David Seymour: Regulation Minister on the Regulatory Standards Bill passing its third reading

The Regulation Minister says a small number of groups have hijacked the public submission process.

ACT's Regulatory Standards Bill has passed its third reading at Parliament.

The policy, which provides principles for lawmaking, received 156-thousand public submissions – 98% of those opposed.

David Seymour told Mike Hosking there have been more select committee submissions in the past two years than in the history of Parliament.

He says organisations like Greenpeace spread mistruths and automate submissions for people.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
So among other laws that passed this week, that much
anksted about regulatory standards bill got through two one hundred
and fifty six thousand public submissions. Ninety eight percent of
them were opposing it. In simple terms, it allows better
law making by reducing red tape and assessing legislation against
its principles of responsible regulation. David Seymour as of course,
man who drove it through in the Minister River Regulation.
It's good morning, is with us? Is this a personal

(00:22):
winp Mike, good morning morning. Is this a personal win?

Speaker 2 (00:27):
It's actually a whole lot of people. This has been
going on since the early two thousands, when the first
version of this was drafted. So I'm very proud to
have got it over the line. But it's a little
bit like end of life choice that actually started years
before I got anywhere near Parliament. I was just sort
of the winger that picked it up at the end
and put it over the line.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
The ninety eight point seven percent of public submissions have
public submissions to a degree broader question been hijacked. There's
just the same old same olds turning up and moaning, yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
We'll put it this way. I was told the other
day that there's been more submissions to select committees in
the last two years than in the entire history of
Parliament before that, and this is being driven by If
you're Greenpeace, you set up a website, it has a
series of false statements, you put in a tick box exercise,

(01:20):
and then it formulates a submission for you. But of
course as part of the process, green Peace ends up
with your email address, which is their real objective. And
then of course people say there's all their submissions against it. Well,
the truth is that the people making the submission sadly,
and I mean them no disrespect, but they start off
uninformed about the Regulatory Standards Bill and by the time

(01:42):
they go through that process or tweetoo to TDTU or whatever,
they're actually misinformed.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
The Labor Party will flip it. Are you disappointed to
the extent that you haven't been able to reach out
to make this bigger than in other words, it's here today,
gone tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Well, and that that's of course if the Labor Party.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, I get all that, but you know you haven't
got broad base aboard on it.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yes, and no, I mean we have tried, but if
you look at it, you know David Parker one of
the more thoughtful guys I think would have been open
to it. Duncan wear ballots and rants and rays, but
he's not actually standing for christ Duke Central again, so frankly,
he's shooting blanks. And then Elena Williams stood up in
the debate last night, sung a song for the first

(02:28):
two minutes, then cried, then talk about our ancestors, and
then made some incoherent points about the legislation that bore
no resemblance to it. So, you know, I am sad
that we don't have cross party support, but in those circumstances,
it is challenging to actually get a real conversation with
these people. That worries me more than anything. Our goal

(02:50):
is to win next year, betted and make it the
norm that if a politician wants to make a law
and it's going to put costs on people's time and
money and it's gonna, you know, devalue your property like
the earthquake laws did or whatever, then you've at least
got to be open and have the decent set and
tell people that's what the cost will be. That, just
like the Fiscal Responsibility Act and the Reserve Bank Act,

(03:13):
if it changes our culture over time will be a wealthier,
more respectful, more civilized country.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
You have a good weekend, Appreciate it, Dobson, you as
the Minister of Regulation Associate Minister of Education.

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