Full Show Podcast: 5 August 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're trusted ho the News for Entertainment's opinion and fighting
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
B oning you.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Welcome today the Big Mats reset after the Big failed
in passing at a call for less politics when it
comes to begin for striture thinking Sir John Key on
the naps to get together over the weekend and how
they're traveling three D printed house. Yes, it's underway, it
is the future. Are the lads in the commentary box
after right? Mitch mccannon the States and Steve Price out
of a straight Pasky Welcome to a brand new week.
Seven past six. Rachel Reeves, who is the new British Chancellor,

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has found she claims twenty two billion by way of
a fiscal black hole. As a result, she says they
need to put the taxes up. Nikola Willis, New Zealand
Finance Minister, found similar issues. They were called here fiscal clips.
She put the taxes down and that is the difference
and attitude to the same problem across the Tasman Currently
there's a debateo a university fees debt till death is

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the dramatic moniker they've attached to that particular problem. The
problem is they see it being an arts degree has
cracked the fifty thousand dollar mark fifty thousand as and
three years at about seventeen thousand ish per year, hence
the fifty thousand in total. We of course charge similar
amounts for education, and we too have had the costs
of university debate, the debt debate, but we seem to
have settled, even if not happily, on the fact that

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debt is not the end of the world, and the
bulk ie about seventy five percent of the true cost
of a degree is subsidized by the taxpayer. The debt
tal death tag is of course emotional blackmail because it
isn't real. If you incur that level of debt, say
the age of twenty one, and you work for the
next forty five years, and you don't pay that debt
off more full you. As I've explained to our kids
a number of times, the figures at the age of nineteen,

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twenty and twenty one that seem massive with age, experience
and time will end up being normalized. At university, you've
earned what Pocker money, maybe some weekend or holiday pay.
You have not worked in the real world. Gotten pay
rise has got promotions, climb the career ladder. Others, of course,
leave university with debts a lot larger than that. But
here's your danger. If you pedal the negative, if you

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scare kit, then guess what the outcome's going to be.
If nothing else, The specter of university dit may well
sharpen the mind around choice, as we've discovered with that
mad fees free nuttiness under labor and achieves nothing when
someone else pays the bill. You attach no value to it.
A lot of life is how you see it is
university DIBt, dit or death or an investment in skills.

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An opportunity is twenty two billion a reason to raid
pockets or tidy the place up with some savings and
physical discipline. You see, Attitude is the difference between a
problem or a solution.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Who news of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
If you haven't caught up with it over the week
in britain's a mess.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
So we've seen ricks and pavements jug up from the
floor here from the street, chucked at police. We're seeing
other missiles being thrown at the police as well. Bottles
there as well as you can hear.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
The new PM's laying it on thick. Those that have
participated in this violence will face the full force of
the law.

Speaker 5 (02:59):
The police will be making arrests and convictions.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Now this is how the police is seeing it.

Speaker 6 (03:05):
You break the law, you injure people, you damage property
and your human rights in that respect a void you
are not allowed to commit criminal ass.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Then stideside a couple of things. One you is growing
more concerned abou rhetoric from IRUN over Israel. Look, when
a supreme leader says he's going to avenge, we have
to take that seriously. To the Rice camera is interviewing
prospects this week with the peace job. Meantime, Trump's in Atlanta.

Speaker 7 (03:32):
She is considered more left wing than crazy Bernie Sanders.

Speaker 8 (03:36):
Look at her and she happens to be really a
low IQ individual.

Speaker 7 (03:40):
She really does.

Speaker 9 (03:41):
She' vowed to ban fracking, she wants the government to
stop people from eating red meat, she wants to get
rid of your cows.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
And j D is still working to dig himself out
of the catwoman rhetoric.

Speaker 10 (03:50):
I recognize that there are a lot of folks even
in the GOP establishment. It's certainly on the far left
who don't like the fact that Donald Trump picked me.
I actually take their criticism as a badge of honor.
Of course, the media is going to attack the people
they fear the most.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Finally, a new study in The Lancet has found that
the incident's rate of seventeen different cancers is two to
three times higher for someone born in nineteen ninety as
opposed to nineteen fifty five.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
The mortality rape for.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Five cancers also higher in younger generations so to study.
So it's obesity, the Western diet, let's crap in a
bag that tevily processed, of course, and environmental toxins as
the main factors, and they tend to be more modern
and that as news of the world of ninety Yeah,
Britain's the complete shambles at the moment are Starmer's blaming
far right thuggery and he said, quote unquote that those
are involved will regret at the courts now open twenty

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four hours a day, more than one hundred and fifty
people have been arrested. Let me give you a quick
run through the towns and cities affected Sunderland, Blackburn, Belfast, Bristol, Manchester, Hule, Liverpool, Leicester,
Leeds Stoke, Nottingham, Blackpool and Portsmouth. Twelve past six thee
my costume breakfast I've dated on Venezuela for you shortly.
First country issues they're warning over traveling to the UK.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
I run.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Malaysia is warning their citizens to remain vigilant. Fourteen past six,
right the club's management, Greg Smith, morning to you.

Speaker 11 (05:09):
Good morning, Mike.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Now those job numbers, we didn't like the look of those.
If you worried about a recession in America.

Speaker 12 (05:14):
Yeah, that's what I certainly raised years over the downtown.
So your non fun payer support on Friday show that
the US economy credit one hundred and fourteen thousand jobs
in July, well down the revised one Sivney nine thousand,
and that's one eighty five thousand thousand. It was actually
the weakest place of private sector occuring in sixteen months.
Healthy was strong, but other than that was pretty weak.

(05:35):
It was fifty five thousand jobs there. Unemployment rate Mike
itt edged up to four point three percent. That's the
high since October twenty one, earning scrape.

Speaker 13 (05:42):
That was weak.

Speaker 12 (05:43):
So we know the feeds have been trying to call
the labor market, but you know, have they gone too far?
So July editions are around half the monthly average over
the past twelve months, So you're going to get that
rate come in septemb by Lcksburg. Is it going to
come too late to avoided downto And we also had
that weak manufacturing print as well this week. So but
maybe a bit of context, Mike, just before we get
to despondent. So, yeah, blaming on the weathers well known phrase.

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We had Hurricane Barrel having an impact during the month,
So around about a million people probably not being at
work due to bad weather, and that's almost four and
forty one thousand non farm payer of workers. And now
that's not just a record for the month of July,
but more than ten times the July average dating back
to nineteen seventy six. And reb about a million people
also said they can work part time due to the weather,

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so that was yeah, one factor. A lot of people
also said the job loss was temper so they might
come back. That was almost half the overall increase unemployed.
And also the reason unemployment rates going up Mike as well,
is that a lot of people are coming back to
the workforce, so that's driving up unemployed. So presuming the
cost of living a factor. You look at prime age
workers that's between twenty five and fifty four years old.

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Participation rate there went to eighty four percent, high since
two thousand and one.

Speaker 11 (06:52):
For males ninety percent.

Speaker 12 (06:54):
That's the first time it's been there since two thousand
and nine. Also, some other bright spots construction work that
was actually going along pretty well, twenty five thousand new jobs.
That's actually a leading indicator of the economy. Any event,
We're gonna get another payrol support before the FED meets
next in September, but at this stage you'd have to
think it's a half percent.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Rate cup Okay. And then we come to well various
results for what thetel the worst day in fifty years.

Speaker 12 (07:19):
Yeah, Untel had it had a shock, a massive guidance
to myth so that she is down in Memoth twenty
six percent. Obviously, they've been trying to get back into it,
into the AI game like a lot of others, and
it's coming at a cost. So the quarterly loss was
one point six billion. Said they're going to lay off
over fifteen percent of their staff. They've got a ten
billion dollar cost reduction plan going and not going to

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pay a fourth quarter dividend. Sales were down one percent,
so you think, god, that's is there really sort of
fag given that, but yeah, ais used to deliver the
towel when a lot of customs are still turning to
likes of video and a investments coming at a cost.
Also having a bad day. It was Amazon there she
is down nearly nine percent, sales up ten percent. One
hundred and forty eight billion is actually doing quite well,

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but advertising that came out short, so you discount sights
such as Tema were certainly having an impact. They had
sales growth of eight to eleven percent, but that disappointing.
But one stock that did hold up well on avoided
the car on Friday Mike was Apple Quarley revenues up
five percent. That's made a return to growth after the
slump at the start of this year. Need to come
about eight percent. Twenty one point four billion iPhones are

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almost half for revenues. They held up expected still do
on one percent. And there you've got the You've got
the iPhone sixteen nextly on its way and September that's
going to be full of AI features, so that pretent
she's going to drive another wave of upgrades. And yeah,
iPhones sort of doing being an expected also iPads they're
already doing well on the upgrade. So they about twenty
four percent year every year. Apple Services that did pretty well.

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And all this is despite China not doing so well.
Mike's the sales declined there six and a half percent.
She has held up well, but yeah, clearly some are selling.
Warren Buffet at Bikshire Halfway said over the weekend that
there's the slash Shapple steak by almost fifty percent in
the coll.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
Of Hey, just give us an update on Friday that warehouse.
But that fell at the first hurdle, as they said,
is that over.

Speaker 12 (09:07):
Well, no, stay tuned. I think that it could be
more to come on the story. So she is down
fifteen percent. They didn't get the seventy five percent, or
they don't even look like they're going to get anywhere
near the seventy five percent. So they haven't had the
shareholder support. I remember Sir Stephen Tindall and his interests
in like can't vote shaholders him been supported. Perhaps no surprise,
it's been viewed as opportunistic. Yeah, we have potentially have
got a right cut on the way to help help

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consumer's conference has been improving a little bit, and yeah,
they've got a bit more focused, you know with Torpedo
seven the marketplace going. So she is Mike, they down
fifteen percent instantly, they're a dollar twenty so it's still
above the mid July levels of a dollar. So I
think advistas are expecting and improved off of the board said,
it looks like it's opened. It's you know the possibility

(09:49):
of that, so you stay tuned and we might get
him at a high.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Brid Okay numbers, So yeah, there's the US markets.

