Full Show Podcast: 04 July 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the Mic asking
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and rural news talks Head be.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Billy, Welcome today. More law changes this time on trespass,
more change in a building of a house sirm Akston
Tarpeau over the moraification of councils A Cody Taylor on
the All Black's return for the year, Tomcatie after rate,
Richard Arnold in the States of Murray Olds out of
Australia for you, asking welcome to the day. We've got
a survey out in the last couple of days. It
broadly supported the government's moves around ki we Saver. That's

(00:32):
the three and three to four and four. You know
your three percent contribution employers three percent going to four percent.
But they wanted the government in the survey to do
something about the cut and contribution from the state. That
that change came into effective course this week. Small hint
for you if you rely on the government for any
consistency around long term projects, forget it. Government. From the
very beginning of Kei We Sab was always going to

(00:53):
be the wehaklink dedication and focus from government when it
comes to big picture stuff is a casualty of the
three year political cycle. They were never going to be
our friend on retirement savings. The best advice I offer anyone,
in fact, including our kids, do it yourself. It's your life,
your decision, your future. Do it yourself now. To show
you how hopeless we are at saving in this country,
figures released last week in America showed their key we

(01:16):
sabor what they call their four h one K hit
a record of fourteen point three percent. That's on average,
most Americans put in fourteen point three percent into their savings.
So while we're mucking around on three and four, they're
up to fourteen. And here's the kicker. The industry says, look,
it really needs to be over fifteen if you want
to be comfortable. So a psychological step change is required,

(01:37):
and are not sure we're ever actually going to get there,
whether it's employer contributions that get offered instead of more pay,
or whether it's the Australian style compulsion. A lot of
countries do it a lot of different ways, and most
of them have dealt with the age of retirement as well.
We are basically stuck with the sixty five and this
angst around even having a debate about changing it, and
far too many people who get to retirement are stuck

(01:58):
with a state funded payout that has never been good
and will not serve you well. If that's all you
have to live off, there is of course no reason
for this even to be a problem at all. Leak
onon you many many years ago, and Singapore took a
third world country, told them to say, force them to save,
and now they're rich. The answers, they're all there. Australia's
got it sort at the Norway Funders famous. Even the
Americans at fourteen point three percent, seem to have it solved.

(02:20):
We need to look and learn and then get our
act together and apply a bit of basic discipline to
our long term futures that doesn't rely on the government.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
News of the world. In ninety seconds, Rachel.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Reeves drama of this time yesterday is still reverberating around
the market, so she's turned up to reassure us all.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
I guess the thing that maybe is a bit different
between my job and many of your viewers is that
when I'm having a tough day, it's on the telly
and most people don't have to deal with that while
we're in Britain.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
A couple of other things. Liverpool's Dogo Jotter, as you've
heard in the news, has been killed. The team and
the Deputy Prime Minister are devastated.

Speaker 5 (02:56):
It is absolutely heartbreaking and just shows how life events
can change very quickly, and you know, I'm absolutely devastated
for his wife and his children and his family.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
BBC fall out on Bob Villain rolls into another day.

Speaker 6 (03:10):
We deeply regret that such offensive and deplorable behavior appeared
on the BBC and want to apologize to our viewers
and listeners and in particular the Jewish community in Stateside.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
The non farm jobs numbers, they're out headline that looks good,
Oh what does it?

Speaker 7 (03:25):
A lot of the jobs were in what Treasury Secretary
Scott the song calls government adjacent healthcare and social assistance.
So then when you look a little bit deeper at
the private sector, it didn't look particularly strong.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
On the hill, the big Beautiful Bill is being slowed
down yet again by the Dims and Hakim who's doing
another of these famous multi owl specials.

Speaker 8 (03:46):
The GP tax skin that guts Medicaid rips food from
the mouths of children, seniors, and veterans, and rewards billionaires
with massive tax bricks.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Very Corey Booker longest floor speech Kevin McCarthy twenty twenty one,
he did eight hours and thirty two. So they use
what's called the magic minute rule. That's all ended, and
they're literally voting on this now, and I'm assuming because
they're voting, they've got the numbers it will pass. I'll
keep you posted. A word from a run over that
twelve day skirmish that died in some V two action
on their nuclear programs. They're still not ovorite.

Speaker 9 (04:23):
It was a kind of unproval surprise aggression against Urenians.
They killed many Urenians. Close to one thousand people lost
their lives in this wishous act of.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
What Finally, scientists have been looking at people who habitually
run late. They've got a new term for it. It's
called time blindness. Time blindness is a symptom of someone
with ADHD or those on the spectrum means they find
it difficult to understand the perception of time passing. They
don't have the internal clock like the majority of us do.
They also have an inability to judge how long a
task will last since they're always running late. Use the

(05:00):
world in ninety their job number, by the way, the
headline year was good, higher than expected. They thought one ten,
they got one four seven. Andrew breaks it down in
a moment twelve past six.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
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Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, the votes on the Republicans can afford three nays.
There are twenty nine of them still to vote, and
they've got one nay currently. And as I say, I'm
assuming because they held and stalled the thing up yesterday
for hours on end because they had lost four and
they were trying to convince at least one of them
to flip back. And I think they've probably done that.
By the way, if you're off to Europe for the holidays,

(05:41):
there's a two day air traffic controller strike of course
in France. Why wouldn't maybe fifteen past six, Rob Jmi, well,
Pendra Keller had good.

Speaker 10 (05:51):
Morning, Very good morning, Mike. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
What do'll we make of those jobs numbers?

Speaker 11 (05:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (05:56):
Actually, before that, I was just going to very quickly
comment you're talking about the retirement savings. As you know,
my son went through college. He went through business school
in the US, they absolutely drilled into them the importance
of saving a minimum of ten percent of take home
pay outside of any other assistance you might get. But anyway,
this job's number overnight, Yeah, big day coming up for
the US, isn't it July fourth?

Speaker 10 (06:17):
Big holiday for them. But overnight big economic.

Speaker 12 (06:20):
News was the release of non farm pay rolls, the
big monthly read on the jobs market.

Speaker 10 (06:24):
Now, I think you're right.

Speaker 12 (06:25):
Expectations leading in whether the US economy had added one
hundred and six to one hundred and ten thousand jobs
that got knocked out the park. They actually had one
hundred and forty seven thousand jobs, and the prime number
was revised slightly higher as well, and forecast unemployment rate
leading in they thought it'd be four point three percent.
Came in at four point one percent. So these are

(06:46):
what we would call significant beats. But I think you
had a comment earlier on what was interesting was that
the detail because the private sector employment was weak, I
think they only added I think it was about seventy
four thousand jobs in the private sector, So the bulk
of that beat came from public sector hiring, which was
very robust, and you saw of surge in public education employment. Now,

(07:09):
just looking at wages average out at Earlings, they were
sort of quite benign three point seven percent year and year.
That's the lowest they seen since July twenty twenty four.

Speaker 10 (07:17):
So the thing is mike on this one.

Speaker 12 (07:19):
Irrespective of the breakdown, the fact that well private sector
was weak, public sector was strong, the headline number probably
reduces the chance of a rate cut by the Federal
Reserve in July. And these numbers do move the market.
I mean, the US share markets wrecked positively to this.
Nasac's up over one percent, not far away from that
for the Dow Jones and the S and P five

(07:39):
hundred as well. The bond market was less enthusiastic, seen
a tick hire and US Treasury interest rates up seven
points on the tenure rate there, But that market has
been pretty well behaved recently, so I don't think that's
a significant move. I will say one thing here, I'm
a little bit nervous about this recent price section we've
seen in major US share market incies.

Speaker 10 (08:00):
There's sort of price for perfection now.

Speaker 12 (08:02):
It just seems to me that there are still a
number of unresolved issues and plenty of uncertainty out there
at the moment. But hey, you can't stand in front
of something that's going as strong as that, can You.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Still only one nay? How does this affect us?

Speaker 13 (08:14):
You?

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Reckon?

Speaker 10 (08:15):
Well? Yeah, this one big, beautiful bill.

Speaker 12 (08:17):
I just there's another common time want to make about this, Mike,
because it's squeaked its way through the Senate, didn't it
only by the grace of a casting vote from Vice
President jd Vance. But look, our job, mic is investment people,
is to sort of look ahead and think about the
impacts of major developments like this. In this case, Mic,
it's been really challenging because there's so much debate and

(08:38):
varied opinion around the actual impact of the change in
proposing the bill, and so much of the analysis is
colored by where it's coming from. So if you look
at the White House Council of Economic Advisors, clearly that's
coming from you from the administration, very different view of
the impact from that of say, the Congressional Budget Office,

(08:59):
and they are pole apart, Mike, absolutely polls of up
the White House is saying that in twenty twenty eight
you'll get almost a five percent lift in US GDP
from the impact of the big beautiful bill that is
just streets ahead. What everyone else is saying, how many
people are going to lose access to Medicaid? Well, that
very much depends on who you believe. Equally, the impact

(09:19):
on the US federal deficit is subject of very different forecasts.
My view, Mike is this adds to the US fiscal deficit,
but that will be mitigated by a lifting growth, and
we will only know that as that growth unfolds. What
I can also say, we've got to look at the counterfactual, hair, Mike.
If they don't extend the tax cuts that are due

(09:39):
to expire, that would be a huge hereits to grow.

Speaker 10 (09:42):
So I think that's important. Hey, look, this stuff all does.

Speaker 12 (09:45):
Impact on us, Mike. It moves the currencies around, it
moves the bond markets around. It's important that we sort
of keep on top of the stuff.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
I'm almost out of time at four point five. I mean,
I'd buy a bit of debt for that, wouldn't you.
Clearly everyone else's we.

Speaker 12 (09:59):
Had a big bond tend yesday, Mike, still massive amounts
of demand for this thirty one billion dollars bid for
six billion dollars worth of bonds. So we are funding
at the moment. This is May thirty one bonds issued
at four point zero eight seveny five successful tender friends
at DMO I think they'll be happy numbers please forty
four thy eight hundred and twenty out on the dal
Jones it's up.

Speaker 10 (10:18):
Three hundred and forty four points three coarters of percent.

