July 16, 2022 • 24 mins
Jason Smith and Steve DeSaegher welcome you into a huge sports day today! Tiger Woods misses the cut at The Open and gets emotional on what could be his final walk ever at St. Andrews. The Texans settle with 30 women who have accused Deshaun Watson and Jason and Steve give their reactions on that. Plus, FSR Legal Insider Amy Dash joins the guys to discuss the Watson situation and more from the NFL!
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Happy Friday. The Jason Smith Show is Steve de Sager
in for a definitively inebriated Mike Harmon Hobo seven o'clock
on a Friday. You know you don't know Harmon like
I know Harmon. Big day in the National Football League
today when it comes to Shaun Watson, as the Houston
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Texans have settled the claims of thirty women in relation
to the sexual misconduct allegations involving their former quarterback. One
of the thirty women already file a civil suit against
the Texas in June, accusing the team of enabling Watson's behavior.
Uh Tony Buzby, says the attorney for the women. All
the the victims ledged victims in this story. Uh say
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that the case is among those being settled. So thirty
women have now reached settlements with the camp of Deshaun
Watson as far as the Texans liability with what went
on in and outside of the organization, joining us now
on the hot line to break it all down. We're
gonna spend a few minutes on this, and we're gonna
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spend a few minutes on Donovan Mitchell to the NIXT.
It is Odyssey Sports, CBS, Sports, Fox, Sports Radio, Legal
insider Amy Dash. You can follow on Twitter at Amy
Dash TV. That's at Amy Dash TV. What's happened to name? Hi?
How are you doing? Is that? Yes? It is. I'm
so happy to be back. I feel like I'm staging.
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I'd come back right now. Like this reminds me of
when I was little. I used to go to the
w w E. It was when I was younger of
us called the w WS before that lawsuit, and everybody
had an entrance song. So I feel like this is
my debut. Yeah, we we give walk up music. It's
it's it's your version of walk up music, if you exactly.
I just need a I need a stage name and
I need a costume. Well yeah, but possibly a sidekick. Okay,
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all right, that's like being a superhero. I need a
sidekick and need a costume when you keep well, this
is what happens. Remember they all have like a manager. Well,
you gotta get your own classy Freddy blessing, right, okay,
all right? Now? Is how is that means that good
walk up music for you? Are okay? With the l
A Law theme? I think it's okay. I feel like
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I need to have like a daunting manager. Beside, maybe
he's really like no nonsense. You know, you want to
get a little bit more hardcore. You want like Mr
Fuji with the cane when he would trip people as
they would run by. Okay, all right, that's good for Hayman,
you know, Okay, not Jimmy Hart with a megaphone yelling around.
I got a das the best I think I would
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take him. Actually a yes, I was definitely well you
have a bit you You posted this up in your
website League of Justice dot com a couple of weeks ago.
I remember reading you had said that this was likely
going to be the outcome with the women settling the
claims against the Houston Texans who were involved in this
a couple of months ago when it was found that
they helped to facilitate to Shaun Watson getting massages away
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from the team. Uh So this just this did not surprise.
You would all say that this was the outcome, Yeah,
because you know, they're they're really up against a wall
here where it's just been such a nightmare situation for
this franchise. I mean, the quarterback is really the face
of the franchise, so to have to go through all this,
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and I remember in the way beginning, everybody was talking
about conspiracy rumors, Oh was the team and on it
because he had asked for a trade. But if you
think about everything they went through, having to sit him
for so long and just such a bad publicity and
being harassed at the press conferences, I mean, they're just,
I think, so happy to get this behind them. And
I thought it was really interesting that the McNair's, you know,
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signed the statement that they released today saying that the
settlements were not an admission of wrongdoing, but a clear
stand against sexual assault and misconduct of any kind. And
they signed it with kil McNair's wife and daughter. Their
names were before his. So I feel like possibly some
of the females with the new organization had a hand
in it, and it was just there was no other option.
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I mean, what are they going to do go through
court battles with potentially thirty women. It's expensive. They can
afford to pay it off and just make it go away. Amy,
This is Steve the part of the team statement that
you just referenced the clear stand. To me, the clear
stand was we are not going to be mired in
this like he struck so many others through the mire.
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Because this case is going on forever. There's not even
NFL discipline yet from this case. They just wanted out right. Yeah.
And I think also there's an element too of you know,
there was there was strong evidence. It's not like there
was no evidence against the team. Now, doesn't mean that
the ownership knew anything about what was going on. I
doubt they were sitting I mean, you know, who knows.
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Maybe it's possible. I doubt though cal McNair sitting there going,
oh yeah, Deshaun Watson is out getting massages in the
Houstonian Hotel. Let's provide him with the hotel membership, Let's
get him the table. Let's make this easy for him.
So he can randomly reach out to sixty or more
Instagram people who many of them don't even have massage
therapy licenses. So I don't think there was that level
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of involvement. But you know, there was a security employee
who was probably more involved than he should have been
with giving an n d A. That's the allegation at least. So.
And then there was an entity that was contracted by
the Texans that had complaints on record about some of
these activities, and the organization, by all accounts, at least
in stepping and stop it. So I think there is
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some responsibility being taken, not saying that they had knowledge
of it, but saying, okay, you know, if we were
to go to court and have to fight this, there
could be some responsibility, just as uh the employers of
employees who may have been more involved than they should have.
