July 30, 2022 • 35 mins
Jason and Mike reacts to Shohei Ohtani being on the trading block as the Angels are open to offers, the Jaguars cut a kicker that missed multiple kicks in practice, and Kyler Murray had a very interesting add to his contract!
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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Radio The
Jason Smith Show with my big friend Mike Harmon. A big,
a big night in Major League Baseball. We'll get into
the big Luis Castillo trade to the Mariners and Duge Boner.
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Are the Dodgers really close to getting show? Hey, o
tal well, have let do Frostburg just fainted. Frostberg just
shoom boom next stuff right there, just thinking it. But
by this time tomorrow, you know, if you know, show,
if Frostburg's thinking, show, Hey, Otani's playing outfield, Cody Bellinger's
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playing center field for the Angels because now they have
a guy that could play center field. And Mike Trout
will d h it all works out for him, It
works out, it all comes together. That's that's generally the
way this all Uh, it works. Hey, speaking of the
rich get rich? Remember I did tell you before the
season started Aaron Judge was gonna be there. How do
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you know I didn't bet it. How do you want
to be here in the money? Why I can't collect
money yet. I gotta wait till the season ends. Now
you can get you can get someone to Uh. Harm
would have bought you out by now? Yeah. I was
gonna say, there's plenty of place prop swaps and all
that stuff that. So, yeah, I couldn't make it happen.
Could I do that? If I said, hey, listen, I
bet you know, ten thousand dollars on Aaron Judge winning
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the m v P. If he wins the m v P,
you will owe me, you know, a hundred thousand dollars.
But if you wanted to pay me seventy grand right now,
I would take it. Well, there are places that would
do that. What's he's min now? Yeah, No, that's a
prohibitive favorite. I don't I don't know that the casinos
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are gonna just pay you out. There are marketplaces established
whereby you could do that. I would where you could
go sell your ticket for some percentage of what that
wind would be right now. Uh interest, it's like any
other marketplace, right it's trying to figure out exactly what
that valuation would be based on the forty one home
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runs and what is it nine RBI that you have
to date. Feeling that it's a pretty sure thing, I
would imagine you'd get a pretty high percentage of what
that ticket would be worth. Oh boy, See, that's what
I'd like to do, is bet on the possibility of futures,
and then when it looks like I'm gonna win, I
cash out and I'm onto my next thing. Yeah, exactly,
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their their active market places. You could do that. I
just have to be right up until a certain point
like this, I'm gonna be right all the way through
because but like even this one, probably you've had a
market probably established for a good month or so, and
then it becomes the you know, the payout would be
a higher percentage at this point because the likelihood with
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every home run and every judge and last means that
you're you're more likely to cash out if you're able to. Again,
it's like any you know, it's like the the annuity.
You know, I have a structured settlement, but I need
cat you know, that that whole thing. Uh, they'll pay
you out a percentage. Need cash call now right so
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that you can get your cash. They're not giving h
they'll get you the cash in hand. Where can I do?
Where can I get that from? I don't know. Let
me drive by the billboard again. Hang on, I didn't
write it down. I'll take a screenshot and I'll send
it to you. There you have it, my friends. Uh,
So we'll have more on baseball coming up, because again
we had the big trade to break down tonight. The
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second biggest name besides Soho, besides Soda rather not Luis
Soo besides last Soho now available on HBO Max. Pretty good.
So Uh, the biggest name besides Soto is now off
the market. But Patrick Mahomes had a pretty interesting and
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stand up day even though it's just another day of
training camp right now, the Kyler Murray saga has been
a big deal all week long. Right We started the
week by finding out the Kyler Murray when in part
of his two and thirty million dollar extension, he was
gonna have an independent study clause put into it, whereas
he needed to spend four hours a week away from
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facilities prepping for the upcoming opponent. The Cardinals knew that
he wasn't going to do it, so they wanted to
put it into his contract. Okay, they put it into
the contract. It didn't play very well. Surprise. Only the
Cardinals can take a hey, we just signed our franchise
quarterback to a huge deal. It's gonna tie them to
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us forever and have it turned into an absolute dumpster fire.
Only the Cardinals. But that's what happened because now Kyler
Murray looks like a guy we know that doesn't work hard,
and the Cardinals still wanted to give him money even
though they were unsure about him. It was not a
great situation. Then the Cardinals tried to make it a
little bit better because the announcement comes yesterday that they
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are taking that clause out of the contract. There's no
longer gonna have to worry about doing that pesky studying.
They're not gonna put the clause of Kyler Murray having
to study extra time away from the facility into his
contract to be able to collect that two thirty million dollars. So, okay,
everything seems to be done. Now. This is a big
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topic of conversation. We've all waited on and everybody has
been a big topic over the course of the week,
and today Patrick Mahomes got the question at training camp.
Now you gotta remember, this is Mahomes coming off the
field or coming onto the field, and he's answering questions.
This wasn't I need to have a press conference. I
want to talk about this. This is him getting a
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question about if quarterbacks like Patrick Mahomes, Kyler, Murray Lamar Jackson,
if black quarterbacks are treated and evaluated a little bit
differently than other quarterbacks. And this is Patrick Mahomes's answer.
I don't want to go that far and say that.
I mean, obviously the black quarterback has had a battle
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to be in this position that we are to have
this many guys in the league playing, and I think
every day we're proven that we should have been playing
the whole time. We've got guys that think think just
as well as they can use their athleticism, and so, uh,
it always is weird when you see guys like me,
Lamar Kyler kind of get that on them and other
guys don't. But the same time, we're gonna go out
there and prove ourselves every day to show that we
can some of the best quarterbacks in the league. He
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went on to say, look, Tom Brady, he is still
proving himself every day and proving that he can play
in the league. So it wasn't like he stopped after that.
He mh, you know Tom Brady still at that point
in his NFL career. Because Brady's a guy that's along
had the best work ethic or thought of his having
the best work ethic as an NFL quarterback. That's why
he's winning super Bowls when he's forty four years old.
When this story came out and Patrick Mahomes spoke, I
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knew this is gonna be one of those dividing topics
of of either one side is gonna be Patrick Mahomes.
I can't believe he's saying what he said. He doesn't
get criticism like the other quarterbacks do. What kind of
criticism is he talking about? He doesn't get criticized, And
then the other side is going to be, Hey, black
quarterbacks do have to worry about getting criticized like this
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that white quarterbacks sometimes don't. I knew this was gonna
be that kind of of of topic where everybody runs
all the way to one side or runs all the
way to the other. And you know what, sometimes the
answer is not at the either end of a spectrum.
This is why Patrick ma Holmes is Patrick Mahomes and
he has the reputation that he does and why he's
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the superstar that people love and people want to go
play with. He has asked this question, which is a
loaded question. Alright, again, he's coming off the field, right,
I'm walking on the field, I'm walking off. I'm gonna
start answering questions and you get a question, Hey, how
are black quarterbacks judge in the NFL? WHOA Okay, this
is not I've had time to sit down. I'm sitting
down with someone for a big interview. We're gonna talk
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about Kyler Murray. But clearly he had his answer ready,
knowing full well I'm going to be asked this at
some point. That's Prett's up. That's pretty heavy stuff, and
he gives an answer that encompasses everything that should be
about this question. Do black quarterbacks have a have a
stigma against and they have to fight past? Yes, they do.