Speaker 12 (10:21):
S and P five hundred up point eight percent sixty
two seven nine and the NASDAC up over one percent
two hundred and eight points twenty thousand, six hundred and
one Overnight. The foot two one hundred withstood the storm
of the flutter in the bond market, up fifty points
eighty eight twenty three. The Nika barely moved up twenty
three points. The Shanghai comp set up six, the A

(10:41):
six two hundred lost two yesterday, and the internets fifty
lost eighty points point six two percent twelve thousand, seven
hundred and four. Key we doll up point six to
sixty five against the US point nine two three zero
against the Ossie point five one six o Euro point
four four four five against the pound eighty seven at
nine to nine. Japanese Yeah gold is trading. It's three thousand,

(11:03):
three hundred and twenty nine dollars and break crud sixty
eight dollars and seventy five cents.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Right work, You have a good weekend, Andrew kellaher Jmiwealth
dot co dot in Zhski. Two minutes left in the vote.
Still only one day. When I come back to you,
we will have the result. Six twenty one on the
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Speaker 1 (11:22):
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Speaker 2 (11:27):
At B Here we go. Time is up. There's still
no votes. There's still two no votes, two nays. So
the two no votes will be two of the holdouts,
and someone's going to have them in a corner. Their
foot will be on their throat, their arm will be twisted,
and the threats will be flying. So we'll see where
this goes in just a couple of moments, by the way,
just to give you some sort of indication of what

(11:48):
Trump's dealing with to try and get some of these
people in the Republican Party to turn this guy's Tim
burch At, He's from Tennessee.

Speaker 14 (11:55):
President was wonderful as always, amit of Farnie told me
like seeing me on TV.

Speaker 10 (12:04):
Just kind of call sign for you.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, he signed a bunch of stuff.

Speaker 11 (12:08):
That's cool.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
That's all you have to do. So Tim, I love
watching you on television and Tim's all on board. So
still there's still got two no votes with two nays,
so those two will either sink it or let it through.
By the way, fun fact IF one this weekend Silverstone
of course, and yesterday at Downing Street, Carlos Science, alex Elbon,
Olibeaman and a whole bunch of Team Principles turned up

(12:29):
with Starmer and they were celebrating seventy five years of
F one. And this is a fun fact. I didn't
realize the IF one and it's more than sport. The
F one industry is worth. What do you reckon the
F one industry is worth because of course most of
the teams bar Ferrari have bases in England. What do
you reckon the F one industry is worth to the
British economy. The answer is twenty five billion dollars. That's

(12:52):
the same as our dairy industry. In fact, it's more
than our dairy industry. So you think about IF one
is worth more than our dairy industry to their economy.
It's amazing a six twenty.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
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Speaker 2 (13:08):
Let me introduce you to Mark White, the topic has
football gone too woke? Mark's the owner and manager of
Dorking Dorking Wanderers. He was talking about his various suspensions.

Speaker 15 (13:19):
He's got four fantastic record last year I think twelve
stadium ban it was in total, which beat my previous best. Yeah,
I beat my previous best. This year I've gone easy mate. Obviously,
more women refs now, so you have to pay a
bit more respect, you know what I mean? You have
to pay a bit more respect like Elpham Park, do
you know.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
What I mean?

Speaker 15 (13:40):
But yeah, but yeah, I'm getting a bit better.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
That didn't go well from He's been banned for that
can't be on the sideline for six matches after being
charged by the Football Association for quote insulting or abusive
words in an interview. Tran's also have been busy yesterday.
I wonder whether it sits heavily on Powell's shoulders. He
he said, too late, needs to sign this what he
calls your own pal too late, too late, should resign immediately.

(14:09):
Powell of course this week said that he would have
cut rates already, which is what Trump wants, of course,
if it hadn't been for the terriffs. Now we've got
some morrification coming up in Tapo. They had a meeting
min understanding was yesterday. I don't know if anything came
out of the meeting yesterday. There's increasing angst about a
deal that was done a number of years ago, started
back in two thousand and nine. They're looking the claimers

(14:31):
to expand the jurisdiction. The claim also is that there's
no sort of consultation with the Tapeau community and the
Central North Island community and this is all one massive
stitch up. So we'll see how much of that's true
with the Mayor of tape for you in a couple
of moments. Then we're going into the business of more justice.
After seven o'clock this morning. New rules around this time
insulation round housing. Basically, what they're wanting to do is

(14:52):
loosen up the way you can build a house. The
claim this time is if you do it this way,
you can save on average about fifteen thousand dollars on
in bill, which is well worth it. Cody Taylor all
Black with US after seven to thirty as well meantime
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Speaker 11 (15:07):
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Speaker 1 (15:11):
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Speaker 2 (15:21):
In promotion, the Big Beautiful Bill has been passed. There
were only two in the in Republican holdouts here Speaker Johnson.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
Theezer two eighteen and Theser two fourteen. The motion is adopted.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
You gumerally look to True Social NAW to see what
the big guy has to say about A twenty three
minutes away from seven More with Richard Arnold shortly on
the program. Back to the go co Governance angst TAUPO,
updating the two thousand and nine Joint Management Agreement between
the council and NATI tu Paritoa. The critics argue there's
no public mandate and that the treaty principles are in
bedding co governance directly into council operations. The Mayor of

(16:02):
TAPO is David Trewavas, who's back with a devid morning
to you.

Speaker 16 (16:06):
Yeah, good morning mane.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Now I'm very well, thank you. My understanding was you
were doing this yesterday. Is that correct or no?

Speaker 16 (16:12):
We were just having a workshop on it just to
you know, let the public know and inform them about it. Yeah,
it's absolutely got nothing to do co governance. It's all
about protecting the lake and the trivity is to come
into the lake. So some rogue person has gone to
hobsinceles Ledge and sort of stirred it all up. But
it's got nothing to do with co governan. It's about

(16:34):
looking up the lake, the owners of the lake.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Let me come back to that in the moment. As
far as the workshop goes, who turns up? And is
the community engaged generally?

Speaker 16 (16:42):
Yeah, quite a bit crowd actually, fifty to seventy probably
people there more mature age group. But that's all good
and you know, let people know what's happening and all
that sort of thing. It's just an upgrading of an
agreement that we've had for years. And you know, like
you know, who doesn't want to protect the lakes. So

(17:04):
they all went away I think reasonably happy, but who knows?

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Okay, but yeah, is there general angst? Once again? I'll
come back to your lake comment on the moment. But
is there general angst around the moraification of how town,
cities and regions in this country are run in your area,
do you think?

Speaker 16 (17:23):
Well, I don't think so. You know, I'm on the
ground pretty much all day and every day in the
CBD of Topol, and you know, yeah, two Fundy Tar
people are just such beautiful people, led by Sirtumuta Hugh,
the Paramount Chief. You only paramount chief in New Zealand.
They install the actual Mary King was first done here

(17:44):
in the late eighteen hundreds.

Speaker 10 (17:45):
You know.

Speaker 16 (17:45):
So that and sixty five percent of the landmark is
owned by two Fundy Tar So why would you not
have some sort of arrangement with them?

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Okay, so here's what they're saying. Unlike the original two
thousand and nine agreement, which followed eight months of the
Togo and a documented series of public and harbor meetings,
this proposed update no public visibility. You would say, not true.

Speaker 16 (18:06):
No, not true. Were set up a subcommittee to a
couple of we're a little bit overdre and actually doing this,
But a couple of years ago set up a subcommittee
which we always do with counsel, and you know they've
been working away and chipping away, and like any arrangement,
you know, it takes a bit of a bit of
a bit of here and there with it, and a
bit of too and throw and and now we're present,

(18:29):
ready to present to the public and see what they see,
what they say, you know, the.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Public though, and this is where I suppose it gets
a bit crunchy. What did the public go, We're sick
of this, we don't want it?

Speaker 16 (18:38):
Then what, well, yeah, we we what we agreed to yesterday.
We've got the staff to go and do a paper
on what consultation looks like, you know, you know, is
that a possibility and all that sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
So what do you mean as consultation of possibility? Surely
you're going to consult No.

Speaker 16 (18:57):
No, Well, it's an agreement between two food it Tar
which own the lake. Remembery, it's a privately owned lake,
just massive fresh water in New Zealand, privately owned and
the Council two foot Marriage Trust Board have been around
for one hundred years, you know, so we've got a
wonderful relationship with them, so why not destroy that? But

(19:18):
the possibility of you know, consulting, and so.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Maybe no consultation.

Speaker 16 (19:25):
David I think we're probably leaning towards it, but we'll
just see what the council, what the councilors say when we.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Come and if they say yes to consultation and the
consultation tells you unequivocally that people don't want this, does
that going to make any difference or are we wasting
our time on consultation.

Speaker 16 (19:43):
Well, we have the luxury of using a privately owned
lake here, you know, so no.

Speaker 13 (19:47):
I know that.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
But if you conside with the people and the people
tell you something, do you ignore them? Oh?

Speaker 16 (19:53):
I know, not necessarily, we take it on board. You know,
we're all from different backgrounds and all that sort of things.
So you know, well, we'll go away and you know,
discuss what the consultation results in, and then come back
to you know, come back to the to a public
meeting and make a decision.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Do you reckon this will be an issue come the
end of the year in local bodies.

Speaker 16 (20:15):
I don't think so. I think once once people actually
look at the deal, understand the deal, know about it.
It's all about protecting the lake, which is one of
the cleanest lakes in the world, you know, So we
don't want to end up like another Lake, you know
where you know that we can't use and so yeah,

(20:36):
it's just all about all about positions like nothing to
do co governance.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
All right, I appreciate your time very much. David Wavers
gives the TAPO mayor summation. As I thought he started
well when it went a bit pear shaped by the
end of it on the consultation business. So the claims
are expanded. Jurisdiction, governant, governance of by treaty, principal policy
influence without authorough, no financial guardrails, no reporting, her oversight,

(21:02):
and consultation has been sidelined. So make up your own mind.
Seventeen minutes away from seven Mike.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, car
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Speaker 2 (21:16):
It be Mike with flimsy local representation like that and
no wonder so many kiwis moving overseas pathetic. Well, it's
got nothing to do with moving overseas. Do something about it.
If I do nothing else this year, if I get
enough people out to a local body election, then I
might think I've achieved something for the year. I mean,
you heard it, you don't like it. Do something about it. Mike,
what's happening in that mushroom killer case in Australia. Surely

(21:37):
they've made a decision by now, No, they haven't. It'll
be interesting to see whether they get there today and
if they don't, whether they go into the weekend. The
longer it goes, I think, the more likely it is
that you will get off. But more on that later
with Murray of course six forty.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Five International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of
mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Good aren't old State side morning, Good morning mate. They
got there.

Speaker 17 (21:59):
Yeah, no surprise. Trump muscled through his megabill with a
razor sin margin. But a win's a win, right. Two
Republicans voted against this scene that was expected. They could
lose only three, so it was pretty close, as you
said a short time ago, two hundred and eighteen to
two hundred and fourteen votes, mostly party line. As soon
as this was announced, there was raucous cheering from the Republican.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
Side without objection. The motion to reconsider is laid on
the team.