Speaker 12 (09:55):
Are certainly on the back foot, and there's that actually
in ten percent correction Territory from the recent peak that
down two point four percent is and P five hundred
down one point eight percent down, Jones down one and
a half percent is in P five hundred was flat
for the week, down down two percent, down three percent.
Stocks fifty in Europe that was down two point seven percent,
Foo Seed down one point three percent, big fourth for
the NIC. Mike's Japanese tech films are amongst the biggest

(10:20):
loser's second biggest points drop in history there that was
down five point eight percent for the nickey A six
two hundred, down two point one percent. In Australia NZ fifty,
Mike held up a lot better than others, down to two
point two eight percent twelve four to five to three.
Look at the commodities markets, Crube was down two spots
seventy nine seventy three spot fifty two barrel Goal was

(10:41):
down three bucks two four four three and ounce. Look
at the currency markets, the key we was up slightly
against the US fifty nine point six ninety five one
point five against the A dollar down point four percent
against stealing forty six point five. This week, Mike, we've
got the ABA rate decision looks like likely after a
more sort of soft inflation data that which are going

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just going to hold on any sort of increased light
Usings's got Catterpillar, Uber Disney Eli, Lilly muck Stavers back
Home got the unemployment rate expected to rise to four
point seven percent, So we might be locking in that
right cut before the end of the year.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Catch up tomorrow, Greg Smith, Devin Funds Management, Posking. My
fun number for the weekend comes from Berkshire Hathaway. He's
ninety four now old Warren Buffett, and he's got the
problem where you can't find anything to invest in. And
as Greg just said, they sold half a bapple. Anyway,
he's got a cash pile now of two hundred and
seventy six point nine billion, make that about five hundred

(11:35):
billion New Zealand dollars, half a trillion dollars just in
cash doing nothing. Six twenty one was twent.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
The mic Hosking Breakfast.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
A quick update on Venezuela. So they're back on the streets.
But ap as in the Associated Press, they've got hold
of some voting forms, in fact a lot of them.
They processed almost twenty four thousand images of what they
call teley sheets, representing the votes of seventy nine percent
of the voting machines, and all of these printouts is
sort of like shopping receipts, and they are the ultimate

(12:08):
proof of election results. So they've got their hands on those,
equating to about ten point twenty six million votes, and
Gonzalez has got six point eight nine million of those,
which is nearly half a million more than Maduro. So
the tabulation show Madeiro got about three point one to
three on the telly sheets. So they haven't got everything,
but they've got enough to say that this thing's stacked rigged.

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And the US over the weekend said they don't believe it,
as in, they don't believe Maduro, and nobody seems to
believe Madeuro. And the people are on the street, as
I say, in the military aren't involved. The military is
sticking with Madeiro at this particular point in time. But
that's an unfolding story.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Six twenty five trending now as well house your home
of winter essentials.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Now we've got the Netherlands track star called woman called
Femkey Bowl. Femkey Bowl. She's gold medal winner. She's the
anchor of the four by four hundred relay. So in
the race itself she starts well behind the US when
Baton's handed to with the trouble is what happens off
the track has gone viral.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
When you're putting your mind to me, you know exactly
what to do.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
How was that for you?

Speaker 4 (13:09):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (13:09):
It was amazing.

Speaker 5 (13:10):
I mean it was such a strong razor or running
so fast, not of pool running in the.

Speaker 14 (13:14):
Fifties, So I knew I had to go out first.

Speaker 6 (13:16):
I'd look in front of me, so.

Speaker 15 (13:18):
I wanted to be in front him.

Speaker 16 (13:19):
I could hear Alfen she was behid me, So I
was like, okay, this is good.

Speaker 5 (13:22):
Now we keeps going and this crowd is so amazing.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
See is it just me? Or am I? As I
get older? Do I think? Are we making fun of
this woman? Because everyone goes you know what everyone online
is saying. So is that her fault? Anyway? She's she's
not done. Her big event is the four hundred meter
hurdles and she's odds on for gold. The couple of
quick things about the Olympic Games. One Belgian has withdrawn

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from the mixed relay triathlon, which I didn't even know
was a thing, But it is because one of the
contestants women, As it turns out, when she swam in
the women's triathlon, she got sick. Now, whether she got
sick because she swallowed some sin rebel water, who would know.
But anyway, she has got sick. And they're a bit
angsty about all of that too. The unfolding continuing to

(14:10):
unfold boxing story doesn't look that cool because there's the
IOC got letters from the International Boxing people about two
of them, one of the old Jerry and the other
Chinese women, both of whom ironically are through to the
middle round, and so they're going, well, yes, we got
the letter, but we don't like the look of the testing,
so we ignored it. And the rule around the IOC
is all you have to do is produce your passport.

(14:31):
So if your passport says you're a woman, you're a woman,
and that's the end of that. But that it's not
the end of that obviously, and that's before we again.
Then that paddling thing they've also invented where you race
down a you race down a shoot, and that's an
Olympic event as well. The whole thing's gone mad. Anyway,
more on that after eight o'clock for you.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
The newsmakers and the personalities the big names talk to,
like Costing breakfast with the range rover be La designed
to intrigue and use toksa'd be.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Morning, Mike. I'm sure you'll be pleased and wearing two
layers and Marino Willers, frosty white catter morning. I hope
you're having a great day and I am, and thank
you very much for the update. I know it's cold
in certain parts of the country minus five minus four
minus five in Canterbury. I think expected this morning or
has been expected overnight anyway, Shapiro, Kelly and Waltz being
interviewed this week by Carmela Harris. She's got to do
something by the nineteenth. Nineteenth in Chicago's when the convention begins,

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so she'll need to tidy that ticket up. So those
three are traveling to Washington this week to be interviewed.
No one seems sure about Basher and Boodha Didge in
regards to appointments dates, travel times, but we'll get the
update with Mitch shortly twenty three to seven.

Speaker 13 (15:37):
I'm going back now.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
A baut home. But the concern on the coast, the
Grave District Council wants assurances over a government promise and
this was to suspend any new significant natural areas. This
is a major issue in country areas all over the country,
trouble as the legislations yet to pass. It was part
of the government's one hundred day plans, so the potential
cost of having to remap as the law currently stands
remap as in the West Coast right payers a bit exposed.

(16:01):
The Associate Environment Minister Andrew Hoggards with US morning to
you can you offer them any reassurance.

Speaker 17 (16:09):
So I did write a letter to them on Friday
and the other councils they're debating the regional Plan that
just basically emphasized that we are sticking to our commitment that,
as you mentioned, the legislation around preventing the mapping of
new SNAs is progressing through the House, will be passed

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within the next couple of months. But that doesn't help
them with their Regional Policy Statement, which is a local
thing where they've taken a whole bunch of stuff out
of the old the NPS, and I just re emphasized
that we are intending to make changes to that NPS.
That work's going to be very shortly, and you know

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they've made the pragmatic decision, thankfully, to just press pause
on that part until they've got CLIG. You know, we've
made those changes, they can see what those changes are.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
So your reassurance is enough. In other words, I think
they're exercised about the fact the law hasn't changed, therefore
the law is currently still the law. Therefore they have
to adhere to the law.

Speaker 17 (17:08):
Is that the problem, Yeah, pretty much, And unfortunately I
can't go and change the law envitments, much as i'd
like to know.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Where is it at? Literally when you say a couple
of months, we don't know, or are we waiting for
public submissions or where is it.

Speaker 17 (17:21):
At the submissions of it. So this is part of
what we call the RIM Bill one and.

Speaker 18 (17:28):
It is done.

Speaker 17 (17:29):
It's first reading in the House. It's been a select committee.
So it'll be coming back, I believe with reasonable pretty
close to it next month or so for the second reading.
Then we'll have the committee, the whole House and the
third reading. So, assuming everything works normally, should be within

(17:50):
a couple of months that it has fully passed through
the House.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
Because of course, for the coast, I mean, a massive
suathes of their land could be sna couldn't they And
they don't why they don't need.

Speaker 17 (17:59):
That, And it's absolutely ridiculous, I mean very center of
the coasters and the dock state. Anyway, for them to
feel the knee or anyone to feel the need that
they've got to go and capture all these little spots
of trees on private landowners property makes no sense. There's
already have a lot of significant biodiversity that's already protected

(18:21):
down there. Just makes no sense whatsoever to capture all
this private owner own do any.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Of it ever make sense from what the previous government
we're looking to do. All it seemed to do is
create angst in the rural community.

Speaker 17 (18:32):
Credit hell of angst. And when you look at it,
the amount of biodiversity that's locked you know, it's not
locked up by laws and stuff, but farmers have voluntarily
put huge amounts of land into QB two covenants. I
think if you added them all getter that they're like
fiftloads national park in the country. That's massive to me,

(18:53):
or you know, the sensible thing. You've got a clear
desire from farmers out of there to protect what's on
their property, work with them, not impose rules of them.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
Good stuff, all right, So the message has been sent
that the councils can head pause. Andrew Hoggard, an Associate
Environment Minister with US this morning, nineteen minutes away from
seven Pascar, Stateside. I don't know how this works, but
I told you on Thursday or Friday that the Pentagon
to cut a deal with some of the nine eleveners.
And so they're sitting in Guantanamo Bay the trialiet to

(19:26):
be held. One of the things they were facing was,
of course the death penalty they agreed to plead guilty,
and agreeing to plead guilty, they were going to escape
the death penalty. They weren't going anywhere, obviously, they're going
to be held for the rest of their lives. But
having announced that, the Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin over the
weekend then goes and revokes it all, and so I
can't work. I have determined that enlightened the significance of

(19:47):
the decision to enter into pre trial agreements with the accused.
Responsibility for such a decision should rest with me as
the superior authority. I hereby withdraw your authority. He's writing
to Brigadier General's who's an ascular effective immediately, in the
exercise of my authority, I hereby withdraw from the three
pre trial agreements. And my only question about that, I mean,

(20:10):
you can do whatever he wants, obviously, but my only
question is, if you're the Pentagon and you'd cut a
deal with these guys, don't you then go to the
top and go by the way, we're about to announce
this deal, at which point Lloyd Austin will go, no,
you're not, And therefore none of that becomes public and
yet it was seems like a shamble. Eighteen to two.
The Mike Hosking Breakfast Mike, you need to watch you
type here on Netflix explains it all. And it's quite funny.

(20:33):
I've seen it. It is quite good. It's Australian comedy.
It's a bit old, but nevertheless funny. It's funny, isn't it.
Fiscus another Australian comedy if you've never heard of it?
The Ministry of un Gentlemanly Warfare was recommended to me
by Semi over the week. In Semi's recommendations are normally wayward,
but I gave him the benefit of the doubt and
I watched it. Guy Richie quite good. Another recommendation for
this Monday morning, six forty.

Speaker 19 (20:51):
Five International correspondence squid ends at Eye Insurance Peace of
Mind for New Zealand Business.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Which McCann's stateside, how are you, I'm good, Hike, How
are you I'm brew?

Speaker 19 (21:02):
Well?

Speaker 3 (21:02):
Indeed, so Trump Harris on whatever it was, ABC, CBS, NBC.
So we're not doing that, but we might be doing
something on Fox. Do we know where we're at?

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (21:11):
Well, Kamala Harris isn't keen to do that. We know
how consequential. The first debate was Mike between Joe Biden
and Donald Trump pretty much ended Joe Biden's campaign. But
perhaps Trump realizes how much of an impact a bad
performance can have.

Speaker 11 (21:24):
He and Kamala.

Speaker 5 (21:25):
Harris, or originally Joe Biden, were meant to have a
second debate on the tenth of September on ABC News.
But Kamala Harris, she's a Democratic nominee, she wants to
do that, but Donald Trump says no, it's going to
be on Fox a week earlier. So he posted on
social media, I won't see Kamala Harris on September. I'll
see her on September four, or I won't see her
at all. In Kamala Harris's hit back, saying, it's interesting

(21:48):
how any time any place becomes.

