the next game.
You can only make the Heat happen to a point, right,
and it's good as Luca is. Can you imagine it
will be all right, we're gonna talk about Luca for
the next like ten days and what he's got and
what he's got to improve. I mean, the NBA got
lucky because Warriors Celtics. That's kind of what you wanted
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if they had Mavericks and heat. Oh boy, this isn't
Lebron versus Dirk. You know we're not. We're not getting
that matchup again. So this was This was about as
good as the NBA could hope for, because I think
more people would watch you and me and Frostburg and Harmon,
you know, getting that because you know, because I know
what our offense is gonna be. It would be you
down low and the four of us hoisting up threes.
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That's all it would be. And you and you down low,
and as soon as you got the rebound, I'd be
the one clapping going back out, come on back out,
back out, back out, back out. That's what I would do.
Come on, back out, back out, come on, I got
another shot, come on back out to me. No chance
you would take care of you, Take care you big,
I get your wife. You're if you're open, I'm gonna
get you in the basketball. I don't worry. But just
just hit your open joppers for me? All right? Who
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is who is your teammate that would do that? All
the years you played? Who is the one guy that
every time you got the ball if you had a
rebound was all it's like, hey, back out to me?
Who was who was the guy that did that to you?
I mean, like like that verbally you would go back
out just so you knew wanted the ball back, like
right away, whether verbally or clapping, wanting the ball, and
who was that guy wanted it right back? So you're
saying like obnoxious a little bit or not? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
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yeah yeah, Like I was just right there like, oh,
rebound eight back out, back out, come on, back out,
come on, come on, come on home. You don't do
that in the NBA. It doesn't not like park ball.
And I'm thinking about this is not park ball. It's
it's almost it's like disrespectful. You can't do that. No, no, no, no,
it doesn't happen to the NBA. Even that happens. You're
like Kobe Bryant could get away with that. Kobe whoa
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eight plays off? Get me the basketball? And you had
to get Kobe the ball. Okay, that's not normally you know, happening.
Kobe can get away with it. Come on, Chris Paul
never did that to you. Come on, man, Chris Paul
never did that. Never, never did that. He give me
the ball back? Well, no, Chris is a great passer,
so you wanted to throw him the ball because he
get the ball back to you. You know he's gonna
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make the right play. So it's not in this sinse
that you're saying. Anybody who's ever played picked up basketball,
you know that guy who wants to score every point.
He may even airballed or you know, hit three in
a row. He's gonna be clapping for the ball. You know,
he doesn't want anybody else shooting. You know, he's not
the same in the NBA and not the same, not
not quite there. Come on, he checked, man, I need
to heat check. Give me the ball, give me the ball.
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I'm gonna do it. Is that's a type of ball
player you are that? Uh oh No, I would have
to I would have to actually get really hot to
be in a heat check. Okay, I would never get
that hot. You're if you're clapping, it's a reason, okay, yeah,
because some clappers don't need a reason to clap. They're
just clappers. Yeah. No, no, because because when I played,
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I wasn't one of these, because you know, I'm only
five nine. I couldn't get my own shot like I
had to be able to you know, catch and shoot
or be away for a defender where it was a
dribble and I could take a three, Like, there's no way.
I was like, you know, I wasn't doing the Kobe.
I got the ball and I'm gonna but you know,
a head butt you to push you back and then
laid back. And I was not doing that that. That
was not my game. I could not do that least
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you You know who you are. You know he said,
he check is a heat check. You know who you
are as a player, man. That's all I asked. Sometimes.
You know we gonna play pick up ball. You play.
Don't be somebody that you're not. Nobody likes the guy
who's somebody that he's not. You're You're right at any level.
That is a thing. That's why we say Kobe Bryant's
the guy who can clap and you don't get offended.
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You know, it's like, not get him the ball, that's Kobe. Yeah,
it's very anti my personality too, because you know me,
I'm kind of alph I want but on on the
basketball court, I was always, hey, I'm gonna stay in
my lane, right. I know what I do well and
I'm gonna do it, and I'm not gonna try to
do something that I can't do. Other sports I played
with playing football or hockey or softball. Oh yeah, man,
I tried to do it all. I could do this,
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I could do this. But basketball I always knew. And
that's why people like me being on their team. I
was always I was always a point guard or I
would play shooting guard to be a combo guard if
somebody else. When when we when we had teams going
because they knew that I would make good decisions with
the ball and I wouldn't try to do something I couldn't.
I picked my spots. Man. I was people with people
like playing with me. Man. I was really good. I
was like the Steph Curry of pickup guys in in
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the Greater Central New York area when I was at Syracuse. Wow. Yeah,
I mean I didn't make those three but people like
playing with me. That's what it was. You're likable, You're likable. Yeah, okay, okay, okay, yeah,
oh yeah, I was completely Oh yeah, yeah, I'll take Jason.
Yeah yeah, because you know, when I get in trouble,
here's a ball, I'm not turning it over. I'm gonna
get it to You're gonna do something, gonna work it out.
Football shirt, you were the shirt tackler and football. I
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remember a good memory by you, like do good. I
think that. I think that about you. You know, As
the NBA veteran, I kind of classify people with their
scouting report as soon as I meet them, Like I'm
kind of like what type of athletes are you? I
kind of size you up, and that's it's just a
natural thing. So like I'll I may forget a lot
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of stuff. I won't forget a scouting report, you know.
I it's it's almost a curse, Like yeah, yeah, Jason Smith,
he's right handed. Um, you know if he's going left,
he's going left to pass. You know, he's got to
turn away j from the left block. Like, I know
you're scouting report. Once I see it, I know it.
Other things I may forget, all right, everything else I've forgotten. Well,
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that's kind of why you played in the NBA. As
long as you because you remembered stuff like that. Yeah,
because I got a feeling that there's a lot of
NBA players that don't, that don't remember scouting reports and
just got to go out and do my thing. Yeah,
and they didn't know. Like when I won my position,
you didn't. That's that was the difference between me and you.
I remember, I remember the plays and you didn't. Ye.
Like when I watch Russell Westbrook play defense, I okay,
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he has not looked at the scouting report. He's just
kind of standing waiting for the basketball. Russell Westbrook's not
a role player, man. He doesn't need the scouting report.
Role players needed. So is that what the coacher do? Say?
All right, and all the stars over here, all you
role players, We're gonna get to the scouting reports. Over
all you guys over here for film right now, superstars,
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go do whatever you want to do. Pretty much, if
the play got messed up. When I was right, I
was wrong, And when I was wrong, I was wrong.
And when you come to accept that, you can be
a veteran in the NBA. That's how you become a veteran.
You know, I was joking earlier about my guy I
played with Al Jefferson and Al Jefferson were running the
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triangle offense, and Al would he'd get on that left
block and his and his jump hook was unstoppable. And
I knew, no matter what side of the floor was on,
what play was running to, the whole team understood he
was our guy and whatever the play was, we were
gonna get him to where he wanted the basketball. It
didn't matter what the play was, You're gonna get him
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on that left block. So I would. I would know
even if I was the first guy down, I had
adjustin b second so he could get the ball. Zach
Randolph was the same, you know, Zach all he really
cared about We had all these all that cared about
get me the ball. He's a lefty, so he wanted
on the right block. Get him on the right block.
So I, okay, I'll take the other side. I'll know
the other played, get you where you need to go.
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Because when I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Okay, when I'm right,
I'm wrong, I knew it. Get him the ball. I'll
be ready on the other side. I'm digging. That's why
people like playing with you. Hey, listen, I can do
whatever I want Hollands, Will Hollands will make up for it.
It'll hey, all right, all right, So now let's let's
do this here now where we're getting as you said,
we're getting ready for the finals tomorrow. I made my
pick last night. I went Celtics and six. Uh. The
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youth of the Celtics, their defensive prowess. This is gonna
be one of those series where kind of like what
we saw with the Pistons and the Lakers in two
thousand four, when the Pistons surprised the Lakers, where the
Lakers look like they got old overnight in the NBA
Finals and the Pistons defense was was was right on there,
and Tayshaun Prince is writing Kobe's face the entire time.