Amy does this have any bearing on how the NFL
will conduct their investigation to the Texans, because obviously they're
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they're looking into the four cases that are still there.
They're waiting to make their decisions still be a ways away.
How much does this affect what the NFL is doing.
You know, there's a lot of mixed feelings on that
some people are saying, and actually some people are reporting
that the NFL has already been investigating the claims against
the Texans. Um I do. I just don't see how
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the Texans settle with thirty women and the NFL doesn't
discipline the club at all for its role active or
not direct or not knowing or not in in, you know,
failing to supervise what was going on with Deshaun Watson.
And it doesn't necessarily mean den Watson was doing exactly
what he was accused of, but things were going on
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that obviously ended up being detrimental to the team and
the lead, and that in of itself is punishable. When
the team says, this is our clear stand against any
form of sexual assault and misconduct, are they saying they're
siding with the women that they're settling with. That seems
a little odd. It sounds to me like there is
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some sort of an acknowledgment within that statement that things
went on that shouldn't have gone on. Now doesn't mean
that Deshaun Watson sexually assaulted any of these women. Are
all of these women? I don't think so, But I
think there's sort of that sigh of like the disappointed
parent that knows that their child not the best child. Oh,
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you know, the honor roles students that they thought their
child would be your hope their child would be and
something went on to disappoint them, where their expectations, you know,
didn't match the reality of the situation. So I think
that they are bearing responsibility. Yeah. Do you think this
statement then is easier for the Texans to make today
because he's not with the Texans anymore. Yeah, exactly. I
think it's an ad mention of all guy. You know,
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this guy was really a train wreck for this organization.
Whether he did it what he's accused him or not.
This is just a horrible situation on a horrible look
because of the number of accusers from the number of
people that he reached out to, and this conduct is
just not normal. I would have loved to have seen
that sentence in today's statement. This guy was a train
wreck for our organization. It's gonna tell you that. Legal
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landlist Damie Dash with us here Fox Sports Radio, Jason Smith,
Steave Disagarin for Mike Carmon a right not to widen
this out a little bit bigger Waiting for the final
discipline call on DeShawn Watson. UH Disciplinary Officer Sue Robinson,
jointly appointed by the NFL the NFL p A currently
deciding whether Watson violated the NFL's personal conduct policy. Does
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today's evidence is it? Does today's story have any effect
as far as that goes, and what she's weighing for Watson?
I don't think so. Um. I think the real question
is how neutral is this arbitrator and and how much
final phase the arbitrator have, you know, I think the
prevailing thought is that if there's no discipline, the NFL
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can't protest that. But if there is discipline and they
don't like the amount of discipline, either Watson or the
NFL can appeal it, and then the NFL can step
in and completely change it to what they want anyway.
So that's kind of an odd thing because you're claiming
independence and there's going to be at least a final
decision on the facts of the situation. But then it
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seems that anything short of no discipline, or anything more
of than no discipline, I should say, they can just
come in and do whatever they want anyway. So it's
just it's a weird new process where they're trying to
give the appearance of being more fair, but I don't
not necessarily know that it's going to play out that way.
So I'm curious to see whether she really makes a
well reasoned and thought out decision that seems at least
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somewhat fair. Be sure to catch live editions of The
Jason Smith Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm
Eastern seven pm Pacific. I have heard people in this
case has gone on for a while, and as we
said earlier, there no NFL discipline coming yet, and who
cares The judge probably could care less. The training camps
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are opening soon. But I have people heard people on
the outside on the air say, Hey, a couple of
grand Juries in Texas haven't indicted Watson. Does that mean anything?
Did they examine all the cases, even a majority of
the cases? Should we draw conclusions from that? Well, it depends,
because there's been some rumors that not all of the
evidence may have been presented to the grand Juries. There
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are a lot of women that were sitting outside of
the room waiting to go and to testify, and I
believe only one may have been called. The police investigators
said that she was not called to speak before the
grand jury. I don't know if that's entirely accurate, but
if so, that's really strange because she is recorded in
a deposition the leading investigators saying that the police were
of one mind that Deshaun Watson in their in their
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opinion at least had committed crimes in all ten cases.
So it is suspect. But what it says to me
is if everything was above board and that there was
a problem with the evidence that was presented to the
grand jury, and so there may have been some contradictory
evidence or some evidence that cast out on the credibility
of some of the accusers. But what I will say
is that those are ten people you're talking about now
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potentially thirty accusers. Remember now with the news today, we
know that there's thirty women accusing. Before this morning, we
thought it was twenty four accusers. Now there could be
six more claims that come out against Deshaun Watson. We
don't know, but you're talking about twenty additional claims that
the NFL is examining that may not have problems with
the evidence, And so I would guess that there's going
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to be at least a couple where there's a higher
likelihood that not that something may have happened there, because
that's the standard. It's not prooved beyond a reasonable doubt
like in a criminal court case. It is there more
than fifty percent chance that he did what he's accused of,
and if there's evidence to support that, the judge could
find that, whether it's true or not. So amy with
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putting all of this together now, maybe a couple more
weeks or maybe a month before we get the answer
onto Shawn buson what do you expect the arbitrator's decision
to be? Uh, you know, I think she's going to
take it on a case by case basis. And I
think if the NFL is only asking for discipline in
a couple of cases, which is what the rumors are
that that they only brought forth the cases they felt
were the strongest and supported by actual evidence that something
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happened that was at least conduct detrimental to the league,
I think she's going to issue a suspension for a
couple of cases. Each case is six games, so I
think you could be looking at at least half the season,
maybe even a full season. Um And then of course
there's a possibility if she issues less than a full season,
the NFL can appeal and just give him a full
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season anyway. So I think definitely it's going to be um,
you know, I think more than six games for sure.
