Full Show Podcast: 11 July 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Your trusted source for news and fews. Andrew Dickens on
the Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Vita Retirement, Communities, Life
Your Way news talk said b.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
The gust of living.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Everyone, and it's comboding to you. It is the eleventh
of July at seven minutes after six. I'm Andrew Dickinson
for Mike Hosking, who is back on Monday. He's on holiday.
Coming up on the program today. There is a glimmer
of hope for interest rates after the Reserve Bank's decisions yesterday.
Michael Riddell used to work for the Reserve Bank and
he's going to join us just after seven to talk

(00:39):
about that. Here's some good news to you. Constructing costs down,
It's all good news. Oh actually there's a little bit
of bad news and the construction costs being down, but
that's just what it is. Tommy Honey is joining me
on that. And then there's that leaked safety bulletin about
the grounding of the other Telly Goodness me. Winston Peters

(01:00):
is going to come on the program just after seven
thirty on the national embarrassment of this beached ferry. You
can text me on ninety two ninety two. You can
email Dickens at news Talks, ZEBB dot co dot nz
head zibe how much good faith can one company lose?
Transpower is in the gun over the infamous unbolted pylon

(01:21):
collapse which knocked out power to much of the North
and after the initial shock that there was a cut
caused by pure incompetence, the company talked with affected companies
and everyone thought things were going well. Everyone thought, oh,
look there's a bit of good faith happening here right now.
But then David Knight, Transpowers Executive General Manager for Strategy,

(01:43):
Regulation and Governance, How big is thatman's business card? He
came out and said the state owned company's liability for
losses is not straightforward. So businesses who think they have
suffered losses as a result of the outage should lodge
a claim with their insurance, not me, says David. And

(02:04):
Transpower also said, we can't guarantee that there won't be
power cuts. That's why you should have insurance. All right, Well,
maybe that is a fair call when you're talking about
acts of God, but you should guarantee that your maintenance
crew will not undo too many bolts. This episode was
not an act of God. It was an act of fools.

(02:27):
So that's not the insurance company's problem. It's Transpower's problem. Now.
Darren Fisher is a good bloke and he's from the
Northern Chamber of Commerce. He's talking to Transpower, he's talking
to a number of politicians in the region, and he's
been talking to local businesses. He confirms that their legal
complexity is large and it could take multiple years and

(02:48):
multiple millions of dollars to resolve, or Transpower could discover
their empathy and take the head on the chin. When
you've screwed up, you've screwed up, and then to try
and walk away from the liability from the screw up
is to heap insult on injury. I don't think there's

(03:08):
anyone in this country who doesn't think just pay up Transpower.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
News of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Well, we've got this UK man alleged to have killed
a BBC commentator's wife and two children with a crossbow.
The good news is he's been captured in a symmetry
and police threw everything they had at the Manhunds.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
We have extensive police resources deployed to various locations in
North London and also the Bushy area of Hertfordshire. The
manhunt also involves armed police officers and specialist search teams
responding at pace.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Obviously, the people in Bushy were freaking out.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
Suddenly you notice police.

Speaker 6 (03:48):
There was police outside in black uniform with sort of
sent me automatic guns.

Speaker 7 (03:53):
If someone is able to freely walk around with a
weapon such as a crossbow, you know, how can any
of us feel safe going out in broad daylight?

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yes, it was very Gothic, wasn't it. Maybe out to
the United States and Blincoln has announced the US ramping
up assistance to Ukraine.

Speaker 8 (04:08):
As we speak.

Speaker 9 (04:09):
The transfer of F sixteen jets is under way, coming
from Denmark, coming from the Netherlands, and those jets, those
jets will be flying in the skies of Ukraine this summer.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
And Norway are sending planes too.

Speaker 10 (04:27):
Even after the war, when Ukraine has prevailed and when
we collectively have showed the president Putin and this type
of behavior cannot be accepted in Europe, Ukraine still need too,
needs to defend itself, all.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Right, NATO there to rock and roll. Here we go.
A reminder from Donald Trump that the funding train could
look very different for NATO under his presidency.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
Sir may I ask you a question.

Speaker 11 (04:50):
If we don't pay our bills, will you protect us
from Russia? I said, you mean you're delinquent. They said yes,
with delinquent. Let's say, with delinquent, would you protect us?
I said no, I will not protect you from Russia.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
He only needs one person to actually have a conversation,
doesn't he Anyway? Still in America, this is a big
news Democrat Megadona. George Clooney, who's got nothing else to
do at the moment, has written an op edge in
the New York Times, and he said, I love Joe,
but you've got to go.

Speaker 12 (05:17):
The Joe Biden I was with three weeks ago at
the fundraiser was not the Joe big effing deal Biden
of twenty ten. He wasn't even the Joe Biden of
twenty twenty. He was the same man we all witnessed
at the debate.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
That was George's words, spoken by an actor. Just to
clarify things. He hasn't suddenly transitioned or anything like that. No,
I'll move on. In fact, Noah, the puns write themselves
with this story. We will try to avoid them. I
heard Ryan Bridge, he couldn't avoid it at all with
his snake jokes. There were snakes on a plane on
a flight to China. Had a man had to put

(05:57):
up with all of them? Are than once he was
stopped at was trying to enter China and inside his
trousers one hundred and four live snakes. This must be
pretty big pants in China, because one hundred and four
snakes is the biggest package. This comes after a man
tried to smuggle four hundred and fifty four endangered turtles

(06:19):
came with them, the majority were also down his pants.
My lord, are those snakes and turtles in your pants?
Or are you an alien? Fascinating stories six fourteen. So
interest rates remain high, there is hope on the horizon.
And yesterday's statement the Reserve Bank said they replaced the
standard phrase of the o CR, saying that rates needed

(06:41):
to stay higher for longer, with the o CR now
needing to stay restrictive. How many words is that seven?
That's enough to bring a glimmer of smile to economists.
We'll talk about this later with Michael Raddell after seven.
But next Andrew killerher with the market view.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
The mist Breakfast hears.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Talk to you b Andrew Dickinson for Mike. He's back Monday,
all new Galaxy phones details and prices on the way.
It is six seventeen. Andrew Kelleher, Jami Wealth, welcome to
the program.

Speaker 8 (07:15):
Good morning, mister Dickens.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
So you've had the magnifying glass and you've looked at
the twenty or twenty five words that have come out
from the Reserve Bank, and you've found a couple that
are hopeful.

Speaker 8 (07:24):
That that is that is true. So let's just get
the rates were left unchanged.

Speaker 7 (07:28):
That sort of little piece got sort of lost in
a lot of the rhetoric afterwards, isn't it. But so
the official cash right left unchanged yesday, but there's headlines
in them, their statements. So the incumpanies is the market
reaction I think was indicative of the significance of some
of those comments.

Speaker 8 (07:43):
So let's talk about that market reaction.

Speaker 7 (07:46):
First, A significant step down in wholesale interest rates.

Speaker 8 (07:50):
So we refer to a wholesale rate called the swap rate.

Speaker 7 (07:53):
Now that's important in determining where fixed rate mortgages are set.
So that one year raids or the one years what
rate fell twenty basis points. So it's just put at
five point six percent now at its peak sort of
in the last quarter of last year andrew that rate
was at six percent, so it's now significantly lower than
it was. The two year rate also fell about twenty

(08:16):
points to four point six Now, while that doesn't seem
like a lot from a retail rate perspective, it's significant
in the wholesale market and sends an important signal. So
the falls less pronounced in the longer term rates of
five year are going down twelve basis points. Now, what
triggered that was in the statement and in the accompanying
summary Record of meeting. And in the statement, the key

(08:38):
sentence was they said that monetary policy will need to
remain restrictive, but the extent of that restraint will be
tempered over time consistent with the expected decline in inflation pressures.

Speaker 8 (08:51):
Now, when we go to the summary record of the meeting,
that's the actual record.

Speaker 7 (08:54):
Of the meeting of the Monetary Policy Committee, they said
that inflation will return to the one point three percent
ban in the second half of two four.

Speaker 8 (09:00):
We knew that, but then they reference the.

Speaker 7 (09:03):
Recent business and consumer surveys with pointing to declining activity,
and they discussed the risk that this may indicate that
tight monetary policy is feeding through to domestic demand more
strongly than expected.

Speaker 8 (09:17):
So the door is open for change.

Speaker 7 (09:20):
And that was enough to make the money market sort
of take the punt that it signals an increased possibility
that there RB could sort of pivot away from that
second half of next to your timing the interest rate cuts.
So yeah, the door is open. There's a chink in
their armor. The market's now sort of fairly convinced that
the bank will be cutting by November, but.

Speaker 8 (09:39):
Not only that.

Speaker 7 (09:40):
And here's the little interesting but there's actually now talk,
there was talk around the traps, you know, on the
lines and everything yesterday that the quantum of that cut
could actually go up, so that maybe you could see
a fifty basis point cut. So look, I think August.
I think August is too early. I don't think you'll
see a cut in August. I'm still sticking. I still
sticking with a view that we'll all we'll get an

(10:01):
early Christmas present from our friends in the terrace in Wellington.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Okay, I heard about the bigger cuts in November, but
I also did hear about smaller cuts in August, and
we're going to put this autum Michael Radella but later
on and see which way he goes. Migration figures are
out yesterday too. We're still leaving.