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I kind of see a little bit um of a
lesser version of this, where as the as the series
goes on, Boston's youth is able to do what they
need to do defensively and make the Warriors look old.
Because you watched the Warriors had a lot of problems
earlier in the playoffs and that Memphis series. Now Memphis
was missing John Moran, which is a huge deal. You
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can't win in the playoffs without a superstar. But you know,
Clay had trouble getting his shots and so did Steph
and it wasn't quite the same thing. But they were
able to outlast because they were a better basketball team,
especially with with Memphis being without John Moran. I kind
of see that here. I think Boston's a little bit
too talented and I can see them slowing the Warriors down,
especially Marcus Smart as long as he's healthy. For for me,
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he's the key to the series. So I got Boston
and six, What do you got? I actually have Golden
State in six. I think experience wins out. I think
Golden State has matured enough and aware enough of themselves
as we we joked about how we were aware. We're
aware of ourselves and we play. Um. They know they
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have to win on the defensive end. They know they
can score, but they know we can't quite score like
we used to. We're we're good, but we're not real
we used to be. And we understand, Hey, we are
going to win with defense, and that is what they have.
And they shocked me. I honestly thought that Dallas was
gonna be able to win that series. Went out on
a limb and defensively they put on a clinic against
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the Mavericks and they are as good as it gets.
And when you get Gary Payton the second back, you
get even better defensively, and you get even more intriguing,
and you get options, and I think at the end
of the day, it comes down to depth. So I
don't think Golden States that same powerhouse. But I just
don't see the experience the game, behind the scenes, the
execution down the stretch. You think back Boston almost you
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know they tried to give a couple of games away.
You know they should have went for one against Milwaukee.
But they're still kind of figuring out what they are.
They played by committee, they defend they bought in, but
I don't think they can be consistent enough to beat
the Warriors, Uh for more than two games. I'm sorry. Well, look,
I hear you with the Warriors, and if this is
a championship, they're going to win again. I think Celtics
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are gonna win. This strikes me more of a hey,
we can we squeaked one out before the dynasty ended, right,
because you can tell that you know, Clay is not
the same guy and Steph is trying to stay the
same guy. You know, but the two of them, Draymond,
their thirty three, thirty four years old. I don't know
if it's gonna be the same Warriors team next year,
especially as teams get younger and hungrier, and and and
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and talent kind of rises up in the Western Conference.
So if they're gonna do it, I feel like, boy,
they they're able to squeeze one more out before they
have to worry about making changes, whether that's do we
go forward with Clay, do we make Jordan Pool a starter?
Does Clay become our six man? But in the end,
I I don't see them being able to to do
this over over six, Like if it was a short
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series maybe, But I think as you get past game two,
Game three, we see what's gonna happen to the Warriors.
What happened to Chris Paul last year? They started playing
too much basketball, got the point he hit the wall
and and I like Marcus Smart kind of a Drew
Holiday impact on the series here. So that's why I
like the Celtics. Man, how do you like that we're
on the other One of us is gonna be right,
that's the best part. One of us are gonna be
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right about it. You know, you're gonna look like a
genius if you're right. That's right, that's right. You're gonna
sing for the mountaintops. And I'll be the first guy
to call you up and go, hey, dude, you bought
you blew that? Man? It will be will be the
first over the last for me. I'll say, hey, you
know what, listen from now on doing the shows. I'm
gonna get Al Jefferson to do the show with me.
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they do apply well. I love this story because it
just won't go away, and it's such a fun story
that I want more on this every single day. And today, hey,
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we got a big wish. Uh. It was last week
when Tommy Fam of the Reds was suspended for three
games by Major League Baseball for slapping Jack Peterson before
a game. The video has come out. You see them
in the outfield and Fam slaps him. You know, Fam
has had a bit of a past and current currency
in Major League Baseball, and Jock Peterson explained after the
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game that night that it was over fantasy football and
it was about the injured reserve position in his fantasy
league that he moved a player who was out to
I R and Tommy Fam said, that's not our rules,
and that's kind of where the disagreement took off from. Also,
Jock Peterson sent out a gift everybody in the league
on a big main tech stream that showed Fams padres
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buckling under the weight of weightlift of lifting weights, kind
of correlating to their uh collapsing at the end of
last year after they started out so well. So fan
is not like Jock Peterson for a while, and the
fact that this continued to uh go on months and months,
some months after the end of the fantasy season, tells
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you how much he was looking forward to getting back
at Peterson. So we get the story and Jock Peterson
explains in great detail about the fantasy angle of this,
and then we're hearing from Jason lock and fora our
CBS Sports NFL Insider that a hundred thousand dollars was
at stake over this story, and Fam lost a chance
at a hundred thousand dollars because of this. He wound
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up quitting the league and they went on from there. Okay,
we thought the story was kind of over, but then
Tommy Fam talked yesterday and he said that the person
who's fault it is was the commissioner of the league,
Angel Superstar Mike Trout. That Trout could have solved this,
but he didn't, and he was a bad commissioner and
the commissioner. We nobody wanted to be commissioner the Fantasy
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Football League, so but Trout decided to do it. But
he could have fixed this and he didn't. Now, Fam
was kind of joking when he's saying this, but he
talked about how what a bad commissioner Mike Trout was. Uh.
And then today of course. Hey, well now we got
to talk to Mike Trout about this, and Mike Trout
is treating this like this is like a real big scandal,
and uh, I didn't really want to answer questions on it.
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Take a listen, said, ain't talking about I don't even know.
You know, it's just one of the thing that's uh,
you know, everybody's competitive. Everybody love fantasy football. We does. Yeah.
He went on to say about five times in the interview,
I'm not talking about this. I don't want to talk
it's fantasy football. Yollo, I'm not talking about this. I've
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not talking about this, big dog. I love the fact
that not only is this story about fantasy football, but
it the depths that it goes to about the I
R position and and the commissioner not taking care of this.
This is like the greatest story of the year. Like,
I don't need the NBA Finals. If we got something
new on this every day, I wouldn't need the Finals.
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I wouldn't need Steph, I wouldn't need Tatum, I wouldn't
need anything. I would just need a little bit on
this story every single day. Hey man, here's here's a
reality stuff like this hapens all the time in professional sports.
It's it's guys gambling, guys having dust steps behind the
scenes when you throw, whether it's any professional sport, the
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most the cream of the crop, the alpha of alpha's
you you put you know, thirty alpha's in the room,
and then one makes it out and then he goes
into another room of the next thirty. You're going from
high school to college to your professional team. These guys
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are gonna butt heads, They're gonna get into it, They're
gonna ruffle some feathers. It happens all the time. Now.
In this situation, the slapping was quite public. In fact,
there was video of it, so now it had to
be talked about. But having a dust stop or guys
getting into it with each other, it's very common. And
it sounds like not saying family is okay, sounds like
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Jack Peterson broke guy code. In fact, this was just code.
You don't cheat when there's money on the line, and Jason,
you're not how cheat me? And you are you know
what cheap we are. This could be a penny league,
there could be a hundred thousand pennies on the line,
and we're gonna take it personal. Now, We're not slapping anybody,
neither of us. We're not hurting to fly. But but listen,
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a hundred tho pennies, we're furious, dude. Here's the thing
is that I honestly think it's Mike Trout's fault. I
honestly do, right, because here's why, right, Here's why is that? Okay,
So fam is upset about the injured reserve spot on
FAT Like, do you play fantasy football? I do play? Okay,
So you know the whole deal is when a player
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is marked out, um, if they if you can move
them from out to injured reserve, you're allowed to do that,
and you can pick up a free agent without having
to waive anybody else. Right, So you can do that.
And apparently that was allowed on the app, on the
ESPN app they played on, which tells you shouldn't play
on the ESPN. Uh so that was allowed. Now fan
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went on to say, yes, we I know it was
allowed on the but we had decided you couldn't do that.
