Full Show Podcast: 14 June 2024

On the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show Podcast for Friday 14th of June, the Government are putting out the idea of being able to go 120kmh on the open road, and do we have a solution for the gender pay gap? 

Darleen Tana update alert! Or lack thereof... but you asked and we delivered. 

Tim and Kate Wrapped the Week, and Kate finally got her chance to call out Mike's crap from the week. 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. The
Mic Hosking Breakfast with Avida Live, the Age You Feel,
News Talk, zedb.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Welling and welcome from the old. Here we go again, files,
gender pay gaps and back we look with the new
ideas around speed limits. We got our Trade minister on
to get us an inside word on whether anything tangible
is going to come out of this China visit at
the moment. New ideas around Kiwi Saber got new details
on these youth boot camps that start next month to
me and Katie rock Up as the Murray Olds and
Rijno Pasky, Welcome to Friday, seven past six, two hundred

(00:32):
and eleven billion dollars. That's a lot of money. It
is what it will cost the Australians in lost productivity
and revenue as a result of their government panicking over
reaction to the mass arrival of people by immigration. So
such was the panic they started capping numbers. In capping numbers,
they appeared to have made a mess of it. Now,
if you follow Australian politics, they make a mess of
a lot of stuff at the moment. But that's another story.

(00:53):
And want to watch later on this year if they
go to the polls and the alban Ezy government turns
out to be a one termer, but by the capping
of the numbers, they've turned them a great into a
political game, not a business one. You need immigration for
skills and labor. Of course, by not meeting labor demand
kurtail your growth. It's an open question as to whether
we are doing the same thing. The floodgates were open here,
of course, way too late, and then because it was

(01:13):
way too late, the panic ensued and we let in
all sorts of people, some of whom we wanted and needed,
many of whom we didn't. Same reaction here upset. Now
there's a group, it seems, in all societies, Western societies anyway,
who were edgy about people arriving in their country. Politicians
read that and they react. The WHIY recruitment survey out
this week suggested skills gaps are still an issue if
you can believe it in this country. In fact, twenty

(01:33):
five percent of employers said it was worse now than
it had been, which is hard to fath them, but
it is nevertheless of reality and hands on deck is
a very direct link to growth, and I doubt anyone
disputes we need growth right now. Another question for us
that Australia doesn't appear to grapple with his demand. Do
we actually still want to come here? Or do people
still actually want to come here? The truly talented and

(01:55):
the skilled have a world of choice. Are we still
on their list? Anyway? In Australia the price of paying
politics with all of this is they've worked out this
week two hundred and eleven billion dollars. So on one hand,
the PM keeps the punter happy who doesn't like immigration.
On the other, businesses are screaming for staff as they
watch the bill mount for things they can't do. This
is where leadership comes in, you see. Real leadership is

(02:17):
about making the right decision, not always the popular one.
Real leadership is about hanging tough when the screamers and
moners are at their loudest. At two hundred and eleven billion,
old Elbow doesn't look like he's the.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Goods news of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Well, I've hit the ground running in Italy at the
G seven.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
I remember when I introduced infrastructure bills home. They said
we couldn't get it done. It was only a three
hundred billion dollars and we got a past and it's
really having an imtag. But this is bigger than that
in a sense. It's what we're talking about in the world.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, that's only a trillion dollars Anyway. Rishi is also there,
and you hope he doesn't leave early, but he does
have the old vote on his mind.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
Cutting tacts for people in work, cutting tacts with people
who are self employed, cutting tw for people who are
buying their first home, cutting tax of pensioners, and cutting
taxes for families. That's the type of country I want
to believe a build because I believe everyone should keep
more of their hard earned money.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
And he's spooking that because Labor launched the manifesto.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
Wealth creation is our number one priority. Growth is our
core business, the only route to improving the prosperity of
our country and the living standards of working people.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Meantime, the lib Dems sick of falling off autocraft. Did
they turned up it in assault?

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Course?

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Do tell us the Tory Craig Williams, the bloke who
bid on the election before the election was called, is
in deep trouble.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
If someone knows the outcome of something.

Speaker 5 (03:37):
It seems to me morally questionable to put a bet
on it if they know the result of that outcome
that it looks like he did.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
And the the resent authorities are going to look into
it quite rightly, stateside, Trump is beck in Washington, which
hasn't pleased all the Republicans.

Speaker 6 (03:51):
Foreigner President Trump has a perfect right to talk to senators.
I don't make anything of it. It just shows that
a number of my colleagues are still in thrall of
the Trunk cult.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
And then we have Craig. Craig walked from Scotland to
Germany to.

Speaker 7 (04:07):
Unal reasawareness for men's mental health. I think it's such
a big esha twelve men a day at the moment,
take it on lease in the UK. You know in
seventy seven percent of men in the UK see that
they've suffered with it on mental health.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Finally, Chinese military history buff has picked up a bargain
at a neighborhood event. So the man's called Shang, he's
only identified as Jang. Thought he was buying four books
for a buck, and then he got them home and
because of his history knowledge in the military, he realized
there were actually confidential documents and called the Ministry of
State Security. So so far he's refused to say what
those documents are about, but they have been returned to

(04:38):
the government. That as news of the world and old
secrets in the ninety Yeah, that manifest who out of labour.
By the way, it's all pro business and prioritize in
wealth creation. So what have they got? New publicly owned
energy companies, a ban on awarding new north sea oil
and gas licenses? Where have we heard that before? Reducing
patient waiting times? Where if we heard that before? And
renationalizing most passenger rail service, among other stuff. Twelve past six.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Gone my costing breakfast.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
If you're following the Elon thing and where he blends
with ninety billion dollars that they agreed to in twenty eighteen.
By way, have a bit of a pay packet, so
the shareholder voters on as we speak. They're also wanting
to move their headquarters to Texas. He's claiming this morning,
he's been spreading this morning that he's got it. It's
going to pass by a mile and we're all home free.
So fifteen past six from JM I Wealth Andrew Callah,

(05:28):
good morning, very good morning make retail numbers. We're not
spending like the We're not spending like drunks, are we we.

Speaker 8 (05:36):
Are not spending like drunks. In fact, to the probably
the understatement of the morning, the retail slump seems well entrenched,
doesn't it weird old recession because employment rates are still
sort of quite high. But look, let's let's wallow in
this particular bit of misery for a few minutes showing up.
But before we do, I'm going to get some positives

(05:56):
in this morning. The share market had a good day.
Yes it was up over one percent, but right that
aside into the pit. Yeah, Earlier this week I talked
about the A and Z releasing their card spending data.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
That's sort of there.

Speaker 8 (06:08):
They're fairly chunky slice of the retail spending pile. Let's
look at the whole thing. So the value of spending,
not inflation adjusted, decreased one point one percent in May
from April. So your annual change now down one point
six percent. So that represents a spending decrease from month
to month of sixty nine million dollars. Four straight months

(06:31):
of declines there in the If we look at the
quad are called the core industries fell zero point eight percent,
down one point seven percent. On an annual basis, that's a
forty eight million dollar fall. So look, look the trend.
If we look at the overall trend that is now down,
and that's before adjusting for inflation of course, for population,

(06:51):
so on a per capita basis, the numbers would look
just horrible. Just looking at some of the categories. Hospitality
down two percent, vehicles might down four point eight percent.
You'd have to think that the car dealers out there
will be noticing this now too. By industry services sector
showing a big four five point eight percent, there's a
fair bit of discretionary spending in there, things like personal care.

(07:15):
Spending on groceries on a relative basis is holding up
pretty well because well, we have to eat, don't we
look collectively now we're making decisions about what we spend
money on because utilities, mortgages are costing us more. Look,
my god, you start thinking about this. There's no short
term fix here either. This doesn't sort of turn around
next month unless the tax cuts on July the first

(07:38):
make a difference, which seems sort of unlikely because people
will probably hoard.

Speaker 9 (07:42):
Some of that.

Speaker 8 (07:43):
So at the moment, the sort of the catalyst for improvement,
The panacea for all this is lower interest rates, isn't it.
But we need to start thinking about what that actually
looks like. When does it happen and what does it
look like? How much actual difference will a twenty five
basis point cut to the OCR make to household decision making.
I mean, probably does a lot for confidence, doesn't it,

(08:05):
which is important. But remember monetary policy has a lagged
effect as well. Of course, the arbens may cut aggressively,
but if they do, it's because they won't be afraid
of reigniting inflation. So you think about the environment they're
cutting aggressively into, because you're doing that probably into an
environment of rising unemployment, lower government spending. So look, it's

(08:25):
a it's all it's not great.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
No, it's just no, it's not great, Andrew. And then
we come to the job mark and it's not great either.

Speaker 8 (08:32):
Oh, it's just so much better job ads. This is
the pet and Z'd seek employment report. Job ads have
fallen sharply, so seek job ads for May fell four
point eight percent, So four point eight fewer job ads
in May than they were in April. But that follows
a four point nine percent fall in April as well,
So the annual get this monkey, the annual decline in

(08:53):
job ads is now thirty point five percent, So outside
of the COVID lockdown period, jobs ads are at their
lowest level since February two thoy and sixteen. So you've
got fewer job ads. That's because there's less demand for labor.
The ratio of job applicants per job is now sixty

(09:13):
nine percent higher than it was a year ago. Some
of the larger declines we're seeing in construction jobs also
consulting in strategy. Not a great time to be a
consultant or a strategist. They're down twenty four percent. Those
construction job ads are at their lowest levels since January
twenty fourteen, So that's over ten years just inside the

(09:35):
Aussie unemployment rate.

Speaker 9 (09:36):
What did it?

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Do?

Speaker 10 (09:36):
You say?

Speaker 8 (09:36):
Make it fell? The unemployment rate, yesday fell in Australia,
went from four point one per four But I'm going
to try and finish on a silver lining. There is
one in here somewhere, these standouts sector, mining, resources and energy.
Who would have thought up twenty one percent job ads
on the West Coast. You go Boom and geing bat
a lifestyle shift thirty nine percent gain in job adds

(10:00):
on the West coast.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
So get to your second nakayki dig for some gold.
You're you're in clover. Now what are the numb ah
the number?

Speaker 8 (10:08):
Well this morning, right now as we speak, the Dow
Jones are down one hundred and ten points about point
three percent, thirty eight thousand, six hundred and one. The
S and P five hundred is sort of unchanged five
four to two oh and the Nasdaq up small thirty
five points seventeen thousand, six hundred and forty four. The
Fortzy one hundred lost point sixty three percent overnight eight

(10:29):
one sixty three. The Nikke lost point four percent thirty
eight thousand, seven hundred and twenty only a small change
down nine points. On the Shanghai composite, the A six
two hundred Yes day gained point four four percent, up
thirty four points seven seven four nine. And as I say,
we had a great day yesday on the NZNX fifty
up one hundred and thirty one points eleven thousand, eight

(10:49):
hundred and seventy two. One key we dollar this morning
on the wholesal markers we'll get your point six one
sixty nine, US point nine two nine three ossie point
five to seven four to Euro point four eight three
four pounds ninety six point eight. Japanese gold is trading
at two thousand, three hundred and two dollars and breakthroughed
eighty two dollars and eighty cents.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Have a fabulous weekend, made Andrew kellerhre Jmiwealth dot co
dot m ZSCYM currently fixated in Britain with Taylor Swift
the eras two or three nights sold out in Edinburgh
this week. Earthquake readings nearly four miles from the show
Financial Boost of the UK. They're saying two billion dollars
in Edinburgh alone. It's two one hundred million dollars. We
still have money for concerts. Six twenty one heard News

(11:32):
Talk ZB the Mic Hosking Breakfast Mike, more important things.
There's Life snooker on Sky Sports.