Speaker 7 (10:17):
Yeah, we're still leaving, but generally there's still the massive
influx of people that's been a feature of the last
eighty months, hasn't it. So we've had the greatest population
great we've seen in decades.

Speaker 8 (10:27):
Got the latest update yesterday.

Speaker 7 (10:29):
So while people are still arriving, more New Zealanders than
ever are heading away. So whether it isn't in fact right,
the grass certainly seems to be greener in distant shores.
So for the record annual net permanent long term migration
now sitting at eighty three thousand for the twelve months
at the end of May. The peak was back in
October twenty three, was at one hundred and thirty six thousand.
The twelve month rolling total has been declining since then,

(10:51):
so yeah, there's more of us leaving than ever. The
net loss of New Zealand citizens in the twelve months
just over sixty thousand. Mogan arrivals were high, but migrant
departures up more than that. That's why the net figure
is falling. The key water cooler takeaway Andrew is that
migration is still strong. It's still adding to population, but

(11:12):
the trend is slowing and there's lots of New Zealanders
heading elsewhere in the bulk of them are going.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
To Australia because house and numbers.

Speaker 8 (11:22):
Very positive this morning.

Speaker 7 (11:23):
Actually, the Dow Jones is up half a percent, almost
two hundred points thirty nine, four hundred and eighty five.
The S and P five hundred is up points sixty
nine percent five sixty one five and the NASDAK up
almost one percent one hundred and seventy seven points eighteen
thoy six hundred and six.

Speaker 8 (11:38):
The fort Sey one hundred.

Speaker 7 (11:39):
They're shaking off that election result that was higher two
thirds of percent eight one ninety three. The nicket was
higher up two hundred and fifty one points four one
eighty three. One small fall in the Shanghai composite. The
Aussie is yesterday down thirteen points, so not much seven
eight one six. But we cheered the Reserve Bank yesterday
on the ins ofex fifty it was up ninety five
points point eight percent seven nine hundred and forty three.

(12:02):
One key we dollar slightly lower because of the prospect
of intral straight cuts points six oh seven eight against
the US port nine oh one four ossie point five
six one six against the euro point four to seven
three four pounds ninety eight point three two Japanese yen
gold is trading at two thousand, three hundred and seventy
three dollars in break cruit eighty five dollars and nine cents.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Galagher from jaliy and my wealth. I thank you for
your time. Six twenty two is the time the best
beach in the world is back maybe and we're talking
about Cathedral Cove is a five million dollars temporary fix.
And we'll go to the Corimandle after the six thirty news.
But next new phones here on New Stalks.

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which is great for travel. The new earbuds are called
the Galaxy Buds three and the Galaxy Buds three Pro,
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(13:45):
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(14:05):
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(14:27):
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Speaker 1 (14:44):
Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues Andrew
Dickens on the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Jaguar the Art
of Performance News Talks B.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
He wanted to welcome to the program. So Anthony Blincoln
and the United States, they're setting more kit to Ukraine
because lanskus are for at. Norway is sending six f
sixteen's to join the two they've already sent because Zolonsky
wants it. Zolonsky wants all the thirty two states in
the NATO to send more stuff. So what's Italy going
to give? What is Italy going to give what have

(15:14):
they got to give? Joe McKenna from Rome in about
ten minutes time. It's now twenty two to seven.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Keep going on away again about down.

Speaker 5 (15:22):
The zea, the scene.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
Great news, the best beach in the world, Cathedral Cove.
You can get to the sea, you can get there,
it's walking access will be restored before summer. It's been
closed since sie Cone Gabriel and the government's given five
million dollars for a short term fix. So the general
manager of Destination Hodaki Coramandel is Hadley Dryden, who must

(15:46):
be a happy man. Hello Hadley, morning Andrew.

Speaker 14 (15:49):
Yeah, we're pretty happy here in the cormandaal that great news.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
What's it been now that it's been closed?

Speaker 14 (15:56):
Part of men?

Speaker 3 (15:57):
How long has it been that it's been closed?

Speaker 14 (15:59):
Oh, closince the events and Gabriel.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
So I'm just we didn't do the month count up,
but there we go. It's a long long time. And
that was a big, big beach. It's you Is it
your biggest attraction?

Speaker 14 (16:12):
Yeah, and it's not far from the likes of hot
Water Beach and of course the community of Patiana as well,
so there's a lot of polling power that Cathedral Cove
has for the whole of the region and in fact
New Zealand to an extent as well. It's a bit
of a poster child for the country, so it's pretty
important that it's back for the summer.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
So run us through the things is only five million
dollars and it's only temporary.

Speaker 14 (16:37):
Yeah, I think at the moment it's a case of
we'll take what we can get and we'll support the
process in terms of delivering what we can for this
summer and hopefully building an experience that is even better
than what it was going forward.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
Okay, so it will be good enough to work. I've
done this walk in a number of times, you know.
I love the walk and it's beautiful and it's one
of the easiest because it's all sealed, you know. But
then I saw with the damage there's a lot of
stairs that actually fell down. How would you like it improved?

Speaker 14 (17:09):
I think it's well, it was a little bit like
the yellow brick road, so really easy access for most people,
but obviously a little bit challenging with the pieces that
were blown out in the storm. But I think it's
about the overall experience that's improved. So from a destination
management perspective, how it benefits the community, the wider environment,

(17:33):
and if there's any other additional parts that can be
locked out to extend the experience. Even so, during the
last summer that we did have, there was two Party Point,
which is at the southern end of Hahei that was
opened up and promoted as a walkway, and you see
streams of visitors walking to that point as well. So

(17:56):
there's potential to try and encourage people to stay a
little bit longer and help support the community a little
bit more so and.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Walk a little bit further. One of the things about
the damage into Cathedral Cove is of course the roof
of the actual arch that you could walk through between
the two beaches. The roof had come down, you know,
So will we be able to go through that arch
or is that now forbidden because of the risk and
is it going to be too difficult to stabilize the roof?

Speaker 14 (18:25):
Yeah too really to say from my perspective and department
the Conservation will obviously be looking at that closely, but
I think it's only periodically where there's a rock fall
from the archway, so it might be that they just
close it intimittently, depending on the weather, and you know,

(18:48):
people as it is are still taking a chance and
will wander through anyway, even if they've had access through
by the boat. So I think we have to be
pretty pragmatic about the response there too.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Very good and also what else do you want done
on the Coromandal? I can tell you the roads are terrible.
I mean they always have been before twenty five A
went down. I mean you've got one lane bridges all
over the place, You've got them in Titler, You've got
them everywhere and they hold up everything. Is there any
talk of more investment into this area because more and
more people are living there permanently too.

Speaker 14 (19:20):
Yeah, the local council, it's fair to say that's their
number one priority. So for many who visit the Coramander
lost and the roads that are pretty much back to
a good space. But when you lock a little bit closer,
the resilience of the network is still it requires a
lot of upgrades and protection, so we don't have to

(19:42):
go through what we did to the same extent with
State Higher twenty five A for example. So there's a
huge amount of work and advocacy that's going into fixing
up the roads. So we're more resilient in the future.
And the Coromantal Fairy, that's probably another one that suffer
through COVID. The ferry to Auckland stopped and we had

(20:04):
the cove and the road blowout, so we've had a
bit of a rough time here in the Coromandel. So yeah,
I think any support that we can get, whether it's
through the COVID, the faery or most definitely the roads,
we're certainly chasing that.

Speaker 15 (20:20):
Well.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Good on your Handley, Congratulations and good luck and thank
you so much for your time. Hadley Dryden from Hola
Conremandal Promotions. It is now seventeen minutes to seven. And
on the topic of tourism, the stats n Z figures
on migration came out yesterday and that includes tourism numbers.
And here's the thing. Tourism numbers have stored. So that's
not going to make Hadley happy, is it. How stored
are they? Well, I'll run through this. Just before seven o'clock.

(20:43):
Joe McKenna is on the way. This is New Stalks MB,
the MIC hosting breakfast New STALKSB. It is coming up
fourteen to seven.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
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Speaker 3 (20:59):
Joe McKenna joins us. Hello, Joe, good morning, Andrew sweating
in Italy. But we'll talk about the weather late later
because I hear it's bad or good, depending on what
you like. But Italy has committed more help for Ukraine.

Speaker 16 (21:13):
Yes, the Italian Prime Minister Georgia Maloney is at the
NATO's summit in Washington.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Now.

Speaker 16 (21:19):
She's been critical of the European Union from time to time.
She is of the right wing persuasion, but her support
for NATO and Ukraine has been very solid. And she's
announced that Italy will be giving another samp Te air
defense system to shoot down Russian missiles. And that follows,

(21:39):
of course, what we've heard about NATO beginning to send
the long promist F sixteen jets to Ukraine as well.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Indeed as well. Zelenski has asked everybody to pitch in,
having they all thirty two nations, and we've seen Norways
done it, we've seen the States done it, and now
Italy has done it. And well done, thank you so
very very much. Controversially, Beerlasconi a round the controversial figure
in Italian politics. It's getting an airport named after him.

Speaker 10 (22:08):
That's right.