Speaker 17 (22:30):
A bit like a football game, I guess. There was
lots of drama throughout the entire process, but ultimately Trump
bullied the vast majority of House Republicans into signing on
to what he calls his big Beautiful Bill and Democrats
call his big ugly Bill. It all climates with a
record breaking speech by the Democratic leader in the House
of King Jeffries, who spoke for eight hours forty four
minutes and count them twenty five seconds, so longer than

(22:53):
anyone in any House speech. Ever, still, it only delayed
the vote, didn't derail it. As soon as the big
speech was done, Republicans call for the final Italian speaker
Mike Johnson was sure he had the numbers. Late last night,
though fine Republicans suggested they would kill the bill and
not even allow a vote to happen. Then Trump was
wheeled in. This was the middle of a night. There
was a flurry of phone calls with Trump. He got
them all in tow Here's what some of the Republican

(23:15):
critics of the bill said until Trump jumped in.

Speaker 11 (23:18):
It is uncomsgable.

Speaker 18 (23:20):
I'll vote a guesst it here and I'll vote against
it on the floor until we get it right.

Speaker 14 (23:25):
I'll tell you the last minute changes in the Senate,
like literally the very last amendment probably added about one
hundred billion dollars to that deficit by adding in some
of the green new scam subsidies.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
The bottom line is this is not ready for prime time.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
And we believe it all short.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
We believe that it will create too much spending and
that is too much in the way of deficits.

Speaker 17 (23:47):
Yeah, these are Republicans talk talk talk when it came
to making actual votes on adding five point four to
five trillion to the dead, or knocking maybe twelve point
eight million people of healthcare for the poor, men kicking
many our food money. Three of those individuals cave to
report today for Morgan Stanley says, with its debt spiking,
the US dollar is on track for the worst year
in its modern history. Probably can Speaker Mike Johnson then

(24:11):
move for the final vote while praising the president.

Speaker 14 (24:15):
Our bold, visionary, fearless President Donald J.

Speaker 17 (24:19):
Trump, while his Democratic counterpart quoted the late civil rights
leader doctor Martin Luther King on the need to quote
unquote press on to fight.

Speaker 19 (24:28):
Press on for working class Americans, press on for the
middle class, press on for all who aspire to be
part of the middle class. Press on for the poor,
press on for the sick, press on for the afflictive,
press on for the least press on for the loss,
press on for the left behind, press on for the

(24:50):
rule of law, press on for the American way of life,
press on for democracy. We're going to press on until
victory is why.

Speaker 11 (25:02):
So?

Speaker 17 (25:03):
Yeah, this is an eight hours, forty four minutes plus
into the thing. Speaker Johnson ridiculed all of that, elaborately
putting down a folder of notes when he's spoken what
we've seen as mocking his counterpart, and now I guess
it's down a messaging and all lead up to the
mid terms. Twenty twenty six, Trump gets his fourth of
July victory lap. The bill does include two hundred and
eighty seven billion New Zealand more for immigration enforcement. There's

(25:25):
word today that Los Angeles has called off some of
their Independence Day celebrations bd deportation fears. Since Trump's ice,
immigration agents have boosted there around US with sixteen hundred
and eighteen arrests so far in La alone. Parts of
the city are almost a ghost town. Many people are
staying home and the Fourth of July block party that
usually happens in the city's Grand Park Council.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
All right, mate, you have a good July fourth. Richard
Arnold State side and speaking which, by the way, the
barbecue cost of a barbecue a cookout as they call it,
from a congressional report. The cost of a typical grocery
trip for a cookout this year's up by twelve zero
point seven percent. Six packs of Miller Lite and Cores
up thirteen percent. That's beer, of course, they looked at
Walmart Popular products track their prices between April and June.

(26:10):
Imported beers up ten and a half percent. The Coleman
foldable camping chairs increase forty seven point seven percent, of
twenty five piece griddle accessories kits up seventeen point seven percent,
of banana boats. Sunscreen that's a point one Reynolds wrap
aluminium foil six point nine. The Weber propane gas grill
that's up five percent, the multi pack of disposable plates
and utensils three point three percent. It's expensive to barbecue

(26:32):
ten away from seven.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
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togs had been.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Leasually speaking of prices going up. I got two very
good emails this morning, one from one about gas, one
about medical insurance. And I'll come back to those after
seven o'clock this morning, and also on the old Inbox
this morning was a very nice letter from one of
the uth MP's this week who participated and is suggesting
that what you heard in the media wasn't even close
to reality. It's interesting when a young person can go

(27:00):
to the Parliament and work out the media is already
a bit cooked, worrying and interesting. Amazon. By the way,
Jeff and Lauren, they're on their hoymoon. Don't know where
one of their dresses got nicked. She had seventeen, she
has seventeen or twenty seven, can't remember anyway one of
them got Next world's largest manufacturer and operator of mobile robotics.
The news yesterday was they have deployed their one millionth robot.

(27:25):
The entire fleet is going to be powered by their
newly launched Generative Artificial Intelligence model three hundred facilities they've
got around the world. When did they start employing robots?
Answer me that question. When did they start employing the
robots to have their one millionths deployed? Yesterday? When did
they start? How long have robots been around? Answer? Give
me a number, Samy four years ago, so twenty twenty one, Glenn.

Speaker 20 (27:51):
How long has Amazon been a thing.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
I don't know. I'm not asking them.

Speaker 20 (27:55):
That's what my answer is. As long as Amazon has
been a thing I have to.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Deal with every day Abit Truevson tape.

Speaker 20 (28:01):
So I mean, what are we talking twenty five years.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Maybe twenty twelve, five minutes away from seven.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
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business fiber, take your business productivity to the next level.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
White House, who earns what salary? Reporters out? Annual salary
report from the White House is out. We've done the
numbers on the conversion. So all these numbers are the
New Zealand PAESO people in the White House in between
ninety seven and three hundred and seventy two thousand. Highest
paid's woman called jackal and Klop. She's a senior advisor.
She's the only one earning three hundred and seventy two.
The second is Edgar Mitchien. He gets three hundred and

(28:39):
thirty five. He's an associate council. Thirty three people are
earning three hundred and twenty two thousand dollars. They include
people you know, Carolyn Leavitt, Tom Homan, who's the borders
are Susan Wiles, Peter Navarro, Stephen Miller. You got one
hundred and eight people receiving somewhere between ninety seven and
one hundred and thirty two thousand. The speech writer's not bad.
If you're a speech writer. The you earning between one

(29:00):
fifty two and a couple of hundred thousand dollars year.
Mind you, he add libs most, but anyway, just put
a few headlines in. President's salary is six hundred and
sixty thousand. That's New Zealand. It's four hundred thousand. American
has moved for ages. They're not really interested in earning
the money, obviously because of the influence and the power
and all that sort of stuff. He also gets, ironically done.
This is weird. The president gets eighty two thousand dollars
expense allowance. He gets one hundred and sixty five thousand

(29:22):
for travel, but of course he goes everywhere, and medicaid
in the Air Force one's that's not part of that
one hundred and sixty five thousand, So I don't know
what he uses that on. Thirty one thousand dollars for entertainment,
that's all paid for as well, So it's the weirdest thing.

Speaker 20 (29:34):
Gun So does that include like perfume profits, phone profits,
very good, art mean coin profits, keep talking.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Weird to get Sydney Morning Herald have a look under
the head libel profits nine hundred and forty two million
dollar windfall reshapes his fortune. It's a deep dive into
how he's making his money. And it is crypto, and
it's perfumes and sneakers and developments and golf for most
the speakers.

Speaker 11 (29:59):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
So there's a lot going on in the business world
of Donald J. Trump, Housing, cheaper, more detailed, shortly.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
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Speaker 3 (30:15):
Togs Head be.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Seven past seven, So has the Justice Minister had the
work of his life or what?

Speaker 11 (30:19):
Yet?

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Another announcement, this time trespass laws. Businesses will now be
able to trespass individuals from multiple locations. Finds increased from
one thousand to two thousand. Tresspass period moves to three years.
Steve Armitage's Hospitality in New Zealand's Bosson is back with
the Steve Morning, Good.

Speaker 21 (30:33):
Morning, Mike.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Is this a move in the right direction?

Speaker 21 (30:36):
Yes, it certainly is, as you've outlined the trespassed laws
of the Black Teeth. They've been outdated for some time.
When the law was introduced back in nineteen eighty, a
fine of one thousand dollars was much more material than
it is some forty five years later. In fact, I
went and looked at what the world back says in
the purchasing pair of one thousand dollars in nineteen eighty
equates to around fifty thousand dollars today. So on that basis,

(30:58):
you could say these proposed lines don't go fair enough.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Good fun. Fact, Steve Nice to bring it to the program. Now,
how big an issue was trespassing generally in hospo.

Speaker 21 (31:07):
It is an issue in our in our environment. They're
mainly issued for anti social behavior and intoxication, and that
can be quite challenging if someone's had a few and
isn't thinking straight or listening to reason. So enforcement is
really important here. We're certainly going to need to see
every one of those new recruits that the government's committed
to delivering, because ultimately these are great measures and they're

(31:28):
removing the right direction, but enforcement is going to be key.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
That would anyone pay a fine, well, that's not really
your problem. It's it's not so.

Speaker 21 (31:38):
Much the problem where I hoping that access as a
deterrent more than anything. But ever say, I think there's
room for those fines to move to there's a much
stronger measure.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
And the three new thing, What would you boot you
one out for three years? Or is that a bit extreme?

Speaker 21 (31:52):
I think there would be cases where that's that's warranted.
We've certainly seen incidences where the level of violence has
has crossed the threshold. And I know operators out there
would much rather want to keep their staff and their
customers safe than have some of the pavio that happens
on site at times happen.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Well, it's good that, it's good news. I've got consumer
spending numbers out yesterday. I'm noting that hospow is down.
What have I got two point four percent? Are you
feeling that scene?

Speaker 11 (32:15):
That?

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Does that? About right? Feel about right?

Speaker 4 (32:18):
Look?

Speaker 21 (32:19):
I think in a general sense, the hospital is improving.
I think rumors of us to kind have been unfounded
for some time. If you look at the number of
hospitality businesses operating now, there's more than there was five
years ago, There's more than there was ten years ago.
It's closures that tend to dominate the headlines, but there's
new venues opening up all the time. So look, I've
heard you say on the show and I agree with
you. You know, those operators that do a good job and

(32:40):
deliver good experiences for their customers, they'll find a way through.
So look, we're pretty encouraged by the fact that visited
numbers continue to pack up. We're hoping that that'll be
the case over the course of the summer and hospital
will continue to thrive.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Well said, appreciate you telling you have a good weekend,
Steve Armatage, Hospitality Can New Zealand CEO nine and it's
past seven scar just on consumer spending, not so Hospit's
down two point four percent. And I concur with what
he was concurring with with what I said, and that
is that if you're good, if you build it, they
will come. So spending up overall lifted a year on year.