You couldn't take a player from out and put them
on i R unless they were injured reserve specific So
that's a bit of a thing where where Okay, here's
Jack Peterson wanted to do one thing, and Tommy Fam
is saying this. This is basically a he said, he
said thing. This is where if you are the commissioner,
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you step been tosolve this. You've step been dissolve this,
have been saying, Okay, well, here's the deal you and
and either it's hey, Tommy, I know you're piste, but
the the app allows us to do it, so we're
gonna do it. If you can put a guy from
out to I R, that's how we're gonna do it.
Then Tommy Fam can get all upset, but that's the deal,
or it's hey, Jock, I know you did that, but
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we did make a rule that said it's got to
be I R only you can't just be out, so
you can't move a guy to I R. And it's
and it's done right, And one person is upset, but
you're upset for five minutes and then you're done and
you're moving on right. All you need to do is
have the commissioner get involved. And the Angels weren't doing
anything in September last year, so Trout had all kinds
of time there. They were long, and himanated he had
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one job one job, lad job. That's all he had
to do. Bring this fantasy football league, am, It's all
he had to do, and just make a decision, right,
just make a decision and and say, hey, this is
how we're gonna go. So that's why I think it's
Mike Trout's fault. I mean, dude, I've been commissioned. I
used to be commissioners so many fantasy leagues, right, I
was commissioner of fantasy football, I commissioned fantasy hockey, fantasy golf, um.
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And I always like doing it, and so but I
got to the point in my life I'm like, Okay,
I like doing it for a while, like like ten
years or so. Now I'm not doing it anymore. And
now it's a lot easier because everything is done online. Right.
You don't have to worry about doing the scores yourself
or sending stuff. It's like everything is is kind of automatic,
and you just need to collect the money and just
in troubleshoot any issues that come up over the course
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of the year. Right, And normally the commissioner plays for
a little bit less money or you volunteer and you
and you do it right. So you know, because I'm
coming from it. From that perspective, I know how easy
that thing would have been dissolved. Okay, it's an email.
It's one email to everybody in the league. Hey, in
regards to this, Uh, we're gonna allow if if you're
allowed to do it on the site, you can do it,
or no, you can't do it. They have to be
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I R distinct. If I see it on your roster,
I'm gonna I'm gonna take them out. And it's done,
and it's solved, and it's done and you move on.
But Mike Trout clearly did absolutely nothing, probably doesn't want
to talk about it. So yeah, I think this is
on the commissioner's fault. This is Mike Trout's fault on this,
not You're right, you're right. And I've been commissioner before.
I don't like being commissioner for the zigxact reason. But
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you're playing with and here's the thing. People are going
these are millionaires. What's a hundred thousand dollars? It's the prince.
I've seen guys fight over five dollar bets in the
shooting game in the NBA. Okay, it's there. It's the principle,
you know, across the lights. Guy code, and yes, guy
code is different than the law. It just happens and
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it holds place in the locker room. But outside of
the locker room, guy code is irrelevant. But in the
locker room, gut code is real. Okay, you can't do it,
but you're right. The commissioner should have stepped in and
and said, hey, man, we okay stashing players so we
don't our personal opinions. Jason, I am sure you agree
with me. It's a cheap move. You can't do it.
You can't stash players. A guy's hurt. He's hurt. Now
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if he's not hurt, normally you can get little airb
message that comes up in your in your team and
says you gotta put him back in the pool. Okay,
he's available, you gotta you gotta figure somebody out. And
you know, Jack Peterson was trying to have the best
of both worlds now, he was trying to make his
dis choices later. So wait, what what were you? What
were you a commissioner of? Were you commissioner of a
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fantasy football league? When you play? Like, what were you
commissioner of? Yeah? Fantasy football? It was really after after
I played, I had more time, and like I never
wanted to be the commissioner. But like you know, like
it's enough of your buddies floating around or everybody asked
you you have a fantasy fantasy league, your fantas league,
and you're like, all right, we'll just make a league.
All right, there's like ten of us, So we'll just
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throw a league that you just ten people asking. All right,
I'll do it if you if you must. But it's
irritating because it's like ten o'clock at night. They want
to push a trade through, and you're like, dude, I'm
sitting here watching reruns. Okay, it's going to bed. You
want to push the trade through. No, you gotta watch
out for the foul play. And you know, I'm the
guy that purposely make sure like I draft last, and
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I let you know other people. You know, I don't
take advantage. I'm honest guy. Man, that's good. That's just
that's always good. I'll draft last. But you know, I mean,
you know people walking away going, hey, yeah, Hollands, you
we gotta trade. Yeah, he's not gonna get to it
till tomorrow. Man, he's maybe. Man, it's ten o'clock. He's done, man,
you can send him a text. He's gonna ghost you.
He's not gonna get back to you until tomorrow at least.
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So we'll put it through. Maybe maybe we'll get it
for tomorrow. Maybe we'll get it for next week. I
don't know. He's he's not even supposed to be here today.
Just just just whenever he puts it through, he puts
it through. So like, you know, like Kobe and Chris
Paul must have been really mad at you in these
fantasy leagues. You know, No, I played with regular people, Okay,
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a regular salary, you know, either free or very affordable. Okay,
I'm a twenty dollar league guy. Dude, all right, Harrington
and Zebo and those guys. I didn't say twenty million
and twenty alright. You know, you know you and Ronnie
turry Aff played on your league short Yeah, yeah, that's
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how I mean. You know, you know, Jason, how about
a fresca you know how we get down? You know
Tom Tilbert played in near league? Yeah no, sure, yeah, no,
I got I got it. I got it. So so
you so you so you did this and you just
did fantasy football for a while. Did you ever have
anything crazy to uh have to uh figure out like
this or no, no, no, nothing like this. No, I wouldn't,
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but I would step. I wouldn't let anybody get slapped,
you know, And then it's so atrocious when at a
certain point, Jason, I don't know if you have any
friends like this where they get to the point they're like, ye,
next time I see him, I'm slapping him. Like I
don't know if you had that or you heard I've
heard someone say that, next time I see him, IM
slapping him. You're like, what like and then you remained
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that mad and you do it. He's like, yeah, next
time I said, I'm slaping him and it and it happened.
I've heard guys say that. I mean, I haven't witnessed
this slapping. I've seen arguments and see stuff go down normally,
you know, cooler heads prevailed by that time, but hey man,
fam stayed. He stayed angry long enough to to follow through.
You know, I'm glad it wasn't and and I'll say
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this or I see this, I felt like it could
have been worse. You want to end it where it is.
You don't want things going on, But do you feel
like Jack Peterson knew he was wrong by allowing the slap.
I can't belieah, I can't believe he didn't. He didn't
slap him back. It was okay, but but you know,
you know what I mean, you know, I know he
didn't want to lose money and it probably cost it
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took him by surprise. Was it mature? Was it mature
of him though? Was it mature of him or was
it kind of like, dang, I know I did it. Yeah,
you're gonna accept that slap, all right, I'll take it.
I know I did it. Yeah, you're you're in between yours. Right.
Maybe maybe he walked up to fam and said, look,
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slap me. Okay, I know I did it. I did it.
I shouldn't have done this. I shouldn't have done it.
But that but to carry that with you for that long,
like I know people that have done that, Like I
know people that have taken fantasy beefs and and and
taking it all the way through, like where they don't
talk in the off season and when it comes back around,
you know a few months, like no, I'm not doing
that league with that guy. No, And it's like when
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you call him about it, like he was already on
the top of his mind, and he was just gonna
say it like every day he wakes up. I can't
stand that guy. He did this, He did this. He
did this. Now, I know guys that have had beefs
go for it for over the course of an off season.
That's happened. Yeah, and you know what, we're looking at
Fam for the slapping. But maybe this was a group call.