Speaker 16 (22:08):
It's a year after he died and there's been a
political fuor because you have to remember that Silvio Belisconi,
three time prime minister, was convicted of tax evasion and
his colleague Transport Minister Matteo Slovini from the right wing
League Party is pushing him his name forward to be

(22:29):
the name of Milan's currently called Malpensa airport. But you
have to remember Rome airport is named after Leono Leonardo
da Vinci, Venice is named after the explorer Marco Polo,
and Palermo Airport is named after two judges, Falcone and
bor Borslino, who were assassinated by the mafia because of

(22:49):
their efforts to fight the mafia. So you know, it's
a big call to put Silvio Belusconi in the same
league as some of these names.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Milan that you'd name the airport after a football player,
wouldn't you, since they've got two amazing football sides up there,
Or you do it after a fashion designer since of
course they believe they are the height of fashion, don't they.
So you know, but.

Speaker 16 (23:12):
Spotted and of course Sylvio bert is going to owned
one of the Milan football teams, so there's even more
reason to name it after a football player.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
Well he made some good telly for a little while anyway,
so there we go. Meanwhile, we mentioned how hot it's
hot everywhere, but how hot is it in Italy?

Speaker 16 (23:31):
Yeah, well this is part of the heat wave sweeping Europe.
We've had about thirty seven degrees today in Rome. It's
going up to thirty eight tomorrow. The Health Ministry has
issued a red alert heat wave warning for seven Italian
cities for tomorrow, and that includes Turin, Rome and Trieste
in the north. And this has been driven by an

(23:51):
African anti cyclone bringing these scorching temperatures across the Mediterranean.
And even though it's going to drop off it on
satur I think we're going to see more of this
kind of weather in the coming weeks.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
Do you like it?

Speaker 1 (24:05):
I like a bit of.

Speaker 16 (24:06):
It, But this is extreme today and I haven't got
aircorn in my house, so it's a little hot in here.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
Yeah, no one does in Europe. So the true because
we've got New Zealanders coming over for the summer season,
go and do your stuff early in the morning, because
otherwise it's just too hot.

Speaker 16 (24:21):
Great idea and then you can party late at night.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
Very good stuff and I thank you so much done McKenna.

Speaker 16 (24:26):
Thanks Andrew.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
It is now eleven minutes to seven. We've going to
text through about comments about the coramandal's roading structure and
somebody says, well, look you it shouldn't be about resilience
because we're talking about all the one lane bridges. There
shouldn't be about resilience, which is what Hadley said. It
shouldn't be about resilience. It should be about future proofing
the network. But when have we ever future proofed our networks?

(24:48):
Is possibly the motto of New Zealand. It is ten
to seven. The tourist numbers are next with the biz
and by the way, Winston Peters on the datary ferry
and the leaked safety bulletin is just after the seven
to thirty news, so that is going to be fascinating.
It is ten to seven.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Andrew Dickens on them, Mike Costing breakfasts with Bailey's Real
Estate News Talk.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
Saib By the way, big news in the United States
is that George Cerney big Megadona for the Democrats, and
Joe Biden has put up an op ed in The
New York Times. At the title of it is I
love Joe Biden, but we need a new nominee. He
loves Joe Biden as a Senator, as a vice president,
as a president. I consider him a friend. There is
one battle he cannot win, the fight against time. He

(25:32):
sees all the scary stories that we're being told that
about what would happen if we change the nominees are
not true. So let's go in and do it. Poor
old Joe Biden facing a death by one thousand reckons.
It is a seven to seven zid b.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
This is the biz, all the inns and the outs,
It's the fizz on the Mike Hosking breakfast on News Talk,
said b.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
So, tourist numbers have stalled. It's a huge reason why
our economy is not recovering like we would. So the
stats New Zealand figures came out in yesterday for May
one hundred and eighty thousand overseas visitors coming for a trip.
That's up about twenty thousand or May of last year,
but only at eighty percent of pre COVID levels come
on back. It's a big reason why tourist of New
Zealand's doing a big promotion campaign during the off peak season.

(26:18):
It May, forty six percent of the arrivals were from Australia.
That's up nine percent from the US and eight percent
were from China. That's low, it should be higher. The
issue is it isn't supposed to get immediately better, or
the issue is that it will not get immediately better.
Forsyth Bar say there's little side of an increase in
passage of capacity during the next financial year. The main

(26:39):
problem is what we've reported on before. We have lost
major numbers in all key markets as being for being
attractive as a country to visit. People are still traveling,
they're just not wanting to come here. But despite getting
the numbers in or not getting the numbers in, we
ourselves love to travel. Two hundred and twenty three thousand

(26:59):
of US got on a plane in May, up twenty
thousand last year, ninety five percent of the pre COVID numbers.
This cost a living crisis is really hurting everybody, isn't
it really viciously? It's five to seven. Hey, some hopeful
signs for the economy, for US, for New Zealand and
for the ocr The interest rates, So there were a

(27:20):
few changes to the sentences in their statement, and suddenly
and the November cuts are starting to look very very
possible according to many economists, and in fact some yesterday
when as far I don't know quite what they were
on when as far to say we could bring forward
the ocr cuts to August. So some said we could

(27:41):
have a bigger cut in November, and some said we
could have some wall cup but we could have it
in August anyway. So at six of one, half a
dozen of the n what do I know? Which is
why we're talking to Michael Riddell, former Reserve Bank economists,
and he's coming onto the program right after the news Mememhile,
for the first time in twelve years, construction costs have
dropped and they now one point one percent in the

(28:01):
three months to June. And the supply is good, it's
back to normal. And the dwelling consent, well, i'll tell
you more about that later. This is all good news,
is it not the end of the end of inflation,
maybe the end of the high interest rates? Well, we'll
all find out next out.

Speaker 6 (28:18):
I feel like this much good news on one show
since about February twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
This is why I'm going on about it at length.
This is some good news and we need some good news.
So Michael Redell feel uncomfortable. Michael Radelle, form Reserve Bank governor,
is on the way. Also Executive director of the Construction
Industry Council, A glorious nick named gentlemen by the name
of Tommy Honey is going to join us to talk
about how construction costs are falling. My name is Andrew Dickens.
I'm in for Mike Hosking, who's on holiday. Who's back

(28:45):
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one commercial radio station.

Speaker 17 (28:51):
As next, you'll tell me.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Yemen the breakfast Show you Can Trust. Andrew Dickens on
the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, doing real
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Speaker 3 (29:42):
I'll go on into you seven minutes after seven, The
predictable happens. The ocr staid steady, but there could be
good news in there. Maybe the Reserve bankers hinting headline
inflation could return to its three percent target within a
matter of months, and that is a shift from earlier forecasts.
There were just a few words. They were just a
bit different, but they were positive of informer Reserve Bank economists.
Michael Riddell joins me. Now, hello, Michael Andrew, are you

(30:05):
full of confidence now?

Speaker 15 (30:10):
Not on the Reserve Bank or in the economy. I mean,
yesterday's statement was certainly a shift in the right direction,
but it was a real lurch. You know, it was
very very different in tone from the statement they brought
out only six weeks ago, which was then talking up
possible rate hikes later this year and not even beginning
to cut into August next year. So you know, it's
all over the place, the shift in the right direction.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
So let's just talk about those words. They said that
the OCR needed to They used to say that the
OCR needed to stay They said this time, sorry, the
OCR needed to stay higher for longer. Now the OCR
needs to stay restrictive. So that's enough to create all
this sort of optimism.

Speaker 15 (30:47):
That and a whole bunch of other stuff in the
wording of the statement. The overall tones of the statement
are very very different. They're now explicitly talking about the
fact that must start easing as the inflation pressures, whereas
last time round it was much more cletely quickly either way,
and then think their central forecast was, yeah, we're.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
All desperate for a fall. I see that some predicted.
Almost everybody's predicting a November fall and rates, and possibly
a bigger one than previously expected. Would that be fair?

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (31:18):
I mean, I think it's the timing that's changed more,
and in fact people aren't rolling out now. The possibility
of cutting August depends a lot on what next week's
CPI does. If the inflation numbers come through quite comfortably,
then this rhetoric yesterday would be consistent with beginning to
move at that point. But yeah, November seems like it's
more or less in the bag now you would have thought.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Okay, but are you not thinking about a smaller one
in August? Or is that too much?

Speaker 15 (31:44):
I think most likely when they begin they'll start with
twenty five point adjustments, So I think if they were
to go with a fifty point right off, that would
probably be criticized again as not having laid the ground
for a properly, being quite inconsistent with the last monetary
policy statement, and so on and so forth. But these
guys do lurch, so nothing would be entirely surprising.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Okay, and you mentioned the CPI. The CPI is out
next week, and we've had some inflation good signs about
inflation from various figures that have come out over the
last little while. What do you think is happening there?

Speaker 15 (32:17):
I mean, I think it was trening down that you know.
The point the reserve they're used to write me six
weeks ago was there are some price areas where prices
are holding up rates and insurance. It's just that those
have got nothing much to do with monetary policy. There
what we call them the jargon supply shocks things at
the reserve banks more is look through and focus on
the things that are driven by the state of the economy.

(32:38):
The economy is very weak. Reserve Bank statement acknowledges that
yesterday it looks like inflation is really beginning to fall
away quite sharply. But there'll be ups and downs, as
they have been in a bunch of other countries.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
It's inevitable there we go. Everyone always tempers their predictions
with depending on the situation globally, and we saw some
bad confidence figures out of Australia the other day. So
what do you think we're seeing globally and then could
infect our return to lower rates in November.