Her website is League of Justice dot com, Odyssey Sports, CBS,
Sports Radio, Fox Sports Radio official legal insider Amy Dash,
who gave us a seal of approval on her entrance music.
So so, now, uh, if I go on League Justice,
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can I get anything on Donovan Mitchell to the next?
Do you have anything on that you writing about that
as well? Oh my goodness. Well, I'm still reeling over
the what happened at the draft. I'm still very confused
by it. I ended up going to sleep because I
was so frustrated. You can't, you know, you can't, you can't.
Trying to figure out the knicks is sometimes it's it's fruitless.
What's going on? So? Are we building a team that's
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going to be possibly good in the next five to
ten years if everything goes right like or are we
trying to get good players now? I'm just really confused
because every day it changes, and just the idea of
building a team for the future. All I need to
do is think about what happened with the Nets, and
I have zero faith in that approach. Well you picked
me right up there on a Friday night. Ay, thanks
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so much. I really I was excited to talk smack,
Donovan Mitchell and Jalen Brunson. What a backcourt they're gonna
wind up being. And well, I don't know. I'm still
not over the draft. So even if they were again him,
do you think that with Jalen Brentson then he's going
to really perform or is it going to be another
Randall situation? Oh no, no, no, I think that you
had a pretty good backcourt. It's an undersized backcourt, but
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these guys are good players. And Donovan Mitchell's a star.
It's been a long time since the Knicks out of star.
Julius Randold's not a star. They thought he was one.
They paid them like one. And I was happy and
gonna say happy things about the Knicks to me. You know,
there's just a lot of people were waived. The team's
gonna look totally different, And my concerns always the chemistry.
I just feel that you need the same chemistry. You
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don't necessarily need star players, but you need the same
chemistry that you had in the nineties, where everybody was
really gritty and they were there to win, and they
were there to work as a team. And I think
that's what the Knicks have been missing. I mean, especially
with like Carmelo Anthony and all these people that have
come through who have tried to like take the ball
and just hog the ball and completely you know, mess
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over the team and the team's prospects. That winning a championship,
that's what New Yorkers want. They just want a championship
amy right now, of course, just championship after championship, you
can win five in a row and it's gonna be
We didn't win last year, but before that in New York.
There's no proper more competitive place than New York. I
know your softball team wants to win championship after changing
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tough team, Yes, exactly. I'm trying to bring some toughness
to my softball team. Last year, I had a little
bit of a better mix of people. I'm going to
have to be honest, you know, there's a lot of beginners.
It can get a little bit frustrating. But the upside
to that is I'm getting a lot of action in
the infield, and I get to be the leadoff hitter.
The thing that is going. Okay, make some trades, if
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you need to make some trades. Oh, I've already tried.
So we've got the mayor. You know, the mayor's part
of the league. So I needed to up with the
mayor and he gets very you know, I think he
threatened the Okay, you're not getting your trash picked up
my picture if you if you smack talk, you're not
going to get your trash picked up next week. And
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there was a big fight between a picture and the mayor.
So I said, listen, we've got no one, um Like,
we've got no one in the outfield, because all we
throw all the beginners in the outfield. We have a
strong infield, but we've got no backup pitch. Sure, so
she gets tired and very heated, and then we've got
no one to catch a ball in the outfield. And
you're putting up against these people who have you know,
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strong big girls that are hitting it really far out
there into the outfield. So that's our problem. So I've
already tried to negotiate some trades. It's not going so well,
but I'm going to keep at it. Well, good luck.
Let me know and and uh, you know, if you
need help with the salary cap, I can help navigate
that for you as well. I just want trophies. Can
you be we were undefeated last year, we didn't even
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get a trophy. Ah, well, good luck. We will talk soon.
And remember, I guess that's my I'm being sung off.
I thought you've got you going to the batting cages. Now,
I thought you got to gotta get a late night
batting cage session in. Yeah, I gotta go meet up
with the bush whackers. I'll see you guys later. Any
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there you go, boy, I'm not gonna pick up your trash. Okay,
all right. I learned two things for this. Aside from
all the good NFL it is, it's had another Nicks
fan who's not convinced they're trying to get good players.
Second they pick up the trash in New York, they'll
get there. They'll get there. I'll tell you her team's
got more drama than the Mets. So maybe it's because
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they're in New York. Be sure to catch live editions
of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at
ten pm Eastern seven pm Pacific Fox Sports Radio. That
Jason Smith Show was Steve de Sager in from Mike
Harmon tonight. Well, there you go. See Harmon is still
there even when you think he's not. Oh, getting closer
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and closer to the All Star Game in Major League
Baseball and the Peter Alonso Show, the Home Run Derby.
Today we found out that legend and Hall of Famer
Derek Jeter well eventually want back into baseball. Remember Jeter left,
uh the Miami Marlins organization in February, saying that it
was time from the step aside because they kind of
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weren't on the same page. That was change going on
with the Marlins and he wasn't on board with it.
Things were going so well, Oh it was great. Are
you kidding? The Marlins had won four straight in at
least titles or not. I'm sorry, Oh that was last place.