(33:13):
Auckland North and down significantly minus four point three, Nelson
down zero point five, Whitecat is up three point three.
That'll be the field days core retail highest in Wanganui's
six point nine. That's massive Taranaki over forour Nelson over four,
Wellington Down, Auckland, Northland down. It was just sort of
a picture of where we're at.

Speaker 11 (33:32):
Now.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
We've got movement of the construction sector to tell you
about this morning as well. Overall, our insulation requirement's going
to change. What we're doing is a whole of house
approach and that allows more flexibility into potential saving it.
They say fifteen thousand dollars off and you build. So
Julian Lais is the chief executive of the Building Industry
Federation and he's with us. Julian morning, Good morning Mike.

(33:53):
The schedule method doesn't allow for design trade offs. I
read in the early hours of this morning. What does
that mean?

Speaker 18 (34:00):
Well, look, it's a one size fits all. So basically
what that is, it's a straight jacket. It forces you
to use an exact amount of insulation depending on what
zone that we live in. But it means it's more
expensive and potentially over the top.

Speaker 11 (34:13):
So doing away with.

Speaker 18 (34:14):
It and relying on the calculation modeling methods means that
we're going to have a lot more flex so designers
can use you know, a bigger range of materials which
ultimately will bring costs down.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Okay, so if you do the right thing. By the
end of it, you'll get there as opposed to it
is super prescriptive currently, is what we're saying.

Speaker 18 (34:36):
Yes, I mean the schedule method, though to be fair,
it's simpler to use. You know, there's a simple table,
so you and I could look at that and understand it.
MB could have adjusted the minimum of values and so
that the schedule method would have still come out with
the same outcome. This way though, means that ultimately you've
prot it. You probably do have to depend on on

(34:57):
a designer or an ext to it to help you
do the final calculations. But there's a lot more flex
and that's the key.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Does that explain the twelve month sector transition? Do we
need a twelve month transition? Is it because of that
complexity you've just outlined?

Speaker 11 (35:12):
Yes, it is.

Speaker 18 (35:13):
And look, some of the industry wanted longer. I think
twelve months will be long enough just so people can
adjust themselves to the you know, having to do the
slightly differently. It's definitely enough.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Time good And does the fifteen thousand per house on
average sound about right to you? Because that's a decent chunk.

Speaker 22 (35:33):
There's a decent chunk.

Speaker 18 (35:34):
Look I think time will tell. I think that the
majority of residential dwellings is probably going to be the
cost difference around a little bit more modestly to say
four to five K, but you know potentially up to fifteen.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Okay, good to talk to you. You have a good
weekend as well, Julian Lace four to five K versus
fifteen Have to talk to Chris Pink next time I
have them on the program. You're inflating the old numbers.
Christopher thirteen past seven pasking. Here's an idea, Mike for
super we started the program on souper this morning. How
about we stop employer contributions being taken gradually increased total
contributions to fifteen percent at a rate of one percent

(36:09):
a year. It's not a bad idea morning, Mike, and
New Zealand as general attitude to saving as the government
will take care of you, bollocks. I've always encouraged my
two daughters to save, save, save and save more. My youngest,
twenty four, fourth year VET student just sold their business.
She's paid away all the way through university by investing.
My oldest daughter, twenty eight, owns a couple of houses
in christ Church, is about to finish your PhD. Hard work,

(36:31):
great values and ethics. Good advice for a Friday morning,
thirteen past.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
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Speaker 2 (36:42):
At b Tim and Cady after right, Cody Taylor in
a couple of moments time ahead of the test tomorrow
sixteen past seven. So we've got what seems like a
quite a good idea. The company called the Precious Collaborative,
which is a retail out there in Wanaka. They're selling
their coats at ten thousand dollars. Now. That allows them
and if you go buy a ten thousand dollars coat,
it allows them to subsidize their wool products in the shop. So,

(37:04):
in other words, something you know that you would have
bought for seven hundred dollars suddenly goes down to two
hundred dollars. Now. Clear O Connell is the founder of
this particular company, is with us, clear morning, Good morning.
So the ten thousand dollars, well, thank you. The ten
thousand dollars coat is not ten thousand dollars. It's whatever
it is, plus an extra to offset it is that right?
So it's sort of a charity buy.

Speaker 23 (37:27):
I don't know that I'd call it a charity buy
to be honest, because I think you're by purchasing the coat,
you're supporting so much within this country, from strong wool
industry right through to local production. I don't really call
that charity, but what it is trying to do is
and the two people who've already purchased coats are very
much interested in enabling other people to experience higher end garments.

(37:50):
People often think, first of all, they couldn't possibly cost
that much a seven hundred dollars pair of pounds, and
then they would think, okay, well it couldn't possibly be
worth it, and actually it is. In both cases. They
cost that much to make if you want to use
high quality materials and manufacture in this country, and it
does feel fantastic. So the people who've purchased the coats

(38:10):
both want people who are unable to experience that to
do so, and that's why they're purchasing the coats. And
then a portion of the profit from the coat, the
ten thousand dollars that goes to the code. We've had
one code buyer who's actually asked to pay twenty thousand dollars,
so it's well above the asking prices for the coat
because they understand the concept and a portion of the

(38:31):
profit of that coat, a third of the profit then
drops straight back in to pull garments out of the
true price into the gift price, and that a ten
thousand dollars code purchase will subsidize approximately twenty garments.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Of people coming in and buying the pants.

Speaker 23 (38:45):
Yes, so I sell online through our website. We had
our initial coat sale in December, so we had somebody
buy at auction. They bought for the ten thousand dollars price,
and then we had somebody else purchase the coat in May,
and we launched our collection of over two hundred garments

(39:05):
produced in May June. We're just sending out the remainder
of those. We sold almost one hundred garments and surprisingly
and gratifyingly, ten percent of people paid the true price
they didn't have to, and another five percent paid somewhere
between the gift and the true price. So the model
is proven. I've been working on this for over five years.

(39:28):
I've proved that it works, that people want to get
food quality garments back in we want to shift this
fast fashion problem, and that this is just a sort
of an outside the regular way of doing it, I think, well.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
I'm glad it's working, by the way, do you know,
And I'm Nikolai Solakov. Now, well, he's in Monica as well.
He's in fashion, and he's discovered an old like Oscar
Ride and he's making jackets. So you and him and Wonica,
it's all go.

Speaker 23 (39:58):
I tell you what Wonnaker did. Very interesting spot. I've
lived here for over twenty years and there are some
very interesting people that come to Wanner Coast. Think so
I'll have to look him up.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Look him up and say high from us because he's
he's on to a winner as well. Claire, and nice
to talk to me. You appreciate it, Claire O'Connell. Precious collaborative.
So you buy the flash coat. It subsidizes the pants
and the shirt. Look them up online. And as for
old Nikolai Oscar right, I'd never heard of the label,
but they make what I would loosely call dryser bone
type coats, coats that you wear outside barber type coats,

(40:29):
and they look super cool as well. So there's your
there's your fashion film for Friday morning, seven twenty.

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more to say than a curtailed youth MP July one

(41:49):
seven Now July one was the dately and I didn't
give the number. You can't exactly.

Speaker 20 (41:54):
Seven A lot of cools is actually a lot of
cool stuff alfunctioning equipment.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Here exactly, including highest speed limits on roads where highest
speed limits make sense and increase efficiency are the Supreme Court. Seven,
adding to what looks increasingly like a sellar run for
the President of the US and the big beautiful bill
next cab off the rank ticked off this morning, of course,
Murana Pacificate Hesapa. I think so to Punakokarifana Ora and Tamapotak,

(42:18):
and none of them look urgent about any of this.
Halipads amazing for so many reasons. One well known rich people,
two a ridiculous number of submissions, three a massive waste
of energy, and four they won a Bob Villain one wow.
I kind of hope that the mad agro Daves of
insane raged art events have been curtailed A Bob Villain

(42:39):
seven sucked in good got the US visa canned and
festivals are dropping them like nuclear potatoes.

Speaker 11 (42:44):
Huntley.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Six. The fast start plans, well, let's sit next to
the multi company cooperation plan and the coal pile plan.
And what's it not done is solve our ongoing lack
of generation offensive to girls. Three. The fuss over the
warehouse in that backpack is pathetic. It was a joke.
It was lighthearted. Are they all black?

Speaker 11 (43:07):
Seven?

Speaker 2 (43:08):
New sees, a new hope, new excitement and an easy opener.
Are the worries of six? A nice comfortable spot in
the top four and Metcalf is bad, I know, but
not so bad that it isn't a year by this weekend,
of course, with two easy points the regional deal six,
I mean, on paper it looked a lot of bland wordage.
If reality proves it better, though, that's good. July six.

(43:31):
I mean, just the fact is July I got no
idea where the years gone were? Govi Seven. I mean
that's a lot of publicity in the news for a
product next to no one can afford, isn't it? School
lunch is seven? Because with the new stats, the new
meals and the new feedback, that's a good example of
a problem solved. Now other media are going to give
the same amount of coverage to the answer as they
did to the problem. And West New Zealand six six

(43:55):
sort of like the regional deals, I guess in theory.
Not hard to talk about, but the money flows, good
news all round the RB five. I mean next week,
I don't think they're gonna move and I think longer
term that's going to prove to be a mistake. I mean,
is New Zealand humming No? Would a cut help? Yes,
it's not that hard, is it? And that's the week
copies on the website and if you look carefully, eight
hundred of these worshiped to Venice and worse shredded for

(44:17):
confetti at Jeff and Lawren's wedding. If you're looking for it,
are there the white and yellow bits pascare twenty seven
dresses you had in, one of which has been done
nicked Mike. If the government wants people to say we
should copy Australia more, their retirement contributions are tax free
and withdrawals after sixty seven are also tax free. Here
deposits sax yes, yes, yes, do whatever you like. All
I'm saying is we're not short of ideas. There's no

(44:38):
reason to have a problem. Look around the world. There's
answers galore all over the place. Mike, Mercury bottle rental
charges mercury bean gas are increasing forty two percent, from
thirty six cents a day to fifty one cents a day.
It now costs over a dollar a day just to
have two bottles sitting at your house, which is three
and a half thousand, three thousand, six hundred and fifty
over ten year period. Surely this is the best rental

(44:59):
return in you. It's not a bad point. And that's
before that's probably get two. Malcolm's letter on medical insurance.
He happens to be at the same medical insurance company
I am. And I'll give you some numbers around that,
and then I'll make your hair curl, if you've got
any hair left. Cody Taylor should be easy, shouldn't it really? Tomorrow?
And I have mean been good game and all that
sort of stuff, But I mean they're a bit hopeless,
the French when they travel. And this is even a

(45:19):
good French side, so an easy thrashing, I would have thought. Also,
if you're in the business of procurement, I've got a
hotel for sale. Quite a nice hotel too, so will
crunch a few numbers around that and see if it's
a bit of you. Meantime, the news is as talk sell.