Speaker 15 (33:03):
I hope the global picture broadly is heading in the
support of direction. You know, we're seeing global economy slowing.
That's not surprising with intrastrates having been at these sort
of highest levels for fifteen years. For a year or
two now, Australia is a bit of an exception. They
probably haven't got rates high enough to get inflation comfortably down,
and so their economy and labor market are still running

(33:24):
on reasonably strongly, and that's one of the reasons why
there's such a big outflow. You see lots to Australia
at the moment, but broadly the environment is just a
vertically different, more favorable place for getting inflation down than
it was a year or especially two years ago.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
All right, good stuff, and I thank you so much.
That is Michael Riddell, who is a former Reserve Bank economist.
It is now eleven after seven News talk ZB I
told you we had more good news for the first
time in twelve years. Construction costs of drop and they
fell one point one percent of the three months to June.
Material supply is back to normal. Dwelling consents though falling,

(34:01):
and there's a pipeline of jobs that's coming to completion,
and so what's coming next. But all of this is
ease pressure, freed up capacity, and reduce costs. So can
we build? Executive Director of the Construction Industry Council joins me.
Now it's Tommy Honey.

Speaker 15 (34:14):
Hello, Tommy, Hi, Hi, how you doing?

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Andrew?

Speaker 18 (34:16):
Good to talk?

Speaker 3 (34:17):
Is this good news?

Speaker 18 (34:19):
It's well, yes it is, but there's you know, there's
it's a self cloud, it's a self aligning pat to
the cloud. It's great for those people who've been holding
back and waiting to build or renovate. And following on
from your previous interview, I think we've all been a
sort of weight and see process about inflation and where

(34:40):
the economy is going. So yeah, it's good news for
those wanting to build, but it's probably a little bit
foreboding for the construction sector itself.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
And well, exactly, we've heard so many headlines about the
construction sector feeling the squeeze recently, companies going out to business,
et cetera. They're already operating at a bare minimum, you know,
so what's the future for them?

Speaker 18 (35:03):
Well, the big thing for us in the construction sector
is pipeline. What are what jobs you have coming up?
And how far ahead can you see work so that
you can stay in business, keep employing people, keep building,
keeping work. And when things are slow, which they happen
in the last eighteen months, that pipeline gets small short
and shorter and shorter. So you know, a large construction

(35:24):
company is going to want you know, the huge ones
are going to want, you know, nine twelve months beyond
and pipeline. But your local builder building houses and a
small team sometimes that that pipeline is only three to
six months. When it drops down to one to two months,
you know it's time to belts. So we really we

(35:45):
appreciate the opportunities that increased competition brings, but it actually
often it's builders themselves reducing their margins as thin as
they can just so they can keep keeping work. So
good good, good to the clients. Tough on the builders
at the moment, but we hope that will turn.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
That's economics one o one. So you say it will return.
How long will it take for recovery in your poor
beleagued sector.

Speaker 18 (36:13):
Oh well, you know, you know, a stant inflation, people
expecting it to drop sharply. That's actually kind of a
good sign. Easy thing. So seen interest rates to come
down also a good sign. But we kind of follow
those those cycles, and so the quicker that cycle happens,
the quicker week in return. I always like to try

(36:37):
and to describe the sector as like a flywheel, you know,
and when it's up and running, you don't have to
add much to it to keep it going. But when
it slows down, it can take a long time to
crank up again and get back up to speed. So
that's what we're hoping for. I guess the good signs
in this news from core Logic is that the component
of construction that was due to the product side, if

(37:01):
you like, the supply chain, that has come back to
what they call normal because it did spike a lot
during COVID.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
It was totally insane. So Tony, we wish you all
the very best of Like Tommy Honey, who is the
executive director of the Construction Industry Council, this is news
Talk z be on the way the Climate Change Minister.
His name is Simon what in case news talk zibby.
But with the time at seven fifteen, only six minutes
into the game, between England and the Netherlands in the
Euro's semi final, and this happened.

Speaker 5 (37:30):
It's a good nick by Seamons.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
It's Shermy Simons. It's a putigal.

Speaker 19 (37:41):
He has never don lost.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
Orange flash the nevolency.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
Oh yes they do. Even though England is defensively minded
and with a defensive strategy. Still the Netherlands scored first
at six minutes. It's now fourteen minutes into the game
and the newsers it's still one nill to the Netherlands
and the UK are crying into their beer. Yes, Simon
Wat's climate change minister, next On has five pillars that
he wants to support. Seven sixteen the Mic Hosking brakist

(38:17):
be Andrew Dickinson for Mike Hosking. He's back on Monday
seven eighteen. I might have some good news for the
INCOD fans soon. But first the government's released its climate strategy,
It's Pillars strategy. The pillars focus on infrastructure, community preparedness,
market support for the transition, clean energy, tech and nature
based solutions, but critics say it doesn't give much explanation

(38:40):
on how these goals will be achieved, and climate activists
have gone out and called the strategy, and I apologize
about as useful as teats on a ball. So Climate
Change Minister Simon Watts joins me right now, Halla, Simon.

Speaker 8 (38:53):
Go morning.

Speaker 20 (38:53):
Andrew's great to be here.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
Is it vague? And as if it is vague, have
you worded it vaguely strategically?

Speaker 20 (39:00):
Well, it's a strategy, Andrew, and a strategy focuses on
the big dots that we want to focus on as
a country. The detailed plan will be coming in the
next two weeks and we'll be very clear with that.
We need to set the big dots that we're going
to focus on as a country, and we think that
we've got those dots in the right place.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
So you've got some big dots. But of course your
government likes also to measure results. How will success be measured?

Speaker 20 (39:25):
Well, the plan that we've got will be measured in
two ways. By the end of next year will be
our first budget deliverable point, so we'll have targets that
we have to hit by the end of next year
and then again at the end of twenty thirty and
both of those prime ministerial budget targets that have been
set and that's all we aim to deliver.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
So you'd have a target for one of those things,
which says minimizing the costs of reducing emissions.

Speaker 20 (39:51):
We've got targets for the amount of emissions that we're
going to reduce by the end of next year and
then by the end of twenty thirty and those are
within domestic legislation, and so the plan and the strategy
that we've outlined will ensure that we hit those targets.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
So the targets are already reduced, and if you hit them,
therefore you've reduced your emissions. Therefore you've hit your target.

Speaker 20 (40:10):
Well, that's the plan. We need initiatives to make sure
that we're going to reduce emissions to hit those targets,
and we've got a clear plan that's going to outline that.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
But in addition to that, how do you measure how
do you measure things like empowering communities?

Speaker 20 (40:26):
Well, the adaptation conversation is one that we haven't heard
much about under the last government. The reality of the
floods and wire and we know all of that stuff,
but we need a clear plan as a country to
deal with the impacts of climate change that we're facing today.
Alongside what we're going to do around reducing emissions, but
we need to be focusing on both aspects, not just

(40:46):
on the mitigation.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
So we got the strategy, when do we get the policies.

Speaker 20 (40:50):
It's a detailed policy. The Mission's reduction plan will be
consulted on within the next two weeks, so not long
to wait. That'll have a detail overview in terms of
the key drivers of emission and information around our policies,
around the emissions trading scheme and how that all pulls together.
That will get us from here to the end of
twenty thirty. And that's the detail that will support the

(41:10):
strategy that I published yesterday.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
Is twenty thirty still the big goal.

Speaker 20 (41:14):
Twenty thirty is the major milestone in the short term.
It's only seventy eight months away. So while it feels
like in some ways a long way way, it actually isn't.
In terms of the actions required. We need to hit
twenty thirty and then we move on from there. But
we need to balance off the actions we're taking with
supporting our economy, making sure they're a productive and you know,
we're pushing that through in a pragmatic and sensible way.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
Hime attains Minister sim Watson, and I thank you for
your time at at A seven twenty two. Now when
I started this interview and going to be granted a penalty,
what happened?