Sorry I had to I I clicked on the wrong
button when you can say when you can invert the divisions,
because I usually do that for the Mets. Uh they
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had him on top there on the bottom. Uh, Jeter
stepping down as CEO of the Marlins didn't interview with
the ESPN S Hannah Storm ahead of his the premiere
of his seven part ESPN documents. It's only seven I
thought it was seventy seven parts. They're gonna run this
the same time as Ken Burns's Baseball and see what
ends first. I think they're actually hoping for another coronavirus shutdown.
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So like the documentary, they could just run it every day.
It will be the only thing to get some ratings.
Take that back, Take that back, keep thinking speaking at it,
speaking things in the universe might actually make them occur.
I don't think it works that way, all right, No
one is hoping for an other. But the interview that
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Hannah Storm did with Derek Jeter, she asked, look, it's
a again, it's a seventy five part it's a seven
part series on his career. She asked him if he
would be back into baseball at some point, and his
answer was quote, I love the game. I really do
love the game. I mean, I hope he would. Baseball's
his whole life. I think it's the greatest game in
the world. So yeah, at some point, I'm sure I'll
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do something. Now, let's just stop for one second here.
Derek Jeter All Star Hall of Fame shortstop for the Yankees.
No one's gonna tell him no on anything. Derek Jeter
front office member running a baseball team. Who is going
to give him that job Again? When he says doing
something in baseball, he's got to mean something not involving
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running a team, because in the time he took over,
they were a hundred games under five hundred over all.
The Marlins. Yes, in the COVID year they made the playoffs,
back when twelve teams made the playoffs. But basically, Jeter
is gonna be known for trading away a trio of
great players who continued to be stars now in Major
League Baseball. Stanton Yellow, Jozuna, all guys they left. They
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cut bait On, especially Yellow, who turned into an m
v P player when they didn't really have to trade
Christian Yellois didn't have to, he was under team control
and everything was fine. And now Derek Jeter is leaving.
His legacy is he traded away the stars. He helped
out his old team. Honestly, I'm telling you, Steve, I
think he took that gig and he was hoping he
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was going to be able to move the Marlins, that
they were gonna move from Miami, and he was doing
every he was getting rid of all the players, he
was getting rid of the stars. And his object was,
I'm gonna move the Marlins, whether it was to Charlotte
or Montreal, whatever was gonna happen, that he was going
to be the one spearheading to move the team. He
never got in with the crowd in Miami. He had
odd interactions at at fanfests and and and season ticket
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holder meetings, and it just never worked. And all he
did was trade away star players for players who have
been able to help them cut through. And here they
are now a few games under five hundred. That doesn't
get it done. So you tell me who's gonna hire
Who's gonna hire him? He's like the Michael Jordan's as
a front office member. It's like, boy Jordan, he was
awful in the front office, but he was Michael Jordan's.
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It's the same thing for Jeter. Boy's Derek Jeter. But boy,
he really didn't know what he was doing in the
front office. And so what did Jordan do. He went
home and he got the team from his home state.
I still think it's not, you know, out of the
question that at some point in his post playing career,
Derek Jeter is gonna work for the New York Yankees.
That or the obvious if it's a non team job.
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The obvious to me is the kind of thing that
Joe Torri's office is doing now of working for MLB,
which is based in New York, that I could see
in the future also, or he just says, well, if
no one's gonna hire me, I'll just buy a team,
install myself as GM, and I'm the owner's last GM.
Absolutely he can do that. Of course, when you go
to the Marlins as he did, there are no expectations.
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Are we fair on this? It's a team that's go
on a decade without except for that one shortened season
you mentioned, it's gone a decade without even finishing at
the mark. So say what you will about the two
teams that actually won World Series in South Florida, they
were immediately broken up each time. The Marlins don't have
much of a history, and especially in the last fifteen
years let's say so, there wasn't much going in and
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still he disappointed that that's not good to happen. There
were there are no there were no expectations except hey,
be competitive. Put a team on the field that people
will come see and growth a little bit. Lose a
hundred and five games, no one's going I mean how long.
I mean, he's one of those He's one of those
guys that thinks baseball and sports are like when he
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first came up, where this is gonna be a seven
year rebuilding people Now that rebuilding period's gotta be a year. Fans,
nobody has patients for more than Hey, we're gonna rebuild
for a year, and even a year now sounds awful
for fans. Well, we're not gonna be good for another year.
We're gonna wait, We're gonna wait, We're gonna wait. No,
I mean, don't have an indefinite amount of time to
build a team up. The guy had four plus years
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and the team never got any better. He traded away
stars who are still stars in Major League Baseball, and
all the guys he got back haven't been good enough
to even get them past five hundred. I don't know
anybody that would hire him. I don't know unless the
because you're right, maybe the Yankees in some kind of
public relations deal, or if the Steinbrenners ever want to
sell the team. I'll let get to buy the team.
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Gina knows New York let But outside of that, that's
gonna be it. I mean that that that's it. No
one's gonna hire him and say, hey, go run my
baseball operations. This is a disast unless they're the Yankees.
I still say, despite the track record you said what
happened with the Marlins, Derek g and the Yankees, they're
just they're married, and the amount of respect that one
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has for the other, even so, I think is still
there and I could see him working for the Yankees
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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Greetings and welcome inside.