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At the same time, are more quarterbacks getting a chance
opportunity now? Yes, he said, we're getting the chances now
to show that we're here and we should have always
been here. Yes, that's true as well. At the same time,
I'm not going that far to say we're so far over,
he criticized because he also understands that I'm making three
million dollars and Lamar Jackson's gonna make that too, and
Kyler just got two thirty million dollars. So he gave
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an answer, you know, and you hit it on the head,
Mike when you said it before. It was very presidential.
It was the way to say, listen, this is a
very serious topic, and I'm gonna tell you about the
serious things that black quarterbacks, what we have had to
fight through. At the same time, we have made a
lot of strides and there are good things going on
outside of it. But remember there are some times where
it's weird, where where some of the criticisms we get
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are weird and people are gonna run to both sides
on this. But this is how you answer that question.
This is why Patrick Mahomes is Patrick Mahomes. That's why
he has this reputation, it's why people like him, it's
why people listen to him, because this is not well.
This one way is right and absolute everybody else is wrong. Now,
this is one of those stories. There's a lot of
angles to It's not just one question where you can say, Okay,
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this is the answer. Now it's a little bit more
nuance and that some things are a little bit more difficult,
and he finds a way in his answer to hit
on all of them. I mean, it's on every single
part of the the question. Everything is about black quarterbacks. Yes,
there are things we're fighting against. No, I don't want
to say that we're all treated unfairly. You're always treated unfairly,
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because clearly we are getting treated better. Uh, do we
need to do better? Yes? Our other quarterbacks always proving
themselves like me and Lamar and and uh and Kyler
Murray are Yes. In fact, I'm gonna give you Tom
Brady's name. I mean, this is how you answer a
question like that. And I know the people, like I said,
we're gonna run to both sides. But this was about
as good an answer as you can get. That gets
everything across. And again it's why Mahomes is Mahomes. Yeah,
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it's nuanced, it's well thought out. It pulls all the
emotion out of the question and pulls it back into
a space of let's talk about the evolution of the
position and the challenges that were being faced and at
one point weren't being addressed. Now they are still strive
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just to be made and certainly some of the terminology
and language that is used sometimes associated with quarterbacks Mahomes himself. Right,
there was the anonymous criticism of him this week in
the wake of all the Tyreek Hill stuff, right as
people try to evaluate what this squad could look like
for two and it was well, a lot of running
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around in street ball. The term street ball is loaded.
I mean, we we just have to be realistic about it, right.
It is. It is not a uh, it's no longer
a you're playing football and you're evaluating on the fly
and and giving to the cognitive ability to keep a
play moving to get to your second read, third read.
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It dismisses all of that and goes straight into you know,
fight or flight instinct and just you know, the athleticism
winning out versus giving credit to all of the acumen
and all of the work that goes in to being
able to make said play and the communication that you
have with your wide receivers, etcetera. So so he had
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a little bit of that and in tandem with what
was going on all week with Kyler Murray. And obviously
the Murray has much more US specific language to it,
and the is rife for comedy based on that clause
being in and it's not making fun of him, to
making fun of a situation. The guy has shown he's
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a he's a hell of a player, right, we all
stipulate to that. I think even the biggest critic would
say he's had a lot of success and then you
obviously we have to see where it fell short and
go from there, right, and then that's where we're at
with Kyler Murray. But for Patrick Mahomes to lay this
out as he did, it's a challenge to people that
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cover the league and talk about the league and also
the recognition that you know, with numbers and with the
opportunities that have now been earned and are not uh,
it's not like it was twenty five years ago, twenty
years ago, hell, fifteen years ago or ten that you
have players that that do get to come out of
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the college ranks and becomes stars and make millions and
become you know, big faces for the league. And there's
a responsibility that goes to that, so I think in
his comments he he kind of grabbed everything into a
big hug and said, here's where we are. Let's keep
pushing this forward. Telling awesome, awesome stuff by Patrick Mahomes
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Happy Friday. That's how you answer a question like that.
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Mike Harmon. What is this song? Tie shirt? This is
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pure gold in the bag. It's gonna play that forever
vacation tie shirt? When do you go again? How long
the end of this month? All right? Wait? What out
my time off? Yeah? Might call him a quitner. Come on,
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tell you, Yeah, he's gonna tie shirts in the point
in his life where he's got to go find himself, like, Hey,
I'm gonna take that journey of self discovery. I'm gonna
find that's him in the corner. That's that's what I'm
gonna do. Tie shirt. You're ready to go to the
desert tent and firewood. Let's go, Mike. You're welcome to
come Joshua Tree. All right, oh that's who you are
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going there? You are going to take one of those
exist Hey, I'm gonna go josh Re Tree and find myself,
gonna purse incense. I'm gonna think about my life. Yeah,
singing all the end of the wild songs, bended knees,
No way to be go ahead? What what tie shirt?
I was gonna sound? We literally had the conversation off air.
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I told him I was going to have a trip
to Joshua Tre So why are you actually surprised? Don't
forget the M and M S skittles are banned, so
so not going with Marshawn Lynch. Okay, got it? Uh, well,
have a great trip. Tip when you When are you going? Thanks?
At the end of this month? Okay, alright, very good.
Well next month, it's almost well it end of August month,
end of August you're going? Yeah, I thought was August. Okay,
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that's right now, it's still July. I heard through me.
Still that's all right. Oh it's a big week. I mean,
you just kept posting all your senpie stuff, big backdrops,
and I don't I don't know how corporate would feel
about it, but you did it them in my new
Tears for Fears T shirt that I'm wearing. Dude, I
am right now, Dude, he's getting every dime worth. So, Jason,
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can I call myself a TikTok start now? I'm getting
paid for TikTok? Are you getting paid for TikTok to
wait to to to put TikTok videos about Tears for
Fears up? No? Just my own videos? Oh okay, I
thought like you would have to do it like you
were making like Tears for Fears are actually making money
on that? No? They better amy, Then you're a TikTok star,
I will I would say star, like there's a lot
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of people that never have to work again because they
post TikTok video. They travel with their own light, you know,
so they can stand in Fronday look at this. It's
gonna be great. Like are you at that level? Okay?
I'm not going to be that kind of guy. Okay,
but I will still call it because it sounds better
for the show. If you are TikTok star Alex Tysher
I got fifty followers, it's pretty good. No, you're a
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TikTok star if you're getting paid a little bit. That's great.
Paid for those video guys. The video he took a
kick to the junk for a cappy's son and a burrito,
it's a seventeen second loop of him singing, everybody wants
to rule the world. It's a good idea, and I'm
getting paid for it. That bad way to go. No, no,
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it sounds better than just you're on TikTok. Right, I
can ask you these questions. Yeah, you can't even spell
TikTok uh t. I seek it alright. So to night
in Major League Baseball, it was a very big night. Right,
we've talked about Aaron Judge. Tonight will be the night.
Aaron Judge clinched the A L m v P in
two thousand, twenty two July two home runs, including a
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grand slam the Yankees wint home runs eighty nine r B.