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Speaker 2 (45:48):
Head be a difference. Just before the news, there's business
as this whole Fauna or a report to Punaka Kari
Tama Po taker thing. There is a very very good
piece by Kate mcnamurray. Yet again she strikes again in
the Herald this morning. That's if you followed this story
to this point, that's a must read. It's under the
headline fun or a fund's pro Pacific a futures family

(46:10):
tires question. It's a detail that's a deep dive. It's
multiple pages, but it deals with a number of people
who may or may not have got jobs given on
who they depending on who they knew. And as always
in these sort of scenarios, once you flip the lid
off and ask a few questions, there's a whole lot
of interesting things going on. So read that and we'll

(46:31):
stand by, presumably because remember when Tama was on the program,
he was waiting for that asap. I don't think there's
much a sap going on there at all. But Kate's
done a very good job this morning, twenty three minutes
away from a well first of All Black Tests the
year tomorrow night under the roof, of course, and even
it's the French, but not the best of French. Cody
Taylor's going to be starting at hooker and he's with us.

Speaker 22 (46:53):
Good morning, mate.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Let me start with this, Cody, what's the difference between
coming off the back of the Crusaders and winning to
the All Blacks and winning versus say, coming from a
super team that's lost to the All Blacks and maybe
winning Jesus.

Speaker 22 (47:11):
It's a tough question, I think. Obviously, a couple of
weeks ago finished on a high with the super season,
which is awesome, you know it was. It was a hard,
playoff sort of campaign and managed to get the job done,
which is was awesome to be part of again. But
it's personally I can only speak about myself, but really

(47:31):
excited to be back in this environment. The coaches have
been awesome. Last last week around making sure we get
all the content we need to funt up for this test.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
And how different is the approach just in terms of
what's talked about and how the training goes from you know,
the gap between super in test rugby.

Speaker 22 (47:49):
I just the intensity of trainings, meetings, you know, everything
is there's a lot more on the line. It's test footy,
it's international stuff. But the coaches are really well planned
and they've given us exactly what we need to make
sure we get the job done. In the Black Jersey. Yeah,

(48:11):
there's just a lift of intensity and obviously the caliber
of players. You know, you've got the best in the
country all training together, which one lifts you up and
also makes it a lot a lot harder in the trainings.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
And do guys like you have the advantage? I mean
someone like Razor, is he the same as an all
Black coach as he was with the Crusaders.

Speaker 22 (48:31):
I suppose you sort of know how he works, which helps.
But yeah, you like the her Moon and Scottie Henson
and Jase had them all for a week while now,
so I sort of know how they work. But themselves
that really have really stepped it up in this environment
as well. When you can tell that they want to
be better just the way they coach in this environment.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
And what about the body, how's that going? A lot
of rugby so far. You're in form obviously, so how
are you feeling?

Speaker 22 (48:59):
Actually feel really good? So your campaign was a little
bit tough of what I had a few niggles, but
personally feeling good now to get back into it. You know,
like I said, this, it's a list when you get
into this environment, but that's it's an exciting one to
be a part of.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
And what has been said this week around expectation, first test,
the season, the French aren't what they might be, all
that sort of stuff. What's been talked about?

Speaker 10 (49:22):
Oh yeah, we've.

Speaker 22 (49:23):
Talked around the French. A lot of the language we've
used has been more around like what we want to
do and what we want to achieve. I have to
respect and acknowledged acknowledge your position. You know, we haven't
been in France for a few years since twenty eighteen,
so that itself as a river driver, but the main

(49:45):
focus has sort of been on us and making sure
we get our stuff right because like you said, it's
our first first crack together.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
And what about the announcement with some of the new guys.
As a senior leader in the side, is it your
job to sidle up beside them and you know, give
them a word on how to handle it.

Speaker 22 (50:01):
I think that sort of comes next actually throughout the week.
You know, they're all great young men and I was
sort of no One, says Christian Leoll with the Crusaders,
and he had a great campaign.

Speaker 11 (50:13):
Deserves to be here.

Speaker 22 (50:14):
And then Fabian and Dupes were in the environment last
year and they were awesome last year and you can
tell that they're really ready to get stuck in. And
then as the young Frank Row who's got a lot
of questions, which is great. You know that's what you
want from the boys coming in. You want them offering.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
I've got the All Blacks by thirteen or more? Am
I wrong?

Speaker 22 (50:36):
I hope you're not wrong. I think we can get
stuck in. But at the same time, as a French team,
you know, they're a different beast. They played definitely to
probably what we're used to of late, but it's going
to be tough.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Yeah, all right, mate, go welcome Cody Taylor now to
the All Blacks this morning, eighteen minutes away from its
press release justin from the aforementioned by the way the
PMA from doctor Kie. This is the Pacific Medical Association Group.
They strongly and unequivocally are referenced to Kate McNamara's piece
in the Herald, so still read it. Pacific and Medical
Association Group strongly and unequivocally refute any allegation of impropriety

(51:12):
in our funding, employment and procurement practices. We welcome all
independent inquiries. All actual or potential conflicts, including family relationships,
are de cleared and managed in accordance with these policies.
All staff appointments follow a documented recruitment and approved process.
So that's what they say, and that presumably will be
born out in the report. Right to the business of
the health insurance in a moment and correspond. It's eighteen

(51:32):
to two.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
The Vike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered
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Speaker 2 (51:39):
It be now there's going to be certainly has been
in Australia for the last couple of years given the
weather situation, and in Nelson or the Nelson regions, not
actually Nelson, but the Nelson region in general. In the
last couple of days, this insurance thing is going to
be increasing. Their trying to sort of talk about this
for the last couple of years, but they'll become a
point it won't be too far away where people will
be refused insure and we're going to have to do

(52:01):
something about it. So Malcolm writes to me this morning
on related matters, this is health. I'm eighty four good health.
My NIB health premium has increased thirty four percent. So
I gave you the gas numbers early and they're just ridiculous.
I'm on gas as well, and so the prices just
keep going up and up and up and up and
up and up and up. Increase on medical thirty four percent.
How do they justify that current payment is sixty five

(52:23):
hundred and twenty seven dollars for six months, six thousand,
five hundred dollars for six months. It's one thousand dollars
a month, two hundred and fifty dollars a week. The
new premium is going to be eight thousand, seven hundred
and twenty, which is an increase of twenty one hundred
ninety three for six months, and you'll increase of forty
three hundred and eighty four dollars. How do they justify
that what's happened. Now, there may be individual circumstances in

(52:45):
the individual's case, but he claims not. But where does
the thirty four percent just suddenly come from. This is
the cost plus accounting that goes on, and it's in power,
it's in rates, it's in insurance. And this is the
problem you're going to be facing next week with the
theb because yes, your incomes going up above inflation on average,

(53:05):
but your costs are going up as well. So all
the money that you're saving on your mortgage coming from
the bank, they keep talking about, that's going into your
medical insurance, or your rates or your power bill. I mean,
that's an astonishing amount of money. But lifting my policy
costs by thirty four percent sounds over the top. I've
been a customer for over twenty years. I'm not poor.
I just think I'm getting screwed. And the problem is,
once you get to a certain age, you're not swapping

(53:27):
companies because no one's going to take you on. And
I don't know what the ratio is for all the
people that you know. If you've had health insurance for
twenty years and you've never claimed, how much that then
off sets what you might pay in premium terms if,
for example, you had claimed. But I'll tell you what
those are big, big numbers, aren't they? Then I get
to the correspondence, so I got from Oscar. My name,

(53:50):
Mike is Oscar duffy Youth MP four, the Honorable MILSA Lee.
Over the last three days of the Youth Parliament. I'm
writing to express my concern about the reporting of thet
I'm sure you've seen headlines regarding censorship on the other side,
reporting the lack thereof. I wanted to offer a different perspective.
I believe this reporting is a disservice to our youth
and the really fruitful work that has been done. Impactful

(54:12):
speech is about serious issues like biodiversity credits, cost of living,
and youth mental health were given and remain unheard. We
delivered recommendations and groups across a series of topics to
ministers and high ranking industry officials in hopes of change
directed at positive outcomes for our youth. But yet again
there's been no reporting, and fortunately this has been overshadowed
by biased reporting and unfair representation of youth. It is

(54:35):
my belief that this is an unfortunate reflection of the
current state of politics in New Zealand and also our
country's culture as a whole. So I'm pleased that there
are people like that who have got the wherewithal to
understand what's going wrong with the country at the moment.
But it's disappointing that they have to come to that
conclusion because of course Oscar is right. But I hope

(54:57):
Oscar thank you for writing, by the way, and I
hope you at least enjoyed Are you three Days? Because
I think it's a brilliant idea and the more young
people that are interested in don't have to be into politics,
but what's actually going on at the country. If you're
fully engaged as a young person, then there's hope for
us all. Turn away from eight.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
The Mike Hosking Breakfast with the land Rover Discovery News Talks, that'd.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Be just remember if I remember when I talked to Murray.
Tasmania is having an election campaign at the moment, and
part of their election campaign they're promising state funded insurance
because it's a massive issue in Australia now. But we'll
do that later. Eight minutes away from one of the
country's most iconic hotels is up for sale. The one
hundred and sixty four year old Kadrona hotel built in
eighteen sixty three award winning restaurant year Round be a garden,

(55:38):
seventeen hotel rooms. What's not to want a Kate Thornton
is the co owner and as well as cad morning.

Speaker 24 (55:45):
Good morning, how are you well?

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Thank you? The decision to sell juist or not?

Speaker 11 (55:51):
No?

Speaker 24 (55:52):
Well, yes, very arduous. We don't want to sell, but
it's time to sell.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Is it based on what you want to go and
do other things?

Speaker 24 (56:00):
I want to go do other things, spend time with
my young kids, see the world and just pubs take
up a lot of your life and time energy, but
they're definitely hugely rewarding.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
What would you say about your time?

Speaker 11 (56:11):
Would you?

Speaker 2 (56:11):
How long is it? How long you've been at least
a decade?

Speaker 24 (56:13):
Isn't it twelve years? It's my thirteenth winter?