Happy Friday. The Jason Smith Show is Steve de Sager
in for a definitively inebriated Mike Harmon Hobo seven o'clock
on a Friday. You know you don't know Harmon like
I know Harmon. Big day in the National Football League
today when it comes to Shaun Watson, as the Houston
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Texans have settled the claims of thirty women in relation
to the sexual misconduct allegations involving their former quarterback. One
of the thirty women already file a civil suit against
the Texas in June, accusing the team of enabling Watson's behavior.
Uh Tony Buzby, says the attorney for the women. All
the the victims ledged victims in this story. Uh say
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that the case is among those being settled. So thirty
women have now reached settlements with the camp of Deshaun
Watson as far as the Texans liability with what went
on in and outside of the organization, joining us now
on the hot line to break it all down. We're
gonna spend a few minutes on this, and we're gonna
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spend a few minutes on Donovan Mitchell to the NIXT.
It is Odyssey Sports, CBS, Sports, Fox, Sports Radio, Legal
insider Amy Dash. You can follow on Twitter at Amy
Dash TV. That's at Amy Dash TV. What's happened to name? Hi?
How are you doing? Is that? Yes? It is. I'm
so happy to be back. I feel like I'm staging.
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I'd come back right now. Like this reminds me of
when I was little. I used to go to the
w w E. It was when I was younger of
us called the w WS before that lawsuit, and everybody
had an entrance song. So I feel like this is
my debut. Yeah, we we give walk up music. It's
it's it's your version of walk up music, if you exactly.
I just need a I need a stage name and
I need a costume. Well yeah, but possibly a sidekick. Okay,
(02:14):
all right, that's like being a superhero. I need a
sidekick and need a costume when you keep well, this
is what happens. Remember they all have like a manager. Well,
you gotta get your own classy Freddy blessing, right, okay,
all right? Now? Is how is that means that good
walk up music for you? Are okay? With the l
A Law theme? I think it's okay. I feel like
(02:36):
I need to have like a daunting manager. Beside, maybe
he's really like no nonsense. You know, you want to
get a little bit more hardcore. You want like Mr
Fuji with the cane when he would trip people as
they would run by. Okay, all right, that's good for Hayman,
you know, Okay, not Jimmy Hart with a megaphone yelling around.
I got a das the best I think I would
(02:59):
take him. Actually a yes, I was definitely well you
have a bit you You posted this up in your
website League of Justice dot com a couple of weeks ago.
I remember reading you had said that this was likely
going to be the outcome with the women settling the
claims against the Houston Texans who were involved in this
a couple of months ago when it was found that
they helped to facilitate to Shaun Watson getting massages away
(03:23):
from the team. Uh So this just this did not surprise.
You would all say that this was the outcome, Yeah,
because you know, they're they're really up against a wall
here where it's just been such a nightmare situation for
this franchise. I mean, the quarterback is really the face
of the franchise, so to have to go through all this,
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and I remember in the way beginning, everybody was talking
about conspiracy rumors, Oh was the team and on it
because he had asked for a trade. But if you
think about everything they went through, having to sit him
for so long and just such a bad publicity and
being harassed at the press conferences, I mean, they're just,
I think, so happy to get this behind them. And
I thought it was really interesting that the McNair's, you know,
(04:03):
signed the statement that they released today saying that the
settlements were not an admission of wrongdoing, but a clear
stand against sexual assault and misconduct of any kind. And
they signed it with kil McNair's wife and daughter. Their
names were before his. So I feel like possibly some
of the females with the new organization had a hand
in it, and it was just there was no other option.
(04:26):
I mean, what are they going to do go through
court battles with potentially thirty women. It's expensive. They can
afford to pay it off and just make it go away. Amy,
This is Steve the part of the team statement that
you just referenced the clear stand. To me, the clear
stand was we are not going to be mired in
this like he struck so many others through the mire.
(04:47):
Because this case is going on forever. There's not even
NFL discipline yet from this case. They just wanted out right. Yeah.
And I think also there's an element too of you know,
there was there was strong evidence. It's not like there
was no evidence against the team. Now, doesn't mean that
the ownership knew anything about what was going on. I
doubt they were sitting I mean, you know, who knows.
(05:08):
Maybe it's possible. I doubt though cal McNair sitting there going,
oh yeah, Deshaun Watson is out getting massages in the
Houstonian Hotel. Let's provide him with the hotel membership, Let's
get him the table. Let's make this easy for him.
So he can randomly reach out to sixty or more
Instagram people who many of them don't even have massage
therapy licenses. So I don't think there was that level
(05:29):
of involvement. But you know, there was a security employee
who was probably more involved than he should have been
with giving an n d A. That's the allegation at least. So.
And then there was an entity that was contracted by
the Texans that had complaints on record about some of
these activities, and the organization, by all accounts, at least
in stepping and stop it. So I think there is
(05:51):
some responsibility being taken, not saying that they had knowledge
of it, but saying, okay, you know, if we were
to go to court and have to fight this, there
could be some responsibility, just as uh the employers of
employees who may have been more involved than they should have.
Amy does this have any bearing on how the NFL
will conduct their investigation to the Texans, because obviously they're
(06:14):
they're looking into the four cases that are still there.
They're waiting to make their decisions still be a ways away.
How much does this affect what the NFL is doing.
You know, there's a lot of mixed feelings on that
some people are saying, and actually some people are reporting
that the NFL has already been investigating the claims against
the Texans. Um I do. I just don't see how
(06:35):
the Texans settle with thirty women and the NFL doesn't
discipline the club at all for its role active or
not direct or not knowing or not in in, you know,
failing to supervise what was going on with Deshaun Watson.