He cheated. Oh that scumbag. What's wrong with him? He's
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lost his marbles? That guy right there, boy Ida and
Fam steps up and goes, next time I see him,
I'm gonna slap him. And he did. Maybe he's a
man of the people in the locker room. Maybe that's
a man of the people. Maybe somebody's paying his fines.
That's that's It's a Jason serious. It's a quiet thing
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in the locker room. If you kind of like, let's
say you play with the star. Let's say like you
play it with Lebron or something. Right, Yeah, somebody touches Lebron.
You you go figure that out, all right, you go
jump in it. Now. The right thing to do is
Lebron plays that fine young fella. You go take care
of this for me, I'm gonna pay that fine. Don't
worry about then. I got you. That's kind of how
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those things go. Maybe someone is paying fans fine. They
wanted him Slop so bad. It was an inside job.
If they had him, they had money going on. I
was like, hey, I got this, like you gotta you
gotta make You're the first guy that's gonna see Peterson
in the year. Okay, you gotta talk to him. All right.
We're not gonna see him until he comes to town
in July. We're not gonna see him till September. You're
gonna see him early. You gotta make sure he knows
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and fantasy and kids. So you know, we're not condoning violence.
We're not saying it's okay. But things happen in the
walls of a locker room. Okay, they spilled out. Okay,
that's why sometimes things happen. They get a little out
in the locker room. It's locker room play, but it's
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Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with Ryan Hollins in
from Mike Harmon and Just really quick Who this brawl
that just happened between the Lightning and the Rangers the
end of Game one of the Eastern Conference Finals, Rangers
leading Tampa six to They're gonna win Game one. This
brawl was such a big deal. Even the refs were
down on the ice it was. It was a handsome
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brothers slapshot type Donnie brook or whatever you want to say.
It was. It was outstanding. Everybody was on the ice
fighting in this. This is like, this is like what
happens during games when Ryan Hollands doesn't pass to somebody
that this is this is kind of what happens at
the end of games. The refs aren't properly, properly equipped,
That's what I'm seeing. They were not properly equipped for that.
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I mean, while I got I got the tellen of
I looked up and what is happening hockey? Yeah, that's crazy.
I mean that that was That was a brawl. Now,
that was like, Okay, that's a brawl. That's like you
hear brawl and hockey nowty go or in basketball you go, oh,
that's not a brawl. That's like a minor disagreement about something. No,
that was a brawl. I have to ask one of
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my hockey friends. I know, Craig Ackerman, my play by
play guy, my guy in Houston. He actually plays a
lot of hockey. He said he's not a fighter, so
I couldn't get really into but it looked more tiring
to do punching than not. It is, well, the things
you can't really fight for very long and hockey because
it's it's it's really like it's first of all, it's
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tiring enough just to skate that when when you you're
going with a fight and you lose any sort of leverage,
like this is when the rev step in because you
could get hurt at that point. So the fight's never
really go very long. It's like, okay, here's a bit
of sweater. As long as everybody is standing up, it's okay.
But man, after like thirty seconds, it's like your muscle
just go to jelly. It's like I can't do it.
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I just can't do it. So you're more worried about falling, Yeah,
because if you fall, this is when a guy gets
on top, he starts hitting you and punching you. It's
it's hard. You gotta keep your balance, so you're trying
to fight while keeping your balance. That's why you see
so much tugging of the jerseys and stuff, because you're
trying to get the other person off balance so you
can win. Some guys going I just want to land
a haymaker, and some guys want to go and want
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to just win and be on top of a guy.
And get some shots and go, yeah, I just won.
So that's why you see all the pulling of the sweater. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah.
I mean I guess they're innocent. You can't really you know,
punch and you know, I guess you see disappointed you No, no,
I don't want to see anybody get hurt. But I
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was wondering, you know, I don't want to be that
guy because, like you know, I played in the NBA,
so everybody who you can't just make a free throw,
make a free throw, you know, like, just donke a basketball.
You're trolling enough, like you know, it's so easy, right,
Like there's not another seven foot guy in front of
me who has another forty Just don to basketball, Like
I want to be the guy like, oh, that punch
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didn't hurt that punch of the face didn't hurt her.
If I played beat everybody up there. I don't want
to be that guy. I want to you know, I
want to be knowledgeable. Dude. You know, you were from
the free throw line in your career. I think between
sixty five and sixty nine you were. Yeah, and in Memphis,
I was shooting career numbers. You go in my free
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throw numbers, and then I just had a nasty stretch
where I just missed a bunch. That was probably my
best year in Memphis. I was shooting so well. Good
Oh you had a good good year in Minnesota too,
was shooting so well in Memphis. I went to the
line for like a technical or something. Was that like
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the greatest Oh my god, make it technical. They looked around,
they looked at round was did you have that close
in your contract? Hey if I if I make a technical,
I get an extra hundred thousand dollars. Oh man, I
wish I wish there was I was that was that easy?
I think a lot of teamates would be. You know,
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you go a bit so for those who don't know,
NBA wise, whoever shooting the highest percentage goes to the
line for the technicals, all right, or sometimes just the
best player steps and he's like, I got it, you know,
But for the most part, the highest percentage goes And
it was me, congratulations. I was shooting like nine if
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you can. Whoever is the reference guy? I was shooting
like like for a while, and you know, we would
track it, you know, you randomly track things like that
NBA and on the board. Yeah, I was sleeping to
see nice. Well, look, I say, you know you're you're
you're shooting percent. You were pretty consistent. You had a
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couple of that. You had a couple of beat like
when you were at Boston, man, you you struggled at
the free throw? Did I start? I started off like
over three? But then with the Clippers you were seventy man,
you know there seventy percent with the Clippers played a
lot of minutes. When you get consistency, you fall in rhythm.
All right, So answer me this. And so we're back
to the brawls. Well, how can in the NBA, like
in hockey, you get the brawls, guys go one on one,
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they get righting on it. How can the NBA it's
guys get in and then they back off and they
and they're they're backing up, going come on, come on,
come on, come on. Guys don't really want to get
into it. Like they get into it for a second
and then they're backing up, backing up, like making people
chase them, like why can't they just stay in there?
Why can't they stay in on it? For one? You
can get really hurt because we don't have pads on
our helmets. That's first off. And for two, when there's
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like anarchy a bunch of people around, you don't want
to be in the middle of melee. You want to
have eyes on everybody. So that's why you back up.
I don't I don't know anybody that walks into a melee. Now,
maybe there's a guy you're targeting, um that you go after?
Was it? Uh? It was the kid Isaiah for from
the Pistons went after Lebron. You know he he knew
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what he wanted. Okay, But other than that, No, you
don't want to be in the middle of a melee
because it kind of had to be. Though you were
seven football, right, you kind of had no choice. I
gotta be in the middle of this. I can't not be. Okay,
here's my thing. I was always peacemaker. I would grab
someone on the other team that I felt like was
a threat and I pulled the mouth and say, hey,
it's not worth it. But I would be man, I
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would be like, no, it's not worth it. Like I
wasn't scared, but I'm like, hey, I'm part of the
solution here, you know. Twitter and out about a fresker
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Solution that should have been your nickname. Coming up, we
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I'll tell you Ryan, we made We almost made it, man.
You know the forty five day break between the conference
finals and the NBA Finals. We've made it. We're We're
on Game one finals. Eve. I think it's time to
get excited. Yeah, I mean it's about time. And you
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know what, we got the matchup we wanted. Did you
want to see the Heat? Oh? No, I want to
come on, man, really it had to be the Celtics
and the Warriors. Listen, we have all due respect for
what the Heat have done. They're grinders, they're hard workers.
It's an amazing story. But they play a very slow
style of basketball. I think this is a season they
can be extremely proud of. But you get more of
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a box office, more of a a match up with
Warriors and Curry versus the Celtics. Their tradition, you know,
is take them going to be the next name you got.
You got a little bit more star power with the Celtics.
With all due respect, we love what the Heat did,
but you know you got a little more to watch here. No, no,
I could say it. I mean real outside of Heat
fans who wanted to see the Heat. Right, you can
(01:49):
only make Jimmy Butler so much, Right, you can make
Jimmy Butler, Hey, Jimmy Butler is a great player. He'll
score forty one game, He'll score nine in the next game.