Speaker 9 (11:40):
YEP.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
I've discovered that strange format, I must admit, and at
this particular point of the tournament, I'm assuming it's unfolding
over the ensuing days. There aren't many big names there,
so I'm waiting for the big names if in fact
they are there. Mike, my Australian business who's hurting currently
as staff can't get a rental in the main centres
for love nor money. Any key we're thinking of going
needs to do their homework. We touched on this a
little bit yesterday kelleher a moment ago talked about the

(12:01):
unemployment rate. They created forty thousand jobs in the last month,
so there are jobs there. But if you look at
the rentals. We'll talked to Murray about it later on
in the program, asking rents for houses have increased more
than six times the rate of wages. So not only
can't you get a house, you can't afford one. If
you find one unit, rents increased by more than four

(12:22):
times the rate of wages three point three percent across
all the capitals doesn't matter. We look in the capital
cities it is inhibitably expensive to rent. And that's before
you get to the business of buying. Yes, you can
buy a house, but you need to get access to
money and you need to have the sort of income
you can afford.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
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healthy all year round.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Now we've got a new Gladiator shown. When I say gladiator,
not the modern gladiators. We're talking back in the olden days.
It's called those about to die and looks at the
business behind the scenes of getting people to fight and
die in the ring to entertain the masses.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Life is of little value in Rong, living in the
shadow of the rich and powerful. But all of this
is about to change. Shouldn't have been taken from me.
You need money, lots of money. I will find it away.
I will be master of these games. I know what

(13:19):
they crave, and I can advise entertainment that will feed
that Cramy.

Speaker 9 (13:24):
Moment is upon us.

Speaker 8 (13:27):
Kill, I'll be killed.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
The game speaker.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
So the voice of Sir Anthony Hopkins. How old would
he been there? He'd be in his eighties one. He's
going fantastically. He stars as the former Roman emperor Vespasian.
You've got Iwin Regan, who played Ramesey Bolton in the
Game of Thrones, and you've got Tom Hughes. And I said,
who's Tom Hughes. And Sammy said to me, goes, oh,
you know Tom Hughes. He's been in a bunch of
cool stuff. And I said, name me one thing and

(14:02):
Sammy couldn't. So I looked it up and I saw
some of the stuff that he'd been in, and I
couldn't even looking at the name, I couldn't name it.
So he's apparently you know, it's got Tom Hughes in it.
Who eighty six. It's incredible, isn't it? Hopkins eighty six
years old? And still see if you do what you love,
you never work a day in your life. So out

(14:22):
on Peacock. Not that that matters because we don't get Peacock.
So they've gone and cut a deal here with Amazon Prime,
which we do get July nineteen for New Zealand, Australia
and a couple of other countries, probably a couple of
other countries that Tom Hughes has been to, but we
don't know. They're also going to go back to dropping
all ten episodes at once, so on a rainy weekend

(14:42):
you can go and binge them.

Speaker 9 (14:44):
Right.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
So we got a couple of things unfolding this morning.
We've got the gender pay gap things. So the government
are now going to do a calculator as opposed to
sort of mandatory reportage, which was sort of the old
rule or a promise of the old rule that never
really came to pass. So we'll have a look at
this and new ideas around retirement.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
You're trusted home for news for its entertainment opinion and
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Speaker 2 (15:08):
He'd be we were mentioning earlier on at the start
of the program. Trump has been back in Washington and
day to round up a few Republicans and get the
ball rolling in between court dates, of course, and here's
what he had to say. He was talking about the
party being unified.

Speaker 11 (15:20):
This is an outstanding group of people. I'm with them
a thousand percent. There was me a thousand percent. We
agree just about on everything, and if there isn't, we
work it out. And I've had a really great relationship
with just about everybody here, with everybody here, just about
all of the Senators, and if it wasn't fantastic, it

(15:42):
gets worked out.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
The economy is going to be what it's all about
at the end of the day. But it's not about
the economy. The Democrats hope it's about abortion, but of
course the Republicans hope it's about the border.

Speaker 11 (15:52):
We're going to have people come into our country, but
they're going to come in legally. They're not going to
pour in from prisons all over South America and all
over the world. And it's not just South America, by
the way, it's all over the world. And we're not
going to have them pour in from mental institutions, which
is where they're coming from. Large numbers, and large numbers
are terrorists and we're.

Speaker 9 (16:10):
Not going to have this.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
After the feed yesterday too, we had a word on inflation.

Speaker 11 (16:13):
We don't have success right now. We have inflation that's
killing everybody. We have levels of inflation that nobody's seen
for They say forty two years, they say fifty three years,
and they say seventy five years.

Speaker 9 (16:26):
I would say.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Probably all of them are wrong.

Speaker 11 (16:29):
Probably we've never seen levels like this before.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
And we're going to end that.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
It literally doesn't make any sense and is wrong. Yes,
But nevertheless, I'm sure he'll do a great job if
he wins. Now back home, it's twenty two minutes way
from seven more from America by the way, shortly with
Richard Donald, but the old gender pay gap issues back
this morning with the news of a new government. Back
to calculator. It replaces the previous government's reportage regime. Dame
Theresa Getting is with us on this one. Very good

(16:56):
morning to you, good morning, rigging warm congratuate relations on
your award the other day too, by the way, that must.

Speaker 8 (17:02):
Have been quite something, so much it was.

Speaker 12 (17:04):
It was really special.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Now the role of if you had to choose between
reportage and a calculated do either of them solve the problem?
And if you favored one, which is it?

Speaker 12 (17:14):
Okay? Well, I was actually at the group of business
leaders in Willington Use today when mister Upston announced this
and it was very well received. So their linked Mike,
that's not that's not a real question as to choosing
that because why is this important? Why was the governments
announcement well received yesterday? Because all the CEOs in that

(17:34):
room were grappling with measuring their gender pay gaps and
what to do about it when they knew what it was.
And this isn't you know, some sort of PC nonsense.
The context of that meeting was led by OS and Andrews,
CEO Transpound, James Cordicio Powerco. It was how do we
supercharge the electricity industry, which is one of those industries

(17:55):
when used in is world leading and where it could
absolutely drive the economy even more. And one of the
things they're grappling with is that there's not enough woman
in that industry. It's very well dominated. So they let
a sector review looking at what to do. The first
thing they did, but one of the first things was
measured the gender pay gap, which in their industry is
twenty percent. So all the seas in are roomor grappling

(18:17):
with this, but they're all doing it a different way.
And so this tool is very working with business. It's
not just a government thing doing it to us. It's
working with business. It's actually going to help all those companies,
all those CEOs are already doing it and make it
easier for others who want to report as well.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Where's the artificiality line? In other words, and trying to
close the gap you do things for women based on gender,
not on skills or developmental growth, all the things you'd
normally operate under.

Speaker 12 (18:43):
No, there's no ceo in the room who would you know,
there's no ceo who would sign up to that. They're
doing it because they believe it's going to be the
best thing for their shareholders, for their staff, and for
their companies. There isn't really artificiality about it. Antony Watson
spoke yesterday about human behavior in the course of a year.

(19:05):
Men are more likely to push the highest salaries to
be offered other jobs elsewhere and say, well, I'll only
stay if I get more money. Women don't tend to
do that. So she was talking about the fact that
they now do midterm reviews to make sure that women
aren't disadvantages the year goes on. Those are real issues
for companies. They're not sort of some artificiality.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
How much of it's unconscious that is not? Yes, so
that's real.

Speaker 12 (19:31):
You're right, that's real. That was measured, that is then
measured that a few years ago working with our Mystery
of Woman, and quite a bit of it was unconscious bias.
Some people don't believe that it exists. But even if
you don't believe that exists, a good chunk of a
gender pay gap is unexplained. Doesn't all relate to women
taking time out of the workforce to have children.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
For example, is eight point six that hard to close?

Speaker 12 (19:55):
Well, it's been stubborn. It's been like that since twenty eighteen,
so it's pretty stubborn.

Speaker 13 (20:00):
In my book, most of them.

Speaker 12 (20:02):
Our whole live looked different from when they did in
twenty eighteen. But oh no, the gender pay gaps still
around nine percent.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Now that's to talk to you, Teresa. Have a good weekend,
Teresa getting a New Zealand business woman. Of course, it
is nineteen minutes away from seven basking like I hope
that that's do not take infrastructure lines from the China.
Look at the state of Sri Lanka and other African countries.
Interesting that the Belton Roads a program that we were
going to adopt, a looking to adopt in the premiers
here and of course we'll have the Trade Minister after
seven o'clock and I'll ask them specifically about that. Mike,

(20:29):
this recession feels worse than the only one I was
involved with, which was the GFC. Is that right? All
industries feel like they're being affected. We are civil construction,
no work that has never happened in our company's history.
Strange times, I tend to agree with you. I think
this is worse than the GFC. The GFC was credit related,
and this is not credit related. This is incompetence related,

(20:52):
and the fire hosing of the economy and the inability
to get out of it and the stuff that we're
stuck with and the bills that are going up that
don't seem to not be going up in councils and
insurance and stuff like that. And Andrews pointed out and
it was a very good point. And that is even
if Adrian said this after theon tell you what will
cut twenty five bases points, what does that change? Not much.
He needs to cut, then cut, then cut, then cut

(21:14):
then cut, and I just don't know when and if
he's ever going to be doing that. Seventeen to two
the My Costing Breakfast, Glenn and I are having a bit.
Bud's gonna front reporters shortly at the G seven, and
I'm saying, how long before somebody yells out what about
what about Hunter? And whether he has to deal or
that Glen's is never going to happen. It is six forty.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Five international correspondence with ends an eye, insurance, peace of
mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
And the bit's important because he's going overseas on holiday
next week and the bet is if I'm right, I
take his seat. So it's all the play for stateside.
Richard Arnold, good morning, morning, make before he does all
that he's done a deal of course with Zelenski, who
was also at the G seven.