And it doesn't necessarily mean den Watson was doing exactly
what he was accused of, but things were going on
(06:56):
that obviously ended up being detrimental to the team and
the lead, and that in of itself is punishable. When
the team says, this is our clear stand against any
form of sexual assault and misconduct, are they saying they're
siding with the women that they're settling with. That seems
a little odd. It sounds to me like there is
(07:17):
some sort of an acknowledgment within that statement that things
went on that shouldn't have gone on. Now doesn't mean
that Deshaun Watson sexually assaulted any of these women. Are
all of these women? I don't think so, But I
think there's sort of that sigh of like the disappointed
parent that knows that their child not the best child. Oh,
(07:38):
you know, the honor roles students that they thought their
child would be your hope their child would be and
something went on to disappoint them, where their expectations, you know,
didn't match the reality of the situation. So I think
that they are bearing responsibility. Yeah. Do you think this
statement then is easier for the Texans to make today
because he's not with the Texans anymore. Yeah, exactly. I
think it's an ad mention of all guy. You know,
(08:01):
this guy was really a train wreck for this organization.
Whether he did it what he's accused him or not.
This is just a horrible situation on a horrible look
because of the number of accusers from the number of
people that he reached out to, and this conduct is
just not normal. I would have loved to have seen
that sentence in today's statement. This guy was a train
wreck for our organization. It's gonna tell you that. Legal
(08:21):
landlist Damie Dash with us here Fox Sports Radio, Jason Smith,
Steave Disagarin for Mike Carmon a right not to widen
this out a little bit bigger Waiting for the final
discipline call on DeShawn Watson. UH Disciplinary Officer Sue Robinson,
jointly appointed by the NFL the NFL p A currently
deciding whether Watson violated the NFL's personal conduct policy. Does
(08:41):
today's evidence is it? Does today's story have any effect
as far as that goes, and what she's weighing for Watson?
I don't think so. Um. I think the real question
is how neutral is this arbitrator and and how much
final phase the arbitrator have, you know, I think the
prevailing thought is that if there's no discipline, the NFL
(09:02):
can't protest that. But if there is discipline and they
don't like the amount of discipline, either Watson or the
NFL can appeal it, and then the NFL can step
in and completely change it to what they want anyway.
So that's kind of an odd thing because you're claiming
independence and there's going to be at least a final
decision on the facts of the situation. But then it
(09:23):
seems that anything short of no discipline, or anything more
of than no discipline, I should say, they can just
come in and do whatever they want anyway. So it's
just it's a weird new process where they're trying to
give the appearance of being more fair, but I don't
not necessarily know that it's going to play out that way.
So I'm curious to see whether she really makes a
well reasoned and thought out decision that seems at least
(09:46):
somewhat fair. Be sure to catch live editions of The
Jason Smith Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm
Eastern seven pm Pacific. I have heard people in this
case has gone on for a while, and as we
said earlier, there no NFL discipline coming yet, and who
cares The judge probably could care less. The training camps
(10:06):
are opening soon. But I have people heard people on
the outside on the air say, Hey, a couple of
grand Juries in Texas haven't indicted Watson. Does that mean anything?
Did they examine all the cases, even a majority of
the cases? Should we draw conclusions from that? Well, it depends,
because there's been some rumors that not all of the
evidence may have been presented to the grand Juries. There
(10:28):
are a lot of women that were sitting outside of
the room waiting to go and to testify, and I
believe only one may have been called. The police investigators
said that she was not called to speak before the
grand jury. I don't know if that's entirely accurate, but
if so, that's really strange because she is recorded in
a deposition the leading investigators saying that the police were
of one mind that Deshaun Watson in their in their
(10:51):
opinion at least had committed crimes in all ten cases.
So it is suspect. But what it says to me
is if everything was above board and that there was
a problem with the evidence that was presented to the
grand jury, and so there may have been some contradictory
evidence or some evidence that cast out on the credibility
of some of the accusers. But what I will say
is that those are ten people you're talking about now
(11:12):
potentially thirty accusers. Remember now with the news today, we
know that there's thirty women accusing. Before this morning, we
thought it was twenty four accusers. Now there could be
six more claims that come out against Deshaun Watson. We
don't know, but you're talking about twenty additional claims that
the NFL is examining that may not have problems with
the evidence, And so I would guess that there's going
(11:33):
to be at least a couple where there's a higher
likelihood that not that something may have happened there, because
that's the standard. It's not prooved beyond a reasonable doubt
like in a criminal court case. It is there more
than fifty percent chance that he did what he's accused of,
and if there's evidence to support that, the judge could
find that, whether it's true or not. So amy with
(11:54):
putting all of this together now, maybe a couple more
weeks or maybe a month before we get the answer
onto Shawn buson what do you expect the arbitrator's decision
to be? Uh, you know, I think she's going to
take it on a case by case basis. And I
think if the NFL is only asking for discipline in
a couple of cases, which is what the rumors are
that that they only brought forth the cases they felt
were the strongest and supported by actual evidence that something
(12:15):
happened that was at least conduct detrimental to the league,
I think she's going to issue a suspension for a
couple of cases. Each case is six games, so I
think you could be looking at at least half the season,
maybe even a full season. Um And then of course
there's a possibility if she issues less than a full season,
the NFL can appeal and just give him a full
(12:35):
season anyway. So I think definitely it's going to be um,
you know, I think more than six games for sure.