Speaker 11 (21:50):
One specific time, one specific place.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
So what's it actually matter? I mean, are the rules
different on Fox than they were on ABC? Or we
don't know that either.

Speaker 5 (21:58):
Well, I think Donald Trump feels that he's going to
get a more friendly audience on Fox News, and Kamala
Harris perhaps wants to stay to the original date. I
don't think there's going to be any debate at the stage,
because it's unlikely that Harris is going to agree to
go on Fox.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Okay, So then we come to the VP wishers. So
she's meeting spar as. I can work out she's meeting
three of the five. What about the four and five?
And where do we know where she's at?

Speaker 5 (22:22):
Well, there's the three favorites that we know of, So
that's Joshapiro, Tim Waltz, and Mark Kelly from Arizona, the
senator there. It's reported that she's interviewing those three in
Washington today, but she's speaking to others on the phone
from that wider group of twelve. It's also reported by
the BBC that these candidates have had to answer up
to two hundred quest of them questions, some of them

(22:42):
very personal, whether or not they can be eligible for
the vice presidency. So she's likely to name that person
tomorrow and they got that campaigning on Tuesday together in Philadelphia.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
What's the sense of the quality of the field, in
other words, of the fib or the three hot favorites.
Is any one of them more than acceptable?

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Well?

Speaker 5 (23:03):
I think the favorite at this stage is Josh Shapiro
from Pennsylvania, and there is really one reason for that,
and that's because Pennsylvania holds a lot of electoral College seats.

Speaker 11 (23:13):
He is very popular there.

Speaker 5 (23:14):
A recent poll showed around sixty three percent people in
Pennsylvania had a favorable view of him, and it's widely
viewed that the Democrats will need to win that state
to win the election, So he's the favorite at the moment.

Speaker 11 (23:26):
This VP Peck has been.

Speaker 5 (23:29):
In part chosen or looked at by Eric Holder, the
format Attorney General has law firm has been charged with
vetting these candidates.

Speaker 11 (23:36):
So it's going to be interesting to see.

Speaker 5 (23:38):
But Tim Waltz is another one kind of a lesser
other candidate, Mike from Minnesota. It's reported that many Democrats
are in favor of him, including Nancy Pelosi, and that
Joe Biden also has a favorable view of him as well.

Speaker 11 (23:49):
So it'll be interesting.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
What is the vibe on Iran? Are they going to
telegraph this? We don't know when are they coming? What
do they do?

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Well?

Speaker 5 (23:57):
We know how the serious the US has taken out.
One of their national security advisors was on AB this
morning and he said that preparing for every possibility, the
US is now sending combat aircraft and missile shooting warships,
one squadron of IF twenty two fighter jets, and an
unspecified number of Navy cruisers and destroyers. So I think
that gives you an indication of how concerned the US

(24:19):
are about tensions in that region.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Let me ask you this much, having been there a while.
You're in New York here, does it feel like the
third most expensive city in the world.

Speaker 11 (24:30):
It does when it comes to rent. Mic It's interesting.

Speaker 5 (24:33):
I think food's a lot cheaper here, but rent is astronomical,
particularly in Manhattan.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
Oh come, I'm good to catch up. We see on Wednesday.
Appreciate it, Mitch McCann. The reason I raise that is
the annual look Who's the most expensive place in the
world to live? Surveys come out, so they take the
cost of living, rent, the aforementioned groceries, restaurant prices, and
local purchasing power, and seven of the ten most expensive
cities in the world are in America. So we'll go

(24:59):
ten through one, because that's always more fun, isn't it.
Ten Chicago, nine Los Angeles, eight Seattle. Who would have thought?
Seven Washington six, Rekivak. I've told you about Ireland before
avoid it like the plague five Boston for San Francisco,
and you've got to live in San Francisco. So not
only do you have to live in San Francisco, it's
expensive to be miserable. Three New York two Zurich, one Geneva.

(25:21):
Would you have said that about America? Ten minutes away
from seven?

Speaker 1 (25:25):
The my costing breakfast with Bailey's real estate newstalks.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
Speaking of the states, in California's specifically, Chevron is the
latest company to move out of California. First time Chevron's
going to be headquartered outside of California since it's founding
more than a century ago. Why because they're crazy in California,
San Ramnas, where they're based. I got a couple of
thousand people there, growing number of companies that are leaving California.
The refusal, the inability to abide by regulatory rules, operating costs, taxes,

(25:53):
all that sort of stuff. Elon Musk is busy moving
SpaceX and X into Texas. A lot of people moving
to Texas. You're basically on the East Coast. You're moving
from places like New York down to Florida, or if
you're on the West coast, you're moving into places like Texas.
Newsom signed. This is what god Elon upset Newsom signed
as in Gavin, it will prohibit school districts from requiring

(26:13):
teachers to inform parents of a child wants to be
identified as a different gender. So that's the sort of
thinking that drives business in California, and a lot of
people like Elon and k say, you know what, don't
worry about it. We'll move and go to somewhere slightly
more normal. And Chevron is the latest company doing that,
five minutes away from seven B.

Speaker 13 (26:31):
The ins and the outs.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
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to the next level.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
The other thing, I'll raise it with the lads. After
eight o'clock, Djokovic cries, So he wins the Golden near cries.
Now before his crying, I would have argued, I'm thinking
it would he rather win Wimbledon or would he rather
win a gold medal? And then I'm thinking to myself, well,
he's at the end of his career. This was the
one thing he didn't have, and so maybe that's why
he's crying. He's a little bit emotional. It's all coming

(26:58):
to win he end et cetera. And he couldn't be
the bloke at Wimbledon, so he beats the bloke at
the Olympic Games. Therefore it's a good win, et cetera,
et cetera. So that sort of usurps my argument over
of the Olympics and tennis being a waste of time,
or golf at the Olympics being a waste of time,
or basketball at the Olympics being a waste of time,
because he clearly liked it. I don't know if Shefler cried.

Speaker 15 (27:16):
It wasn't just like a reaction to its booster or something.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
No, no, no, no emotional. I don't think so. I don't
think you've been swimming in the sane and his eyes
were hurting either. It's hard to say anyway, five minutes
away from seven some debt talk for you. Our debt
is now eight hundred and twenty seven billion. Is that
a lot? That's quite a lot. It's up from seven
hundred and thirty nine billion on last year, so that's
a five and a half percent increase. If you want

(27:40):
to go down memory lane, we can take you back
to twenty sixteen, where it was four hundred and ninety
two billion. So top those numbers up and that gives
you an increase of sixty eight percent in eight years
with an average annual growth rate of seven point six percent.
So that's this is everyone, by the way, we're all
in this together. If you want to make it a
little bit personal, it equates to one hundred and fifty
three thousand dollars for every single man, woman and child

(28:03):
in this country. Housing as where it's most tied up.
Not surprisingly, three hundred and sixty one billion is on
the house. That's debt, but that's only up three point
three percent. Consumer borrowing is up only two and a
half percent. Business borrowing is up three percent. AG debt
is up zero point five because you're doing it so hard.
Of course, Crown debt at two hundred and fifteen billion,

(28:23):
that's up ten point eight percent. Course it is so
while the rest while the rest of us are sort
of having our act together, the Crown aren't. Business debt
one hundred and thirty six billion, AG sixty three billion,
Local government twenty seven billion, which is up fifteen point
eight percent. That's right. The idea that we are very
good at saving. We live beyond our means that's not
good either. Household net worth has only gone up zero

(28:46):
point three percent for the quarter, and that quarter is
Q one because they're slow, so so counted these numbers.
So up zero point three, it's up one point four
for the past year, and a big chunk of that
is tied at house place. So so, in other words, of
your house has gone up a bit, you're a bit wealthy.
If your house place hasn't gone up, you're not wealthier.
And we're taking no cash and stuck it in the
bank because we don't know how to save in this country,

(29:07):
right And you know why we don't know how to
save in this country because we can't add one plus
one because when we had one plus one, we come
up with minus twelve and in that's the problem, especially
if you're in year eight, and if you're in year eight,
you don't have the slightest clue about maths apparently, so
it's an emergency. They need to do something about it.
It's a system failure. So that the big announcement came yesterday.
Eric is Stanford after the news for you at the detail.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
The Breakfast show You Can Trust The Mic Hosking Breakfast
with Bailey's real estate, doing real estate differently since nineteen
seventy three.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
News togs dB.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Only seven past seven to The big headline out of
the nets get together over the weekend is that their
new plan on maths is being implemented early. And you
don't need to be a maths genius to see the
numbers are shocking, just twenty two percent of the year
rates rechieving at benchmark. So a curriculum and money to
teach the teachers. Education Minister Erica Stanford is with us
very good morning, good morning mine. Just for clarification's sake,
this this is what you were going to do anyway,

(30:01):
simply implemented a year earlier.

Speaker 20 (30:04):
That's right. This was actually in our teaching the basics
brilliantly version one plan before the election that we pulled
out because it was just a little bit too much
for the election campaign. But now it's time to implement
it urgently.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
How urgently is it being implemented in the sense, where
did these numbers come from? When did they arrive on
somebody's desk? And how many meetings were called to say
we need to change the plan.

Speaker 20 (30:24):
We got the data about two weeks ago. It was
that the assessments were done last year towards the end
of last year, and for the first time, we're actually
seeing data of kids and you eight where they should
be rather than over many many years. So it's the
very first time we've ever actually seen how our year

(30:44):
eights before they go into high school are actually doing.
And the results were dismal. And so that meant taking
that plan and putting it in place for term one
next year.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
So let's look at the size of the turnaround that
you've promised sixty three percent of more than a year behind.
If it's Mari at seventy seven percent more than a
year behind, you've said that you want eighty percent at
or above by twenty thirty. You've got six years to
do it.

Speaker 20 (31:08):
Well, that's a whole cohort of kids through primary school,
and that was always our plan. We thought we could
get there if we've got six years of kids at
primary school learning under the new curriculum of the Science
of Learning, explicit teaching, no more of this. Your kid
turns up the school and decides what they want to learn.
So we thought that with six years, we're to get
our kids there. I'm still confident we can. We just
have to push a bit harder and a bit faster.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
How much of this is just about maths? Some of
us just struggle with maths. I don't care who teaches it.
And do we have comparison with other countries of a
similar ilk that shows that they're superior to us, and
obviously so or does everybody in the Western world to
some degree struggle with maths.

Speaker 20 (31:47):
Now we've compared ourselves to other countries who are doing
a much better job than us, who have been actually
climbing the ranks and the OECD, whereas we've been dropping
for many, many years. And I don't believe for a
second that there are some people who just can't do math.
That is completely untrue. Everybody can do maths. It's just
the confidence and having wonderful teachers and great curriculum and

(32:09):
great resources. And we've seen other countries like Singapore and
Australia and the UK surge ahead because they have those
things right and we don't, and we are going to
get them right under this government.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
How much of it's the curriculum versus how much of
it's the teacher's ability to teach the curriculum.