You can only make the Heat happen to a point, right,
and it's good as Luca is. Can you imagine it
will be all right, we're gonna talk about Luca for
the next like ten days and what he's got and
what he's got to improve. I mean, the NBA got
lucky because Warriors Celtics. That's kind of what you wanted
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if they had Mavericks and heat. Oh boy, this isn't
Lebron versus Dirk. You know we're not. We're not getting
that matchup again. So this was This was about as
good as the NBA could hope for, because I think
more people would watch you and me and Frostburg and Harmon,
you know, getting that because you know, because I know
what our offense is gonna be. It would be you
down low and the four of us hoisting up threes.
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That's all it would be. And you and you down low,
and as soon as you got the rebound, I'd be
the one clapping going back out, come on back out,
back out, back out, back out. That's what I would do.
Come on, back out, back out, come on, I got
another shot, come on back out to me. No chance
you would take care of you, Take care you big,
I get your wife. You're if you're open, I'm gonna
get you in the basketball. I don't worry. But just
just hit your open joppers for me? All right? Who
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is who is your teammate that would do that? All
the years you played? Who is the one guy that
every time you got the ball if you had a
rebound was all it's like, hey, back out to me?
Who was who was the guy that did that to you?
I mean, like like that verbally you would go back
out just so you knew wanted the ball back, like
right away, whether verbally or clapping, wanting the ball, and
who was that guy wanted it right back? So you're
saying like obnoxious a little bit or not? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
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yeah yeah, Like I was just right there like, oh,
rebound eight back out, back out, come on, back out,
come on, come on, come on home. You don't do
that in the NBA. It doesn't not like park ball.
And I'm thinking about this is not park ball. It's
it's almost it's like disrespectful. You can't do that. No, no, no, no,
it doesn't happen to the NBA. Even that happens. You're
like Kobe Bryant could get away with that. Kobe whoa
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eight plays off? Get me the basketball? And you had
to get Kobe the ball. Okay, that's not normally you know, happening.
Kobe can get away with it. Come on, Chris Paul
never did that to you. Come on, man, Chris Paul
never did that. Never, never did that. He give me
the ball back? Well, no, Chris is a great passer,
so you wanted to throw him the ball because he
get the ball back to you. You know he's gonna
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make the right play. So it's not in this sinse
that you're saying. Anybody who's ever played picked up basketball,
you know that guy who wants to score every point.
He may even airballed or you know, hit three in
a row. He's gonna be clapping for the ball. You know,
he doesn't want anybody else shooting. You know, he's not
the same in the NBA and not the same, not
not quite there. Come on, he checked, man, I need
to heat check. Give me the ball, give me the ball.
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I'm gonna do it. Is that's a type of ball
player you are that? Uh oh No, I would have
to I would have to actually get really hot to
be in a heat check. Okay, I would never get
that hot. You're if you're clapping, it's a reason, okay, yeah,
because some clappers don't need a reason to clap. They're
just clappers. Yeah. No, no, because because when I played,
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I wasn't one of these, because you know, I'm only
five nine. I couldn't get my own shot like I
had to be able to you know, catch and shoot
or be away for a defender where it was a
dribble and I could take a three, Like, there's no way.
I was like, you know, I wasn't doing the Kobe.
I got the ball and I'm gonna but you know,
a head butt you to push you back and then
laid back. And I was not doing that that. That
was not my game. I could not do that least
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you You know who you are. You know he said,
he check is a heat check. You know who you
are as a player, man. That's all I asked. Sometimes.
You know we gonna play pick up ball. You play.
Don't be somebody that you're not. Nobody likes the guy
who's somebody that he's not. You're You're right at any level.
That is a thing. That's why we say Kobe Bryant's
the guy who can clap and you don't get offended.
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You know, it's like, not get him the ball, that's Kobe. Yeah,
it's very anti my personality too, because you know me,
I'm kind of alph I want but on on the
basketball court, I was always, hey, I'm gonna stay in
my lane, right. I know what I do well and
I'm gonna do it, and I'm not gonna try to
do something that I can't do. Other sports I played
with playing football or hockey or softball. Oh yeah, man,
I tried to do it all. I could do this,
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I could do this. But basketball I always knew. And
that's why people like me being on their team. I
was always I was always a point guard or I
would play shooting guard to be a combo guard if
somebody else. When when we when we had teams going
because they knew that I would make good decisions with
the ball and I wouldn't try to do something I couldn't.
I picked my spots. Man. I was people with people
like playing with me. Man. I was really good. I
was like the Steph Curry of pickup guys in in
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the Greater Central New York area when I was at Syracuse. Wow. Yeah,
I mean I didn't make those three but people like
playing with me. That's what it was. You're likable, You're likable. Yeah, okay, okay, okay, yeah,
oh yeah, I was completely Oh yeah, yeah, I'll take Jason.
Yeah yeah, because you know, when I get in trouble,
here's a ball, I'm not turning it over. I'm gonna
get it to You're gonna do something, gonna work it out.
Football shirt, you were the shirt tackler and football. I
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remember a good memory by you, like do good. I
think that. I think that about you. You know, As
the NBA veteran, I kind of classify people with their
scouting report as soon as I meet them, Like I'm
kind of like what type of athletes are you? I
kind of size you up, and that's it's just a
natural thing. So like I'll I may forget a lot
(06:46):
of stuff. I won't forget a scouting report, you know.
I it's it's almost a curse, Like yeah, yeah, Jason Smith,
he's right handed. Um, you know if he's going left,
he's going left to pass. You know, he's got to
turn away j from the left block. Like, I know
you're scouting report. Once I see it, I know it.
Other things I may forget, all right, everything else I've forgotten. Well,
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that's kind of why you played in the NBA. As
long as you because you remembered stuff like that. Yeah,
because I got a feeling that there's a lot of
NBA players that don't, that don't remember scouting reports and
just got to go out and do my thing. Yeah,
and they didn't know. Like when I won my position,
you didn't. That's that was the difference between me and you.
I remember, I remember the plays and you didn't. Ye.
Like when I watch Russell Westbrook play defense, I okay,
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he has not looked at the scouting report. He's just
kind of standing waiting for the basketball. Russell Westbrook's not
a role player, man. He doesn't need the scouting report.
Role players needed. So is that what the coacher do? Say?
All right, and all the stars over here, all you
role players, We're gonna get to the scouting reports. Over
all you guys over here for film right now, superstars,
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go do whatever you want to do. Pretty much, if
the play got messed up. When I was right, I
was wrong, And when I was wrong, I was wrong.
And when you come to accept that, you can be
a veteran in the NBA. That's how you become a veteran.
You know, I was joking earlier about my guy I
played with Al Jefferson and Al Jefferson were running the
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triangle offense, and Al would he'd get on that left
block and his and his jump hook was unstoppable. And
I knew, no matter what side of the floor was on,
what play was running to, the whole team understood he
was our guy and whatever the play was, we were
gonna get him to where he wanted the basketball. It
didn't matter what the play was, You're gonna get him
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on that left block. So I would. I would know
even if I was the first guy down, I had
adjustin b second so he could get the ball. Zach
Randolph was the same, you know, Zach all he really
cared about We had all these all that cared about
get me the ball. He's a lefty, so he wanted
on the right block. Get him on the right block.
So I, okay, I'll take the other side. I'll know
the other played, get you where you need to go.
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Because when I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Okay, when I'm right,
I'm wrong, I knew it. Get him the ball. I'll
be ready on the other side. I'm digging. That's why
people like playing with you. Hey, listen, I can do
whatever I want Hollands, Will Hollands will make up for it.