Speaker 14 (21:57):
That's right. They're all taking their seats right now for
this news conference, which is running about ninety minutes later.
This after, Biden and Zelenski signed off along with the
G seven partners on a new long term security deal,
one which encompasses about an eighty billion New Zealand dollar
rescue plan for Ukraine along with the other G seven

(22:18):
industrial leaders Britain, Germany, France, Japan, Canada and Italy. That's
equivalent to around twenty percent of New Zealand's GDP. The
money would be in the shape of a long term
loan back by frozen Russian assets, so it would be
secured by interest from around four hundred and eighty five
billion in frozen Russian funds. Biden flew back to Italy

(22:39):
for this G seven summit just for a couple of days.
After attending the D Day ceremonies, of course, in France,
he returned to the United States and left again for
this specific gathering. Biden met privately with Ukrainian President Vladimir
Selinsky in Paris, and Zelenski back with Biden today, as
we note, about to appear once again in his trademark
military fatigues. No doubt, one figure who is having an

(23:02):
influence on all this, but who was not at the
Summer table is the aforementioned Donald Trump. While he was
meeting with leaders of the House and the Senate in Washington,
d C. For the first time in a long period,
many world leaders have been anxious over the prospect that
Trump could return to the White House and cut or
future US funding for Ukraine. Already, Conservative Republicans are split,

(23:25):
and Biden only got through the last installment of an
eight month delay that was for an amount of nearly
one hundred billion dollars New Zealand. Biden now is about
to speak. Let's take listen to what they're going to say.

Speaker 7 (23:40):
Coming up.

Speaker 14 (23:40):
Meantime, they are just signing some documents and preparing to
outline some of the details of this ten year security plan.
We will here I expect some more of the footnotes
in terms of this complicated negotiation that has been taking
place with Biden and his g seven patnas and hear

(24:02):
what they have to say. Momentarily, the two leaders now
shaking hands, Biden and Zelensky in front of an audience,
an international audience of the G seven. Patnas and Biden
coming to the microphone.

Speaker 8 (24:15):
Let's listen.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
S're the NATO, SUMN, Lithuania, the United States brought together,
I remember, the G seven to sign a joint declaration
of support for Ukraine. Twenty five additional countries joined us quickly.
Each agreed to forge a long term bilateral commitments with Ukraine.
Presidents Lynski and I have just now signed that agreement

(24:38):
between the United States and Ukraine. Our goal is to
strength to the Ukraine's credible defense and deterrence capabilities for
the long term. A lasting piece for Ukraine must be
underwritten by Ukraine's own ability to defend itself now and
to deter future aggression anytime in the future.

Speaker 14 (24:59):
Some of the funding going to weaponry, some of it
has been set aside. They anticipate for rebuilding efforts in
Ukraine if and when that time comes in the short
term future. Meantime, the strains between the US and Russia
are showing in other ways. Russia just sent some warships
into Cuban waters in an.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Echo of the Cold War. It's a four vessel group which.

Speaker 14 (25:19):
The Pentagon says pose is no immediate threat to the
United States. Still, it was greeted by a twenty one
gun salute as the convoys sailed into Havana Harbor. So
that's old school, isn't it. Also there is word today
that American reporter Evan Gerskevich, the jailed Wall Street Journal reporter,
soon will stand trial for alleged spying. Russian prosecutors have
provided no evidence zip for the espionage accusations. The United

(25:42):
States condemns the detention of Gerskovich more than a year
back is simply political. Putin has said he is quote
not closed to negotiations on this, indicating that he wants
a body swap, trading the reporter for a fellow named
Vadim Krazykov, an FSB agent in jail in Germany for
the murdering of a Putin critic in Berlin.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Only might go well, we'll see you next week. Richard
Donold stateside, I'm thinking, by the way this press conference
is shaping up, it's not a press conference per se,
that the structure of the press conference, he is not
going to be taking any questions. I think the BET's
null and void. I think no way whoa whoa, whoa, No, no, No.
The question was the bet was is he taking if
he's taken questions, how long before the hunter finding question
comes up? Was I wasn't I know. I thought the

(26:25):
bit was was he going to take questions? And with
the hunter current, so if he was never going to
take questions, then it was never going to be an issue.
So well, I mean, even if you win, you get
to go on holiday. So I suppose that works out. Well,
will the missus be relieved or I mean.

Speaker 15 (26:37):
I think she'll be a bit disappointed.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
I think you'll be a bit disappointed. Nine away from seven.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
The Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Talk said, Mike, gender pay gap doesn't really exist, and
how does one compare pay gap across industries? For example,
I don't see many women working in heavy industry ICEE.
Te mechanics, science, structural engineering, construction, plumbing, electrical, or as builders.
So what's the comparison nursing via plumber, early childhood teacher
versus structural engineer. Men and women naturally gravitate, gravitate towards
different professions, and I doubt very much that the pay

(27:06):
gap truly exists Terrence. You make a reasonable point, and
that's one that I side with to the extent. I
don't doubt there's unconscious bias about the place. But this
goes back to the famous age care case that a
net king was involved and where they basically compared age
to care workers worth mechanics, age care workers being largely female,
mechanics largely being men. They had to make that artificial

(27:26):
comparison because women want to work where women want to work,
and men want to work where men want to work.
So you've got the two things you've got is a
woman in a job that a man would be paid
differently for, or are women generally in industries that pay less?
And that's your real crux. And until you change that,
whether artificially or not, I just don't know how you

(27:47):
get around the problem. Five minutes away from seven, all.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
The inns are the outs. It's the fizz on the
Mike Husking breakfast on news talk s be.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
It turns out where are trained and exhausted in the workforce?
This is hell and it's been looking at everything from
mental health to the effective AI at the workplace. Forty
seven percent of us, so we're either mentally or physically
exhausted at the end of work every day. They've not
separated the two out, which is where the number could
be a little bit misleading, because if you trade it physically,
of course you're exhausted at the end of the day.
Sixty three percent of workers report feeling burnt out, with

(28:19):
excessive workloads being the leading cause, followed by personal demands,
a lack of support, and then a lack of recognition.
There's also the generational gap when it comes to work ethic.
Workers under forty are no getting seventy percent more likely
than workers over fifty to find it difficult to get motivated.
In other categories AI, We're aware that it's around the place. However,

(28:44):
at the stage, only eighteen percent of workers are considering
upgrading their AI skills to be more useful. Thirty nine
percent of people believe II will have a positive effect
on their industry. Health sector particularly bullish about that, and
parents are seventy percent more likely than non parents to
look who upgrade the AI skills? Don't know what's that?
God with the appearancesm went.

Speaker 15 (29:03):
Sweet, are you upbrading your AI skills?

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Well, I thought it was all just ask somebody as
Bobby asks sir. He asked, whatever, and then they come
back and do it? Is that how that works?

Speaker 15 (29:12):
Harry?

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Who washes my cast? He redesigned his van and clothing branding,
he said, using AI because he came in.

Speaker 15 (29:23):
And so now it's Harry carking.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
I don't know what to do, but I say, it's
a cool looking van there, Harry, I said, I like
your jacket. He goes, oh yeah, A I did that,
And I could have gone down the track of oh yeah,
how did that happen? But I had other stuff on.
Greg Murphy is going to be talking about speed limits,
a possibility of one hundred and twenty on the great
roads of this fine nation. The Chinese premiere in the
country heads to walk them today out of being Wellington yesterday.

(29:45):
Is I mean, what's tangibly coming out of this? All
very well to shake hands and go fantastic and you know,
deal with some of the angsty crunchy stuff as well,
but is anything tangible coming out of this? So we'll
ask the trade minister about that. And we got new
information yesterday on these boot camps, these youth boots camps
that are starting years of next month.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
The newsweakers and the personalities, the big names talk to
make the casting breakfast with Bailey's real estate altogether better
across residential, commercial, and rural. On News Talks ed BW.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Seven past seven. So speed change coming to a lot
of roads near you were also looking at the possibility
now of one hundred and twenty k's on the roads
of national significant The road safety advocate Greg Murphy back
with us on this Greg Morning Morning. Mike. Are you
broadly in support of this?

Speaker 16 (30:30):
Yeah? Absolutely.

Speaker 17 (30:31):
I mean there was a lot of changes that were
made that were need your reactions by little informed people
that just decided that there was a will just drop
the speeds everywhere and we'll save a whole of lives,
which didn't happen. It annoyed a lot of New Zealanders
with the lack of consultation, decisions that were made with
actually without consultation, and you know, there was sort of

(30:55):
you know, lots of damage that was done in that space,
and there was a lot of unnecessary changes that were made.
Belive that there is need for some change, and I
think this government realizes that. And there's around school and
the lights and pieces. But there was a lot of
speed changes that were made that were unnecessary and certainly
weren't justified.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
When you use the word consultation, you reckon if you
pold New Zealand as they back you broadly on the
sort of thing change that has come.

Speaker 17 (31:17):
Yeah, I think so absolutely, you know, I think I
know for example, there's that there was the road stay
highay Fi between Napi and Topaul was it was put
down to eighty k's an hour and the decisions were made,
and then the consultation papers came out and we all
consulted and put in submissions and found out later on

(31:38):
that decision was already made. It was a waste of
everyone's time. So you know, there was there was definitely
stuff going on there that it angered a lot of
the community. There was a lot of people that submitted
around that, and it was a vast majority saying leave them,
leave that speed alone. We need to do other things
to ensure better safety. But in CTA ignored that and

(32:00):
when a hit anyway, So you know, I think that
as I said, there's a need to look at speeds
in certain areas around schools, for example, are having variable
speed limits. I think it's a great idea should have
been done to start with. I mean, you don't want
to be doing thirty k through somewhere on weekends when
there's no one around. So you know, those kinds of
things needed better work. And I agree with the words

(32:23):
that David Seymour said in the release as well around
these kinds of things being made that just annoy New
Zealanders for no reason and we need.

Speaker 10 (32:30):
To do a better job of it.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Very well said. You have a good weekend, Preciret, and
you will have a good weekend because Supercows is on again.
Greg Murphy, Motor sport champion of course road safety advocate
monement is past seven Husky look into what might come
out of the visit of this Chinese premier Lee Chiang,
first visit since twenty seventeen. Of course, he's in Auckland
to day to meet the China Council, among others. Trade
Minister is with them, Todd mcclay's with us with us.

(32:52):
Good morning, make the morning. My understanding is he's traveling
with a large trade delegation. Is trade being done? Are
we bullish about this or not?

Speaker 18 (33:00):
Yes, very much. So you'll have seen yesterday we announced
our laud's the negotiation for our services upgrade of the FDA.
That's going to be really important code in New Zealand experts.
We want to go from currently a system that says
there's a list of things you can sell into China
for services, to what we call a negative list. You
can sell anything except where it's on a list with restriction,

(33:23):
and that's a really really positive step. And then there
are businesses traveling with the Chinese delegation w today in
Auckland with New Zealand. Businesses will be signing cooperation and
trade deals.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
What's all this worth and dollar tims?

Speaker 9 (33:34):
Do we know?

Speaker 18 (33:35):
Well, it's huge. You know, I've got thirty eight billion
dollars worth two way trade. Their economies growing by five
percent this year. That's four times in New Zealand economy.
You know, they're still really really really really big potential
into that market. But I think between the services agreement
when negotiating when that's landed, and the other cooperation agreements

(33:55):
around infant formula, Kiwi berries and then also they've trade
deal millions of dollars of the answer.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Are they bullish about their economy at all? Because being
I mean five percent, you're right, five percent of the
massive economy is a lot. But it's not what it was.
Are they bullish?