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Wow, and your time there? How would you encapsulate it?

Speaker 24 (56:21):
It's defined my life, no way, So it's just it's
completely defined my life. Owning an icon is hugely rewarding.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
So is it the icon you've enjoyed or is it
just a hotel? And you could do it somewhere else
if it wasn't an icon, I don't know.

Speaker 24 (56:41):
If I could do it somewhere else. It's definitely definitely
the icon and what it's brought to our life. And
just the Cadroona Valley's pretty special too, And so I
think just everything about the pub that makes it specials
what's made it special for me?

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Is it a going concern?

Speaker 24 (56:56):
Yeah, freehold going concern, the whole lock stock.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
And barrel and staff. Do you have trouble?

Speaker 24 (57:03):
No during COVID years, post COVID years, but no. The hotel,
I think it's same. It's at Lewis Star. So it's
you just got to make sure you pick the right
ones out of the extents.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
And what about the clientele Are they all locals or
tourists or a mix of?

Speaker 21 (57:18):
Oh?

Speaker 24 (57:19):
Max huge makes small fwenty fifty locals in the Codrona Valley,
but queen certain we're a massive local nation of Queenstown
and warn people and internationals. It's famous in our time
with social media, it's famous worldwide.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
How are you trend seasonal now? In the sense it does?

Speaker 11 (57:37):
It?

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Does it? So there isn't a season in Queenstown anymore,
not really no.

Speaker 24 (57:42):
I mean when we bought it, you know, twenty thirteen,
winter was it bigger season with great summers. Now summers
bigger than winter. The shoulder periods are really small now,
which I thoroughly enjoy.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
Okay. And the accommodation what part does that play as
opposed to the beer garden, as opposed to the Foodcommodation.

Speaker 24 (58:00):
Is a huge part of the business. Staying here, you know,
everyone loves staying here and that feeds your bar and
in your restaurant. But you know, we have an on
site retail store.

Speaker 11 (58:11):
You know, it all just works.

Speaker 24 (58:12):
It all just works hand in hand there smoothly.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
And really well, how are you selling it? Are you
doing a tender or a box.

Speaker 24 (58:17):
Or a expressions of interest sale over six weeks period
and we're actually going to be selling it ourselves.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
Oh no way, good onion? What do you want for it?

Speaker 11 (58:28):
Decisions?

Speaker 24 (58:30):
We've decided we're not going to disclose that.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
Sorry, Okay, is it is it seven figures? How many sevens?

Speaker 11 (58:35):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (58:35):
Is it heading towards eight figures or is it closer
to just into sevens?

Speaker 11 (58:41):
We'll go as.

Speaker 24 (58:43):
Anything.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
To be honest, you want it, you want to have
you got into a so far genuine interest too early.

Speaker 24 (58:51):
They're always interested in the hotel. Throughout our ownership, there's.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Always been paid so you won't have trouble selling it.

Speaker 24 (58:57):
No, absolutely not, And there's been a massive amount of
interest from you Get and Winde and overseas already overnight.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
Does Does it need any work?

Speaker 24 (59:07):
It always needs work?

Speaker 2 (59:08):
No, no, no, But apart from they part part from
the ongoing does it. Yeah, you probably rewired the place.
You're not going to re roof the back.

Speaker 24 (59:16):
That was all done in two thousand and one when
it had a massive investment into it.

Speaker 16 (59:20):
Replumbed.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
Good on, absolutely fantastic. Will go well with it, and
I'm sure you will sell it. And good luck with
whether youre head on to Kate Thornton, who's the co
owner of the Kadrona Hotel. If you've never been there,
it's well worth it. I mean it's a sensational part
of the sensational part of the country, Tim and Katie.
But you Reckon's worth I was looking into one hotel
that was I know what that hotel was worth, but

(59:42):
this is a different I reckon it's worth six seven eight. Yeah,
you Reckon's worth four. Sam Reckons is worth four mind
you Sam Reckon that Amazon put robots in four years ago.
So I don't think Sam's good on real estate or
hotels or but you know anyway, News for you. No,

(01:00:02):
I don't don't take carry your racist I know what
she's gonna say. News for you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Next, setting the agenda and talking the big issues. The
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Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
Tog said, b.

Speaker 15 (01:00:19):
Sing you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
We'mber Jim Hickys. He's just texted. He goes, Mike, you
know we're near six seven or eight million for the CODRONA.
It's vintage bespoke, historical hospo, fireside and eld Fresco dining
in an el pine emphathy to like nowhere else globally.
No see I I is up against simply be busting high,
missing out, becaus bullish. On apparently was valued at four

(01:00:47):
million in twenty ten. You can see I'm doing the
I'm doing the duty. I'm doing the d D. At
the moment, this is.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
Lord as, this.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Is apparently very tate. It serves in part as a
catalyst for the raw emotion she explores. It's got something
new with the breakup. Bold contrast between who she once
was and who she is become. Produced by Jimmy Stack.
That name rings a bell. We've got eleven tracks and

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we got almost thirty five minutes worth of music.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
A week in review with two degrees bringing smart business
solutions to the table.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Eight minutes past eight A, Kate Hawks beaks with us
along with Tim Wilson. Good morning to you both, goodness
the morning, Good morning. You've been to the card droner?

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
Tim, Now I haven't been to the card drooner, but
it sounds like you want to buy a hotel from
what I'm hearing. Kate, are you into that?

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Welcome to my life, Welcome to my Have you been
to the card droner? Katie?

Speaker 25 (01:01:57):
No, I have not. I don't think I have.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
Well you could, Katie, you could own it. You just
play along with Mike. He'sn are you what are you?
What are you bidding you? Six seven?

Speaker 25 (01:02:09):
I think he's a bit out on his price by
the sounds of.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
You know, that's only according to Jim Picky. I mean
twenty million all days is Ricky twenty million? So if
Ricky's in at twenty you know, I mean, come on,
is Ricky an idiot? Where is Ricky million? What does
Ricky know his hotels?

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
No? Thanks, I love the clearing of the throats.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
That's the numbers.

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
I'm done.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
You gotta do the numbers. How many people are they
got to stay? So they've got seventeen rooms, what are
you running the room out at? Then you've got how
many bee is you selling a day? And how often?
And is it worth having a beer garden in the
middle of winter? I mean, how many beers are selling
to be a garden in the middle of winter.

Speaker 11 (01:02:51):
No.

Speaker 26 (01:02:51):
I just make a really obvious point here, And we
did this when you tried to buy the Meticana pub.
Pointers people who own pubs and hotels need to be hospitable.
They need to be welcoming. They enjoy people, and we
decided very early on. But if the owner generally is
terrified of people and doesn't like to be seen in public,
that's not going to work.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
I could, I reckon, I could be one of those
one of those guys.

Speaker 25 (01:03:19):
To employ the whole family and have the family fronting
it for him, all the kids of everybody behind the bar,
have me.

Speaker 26 (01:03:25):
Out the front, and he would just be at the top,
just probably counting up the money and not talking to
anyone and sacking staff who came in.

Speaker 25 (01:03:32):
With you know, like maybe a nose piercing or something.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
He'd let him go.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
I reckon all I want to be. I want to
be the guy to go, oh, you know old Hostco.
You know, once you get to know him, he's not
that bad. That's the sort of thing you're aiming for,
isn't it.

Speaker 25 (01:03:46):
Is that what you're aiming for.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
That's what I'm aiming for.

Speaker 8 (01:03:48):
Course.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
I think that's true.

Speaker 11 (01:03:50):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
Nothing wrong, nothing wrong with that. No, it's just it's
just when he said the reno was done in two
thousand and one, that immediately rang alarm bells for me
because that's that's twenty three, twenty four years ago. Oh yeah,
and that's got. That's got. What about the wiring, Yeah,
you could probably do the wiring, but I'll tell you what,
if you're going to do the wiring, you may as
well do the gas and the roof and the spouting
and probably do the kitchen at the same time. So

(01:04:14):
it's good.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
I loved it. I loved it when he said when
he said what's it been like, and he said, it's
to find my life.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Yeah, boss, that that was a politician's answer is to
find my life. I mean, he's probably running.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
For the whole I thought that I thought he was.
I thought he was conveying something. You do you think
that me and Ricky are going to cobble together?

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
We'll see it at the auction, It says, Hosking Towers
bezel faulty, very good, very bazel faulty. It's so sure.

Speaker 23 (01:04:42):
Do you know?

Speaker 26 (01:04:42):
We're in a shop speaking of Mike just being one
of those people that people think are so easy to
get to know and love. We were in a shop
the other day and there's a very earnest, well meaning,
well dressed, lovely man who was selling Mike something said
how would you like to pay?

Speaker 25 (01:04:55):
And Mike looks and dead in the eye and goes crypto.

Speaker 26 (01:05:00):
It is just silence, and I have to fill that awkward.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
So funny. He always makes the jokes. You like the jokes,
don't you make I'm.

Speaker 26 (01:05:13):
Just staring at us, and I'm like.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
I thought it was fine. And also I thought he
was young enough to go, hh, yeah you're cal bro
something like that, but he didn't. Anyway, Now, don't try
and be young.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
It's not a business model or the future for you, mate, No,
it's not, Katie. Have you heard of High Rocks High Rocks?

Speaker 10 (01:05:37):
Yes?

Speaker 26 (01:05:38):
Is this the thing where you do all those different
fitness events?

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Well done, congratulations, there's a big one on this weekend
in Sydney. It's over three days. I'll run you through
what they actually do, but this term you'll be interested
in this. Katie's turned into an elite athlete, if not
a professional athlete and so not.

Speaker 25 (01:05:58):
Hi Rocks is serious people trained the that's a serious affair.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
It's the most amazing thing. I'll come back after the
break and tell you exactly what they do do it's
going off and this is the thing the article I
read is about do you do it basically to get fit,
will be healthy or do you do it so you
can reach your limits basically kill yourself in the process.
But what I want to know from you, Kadie, after
your week's worth of exercise and specialist coaching in the

(01:06:24):
years pickle or paddle?

Speaker 25 (01:06:28):
What do you want me to say that now or
after the break? I'm not sure what we're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
No, no, I'm running the show. I'll tell you when I'm
going to the break. You're just the guest.

Speaker 25 (01:06:37):
I thought we were going to the break.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
Okay, we're going to the break now, because that just
wastes a lot of time. More shortly, thirteen past.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered
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Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
It be news Talks There, sixteen past eight.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
The Week in Review with two degrees fighting for fear
for Kiwi business.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
Come on, Crypto, that's just funny.

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
You can't teach yourself on the show.

Speaker 10 (01:07:05):
All right.

