Jordan Small: NZUS Council executive director says US visit is still valuable, even if White House visit doesn't happen - The Mike Hosking Breakfast

The Prime Minister leaves this evening on a trade trip to the United States.  
Jacinda Ardern will travel to multiple cities, meet with politicians and tech executives and appear on the Late Show with Stephen Colbert. 
She'll also deliver the Harvard commencement speech. 
NZUS Council executive director Jordan Small says hopefully a White House visit can happen.  
But he says even if that doesn't happen this time, meeting face-to-face with other high level political figures is valuable. 
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