It'll hey, all right, all right, So now let's let's
do this here now where we're getting as you said,
we're getting ready for the finals tomorrow. I made my
pick last night. I went Celtics and six. Uh. The
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youth of the Celtics, their defensive prowess. This is gonna
be one of those series where kind of like what
we saw with the Pistons and the Lakers in two
thousand four, when the Pistons surprised the Lakers, where the
Lakers look like they got old overnight in the NBA
Finals and the Pistons defense was was was right on there,
and Tayshaun Prince is writing Kobe's face the entire time.
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I kind of see a little bit um of a
lesser version of this, where as the as the series
goes on, Boston's youth is able to do what they
need to do defensively and make the Warriors look old.
Because you watched the Warriors had a lot of problems
earlier in the playoffs and that Memphis series. Now Memphis
was missing John Moran, which is a huge deal. You
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can't win in the playoffs without a superstar. But you know,
Clay had trouble getting his shots and so did Steph
and it wasn't quite the same thing. But they were
able to outlast because they were a better basketball team,
especially with with Memphis being without John Moran. I kind
of see that here. I think Boston's a little bit
too talented and I can see them slowing the Warriors down,
especially Marcus Smart as long as he's healthy. For for me,
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he's the key to the series. So I got Boston
and six, What do you got? I actually have Golden
State in six. I think experience wins out. I think
Golden State has matured enough and aware enough of themselves
as we we joked about how we were aware. We're
aware of ourselves and we play. Um. They know they
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have to win on the defensive end. They know they
can score, but they know we can't quite score like
we used to. We're we're good, but we're not real
we used to be. And we understand, Hey, we are
going to win with defense, and that is what they have.
And they shocked me. I honestly thought that Dallas was
gonna be able to win that series. Went out on
a limb and defensively they put on a clinic against
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the Mavericks and they are as good as it gets.
And when you get Gary Payton the second back, you
get even better defensively, and you get even more intriguing,
and you get options, and I think at the end
of the day, it comes down to depth. So I
don't think Golden States that same powerhouse. But I just
don't see the experience the game, behind the scenes, the
execution down the stretch. You think back Boston almost you
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know they tried to give a couple of games away.
You know they should have went for one against Milwaukee.
But they're still kind of figuring out what they are.
They played by committee, they defend they bought in, but
I don't think they can be consistent enough to beat
the Warriors, Uh for more than two games. I'm sorry. Well, look,
I hear you with the Warriors, and if this is
a championship, they're going to win again. I think Celtics
(11:48):
are gonna win. This strikes me more of a hey,
we can we squeaked one out before the dynasty ended, right,
because you can tell that you know, Clay is not
the same guy and Steph is trying to stay the
same guy. You know, but the two of them, Draymond,
their thirty three, thirty four years old. I don't know
if it's gonna be the same Warriors team next year,
especially as teams get younger and hungrier, and and and
(12:09):
and talent kind of rises up in the Western Conference.
So if they're gonna do it, I feel like, boy,
they they're able to squeeze one more out before they
have to worry about making changes, whether that's do we
go forward with Clay, do we make Jordan Pool a starter?
Does Clay become our six man? But in the end,
I I don't see them being able to to do
this over over six, Like if it was a short
(12:29):
series maybe, But I think as you get past game two,
Game three, we see what's gonna happen to the Warriors.
What happened to Chris Paul last year? They started playing
too much basketball, got the point he hit the wall
and and I like Marcus Smart kind of a Drew
Holiday impact on the series here. So that's why I
like the Celtics. Man, how do you like that we're
on the other One of us is gonna be right,
that's the best part. One of us are gonna be
(12:49):
right about it. You know, you're gonna look like a
genius if you're right. That's right, that's right. You're gonna
sing for the mountaintops. And I'll be the first guy
to call you up and go, hey, dude, you bought
you blew that? Man? It will be will be the
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they do apply well. I love this story because it
just won't go away, and it's such a fun story
that I want more on this every single day. And today, hey,
(13:57):
we got a big wish. Uh. It was last week
when Tommy Fam of the Reds was suspended for three
games by Major League Baseball for slapping Jack Peterson before
a game. The video has come out. You see them
in the outfield and Fam slaps him. You know, Fam
has had a bit of a past and current currency
in Major League Baseball, and Jock Peterson explained after the
(14:19):
game that night that it was over fantasy football and
it was about the injured reserve position in his fantasy
league that he moved a player who was out to
I R and Tommy Fam said, that's not our rules,
and that's kind of where the disagreement took off from. Also,
Jock Peterson sent out a gift everybody in the league
on a big main tech stream that showed Fams padres
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buckling under the weight of weightlift of lifting weights, kind
of correlating to their uh collapsing at the end of
last year after they started out so well. So fan
is not like Jock Peterson for a while, and the
fact that this continued to uh go on months and months,
some months after the end of the fantasy season, tells
(15:03):
you how much he was looking forward to getting back
at Peterson. So we get the story and Jock Peterson
explains in great detail about the fantasy angle of this,
and then we're hearing from Jason lock and fora our
CBS Sports NFL Insider that a hundred thousand dollars was
at stake over this story, and Fam lost a chance
at a hundred thousand dollars because of this. He wound
(15:23):
up quitting the league and they went on from there. Okay,
we thought the story was kind of over, but then
Tommy Fam talked yesterday and he said that the person
who's fault it is was the commissioner of the league,
Angel Superstar Mike Trout. That Trout could have solved this,
but he didn't, and he was a bad commissioner and
the commissioner. We nobody wanted to be commissioner the Fantasy
(15:46):
Football League, so but Trout decided to do it. But
he could have fixed this and he didn't. Now, Fam
was kind of joking when he's saying this, but he
talked about how what a bad commissioner Mike Trout was. Uh.
And then today of course. Hey, well now we got
to talk to Mike Trout about this, and Mike Trout
is treating this like this is like a real big scandal,
and uh, I didn't really want to answer questions on it.
(16:06):
Take a listen, said, ain't talking about I don't even know.
You know, it's just one of the thing that's uh,
you know, everybody's competitive. Everybody love fantasy football. We does. Yeah.
He went on to say about five times in the interview,
I'm not talking about this. I don't want to talk
it's fantasy football. Yollo, I'm not talking about this. I've
(16:27):
not talking about this, big dog. I love the fact
that not only is this story about fantasy football, but
it the depths that it goes to about the I
R position and and the commissioner not taking care of this.
This is like the greatest story of the year. Like,
I don't need the NBA Finals. If we got something
new on this every day, I wouldn't need the Finals.
(16:48):
I wouldn't need Steph, I wouldn't need Tatum, I wouldn't
need anything. I would just need a little bit on
this story every single day. Hey man, here's here's a
reality stuff like this hapens all the time in professional sports.
It's it's guys gambling, guys having dust steps behind the
scenes when you throw, whether it's any professional sport, the
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most the cream of the crop, the alpha of alpha's
you you put you know, thirty alpha's in the room,
and then one makes it out and then he goes
into another room of the next thirty. You're going from
high school to college to your professional team. These guys
(17:31):
are gonna butt heads, They're gonna get into it, They're
gonna ruffle some feathers. It happens all the time. Now.
In this situation, the slapping was quite public. In fact,
there was video of it, so now it had to
be talked about. But having a dust stop or guys
getting into it with each other, it's very common. And
it sounds like not saying family is okay, sounds like
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Jack Peterson broke guy code. In fact, this was just code.
You don't cheat when there's money on the line, and Jason,
you're not how cheat me? And you are you know
what cheap we are. This could be a penny league,
there could be a hundred thousand pennies on the line,
and we're gonna take it personal. Now, We're not slapping anybody,
neither of us. We're not hurting to fly. But but listen,
(18:15):
a hundred tho pennies, we're furious, dude. Here's the thing
is that I honestly think it's Mike Trout's fault. I
honestly do, right, because here's why, right, Here's why is that? Okay,
So fam is upset about the injured reserve spot on
FAT Like, do you play fantasy football? I do play? Okay,
So you know the whole deal is when a player
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is marked out, um, if they if you can move
them from out to injured reserve, you're allowed to do that,
and you can pick up a free agent without having
to waive anybody else. Right, So you can do that.