Speaker 25 (01:07:07):
It's the dead pan dry delivery.

Speaker 26 (01:07:08):
You put the kids, partners and boyfriends and stuff, and
it's really embarrassing. It's the dead pan dry delivery where
they have to second gets themselves and go is he serious?

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
Favorite? My favorite? What's that is when when the boyfriend
comes around, I look at him and I go, oh,
you're still together? Then that's good. We had By the way,
we have the current were a lovelier person. You know,
he's the old JJ. He's delightful. We have the current
High Rocks female Will Champ from New Zealand. So do

(01:07:38):
you go so anyway, Katie, Pickle or paddle.

Speaker 25 (01:07:41):
Well, here's the thing. I've only played pickle. I haven't
played paddle.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
Yet what about squash?

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
Wait, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Isn't a pickle something you eat?

Speaker 11 (01:07:48):
No?

Speaker 10 (01:07:48):
It is?

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
Do you not know about pickle? Pickleball?

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
It's huge?

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
So paddle Just to explain super simply, paddle is like
basically squash, except outdoors on a chase court with walls around.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
Its better tennis.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
Yes, exact pass tennis. Okay, yep, fair enough, the old
money we call it. We call it paddleton. And pickle
is a small court, small court with little bats, big
sized sort of table tennis bats where you hit a
ball with holes in it.

Speaker 11 (01:08:17):
Yeah, funny.

Speaker 25 (01:08:18):
Pickle is more funket.

Speaker 26 (01:08:20):
Squash is by father, superior game, and as it turns out,
I'm quite good at it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
Sure you want squash.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
Squash is a great gats that's.

Speaker 26 (01:08:29):
It's really intense workout, Like you finish and you feel
like absolutely used every muscle in your body and you're exhausted,
and so that's cool, but it's really intense.

Speaker 25 (01:08:37):
Pickle is just so much fun. It's like running around.
It's really social. Usually you played in doubles.

Speaker 26 (01:08:41):
I did some coaching, just one on one with my son,
and I loved it. And so now I want to
start a pickleball league. My son said, I might be
running before I walk, but I'm just so it's such
a cool social game.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
Yeah, I reckon, I reckon. It's an industry and it's
taking off because America's got fascinated with and they've got
leagues and television deals. Pickle I think is more a
recreational pursuit, and so I don't think it has necessarily
the same sort of business upside and television appeal. But
it looks like a lot of fun. High Rocks. You're
ready for this, Tim, as a person who does Are

(01:09:15):
you still doing your push ups?

Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
By the way, well what one hand break?

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
That's right? You still you're still on ac are you? Tim?

Speaker 11 (01:09:25):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:09:26):
I'm not actually only for a week? Yeah, yep, No,
I didn't even didn't even sign up.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
Good graduation. I think more of you. Now here's high rocks.
Here's what you do. You're ready for this? You do
and this is non stop. This is what you're doing.
One k run nothing, one k ski erg, one k run,
fifty meter sled push, one k run, fifty meter slid pull,

(01:09:56):
one k run, eighty meter burpie broad jumps, one k run,
one k roll, one k run two hundred meters farmers
carry one. That's what I do with you on the weekend. Caddie,
you got, you've got high rocks.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
I got I got something better than that high roll.
Do you want to know what high rollers?

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
I'm not finished. One k run all right, keeping me
the sand bag lunches, one run one hundred walls.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
Getting tedious.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
I mean that's incredible.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
Eat a bag of chips. One k runs. Okay, here's
what high rollers. School holiday hack for parents. Now obviously
I'm crippled. I'm crippled. But we took the boys up
one tree Hill. I went half the way up. Stay
with otto.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
Rachel took all the boys.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
You didn't even get this is up the side. This
is up the side of it. Not the sort of
pedestrians you know, climbing over.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
Even walk up to one tree hill.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
Rachel took the boys. Hey, I went off, acc shut
up all right. Rachael took the boys up to the
top at night. So it's like nine o'clock at night,
and with with with the mate William who's having a sleepover,
and the boys rolled down the side of one Tree
Hill and there could not be in the pitch black,

(01:11:16):
getting muddy, dirty shrieking with laughter. One of the actually
William said, this is what it feels like to be
a kid, and that's what it's all about.

Speaker 9 (01:11:24):
It.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
You can keep your high rocks.

Speaker 3 (01:11:26):
We'll take high.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Rolls all down the hill. There's nothing wrong with that,
all down the health. Can I just apologize to end
the segment. What I did, unfortunately, Cadie, is I failed
to take your advice. What I just read out on
there was a list, the high Rocks list, and earlier
on she advised me, Tim if you missed that, no
more top ten lists on this program because so many.

Speaker 25 (01:11:46):
Yeah, it's but it's boring, not so many and not
not a commentary on each one. Seven. Well, what I
think of seven is it's interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
It's like not really, do you any other issues with
this game? Any problems you'd like to fix? Just while
we're around about the.

Speaker 25 (01:12:02):
Points award winning and so if it's not broke, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
Senate, the senators in US have their own pickleball league. Cuddie,
Oh cool. Let me just paint you the picture. So
the pickleball court on the internal part, you know, the
part nearest the net where the line is, so the
first line back from the net. Yeah they've got stars.
Wait for the Senate and then the rest of the
court's plane. But you they're playing doubles and they look

(01:12:28):
like they're having a good time.

Speaker 26 (01:12:29):
They're actually putting a lot of pickleball courts into rest
homes because there are it's a really really good longevity
marker and producing mortality, all risk mortality.

Speaker 25 (01:12:38):
All the research supports that racket sports in general, but
it's so good for people.

Speaker 26 (01:12:42):
One it's social, Two it's not that taxing, and three
it's just a really good little run around.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
So what they should also do in rest homes is
see if they want to roll down the hill.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
Yeah, high roll. That's a longevity marker.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
And if you don't make it, twit too.

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from Vietnam and pickle all over the place in the
city seems like a corporate game. There you go, Mike
tel Kadie paddles. Much better free game available at the
Glendalwie Paddle Indoor. I don't think you're going to turn it.
She's obsessed with the pickle at the mine. It has
to be an either or a situation.

Speaker 9 (01:14:25):
Okay both.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
Yeah, a different skill, she claims, different skills. She's been
coached this week on squash pickle and will go to paddle.
Completely different skill, she claims. On everything. She also claimed
you needed new shoes for each of the sports, and
they were different in terms of the structure of the
sole of the shoe and stuff like. This's a bit
of that going on as well.

Speaker 20 (01:14:42):
My kids used to play a game, what do they
call it?

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
All bat.

Speaker 20 (01:14:46):
It was kind of like softball, but each person who
stepped up had to use a different kind of a
Bat's somebody with a softball bat, somewhere with a cricket bat.
Somebody with a tennis racket.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
That's not a bat. Well, yeah it's a racket.

Speaker 20 (01:15:00):
It wasn't called that, but maybe to get the.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
Idea because there are only two bats.

Speaker 20 (01:15:03):
I thought always thought that was quite cool.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
That's a cool guy. Our news began a couple of
moments in Murray Eld's.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
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Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
Mike tell Katie to look at badminton. I used to
play squash. Now over seventy play local badminton, which is
one of the fastest growing sports in the company in
the country. She doesn't need another sport. Yesterday she started
with the workout, went to how did it Go, went
to a wood, did a workout, went and did peckle,
went and did hot yoga, then had a meeting with

(01:15:41):
her trainer, followed by a message.

Speaker 20 (01:15:44):
She's really going out of her way to avoid spending
any time a year. That sounds That's what it sounds
like to me.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
I thought that quietly to myself, but I didn't want
to say it out loud. Twenty three minutes away from.

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Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
Murray, how are.

Speaker 11 (01:16:02):
You pretty well? Thanks, Michael, nowhere near as fit as
your wife. And there we go, There we go.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
July nine see what I'm reading here is that it
may or may not be a deadline. But you guys
have not got see Britain pass this week and they've
got a special deal for their cars. They don't know
about steel, which I think where you're is the same
boat that you're in, isn't it you? You'd've done them,
We're you're ate with Trump?

Speaker 11 (01:16:26):
No one knows. No one knows that. Or Penny Wong,
the Foreign Minister, was there in Washington on Tuesday this week,
and of course next Tuesday next week is when the
tariff the tariffs are going to be imposed worldwide by
the Trump administration. Well if she, if she was given

(01:16:46):
any sort of hints about which way the Trump administration
might go, she certainly wasn't sharing them with the Australian media.
It was a quad Foreign ministers meeting and there's lots
on the table. I mean the tariffs, yes, But Australia,
as they keep stressing from Canberra, Australia enjoys a trade
surpas with America. I mean it's not as though you know,

(01:17:07):
and beef produces here for example, there saying bugger off,
we don't want American beef. But it hasn't been sourced.
We don't know every single step of the way where
that animal, where that carcass has come from. That's the
biosecurity that Australia depends on for alls agricultural stuff. So
the tariffs arrive next week, what's it going to look
like for Australia. We simply do not know. But what

(01:17:28):
Wong was able, but Penny Wong was able to stress
in Washington because the other thing that Australia is worried about, Mike,
as you know, is the review of the ORCT packed
the deal to sell nuclear powered submarines to Australia, and
that is coming up as well. The end of the
thirty day review can't be too far away. I'm not
sure exactly how many days. But what Penny one was

(01:17:50):
apparently promised is well not even promise. Just pointed out
to the administration. Australia's got lots and lots of things
that Australia can offer the United States military, the Navy,
a secure base over in w Way to you know,
service the nuclear powered submarines. We don't have to own any.

(01:18:12):
We can't crew the one we've got. Now with the hell,
we're going to find the crew from. Plus, we've got
things like the Port of Darwin, where US marines have
been coming in and out for many, many years. Australian
can offer a lot of in kind stuff for Orcus.
I mean, the best thing, from my point of view,
would be for the US to say, well, you know what,
we don't want to sell you any submarines. We can
go and buy stuff we actually need. And Alban easy

(01:18:32):
at this in public is refusing to bow to Donald
Trump's demands to lift defense spend three and a half
percent of GDP.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
He should tell Donald I'll pay five if you give
me a meeting that it'd solve a problem, would you
just quickly. We've had a little bit of weather at
the top of the south in the Nelson region. You
had a big hidden fact that it's the same weather
system that hit you in New South Wales earlier on
in the week. When I hear the guy in TASMANI
going oh, we're going to run a state funded insurance system.
Is he making that up because he's on a campaign

(01:19:02):
trail or is that the future of insurance in Australia.
That's the sort of thing you're going to have to
look at well.