Speaker 16 (34:09):
Look?

Speaker 18 (34:09):
Look, I think I think they've seen this as with
many countries. There are some structural challenges coming out of
out of COVID, but they're optimistic and probably a little
bit bullish. That's really good news for us. I was
up there a month or so ago, maybe a little
bit more. There's half a billion middle class Chinese consumers.
They're younger, they're wanting to buy the goods and services

(34:32):
we produce. They're very interested in where their goods and
services come from, what that story is. And I just
wreck the New Zealand's really really well placed generally, but
this has to be seen as a positive visit by
the Chinese premiere. And you know there is more opportunity
for us in that market.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
The Belton roadside of the equation. There are money in
here doing stuff for us. Are we keen on this
or not.

Speaker 18 (34:54):
It's not something that's really been discussed widely, and you
know a few of the projects from many years ago
have been talk looked about for a long time. It's
probably not something we're progressing with as a government, the
Belton Road initiative. But aside from that, in our FTA.
We're very open to investment from any country of the world.
We don't say that we want it for one place
rather than another. If it's good for New Zealand and

(35:14):
it's going to grow the economy, it's worth considering. But
I wouldn't suggest to the Belt and Roads we're going
to be taking any steps forward.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Luction's comments, we're interesting fifty to fifty in the bilateral
fifty we agree fifty. We don't how delicate is that
type grow?

Speaker 18 (35:28):
Well, it's very important. I mean we have we have
things that are important to us. Take their death penalty
for instance. You know we've always been opposed to that,
no matter whether it's in China or in the US,
and we raise it with people constructively and respectfully. And
so it is important that we raise issues you know
that the New Zealand cares about. We're allowed to do
it publicly, we should do it directly. And so but

(35:51):
I would I would categorize and discussing yesterday as respectful
and responsible and actually warm in many parts where the
relationship works well.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
All I appreciate Tom McLay, who's our trade minister. This
morning fifteen minutes Paust seven, rapidly changing events, rapidly changing events.
So the bit was, does he get asked about this
is Biden and Zelensky? Does he get asked about Hunter Baden?
And when does that question come? Glintse it in Italy
at G seven, It's never going to happen. Ladies and gentlemen,
I present to you qustion number one.

Speaker 5 (36:21):
You're going through something that so many American families go through,
the intersection of addiction in the criminal justice system.

Speaker 8 (36:28):
But you're not like most families.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Was your son able to get a fair trial? Do
you leave the justice department operated independently of politics.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
I'm extremely proud of my son Hunter. He is overcome
an addiction. He's one of the brightest, most decent men
I know. And I am satisfied that I'm not going
to do anything I said.

Speaker 9 (36:50):
I advied by the jury decision.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
I will do that and I will not partner him.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Austin Nonsen nastily handle us.

Speaker 15 (36:57):
I mean she didn't chat at it.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
I think that had the they had the vibe of
a plant question to be perfectly honest, anything on the darling.
But anyway, I'll let you know how my holiday goes
and Linda Linda's physics.

Speaker 15 (37:09):
Show, I mean reading bad things about Barley Back.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
I'm not so I would be worried about how excited
Linda is actually. Maybe give her a call and see
if she picks up anything. Anyway, Mike on the Darling
Tanner investigation, the Greens must think that off Darling Tana.
We were on to them yesterday. What a bunch of
scurrilous little low rent as they are. I will give
you details shortly fourteen past the host racist interesting new

(37:35):
development in these youth boot camps which start next month.
Government promise, of course trying to tidy up the crime
situation in the country. So some of that detail for
you after seven and thirty Mentime at seventeen past Retirement
Commission has got a bunch of ideas to boost our
KIWI Saber pot Default contribution should be rising from three
to four percent. Employers match that they stopped short of
making it compulsory. Sam Stubbs, founder of course of the

(37:56):
QI Saber Schemes Simplicity is back with us. Sam, very
good morning to you.

Speaker 10 (38:00):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Her ideas and your ideas do they align broadly or not?

Speaker 10 (38:05):
Not perfectly? Might imean I think she wants contributions to
rise one percent, but if you look at Ozzie, you
know they're paying twelve percent. So the Aussies have got
five times our population, but they've got thirty five times
our savings. So we are savings, but we're not saving
nearly enough. But she has to introduce this idea gradually
because you know, everyone's gone through a cost of living
crisis right now. You know she was to say that

(38:26):
giving seven contributions were going she go from three to
twelve percent. Everybody would laugh. But that's possible, but it
just takes a long time. I think we should do
it about a half a percent a year and taken
awful long time to get there, but we have to
go there.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
What's your assessment of the eighteen years and the amount
of money people have got put away? And in fact
it's not as great as it should be could be?
Have we failed or not?

Speaker 10 (38:49):
I think we have failed. I mean when when Rob
mald Doing canceled, canceled this last time we tried to
do this, you know we would have had almost well
at least a trillion dollars saved by an So we
failed to save enough. I'd say this like no country
in the world ever says that they've got enough money
saved by their population. Maybe Singapore, maybe there's one example.
So everyone's always saving. You should it's saying you should

(39:11):
save more. But we're certainly a long way behind Ozzie
and a long way behind the rest of the developed
world in terms of saving for a time. And we
have to do war. We're just going to have to
do it slowly.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
And what about the government contribution. They've mucked around with it,
so they're as guilty as we are, aren't they at
the end of the day. Once you I mean the
thing about retirements that you've got to commit, you're in
and you're stay in.

Speaker 10 (39:30):
Yeah, absolutely, And look, the government contribution exists because it's
not compulsory. If it was compulsory, then the government wouldn't
have to incentivize people to do it right, And there's
about three hundred three hundred million dollars worth of incentives
which aren't claimed every year. So I think we have
to ask ourselves, you know, do we just bite the bullet,
spend a billion dollars in another way, make it compulsory,

(39:51):
increase it over time, or do we keep having to
try to incentivize people because the problem here, Mike is
that as long as it's not compulsory, the people who
most need it won't have it, you know, will there
will always be people who will not say for their time.
But those are the people that are probably most hasty.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Good, and so appreciate. Sam sam Stubbs, Simplicity founder. She
wants it round changes around the self employed, people on
parental leave, the soft compulsion, this is the auto enrollment
than the opting out, she thinks. Works. Withdrawals on the
houses for first home she thinks is okay. Only one
percent of members on average had withdrawn funds for first
time deposits. So that's I mean, that's part of the

(40:27):
argument as well. I mean, are you saving for the
retirement or a you're saving for a house. Then if
you argue you're saving for a house, is a house
part of your retirement. And so it goes Mark the
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seven twenty three. Time now to make the week little
piece of use and current affairs that's more popular than
a powerball split. Six Ways are the Warriors? Eight count

(41:53):
door A three on the bounds looking for better This
week Melbourne at Home came on This is yeah, e
you vote this week? Six a reality check for the
green obsessives when the young people are voting for the
other guys. If that ain't a wake up call, I
don't know what is. Farmers in the ets eight Fashion
common sense, oil and gas seven some more good old

(42:17):
fashioned common sense. Yes we want to help the climate,
of course we do, but there's no point of the
lightstone work petrol for see the ComCom weighing and yet
again sadly just alerts you to the reality that market
studies don't work. If they did, you wouldn't hear from
the ComCom. Banks six This is fertile ground and maybe
the politicians go where the ComCom won't or hasn't. And
as it stands in the pr battle, I'm not sure

(42:38):
the banks are currently on the right side of this field.
Days eight reminder what makes this country tech? Are the
christ you chain p show sex six better than nothing
and a reminder of what makes this country tick? Migration
two see Ken's leaving. It's a right of passage. I
get that, but this number is more than that. It's
getting embarrassing. Ram raids sex down eighty percent. Not that

(43:02):
you would know that, given the media's treatment of the
good news was nothing like the media's treatment of the
bad news. Tourism four. Someone high up needs to wake
up to this. Seventy three percent of where we were
five years ago is a straight up and down failure.
And we need to ask why one hundred and twenty
seven government wants to hear from us on increasing the

(43:22):
speed limit. I say, yeah, baby Kiwi fruit eight, record
Hallvos six good haul, but more of it going offshore
because the quality is up and that's good for exports rewards.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Four.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
See these make me uneasy. You can't find a bloke.
There are no clues eighty thousand bucks. People can't hit
the phone fast ed up. What's that tell you about
people in their motivations. That's the week copies on the website.
No one involved in the production of this claim any
accommodation allowance at all.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Pasking.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Zelenski was asked they've wrapped. But Zelenski was asked about China.

Speaker 19 (43:56):
If China hes al to view on it, it can
prepare alternative peace formula if we share common views on it,
like with globally with all the world, I think so
so if they share the same way to piece, we

(44:18):
will find dialog.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Okay, Mike, greetings from about an hour out from auckland
On in z far from LA. I'm not sure whether
you're short of interesting anecdotes this morning. I left New
Zealand Sunday night. Have been in San Francisco, Seattle, Boulder,
and Los Angeles in the final stage of due diligence
to buy a business for a company I lead. The
largest firms that he's been dealing with has product of
more than seventy thousand supermarket shelves across the States. Anyway,

(44:41):
is probably the most positive week I've had in three
decades of doing business in the States. The level of
positive energy can do warm spirit across everyone I met,
whether it be in business, driving an uber, chatting in store,
or serving in a hotel or restaurant or on a
plane was remarkably consistent. Even the TSA security guys were
friendly and even cracked a joke. I got on the
plane home feeling that despite the well documented issues people

(45:02):
in the US had hope for the future and had
a lot of gratitude for what they have. It was
a good five days being reminded to see behind the
global headlines. What a grave insight he sent that a
while back. He's probably landed now and he's stuck in
the queue at a Cookland airport, wanting to go back
to Los Angeles. News for you in a couple of moments.
Then we'll get into the business of these book camps.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
The breakfast Show You Can Trust, the Mic Hosking Breakfast
with our Veda Live the Age You Feel News togs
edb Mike.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
We just returned from a European holiday and which we
drive through Scotland and England for ten days. Road speeds
variable depending on locations, between twenty miles an hour and
seventy all speeds made sense. A small village is twenty
miles now seventy miles an hour on the dual carriageway,
separated most of the way, most of the seventy mile
and our roads are far worse condition than almost all
of our motorway. Surely at least one hundred and ten
are suitable. Well, of course, that it's all about attitude.