I s it's over, Aaron Judges your a l m
v P. And while this was going on, the Seattle
Mariners said, oh no, no, wait a minute, we want
some of those headlines. They make a trade for the
non Juan Soto biggest name at the trade deadline and
getting Luis Castillo from the Cincinnati Reds. The Mariners who
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started out this season you thought it was gonna be
a season just like the last twenty seasons where it
was gonna be no playoffs. But they catch fire. They
win fourteen games in a row. They're playing extremely well.
Not tonight, but they're playing extremely well. There in the
thick of the race in the A L. West. Are
there in the thick of the playoff race now when
they're not in the race because they're twelve games out,
because the Astros are the Astros. But they make a
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very gutsy move. They trade four prospects away. I really
thought one of them was gonna be Jared Celnic but
it wasn't. Uh So, maybe because the Reds didn't want him.
We don't want that guy. He's a stiff. Don't try
to pawn them off on us. When the Mets pawned
him off on you. But they make this move and
they give up three of their top five prospects in
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the system in the trade. And there's two sides of this.
There's the oh, I can't believe they did this. You
gotta save the prospects. And there's the hey, you gotta
go for it. Um. Yeah, the side of this to
be on is you gotta go for it. You're the Mariners.
You're not sniffing the playoffs in any year since Alex
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Rodriguez was playing for you, and Ken Griffey was playing there,
and so was Ja Buner and Ken Phelps. Get Ken Phelps.
So yeah, when you're in it, you gotta go for it.
And it's not like you went and you got a
guy who was over the hill. It's gonna give you
a couple of months. You got a guy that's gonna
give you a year plus here in Louise Castillo. The
guy is a great picture. All I gotta do is
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tell you, Jason Stark put up the stat today. The
only guy in Mariner's history with a better strikeout two
inning ratio and a better e R A plus is
Randy Johnson. That's it. Only guy in Mariner's history with
a better strikeout to walk ratio and an e R
A plus is Randy Johnson. So yeah, you gotta go
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get this guy when you can. Now you've become a
team and a threat for the playoffs, and you can
win in the playoffs. You've made your team immensely better
and you've taken nothing away from the team that got
you this far. You have a budding superstar that ever
we just calling Julio. Now that's a just one name guy.
Just that's it, no last name, don't need it anymore. Uh,
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this is when you do it. That's why I love
this move. It's gutsy. It energize as a team. It
tells the team, Hey, we'll go for it when it's
there for us. The other years it hasn't been there.
And look, Jerry Depotog got all kinds of criticism the
last few years, but what were you really gonna do
where you're ever really in it? So this tells you, hey,
we'll make that move. We're not afraid. The fan base
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is galvanized. Everybody's excited. Even in the future. If it
comes up next year, it's not well, we're gonna be
dumping guys the deadline. It could be, Hey, if we
need a guy. I just watched our front office go
get Luis Castillo, who was a terrific picture. So now
we're gonna go out and get him. I love this move.
I love everything about it for Seattle. Yeah, this speaks
to a long standing truism on the on the show,
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and certainly philosophically where I've been at all the way
along you you can take your prospects have at it,
because they got everything's got to go right right, Yes,
you do have the occasional can't miss guy like you
have with Julio right now at one right, sixteen and
fifty two at the All Star break, goes and and
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gets to this whole other level by putting on a
show in the home run derby. But now he's the
guy that you watch and say, all right, the team
is on the come and here you are. You get
rid of a number of prospects, right, three of your
top product. Whatever the odds that all three were gonna
become stars, the odds that one of the three was
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gonna become a star, right, you've got an opportunity to
go and make things happen right now. It's the f
them picks comes to Major League Baseball. And certainly when
we talk about prospecting, and and nobody loves to go
through top one hundred lists more than we do. I
know you do it and see where your Mets prospects
are in a given a year. I certainly do it
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with the White Sox. And we always know that the
top is littered with Dodgers, that's just the way it works.
So for them, you've got an organization where since it
is Shark week, I use my old analogy, you take
a bite, right, Shark's gonna lose a tooth or two
in the process. What happens, They've got more at the
ready the next rowe comes up. That's Dodger prospects for you.
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Most other organizations do not have that. You do not
have that all right, next next group is is coming
up because you don't have that organizational stability, the longevity
with coaches and scouts and getting players ready for that
next level. For the Seattle Mariners, they're relevant for the
first time in two decades. We're talking about those names
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and for us we laugh, but you recognize how long
that is. Right, I have the I'm guilty oftentimes of
aging myself and forgetting that people are aging with me.
It's like that guy can only like, well know, and
we do that with you, Like look at NBA players
NFL players like wait, junior, are you kid mate? Like
Asante Samuel Jr. Is an NFL player really, but you
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know what I mean, Things like that that that punch
you in the face for for the Seattle Mariners. The
stars we're talking about are long in the Hall of Fame.
They're guys that are long retired into that next phase
of what they're doing. And so when you have an
opportunity to make some noise, and look, you're not catching
individu and unless something crazy happens, but you're there, you're there,
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and you have an opportunity by bringing in a frontline
starter to make some noise because you need one great
start and all of a sudden, the rest of the
series gets thrown into flux. And I love this. I
love this for baseball that it's not one of your
traditional teams that are always in the playoff hunt that
we're always talking about in the final couple of weeks
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of September, that this is a new team cracking that
list and going for it right now in Seattle. They've
got to be absolutely thrilled. Even if you you do
have the sticker shock of your prospects, get over it.
The time is now, go make some noise. Tomorrow is
not promised. Be sure to catch live editions of The
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Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern,
seven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
Heart Radio app show. Hey oh, Tony is on the block,
but is he really on the block? The Angels, uh
are listening to offers for Otani. This has been out
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now for a day or so. And yes it is
public that if you want Showhyotani, the Angel will listen
to your phone call. Will the Dodgers get him? John
Paul Morosi, Fox Sports one MLB network insider put this
out on Twitter just a few moments ago, saying that
the Dodgers have tried to engage the Angels regarding the
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possibility of acquiring the superstar. However, a Showhyotani trade is
still viewed as unlikely. You know, well, that's the thing.
I'm gonna tell you so, and that's you know, listen,
it's Gavin Lux, it's Dustin May, it's a couple of guys,
and suddenly, hey, it's Showeyotani. Um, Shohyotani really isn't on
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the block. He really isn't. Juan Soto is on the
trading block. Shoyotani is not. And the reason I know
this is because I judge by the reaction, uh when
the story came out. The Angels are gonna listen for
offers for Otani. There was no buzz. There was no
traction on this story like it was with Juan Soto.
Juan Soto turned down a big contract extension, the Nationals say, hey,
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we we we could move him. Call us we're ready,
we are motivated. Okay, this has become a story because
teams are calling and you're starting to get names going
back and forth. But there aren't really names because what
the Angel is simply doing is they're saying, okay, we
just we have to worry about Mike Trout now for
the rest of his career. We told you the other
night with his back injury, his days in center field
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should be over when he returns from the injured list,
because you want him to play as much as he can,
and you want to put those thirty five home runs
and a hundred twenty r bis and three batting average
in the lineup a hundred and fifty games a year,
you can find someone else to play center field. Um so, now,
if he's gonna d h what about Otani? Will he
play first? Babe? You're not good. You thought you were
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going to compete with this team and you're not. You
spent so much money on on Trout and Otani and Rendon,
and here you are. You're gonna be dumping guys to
the deadline. This is simply, hey, we'll take phone calls
because if someone gives us a crazy, stupid offer, then
we'll look into it. If someone calls and said, oh
my god, here's our top four prospects and here's two good, young,
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controllable players, you can have an entirely new, you know,
top six in your batting order. Well, then the Angels
would say, all right, now we gotta look into trading Otani.