Speaker 11 (01:19:07):
I wouldn't have thought so. I mean, he is you know,
it's the premier. You're looking to have an election I
think this month. I think the elections this month down
in Tasmania. And you know, the state owned company would
offer home it would offer contents, small business insurance, regional insurance,
you know, community insurance and so on. It smells to

(01:19:30):
me like an election promise. You know, you'll just throw
that out there like a chum and the water if
you're out fishing. I mean, the fact of the matter is,
what the hell are government's doing offering insurance anyway? Isn't
that a private secretor job, particularly for a liberal? You
know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
Any indicator did they poll? Is there any? I mean,
just just to remind people, I know, when no one's
interested in the Tasmanian election apart from me, and I
doubt even I'm more interested in the most Tasmanians. But
it was a tight run thing. Is it going to
shift towards labor because labor's gone federally successful since the
first election. We just don't know.

Speaker 11 (01:20:01):
Look, that's very it's a good question, and I don't
know either. I mean, traditionally, what's happened over If you've
had a liberal federal government, you've tended to have states
that go labor like that. There's a balance, there's sort
of an organic balance. It's been achieved over the years.
But you know, we've got Tasmania liberal. You've got that
Liberal Nationals kind of confection up in Queensland. A lot

(01:20:24):
of conservatives say it's a labor light anyway, and the
rest of the country's labor. So it's impossible to tell
from this distance about which way Tasmania is going to go.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
I was reminded the very good article in the Sydney
Morning here all this morning about Keating, And what I
forgot about Keating is how clever he was with words
and the articles about Melbourne and Sydney and the gap
between Melbourne and Sydney culturally and all that sort of stuff.
And he said famously, he said, he said, if you're
not living in Sydney, you're just camping out. A brilliant one.

Speaker 11 (01:20:58):
I mean, I remember vividly he leaned across the dispatch
box when John Houston, this is thirty years ago, John
Houston was the Liberal leader, and he looked across the
dispatch box leaned to the microphone and said, mate, I'm
going to do you slowly. Oh okay.

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
See they're not as good as that anymore, are they?

Speaker 11 (01:21:17):
Well, a bit more timid, I think. And as you say,
Keating was the master of the one liner. He was
here streets in front the.

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
Healthy in days. The longer this goes in, I can't
even remember the name of the town. What's it called
in Victoria? Melwell, Melroue, more well, more well, what are
you doing?

Speaker 10 (01:21:37):
More well?

Speaker 11 (01:21:38):
Well, you sit around, you wait for the mushroom mamma
to get the verdict. And that's what's happening. I mean today,
day four. The jury went out for its first full
day on Tuesday. And what do they say, Like, the.

Speaker 13 (01:21:50):
Longer the jury's out, the better it looks for the accused.
I reckon, I reckon, there's I reckon. I think she
was going to get off but wow, yeah no. But
the longer the goes you're write. But I think there'll
be some holdouts. I reckon they get if it goes
to the weekend. I reckon, they got real trouble because
I guarantee you within the twelve there's at least a
three or four who are dead, sick, convinced she's guilty.

Speaker 11 (01:22:13):
Oh for sure, And for me personally, again, I'm not
in the court room, but from this distance following the matter,
I thought the jury would have been in and out.
Yeah guilty, see you later. But you know it's going
to be unanimous as well. Twelve good men and women. True,
So you know, let's just have to wait and see.
But I mean, did she kill them deliberately? She says no,

(01:22:33):
I didn't. It was a tragic accident. So we just
have to wait and soon.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
Well where in Italy are you going?

Speaker 11 (01:22:41):
The bootheel? Pulia is beautiful, Yeah, gorgeous. Martina franca is
the place we're going to be putting down the anchor
for a week or two. A big, big wedding we're
being invited to.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
So when you say big wedding, how big is the
biggest Jeff Bezos is could you have bandaged and just
dubtailed into the two?

Speaker 10 (01:23:02):
No?

Speaker 11 (01:23:03):
Because the party I'm going with a bit. I want
to go to Venice. It's just so tire he fair.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
Is it a big winning though? Asn't big as one
hundreds or fifty or no?

Speaker 11 (01:23:12):
No, no, not big. It's about about forty to fifty.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
I think, next question, what what do you wear? Because
you're talking thirty eight degrees.

Speaker 11 (01:23:23):
Well, I took your advice and I got the linen.
I've got the linen and had it dry cleaned and
it looks very smart, nice and thanks for that that
lovely comma bund you sent me. I'm not going to
wear it, but.

Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
And you look very nice and very few people can
do it, Murray, but you look good in pale lemon,
pale lemon linen. It's right. Did you see Rod Stewart
the other day at there so Flas I love him?

Speaker 11 (01:23:45):
He looked he looked like bloody Robin Hood on steroids.
It was really strange.

Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
Yeah, No, he's good. You have a good time. See
you a couple of murlds. He's if you didn't reference that.
He's off to Wittaly for a couple of weeks and
for a wedding. Not his just some mate forty five The.

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
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Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
At B twelve minutes away from nine. Fun fact, I
was reading Andrew John's piece in the Australian Media our
League Legend of course, and what I didn't know was this,
You can't win the Premiership Warriors NRL from outside the
top four. Of the one hundred and seventeen title winners
since nineteen oh eight, one hundred and fifteen of them

(01:24:29):
have done so after finishing the top four fifteen out
of one seventeen. There are two exceptions. You might argue
the modern day game has changed this because the two
exceptions are in the modern gay game. Can it be
one from sixth in nineteen ninety five Brisbane one from
fifth in nineteen ninety three. So we are the top four.
We've got to buy this weekend. So if you take
the two points from the buyer this weekend, we are

(01:24:50):
in fact a third equal. So we're very comfortably And
not only that, but there's a gap, as he points
out between fourth and the rest of the field. History,
he says, he's shown it's just too hard to keep
that winning run going when you're up against elite teams
in must win finals. Now he deals with the Warriors.
They've had a great resurgence to sit forth and a

(01:25:10):
four competition points clear of the Broncos and fifth. So
there's a nice gap between the top four and the
rest of the field. They've got a great run home
as well, where they played just one Top four side Canterbury.
So that's the Bulldogs in early August. That's going to
be that's at home too, that's going to be a blockbuster.
In one top eight rival the Dolphins already played. The
Dolphins beat them, no particular problem. I don't think we
beat them by much. It was one of those games.

(01:25:32):
It was way in Queensland. I remember watching it and
I was thinking we should have done a better bit
of wins a win anyway. Then he concludes this, but
to lose Luke Metcalf on top of Mitch Barnett is
just too much. Yes, and I think they will struggle
to keep Brisbane at bay. I think for Philly obvious reasons,

(01:25:56):
he's wrong, and I hope I'm right and wrong. But
he makes a salient point.

Speaker 20 (01:26:04):
And there's two things that have given me a hitache
this morning. The woman who was talking about why I
should buy a ten thousand dollar coat so other people
can buy cheaper things, right, didn't like that that he
had just span spun around around around around second thing,
all that, all those ramifications and implications.

Speaker 2 (01:26:26):
Well, it's just you need to be where we are
to win.

Speaker 20 (01:26:28):
I didn't realize that Andrew Johns was a quantum physicist
in his spare time.

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
But he knows what he's talking about. You've got to
give him some wait for you know, some experience. Been there,
done that. But I remain hopeful, forever hopeful. Nine minutes
away from now.

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
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Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
Michael finished Top four Warriors may drop a couple of games.
Broncos will drop at least one. They're not the Broncos
of old. Well you say that, but and I quoted
an article from Foxtel the other day that said exactly
that they're not the Broncos of old and they're up
and down. But what I all the other weekend when
we went to see the Broncos, they were the Broncos
of right here, right now. Thrash us and kick us
up the ass, is what they were. We weren't even

(01:27:08):
in the contest as regards Silverstone. This weekend. A fine
Friday as in their Friday, our Saturday morning, late Friday
night early Saurday morning for practice. Not as hot as
you think this all this heat wave stuff they're going
on about in Britain and all that. It's not true.
At least at Silverstone they're looking at maybe twenty twenty
one degrees. But Sunday on practice day, by the time

(01:27:28):
we get to Saturday and qualifying and p three, you're
looking at the possibility of showers, and the real possibility
of showers. Qualifying in showers is always interesting because anything
could happen. And Hamilton will want showers because he's good
in the rain, and he doesn't got a case. He
hasn't got a car that goes fast enough, so he'll
hope for rain. But then on race day Monday, our time, Sunday,

(01:27:49):
their time are showers of four cast sixty percent chants
of rain, so that could make it space there five
minutes away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:27:57):
Trending now humor as well, your home of winter essentials.

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
God, you remember the movie Running Man. They're remaking that
because they've had we keep saying they've run out of
old new ideas. So that came out in eighty seven.
It was about the US, and twenty eighteen the country
watched a television show of convicted criminals trying to run
away from professional killers too when their freedom.

Speaker 11 (01:28:18):
Ben Richards thirty five, married, one child in medical crisis.

Speaker 2 (01:28:25):
We need money for a doctor.

Speaker 23 (01:28:26):
Now, Ben, watch you up.

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
I think it's the biggest show in the country.

Speaker 10 (01:28:35):
Welcome to the Running Man.

Speaker 3 (01:28:38):
People on these games never come back.

Speaker 11 (01:28:40):
I'm trying to.

Speaker 10 (01:28:41):
Give myself killed. So just last twice.

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
Right, there is why you can win this game. The
rules are simple, survive thirty days.

Speaker 11 (01:28:51):
The entire nation husingly down. We'll get your family out
of slungicide for good. I'm still here.

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
Arnold Schwarzenegger has been replaced by Glenn Powell. You'll be
sitting in the theater. Go He's no Schwartzenegger, is he?
Josh Brolin's and there he's always quite good. Michael Sarah
do I know hit Michael Sira? I don't know that
I know Michael Sira. Anyway, it's in Cinema's November seventh.
We were looking. We discovered Heretic on Amazon the other
night or Neon can't remember one of the two anyway,

(01:29:31):
That was the one with Hugh Grant where he's the
guy who takes the girls. And then we got into
a discussion of when do we watch it because we
didn't want to watch it when it was dark because
we'd be scared. So then we said, well, we'll watch
it during the day. And I said, I don't like
watching movies during the day because I want to be
outside doing stuff. And so she said, well, I could

(01:29:51):
watch it during the day. And I said, but I
want to watch it with you. And she goes, well,
when do you want to watch it with me? And
I said maybe later on today, and she goes, but
it will be dark, and we don't watch movies in
the dark. And we went run around around.

Speaker 20 (01:30:00):
And then she went to squash.

Speaker 2 (01:30:02):
Then she went to Hot yogat Happy Days.

Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
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