Speaker 9 (32:26):
It's a bit of both.

Speaker 20 (32:28):
The curriculum has been vague. It hasn't been year by year.
It's been a multi year band, so teachers can decide
what they teach rather than having explicitly said you must
teach these things in this order in this year, so
when they go on next year, they've mastered these basics
so they can then get have success in the following year.
The other thing is, and we know from all of

(32:50):
the reports that have been done recently that the system
has let teachers down and that they are not confident
in maths generally at primary school. So there's two things
we have to do professional learning and development and also
provide them with the teacher guides and resources and workbooks
for students, which means in the short term they can

(33:11):
use those while they're undertaking their PLD.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
Unions are already this morning saying they do fine, that's
what they're paid to do. They quote unquote there was
a unionist on this morning said they do it well.
When you've got a union saying they do it well
and the results say that we don't. You've got to
fight on your hands.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Haven't you.

Speaker 20 (33:30):
Well, they're completely out of touch. And I tell you
what I have been around the country for the last
couple of years talking with principles of high schools and
primary schools, and they all agree that we have a
massive problem in maths. Nobody agrees with the union apart
from the Union, and I don't think we should be
listening to them high school high school principles tell me
when I walk in the door, Erica, the first thing

(33:51):
we have to do with our year nine or our
third formers is teach them their time stables, because they
don't know them without fail every high school they go into.
So there is a problem, and the unions can have
their heads in the stands, but I'm going to move
on despite that and implement our plans because it has
to happen.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
Appreciate time very much, Erica Stamford, who is the Education
Minister with us this morning. They're astonishing numbers, aren't they.
Sixty three percent more than a year behind, fifteen percent
are less than a year behind, so they're behind but
just under a year. So sixty three plus fifteen, let's
do some maths. You know what the number is at
seventy eight. So virtually, I mean, for all intents and purpose,

(34:28):
virtually everyone's behind. And so they've got to do something
between now and twenty thirty to get virtually everyone from
being behind to eighty percent being at or above. Extraordinary,
isn't it. Twelve minutes past seven, Scout an a crack
at central government over infrastructure. The bloke who's been heading
the CRL this is the Oakland City Rail and he's
leaving to go to Ireland. He wants more cross party

(34:48):
deals around big projects by chopping and changing, he argues,
and he's probably right with governments. Each government comes in
suddenly we're building a road, and then we're not, and
then we are, and then we're not. The cost of
course goes up, so infrastructure. New Zealands Chief Executive Nick
Leggett is with us on this Nick morning, Hi, Mike.
First excuse this is the CRL is it's billions of

(35:08):
dollars over, it's years late. And his argument this is
Sewan Sweeney. His argument is the international thinking is you
can't actually price this stuff accurately. Is he right?

Speaker 14 (35:20):
Yes, he is to a degree.

Speaker 21 (35:22):
And I mean when Sewan Sweeney says something about infrastructure,
we should all listen. The point he made was until
you engage a builder and you get all your funders
in line, you don't really have a project, and that's
something New Zealand does very badly. You think about all
the projects that we've had around the country that have
been sort of out there in theory, whether it's light

(35:44):
rail Falkland, the second half across and let's get well
into moving. All lots of money, hundreds of millions of
dollars spent on planning, business plans and the like, but
no funding ever confirmed, nobody actually ever engaged to build.
They're just they're just a nice idea until you actually
lock anything in in New Zealand is really bad like

(36:05):
and actually push and go, and as a result we
get very very poor efficiency. It costs us billions of
dollars a year, and we don't have the system lined up,
and we don't have the political consensus that takes these
projects like CURL, which you know ten.

Speaker 14 (36:22):
Years in the making.

Speaker 21 (36:23):
It doesn't We don't have the guarantee across political cycles
and fundling cycles to lock them in and get the
efficiencies that are small country like New Zealand desperately needs.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
Can we ever do it? Because the ideological gap, especially
at the moment, is enormous. So if you look, for example,
at the roads of national significance PPPs, tolling, et cetera.
You look at the Labour Party. They hate roads, they
don't like PPPs, they like late rail, they like buses,
they're a mile apart. How do you depoliticize that.

Speaker 21 (36:50):
Well, I think what we've got to do as a
country is expect our politicians to get more in the
same room and agree on some of the basics.

Speaker 14 (37:00):
Now some of it.

Speaker 21 (37:01):
No, we're always going to have some disagreement. And I
think that's that's positive, that's good. That's why we have
different political parties. But Mike, it's the system, it's the funding,
it's it's we don't have a mature system. It's very scattergun.
We don't agree on principles like actually, as Sean Sweeney
very accurately said, we're obsessed about price. But actually what

(37:25):
we've got to do is focus on quality and value
because quality lasts forever. And there is this we've got
one you know, one party trackerg you said, and let's
drive the cost of everything down. We don't measure the
economic benefit we get from infrastructure. We don't consider that
well enough. And I think this is about maturity.

Speaker 14 (37:43):
And I can tell you.

Speaker 21 (37:44):
You know, we've visited other countries this year and you
can see for yourself places even closer neighbors like Australia.
There's just more political consistency. We need a We need
our two major parties at least to build some form
of consent us on the way the system is built
and on some of the big projects. When you look
at countries like Ireland, when you look at countries like Denmark,

(38:07):
you can have all political parties in a room talking
and agreeing on the key components of what's important. Infrastructure,
that long term pipeline. Sean Sweeney is a classic example
of where talent is leaving our country, skills that we
badly need because there isn't a project pipeline that guarantees
those people, that gives them the confidence that there's going
to be work coming up and then to rebuild to

(38:30):
bring in the people and the machinery that costs us
even more so. If we do care about product, but
if we care about our medium to long term economic growth,
we would get this right and we would reach across
the aisle. The government is trying earnestly to build the
infrastructure system back up. What we've got to have assurance

(38:50):
about is when there's a change of government at some
point in the future that that government doesn't come in
unravel things.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
Both you well said and I appreciate it very much.
Net Legate Infrastructure New Zealand Chief Executive. It can be
potentially done. I'll get your feedback on the maths in
a moment sixteen.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Past the Mike Costly rexist.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
Sir John Key on the National Party get together for
you shortly meantime at eighteen past seven, Mike, my kids
knew their times table by age seven. It took five
minutes a night and some cardboard. When you say new
you spell it inuw anyw. So is that you' just
being text cool or can't you spell? Mike? Is the
key metric for the unions? Our kid's ability to count

(39:27):
to ten? And Mari, how about reading? Is that not important? Michael?
Of course it's important. It's just that they've got the
results on maths and they needed to make an announcement
and there's so much an education that's important in going backwards.
Another knowledgeable minister, Mike, who can string sentences together well
and speak confidently and clearly about their portfolio. Mike, all
these percentages. The teachers Union won't know what they're saying.
The problem with the unions for the unions, and that

(39:48):
they must at some point just get a little bit
bored coming up with the same tired rhetoric when you've
got the beauty of maths in general, especially at year
eight level, is you can't argue with the results. You
know the results. The results, they're not debatable. It's not
a little bit here and a little bit there, it's irrefutably.
I fail. And if ail, Mike, specialist math teacher at

(40:09):
primary level might help, you's good luck on hiring those, Mike.
And yet virtually all these kids will pass in CEA.
What does that say about NCEEA? Do not get me started.
As a person who's helped put five kids through school,
do not get me started on NCEEA. Mike, National and
Labor could agree to bill Roads, but the Green Coalition
partners will always say no. And that's the real problem.

Speaker 7 (40:31):
See.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
I'll come to the brand Newins in just a couple
of moments, but the brand Newans a classic example of
everything that's wrong with New Zealand. And to let the
Brindwans get to the state they've got to is a
national disgrace. So how did it get there? Unless the
system is completely and utterly broken Anyway, more on a
moment seven twenty.

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mess seems remarkable on so many levels. I'm thinking to
myself over the weekend. One they needed so much time
to do reports that state the bleeding obvious. Two, the

(41:54):
fact that it ever happened to fires belief. Three the
fact we don't have sackings or resignations seems unbelievable. And
for Northland is waiting for someone to do something that
looks a little bit apologetic and respectful. Adding to this
is the fact it's Northland. Northland must be the most
abysmally treated region in the country. For a place so beautiful,
it's always been serviced appallingly, you know, in terms of

(42:17):
tourism potential, the lifeline whether for visitors or business, the
roads which are a modern day joke. As I mentioned
a moment ago, the Bran Duwin's is laughable. I mean,
if it wasn't so embarrassing and serious, the transpowerder barkle
in a sense, I suppose if you look at it's
just bad luck. I mean, the level of stupidity that
led to it could of course have happened anywhere. But
that's the thing about luck, isn't it. If anyone was
due to more bad luck, it was good old Northland.

(42:39):
Now I get the bit where compensation can be a
little bit tricky. You don't want to start flinging numbers
around too quickly because you run the risk of having
it get all out of control. But I assume we
are heading. I assume we are heading towards some proper compensation.
I assume those badly affected will be able to get
reasonable amounts to properly make sure they lose nothing. I
note why, by the way, this one year on from

(43:01):
those fires, we've got a four billion dollar deal. Now,
not that Transpower was a fire, nor was there any death,
But the point is a year seems a good amount
of time, a good time frame for something big to
be sorted. Back here, we've got talk of businesses closing
up and moving on. I personally would be arguing for
some sort of punitive damages. You just can't have this
level of an aptitude allowed to pass without those responsibly

(43:24):
being made to pay so who is in charge? What's
the timeframe? How much good will is there? How long
will this take? Where are the answers?

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Asking Mike.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
I'm a secondary school maths teacher. I love what Erica
Stamford's doing stuff the Union. It's about the kids, not them.
Well done, Joe, well, said the voice texting at Mike
and the car often spells words wrong and uses the
wrong word but sounds the same sea. I don't get
to check it. I'll let you over it just this once,
mording Mike. School principle here. The Union has their head
in the sand. Maths isn't free fall. I can't appoint staff.

(43:57):
We've got any idea of a solid maths program. It's
a shamble. Schools are inflating results. We're in Island and
the system. I welcome the change there. It's been a
while since people have been passionate about education, and maybe
in that is part of the problem. Now Net's got together.
This all came out of the NETS get together, the AGM.
First since being in government. I note that Audrey gung

(44:17):
rated We've got to go through that because I thought
it was an interesting exercise. She seems to do it
once a year and I sort of agree with her,
and I sort of disagree with her, but that's the
fun of the whole exercise anyway. Also at the conference
was the guest of bond of the keynote speaker, whatever
you want to call them, Sir John Key. So we'll
get and his message seemed to be around race relations.
Let's take the temperature down a little bit, so we'll
have a look at that, Sir John Key with us

(44:38):
in the next half hour of the program. We'll get
stuck into the sport of course. After eight the commentary
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Actually they're busy three D printing. We haven't done three
D printing for a while, but they're three D printing
a whole house. The first show home its first of
its cunts, so we'll get some details shortly meantime, As
I alluded to before the news at twenty three minutes
away from eight, along with a mass reset for the
National Party, their AGM featured to John Key, special guest

(45:18):
his call was for the temperature to drop a little
bit around race relation. Car and Chaw's treatment last week
from the marry Party was a bridge too far for many.
Of course, Sir John Key is with us very good
morning morning, Mike. So you call over the weekend for
the political temperature to come down a bit, how much
do you reckon this political debate is about specific aspects
of race relations in this country versus a general angst

(45:39):
because the country's on it's needs economically.