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Seven twenty six Northland. Northland's always done it hard a
province with under investment and then the weather smacks it
around the heads and now they've been dealt another blow.
Did you here that Northport applied to the Northlands Regional
and fungar Rang District Councils in late twenty two They
wanted a raft of resource consents. They want to expand
the port to increase the port's freight storage and handling

(43:12):
capacity and turn it into a high density container terminal.
But wouldn't you know it, consent has not been given.
Independent commissioners turned down the port's application. Why because they
wanted to reclaim eleven point seven hectares too much, said
the commissioners. The point is owned by mars And Maritime
and Ports of Turdonger. They're going to review the decision

(43:33):
and they can appeal the decision and they're also applying
to be included on the fast Track Approvals bill as well.
But the Ports of totong A Chief Executive Leonard Sampson
says he's disappointed. You're disappointed, mate, So am I you
shoot a region while it's down. All the talk we
have about regaining our mojo and taking ourselves and our
products to the world. Nothing but is that nothing but

(43:53):
hot air eleven point seven hectare reclamation? Is that enough
to stop Northport being a great and vice port and
to help Northend rejuvenate? Who's the Who's the some of
the politicians from up north. Oh, I know Winston Peter's
and Shane Jones and guess who I'm talking to right
after the news Winston Peters. So I'll ask him why

(44:15):
north Port can't expand their port, and I'll also ask
him about what he knows about the aditary and the
autopilots and that cup of coffee.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Stay, how aren't you? I need you? Oldka A.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Need It is beautiful, says it A big news fold
Opinions Andrew Dickens on the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Alveda
Retirement Communities Life Your Way News tog said.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
B y, come on to your It is now twenty
three minutes to eight with a lot of people losing
their jobs around New Zealand. Right now we're all looking
for a new employer, and I'm going to be able
to tell you in about ten minutes time who is
New Zealand's most attractive employer. And it's not the first
time they've won it either, And we'll find out what
makes them an attractive employer and whether you can actually

(45:20):
apply for a job with them. Say yeah, we're talking
to a fellow called Richard Kennedy. It's in about ten
minutes time here on News Talk tob it's twenty two
to eight. There was an ad that became a hit

(45:42):
song for the Warritors cruising on the Interlinder and boy
in the inter Islander. It's not a cruise at the moment.
And fortunately for Kiwi Rail, last night's leaks went on
board the boat. They were offered. They arrived in document form.
It's a safety bulletin which was distributed to masters on
the fifth just so they're in the loops that they

(46:04):
know what's happening with their boats. And it reveals a
multitude of reasons as to why the ferry ran aground
three weeks ago. One of the key concerns surrounds an
autopilot button. This is a button you have to press
for five seconds to activate, so very hard to do accidentally,
one would have thought. Now, New Zealand First First highlighted
a lot of these concerns and a social media post

(46:26):
on Tuesday, and leader of New Zealand First and also
acting Prime Minister at the moment, Wister Peter's joins me,
Hello Winson, good morning. How did your people become aware
of the situation with the auditory so that you could
post about it?

Speaker 21 (46:43):
Ah, Well, they got information from people who would know,
and it was not unusual to get that information because
this has happened countless times in the past with respect
to the fairies and all we've had over the years,
going back, you know, a long time in nine eighty
six is the same regime of denial and we're having

(47:03):
an inquiry. We're going to find out. And the fact
is it was so dwmn obvious that the question was
what on earth was it doing on Autoparlot in the
first place.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
Indeed, if we go back to Tuesday, though, you also
or your post on behalf of your party also added
a cup of coffee, which upset all the crew and
they even employed lawyers. Can you stand by those claims
about the absenteeism for the coffee.

Speaker 21 (47:30):
Well, can I ask you this question, how would have
been on order part of at the time and how
come we had this problem? You see, it's not complex.
This is a simple one two three, and we're not
getting any answers. And this is a tax power and operation.
And so the oginal first party put this out saying,
you know, what has going on? Did somebody go for
a cup of coffee or what happened? Because it should

(47:52):
never have been on auto part in the first place,
and now we're getting all sorts of explanations to try
and explain the unimaginable process which should never have in
the first place.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
Oh, absolutely agreed. However, the maritime lawyer did say that
the comments at the time on the Tuesday were unhelpful and.

Speaker 21 (48:07):
Not saying the maritime The maritime lawyer can say what
he likes. He's been paid to say that with the
greatest effect to him. Get to the facts before you
open your mouth. That's all I'm asking for, and that's
the usual first is asking for.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
But there's a standard procedure that you wait for the
official investigation.

Speaker 21 (48:22):
No, no, Look, Transpower was a case up north for
one hundred and ten a thousand homes lost power and
Mayor Brown at the time here in Auckland said, look,
they did not bolt the thing down. They're taking the
plates off. It was steering their office. Anything was a
denial first of all. Then four hours later there was
an admission, why do we have to go through this

(48:43):
process when the taxpayers interests are concerned and so many people,
so many people have been put out of the you know,
the the movement has been seriously affected. We've not had
a ferry for a long time. It's selling today, I notice,
But here we've had all this delay when the should
be action this day and give us the answer this
day if you know what the answer is. And they

(49:04):
didn't know what the answer is, didn't they?

Speaker 3 (49:05):
Yeah, okay, so this makes Kii Rail look bad. But
we also have the ongoing issue of the replacement of
the ferries and the cancelation of the Korean Order and
then the new plan that we're waiting for. So what
do you say has to happen next for KiwiRail and
the inter Islander.

Speaker 21 (49:21):
Well, the Furi Rail was asked to try and find
two replacements, and I was the head of the Qurie
whale as a minister. They were asked there between twenty
seventeen twenty twenty and they went out there and instead
of getting two replacements at Thurn a million dollar max,
they went out with a three point two billion follow

(49:42):
listened thinks to buy, of which only one fifth or
twenty percent was the fairies. Do you see what I mean?
What's going on here? We're just being led up by
the nose here. And that happened on the thirtieth of
June twenty twenty one, six months after I've gone, So
mister Hippins to stop going out there and lying about
my responsibility. It's not true.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Okay. Can I just ask you a quick question. Northport
has been denied a permission to expand because apparently they
were reclaiming just too much land eleven point seven hect.
Is you are a representative of the North here in
the Parliament, the party that you're part of, in the
government that you're part of, in a coalition agreement once
economic development, particularly in the North, and you want to
fast track things, are you going to are you going

(50:24):
to get involved with this application by Northport for an expansion.

Speaker 21 (50:29):
Look, I've been arguing for Northport for years, not because
I'm from up North. I was the MP for total
and the most successful port for all those years. I
was there for a quarter of a century in total
on it. But here's the point. It's the only one
with the future capacity to take the partnerships that are
coming here. And I thought the decision sadly was a
disaster and the holds back North a minute has a

(50:50):
chance to be a major part of this company's infrastructure.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
So when the fast track comes in, will you can
you stick it into the fast track?

Speaker 8 (50:58):
Oh?

Speaker 21 (50:58):
I can't answer those questions. You know that has to
be decided by the fast tracked ministers, but also the
panels that come after the fast tracking miss to decide
independently of the government what is right and what's wrong.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
Okay, thank you so much, Winster Peters, Zealand First Leader
and this is news talks. Hev and I call on
Winston Peters to advocate at least for the fast tracking,
to advocate for Northport. I'm sorry, I just think it's
a must do it, must do. It is sixteen minutes
to eight still to come. Who is New Zealand's best employer?

(51:31):
If you've lost your job? Football score anybody.

Speaker 5 (51:36):
Yeah, it's still one all.

Speaker 6 (51:38):
We're just coming up to the end of the first
half and you'd have to say England have been on
the attack for most of the half, believe it or not.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
The attack Yeah, yeah, yeahectly.

Speaker 5 (51:46):
Why they conceded that first goal because most of them
are all in the Dutch half.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
You're talking about the guys in the white shirts, not
the orange shirts. Yeah, are on attack. Yeah, Oh my goodness,
it's a revolution. It's news talks. Heb costing break New
Shorks he be Now, I am perfectly aware that, of
course Winter Peters as a minister, can't advocate for something publicly,
but he can walk into cabinet tables and say, guys,

(52:10):
what are we doing about this Northport thing? That we
seem to be shooting ourselves in the foot. And that's
what I'd liked to hear. Have you noticed that in
New Zealand when it rains, it pours, a pylon falls
down due to incompetence, and then Transpower hides behind the
law instead of repaying customers for the lost business. Where's
your empathy? Kerry Raw gets its fairy replacement program canned

(52:31):
and promptly a Faery runs a ground when it rains
at pause, and then there's Darling Tana, so we know
all about her. That's been that's been a wonderful week
to be on air, and I know that Mike wished
he was on air, but just to have this unravel
What has unraveled is of course rachel Bert's report, of
which the executive summary has fallen into the media's hands.

(52:53):
It has yet to be made public, but it has
been obtained. In it, Darling Tanner acknowledges she confronted a worker,
and later she admits she acted in appropriately. So the
media has gone and contacted this worker and he has
confirmed the incident. Here is the incident. Police were called.

(53:16):
Police were called. Police were called after an angry confrontation
between Darlene Tana Tana and a migrant worker, in which Taner,
and this is out of the executive summary as well,
admitted her Mama Bear instincts got the better of her.

(53:40):
The worker claimed, and he's confirmed this to stuff he claimed.
Tanner approached him at his new employer's premises at his
new employer's premises in March twenty twenty three, threatening defamation
action against him if he persisted in an employment complaint
against her husband's bike business. Now the argument is that

(54:03):
Darlene danna, I'm not involved with Hubby's business. I don't
do anything with Hubby's business. And here she is going
for a bit of a wonder to a former employer's
new employer, threatening him with legal action and defamation action,
acting like a mama bear and being lippy. Look, there's
all sorts of little tales about Wayhicki wharves and Devenport

(54:28):
bike stores and all sorts of things, and yeah, Hobby's there,
but also Darlene is there as well. And there is
an obvious question that exists here. I mean, how many
of you have not been involved, or know about, or
have helped out with your spouse's business and your workplace.
You've all done it. So for Darlene Taner to come

(54:49):
out and say I know nothing about my husband's business
has always stretched belief. By the way, the sooner the
Greens release this entire thing, the better they want Darlene gone.
This will be the final nail in the coffin. Tales
like this until Darlene realizes, because of the shame, there's

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no way she can sit there in the house with
everyone glaring at her, with everybody laughing on the TV
at her. There'd be no way she can keep on going,
even if she joined another party, because the facts are there,
and they're there, and we just would like to see
them in full. Please, Chloe, Please, it's nine minutes to eight.