But they're not gonna do it because they're not going
to get an offer like that. They're gonna ask for
the moon, and teams are gonna say no. Right. It
gets to the point for stars where if you ask
for too much, teams are gonna just unplug and go away.
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The Mariners made the trade tonight because they gave four prospects,
three of their top five, to the Reds. Okay, you
can't just compare trade to trade and say, because you
got this in this deal, this is what this guy
is worth. It doesn't work that way. A player is
worth what someone's going willing to give up to get him.
The minute the Dodgers call and say, hey, what about
for Otani? What do you think about this? And the
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and the Angels say, no, you saw what the package
was just for Luis Castillo. We want way more than that. Click.
Everybody's hanging up. Same thing with the Nets and Kevin Durant.
We want three first round picks and a superstar and
another good player and two other good players in the rotation.
Teams are going no, sorry, not doing it. Um. This
is not a case of Otani really being on the block.
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This is if someone calls us with a stupid offer,
we will consider it and maybe we'll move on for him,
because he didn't give us the warm fuzzy today when
he was asked about being on the trading block, he
just said, I'm an angel for now. That's all I
can control. Eventually, could they trade him? Yeah? Are they
gonna find a way to trade him somehow in the
next three or four days? I I don't see it.
This is just a show thing in case someone wants
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to call with something crazy. Yeah, you want to blow
them away by coming up with all sorts of prospects,
a couple of major league ready people, uh and whatever whatever.
The other accoutrements you you can do. I have at it.
But I think part of it is the the pressure
out there, right because it's being been such a talked
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about event of theoretical we've asked the question for the
last couple of weeks. Could they should they? You know,
from a business standpoint, I mean that that is one
money generating individual, and right now, that's where the Angels are.
They're not in winning mode. They're in revenue mode, which
is what they've been forever, right that. And that's the
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problem here is that there's no path to winning. So
if you're the Angels, yeah, you'll take the calls. But
do any of those deals get you closer to winning? No,
And they also take away your most prized player who
fills stands where people take trips from overseas, from nations
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all over this world in large groups to come watch
him hit and to watch him pitch, yeah, and the
other stuff of southern California, but to the tune of
over three point two million people per year right now,
So no, uh, you're really gonna have to convince Artie Moreno,
this is a big deal. He's not sending him away
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just because the ultimate goal for a show. Hey, O,
TONI is to win. He doesn't care about that Twitter
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crazy NFL stories from training camp earlier today, one involving
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can you guys hear me at from the Fox Sports
Radio studios. Um, you know, look, it's Friday. We've had
a lot of fun. We've talked about some great stuff
involving Patrick Mahomes and and the potential trades in Major
League Baseball and a great move the Mariners made. But
with NFL training camp in full swing, ah, we'd be
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remiss if we didn't get to a couple of really
big stories involving people who are hit by arrant Football's
uh the Jaguars today cut a kicker who missed a
bunch of kicks in practice, one of them hitting a bystander.
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Andrew Melvis from Iowa State was in camp and he
missed three field goals. One of them he missed so
badly that he hit somebody hit in the shoulder with
a kick that Melvis pulled wide. Oh it wasn't just
any old person. He hit former Dallas Cowboys head coach
and training camp hard knocks are Dave Campo? What are
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the odds? And really not only do you drill someone
with an errant kick and you're from all reports he
wasn't close all day. No, No, that's the thing. If
you're getting bounced this early, I mean, one, it's not
for hitting Dave Campo, but it's indicative of a much
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larger problem. Wow, what a day you at, Dave Campo.
I mean, it is since it is the summer, we're
getting close to hard knocks. It is Dave Campo time.
But I mean, really, Dave Campos working in local radio
now Dave Campo when he got hit, and again because
I like the story, because well, I mean, I'm glad
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he's okay, but it also gives me a chance to
do my Dave Campo impression, because I'm one of the
few you are that has a Dave Campo impression hanging.
Here's my Dave Campo. You're ready in Dave Campo, and
I gotta go back to hard knocks to do it.
Throughout to hard knocks. Drew Henson is a heck of
a football player. There you go, that's Dave Campo. Camp
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that damp way to make that happen. Also in the
news today for hitting someone. Uh, it's it's look, it
was it was great. Uh, it was great stories all
all day long. I'd like seeing the Cadarius Tony is
is starting to get some run now here with the Giants,
and if you and I stay healthy, he'll be interesting.
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You and you and I have him on our Dynasty team.
So I'm glad he's uh, he's he's getting he's getting
some pretty good reps um. But uh, Daniel Jones in
an errand pass hit somebody on the sidelot practice today. Yeah,
it's not the headlines you want, right, Look, you'd rather
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have it be He went one of four in red zones. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
with his accuracy, he was a little high whatever um,
this this, this, this is not good. Yeah. No he
hit no, no, no, he hit a fan with him
with a wait called a misplaced pass. That's what that's
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a good pr person, right, you know. And that's the
thing is that everything in camp is blown up because
we don't get to see it. Right. We talked this
a little bit last night. You don't get to see stuff.
So everything that happens is amped up times fifty. And
this is Daniel Jones hit a fan. And you're picturing
him just running around and throwing the football like away
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from the receiver and maybe backwards and into his own
end zone and hitting somebody and Dave Campbell like sitting
in the stands near the tunnel and somehow he gets
hit with a football like this is how bad? Is Look?
What ended r G three's career in the NFL. What
was the biggest thing. Obviously he was on a downward turn.
He started out eight, but he had too many injuries
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and he had a lot of issues in Washington. But
what ended it when he when he was in camp
with the Ravens and the report that he threw a
pass so far out of the end zone that it
hit Reporters who were fifteen twenty yards back of the
end zone. It was like, how do you hit a
guy like that? And that was like the beginning of
the end for him. That's what I knew. He's only
gonna be in the league so much longer. It's an
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embarrassing story. Now. Meanwhile, what was he doing. He was
told by the coaches, listen, you throw it away. He
was emphasizing, I know, to throw the football away when
that happened. So when I'm in the red zone, I
can throw this five yards out of the end zone.
But I'm gonna show you I can throw it. I'm
gonna throw it thirty yards out of the end zone.
And it's embarrassing when it hit somebody because that's the
story you get. But this is what happens in training camp,
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and it gets really embarrassing. So, yeah, when you have
a kick that hits a former head coach so bad, Yeah,
you're gonna get cut. When Daniel Jones hits another fan,
it's uh, Daniel Jones is terrible. He's gonna suck. What
are we gonna do? This is like what life is
like right now. In training camp. That's hit You ride
the highs, you see the lows, and occasionally some subruder
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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Radio The
Jason Smith Show with my big friend Mike Harmon. A big,
a big night in Major League Baseball. We'll get into
the big Luis Castillo trade to the Mariners and Duge Boner.