Speaker 18 (45:43):
A little bit of both. I mean, you know, notwith
seeing that the mood at the conference was really positive
because we've won in a general election, got new prime
minister and all that sort of stuff. Everyone recognizes how
big the economic tune round job is, I mean is
literally massive. And I think if you walk around most
parts of New zeal particularly Auckland, you just feel how

(46:05):
die the economy is at the moment across a lot
of sectors. So I think there's general angst, and I
think with race relations, you know, there's all those people
who think like we are either leaning in of it
too much or leaning out of it too much, sort
of get all that. My basic point was really lock
we just have to be a little bit careful of
those things. In my advice on all sides, not particularly

(46:25):
one side, is take the temperature down or with it,
because you know, when you have your budget day and
it's dominated by a race protest, or when you have
your opening of Parliament, that's the case. That's one side,
But then you got the ear leaders walking out of
meetings with the Prime Minister on the other. And then
I think things like the Treaty Principles Bill that's really
you know, wound people up. I actually don't support that

(46:46):
legislation for some pretty good reasons. I think.

Speaker 14 (46:48):
So there's just a lot of stuff, but.

Speaker 18 (46:50):
I just think just be careful because you know, for
the most part, we've actually done race relations pretty well
in this country.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
If you lead from top down, how much then of
your comments is based on policy like Seymour's bill, the
attitude to the White Hanging Tribunal, the overturning of court state,
et cetera. All that, how much of its policy driven
versus just general debate a.

Speaker 22 (47:12):
Bit of both.

Speaker 18 (47:12):
I think, look, the things like the Treaty Principle's Bill
does wind up a lot of people, And I actually
think philosophically and I come from a place where I
really like David Seymour, I think it's bad policy. I'll
tell you why. I think it's a bad act. If
you write down the principles, right, they might be fitting
proper to that. I might even agree with them. Right,

(47:34):
let's put that to one side. If you think they're
going to stay like that, you're a dreamer. They're going
to change, and they may change the direction you really
don't like when the new government comes along. And as
you see in places like the United States, where you
know they wrote down the constitution that said the right
to bear arms worked really well. By the way, when
you know you had a musket in the grizzly beer

(47:56):
walking into into kebinet two in the morning doesn't well
when a person feels they can legitimately take an AK
forty seven down to Walmart of Costco. So codifying these
things isn't that smart. So I think that's certainly wound
a lot of people up. And rightfully, I think, you know,
promise to crys like and so we'll see we're I'm
going to support that beyond the second reading. But it

(48:18):
just is quite a high temperature all these things at
the moment my only point is that for the most part,
race relations have been pretty good in New Sound. Sometimes,
you know, the government of days too hard. Maybe sometimes
they haven't been quite enough, But just making sure we
sort of let this thing get out of control is
important because for the most part, you know, we kind

(48:38):
of like you know, the society we live and we
get on with our mates. You know, it's not as
dire as what some people are saying. But I just
feel like temperature is too high.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
Chris Hopkins will I've got you, by the way, blames
tomorrow Schools, the whole maths turn around that was announced
yesterday as well. He blames essentially you because it was
Tomorrow's schools. Tomorrow's schools failed, and that's why we're failing
a mass You say.

Speaker 18 (49:00):
What here, Okay, a school was in the nineties before
I got the parlace a quite a long way back.
And look, if that was the case and it was
so obvious, they would have fixed it and they didn't.

Speaker 14 (49:13):
Look, the simple reality is I reckon.

Speaker 18 (49:15):
Part of what they'll be driving this is the enormous
truancy rates that happened under the previous labor government. But
also labor have never liked what we wanted to do,
which was National Senards, which was measure, monitor and report
on children. They want to measure, monitor, and import the environment.
They just never want to know whether you know your
seven year old could actually do mess at the what

(49:38):
we would deem to be the average standard for a
seven year old. And therefore if you don't know, you
can't fix it. So again a massive job because if
you can't, if kids can't leave school now and they
can't do messes at a half decent level, and a
huge number of the teachers who are teaching them don't
have the proper past qualification, I can't do basically school

(50:00):
suit math. There's a real problem, isn't there? And you
know I would worry enormously about the future work force
if that's the case.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
All right, I appreciate your times to John Key with
us this morning at eighteen minutes away from eight Husky.
You mentioned Auckland a moment ago, especially Auckland. Auckland seems
to be signaled out at the moment for some difficult
economic times. I note with the Centrix figures that came
out on Friday, they're closing businesses in Auckland at a
greater rate than anywhere else in the country three hundred
and eighty three in the second quarter. I'll come to

(50:30):
the because you'll say, well, there's more businesses in Auckland,
but three eighty three in the second quarter fifty six
and Wellington one hundred and eighteen, and the rest of
the North Island sixty one in Canterbury. So that equates
in Auckland to one point eight businesses per one thousand businesses.
So out of every thousand and one point eight a closing,
which in a number is not the end of the world.
I mean, no one likes to see any business close,
but one point eight out of a thousand doesn't seem

(50:51):
the end of the world to me. It's only one
in Wellington. You think Wellington's got difficulty one in one
thousand business almost twice that in Auckland. So Auckland does
seem to be super in more than the rest of
the country. Seventeen to two the make costing breakfast, it's
fourteen away from it. Actually, speaking of race relations, I
note and it'll be the same I'm assuming up and
down the country with a new law that's just been passed,

(51:13):
the Murray Ward Bill by the government last week the
Marlborough councilor note in reportage over the weekend they're going
to vote on whether to hold a referendum. So they're
going to vote on the vote and whether or not
they keep the murray Wards. They've got marray Wards. They're
not happy, but nevertheless, this is the laws and Nadine Taylor,
who's the mayor. Of course, they're going to vote at
a meeting on the sixth of September. The sixth of

(51:33):
September is the deadline, so the whole of meeting before
that on whether or not to hold a poll. Now
the prey. Here's the interesting thing for councils. So do
you vote to hold a vote and do you want
to vote?

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Now?

Speaker 3 (51:44):
In wanting a vote, that's an act of democracy, So
that's no bad thing. They'll argue in part there's a
cost to that, and maybe a cost they don't need
to incur. But in holding a vote, of course, what
will happen is you know the result and it will
be overwhelmingly against what the council wants to do. So
as a counsel, do you then want to enter into
the business of being told that what you've done up
until this point is wrong, and I suspect the answer

(52:08):
is no, which brings me nicely Towardroy Young. I do
enjoy her work when she goes and rates these it's
a fun old thing, and there's not enough fun in
the media anymore. But she does this ranking of ministers,
and what stood out to me if you haven't read
the piece getting to the Herald and have a read it,
but it came out Friday or Saturday, something like that.
So she's gone through all of the ministers and basically
given them a score out of ten and given a

(52:29):
brief summation as to what the problem may or may
not be. What was immediately apparent is and she's a
very experienced operator. Of course, what was immediately apparent is
how many high score she's handed out to this government,
which indicates to me it's encouraging. In other words, lots
more people actually know what they're doing, as opposed to

(52:50):
if you go back and look at what she scored
the previous government on, barely any of them registered any
great score at all. I don't think there was a
single nine. I might be wrong, but certainly there are
a lot of sixes and sevens, and in our world
sixes and sevens just aren't acceptable. We're up to we're
a nine or ten, maybe an eight on a good day.
So Luxon gets an eight, Peters gets an eight. Nikola

(53:12):
Willis gets an eight. Slightly surprised about that. I would
have given her probably an eight. Issue heading towards the
nine Bishop of nine. See, you've got good confident people,
simming In Brown nine. He's working on transport and roads.
Erica Stanford been on the program this morning. Nine. Shane
Ritty gets a seven, which I think partially is potentially
a little bit unfair, but nevertheless, let's not go back

(53:32):
and forward on it. But Goldsmith eight, Colin seven, Mitchell seven.
Now I'm gonna raise that with Mark on Wednesday. I'm
gonna raise that now. Now, what does she say about
Mark began the term with a public arm wrestle with
the police commissioner, which was always going to end in
a draw. Well, I'm not sure him leaving is a drawer.
I call that a victory. He's had a couple of hiccups,
raising doubts about meeting pledged extra cops and running a

(53:54):
bysmal press conference when delivering a big boost to the
corrections part. And that's true he did have a bad
press conference. That fair point it on. She gets that one,
but plays an important role as nationals tub thumper on
law and order. So see that to me deserves more
than the seven.

Speaker 15 (54:07):
But yeah, I see, I reckon, he's gonna be happy.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
You'll be happy with that.

Speaker 15 (54:10):
I just think he's the kind of guy.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
Yeah, you're happy with the seven like me.

Speaker 15 (54:14):
All those cases are a bit we're all happy with
the seven high like us.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
So who's struggling. Penny Simmons she gets a four, and
I think that's probably fair. Bailey's on eight, Seymour's on eight,
Brooklyn Velden's a seven, Nicole m Keys of seven, so
I would have raided her a little bit higher. Chore
In eight deserves it. Joanes seven a little bit harsh.
Maybe I think he's been a big advocate for what
he's arguing for, and Casey Costello five is probably fair enough.

Speaker 23 (54:40):
So all in all, what I don't think Jones gets
good Marx for like achieving all sorts of staff, bad
Marx for destroying the environment single handedly?

Speaker 3 (54:47):
Is that what it is?

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (54:48):
Maybe I don't know, Okay, but anyway, the upshot is
you've got a better. According to Audrey, you've got a
better quality government than you did previously. And then that
I think that's.

Speaker 15 (54:58):
What did Hey, what did Melissa Lee get?

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Four?

Speaker 3 (55:02):
Yeah, bit of a fail, bit of an epic fail,
but they sector. I mean she got a four for
being sacked. I mean that's all you need to say.
Melicicedly sacked four. In fact, four is probably a bit high.
Ten minutes away from eight.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
The Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Vita Retirement, Communities News, togs.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
Head be apologies. Molstedly got three, not four, and it
was simmonsized thinking of it. We've got four. Both got sacked,
So threes and fours forgetting sectors, the seeming, the thinking
of Ordre a young seven away from eight. Been a
while since we looked at the world of three D printing,
and none loves three D printing more than we do.
Iconic Construction is in the process of printing a whole
home a show home. Ground was broken a fortnight ago.