(55:36):
This is news Talk's head.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
Been Andrews on them my asking breakfast with Alveda retirement
Communities News.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
Tom said, Andrew says, Jackie, why aren't you talking about
Cassie A Casey Costello and her dishonesty and having to
apologize to Radio New Zealand. Yes, I do have that
right here and I will run it through you very shortly.
But first, this morning, New Zealand's most Attractive employer has
been revealed. It's the second year in a row that
they've won, so they'll make the company happy. And guess

(56:04):
what it is? Can I have a drum roll in
New Zealand. It's the eighth time they've won up second
year in a row. Running out through the findings, as
Rand stands, National director Richard Kennedy, who've done the survey?
Hello Richard? Now, Andrew, what makes you Air New Zealand
so good?

Speaker 22 (56:22):
What makes that air New Zealand's so good. Well, firstly,
congratulations to their New Zealand for being recognized as New
Zealand's most Attractive place to work once again this year,
recognized for their financial health, solid reputation and attractive salary
and benefit. So I guess the wind reinforces their position
as an iconic brand and it's remained resilient through really

(56:44):
challenging times.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
Well you can say that again because most people are
complaining about how high they air fears are and what's
happening with a lot of the things when it comes
to being a traveler. But I guess to work, these
good absolutely work.

Speaker 22 (56:56):
That's good. Yeah, they've worked extremely hard in terms of
making it a great place the work. You know, I'm
providing strong work life balance, attractive salary and benefits and
good training, but also equity as well. And I think
equity is something which has come to the four in
this year's research, the equity, diversity, belonging, inclusion. It is
something which is prevalent throughout the New Zealand society and

(57:18):
community at this moment in time. And I think around
fifty percent of the people that were surveyed in this
research said that they wouldn't work for an organization unless
they were values aligned and had equity at the forefront
of their proposition.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Well, one of the.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
Interesting things I found about your surveyors that forty percent
of New Zealanders have not received inflation compensation from the
current employer. And while you can understand that because that
could actually drive employers to the wall, at the same time,
that's the.

Speaker 22 (57:43):
Thing, Yeah, it is effectively is affecting people. You know,
the market at this moment in time, with the current
economic turbulence, is impacting the fluidity of the job market.
I think the employers really need to look at their
value proposition and their brand proposition and in implement you know,
strong work life balance, attractive salary benefits as much as

(58:04):
they can as possible, good training so offset you know,
if they are unable to increase salaries alongside inflation, look
at their training and also, you know, job security, which
is something which obviously everybody's looking for at this moment
in time.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
Because for to Kennedy from Randstands, congratulations in New Zealand
and other companies like PEWC they're up a whopping forty places.
Oh we've got some cool jazz, because our guest next
our is a cool jazz player by the name of
Herbie Hancock, eighty four years of age, piano player for

(58:40):
the Best Mind Davis Quintet, the second one from sixty
three to sixty eight, Managast Rocket the instrumental. He's coming
to New Zealand in October and he's going to talk
to me next hour and we'll play some cool.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
Jazz, demanding the answers from the decision makers. Andrew Dickens
on the My casting Breakfast with Jaguar the Art of
Performance News Talk said, b.

Speaker 15 (59:20):
Remember this.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
Remember the video with all the half robots. Somehow they've
been cut in half and they were dancing. This is Rocket.
This is by Herbie Hancock. Herbie Hancock, jiannist, composer, educator,
icon credited with redefining the world of jazz and electronic
jazz rock like this. Miles Davis, who employed him, said
there's no better pianist, but it's come after him. He

(59:52):
was a member of Miles's most revered quintet. He's given
us classic tunes like Cantaloupe Island. We played that before
the news and this. He is a living legend and
he's coming back to New Zealand. He came here in
twenty nineteen, but he's now going to be here again.
October Orkand of Wellington and Herbie Hancock joins me.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Now, hello, Herby, Hey, how are you great? Great to
see you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
I'm really good and really good to see you. You
look great were You are a living legend who looks
very much alive. And you look very sharp my ad,
though I probably should say you're looking cool.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
I'm glad to be lookable.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
And how old are you these days?

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Eighty four?

Speaker 17 (01:00:35):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
Your birthday's April the twelfth, which is one day after mine.
You're an aries brainchild of the universe, and you're still
on the road.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Why, I'm crazy, That's right. I like being on the road.

Speaker 23 (01:00:55):
It's it's fine. It's hard work, so rewarding. I get
a chance to meet people from New Zealand, you know,
and people from all over the world, get a chance
to perform for them, express myself musically and include them.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
In the performance.

Speaker 11 (01:01:23):
You know.

Speaker 23 (01:01:23):
It's so the performance is different every night.

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
Are you still pushing the boundaries?

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
I hope?

Speaker 23 (01:01:31):
So I try to challenge. If I'm not, I just
I try to challenge myself every night.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
You were a child prodigy back in the day. You
played Mozart with the Chicago Symphony Orchestra at the age
of eleven. But somehow you're classically trained. Somehow the jazz
got in. Now, how did the jazz.

Speaker 23 (01:01:52):
Get in and snuck in somewhere? And just kind of
captured me when I was in high school, even though
I was I started out actually in college as a

(01:02:13):
not as a music major, but electrical engineering. That that
was the path I took, and which makes you know,
it's technological age that we're living in now, so exciting.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
For me, and that came out later in new music too.

Speaker 23 (01:02:32):
I got it the synthesizers so easily because I understood
the language.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
Of how they work.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
Yeah, you played with Miles from sixty three to sixty eight.
It's I understand it's working with him is wonderful and
difficult all at the same time, very unique, and he
always challenged you, what was it like working with Miles
Davis in his best band?

Speaker 23 (01:02:54):
It could not have been better. Working with Miles actually
was beyond my wildest dreams I had, you know, thought
of and you know, maybe dreamed of playing with any
other musician but Miles. I never even dreamed of playing

(01:03:17):
with Miles, because I thought it was that was impossible,
so I even considered it. So when I was actually
hired by Miles, it was I'd already surpassed my dreams
and I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
I understand it for I kind of blue. For instance,
all the all the guys turned up and they never
seen the music, never seen any of it. And then
he talked about stuff and then set them down, and
then seeing go for gold?

Speaker 14 (01:03:43):
Was it like that?

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
And your itseration too.

Speaker 23 (01:03:47):
Uh, It was like as though somebody had bought a
basket of of gold coins, you know, in front of
me were working with Miles. But you know, I'll tell
you one thing that really was a huge inspiration to me.

(01:04:13):
What happened was I remember playing at the club in
New York called it the Village Vanguard, and I noticed
that Miles at one point in one of the songs,
he played something that I could tell that he heard

(01:04:35):
what I had done for him to play the notes
that he chose. And it dawned on me that Miles
was listening to me. If I hadn't come to that realization,
I would have gotten I would have gotten fired.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Yeah, I found out Miles hired me because he wanted
hear me.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
I'm talking with Herbie Hancock, who's coming to New Zealander
and October. We're back after the break This is news Talks.
Here beat the Mike Hosking breakfast, It's news Talks. He
be My very special guest is Herbie Hancock. Boy, tell
me a little bit about Rocket, because there's a lot
of New Zealanders who saw that on our TV shows.
We saw the video of the TV shows with the

(01:05:21):
crazy old robots cutting half doing the crazy old dance
and we all crazy old danced around to it and
there was like nothing we'd ever heard before. So tell
me about Rocket. Where did that come from?

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
Well, actually.

Speaker 23 (01:05:36):
I had a guy working for me started an assistant.
But he's a very bright guy, there's why. And he
loved all kinds of music. He was younger than me,
and he always wanted to explore what's happening with the

(01:05:57):
underground scene. And he found these two guys in New York.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
That were part of that, the.

Speaker 23 (01:06:09):
New underground scene that was happening, Bill Laswell and Michael Beinholm,
and they had a group and they were producing other
people's music and producing their own, and he thought they
would be great to do one of my records, one

(01:06:32):
of my albums. And I had never heard of them.
I didn't know what they had done, and so what
I said was, okay, if they don't mind doing it
on spec in other words, whatever they presented me, if
I don't have to use it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
With that that I said, They said great. Anyway, they
prepared some.

Speaker 23 (01:06:56):
Stuff, recorded some stuff on tape, and and flew from
New York to LA you know, when I have my studio,
and they started playing with the tape of one of
the things.

Speaker 8 (01:07:13):
And I.

Speaker 23 (01:07:18):
I heard scratching on it. It wasn't the first time
I heard it. I actually only heard scratching for the
first time a few weeks before that, because some young
friend of mine turned me on to that that sound
for another record and by a guy named Malcolm McLaren.

(01:07:41):
The record called Buffalo Guys. That was the first record
I heard with scratching on right. And as soon as
I heard that sound, that sound actually reminded me of
some things we might have used with the one DC band,
the Space Band, I said, Okay, let's do this anyway,
we continue. I wrote a melody for it. We put

(01:08:03):
the whole thing together, and when it was released much
took all of our surprise was it was a gigantic hit.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
Gigantic we never ever.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
Expected anything like that.