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Are the Dodgers really close to getting show? Hey, o
tal well, have let do Frostburg just fainted. Frostberg just
shoom boom next stuff right there, just thinking it. But
by this time tomorrow, you know, if you know, show,
if Frostburg's thinking, show, Hey, Otani's playing outfield, Cody Bellinger's
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playing center field for the Angels because now they have
a guy that could play center field. And Mike Trout
will d h it all works out for him, It
works out, it all comes together. That's that's generally the
way this all Uh, it works. Hey, speaking of the
rich get rich? Remember I did tell you before the
season started Aaron Judge was gonna be there. How do
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you know I didn't bet it. How do you want
to be here in the money? Why I can't collect
money yet. I gotta wait till the season ends. Now
you can get you can get someone to Uh. Harm
would have bought you out by now? Yeah. I was
gonna say, there's plenty of place prop swaps and all
that stuff that. So, yeah, I couldn't make it happen.
Could I do that? If I said, hey, listen, I
bet you know, ten thousand dollars on Aaron Judge winning
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the m v P. If he wins the m v P,
you will owe me, you know, a hundred thousand dollars.
But if you wanted to pay me seventy grand right now,
I would take it. Well, there are places that would
do that. What's he's min now? Yeah, No, that's a
prohibitive favorite. I don't I don't know that the casinos
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are gonna just pay you out. There are marketplaces established
whereby you could do that. I would where you could
go sell your ticket for some percentage of what that
wind would be right now. Uh interest, it's like any
other marketplace, right it's trying to figure out exactly what
that valuation would be based on the forty one home
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runs and what is it nine RBI that you have
to date. Feeling that it's a pretty sure thing, I
would imagine you'd get a pretty high percentage of what
that ticket would be worth. Oh boy, See, that's what
I'd like to do, is bet on the possibility of futures,
and then when it looks like I'm gonna win, I
cash out and I'm onto my next thing. Yeah, exactly,
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their their active market places. You could do that. I
just have to be right up until a certain point
like this, I'm gonna be right all the way through
because but like even this one, probably you've had a
market probably established for a good month or so, and
then it becomes the you know, the payout would be
a higher percentage at this point because the likelihood with
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every home run and every judge and last means that
you're you're more likely to cash out if you're able to. Again,
it's like any you know, it's like the the annuity.
You know, I have a structured settlement, but I need
cat you know, that that whole thing. Uh, they'll pay
you out a percentage. Need cash call now right so
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that you can get your cash. They're not giving h
they'll get you the cash in hand. Where can I do?
Where can I get that from? I don't know. Let
me drive by the billboard again. Hang on, I didn't
write it down. I'll take a screenshot and I'll send
it to you. There you have it, my friends. Uh,
So we'll have more on baseball coming up, because again
we had the big trade to break down tonight. The
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second biggest name besides Soho, besides Soda rather not Luis
Soo besides last Soho now available on HBO Max. Pretty good.
So Uh, the biggest name besides Soto is now off
the market. But Patrick Mahomes had a pretty interesting and
(04:30):
stand up day even though it's just another day of
training camp right now, the Kyler Murray saga has been
a big deal all week long. Right We started the
week by finding out the Kyler Murray when in part
of his two and thirty million dollar extension, he was
gonna have an independent study clause put into it, whereas
he needed to spend four hours a week away from
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facilities prepping for the upcoming opponent. The Cardinals knew that
he wasn't going to do it, so they wanted to
put it into his contract. Okay, they put it into
the contract. It didn't play very well. Surprise. Only the
Cardinals can take a hey, we just signed our franchise
quarterback to a huge deal. It's gonna tie them to
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us forever and have it turned into an absolute dumpster fire.
Only the Cardinals. But that's what happened because now Kyler
Murray looks like a guy we know that doesn't work hard,
and the Cardinals still wanted to give him money even
though they were unsure about him. It was not a
great situation. Then the Cardinals tried to make it a
little bit better because the announcement comes yesterday that they
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are taking that clause out of the contract. There's no
longer gonna have to worry about doing that pesky studying.
They're not gonna put the clause of Kyler Murray having
to study extra time away from the facility into his
contract to be able to collect that two thirty million dollars. So, okay,
everything seems to be done. Now. This is a big
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topic of conversation. We've all waited on and everybody has
been a big topic over the course of the week,
and today Patrick Mahomes got the question at training camp.
Now you gotta remember, this is Mahomes coming off the
field or coming onto the field, and he's answering questions.
This wasn't I need to have a press conference. I
want to talk about this. This is him getting a
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question about if quarterbacks like Patrick Mahomes, Kyler, Murray Lamar Jackson,
if black quarterbacks are treated and evaluated a little bit
differently than other quarterbacks. And this is Patrick Mahomes's answer.
I don't want to go that far and say that.
I mean, obviously the black quarterback has had a battle
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to be in this position that we are to have
this many guys in the league playing, and I think
every day we're proven that we should have been playing
the whole time. We've got guys that think think just
as well as they can use their athleticism, and so, uh,
it always is weird when you see guys like me,
Lamar Kyler kind of get that on them and other
guys don't. But the same time, we're gonna go out
there and prove ourselves every day to show that we
can some of the best quarterbacks in the league. He
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went on to say, look, Tom Brady, he is still
proving himself every day and proving that he can play
in the league. So it wasn't like he stopped after that.
He mh, you know Tom Brady still at that point
in his NFL career. Because Brady's a guy that's along
had the best work ethic or thought of his having
the best work ethic as an NFL quarterback. That's why
he's winning super Bowls when he's forty four years old.
When this story came out and Patrick Mahomes spoke, I
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knew this is gonna be one of those dividing topics
of of either one side is gonna be Patrick Mahomes.
I can't believe he's saying what he said. He doesn't
get criticism like the other quarterbacks do. What kind of
criticism is he talking about? He doesn't get criticized, And
then the other side is going to be, Hey, black
quarterbacks do have to worry about getting criticized like this
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that white quarterbacks sometimes don't. I knew this was gonna
be that kind of of of topic where everybody runs
all the way to one side or runs all the
way to the other. And you know what, sometimes the
answer is not at the either end of a spectrum.
This is why Patrick ma Holmes is Patrick Mahomes and
he has the reputation that he does and why he's
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the superstar that people love and people want to go
play with. He has asked this question, which is a
loaded question. Alright, again, he's coming off the field, right,
I'm walking on the field, I'm walking off. I'm gonna
start answering questions and you get a question, Hey, how
are black quarterbacks judge in the NFL? WHOA Okay, this
is not I've had time to sit down. I'm sitting
down with someone for a big interview. We're gonna talk
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about Kyler Murray. But clearly he had his answer ready,
knowing full well I'm going to be asked this at
some point. That's Prett's up. That's pretty heavy stuff, and
he gives an answer that encompasses everything that should be
about this question. Do black quarterbacks have a have a
stigma against and they have to fight past? Yes, they do.
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At the same time, are more quarterbacks getting a chance
opportunity now? Yes, he said, we're getting the chances now
to show that we're here and we should have always
been here. Yes, that's true as well. At the same time,
I'm not going that far to say we're so far over,
he criticized because he also understands that I'm making three
million dollars and Lamar Jackson's gonna make that too, and
Kyler just got two thirty million dollars. So he gave
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an answer, you know, and you hit it on the head,
Mike when you said it before. It was very presidential.