And apparently that was allowed on the app, on the
ESPN app they played on, which tells you shouldn't play
on the ESPN. Uh so that was allowed. Now fan
(18:57):
went on to say, yes, we I know it was
allowed on the but we had decided you couldn't do that.
You couldn't take a player from out and put them
on i R unless they were injured reserve specific So
that's a bit of a thing where where Okay, here's
Jack Peterson wanted to do one thing, and Tommy Fam
is saying this. This is basically a he said, he
said thing. This is where if you are the commissioner,
(19:18):
you step been tosolve this. You've step been dissolve this,
have been saying, Okay, well, here's the deal you and
and either it's hey, Tommy, I know you're piste, but
the the app allows us to do it, so we're
gonna do it. If you can put a guy from
out to I R, that's how we're gonna do it.
Then Tommy Fam can get all upset, but that's the deal,
or it's hey, Jock, I know you did that, but
(19:39):
we did make a rule that said it's got to
be I R only you can't just be out, so
you can't move a guy to I R. And it's
and it's done right, And one person is upset, but
you're upset for five minutes and then you're done and
you're moving on right. All you need to do is
have the commissioner get involved. And the Angels weren't doing
anything in September last year, so Trout had all kinds
of time there. They were long, and himanated he had
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one job one job, lad job. That's all he had
to do. Bring this fantasy football league, am, It's all
he had to do, and just make a decision, right,
just make a decision and and say, hey, this is
how we're gonna go. So that's why I think it's
Mike Trout's fault. I mean, dude, I've been commissioned. I
used to be commissioners so many fantasy leagues, right, I
was commissioner of fantasy football, I commissioned fantasy hockey, fantasy golf, um.
(20:25):
And I always like doing it, and so but I
got to the point in my life I'm like, Okay,
I like doing it for a while, like like ten
years or so. Now I'm not doing it anymore. And
now it's a lot easier because everything is done online. Right.
You don't have to worry about doing the scores yourself
or sending stuff. It's like everything is is kind of automatic,
and you just need to collect the money and just
in troubleshoot any issues that come up over the course
(20:47):
of the year. Right, And normally the commissioner plays for
a little bit less money or you volunteer and you
and you do it right. So you know, because I'm
coming from it. From that perspective, I know how easy
that thing would have been dissolved. Okay, it's an email.
It's one email to everybody in the league. Hey, in
regards to this, Uh, we're gonna allow if if you're
allowed to do it on the site, you can do it,
or no, you can't do it. They have to be
(21:08):
I R distinct. If I see it on your roster,
I'm gonna I'm gonna take them out. And it's done,
and it's solved, and it's done and you move on.
But Mike Trout clearly did absolutely nothing, probably doesn't want
to talk about it. So yeah, I think this is
on the commissioner's fault. This is Mike Trout's fault on this,
not You're right, you're right. And I've been commissioner before.
I don't like being commissioner for the zigxact reason. But
(21:30):
you're playing with and here's the thing. People are going
these are millionaires. What's a hundred thousand dollars? It's the prince.
I've seen guys fight over five dollar bets in the
shooting game in the NBA. Okay, it's there. It's the principle,
you know, across the lights. Guy code, and yes, guy
code is different than the law. It just happens and
(21:50):
it holds place in the locker room. But outside of
the locker room, guy code is irrelevant. But in the
locker room, gut code is real. Okay, you can't do it,
but you're right. The commissioner should have stepped in and
and said, hey, man, we okay stashing players so we
don't our personal opinions. Jason, I am sure you agree
with me. It's a cheap move. You can't do it.
You can't stash players. A guy's hurt. He's hurt. Now
(22:12):
if he's not hurt, normally you can get little airb
message that comes up in your in your team and
says you gotta put him back in the pool. Okay,
he's available, you gotta you gotta figure somebody out. And
you know, Jack Peterson was trying to have the best
of both worlds now, he was trying to make his
dis choices later. So wait, what what were you? What
were you a commissioner of? Were you commissioner of a
(22:34):
fantasy football league? When you play? Like, what were you
commissioner of? Yeah? Fantasy football? It was really after after
I played, I had more time, and like I never
wanted to be the commissioner. But like you know, like
it's enough of your buddies floating around or everybody asked
you you have a fantasy fantasy league, your fantas league,
and you're like, all right, we'll just make a league.
All right, there's like ten of us, So we'll just
(22:54):
throw a league that you just ten people asking. All right,
I'll do it if you if you must. But it's
irritating because it's like ten o'clock at night. They want
to push a trade through, and you're like, dude, I'm
sitting here watching reruns. Okay, it's going to bed. You
want to push the trade through. No, you gotta watch
out for the foul play. And you know, I'm the
guy that purposely make sure like I draft last, and
(23:16):
I let you know other people. You know, I don't
take advantage. I'm honest guy. Man, that's good. That's just
that's always good. I'll draft last. But you know, I mean,
you know people walking away going, hey, yeah, Hollands, you
we gotta trade. Yeah, he's not gonna get to it
till tomorrow. Man, he's maybe. Man, it's ten o'clock. He's done, man,
you can send him a text. He's gonna ghost you.
He's not gonna get back to you until tomorrow at least.
(23:38):
So we'll put it through. Maybe maybe we'll get it
for tomorrow. Maybe we'll get it for next week. I
don't know. He's he's not even supposed to be here today.
Just just just whenever he puts it through, he puts
it through. So like, you know, like Kobe and Chris
Paul must have been really mad at you in these
fantasy leagues. You know, No, I played with regular people, Okay,
(24:00):
a regular salary, you know, either free or very affordable. Okay,
I'm a twenty dollar league guy. Dude, all right, Harrington
and Zebo and those guys. I didn't say twenty million
and twenty alright. You know, you know you and Ronnie
turry Aff played on your league short Yeah, yeah, that's
(24:20):
how I mean. You know, you know, Jason, how about
a fresca you know how we get down? You know
Tom Tilbert played in near league? Yeah no, sure, yeah, no,
I got I got it. I got it. So so
you so you so you did this and you just
did fantasy football for a while. Did you ever have
anything crazy to uh have to uh figure out like
this or no, no, no, nothing like this. No, I wouldn't,
(24:41):
but I would step. I wouldn't let anybody get slapped,
you know, And then it's so atrocious when at a
certain point, Jason, I don't know if you have any
friends like this where they get to the point they're like, ye,
next time I see him, I'm slapping him. Like I
don't know if you had that or you heard I've
heard someone say that, next time I see him, IM
slapping him. You're like, what like and then you remained
(25:03):
that mad and you do it. He's like, yeah, next
time I said, I'm slaping him and it and it happened.
I've heard guys say that. I mean, I haven't witnessed
this slapping. I've seen arguments and see stuff go down normally,
you know, cooler heads prevailed by that time, but hey man,
fam stayed. He stayed angry long enough to to follow through.
You know, I'm glad it wasn't and and I'll say
(25:25):
this or I see this, I felt like it could
have been worse. You want to end it where it is.
You don't want things going on, But do you feel
like Jack Peterson knew he was wrong by allowing the slap.
I can't belieah, I can't believe he didn't. He didn't
slap him back. It was okay, but but you know,
you know what I mean, you know, I know he
didn't want to lose money and it probably cost it
(25:45):
took him by surprise. Was it mature? Was it mature
of him though? Was it mature of him or was
it kind of like, dang, I know I did it. Yeah,
you're gonna accept that slap, all right, I'll take it.
I know I did it. Yeah, you're you're in between yours. Right.
Maybe maybe he walked up to fam and said, look,
(26:05):
slap me. Okay, I know I did it. I did it.
I shouldn't have done this. I shouldn't have done it.
But that but to carry that with you for that long,
like I know people that have done that, Like I
know people that have taken fantasy beefs and and and
taking it all the way through, like where they don't
talk in the off season and when it comes back around,
you know a few months, like no, I'm not doing
that league with that guy. No, And it's like when
(26:26):
you call him about it, like he was already on
the top of his mind, and he was just gonna
say it like every day he wakes up. I can't
stand that guy. He did this, He did this. He
did this. Now, I know guys that have had beefs
go for it for over the course of an off season.