(55:38):
Already the walls are being printed. Iconic Construction director Nick
Lanes with us. Nick morning to you. How big is
the machine and how fast does it print?

Speaker 22 (55:50):
It's probably about the size of a two and a
half three ton digger and as the arm itself is
moving in about half a meter per second.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
Well, so you're seeing a wall coming out. That's incredible.
What's it made of?

Speaker 22 (56:07):
The wall or the machine? The walls, the wolves, The
walls made out of a concrete that we import thirty
percent of the dry product of the dry products locally
sourced and we batch it here in New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
And so you just punch in the details of how big,
how widen hit go and it prints.

Speaker 22 (56:29):
The wall are quite Fortunately architect actually does a lot
of that hard work for us, just in the design
of building the property, so all the home. So yeah,
we just we take their CAD files and turn them
into three D print files.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
How much can you print? Can you do? The doors?
The door knobs, the power points, the kitchen beach Well.

Speaker 22 (56:50):
We had a kitchen carcass before, or just the backside
of a kitchen bench. But at this stage we were
just sticking with the walls. Yeah, we're not We're not
quite getting down to door knobs. They probably don't do
this so good out of concrete.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
Okay, so you're just sticking. So you anything that's made
of the singular material i e. This concrete. Sort of
concrete that's what you can print.

Speaker 22 (57:14):
Yes, So we're trying to take out all the structural
element from the beneath the ceiling line basically, so we're
going to be printing this whole house will have no
timber structure element to it until it hits the ceiling.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
Gosh is it? Is it solid in terms of it'll
stand up to you know, riggers and rules and red
tape and all that sort of stuff.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (57:37):
So we've been involved with core Ox who and been
a part of the testing process, and you have been
there and witness the testing for these walls and they're
pretty impressive.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
And so the cost as per douing it normally.

Speaker 22 (57:56):
This house is working out probably slightly dearer than then
it sort of cheap build. It's sort of more in
your mid range price.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
I guess what's that cheap builds four and a half
five thousand a square meter? Is that right or not?

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 22 (58:11):
Probably depending where you are, slightly cheaper in different areas.
We're probably sitting around that four and a half to
five thousand a square with this one.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
Jeeves, that's not bad. Is this the future?

Speaker 22 (58:20):
Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (58:22):
No question in your mind whatsoever.

Speaker 22 (58:24):
Now you think about what construction looks like in twenty
thirty years, fifty years from now, and this is definitely a.

Speaker 9 (58:30):
Part of it.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
Fantastic good to talk to you. I appreciate the inside.
Nick Lane, who's the iconic construction director architectural Merit might
be a bit of a talking point, of course. Speaking
of talking points, so all of these weird sports, my
wife says to me, and I thought it was the
most eloquent points you made. This new sport. They've invented
the paddling down the Whitewater rapids in a group of

(58:52):
three in a raw. She said, this is the sort
of thing you paid for when you go to the
Gold Coast on holiday. This is a holiday activity, not
an Olympic event. I think she's probably right on that.
More shortly, your.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Trusted source for news and fews, the Mic Hosking Breakfast
with the range Rover of the law, designed to intrigue
and use talks Advice.

Speaker 13 (59:16):
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Speaker 2 (59:17):
It is no wrong, No Ron Carl.

Speaker 14 (59:20):
Time thirty voice to twenty prometter winless one here in all.

Speaker 13 (59:25):
When is the full game?

Speaker 24 (59:28):
The mystics go back to back The Mystics Arvey Ancid
Premiership winners for season.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
Twenty twenty four.

Speaker 8 (59:39):
Looks like it's gonna be silver for New Zealand, Sima
Twig coming to the line. Caroline Floraye of the Netherlands
gets the gold medal. New Zealand Semma Twig gets silver.

Speaker 16 (59:51):
I'm almost certain Keyshane Thompson has won this, but no,
the prophecy is fulfilled. Noah's ark of domination reaches a
new peak. The world champion is now an Olympic champion,
and Noah Lyles there's the one hundred meter Olympic champion.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
The Monday Morning commentary bars on the make Husking breakfast.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
Day minutes past a go have belt with us, Andrew Sevil, Morning.

Speaker 11 (01:00:22):
To you both, Morning morning.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
And guy, you're at Jamaica House.

Speaker 9 (01:00:27):
Yeah, I saw would pop along to Jamaica House for
the one hundred meter final tonight our time, Mike, And
let me tell you what are we about? Seven or
eight minutes after the race has been run and Noah
Lyles wins, and there are approximately I would say a
twinkiest of the amount of people who were here ten
minutes ago and emptied out and they are gathers.

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
It's the same I'm saying I assume it's the same
rulers as motor racing. It's you can get the same time,
but it's the person who crosses the line first that wins.

Speaker 9 (01:00:57):
Yeah, exactly. They went to a photo and I think
Noah Lyles maybe just had even more of his body
across the line, which may have separated it. You couldn't
ask for much more of a margin, though, my word,
it was tiny. What a race, what one hundred meter final?
It was built up to be an epic and it
certainly lived up to that case.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
Certainly, it's good because last time we talked and I
didn't have time at them at the time to raise
it with you guy. But you were looking on Friday
when we had you on the program for the Beach
volleyball but you failed to find the beach Beach Volleyball venue.
Was the Jamaica House situation a little bit clearer for you.

Speaker 9 (01:01:31):
The Jamaica House venue is very easy to find and
a great venue with phenomenal food, a great vibe. The
Beach Volleyball venue is actually quite tricky to find because
there are fences bloody everywhere, as you can imagine around
the Eiffel Tower, So it's like a maze down there.
We managed to find a champions Park I think it's called,
which is on the other side of the Eiffel Tower,

(01:01:54):
but still yet to make it to the beach volleyball.
That's this week's start.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
Okay, Andrew the clue guy.

Speaker 14 (01:01:59):
Here's a clue looked of sand in the middle of
the city, and you're probably look out for it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
Very good. That's those the old.

Speaker 14 (01:02:08):
You're in Jamaica. You're in Jamaica house. Are you breathing
through your nose or your mouth?

Speaker 12 (01:02:17):
Uh?

Speaker 9 (01:02:17):
There's yeah. All I could sell at the moment is
er chicken Andrew, none of the other stuff that you're
thinking about. I thought blink Seville was was Andrew Saville?
For a second, I thought we'd come back and side
to your sprinting glory.

Speaker 14 (01:02:30):
That's fine, that's my Jamaican cousin. Just don't eat. Don't
eat the biscuits make. But what a final make? I
think from first to last was it was was a
tenth of the second.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
It's not bad.

Speaker 21 (01:02:43):
Yes, the were you were?

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
You as tearful as Jokovic was Andrew at his victory,
which which was the question, doesn't it with a gold
medal count so, I mean, given what he's done for
him to break down, it obviously means something, doesn't it.

Speaker 14 (01:02:59):
Yes, it does. And it was a it was a
it was a great final against Al karaz It wasn't
a walk over in any sense of the of the
of the term. And I would imagine he's very proud
to win for his country first and foremost, very proud Serbian.
So a bit of a motion there, but I still
like it's still it still leaves it. It's our taste

(01:03:20):
when you're watching golf and tennis and football, even basketball
to a degree an other and a few other team sorts.
They just do not belong there. It just bloated the Olympics.
I don't belong here.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
No, they don't. I tend to agree. Guy. The one
I discovered over the week in which well, first of all,
I didn't realize there was a a team triathlon, a
multi you know, male female team triathlon. Two that whatever
that sport is that we're paddling in threes down the
white water, which is an extraction of the original event.
I mean, do they literally just make up sports?

Speaker 9 (01:03:54):
Kayak cross is the one you're talking about there where
they race it's kind of like a sprint down a
white water course. I suppose, Yeah, I think that's relatively new,
and I'm guessing it's to try and introduce a new audience,
appeal to a younger audience what they're all trying to
do at the moment, which is why, of course they've
got break dancing in the Olympics. Like, I quite liked that,

(01:04:18):
I must be honest, I thought there was a bit
more quite exciting.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
What do you mean, is that? Is that what it's
to become?

Speaker 11 (01:04:25):
Though?

Speaker 13 (01:04:26):
Guy?

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
Has it become a television sport?

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
That you go?

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
I quite like that? Is that what the Olympics is for?

Speaker 9 (01:04:32):
Look, don't I don't think it should be at the Olympics.

Speaker 14 (01:04:34):
Absolutely.

Speaker 9 (01:04:35):
I don't think it should be at the Olympics in
terms of enjoyment watching it, though I did get some
enjoyment out of it. But I'm exactly the same as
you guys. I don't think I should be there. I
don't think golf should be there. Football definitely shouldn't be
there when it's not even the best players in the
world at the under twenty three players And rugby sevens,
I mean, why does rugby sevens need to be there?
There are a number of sports that don't need to
be there. I think kayak cross is probably one of
them as well. But you could wipe out a whole

(01:04:56):
number of them and just have the that, let's say,
the pure Olympic sports for one of a better word,
and I think you'd ever hate them.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
All, right, brief break more in a moment, Andrew Saible guy,
have about thirteen past.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
The Mike Husking breakfast.

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
It's a quarter past eight.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
The Monday Morning commentary barks on the Mike Husking.

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
Breakfast held Andrews Sabler Whether SAA, but we're going to
have a conversation this week and you'll know there's more
than I do. But this medal count now worries me.
So we're running out of time and days and you
know who's in their day nine. I'm looking at names,
and you know we've got problems here. This doesn't look good,
doesn't well?

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Is it?

Speaker 14 (01:05:32):
Two goals? Obviously carrying Jon and the kayakers will pick
up a couple you'd think, yeah, maybe maybe a couple
of the track cycling or a few medals in the
track cycling, although that's that can sometimes be a little
bit of a lottery. Has to be a little bit
of a concern, but this often happens, Mike, a bit
of a surge near the end, So we'll wait and see.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
Okay, speed climbing guy, do you know where that is?

Speaker 9 (01:05:54):
So I know where it is?

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
Yeah, you've got the betess sort of. Is there going
to be something worth watching or is this another one
of these invented things that it's a recreational pursuit, isn't it?

Speaker 14 (01:06:03):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 9 (01:06:04):
It's another one. I think that what we were talking
about before they had it in Tokyo. And I must say,
when you watch it for the first couple of times,
it is bloody impressive. It's you watch it about twenty
times in a row, you kind of go, Okay, I've
I've seen that once. I've seen that enough.

Speaker 14 (01:06:19):
But yeah, what watch it at.

Speaker 9 (01:06:20):
Least once or twice, because it will blow your mind
how quickly they get up that wall.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
Okay.

Speaker 14 (01:06:24):
I think the games might have got to avoid becoming
a cheap version of the X Games.

Speaker 7 (01:06:28):
Yeah, I think.