It was the way to say, listen, this is a
very serious topic, and I'm gonna tell you about the
serious things that black quarterbacks, what we have had to
fight through. At the same time, we have made a
lot of strides and there are good things going on
outside of it. But remember there are some times where
it's weird, where where some of the criticisms we get
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are weird and people are gonna run to both sides
on this. But this is how you answer that question.
This is why Patrick Mahomes is Patrick Mahomes. That's why
he has this reputation, it's why people like him, it's
why people listen to him, because this is not well.
This one way is right and absolute everybody else is wrong. Now,
this is one of those stories. There's a lot of
angles to It's not just one question where you can say, Okay,
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this is the answer. Now it's a little bit more
nuance and that some things are a little bit more difficult,
and he finds a way in his answer to hit
on all of them. I mean, it's on every single
part of the the question. Everything is about black quarterbacks. Yes,
there are things we're fighting against. No, I don't want
to say that we're all treated unfairly. You're always treated unfairly,
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because clearly we are getting treated better. Uh, do we
need to do better? Yes? Our other quarterbacks always proving
themselves like me and Lamar and and uh and Kyler
Murray are Yes. In fact, I'm gonna give you Tom
Brady's name. I mean, this is how you answer a
question like that. And I know the people, like I said,
we're gonna run to both sides. But this was about
as good an answer as you can get. That gets
everything across. And again it's why Mahomes is Mahomes. Yeah,
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it's nuanced, it's well thought out. It pulls all the
emotion out of the question and pulls it back into
a space of let's talk about the evolution of the
position and the challenges that were being faced and at
one point weren't being addressed. Now they are still strive
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just to be made and certainly some of the terminology
and language that is used sometimes associated with quarterbacks Mahomes himself. Right,
there was the anonymous criticism of him this week in
the wake of all the Tyreek Hill stuff, right as
people try to evaluate what this squad could look like
for two and it was well, a lot of running
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around in street ball. The term street ball is loaded.
I mean, we we just have to be realistic about it, right.
It is. It is not a uh, it's no longer
a you're playing football and you're evaluating on the fly
and and giving to the cognitive ability to keep a
play moving to get to your second read, third read.
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It dismisses all of that and goes straight into you know,
fight or flight instinct and just you know, the athleticism
winning out versus giving credit to all of the acumen
and all of the work that goes in to being
able to make said play and the communication that you
have with your wide receivers, etcetera. So so he had
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a little bit of that and in tandem with what
was going on all week with Kyler Murray. And obviously
the Murray has much more US specific language to it,
and the is rife for comedy based on that clause
being in and it's not making fun of him, to
making fun of a situation. The guy has shown he's
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a he's a hell of a player, right, we all
stipulate to that. I think even the biggest critic would
say he's had a lot of success and then you
obviously we have to see where it fell short and
go from there, right, and then that's where we're at
with Kyler Murray. But for Patrick Mahomes to lay this
out as he did, it's a challenge to people that
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cover the league and talk about the league and also
the recognition that you know, with numbers and with the
opportunities that have now been earned and are not uh,
it's not like it was twenty five years ago, twenty
years ago, hell, fifteen years ago or ten that you
have players that that do get to come out of
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the college ranks and becomes stars and make millions and
become you know, big faces for the league. And there's
a responsibility that goes to that, so I think in
his comments he he kind of grabbed everything into a
big hug and said, here's where we are. Let's keep
pushing this forward. Telling awesome, awesome stuff by Patrick Mahomes
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Happy Friday. That's how you answer a question like that.
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Mike Harmon. What is this song? Tie shirt? This is
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pure gold in the bag. It's gonna play that forever
vacation tie shirt? When do you go again? How long
the end of this month? All right? Wait? What out
my time off? Yeah? Might call him a quitner. Come on,
(14:14):
tell you, Yeah, he's gonna tie shirts in the point
in his life where he's got to go find himself, like, Hey,
I'm gonna take that journey of self discovery. I'm gonna
find that's him in the corner. That's that's what I'm
gonna do. Tie shirt. You're ready to go to the
desert tent and firewood. Let's go, Mike. You're welcome to
come Joshua Tree. All right, oh that's who you are
(14:36):
going there? You are going to take one of those
exist Hey, I'm gonna go josh Re Tree and find myself,
gonna purse incense. I'm gonna think about my life. Yeah,
singing all the end of the wild songs, bended knees,
No way to be go ahead? What what tie shirt?
I was gonna sound? We literally had the conversation off air.
(14:57):
I told him I was going to have a trip
to Joshua Tre So why are you actually surprised? Don't
forget the M and M S skittles are banned, so
so not going with Marshawn Lynch. Okay, got it? Uh, well,
have a great trip. Tip when you When are you going? Thanks?
At the end of this month? Okay, alright, very good.
Well next month, it's almost well it end of August month,
end of August you're going? Yeah, I thought was August. Okay,
(15:20):
that's right now, it's still July. I heard through me.
Still that's all right. Oh it's a big week. I mean,
you just kept posting all your senpie stuff, big backdrops,
and I don't I don't know how corporate would feel
about it, but you did it them in my new
Tears for Fears T shirt that I'm wearing. Dude, I
am right now, Dude, he's getting every dime worth. So, Jason,
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can I call myself a TikTok start now? I'm getting
paid for TikTok? Are you getting paid for TikTok to
wait to to to put TikTok videos about Tears for
Fears up? No? Just my own videos? Oh okay, I
thought like you would have to do it like you
were making like Tears for Fears are actually making money
on that? No? They better amy, Then you're a TikTok star,
I will I would say star, like there's a lot
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of people that never have to work again because they
post TikTok video. They travel with their own light, you know,
so they can stand in Fronday look at this. It's
gonna be great. Like are you at that level? Okay?
I'm not going to be that kind of guy. Okay,
but I will still call it because it sounds better
for the show. If you are TikTok star Alex Tysher
I got fifty followers, it's pretty good. No, you're a
(16:26):
TikTok star if you're getting paid a little bit. That's great.
Paid for those video guys. The video he took a
kick to the junk for a cappy's son and a burrito,
it's a seventeen second loop of him singing, everybody wants
to rule the world. It's a good idea, and I'm
getting paid for it. That bad way to go. No, no,
(16:49):
it sounds better than just you're on TikTok. Right, I
can ask you these questions. Yeah, you can't even spell
TikTok uh t. I seek it alright. So to night
in Major League Baseball, it was a very big night. Right,
we've talked about Aaron Judge. Tonight will be the night.
Aaron Judge clinched the A L m v P in
two thousand, twenty two July two home runs, including a
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grand slam the Yankees wint home runs eighty nine r B.
I s it's over, Aaron Judges your a l m
v P. And while this was going on, the Seattle
Mariners said, oh no, no, wait a minute, we want
some of those headlines. They make a trade for the
non Juan Soto biggest name at the trade deadline and
getting Luis Castillo from the Cincinnati Reds. The Mariners who
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started out this season you thought it was gonna be
a season just like the last twenty seasons where it
was gonna be no playoffs. But they catch fire. They
win fourteen games in a row. They're playing extremely well.
Not tonight, but they're playing extremely well. There in the
thick of the race in the A L. West. Are
there in the thick of the playoff race now when
they're not in the race because they're twelve games out,
because the Astros are the Astros. But they make a
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very gutsy move. They trade four prospects away. I really
thought one of them was gonna be Jared Celnic but
it wasn't. Uh So, maybe because the Reds didn't want him.