That's happened. Yeah, and you know what, we're looking at
Fam for the slapping. But maybe this was a group call.
He cheated. Oh that scumbag. What's wrong with him? He's
(26:50):
lost his marbles? That guy right there, boy Ida and
Fam steps up and goes, next time I see him,
I'm gonna slap him. And he did. Maybe he's a
man of the people in the locker room. Maybe that's
a man of the people. Maybe somebody's paying his fines.
That's that's It's a Jason serious. It's a quiet thing
(27:13):
in the locker room. If you kind of like, let's
say you play with the star. Let's say like you
play it with Lebron or something. Right, Yeah, somebody touches Lebron.
You you go figure that out, all right, you go
jump in it. Now. The right thing to do is
Lebron plays that fine young fella. You go take care
of this for me, I'm gonna pay that fine. Don't
worry about then. I got you. That's kind of how
(27:36):
those things go. Maybe someone is paying fans fine. They
wanted him Slop so bad. It was an inside job.
If they had him, they had money going on. I
was like, hey, I got this, like you gotta you
gotta make You're the first guy that's gonna see Peterson
in the year. Okay, you gotta talk to him. All right.
We're not gonna see him until he comes to town
in July. We're not gonna see him till September. You're
gonna see him early. You gotta make sure he knows
(27:58):
he did the wrong thing with the I r ps
and fantasy and kids. So you know, we're not condoning violence.
We're not saying it's okay. But things happen in the
walls of a locker room. Okay, they spilled out. Okay,
that's why sometimes things happen. They get a little out
in the locker room. It's locker room play, but it's
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Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with Ryan Hollins in
from Mike Harmon and Just really quick Who this brawl
that just happened between the Lightning and the Rangers the
end of Game one of the Eastern Conference Finals, Rangers
leading Tampa six to They're gonna win Game one. This
brawl was such a big deal. Even the refs were
down on the ice it was. It was a handsome
(29:29):
brothers slapshot type Donnie brook or whatever you want to say.
It was. It was outstanding. Everybody was on the ice
fighting in this. This is like, this is like what
happens during games when Ryan Hollands doesn't pass to somebody
that this is this is kind of what happens at
the end of games. The refs aren't properly, properly equipped,
That's what I'm seeing. They were not properly equipped for that.
(29:51):
I mean, while I got I got the tellen of
I looked up and what is happening hockey? Yeah, that's crazy.
I mean that that was That was a brawl. Now,
that was like, Okay, that's a brawl. That's like you
hear brawl and hockey nowty go or in basketball you go, oh,
that's not a brawl. That's like a minor disagreement about something. No,
that was a brawl. I have to ask one of
(30:11):
my hockey friends. I know, Craig Ackerman, my play by
play guy, my guy in Houston. He actually plays a
lot of hockey. He said he's not a fighter, so
I couldn't get really into but it looked more tiring
to do punching than not. It is, well, the things
you can't really fight for very long and hockey because
it's it's it's really like it's first of all, it's
(30:31):
tiring enough just to skate that when when you you're
going with a fight and you lose any sort of leverage,
like this is when the rev step in because you
could get hurt at that point. So the fight's never
really go very long. It's like, okay, here's a bit
of sweater. As long as everybody is standing up, it's okay.
But man, after like thirty seconds, it's like your muscle
just go to jelly. It's like I can't do it.
(30:53):
I just can't do it. So you're more worried about falling, Yeah,
because if you fall, this is when a guy gets
on top, he starts hitting you and punching you. It's
it's hard. You gotta keep your balance, so you're trying
to fight while keeping your balance. That's why you see
so much tugging of the jerseys and stuff, because you're
trying to get the other person off balance so you
can win. Some guys going I just want to land
a haymaker, and some guys want to go and want
(31:15):
to just win and be on top of a guy.
And get some shots and go, yeah, I just won.
So that's why you see all the pulling of the sweater. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah.
I mean I guess they're innocent. You can't really you know,
punch and you know, I guess you see disappointed you No, no,
I don't want to see anybody get hurt. But I
(31:35):
was wondering, you know, I don't want to be that
guy because, like you know, I played in the NBA,
so everybody who you can't just make a free throw,
make a free throw, you know, like, just donke a basketball.
You're trolling enough, like you know, it's so easy, right,
Like there's not another seven foot guy in front of
me who has another forty Just don to basketball, Like
I want to be the guy like, oh, that punch
(31:56):
didn't hurt that punch of the face didn't hurt her.
If I played beat everybody up there. I don't want
to be that guy. I want to you know, I
want to be knowledgeable. Dude. You know, you were from
the free throw line in your career. I think between
sixty five and sixty nine you were. Yeah, and in Memphis,
I was shooting career numbers. You go in my free
(32:17):
throw numbers, and then I just had a nasty stretch
where I just missed a bunch. That was probably my
best year in Memphis. I was shooting so well. Good
Oh you had a good good year in Minnesota too,
was shooting so well in Memphis. I went to the
line for like a technical or something. Was that like
(32:38):
the greatest Oh my god, make it technical. They looked around,
they looked at round was did you have that close
in your contract? Hey if I if I make a technical,
I get an extra hundred thousand dollars. Oh man, I
wish I wish there was I was that was that easy?
I think a lot of teamates would be. You know,
(32:59):
you go a bit so for those who don't know,
NBA wise, whoever shooting the highest percentage goes to the
line for the technicals, all right, or sometimes just the
best player steps and he's like, I got it, you know,
But for the most part, the highest percentage goes And
it was me, congratulations. I was shooting like nine if
(33:22):
you can. Whoever is the reference guy? I was shooting
like like for a while, and you know, we would
track it, you know, you randomly track things like that
NBA and on the board. Yeah, I was sleeping to
see nice. Well, look, I say, you know you're you're
you're shooting percent. You were pretty consistent. You had a
(33:43):
couple of that. You had a couple of beat like
when you were at Boston, man, you you struggled at
the free throw? Did I start? I started off like
over three? But then with the Clippers you were seventy man,
you know there seventy percent with the Clippers played a
lot of minutes. When you get consistency, you fall in rhythm.
All right, So answer me this. And so we're back
to the brawls. Well, how can in the NBA, like
in hockey, you get the brawls, guys go one on one,
(34:05):
they get righting on it. How can the NBA it's
guys get in and then they back off and they
and they're they're backing up, going come on, come on,
come on, come on. Guys don't really want to get
into it. Like they get into it for a second
and then they're backing up, backing up, like making people
chase them, like why can't they just stay in there?
Why can't they stay in on it? For one? You
can get really hurt because we don't have pads on
our helmets. That's first off. And for two, when there's
(34:29):
like anarchy a bunch of people around, you don't want
to be in the middle of melee. You want to
have eyes on everybody. So that's why you back up.
I don't I don't know anybody that walks into a melee. Now,
maybe there's a guy you're targeting, um that you go after?
Was it? Uh? It was the kid Isaiah for from
the Pistons went after Lebron. You know he he knew
(34:51):
what he wanted. Okay, But other than that, No, you
don't want to be in the middle of a melee
because it kind of had to be. Though you were
seven football, right, you kind of had no choice. I
gotta be in the middle of this. I can't not be. Okay,
here's my thing. I was always peacemaker. I would grab
someone on the other team that I felt like was
a threat and I pulled the mouth and say, hey,
it's not worth it. But I would be man, I
(35:12):
would be like, no, it's not worth it. Like I
wasn't scared, but I'm like, hey, I'm part of the
solution here, you know. Twitter and out about a fresker
Ryan at the Ryan Hollands. That's your nickname, The Big
Solution that should have been your nickname. Coming up, we
got two more big stories out of the NBA, one
involved in the Lakers, one involved in Steph Curry. Keep
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