Speaker 14 (01:06:29):
And if there's talk of this talk of gaming like
the sports coming into the Olympics, I mean, goodness sake,
you look at surfing and going back to figures before
you look at surfing. I think they only had ten
the top twenty surfers in the world entered. That's not
that's not a true indication of global surfing power.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Is it all the top?

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
No?

Speaker 14 (01:06:48):
No, at the top of the game.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
But I was watching a little bit of the golf
over the weekend. They had a really as as far
as a golf field, I mean, it shouldn't be there
for a start, But as far as the field's concerned,
I was looked. I didn't know whether I was watching
the US Open, the Masters, or the Olympic Games. I mean,
it's just.

Speaker 14 (01:07:01):
Yeah, for shift to win it, that's that is Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:07:04):
Yeah, the best, the best players in the world were
at the top of the leaderboard. So that's kind of
all you can ask if you're gonna if you're going
to put them all together. But I agree with you,
it shouldn't be.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
Do you see the Warriors Andrew Are you said that's crap? Yep,
it's not.

Speaker 14 (01:07:24):
Every time they made him every time they made a
mistake pretty much, the Eels scored off it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
And the Eels aren't any good. That's the problem.

Speaker 14 (01:07:33):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
Titans are no good and be.

Speaker 9 (01:07:35):
Just like a Jamaican sprinting supporter at the moment. Well,
it's down on the dumps.

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
It's it's it's what I what we're into now. Unfortunately,
and and and Webster's not helping when he goes at
the end of the game. It's not up to win
our l standard, you know, no kidding, Sherlock. But he
was supposed to have had the key to unlock it all.
And then for a while there we looked like we
were something. And now we've gone back to this business
of losing.

Speaker 14 (01:07:58):
Lock it against the Panthers. They unlock it against the
top teams, but against the low teams they lose. Yeah,
it's just it's he'd scratch you.

Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
Here's the really important thing that so, yes, we can
still make the eight. Let's say we do. Let's say
we let's say we do. The problems were not good
enough to be there in a consistent fashion to go
on and do it, because we'll get excited. Then we'll
go and get spanked by somebody.

Speaker 9 (01:08:24):
Give up on the dream. It's not happening. They're not
going to make the eight. And I looked at them at.

Speaker 14 (01:08:28):
I would pack lineup Mike on the weekend. That was
an outstanding bunch of forwards, the Warriors head on the field,
on the.

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
Team, the team on paper, It's fantastic. I don't know
what to do, it says here hang on text, Mike.
The table tennis gold medal match was sensational. Can either
of you confirm that China against Sweden?

Speaker 9 (01:08:47):
It was very very good. Yes, it was excellent. Had
had all of it? Watch it? And so was I
must say so was the men's tennis final between Alcaraz
and Jokovic. Two sets, so it was on paper straight sets.
But if you've got time watch as much of the
replayers that as you can. It was the highest quality
tennis match I have seen for some time.

Speaker 14 (01:09:08):
Absolutely unbelievable.

Speaker 9 (01:09:09):
And for Jokovic to win that, I know we're going
back to the start of the conversation, but for Djokovic
took them that when he's just come out of surgery
about five weeks ago, that's quite remarkable.

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
And also given what happened at Wimbledon, of course is
the other thing. Andrew quickly on Argentina. Are we pissing
about Argentina this weekend or not?

Speaker 14 (01:09:25):
I think the All Black should win both and Pilly comfortably.
I'm looking forward to seeing Will Jordan back. I'm pretty
I'm pretty sure he will slot straight back into full back.

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
I reckon, but that's it's not exciting, though, is it.
It's not a thing, it's not a.

Speaker 14 (01:09:40):
It's exciting to see how this all black team goes
again under Scott Robertson and co. But the opposition don't.
I think Argentina is going to have to ball the
last year or two anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
Okay, what about Australia and South Africa? Are they much chop.

Speaker 14 (01:09:51):
Line and jo joshmid Will had the Aussies up for
it in Sydney and the Africans rather will be very
hard to beat into Africa two games all right.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
It just reminds me on the table tennis, Andrew, I
read an article over the weekend. It was one of
the Australian papers that said, it's the sport that we
all like to back ourselves on, especially after a couple
of beers. Do you play a bit of table tennis
after a couple of beers or before beers?

Speaker 14 (01:10:14):
I'd say table tennis, pool, darts, maybe tennis, a bit
of badminton after a couple Top of the world hot
dog eating on time on top of the world.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
Having a good time. Is this like one of those
highlights as a journalist all that sort of stuff.

Speaker 9 (01:10:33):
I'll tell you what, Yes, it is, And the day
of the Means Triathlon was one of the highlights of
my career. For the race itself, it was an epic race,
and then for just the way that Hayden wild handed
handled himself, for the time that he gave up to
come and talk to us, for as honest dance as
all that sort of stuff was pretty cool. And then

(01:10:54):
yesterday to see a legend like Emma Tweg bow out
the way she did. I know she didn't win gold,
but silver to her as an epic achievement and she
was just fantastic to deal with as well. So yeah,
it's it's been really great. And I know, look, yeah
the metal Telly is a bit slow at the moment,
but canoe racing to calm track, cycling to come potentially
a couple of medals, and sailing there is still a

(01:11:16):
little bit of stuff to watch out, so we could
still get New zealand could still get to mid teens potentially.

Speaker 14 (01:11:21):
Of Mike may have velt highlight was his walk and
talk with Hayden wild down the shomps Elisa after that
fantastic try race, and it was a miracle. The guy
didn't fall over any dog, pill cigarette.

Speaker 10 (01:11:35):
But.

Speaker 14 (01:11:37):
For homeless people.

Speaker 9 (01:11:38):
While I was talking to him, it was you know,
I made it there, Andrew, he had just finished a triathlon.
I ran approximately five hundred meters and was just about
out of gas. I could barely do the end.

Speaker 14 (01:11:49):
Although although I did, I think it was a little
rude that when Hayden was answering your searching questions, you
did take a peep into the Louis Vautone and Chanelle
sawes on your way, on your way down the road.

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
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thing we didn't cover was the f one word is that?

(01:13:15):
So I'm just looking through the seats that are still
available for Lillam Lawson. What's a little bit of the
endurance racing at Interlagos? And despite the fact that Porsche
have joined and Ferrari have joined and Chevy is involved
in Chevy's with the El Bamber or l Bambas with Chevy.
Brendan Hartley is still winning. He wanted his Toyota Gazoo
still won. They got two car seven at eight He's

(01:13:36):
and eight and they won. So they're doing very nicely
in the next next races in Austin, Texas at the
circuit of the America's which is one of the great circuits,
of course, but the Lillam Lawson thing is an increasing
speculation he's going to be leaving the team because he's
got an outclaused by September and things look a little
bit stuck. So we'll keep you posted on that meantime.

Speaker 11 (01:13:54):
Newsers.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
Next setting the news agenda and digging into the issue
is the Mic Hosking breakfast with Bailey's real Estate doing
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Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
Edb surely red Bull would be mad to let Liam
go after all the time and money invested in Well,
that's helmet Marco's argument, of course, that they're a young
driver factory and they can't work out why Ricardo's there.
But then again, these days Christian Horner runs the ship
and he's got a clause in his contract comes September,
and you might know that September's next month that if
he hasn't got a job or a drive for next year,

(01:14:28):
he is free to look elsewhere. And it's about three
seats still available. By the way, speaking of the Olympic,
it's going to be interesting this week, not only our performance,
of course and whether it improves or not, but a
very interesting piece in one of the Australian papers over
the weekend Paris is empty headline Paris is empty. Restaurant
owners lament the Olympic party that never came. I've given
you a lot of details around airlines and stuff, and
some of the American airlines are losing one hundred million

(01:14:49):
dollars people or not. People are still traveling, they're just
not going to Paris. So unless you were going to
the Games, you weren't going to Paris. And Paris seems
to be feeling that. And the Hospo slash too. A
Maria twenty three minutes away from.

Speaker 19 (01:15:01):
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Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
We go see price. Very good morning to you.

Speaker 7 (01:15:10):
Yes, my daughter's in Paris for the Olympics. Got into
a restaurant you could never get into otherwise because Paris,
according to the owners of the place, is empty.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
As you said, isn't that amazing? The time to go
and visit the most visited city in the world is
the Olympic Games time. That's funny, old.

Speaker 14 (01:15:27):
Stame, isn't it.

Speaker 7 (01:15:29):
And it's always handy when you've got two hundred euros
from your old man to pay for dinner.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
Well there you go. You say, how old is she
if you don't want to twenty seven? Yeah, it's a difficult.
Our oldest is twenty five. And it's that's still we're
still into that. You know, when does it end? When
do we never end? Does it never end? Okay? Thanks
for that, so elbows. Still on the business of the

(01:15:53):
Indigenous Australia. What's his promise?

Speaker 7 (01:15:56):
He went up to the Garma Festival, which is held
each year in the Arnam Land in the Northern Territory,
and he said that even though the Voice referendum was lost,
the focus of his government would be marking these are
his words, a path forward to break through the ashes
of the failed Voice referendum and economically support Indigenous Australians.

(01:16:18):
He went on to say that he remained committed to Macarata,
which is a treaty, and committed to truth telling processes
being undertaken by the state government's right around the country.
And then he flushed out twenty million dollars to build
the Garma Institute, which will be a tertiary education and
vocational center established in East arnham Land, to be own

(01:16:41):
and run by the Old New people. So he was
there at the weekend this time last year is promising.
Of course the voice would get up. The voice didn't
get up, and he now doesn't have a lot left
to do for Indigenous Australians and continues to avoid Alice
Springs where there is still a very large social problems
involving out.

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
Exactly where's winning Is he winning on this or losing
on this politically with the rest of Australia.

Speaker 7 (01:17:06):
Losing big time on most of Australia. And look, it's
just ingrained in what he believes and thinks, and if
he can do some good for Indigenous people, great, but
I don't know that throwing twenty million dollars at a
building in remote arnum Land is going to do too
much for the people living in creek beds outside Olla Springs,
to be honest.

Speaker 3 (01:17:25):
No exactly. And so where does that leave them in
the polls?

Speaker 7 (01:17:29):
Well, his polling is pretty much fifty to fifty still.
But the big poll shocked today is in Victoria where
our friend Daniel Andrews of course no longer premier, taken
over by it just Cinder Allen and she's now in charge.
And the poll out today shows that the ALP is
on primary voter thirty one coalition forty two part he preferred,

(01:17:50):
it's fifty to fifty. That's the first time in seven
years that the coalition have had their nose in front.
And it's all being driven by what you and I
took and the pass of Victoria's broke. They've got a
massive debt. They keep plowing money into this infrastructure projects
that they're never going to be finished, and yet at
the same time they've got to cut things like health.

(01:18:11):
And this pole has been taken just after a range
of health cuts to all of the hospitals were announced,
and also just after the shop scandal about the CFMEU
became public. So there's no election till next year, and
if Labor were to win that election, it would be
a full time at four times in a row that
they've won. I think people are sick of the Labor

(01:18:31):
government here. The only problem is that the coalition leadership
is pretty weak, and still they are arguing about whether
they even replace their leader. But that poll is a
big shop for most people.