Her website is League of Justice dot com, Odyssey Sports, CBS,
Sports Radio, Fox Sports Radio official legal insider Amy Dash,
who gave us a seal of approval on her entrance music.
So so, now, uh, if I go on League Justice,
(12:56):
can I get anything on Donovan Mitchell to the next?
Do you have anything on that you writing about that
as well? Oh my goodness. Well, I'm still reeling over
the what happened at the draft. I'm still very confused
by it. I ended up going to sleep because I
was so frustrated. You can't, you know, you can't, you can't.
Trying to figure out the knicks is sometimes it's it's fruitless.
What's going on? So? Are we building a team that's
(13:19):
going to be possibly good in the next five to
ten years if everything goes right like or are we
trying to get good players now? I'm just really confused
because every day it changes, and just the idea of
building a team for the future. All I need to
do is think about what happened with the Nets, and
I have zero faith in that approach. Well you picked
me right up there on a Friday night. Ay, thanks
(13:40):
so much. I really I was excited to talk smack,
Donovan Mitchell and Jalen Brunson. What a backcourt they're gonna
wind up being. And well, I don't know. I'm still
not over the draft. So even if they were again him,
do you think that with Jalen Brentson then he's going
to really perform or is it going to be another
Randall situation? Oh no, no, no, I think that you
had a pretty good backcourt. It's an undersized backcourt, but
(14:02):
these guys are good players. And Donovan Mitchell's a star.
It's been a long time since the Knicks out of star.
Julius Randold's not a star. They thought he was one.
They paid them like one. And I was happy and
gonna say happy things about the Knicks to me. You know,
there's just a lot of people were waived. The team's
gonna look totally different, And my concerns always the chemistry.
I just feel that you need the same chemistry. You
(14:24):
don't necessarily need star players, but you need the same
chemistry that you had in the nineties, where everybody was
really gritty and they were there to win, and they
were there to work as a team. And I think
that's what the Knicks have been missing. I mean, especially
with like Carmelo Anthony and all these people that have
come through who have tried to like take the ball
and just hog the ball and completely you know, mess
(14:45):
over the team and the team's prospects. That winning a championship,
that's what New Yorkers want. They just want a championship
amy right now, of course, just championship after championship, you
can win five in a row and it's gonna be
We didn't win last year, but before that in New York.
There's no proper more competitive place than New York. I
know your softball team wants to win championship after changing
(15:06):
tough team, Yes, exactly. I'm trying to bring some toughness
to my softball team. Last year, I had a little
bit of a better mix of people. I'm going to
have to be honest, you know, there's a lot of beginners.
It can get a little bit frustrating. But the upside
to that is I'm getting a lot of action in
the infield, and I get to be the leadoff hitter.
The thing that is going. Okay, make some trades, if
(15:26):
you need to make some trades. Oh, I've already tried.
So we've got the mayor. You know, the mayor's part
of the league. So I needed to up with the
mayor and he gets very you know, I think he
threatened the Okay, you're not getting your trash picked up
my picture if you if you smack talk, you're not
going to get your trash picked up next week. And
(15:46):
there was a big fight between a picture and the mayor.
So I said, listen, we've got no one, um Like,
we've got no one in the outfield, because all we
throw all the beginners in the outfield. We have a
strong infield, but we've got no backup pitch. Sure, so
she gets tired and very heated, and then we've got
no one to catch a ball in the outfield. And
you're putting up against these people who have you know,
(16:09):
strong big girls that are hitting it really far out
there into the outfield. So that's our problem. So I've
already tried to negotiate some trades. It's not going so well,
but I'm going to keep at it. Well, good luck.
Let me know and and uh, you know, if you
need help with the salary cap, I can help navigate
that for you as well. I just want trophies. Can
you be we were undefeated last year, we didn't even
(16:29):
get a trophy. Ah, well, good luck. We will talk soon.
And remember, I guess that's my I'm being sung off.
I thought you've got you going to the batting cages. Now,
I thought you got to gotta get a late night
batting cage session in. Yeah, I gotta go meet up
with the bush whackers. I'll see you guys later. Any
(16:51):
there you go, boy, I'm not gonna pick up your trash. Okay,
all right. I learned two things for this. Aside from
all the good NFL it is, it's had another Nicks
fan who's not convinced they're trying to get good players.
Second they pick up the trash in New York, they'll
get there. They'll get there. I'll tell you her team's
got more drama than the Mets. So maybe it's because
(17:14):
they're in New York. Be sure to catch live editions
of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at
ten pm Eastern seven pm Pacific Fox Sports Radio. That
Jason Smith Show was Steve de Sager in from Mike
Harmon tonight. Well, there you go. See Harmon is still
there even when you think he's not. Oh, getting closer
(17:38):
and closer to the All Star Game in Major League
Baseball and the Peter Alonso Show, the Home Run Derby.
Today we found out that legend and Hall of Famer
Derek Jeter well eventually want back into baseball. Remember Jeter left,
uh the Miami Marlins organization in February, saying that it
was time from the step aside because they kind of
(18:00):
weren't on the same page. That was change going on
with the Marlins and he wasn't on board with it.
Things were going so well, Oh it was great. Are
you kidding? The Marlins had won four straight in at
least titles or not. I'm sorry, Oh that was last place.