(45:53):
Mike did you know that the total and KII saber
at the amount is one hundred and four billion as
of the end of last year, and that's only four
point five cent at the total household's net assets. We
spent about a billion a year in tax breaks and
have been doing that for seventeen years. I wouldn't rate
that as a significant success. Michael Littlewood texted me that,
and Michael Littlewood, if you know the names a lot
about the sort of thing. Mike, you were going to

(46:14):
talk about the Greens investigation into their migrant abuse. Yes,
I was, and be patient. I We'll get there. Don't
you worry. It's all there. And it's really really disappointing,
you know, for somebody like Chloe who comes on this
program and goes, yeah, let's spitball, Mike, Let's yeah, come on,
I'll be all transparent. It turns out to be for
Yes as usual, Mike. Only saving the plan I got.
It's working my ass off until a mortgage free in

(46:36):
my house and rental, and then I'm going to buy
a camper van and live in that and get rent
from both houses. It's not about going twenty two minutes
away from eight really to the much debated after eight
tim kated by the way for Friday, and much debated
youth boot camp starting next month. The surprise, though, is
the offenders won't be detained for as long as we thought.
A leaked email from or rang A Tanner Riki says

(46:56):
they'll be in camp for just three months. The other
nine they'll be in community with family involvement in one
on one mental support. Billy Graham. You Foundation did a
review on the military boot camps. The chief executive, David Graham,
is with us on this. David, very good morning to you.

Speaker 13 (47:09):
Good morning Mike.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Broadly speaking, a boot camps an answer or some sort
of answer.

Speaker 13 (47:16):
What we know historically from the literature review that we
commissioned from Impact Lab last year that in the short
term up to eighteen months, there was reduction in reoffending.
After that two year period that went down to mill
pretty much, and soffending kicked back off after that two
year period.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
So it works until it doesn't work.

Speaker 13 (47:39):
Yeah, it works in the short term. The challenge that
we've got is that unless we get that transition period
white and this is what it all boils down to,
and this is not just with the young offenders. If
we don't get the transition right from a residential environment
back into the community. It's just too difficult for these
young people to stay on the straight than there.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Is that a family thing, because I noted in this
the in contact with family if they come from dodgy families,
isn't that part of the problem.

Speaker 13 (48:11):
Yes, yeah, it is. Yeah, dodgy families. You could, boy
could dig down to that. I think that it's not
just that though, if I think about the work we've
been doing out of the Nine Boxing Academy for a
long time now, and the research shows that if you've
got a good community, an attractive hook that brings that

(48:31):
young person into that community. So that box young is
a young person's choosing to engage in the environment, that's
the trick. But they want to be there. Will they
catch the bus? Will they walk down the street because
they want to be in that environment. If that's the case,
and they walk into that environment and there's a good
social setting there, all the positive air pressure, they've got
adults that they respect and look up to, it's actually surprising,

(48:54):
how Yes, albeit that the family environment might not be
so hot or it says that over the long run,
young people engage in those types of activities. I actually
end up doing all right for the most part.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
The one on one mental support. I'm reading the iring
and Tama Ricky think they said it's got to be
the same person, one on one, same person. I like
that and that seems to make sense. Is that fair?

Speaker 13 (49:18):
Yes, it's not easy to build trust with these young people,
and you're not fair enough. If you look at the
lives that these because have had to lead and the
things I've been exposed to, it's not very easy to
build trust with them. And so if we can establish
that through these military academies or history, any means, you

(49:38):
want to protect that at all costs, and that's going
to be central, I think for the information that we
can deceive, that can be central to supporting that transition.
If we've got a trusted person that can engage with
this young person, support them throughout the residential component and
then back into their communities, then at least on paper,
I think that that's not too bad.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Good. Okay, we'll see how it goes because it starts
next month and there'll be plenty of interest in it.
David appreciated David Graham, who's Billy Graham Youth Foundation Chief
Executive nineteen minutes away from eight to round out my
fruit report for the week, because I got myself immersed
in the abbos and of course Kiwi Fruit Record Hall.
Got some red ones the other day. They are hard
to get hold of, not many and the crop and
they export most of them. But I got some red

(50:21):
ones the other day along with the greens and the yallos.
Didn't get any greens I like about the greens, got
the gallows, got the yellows and the reds. Anyway, then
I got onto the abbos. Now the avo's not a
I mean, it's good season, not a sensational season, but
the quality is good. And because the quality is good,
it's going offshore, so we earn more money and you'll
see less of them here and you'll have to pay
pay three ninety nine the other day, and I got

(50:42):
told off because I got told to buy an avic
per and I got and I know that no, no,
well yes, now, well look so anyway I went there
and I was under instruction to get the abbo, and
I thought, well, because the first most nervous thing happens
is that the right abbo isn't any good. So I thought,
I know, by four cover myself off. I thought that
was smart purchasing. I thought by four one's bad. Three
more to go.

Speaker 15 (51:03):
So this is this with the twenty dollars.

Speaker 20 (51:04):
Note that you weren't able to spend down at birds
because they've closed down.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
Okay, But anyway, I got yelled at I did.

Speaker 15 (51:10):
The wrong because you didn't have enough money for its true.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Well, I put it on that plastic thing and that
they seem to accept that, and I just wander off.
They said do you want a receipt? And I go,
why would I want one of those? And wander But
did you get the receipt?

Speaker 16 (51:20):
No?

Speaker 2 (51:20):
I didn't, So it was all it didn't go well,
all right, all right?

Speaker 15 (51:23):
Well was she really going to make you take the
evocado's bear?

Speaker 2 (51:25):
It just didn't go well anyway. Now I don't know
why I'm laughing.

Speaker 15 (51:30):
I've had exactly the same thing epened to me.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
So apples we come to apples. Apples once again, like avocados,
the season which is are raptily and then inspected expected
exportable crop is eleven percent down, so not good. But
so they got about eighteen point nine million trays as
opposed to last year's twenty one point two, but a
little bit of lingering damage from Gabriel, which is interesting anyway,
But the taste profile, which is what it's all about.

(51:55):
It was the other thing. I brought the ambrosias for
the seventeen slash eighty year old going on fifty seven
year old who's increasingly a pain in the ass. Anyway,
I got four ambrosias and they turned out to be
and I picked those and I put them in the
brown paper bag. And the four ambrosures turned out to
be quote unquote a bit waxy and soft, and so
they got put in the bin as well. So what's

(52:15):
worse fruit that was not soft and waxy that got
put in the bin or avocados that are still available
to you. And the last complaint I got yesterday was
I'm going to have to own a lot of avocados
to make sure that they get used and we don't
throw yet more food out.

Speaker 20 (52:30):
I mean, you come on the program bleating about the
state of the economy, and there you go spending it's
not one hundreds of dollars on avocados. I can't help it,
expensive overpriced avocados.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
I'm under instruction and then.

Speaker 15 (52:43):
And the apples that you don't even need up eating.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
No, but I'm under instruction. And so the pain profile
versus the expenditure profile the two different things, and the
pain outweighs the expenditure. Anyway, where was I with the apples?
The apples are fantastic in quality, so we're looking to
send them offshore and get some money. So there we go.
Fruit and Bench report done sixteen to eight.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
The Mike costing breakfast aorry from it?

Speaker 2 (53:07):
How are you going to afford a house, Mike, when
you pay three ninety nine for over cars? These are
good questions. You want crunchy apples, jazz or envy. Look,
I'm under instruction. You don't understand. I'm not just free
glancing it. I'm under instruction. You need to get pigs, Mike.
They're great pets and good for leftover food. It's fine
if you're in the country, but if you're downtown your
neighbors think of a pet. Who's that? It's the pig.

(53:30):
Darlene Tanner, What hopeless disappointment. The greens are so we
ring them most days because you want some sort of
answer as to where we're at on this and the
last time we had Chloe on the program. She said
it was up was at forty three, forty four, was
up to forty five, six, seven, eight, nineteen thousand dollars
so far. Anyway, we just wanted a couple of basic
questions because when we ring, they go no, no, in
the fullness of time, it'll be very soon. Oh we

(53:52):
wish it was over, just like you, and I thought,
what a lot of pup. Anyway, so we call back
earlier on this week, specific questions. Here's what we sent them,
specific questions. What stage are we at with the investigation?
What's the expected time frame from here? That was sent
on Wednesday. By the way, what are the lawyer's expectations
for how long this will take? Are you getting daily
updates from her? That was my question, I said, Sammy

(54:14):
asked that question because I mean, you're employing this woman,
you're paying her hundreds of dollars an hour. At what
point surely you go, hey, Rach, where are we at here?
What's going on when you're delivering the report? How long
is this going on for Rach or words to that effect.
Didn't hear back yesterday, but yesterday morning, Thursday morning. At
one minute, I kid you not at one minute past nine,

(54:36):
one minute past nine, Chloe's next to the fax machine.
She goes, hit it now, hit now. No, The answer
comes in all that are the questions answered? No, The
independently led investigation remains ongoing. We will have more to
say on the matter upon the investigation's conclusion. That's the
That's what they've said all along, week after week after

(54:58):
week after week after week. How transparent is that? Apart
from not remotely transparent? He would they argue, if you
got Chloe on now to spitball, do you reckon? Chloe
would say, oh, yeah, we're a transparent party. Of course
you would. But they're not. It's all our money. So
in answer to your many many questions, wins this over.
You've got your answer, and the answer is inadequate. The

(55:20):
independently lead investigation remains on going. We will have more
to say on the matter upon the investigation conclusion. So
I revert to my original thought process, which was nothing
good goes on for this long, and the longer it goes,
the worse it's becoming.

Speaker 20 (55:35):
And if it is ever over, it'll be at one
minute pass nine on a Friday, probably.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
One minute passed nine on a Friday is what it
will be. But don't think I never sleep on the weekend.
And when you dick me on a Friday, I'm coming
to get you. Monday, ten minutes away from eight all
the my costing.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Breakfast with our three day news talk.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
See it is teven away from a semi final time
Super Rugby as the Blues take on the Bromboos tonight.
Then we got the Hurricanes chiefs in the Capitol tomorrow.
The Hurricane couch Clark laid Law is what there's clack.
Very good morning to you.

Speaker 21 (56:04):
Yeah, good morning.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Are you feeling good?

Speaker 21 (56:07):
Yeah, feeling good? Thanks?

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Yeah, your assessment of the town Wellington, the team and
how it's done this year and whither the city's got behind.

Speaker 21 (56:15):
You, Yeah, I think so. It feels set in the
last couple of weeks, the real buzz around town. The
players have been out and about over the last two games,
and we just talked about that Yesterday's a team we
feel like the support and energy in the town and
the city is it's right up there. So yeah, it's
up to ask to turn up tomorrow and put in

(56:35):
a good performance.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
Good any extra pressure given the expectations around you and
how well, you've done this season.

Speaker 21 (56:42):
No, I don't think so. I think yeah, I never
feel like when you're doing well, there's pressure that's more
when you're not doing well. So yeah, we're excited where
we're at, and as I say, we're looking forward to
getting stuck in tomorrow night.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
But have increasing talk around the Chiefs and the possibility
that they could roll you. What's your view of them?