We don't want that guy. He's a stiff. Don't try
to pawn them off on us. When the Mets pawned
him off on you. But they make this move and
they give up three of their top five prospects in
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the system in the trade. And there's two sides of this.
There's the oh, I can't believe they did this. You
gotta save the prospects. And there's the hey, you gotta
go for it. Um. Yeah, the side of this to
be on is you gotta go for it. You're the Mariners.
You're not sniffing the playoffs in any year since Alex
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Rodriguez was playing for you, and Ken Griffey was playing there,
and so was Ja Buner and Ken Phelps. Get Ken Phelps.
So yeah, when you're in it, you gotta go for it.
And it's not like you went and you got a
guy who was over the hill. It's gonna give you
a couple of months. You got a guy that's gonna
give you a year plus here in Louise Castillo. The
guy is a great picture. All I gotta do is
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tell you, Jason Stark put up the stat today. The
only guy in Mariner's history with a better strikeout two
inning ratio and a better e R A plus is
Randy Johnson. That's it. Only guy in Mariner's history with
a better strikeout to walk ratio and an e R
A plus is Randy Johnson. So yeah, you gotta go
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get this guy when you can. Now you've become a
team and a threat for the playoffs, and you can
win in the playoffs. You've made your team immensely better
and you've taken nothing away from the team that got
you this far. You have a budding superstar that ever
we just calling Julio. Now that's a just one name guy.
Just that's it, no last name, don't need it anymore. Uh,
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this is when you do it. That's why I love
this move. It's gutsy. It energize as a team. It
tells the team, Hey, we'll go for it when it's
there for us. The other years it hasn't been there.
And look, Jerry Depotog got all kinds of criticism the
last few years, but what were you really gonna do
where you're ever really in it? So this tells you, hey,
we'll make that move. We're not afraid. The fan base
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is galvanized. Everybody's excited. Even in the future. If it
comes up next year, it's not well, we're gonna be
dumping guys the deadline. It could be, Hey, if we
need a guy. I just watched our front office go
get Luis Castillo, who was a terrific picture. So now
we're gonna go out and get him. I love this move.
I love everything about it for Seattle. Yeah, this speaks
to a long standing truism on the on the show,
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and certainly philosophically where I've been at all the way
along you you can take your prospects have at it,
because they got everything's got to go right right, Yes,
you do have the occasional can't miss guy like you
have with Julio right now at one right, sixteen and
fifty two at the All Star break, goes and and
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gets to this whole other level by putting on a
show in the home run derby. But now he's the
guy that you watch and say, all right, the team
is on the come and here you are. You get
rid of a number of prospects, right, three of your
top product. Whatever the odds that all three were gonna
become stars, the odds that one of the three was
(21:12):
gonna become a star, right, you've got an opportunity to
go and make things happen right now. It's the f
them picks comes to Major League Baseball. And certainly when
we talk about prospecting, and and nobody loves to go
through top one hundred lists more than we do. I
know you do it and see where your Mets prospects
are in a given a year. I certainly do it
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with the White Sox. And we always know that the
top is littered with Dodgers, that's just the way it works.
So for them, you've got an organization where since it
is Shark week, I use my old analogy, you take
a bite, right, Shark's gonna lose a tooth or two
in the process. What happens, They've got more at the
ready the next rowe comes up. That's Dodger prospects for you.
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Most other organizations do not have that. You do not
have that all right, next next group is is coming
up because you don't have that organizational stability, the longevity
with coaches and scouts and getting players ready for that
next level. For the Seattle Mariners, they're relevant for the
first time in two decades. We're talking about those names
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and for us we laugh, but you recognize how long
that is. Right, I have the I'm guilty oftentimes of
aging myself and forgetting that people are aging with me.
It's like that guy can only like, well know, and
we do that with you, Like look at NBA players
NFL players like wait, junior, are you kid mate? Like
Asante Samuel Jr. Is an NFL player really, but you
(22:41):
know what I mean, Things like that that that punch
you in the face for for the Seattle Mariners. The
stars we're talking about are long in the Hall of Fame.
They're guys that are long retired into that next phase
of what they're doing. And so when you have an
opportunity to make some noise, and look, you're not catching
individu and unless something crazy happens, but you're there, you're there,
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and you have an opportunity by bringing in a frontline
starter to make some noise because you need one great
start and all of a sudden, the rest of the
series gets thrown into flux. And I love this. I
love this for baseball that it's not one of your
traditional teams that are always in the playoff hunt that
we're always talking about in the final couple of weeks
(23:25):
of September, that this is a new team cracking that
list and going for it right now in Seattle. They've
got to be absolutely thrilled. Even if you you do
have the sticker shock of your prospects, get over it.
The time is now, go make some noise. Tomorrow is
not promised. Be sure to catch live editions of The
(23:45):
Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern,
seven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
Heart Radio app show. Hey oh, Tony is on the block,
but is he really on the block? The Angels, uh
are listening to offers for Otani. This has been out
(24:07):
now for a day or so. And yes it is
public that if you want Showhyotani, the Angel will listen
to your phone call. Will the Dodgers get him? John
Paul Morosi, Fox Sports one MLB network insider put this
out on Twitter just a few moments ago, saying that
the Dodgers have tried to engage the Angels regarding the
(24:28):
possibility of acquiring the superstar. However, a Showhyotani trade is
still viewed as unlikely. You know, well, that's the thing.
I'm gonna tell you so, and that's you know, listen,
it's Gavin Lux, it's Dustin May, it's a couple of guys,
and suddenly, hey, it's Showeyotani. Um, Shohyotani really isn't on
(24:49):
the block. He really isn't. Juan Soto is on the
trading block. Shoyotani is not. And the reason I know
this is because I judge by the reaction, uh when
the story came out. The Angels are gonna listen for
offers for Otani. There was no buzz. There was no
traction on this story like it was with Juan Soto.
Juan Soto turned down a big contract extension, the Nationals say, hey,
(25:13):
we we we could move him. Call us we're ready,
we are motivated. Okay, this has become a story because
teams are calling and you're starting to get names going
back and forth. But there aren't really names because what
the Angel is simply doing is they're saying, okay, we
just we have to worry about Mike Trout now for
the rest of his career. We told you the other
night with his back injury, his days in center field
(25:36):
should be over when he returns from the injured list,
because you want him to play as much as he can,
and you want to put those thirty five home runs
and a hundred twenty r bis and three batting average
in the lineup a hundred and fifty games a year,
you can find someone else to play center field. Um so, now,
if he's gonna d h what about Otani? Will he
play first? Babe? You're not good. You thought you were
(25:57):
going to compete with this team and you're not. You
spent so much money on on Trout and Otani and Rendon,
and here you are. You're gonna be dumping guys to
the deadline. This is simply, hey, we'll take phone calls
because if someone gives us a crazy, stupid offer, then
we'll look into it. If someone calls and said, oh
my god, here's our top four prospects and here's two good, young,
(26:18):
controllable players, you can have an entirely new, you know,
top six in your batting order. Well, then the Angels
would say, all right, now we gotta look into trading Otani.