Speaker 3 (01:18:41):
Yeah, and to get that some way, correct me if
I'm wrong. But the last election, particularly that the opposition
had been a shambles for years, and that state hints
at least part of the success of the Labor Party
has been the fact that the opposition is non existent.

Speaker 7 (01:18:55):
Yeah, correct, and ten years of swapping leaders they've had
four in ten years is I think the current bloke's
pretty unimpressive. Still, there was even speculation at the weekend
for this poll came out that they might again topple
him and put someone else in. So they're not winning
because they are particularly good. They're winning because Labor is
particularly bad.

Speaker 3 (01:19:15):
What are these gambling laws for advertising on television? What
are the changes?

Speaker 7 (01:19:18):
Well, the government wants to do this, whether they get
away with doing it or not, go to cabinet when
Parliament resumes in a couple of weeks time, but gambling
ads will stay on television. But what they Labor Party
is proposing is a cap. I don't know how you
go with these gambling ads in New Zealand. A gap
a cap of two gambling ads an hour on each

(01:19:40):
channel up until ten pm. After that it's a free
for all and they're going to ban ads an hour
before and after live sport. So this is very controversial
because the gambling industry obviously tips a huge amount of
money into the media in this country. Labour wants a
blanket ban on betting ads on social media and other

(01:20:01):
digital platforms and that is going to send the gambling
sectors crazy. Details of the Communication Minister's plans, which we'll
go to cabinet, are subject to change, but that's what
the leak is saying.

Speaker 14 (01:20:14):
They want to do a.

Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
Couple of quick things. If you don't mind, I'm reading
over the weekend. Rex has got hope the administrators saying
there's a whole bunch of people ring them up with interest.
So is their hope theyre or not.

Speaker 7 (01:20:25):
If they stick to the regional roots that they were
most successful on in the past. So what they went
out and did Is they decided to fly Melbourne, Sydney, Sydney,
Brisbane those routes and they went least a whole bunch
of brand new seven Jets workers Contis and Virgin just
put on more seats. So if they stick to their
knitting and stick to domestic to regional roots, that could

(01:20:48):
work for them.

Speaker 3 (01:20:48):
Yes, okay. And the other one was the Reynolds case started.
This is Higgins Scharz learnin the whole thing again. People
sick and tired of that? Or we still got some
sort of interest in this or not.

Speaker 7 (01:20:57):
Oh, there's interest. Senator will be up in court today
talking about what happened, what she claims happened to her reputation.
Reporting of what happened late last week suggested that she
believes that they can Sharaz and Higgins this story about
her being ignored. There was a whole bunch of pitchurees
released at the weekend showing Britney Higgins on the campaign

(01:21:20):
trail when she was supposed to be sad and lonely
and locked up in a hotel, and she's out there
laughing and handing out out.

Speaker 3 (01:21:26):
Of boat cards see Wednesday. Preciated very much. Steve Price
Mondays and Wednesdays on the Mike Hosking Breakfast sixteen to two,
The Mike Hosting Breakers thirteen Tonight morning, Mike Kevin told
us what everyone says available to Liam Laws and christ
the arts is probably hopefully the CT sort of with
the team at the moment RB or v CARB or
whatever you want to call them, the second RB team

(01:21:47):
with Sonoda and Ricardo. They need to sack Ricardo's the
problem and they need to do it potentially by And
this is where it gets interesting. I suppose it comes
September when the clause cuts in, does Laws and then
go I'll tell you what I'm I'm off looking or
do they make him blink first and going, well, even
though you haven't sacked Ricardo, I'll stay around. So that's
where it gets some sort of crunchy. Elpine or Elpine

(01:22:09):
are looking for a driver so he could go there,
but they're a mess at the moment because it looks
like Reno going to sell Elpine and then a company
call I can't remember, high Tech, that's who it is.
High Tech are potentially going to go in there because
Reno are furious over the possibility of Lpine going to
someone like Mercedes for their engines, because it's an insult

(01:22:30):
to Reno and Renau are French. You know how the
French get when you tell them their products are no good.
So anyway, they're looking for a driver. Sauerba is looking
for a driver Saba, which will turn into Audi. No
one seems to want to work without Everyone who looks
at Audi goes despite the fact they're a big, well
resourced operation. They don't seem you can't convince science to
go to Saba if something's wrong with them. Anyway, they've
got Hulknberg. So there's a seat. There's basically three seats.

(01:22:52):
There is technically a seat at Mercedes, but Antonelli looks
like he'll go there, not that they've announced that yet,
So there's a couple of seats available. But it's it's
getting a little bit arky. Speaking of cars, by the way,
we had a very good month in July for new
car sales in this country. Let me give you the numbers.
New car sales a bump in July. There were four
hundred and twenty five new light vehicles sold. Of those,

(01:23:14):
six thousand, three hundred and forty one with passengers, three
thousand and eighty four were commercial. How many more cars
we sell in July than we sold in June? Two?
Two more cars from June to Julyah, quite the bump.
Two cars. So you got usual favorites in there at
the top of the pile. All the usuals fully electric

(01:23:35):
alternatives were quote unquote completely absent from the top.

Speaker 15 (01:23:40):
Ten Porsche not so much of a bump.

Speaker 3 (01:23:42):
Not so much of a bump on the EV department,
more of a cliff, I know, Porsche said, was it
Thursday or Friday? Porsche internationally said, they're pulling back on
the old EV strategy at the moment. We're not quite
going as hard out as we possibly can towards that
EV future scene. We've seen the future and it's well,
it's not full of evs as it turns out. Ten
away from nine.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
The Mike Hostle Breakfast with Us Talk.

Speaker 3 (01:24:07):
He realized this, Mike, I'm trying to get Simon as
in Barnett to play your country song for his Friday
competition songs because he's going through a dry spell at
the moment. He's not that keen. Well, that's why he
keeps losing. So they do this competition whereby they all
play a song as it called to you the man
or it's whatever, whatever it's picked the song whatever it is,
and they play this song in which is favorite, and

(01:24:30):
he's not winning, and he's not winning because he's got
no taste, and you're trying to help him murray, and
your be's not listening to you. There is none so
blind as those who will not see they're not going
to sack Gracado. Mike Horner loves him and he's great
for pr Maria, I tend to agree with you. That's
why it's getting interesting, because the clause comes in sidding
there having dinner last night, talking about glorious wife staring

(01:24:54):
at a couple of the new kitchen Aid glass containers
that are part of the New World promotion. And the
first question I asked her was, is the glass container
promotion do you think her being a greater expert in
this area than I am, as popular as previous New
World sticker promotions, because it struck me as I looked

(01:25:16):
at this glass container to be a particularly boring thing
to get as a result of spending hundreds of dollars
at the grocery shop. And she said, well, the world
is moving towards glass, and we are she informed me.
In our house we are moving away from plastic. I said,
are we? She goes, we are, indeed. So these were
useful to the extent that their one KitchenAid and kitchen
Aid's a very good label or name or brand, and

(01:25:38):
two glasses better than plastic. So we are benefiting our
house as a result of all of this, But I
still find them boring as far as things go. Then
I came to the stick account because that's what inevitably
where the conversation leads from there, and I worked out
and correct me if I'm wrong, But you're getting a
sticker for twenty bucks, so five sticks per hundred. You

(01:25:59):
needed thirty stickers to get a medium sized glass container.
Do the math, Sorry, no one can do math in
this country. I got my calculator out there. That's precise
six hundred dollars worth of groceries for one medium sized
glass container.

Speaker 23 (01:26:15):
I'm thinking, so that makes it differentely collectible at that point,
it's like use I hope it's insurable at that point.

Speaker 3 (01:26:23):
Six hundred dollars worth of groceries for one medium sized
glass kitchen aid container. So anyway, I'm just I just
wanted some feedback on that, because I just don't see
that as good.

Speaker 15 (01:26:33):
It ain't no little shop, is it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:35):
No, it's no little shop, That's what I'm saying. I
mean I thought Little Shop was crap, but other people
thought it was greatest thing in the history.

Speaker 23 (01:26:40):
I mean, ideally, you want a container that's in the
shape of a little shop supermarket.

Speaker 3 (01:26:46):
You know, if you could do that. Yeah, yeah, look,
it's your use they thought about that. Actually, just just
get the lawyers onto that link because that could be
a good idea. Five minutes away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
Trending Now with Chemist Wells keeping Kiwi's.

Speaker 13 (01:26:58):
Healthy all year.

Speaker 3 (01:27:00):
Speaking of genius and genius ideas, J D. Evans has
gone viral again this morning. He's apeated on another podcast,
the Nilk Boys. I know, not haled them, but they
were talking about when you got the cool from Trump
to become the petty tunes out and this is breaking
news tunes out. He actually missed the cool first time round, so.

Speaker 25 (01:27:17):
Hey, I'm like, oh no, So I call Trump and
I'm like, hey, sir, what's going on. He's like, Jad,
you missed a very important phone call. And now I'm
gonna have to pick somebody else, and I'm you know,
I like tense up and almost have.

Speaker 11 (01:27:28):
A heart attack.

Speaker 25 (01:27:30):
And the crazy thing about it is my son, who's seven,
is in the hotel room with me, and he's really
into Pokemon cards right now. He's going through a Pokemon phase.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
Are you guys into Pokemon.

Speaker 3 (01:27:40):
Back in the day.

Speaker 25 (01:27:40):
Yeah, that's a big phase right now, I think in general. Yeah, yeah,
So I mean he's really into it. So he's trying
to talk to me about Pikachu, and I'm on the
phone with Donald Trump, and I'm like, son, shut the
hell up for thirty seconds about Pikachu. Is the most
important phone call in my life. Please just let me
take this phone call.

Speaker 3 (01:27:58):
Son, you single cat lady kid, you shut your hell up.
Shut the hell up, shut the hell up.

Speaker 15 (01:28:07):
Firm parenting, which will be inspirational.

Speaker 3 (01:28:09):
To exactly so there will be a certain group of
Americans who find that very uplifting and inspirational. Not too
much good.

Speaker 23 (01:28:15):
Then I took out my large pistol and I pat
him around the head with the butt of it, and
he never did it again.

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
Ah.

Speaker 3 (01:28:24):
That is us for the day. Not a bad Monday
all in all, Mike. Similar containers that came out no,
you can't give me that. The similar is not the
same thing. Buying cheap plastic crap elsewhere for less is
not a comparison.

Speaker 15 (01:28:37):
There will be something less than six hundred dollars. I reckon.

Speaker 3 (01:28:39):
Yeah, yeah, but you got groceries for the six hundred dollars.
You know what I'm saying. It's not like you got nothing.
You've got some groceries. You got your musket for the price.
You've got three or four good things at the supermarket
for that. Anyway, back tomorrow morning, it's beautiful, is it?

Speaker 1 (01:28:55):
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