Sorry I had to I I clicked on the wrong
button when you can say when you can invert the divisions,
because I usually do that for the Mets. Uh they
(18:22):
had him on top there on the bottom. Uh, Jeter
stepping down as CEO of the Marlins didn't interview with
the ESPN S Hannah Storm ahead of his the premiere
of his seven part ESPN documents. It's only seven I
thought it was seventy seven parts. They're gonna run this
the same time as Ken Burns's Baseball and see what
ends first. I think they're actually hoping for another coronavirus shutdown.
(18:43):
So like the documentary, they could just run it every day.
It will be the only thing to get some ratings.
Take that back, Take that back, keep thinking speaking at it,
speaking things in the universe might actually make them occur.
I don't think it works that way, all right, No
one is hoping for an other. But the interview that
(19:03):
Hannah Storm did with Derek Jeter, she asked, look, it's
a again, it's a seventy five part it's a seven
part series on his career. She asked him if he
would be back into baseball at some point, and his
answer was quote, I love the game. I really do
love the game. I mean, I hope he would. Baseball's
his whole life. I think it's the greatest game in
the world. So yeah, at some point, I'm sure I'll
(19:24):
do something. Now, let's just stop for one second here.
Derek Jeter All Star Hall of Fame shortstop for the Yankees.
No one's gonna tell him no on anything. Derek Jeter
front office member running a baseball team. Who is going
to give him that job Again? When he says doing
something in baseball, he's got to mean something not involving
(19:46):
running a team, because in the time he took over,
they were a hundred games under five hundred over all.
The Marlins. Yes, in the COVID year they made the playoffs,
back when twelve teams made the playoffs. But basically, Jeter
is gonna be known for trading away a trio of
great players who continued to be stars now in Major
League Baseball. Stanton Yellow, Jozuna, all guys they left. They
(20:10):
cut bait On, especially Yellow, who turned into an m
v P player when they didn't really have to trade
Christian Yellois didn't have to, he was under team control
and everything was fine. And now Derek Jeter is leaving.
His legacy is he traded away the stars. He helped
out his old team. Honestly, I'm telling you, Steve, I
think he took that gig and he was hoping he
(20:30):
was going to be able to move the Marlins, that
they were gonna move from Miami, and he was doing
every he was getting rid of all the players, he
was getting rid of the stars. And his object was,
I'm gonna move the Marlins, whether it was to Charlotte
or Montreal, whatever was gonna happen, that he was going
to be the one spearheading to move the team. He
never got in with the crowd in Miami. He had
odd interactions at at fanfests and and and season ticket
(20:54):
holder meetings, and it just never worked. And all he
did was trade away star players for players who have
been able to help them cut through. And here they
are now a few games under five hundred. That doesn't
get it done. So you tell me who's gonna hire
Who's gonna hire him? He's like the Michael Jordan's as
a front office member. It's like, boy Jordan, he was
awful in the front office, but he was Michael Jordan's.
(21:15):
It's the same thing for Jeter. Boy's Derek Jeter. But boy,
he really didn't know what he was doing in the
front office. And so what did Jordan do. He went
home and he got the team from his home state.
I still think it's not, you know, out of the
question that at some point in his post playing career,
Derek Jeter is gonna work for the New York Yankees.
That or the obvious if it's a non team job.
(21:37):
The obvious to me is the kind of thing that
Joe Torri's office is doing now of working for MLB,
which is based in New York, that I could see
in the future also, or he just says, well, if
no one's gonna hire me, I'll just buy a team,
install myself as GM, and I'm the owner's last GM.
Absolutely he can do that. Of course, when you go
to the Marlins as he did, there are no expectations.
(21:58):
Are we fair on this? It's a team that's go
on a decade without except for that one shortened season
you mentioned, it's gone a decade without even finishing at
the mark. So say what you will about the two
teams that actually won World Series in South Florida, they
were immediately broken up each time. The Marlins don't have
much of a history, and especially in the last fifteen
years let's say so, there wasn't much going in and
(22:21):
still he disappointed that that's not good to happen. There
were there are no there were no expectations except hey,
be competitive. Put a team on the field that people
will come see and growth a little bit. Lose a
hundred and five games, no one's going I mean how long.
I mean, he's one of those He's one of those
guys that thinks baseball and sports are like when he
(22:42):
first came up, where this is gonna be a seven
year rebuilding people Now that rebuilding period's gotta be a year. Fans,
nobody has patients for more than Hey, we're gonna rebuild
for a year, and even a year now sounds awful
for fans. Well, we're not gonna be good for another year.
We're gonna wait, We're gonna wait, We're gonna wait. No,
I mean, don't have an indefinite amount of time to
build a team up. The guy had four plus years
(23:05):
and the team never got any better. He traded away
stars who are still stars in Major League Baseball, and
all the guys he got back haven't been good enough
to even get them past five hundred. I don't know
anybody that would hire him. I don't know unless the
because you're right, maybe the Yankees in some kind of
public relations deal, or if the Steinbrenners ever want to
sell the team. I'll let get to buy the team.
(23:25):
Gina knows New York let But outside of that, that's
gonna be it. I mean that that that's it. No
one's gonna hire him and say, hey, go run my
baseball operations. This is a disast unless they're the Yankees.
I still say, despite the track record you said what
happened with the Marlins, Derek g and the Yankees, they're
just they're married, and the amount of respect that one
(23:46):
has for the other, even so, I think is still
there and I could see him working for the Yankees
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