But they're not gonna do it because they're not going
to get an offer like that. They're gonna ask for
the moon, and teams are gonna say no. Right. It
gets to the point for stars where if you ask
for too much, teams are gonna just unplug and go away.
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The Mariners made the trade tonight because they gave four prospects,
three of their top five, to the Reds. Okay, you
can't just compare trade to trade and say, because you
got this in this deal, this is what this guy
is worth. It doesn't work that way. A player is
worth what someone's going willing to give up to get him.
The minute the Dodgers call and say, hey, what about
for Otani? What do you think about this? And the
(27:02):
and the Angels say, no, you saw what the package
was just for Luis Castillo. We want way more than that. Click.
Everybody's hanging up. Same thing with the Nets and Kevin Durant.
We want three first round picks and a superstar and
another good player and two other good players in the rotation.
Teams are going no, sorry, not doing it. Um. This
is not a case of Otani really being on the block.
(27:24):
This is if someone calls us with a stupid offer,
we will consider it and maybe we'll move on for him,
because he didn't give us the warm fuzzy today when
he was asked about being on the trading block, he
just said, I'm an angel for now. That's all I
can control. Eventually, could they trade him? Yeah? Are they
gonna find a way to trade him somehow in the
next three or four days? I I don't see it.
This is just a show thing in case someone wants
(27:45):
to call with something crazy. Yeah, you want to blow
them away by coming up with all sorts of prospects,
a couple of major league ready people, uh and whatever whatever.
The other accoutrements you you can do. I have at it.
But I think part of it is the the pressure
out there, right because it's being been such a talked
(28:06):
about event of theoretical we've asked the question for the
last couple of weeks. Could they should they? You know,
from a business standpoint, I mean that that is one
money generating individual, and right now, that's where the Angels are.
They're not in winning mode. They're in revenue mode, which
is what they've been forever, right that. And that's the
(28:29):
problem here is that there's no path to winning. So
if you're the Angels, yeah, you'll take the calls. But
do any of those deals get you closer to winning? No,
And they also take away your most prized player who
fills stands where people take trips from overseas, from nations
(28:50):
all over this world in large groups to come watch
him hit and to watch him pitch, yeah, and the
other stuff of southern California, but to the tune of
over three point two million people per year right now,
So no, uh, you're really gonna have to convince Artie Moreno,
this is a big deal. He's not sending him away
(29:10):
just because the ultimate goal for a show. Hey, O,
TONI is to win. He doesn't care about that Twitter
and out about a fresca. Mike, It's swollen dome. The
Jason Smith Show with My best Friend Mike Harmon coming
up next, Hey, Happy Friday. We're gonna end with two
crazy NFL stories from training camp earlier today, one involving
(29:33):
an aeron pass and one involving an aeron kick. It's
next right here. Fox. Be sure to catch live editions
of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at
ten pm Eastern seven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
and the I Heart Radio app Fox Sports Radio. The
Jason Smith Show with My big Friend Mike Harmon. Okay,
(29:56):
can you guys hear me at from the Fox Sports
Radio studios. Um, you know, look, it's Friday. We've had
a lot of fun. We've talked about some great stuff
involving Patrick Mahomes and and the potential trades in Major
League Baseball and a great move the Mariners made. But
with NFL training camp in full swing, ah, we'd be
(30:18):
remiss if we didn't get to a couple of really
big stories involving people who are hit by arrant Football's
uh the Jaguars today cut a kicker who missed a
bunch of kicks in practice, one of them hitting a bystander.
(30:39):
Andrew Melvis from Iowa State was in camp and he
missed three field goals. One of them he missed so
badly that he hit somebody hit in the shoulder with
a kick that Melvis pulled wide. Oh it wasn't just
any old person. He hit former Dallas Cowboys head coach
and training camp hard knocks are Dave Campo? What are
(31:02):
the odds? And really not only do you drill someone
with an errant kick and you're from all reports he
wasn't close all day. No, No, that's the thing. If
you're getting bounced this early, I mean, one, it's not
for hitting Dave Campo, but it's indicative of a much
(31:25):
larger problem. Wow, what a day you at, Dave Campo.
I mean, it is since it is the summer, we're
getting close to hard knocks. It is Dave Campo time.
But I mean, really, Dave Campos working in local radio
now Dave Campo when he got hit, and again because
I like the story, because well, I mean, I'm glad
(31:45):
he's okay, but it also gives me a chance to
do my Dave Campo impression, because I'm one of the
few you are that has a Dave Campo impression hanging.
Here's my Dave Campo. You're ready in Dave Campo, and
I gotta go back to hard knocks to do it.
Throughout to hard knocks. Drew Henson is a heck of
a football player. There you go, that's Dave Campo. Camp
(32:07):
that damp way to make that happen. Also in the
news today for hitting someone. Uh, it's it's look, it
was it was great. Uh, it was great stories all
all day long. I'd like seeing the Cadarius Tony is
is starting to get some run now here with the Giants,
and if you and I stay healthy, he'll be interesting.
(32:30):
You and you and I have him on our Dynasty team.
So I'm glad he's uh, he's he's getting he's getting
some pretty good reps um. But uh, Daniel Jones in
an errand pass hit somebody on the sidelot practice today. Yeah,
it's not the headlines you want, right, Look, you'd rather
(32:52):
have it be He went one of four in red zones. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
with his accuracy, he was a little high whatever um,
this this, this, this is not good. Yeah. No he
hit no, no, no, he hit a fan with him
with a wait called a misplaced pass. That's what that's
(33:17):
a good pr person, right, you know. And that's the
thing is that everything in camp is blown up because
we don't get to see it. Right. We talked this
a little bit last night. You don't get to see stuff.
So everything that happens is amped up times fifty. And
this is Daniel Jones hit a fan. And you're picturing
him just running around and throwing the football like away
(33:39):
from the receiver and maybe backwards and into his own
end zone and hitting somebody and Dave Campbell like sitting
in the stands near the tunnel and somehow he gets
hit with a football like this is how bad? Is Look?
What ended r G three's career in the NFL. What
was the biggest thing. Obviously he was on a downward turn.
He started out eight, but he had too many injuries
(34:01):
and he had a lot of issues in Washington. But
what ended it when he when he was in camp
with the Ravens and the report that he threw a
pass so far out of the end zone that it
hit Reporters who were fifteen twenty yards back of the
end zone. It was like, how do you hit a
guy like that? And that was like the beginning of
the end for him. That's what I knew. He's only
gonna be in the league so much longer. It's an
(34:22):
embarrassing story. Now. Meanwhile, what was he doing. He was
told by the coaches, listen, you throw it away. He
was emphasizing, I know, to throw the football away when
that happened. So when I'm in the red zone, I
can throw this five yards out of the end zone.
But I'm gonna show you I can throw it. I'm
gonna throw it thirty yards out of the end zone.
And it's embarrassing when it hit somebody because that's the
story you get. But this is what happens in training camp,
(34:43):
and it gets really embarrassing. So, yeah, when you have
a kick that hits a former head coach so bad, Yeah,
you're gonna get cut. When Daniel Jones hits another fan,
it's uh, Daniel Jones is terrible. He's gonna suck. What
are we gonna do? This is like what life is
like right now. In training camp. That's hit You ride
the highs, you see the lows, and occasionally some subruder
(35:04):
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