Speaker 21 (57:01):
Yeah, they're definitely good enough to roll us for sure.
You know, I've had some people say that under the radar,
I'm not. I'm not sure the radars were working very well.
You know, they're a side full of what We've got
eight or nine players I've played for All Blacks. They've
got coaches that coach you know, the All Black fifteen
or the Mababy All Blacks, and there were a highly

(57:23):
cohesive unit you know, from the last couple of years
and made the final last year. So yeah, we're well
aware how good they can be when they get it right.
And yeah, as I say, well need to be ready
for that tomorrow night. I'm sure they're going to be
at their best.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
What about the Blues of the Brombies? Does it bother
you who you make in the final.

Speaker 21 (57:41):
I wouldn't.

Speaker 9 (57:41):
I would.

Speaker 21 (57:42):
I would be very happy to play either.

Speaker 10 (57:44):
It means you've got one.

Speaker 21 (57:45):
More week, doesn't it.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
Indeed, what's what's your view of the side of the competition,
especially giving the Rebels and what happened to them this
year being at the crowd, the TV audiences, all that
sort of stuff.

Speaker 21 (57:54):
Yeah, well, the Rebels is obviously really disappointing for them
and you know, their staff and players. In Australian rugby,
we've seen it all over the world over the last
few years, where you know, the professional game around the
finances has been struggling and we're not immune to that,
are we in the Southern Hemisphere, So you know, we've
been We've thought that from a tournament perspective, crowds, TV,

(58:19):
you know, it feels like it's on that. I think
we'd all like a bet of stability around, you know,
around the competition, you know, over the next couple of
years to again try and get that consistency, you know,
for the fans and for the years. You know, I
think that's important if we can, if we can find
that consistency and you know, and get the competition a
little bit more stable, would be would be helpful.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Yeah, well, see what's the weather in trek tomorrow and
doesn't matter.

Speaker 21 (58:45):
Yeah, we've got a little.

Speaker 10 (58:47):
Jim Hicky and our in our coaching office.

Speaker 21 (58:48):
So Tyler Blindell tells me it's going to be nice tomorrow,
so not quite so nice this morning, but it's yeah,
I guess that's what it is. You know, we played
and how they win a couple of weeks ago. We
played with a crownless and a breath of wind last week,
so it feels like it maybe something in between tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
Good on, you go well, appreciate it very much. Clark Laidlaw,
the Hurricanes coach. Good to have a Jim Hicky in
the office. I reckon, here's a name that conjures up
good times. Mike, you should have a special Monday feature
for the things people have tried to dick you on
at nine oh one Friday. If that is in the industry,
what we call a horizontal is an horizontal theme, and
don't they that's not a bad idea actually on a Friday,

(59:27):
I'm coming to get you Monday does sound a bit
aggressive or overtly sexual. I don't know. Some of the
things I say on the show are overtly sexual, but
I'm not aware of them at the time. Just a
lot of people later go that was overtly sexual. Micah,
not really, that's just me. I'm overtly sexual. Deal with it.
News is Next, Big News, Bold Opinions, The mic Hosking.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Breakfast with Jaguar, The Art of Performance, News dogs Head.
I've been looking at your.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Good in Holsten Jorn.

Speaker 20 (01:00:04):
We've been talking for months, never insane.

Speaker 13 (01:00:10):
This is.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Charlie Sylvester, her new album, which is called Isn't that
how XCX is pronounced under the new spelling regime that
we have in the world today, Charlie XCX. So this
makes it difficult because some people when they spell it
as a word and you think, oh, I'm trying to
go be call here, But then XCX is just XCX,

(01:00:33):
doesn't actually me or sounds for anything. Bratts the album
for sixth album co produced by XCX and longtime collaborators A. G.
Cook An Easy Fund. You see, I wanted to be
called easy fun Mike exy funny. How much different would
the show? But Mike Easy from Breakfast? Hey, how good

(01:00:54):
is that? Von Dutch lives up to the self obsessed
in the sleas hedonism of its namesake by contrad b
two b's are bumping ruy of the echos, the songs numbing,
ricochet between the points of love training. You see, there's
a job, the skill involved in that sort of job.
I'd love to know who the people are that write
that crap. Anyway, where did I write down the tracks?

(01:01:14):
Here we go eleven tracks and forty one and a
half glorious x.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
X minutes a week in review with two degrees, fighting
for fair for Kiwi business.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Sim Wilson's with us, along with Kahawk's be good Morning
to use too.

Speaker 22 (01:01:29):
Good morning morning, please start by just reclintic. Here's the thing.
I was just cementing this with man, it's so unfair.
The only person who has an outlet to rebut your
pile of BS stories you tell about us is Glenn
because he's a microphone. I see to Sam. Sam needs
to be miked up permanently. I need to be miked

(01:01:49):
up all week to be able so that we can
come back and rebut before friends start texting me and
responding to your stories, which are there's a busines element
of truth to them, but a lot of it is
just spend for your audience, and they lap it up
and they start texting you, and I'm like, good one,
were the butt of some more jokes than aren't even real.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
Who's your friend? Out them? It's so unfair, who's your friend?

Speaker 16 (01:02:16):
So don't you guys, don't you guys even have a
son in London? That is this how father goes.

Speaker 22 (01:02:20):
I mean, I just you know, seventeen years is not
a pain in the ass. She's a delight. In fact,
she would be the creams of the cream of the children.

Speaker 18 (01:02:29):
To be careful, so she's awesome.

Speaker 22 (01:02:33):
Second, we did not throw out the ambrosia apples because
I do not waste food policy in my house, so
we did not throw those out.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
So they're just sitting there rotting?

Speaker 22 (01:02:41):
Are they badly? I did not ask for I never.
I did not ask for receipts on the avocados. I
just said, who spends four dollars on an avocado? You're insane.
That's way too much money and way too many avocados
times four. Because I did not ask the receipt.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
Come to my rescue, Tim because I didn't want to
let her down here.

Speaker 22 (01:03:03):
I didn't understand his logic. He goes I didn't know
if they'd be good or bad because he doesn't need avocado,
so he's out of the ships. He goes. I didn't know,
so I got four. I said, yeah, but you got
all four the same. It's not like you've got a brown,
one and a green. He got four green, and like avocados,
they've all ripened on the same day. And then I've
got a call avocados because no one else eats them.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
Do you feel my pain?

Speaker 16 (01:03:26):
Bomb, Yeah, you know what. I feel everyone's pain at
the moment. I just look, he probably tried, tried to
do a nice thing, Kate. He's just a bit of
a dunderhead. He miss her stuff up.

Speaker 22 (01:03:40):
I I've been on well this week, so so I
did send him out the food Micael, which is where
he never goes. He hasn't been in years.

Speaker 23 (01:03:45):
And he so.

Speaker 22 (01:03:47):
Sorry, I'm so sorry to send you in food mic
and he was like, and he came back. I loved it.
It was so gonna say a good time. And I
chatted one's friends working to check out, and I bought
the sandwich and I bought that anyway, he free start
and he came home, was like, black breeze, don't even
know what you want to paint.

Speaker 16 (01:04:04):
Oh no, I got to have a shopping list.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
I had a shopping list, but then I had here's
my problem. I panicked on I panicked at the end
because I got a text from Hyperdrive. Hyperdrive were coming
around to fix a puncture, right, and.

Speaker 16 (01:04:18):
So wait, wait, you're shifting the blame to Hyperdrive.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
So I think it's entirely their fault because they said
they were coming around at three forty five, and then
fifteen minutes before they were leaving they were going to
text me, and then on the text they were going
to you can track the driver. And then I'm in
the supermarket and I'm thinking, right, I'm out of the
sauna and I've had my cold shower. I've got forty
five minutes to get to the supermarket to get the ambrosias,
to get the avocados, and I'll be home in good

(01:04:43):
time for Hyperdrive to turn up for my puncture. Anyway,
I'm halfway through the shopping list. Bet beat Hyperdrive drivers
on the row. He's five ks. Wait, wait, you're an
hour early. And there's no reply. There's no like, you're
an hour early. You can't do it. They've just got
to track the driver. So I panic and rush home
with some of the stuff that maybe I shouldn't look at.

Speaker 22 (01:05:02):
He depends thing about here's thing about how to drive
Tim and I'm glad you raise that, because that's that's
that's another good story. And if anyone follows Tom Sainsbury's
boomer dad on Instagram, this is Mike hyperdres So I
get punch in my in my tire and Mike says,
I'll get some people around to fix that. I know
there's some people who advertise on as you I've heard
the jingle. Get them. And I can hear him in

(01:05:24):
a study on the phone and he's like, hello, could
I please book a watch your name and he's like Michael,
and she's like, watch your email. What's your quote? And
he's like, my email. I think it's oh, my email,
Mike at No, Mike, no, Mike phone. Mike's not, oh
what's my email? And I'm like, oh my god, I'm

(01:05:47):
praying the person on the other end of the phone
is not a millennial. And then she's she sings in
the thing and he goes, don't leave me, stay on
the phone, stay on the phone. We'll do it now.
Because I don't want to have to bring you back
to Mixtus, to the whole thing. And then so she's
obviously saying, well, you're going to have to pay the
quote before we can come around. So Mike's like, Okay,
how do I do that stuff? I just press pay
critic card. Oh so I need my critics.

Speaker 16 (01:06:06):
But okay, this is why can we not? Can we
not throw hyper Drive under the bus because they were
clearly dealing with someone who diminished capacity. That's why they
came early, so they could help them to the car,
put them in a nice seat. They didn't watch what
was happening, make sure there was no discomfort. Maybe make
them a nice lukewarm cup of camera mile tea and
just everything would be hunky doors.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
Listen to that story. Even I sound pathetic. I need
to take a break. Tim Wilson k Hawksby, it's their team.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
Past eight the Mic Hosking Breakfast.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
Sixteen past eight the weekend Review with two degrees bringing
smart business solutions to the table. Okay, it's all good.
Hyperdrive can get you a new boyfriend.

Speaker 22 (01:06:48):
Than drive his head. And add in that segment, so
that was and have a drive when stayed to do
an excellent job. That I had a screw in my tire.
So they did a really good job.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
Yeah, they did a very good job.

Speaker 22 (01:06:59):
A lot of advice with you dealing with the elderly, they.

Speaker 16 (01:07:01):
Did a good job.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
Yeah, there's a lot of advice around the avocados that
you put them in a jug of water and you
put them in the fridge and they'll they'll keep for ages.

Speaker 22 (01:07:11):
Oh I didn't know that. That's great advice.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Okay, text, thanks very much. That do you have a
pay gap ginder pay gap at your corporate Tom, No,
we don't. How do you know that?

Speaker 16 (01:07:25):
Because because we is.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
There unconscious bias that you will placed him?

Speaker 16 (01:07:31):
Now, the whole unconscious bias thing, that's another rabbit hole.
But we evaluate, we evaluate people on the basis of
the role and and that's how Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
You see, but that's that's the sensible way to do it.
And unfortunately some of the people who argue for.

Speaker 16 (01:07:45):
It also the skills that they bring to it and
whether they're.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
Any get to the job. And so I get all that,
but the problem is that there's a gap apparently that
needs closing, and they seem to talk around in circles
about how to close the gap and what we do
and how we don't do, and I've never understood how
to close the gap. Hint, the gap hasn't been closed.
Whereas if you just judge people on whether they're any
good or not, and you pay them for what they
do in the skills they bring, the experience they bring, it,
all that sort of stuff that teams to solve its

(01:08:08):
own problem, doesn't it.