Speaker 23 (01:08:24):
And then people were all break dancing and they all
wanted to break dance to Rocket.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
That was the thief I heard.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
You actually took the tape downtown and you stuck at
it in a boom box and you played it and
some kids started going off to it, and you suddenly
thought to yourself, there are hit.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
Yeah it was. I didn't know it was going to
be hit. I didn't know, but other people knew.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
Yeah, absolutely, the kids who wanted to dance it. Hey, Herbie,
it's fantastic that you're coming down, that you're bringing a
bit of history down to New Zealand so that we
can all witness it in your first hand. You look great,
you sound great, You've always had a good Thank you
so much for your time.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
Today, Thank you so much, too great talking to you.

Speaker 14 (01:09:11):
Oh, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
The tour is going to start at Aucan's coming to
kind of with Theatre October the eighth. Then Michael Fowlers
ends it in Willington October the ninth. Then it's off
to Australia. This is your chance to see a legend,
probably the last time a little bit of cant loop Islands.
You may remember this plus three the band, an Ingish
rap band actually did this simple this and it became

(01:09:32):
a huge hit because Hervey's music is forever. It's a
twenty and this this news talk, saidb.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
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Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
News Talk said b.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
It is now eight twenty four right the Associate Health
Minister Casey Costello has been severely reprimanded by the Chief Armwoodsman,
that's Judge Peter Busher, and he's going to force her
to apologize to Radio New Zealand for trying to keep
information about tobacco and vaping policy secret. You may remember

(01:11:25):
that in late December, Radio New Zealand made an Official
Information Act request asking for all documents sent, held or
received by Casey Costello relating to tobacco control and vaping policy.
Costello then refused to release any of these documents at all.
She cited a cause on the OIA protecting confidential advice
tended by ministers and officials. And we all talked about this.

(01:11:48):
We talked about where's the official advice that you're getting,
and we made an OIA when we tried to find
out about it, but it was denied to us. Well,
the chief on Boodsman has said that Casey Costello's actions
and withholding that information were unreasonable and contrary to the law.
And so now she has to apologize to the media

(01:12:11):
for trying to do their job to find out stuff
for you, and Casey Costello has been told off for
trying to keep us from finding out stuff about what
she was doing for you. Now, this is an important story.
Well you know it's an important story anyway, but it
goes back through the ages. The last government was bad
this as well. The last government was atrocious at answering

(01:12:33):
OIA complaints. Also Laguima ones as well, if you're into that,
but that's another issue. But yeah, OIA complaints, you file
them and they just wouldn't come back because people didn't
want to tell the truth. They didn't want to tell
the truth to the media.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:12:49):
Well, now we've got a new government. And you may
remember when this government came and everyone said, oh hurrah,
the grown ups are in charge. Let's get rid of
that previous lot who claimed they were open, honest and transparent.
It's had some real people in there and on. Don't
you know it's the same tricks being played because you
can change you can change the leopard, but you can't
change the spots, can you now? And by the way,

(01:13:13):
it's an apology from the politicians for not telling the
truth to the media, where most people say it's the
other way around. And that's satisfying because that's the truth.
Oh look some more jazz. Simply come mister Rod a little.
I'm pretty sure he is not relaxed at the moment
because he'll be watching England versus the Netherlands, the euro
semi final score?

Speaker 5 (01:13:33):
Are you still one?

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
All?

Speaker 6 (01:13:35):
A little bit of desperation creeping in for both sides now,
a little bit of argie bargie.

Speaker 3 (01:13:39):
Rod's not going to like us calling a I'm busy.

Speaker 5 (01:13:43):
Well, hopefully he'll We'll see what happens.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
He's next, your.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
Trusted source for news and for you. Andrew Dickens on
the Mike asking breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, doing real
estate differently since nineteen seventy three used tog.

Speaker 3 (01:14:08):
Said b It's twenty three to nine. I'm Andrew and
Mike is back on Monday. He's on holiday. Earlier this morning,
I was talking about Northport and how they will refused
and permission to expand. They wanted to expand their port
become a medium density container terminal, make jobs, make business.
They were turned down by Independent Commissioners because they wanted
to do an eleven point seven hectare reclamation of land

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that was considered to have too much impact. I like
to thank Mike for sending me an email because he
pointed out more stuff that's in that decision which I
didn't know about, and it's to do with it eleven
point seven hectares because apparently the Tongue to Feneware were
also strongly opposed to the expansion Patujarakeke to Parafo and
nine e. Why we're all against it? They reckon there

(01:14:54):
will be advert or the commissioners we can there be
adverse effects on the cultural values of the tongue in
to Fenua because of you know, the land and the
sea and the expansion and all that sort of stuff.
There's all sorts of loss of recreational venues and traditional
areas in the coastal marine area. They thought there was
significant and irreversible. Yes, there was new marine areas to
be created with new Land to be created. But I

(01:15:14):
just asked Tungua to Finowa and Patujalakeke and Taparafo and
NIGHTI why do you want jobs?

Speaker 8 (01:15:21):
Or that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
Simple question? Twenty one to nine.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind
for New Zealand business.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
From the UK. He's come to the phone rod little Hello,
good on.

Speaker 24 (01:15:36):
In How you doing good?

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
How are you doing?

Speaker 24 (01:15:39):
Yeah, that's about at all. Everyone's in thrall at the moment,
because of course we have a Neue government. The government
has been in power for five days, six days, and
they still have an awful lot of good will with them.
So far, not much has happened. We've had Keir Starmer,
the labor leader, and the new prime minister, a point

(01:16:01):
of women's minister who doesn't actually know what the woman is.

Speaker 8 (01:16:04):
This is.

Speaker 24 (01:16:06):
Adelie's dogs, who could not describe a woman properly. She
sinks a woman possibly could have a penis for example.

Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
Yes, we had those tricks here as well, and that
has actually helped people get some economic liverage out of
the whole thing.

Speaker 24 (01:16:23):
What else you got, yeah, yeah, yes, yes, absolutely. It's
an interesting thought though, isn't it. But he's also been
furiously driving around the country he's visiting. He's been visiting Wales,
Northern Ireland, Scotland as well as England, finding out from
the first ministers of those countries what they want from him.

(01:16:47):
There's a plan already out to build one point five
million houses on our England's green and pleasant and despite
the fact actually that we have a housing surface at
the moment that a housing shortage is a housing crisis,
but that's affordability is not really about provision. But generally
there's still an awful lot of happiness people. The friend

(01:17:09):
you keep hearing is a blast. Grown ups are in
the room. So we've moved from a chaotic, catastrophic Conservative
government to a government which is at least managerial. Yes,
and I think that that is that is what what
has got the support of the people.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
And we spoke about that before. You know, now the
grown ups are but we also spoke about the fact
that it's really just a Conservative Party collapse that actually
gave them the seats, gave them the treasury benches. But
I'm also seeing Richie soon because this is a big
story for me, is you know, what the hell and
where do the Conservatives go from here? And I see
that Richie Soon has been speaking in Parliament briefly, and

(01:17:47):
I see that people are commenting that he's he's speaking gently,
with empathy, with warmth and with wisdom, and where the
hell was that before?

Speaker 24 (01:17:54):
Well indeed, but that was also true, of course, of
the handover from Soon after Star, and that it was
done with a degree of grace. I think we've got
to accept that he has a fair amount of grace
and a fair amount of sensibility that perhaps was missing

(01:18:14):
from some of his predecessors. So he has got that.
Where does a Tory party go from here?

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
We have.

Speaker 24 (01:18:24):
MPs having a go at some of the runners and riders.
So at the moment, Kenny Badenock is clearly out in front.
She's a right wing, she's black, she represents a seat
in the southeast of England. She would be popular for
many many people. Swellop Bratherman has been attacked by some

(01:18:45):
people in the party for being alienating to voters, though
that seems to be a bit rough and she hasn't
really had a chance to put herself before the voters.
But it seems to me that whatever happens, you will
end up with a concert revative party leader who is
from the right of the party.

Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
Meanwhile, the new government is trying to achieve a rapprosh
Mont with Europe.

Speaker 24 (01:19:10):
Yes, And the great worry for many people in this
country is how is how far that rappross monk may go.
Because of course the Clear Star was an avid remainer
and the Labor Party itself was very very pro remain
and there is a worry that that whatever we do, yes,
there will be a raprosh Wan with Europe, and that's

(01:19:31):
probably needed. But we don't want to get back into
bed with the European Union.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
Why not?

Speaker 24 (01:19:37):
Of course we don't like it. We voted to get
away from it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
There we go, q D done. It is now seventeen
to nine and Ron, thank you so much for your
time today. And if you go back to the game,
because it's quite quite tense. This is England versus the Netherlands.
It's one nil and we've got what you mean one?
Did I say one?

Speaker 11 (01:19:58):
All?

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
And what we've got how many minutes to play regular time?

Speaker 6 (01:20:02):
I've probably about another thirteen forty minutes something like that, including.

Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
The supposed it will added extra time. And then we
go into to more extra time and then we have
the penalty shoot out. I will tell you about that
if we need to, if I get time later on.
But Harry Kane's off. They've taken off the striker, which
he is the number one taker of penalties and if
they end out in a penalty strike scenario, you would

(01:20:26):
think you'd want to Harry Kine there, but he ain't
going to be there now, So on it goos. It
is sixteen to nine. This is NEWSTALKSB.

