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Matthew Tukaki: M?ori Council executive dismisses 'ridiculous' hytseria over He Puapua - The Mike Hosking Breakfast

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He Puapua is being described as nothing more than a discussion document.
The academic report suggests a separate M?ori parliament, along with different health and justice systems.
The National Party is accusing the Government of trying to create two systems by stealth.
That's being dismissed the Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern who says it hasn't even been discussed by Cabinet.
M?ori Council executive director Matthew Tukaki told Mike Hosking he sits at the heart of the Te Ao M?ori world, but hasn't had a discussion about segregated institutions.
"Nobody is claiming that all of a sudden we are going to see Maori hospitals built right next door to non-M?ori hospitals, that's absolutely ridiculous."
However, while he says there are unlikely to be separate systems for M?ori, Tukaki says we need to debate these issues out in the open.
“But at the end of the day, I do get a little bit turned off by the tone of the debate descending into cat-calling, dog-whistling, whatever you want to call it, because actually I think we are better than that.”
He Puapua is the result of a working group put together to see how New Zealand could meet its commitments under the UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples.
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Matthew Tukaki: M?ori Council executive dismisses 'ridiculous' hytseria over He Puapua - The Mike Hosking Breakfast