Speaker 16 (01:08:10):
I think it's good. I think it's good to have
outside reflection on on remuneration. So we've got We've got
an HR person that we bring in from time to time.
She works in the charitable sector. She knows what the
going rates are, she knows what's what's what.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
Yeah, fair enough to Katie, do you want to take
a victory lap on Tom Phillips.

Speaker 22 (01:08:33):
Well, I don't really want to take a victory lap
on it, but I just I just feel it's actually
just really sad the whole thing. And I just I'm
what you're referring to is at the time, I said
this is crazy and they need to find them really quickly,
and I got piled on by everybody saying yes, and
you don't understand reere on life, and you know, just
a dad taking his kids bushion. There's nothing wrong with that,

(01:08:54):
and you wouldn't have a clue you live in the city.
And it was just I took so much heat for
coming out.

Speaker 16 (01:08:59):
Okay, okay, it's it's just aggravated homeschooling. What's the problem.

Speaker 22 (01:09:05):
And now I'm just like, wow, I just had a
feeling in my gut at the time. There was no
good can come of this. It wasn't good. It isn't good,
and it's just deeply tragic. I think the whole thing.
They always you know something's up, because they don't just
suddenly turn up swarming the place for no reason.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
So so how was it? Did you ever get to
the bottom of how you explain the defense that people
because you did get piled on by a lot of people.
How what's the mindset that.

Speaker 22 (01:09:27):
The colleagues at works?

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
Let's name them. Let's name some of those colleagues. Who
were those people not going to name and shame? Were
they management? Were they the lower downs?

Speaker 12 (01:09:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (01:09:42):
They lower downs?

Speaker 22 (01:09:42):
They were fellow hosts.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
Here we go, just part of the vocabulary markers.

Speaker 12 (01:09:54):
They're the lower downs.

Speaker 22 (01:09:55):
We lower downs. Just just I don't know people. I mean,
I think people think that quintessentially kiwi thing is that
you know you can go bush and that you can
it's fine, But there was nothing fine about it. He
did about the mum's permission with that, you know, there
was everything about it was dodgy all At the time
I thought it was indefensible, but a lot of people
mounted the defense for him, and I just didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
The kids. The kids aren't even in school. That's just
straight up and down illegal. It's illegal not to send
your kids to school, full stop.

Speaker 16 (01:10:21):
And the character issue here too. I mean, this guy's
up on charges of aggravated what was the aggravated robbery?

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
Aggravated wound was last night saying oh, we don't think
it was him, Well.

Speaker 16 (01:10:33):
The cops do think it was made the charge.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
That sort of how the system works, isn't it really?

Speaker 10 (01:10:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
Hey, Ca doy, do you mind me going on holiday
with Linda?

Speaker 22 (01:10:42):
Who's Linda?

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
Wouldn't you like you lost the bet?

Speaker 16 (01:10:46):
You lost the bet?

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
Sorry, Tom, You and I are listening for the non.

Speaker 16 (01:10:51):
Listeners by the old bait and switch.

Speaker 15 (01:10:53):
Here we go, Linda Glenn's wife.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
Yes, so Glenn lost a bet this morning He's said this.

Speaker 16 (01:11:00):
You lost the bed?

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
I did not.

Speaker 22 (01:11:03):
I would play an excellent holiday. I'll give you that.
You would have a good time with loved you reckon?

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
That is that what they called a good time? Linda?

Speaker 13 (01:11:11):
Yeah, where they came.

Speaker 22 (01:11:14):
She would be a good time, Linda. I mean she
was clean. But I'm pretty sure how.

Speaker 16 (01:11:18):
Many drinks have you guys had this morning?

Speaker 15 (01:11:21):
This is getting into a dangerous area? Is if it
already already hadn't got into a dangerous area.

Speaker 16 (01:11:25):
I'm shut it down.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
I'm overtly sexual.

Speaker 22 (01:11:29):
I don't go. It's not long enough for all all that,
all the pain I've got to reback. Can you please
not say that on her as well?

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
It's just beyond and you dick me on Friday. I'm
coming to get you Monday.

Speaker 16 (01:11:42):
Okay, you know what, Kate. I'm getting the cold car,
so i'll be down in twenty minutes.

Speaker 9 (01:11:47):
Shot there.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
I've got a tidy mind. I've got to tidy myself up.
And can you get me out a peer of nutcrackers, Katie,
and I'll pack when I get home. Goodness, Tim Wilson,
Kate hawks me for another week A twenty two on
my costume.

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The best new season fruit arrived shortly are likely much

(01:13:06):
cheaper and for a time probably not too mature. That's
interesting joining you should say that because the Vigie report
I gave earlier on from my in depth study of
fruit and vegetables avocados included was the crop was smaller
this year, but the quality was higher. And because the
quality is higher, then you more of it's going overseas,
so it'll be less available. I note with interest. Funnily enough,

(01:13:29):
the full house properties for sale. The house is for sale,
and that's one of the silliest things we ever did.
Last year in San Francisco, the aforementioned ambrosiare eating seventeen
year old, who was actually delightful, said we must go
to the full house and look at the full house
and have a photo in front of the full house property.
And what we didn't realize at the time as we
hopped in the cab the cab, the cap there came

(01:13:49):
to something like one hundred and ninety five to two
hundred and ten dollars in the end, as we went
round and round and round and round and round, and
the full House house was only ever featured as the
front door and is not the address is not the
famous one because the show was shot in Los Angeles
and the interior was a set, and so in looking
to find the full House House, it's not actually the
house that was on television. And so we went to

(01:14:12):
the house at the address we were given and it
wasn't there, So then we had to go all over
San Francisco. Anyway, the point of it is the house
is up for sale now and it's all yours for
six and a half million dollars, just over.

Speaker 20 (01:14:23):
The road from the Palace of Fine Arts on that
sort of slopey street.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
There no the Palace of Fine Arts on the slopey street.
Maybe if I'd said that to the uber driver it
would have made all the difference, But clearly I'm not
much of a tourist. But I'll work on that with
Linda next week. Glynd Don't you worry? News is next.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
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Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
The run tours on hate Ashbury where the band members
of the grappel Dead lived communally. Did you check that
one out? I could tell you a story. Terry. On
another trip, it was a work trip for the America's Cup.
Somebody who will remain nameless organized to tour. They thought
it was a cool idea if they organized a tour
for us around San Francisco. Glenn, by the way, was
right on the Fine Arts thing. You just go past
the Fine Arts down to left, just round the corner

(01:15:18):
that's where the full houses. He was spot on there.
They thought that it would be a really cool idea
to do this tour of San Francisco. So we all
piled into this van with this guy I'm sure was
a tiple typical San Franciscan, if you know what I
mean in that kind of that. Hazy wasn't quite sure
what day it was kind of vibe anyway, I thought
it would be maybe an hour hour and a half,
And we started off in Chinatown, and we went around

(01:15:39):
Chinatown for a while and went into it. We got out,
he says, I'm just going to park up the van
here and we're gonna just get into Chinatown. I went, all,
this is longer than an hour and a half. So
we got out of the van, went to Chinatown and
he started taking us into some of the Chinese shops
where they, you know, take a frog. I saw a frog,
a live frog on a board with the skin just
ripped off, just front of your eyes. There it was

(01:16:00):
good times. So it's a bit of that. And then
we wanted back into the van. Then he told U
where we Anyway, after a three and a half hours
and we were going to various places.

Speaker 9 (01:16:08):
Did I go?

Speaker 15 (01:16:09):
Did you go down the steep street?

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
We went down the steep street.

Speaker 15 (01:16:11):
We went up Because you're not allowed to go down there,
we went down there. I went on a tour that
took you down here. They tell everybody that they're not
allowed to go.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
I did so many cars on the steep street. I
don't think it's actually true. Anyway, three and a half
hours and I was I was sitting there thinking someone
needs to say something, and so eventually it was me
and I said Geroni Mo whatever his name was. I said, mate,
how long is this tour going to continue? And he
goes what I said, The tour that we're on how
long does this go on for? And he goes ol

(01:16:41):
d okay, so we're three and a half hours, and
how he goes four or five another four or five hours?
I thought, right, I said, mate, can we get the express?
Can we get the expressed?

Speaker 9 (01:16:55):
Right?

Speaker 15 (01:16:55):
There is everything you need to know about my Hstking
Chop chop. Let's get it done. If he can had this, I.

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
Said, can we get the express to her? And it
blew his mind? He said what parts don't you want
to see? And I said, well, I feel I've seen
everything so far and whatever you've got coming up, slice
ninety percent of it out with the broad idea that
we're heading back to the hotel we started at. He
couldn't comprehend what was going on, but everybody, everybody thank me.

(01:17:22):
When we got back to the hotel and we took
to that person, I said, what the hell did you
think you were doing? And she no longer works for
this company? Twenty one minutes away from.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
Nine International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of
mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
Right on the THRADI marields, how are you yet?

Speaker 9 (01:17:39):
Our mate?

Speaker 23 (01:17:40):
Sounds like that driver it might have had a bit
of Herb superb. But for Herb Superb, mystery to it
exactly outstanding.

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
He was having the time of his life and he
didn't care what was happening in the back of the
vand right unemployment rate there, I really say that you
created forty thousand jobs. Yeah, does it feel to look
like that? Not?

Speaker 23 (01:18:00):
When you listen to small business they're complaining that. You know,
the times are very, very tough. Lots of eateries are
closing or struggling, and people are working a lot fewer hours.
But as you say, over forty thousand jobs, most of
them permanent in the month of May. Now they're interesting
stat and May nearly forty two thousand people, as I said,

(01:18:21):
full time jobs, but over the last twelve months mike
seventy five percent of the jobs creative in part time.
So there are lots of different moving bits in all
of this. And what does it mean for interest rates?
Of course, because we could have an early election this year.
An analysts are saying it will maintain the likelihood of
the cut and official interest rates by the Central Bank

(01:18:41):
before Christmas, and that could tie into a into an
early election of Albanesi decides to go early However, as
I was going to sleep last night, I was listening
to an economist who.

Speaker 9 (01:18:51):
Was saying, are you kidding?

Speaker 23 (01:18:53):
This puts pressure on the Reserve Bank to actually increase
rates because more people are working, and that does in
fact create a climate where inflation could edge up. So
I'm not an economist. Just today many moving bits and pieces.

Speaker 9 (01:19:06):
That's really hard to get your head around.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
Now, we've had a lot of people leave for Australia,
so our stats came out from immigration people coming into
the country, but more New Zealanders have left New Zealand
than ever, and many of them are coming to Australia.
And I'm trying to point out not that Australia is
not a great place. I love it, you love it,
et cetera. But when your first thing you do, when
your land. And we had some stats also, interestingly enough,
from salaries, and yes, you generally earn more in Australia,

(01:19:30):
but I was surprised at how much less it was.
In other words, for most jobs, most professions, it were
somewhere between twenty to thirty thousand dollars a year. So
when you go to rent your house or buy your house,
this is where the trouble strikes, and when rents are
going up six times the rate of wages extraordinary, you know,
how do you rental?