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
Hosting breakfast.

Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
What is it sixteen days to the Olympics. I cannot wait.
This is Newstalk's B. It is now thirteen to nine.
I'm Andrew Dickens. So orkand FC is coming to the
A League. Yesterday the worst secret in the world was confirmed.
They're going to play the games at Mount Smart Stadium.
Sponsor there is Go Media, the contractors for five years,
the owner of course, the organd Council. The first time
now play at home is in October. Mount Smart is

(01:20:59):
a football ground. I know we think of it as
a league ground. It's a football ground. The Knights used
to play there. I remember Winton Rufer playing his last
games of professional football there back in the day. Ground
was also pivotal in our run to the World Cup
back in nineteen eighty two. I remember being a kid
going along to those sorts of things that was in
the day. He's had one grand stand and the rest
of the ground was the grass slopes of an extinct volcano.

(01:21:21):
I remember thirty thousand people gathering and slipping their way
down the grass slopes of a volcano watching us go
all the way to Spain.

Speaker 5 (01:21:28):
It was great.

Speaker 3 (01:21:29):
So welcome orkand DEFC. Now their billionaire owner of the team,
Bill Foley, who is a sports professional, has always talked
about building his own boutique stadium in downtown Auckland, and
I say more power to him. I know he's being
connected with some of the current proposals, but just do it.
Uglands stadium woes have always been exacerbated by their ownership
by the council. Council owned stadiums are okay maybe for

(01:21:54):
big regional stadiums or national stadiums, or for an event
like a Commonwealth Games or an Olympic Games. Often they
then get transferred to private hands. Overseas, most stadiums are
owned and operated by private operators, and most of those
operators are the team owners of the team that plays
there that concentrates their commercial minds. Private stadiums have not
happened in New Zealand. One exception was turning his Bay

(01:22:17):
Park Speedway, which is a twenty thousand seater built in
two thousand and one by Bob Clarkson, who became an
mp He was a speedway nut. He built the stadium
for fifteen million dollars a twenty thousand seater. It's got
the speedway track in the rugby field in the middle
of it as well. He then sold it to the
council back in two thousand and seven. But build a

(01:22:39):
Bob built a stadium. It's been used for MPC and
Super games of rugby that may never have come to
the Bay if Bob hadn't built his arena. Brian Adams
played a concert there every summer. It hosts Bay Dreams.
It is an asset to the place. Bob built it.
If Bob could build it, so can the other Bob,
Bob Foley, And I hope he does because in this
whole thing, one of my great regrets is that Rugby

(01:23:01):
League sold Carlile Park. Back in the day. We could
have had a downtown stadium and nobody valued it. Councilors
are always being forced to build the stadiums. Meanwhile, we
have the augand Council kicking out the Speedway and Pontsibly
Rugby Club from Western Springs Stadium and asking if anyone
wants to take over management of the place.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
And B. G.

Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
Williams is complaining about it, and the Speedway's complaining about it.
Of course they are. But you know the challenge there
is to take over the place. I know you don't
have the money. Find someone who does. Bob built a stadium.
Maybe private operators can too. Give Bob a call. He's
still alive. He's living in Toylaninger, he's eighty five and
he still has his left testicle. And if you know,

(01:23:42):
you know, if you can remember the days of build
a Bob in Parliament? Is there a score?

Speaker 13 (01:23:49):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:23:49):
You will scream in my ear when there's a score. Yes, okay,
there's no score. It's one all it's ten to nine.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
Andrew Dickens on the my costing breakers with Bailey's rooms.

Speaker 3 (01:24:01):
There are twenty twenty four semi final England Netherlands ninetieth minute.
You won't believe what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
Oh what kids?

Speaker 19 (01:24:13):
God, ninety minutes England, I've been delarious drama.

Speaker 3 (01:24:29):
Oh my goodness. May we are currently we had two
minutes of out of time added on and we're currently
we were one minute of at a time on when
we started playing that clip. We're almost there. It looks
like England is going all the way to the final.
That's coming home, baby, It's coming home.

Speaker 22 (01:24:43):
And can you.

Speaker 3 (01:24:44):
Imagine just how much beer suddenly ended out in the
air in that moment that we just played to you
just now they would be chucking their beer in the
air everywhere. Congratulations England so far six to nine trending.

Speaker 1 (01:24:58):
Now chemist where keeping Kiwi's healthy all year round.

Speaker 3 (01:25:02):
I wasn't picking that, you know, I was not picking that.
I have not been a fan of England this tournament.

Speaker 23 (01:25:07):
But there we go.

Speaker 3 (01:25:08):
So the Democrats are worried about Biden because you know,
he mumbles and can't kiss his words out and he
freezes and all that sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
Don't worry.

Speaker 3 (01:25:15):
Republicans are also worried about Donald Trump because he sometimes
has trouble getting stuff out. He's been criticized for being
all over the place in his latest rally, so he's
an example.

Speaker 11 (01:25:25):
Did anyone ever see the lovely movie Silence of the Lambs.

Speaker 17 (01:25:27):
Did you see it?

Speaker 3 (01:25:29):
Did you ever hear of Hannibal Elector, who's a lovely man.

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
He would love to have you for dinner.

Speaker 3 (01:25:34):
He will take you.

Speaker 11 (01:25:36):
You had many people for dinner, Well, we have for
a lot of people coming in. They always say, oh,
that's terrible that Trump would say he is.

Speaker 17 (01:25:43):
Rambling about Hannibal Elector.

Speaker 5 (01:25:44):
No, I'm not rambling.

Speaker 23 (01:25:45):
That's who.

Speaker 3 (01:25:45):
We are allowing people from insane.

Speaker 11 (01:25:49):
Asylums and mental institutions into our country by the tens
of thousands, and they're closing them down in other countries
because you know, the cost savings and all of the savings.

Speaker 3 (01:26:02):
Oh yeah, it didn't feel like dribble. There was a disconnect,
but I thought it was pretty good.

Speaker 8 (01:26:07):
Really, well, what was this point?

Speaker 3 (01:26:08):
I am not sure about Hannibal Lecter. But the other
point is not so crazy people are coming in.

Speaker 5 (01:26:12):
Well, yeah, but that's been debunked.

Speaker 6 (01:26:15):
How many times that I know that, the thousands of
people being let out of midle ASILs.

Speaker 3 (01:26:20):
Now well, look, look, we've got to the point now
where the debunking and the veracity of stuff is not
at point it's whether he can just open his mouth
and function, and even more so whether he can walk,
and whether he can make a fist, and whether he
can go upstairs and downstairs and remember exactly who's on
a stage with him at any given time. That's the
point where at Glenn, at this current juncture of democracy.

Speaker 5 (01:26:41):
So Hannibal Lecter, fine by me, Okay, I can.

Speaker 3 (01:26:46):
Tell you one other thing. I'm feeling really hungry right now.
To be honest, it's time for me to go my
thanks to Glenn and Asa. I'm the producer, and I'll
set up producer who works at night who I never see.
In fact, I don't even know the name. Could someone
give me the name please?

Speaker 5 (01:26:59):
Libby?

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
Thank you Libby.

Speaker 3 (01:27:01):
I know you do some hard hours and you write
some great stuff, so thank you very much.

Speaker 25 (01:27:04):
As the loneliest job in the world for the loneliest
producer for the Breakfast Show, I have been a set
up producer of the Breakfast Show, tearing my hair out
at eleven o'clock at night, wishing that someone would just
answer their phone and agree to talk to my host
the next morning.

Speaker 3 (01:27:16):
It is a soul. That's a thankless job. So that's
why I'm thanking Libby.

Speaker 5 (01:27:21):
Sam producer Sam, he used to be a setup producer.

Speaker 3 (01:27:25):
The greatest people have done the hardest yards Glenn.

Speaker 6 (01:27:29):
And Sam had to do it during COVID as well.
So coming into this building was already a lonely situation anyway,
and then really not having anybody to talk to.

Speaker 3 (01:27:38):
Ah yeah, yeah, it was the tumbleweeds that got me,
just walking down the corridor and something.

Speaker 15 (01:27:42):
Just you know.

Speaker 5 (01:27:43):
And then right, so what are we leading with today?

Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
Okay, by the way, I've got enough time to read
one text that came through after talking about private stadium
and somebody said, and by the way, he said, don't
forget Highland's Motorsport in Cromwell and Hampton Downs and of
course top Or Motorsport, the owned great sporting events. Why
does the counsel one of the government always have to
do it. There's business there, there's money there. Come on,

(01:28:08):
Bob Foley, build us a boot tick stadium. Don't ask
me where. I don't care, it's your problem.

Speaker 5 (01:28:13):
Finally called full time on this game.

Speaker 3 (01:28:15):
Congratulations England's I'll see you tomorrow. My name is Andrew Dickins.
This is the assortsp When you're an avenue, then am
I up in your head, making.

Speaker 23 (01:28:23):
You crazy, Tell me, pray me. Are you banging down me?

Speaker 21 (01:28:28):
Here?

Speaker 19 (01:28:28):
Are you banging down me?

Speaker 1 (01:28:32):
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