Speaker 23 (01:19:48):
That's a very big stat and it's that this is
the Bureau of Statistics, and it was interesting.

Speaker 9 (01:19:54):
I knew you wanted to talk about this. I went
and did some digging.

Speaker 23 (01:19:57):
In the decade up to the arrival of COVID, so
early twenty twenty, rents in Australia were pretty well stable.
You know, they weren't rising crazy, crazy crazy. As soon
as COVID arrives, people are quitting their sharehouses. They are
trying to find a place to live on their own
because they don't want to be exposed to other people

(01:20:17):
who may have COVID. Also, people are choosing to work
from home, so all of a sudden, you need that
extra bedroom for an office. And what that did, of course,
was create a lot more demand for accommodation. What happens then, well,
supply and demand. The rents go up, haven't stopped and
as you say, the latest stats six times rents are
outpacing the growth of wages.

Speaker 9 (01:20:38):
I did, I mind know how you can afford that? Really,
and truly it's very very difficult there are.

Speaker 23 (01:20:42):
Many, many people sleeping in cars in Australia, women and kids,
people who had jobs previously. They just can't get ahead
and they are struggling big, big time.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
Dun't I know you don't like and you don't think
he's electable. But I'm looking at the polls and those
are tight numbers. And this thing is done this week
with the with the Paris Accord, and we're going to
get out of it. And there's no point promising stuff
if you can't deliver. There's a logic to that. I
think that if you're not a Greenie, might appeal to
people in the cost of living crisis. What do you reckon, yeap?

Speaker 23 (01:21:13):
You know a lot of people in the coalition never
wanted to sign up to Paris, you know Barnaby Joyce
for example. A lot of the National Party, the junior
coalition partner, they represent largely the Australian Bush electorates in
the Bush and they don't want a bar of climate change.
They don't see any problem with it at all. I'm
want to keep digging coal and mining gas and all
the rest of it. Very interesting, as you say, the

(01:21:34):
News poll for Peter Dutton, the Coalition support at its
highest level in three years. Dutton up five points to
thirty eight percent, is preferred Prime Minister alban Easy down
six to forty six percent, so he's still in front
on that, but Labor down one at thirty three percent
the last election thirty two and change two party preferred
and this is the big number, Mike, it's fifty to fifty.

(01:21:55):
So Peter Dutton is absolutely doing something right. The poll
was conducted as large Lab was getting a flogging over immigration.

Speaker 9 (01:22:02):
That fellow Andrew Giles.

Speaker 23 (01:22:03):
I have no idea how he's still on the front
bench of Albanize's cabinet, apart the fact that the two
of them are best mates. What does Dutton do this
week on the back of these great figures. He comes
out and says, Oh, if the coalition wins the next election,
I'm pulling us out of Paris twenty thirty. We're still
going to maintain the twenty fifty target. But there's no point,
as you said, signing up to deals. We can't hope

(01:22:26):
hopelessly behind in terms of getting there to minus forty
three perceived on emissions to two thousand and five levels.
He says, Labor heroic assumptions on the ability to get there.

Speaker 9 (01:22:38):
He says, we don't want to bar of it.

Speaker 23 (01:22:39):
He's still pushing nuclear energy despite the fact all the
scientists over here are saying, you're out of your mind.
It's going to take too long, it'll be far too expensive.
And here's the big thing for the election. The climate
group that pushed the teals out of the line and
the last election, Mike, all those Liberal Party seats that
went the Surgeon donations, they've got nearly a million dollars.

(01:23:02):
We understand in the weeks leading up to Dutton's announcement,
in the debate over a nuclear a lot of people
don't want anything to do with anyone who says there's
no such thing as climate change. That could really bite
the cover listen at the next election.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
It's an interesting contest. I only got thirty seconds, but
I'm a little bit sensitive to this because I watched it.
Did you see this in Kevin Spacey interview this week
with Piers Morgan on YouTube?

Speaker 9 (01:23:24):
I did not see it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
No, watch it. It's quite interesting, But how many times
do you need to try a bloke? I mean, yeah,
say whatever you want about allegedly what happened or not,
but he's in and out and he wins his appeal.
How many times you want to go round the block
on this one.

Speaker 23 (01:23:38):
You're talking about Jared Haynes, rugby league starrup. Yes, you're
dead right. Is he going to face a fourth trial
for sexually assaulting allegedly sexually assaulting a woman six years ago?
The Director of Public Prosecutions here in New South Wales
is weighing up whether or not to do it. First jury,
of course we all know, was hung. The second and

(01:23:58):
third jury is convicted him, but both times he's got
out on appeal. And really and truly six years on
a fourth trial. A lot of legal experts here are saying,
you're outing your mind, you're kidding, it should not happen.
It just makes the legal system look like a joke.

Speaker 2 (01:24:12):
You're wonderful, Go well this weekend. We'll see you next week.
Appreciate a very much. Murray Old's out of Australia this morning,
fourteen to two, the mic costly racist eleven away from nine.
Poll out this morning. On the French vote, Macron's in
real trouble. His party's at eighteen percent. The National Rally Party,
which are the right wing thirty one percent Politico poll
National Rally thirty three percent Renaissance, which is Macron's party nineteen.

(01:24:36):
So he's he's got a very Speaking of voting, by
the way, it's a couple of very good pieces of work.
If you want to read the over the weekend, if
you're interested, see an end This country sixteen year old's
voted for the first time. The results are scary. Look
up that headline that's about Germany and the number of
young people sixteen year olds in Germany can vote, and
the reason the sixteen year olds in Germany can voters,
of course, their country is run by a left Lena's
who are now in desperate, desperate trouble after run the

(01:24:58):
tremendous pressure on all of Schultz, not about sixteen year
olds necessarily, but the fact that the AfD did particularly well,
and they did better than his party. In fact, everyone
did better than his party. So read that this country
sixteen year olds vote for the first time. The results
are scary. The other one was in the Sydney Morning
Herald German youth looked to the far right in the
latest elections, and the analysis around that and why is interesting.

(01:25:20):
And then this morning the UN producers, and this goes
to show the disproportionate treatment of certain news stories depending
on the feeling of the day. So there's more than
nine million people, for example, that have been displaced in
their homes in Sadan. Now is that significant? Yes?

Speaker 13 (01:25:35):
It is?

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
Do you know about that? Not really, because no one cares.
There's a record breaking one hundred and twenty million people.
So that's another record. Twelfth year in a row, the
number of people who have been displaced by war has increased, right,
one hundred and twenty million people. That's Japan. The entire
population of Japan displaced. So new conflicts this year. Sudan, yes,
where there are nine million people? And what was the

(01:25:55):
other one? Oh, Gaza, that's right now, Gaza? Is it
nine million people who displaced? No, it's one point seven.
So who's getting the headlines? Saddan at nine million or
Gaza at one point seven? Syria? Remember Syria? Hello, Syria,
world's largest displacement crisis? Are started in two thy eleven
fourteen million people? Me and Mahr and the Democratic Republic

(01:26:18):
of Congo are the other ones. Fascinating, isn't it that?
One point said?

Speaker 3 (01:26:21):
Not that?

Speaker 2 (01:26:21):
Not that to dismiss what's going on in Gaza or
the Middle East at all, obviously, but there are far
worse places in the world, if that's what you're into it.
For all the people who are going out, you know,
the poor people of Gaza, What about the poor people
of Saddan, What about the poor people of you know,
the millions all over the world of Mean Mah for example.
It's just how we see it, isn't it. It's the

(01:26:42):
mood of the times what we suddenly become obsessed with.
Eight minutes away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
On my cost will breakfast with Bailey's real estate news talks.

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
They'd be Actually, that's the other thing you might want
to read over the weekend if you're into it. The
BBC put out a very good piece the other day
about Malay's first six months and what he's done to
the economy. Some of it's magnificent, some of it's completely shambolic.
But just overnight their Senate has approved his economic reform
package and all hell's broken loose in the streets, petrol
bombs and stones and cars are alight. So he's declared

(01:27:13):
a state of economic emergencies, cutting pensions, he's watering down
labor rights. Basically, he's giving them a jump start. The
Vice President had to come to the rescue. It was
tied at thirty six all and the Senate Vice President
broke the deadlock and he got it through. So there
are some very very good things, some reality checks that
he has been involved with. But look it up in
the BBC Malay's first six months improved the Argentinian economy

(01:27:33):
is the question? You want to read that over the weekend? Mind,
you were busy over the weekend, aren't we with the
Warriors and stuff like that? Five minutes away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
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Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
Also, you might want to look at this. Trump's on
a podcast. Logan Paul's podcast, which is called Impulsive, which
I reckon is quite a good name, started off by
giving Logan and his co host a gift. This is
where we were reduced to should we put on that?

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
Amazing and it sells well.

Speaker 11 (01:28:08):
Elvis had one, Frank Sinatra had one.

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
This but we've eclipsed him.

Speaker 14 (01:28:13):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
They also released a trailer for the Hour and a
Half chant.

Speaker 9 (01:28:16):
Biden is just so bad.

Speaker 11 (01:28:18):
He's the worst president in the history of our country.

Speaker 9 (01:28:20):
You should make a disc track on him. You will
do something.

Speaker 22 (01:28:22):
Do you think that you're starting to soften reviews on
some of the networks that you may have not gotten
along with.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
In the past.

Speaker 9 (01:28:27):
No, they're fake news. We're going to fight this past week.
And how did it work out, you think, mister president.
I think you probably did pretty good.

Speaker 15 (01:28:34):
I've watched enough of you.

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
Unidentified aerial phenomena in this guy. We don't know what
they are, do you.

Speaker 11 (01:28:40):
It's very possible, really powerful stuff. They made a commercial
me promoting a product and it wasn't me, And I said, did.

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
I make that commercial?

Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
Rap beefs?

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
The rat beef just happened? Drake or Kendrick? What anyway?
That's out if you want to listen to that. I
do reckon me once again. The the Morgan interview. The
other one I started watching last night and I only
got three or four minutes in. But it's clever because
I love him. Is Miley Cyrus let him and still
doing his thing? But they seem to be it's no

(01:29:11):
longer a series. It seems to be just every now
and again one turns up, which is unfortunate because you've
got to sort of be on top of it, and
I'm not, and therefore you think, oh no, suddenly I've
missed it. But Miley Cyrus strikes me as a particularly
interesting woman, and Letterman's clearly enamored with her, and she's
enamored with him. And it's chateau. It's set and shot
at the Chateau Marment So which is always nice to

(01:29:33):
see it the best of times, and we got the
supercars and all of that. Anyway, we'll look forward to
your company on Monday. You have a fantastic weekend as always,
Happy Days.

Speaker 1 (01:29:43):
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