October 29, 2024 • 10 mins
Tonight on The Huddle, Trish Sherson from Sherson Willis PR and Josie Pagani from Child Fund joined in on a discussion about the following issues of the day - and more!
We've got a week to go until Election Day in the US - what do we think at this point? Between Trump and Harris, who's going to win?
Labour's Ginny Andersen raised a few eyebrows after re-sharing a meme poking fun at King Charles over the weekend. What do we make of this? Is she a liability to Labour?
MBIE is proposing to cut back on services following a drop in mail volume? Is this the right move?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Huddle with New Zealand Southerby's International Realty, local and
global exposure.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Like no other whither. Have you got an update on
the Gang funeral? Actually got an interesting thing to tell
you about the Gang funeral.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Didn't realize.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
But my maid is the guy who my mate Fats
has died, and I'll tell you about that. He's the
guy the tongue he is for with us. Right now
on the huddle, we've got Tris Shurson Shirson, Willis pr
and Joe Spagani Child Fund CEO. Hello you two.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Hello, Hello Josie.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
What's your vibe on the US election? We had Jack
on before this is Jack Tame. I asked him who's
going to win? Jess, it was like pulling teeth. He
didn't want to say Trump's gonna win, but but he
kind of got there in the end.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
What do you think, Well, if you listen to someone
like Nate Silver, who's one of the most famous, well known,
respected polsters in America, he was asked exactly that question
gets asked all the time. He said, it's fifty to fifty.
Anyone who says they know anything more than that is
probably lying or making it up. But if you're asking
(00:53):
me what my what my gut instinct is, what the
vibe is, I'd say Trump's gonna win, so, you know
I But the big thing about that, so I do
think that Trump's got got an uptick in the last
week or so. But the thing I would say against
that is that whoever gets the turnout, whoever turns out
(01:14):
their vote, will win. It's so so close. And you know,
Elon Musk can offer people a million dollars every day
and so on, but he's got absolutely no experience of
the boring hard work of building a campaign where literally
I can tell you either I've done it many times.
On election day, you do about three sweeps of a street.
You get a few streets. Your job is to get
(01:36):
Missus Jones from number fifty six on Main Street to
the polling booth. You know exactly who your voters are
in that street.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
You don't bother with the one so foreign interference there
were you the very.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Foreign Yeah, Eketahuna and tay Happy. No, not that far.
But this is four elections. I've worked on it. But
you know that takes a lot. You don't just build
that in the last few weeks. You build it over
months and months and months with volunteers who will do
that work and whoever has that machine when and the
Dems have that to their advantage.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, Okay, what do you think, Trisha?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I think it is too close to call and that's
why no one is willing to pick it. You know,
there's a lot of talk about whether and like last
time Trump won, whether the polls are in fact under
underpicking him because they're not getting out to the right
the right voters. In terms of Josie's point, you know,
(02:33):
Carmena Harris has got a huge on the ground team.
They have had an app for their their daughter door canvases,
so they go into an area, they get off a bus,
they've got a app on their phones that tells them
exactly which door they need to knock on and they'll
be going back on election day because they are they
(02:54):
are actually offering people rides to the polls. What's been
interesting in the past few is to look at how
the campaign has turned. So Trump has been turning, as
one commentator said, to vulgarity and viral stunts. His languaging
is getting more and more sort of gross, and those
(03:14):
on his team and on the other side you have
got Kamela Harris turning out star Power with the likes
of Michelle Obama in recent days, really going hard on
women and reproductive rights. And you've also had Republican Liz
Cheney turning out for Harris in the past week, which
(03:36):
has been really interesting because that message has been to
Republicans who don't want to They don't want to vote
for Trump, but they don't want to admit that they
would vote for the Democrats. So you know, there's just
so much in play for the election.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
It's a fascinating What's really interesting is that I saw
some research that the attack ads that have gone out
against Trump, you know, he's a fascist, are that they're
really ineffective because his supporters already know that he's despicable
and he's not a nice guy. So they're rationalizing it
like like John Key has He's gone, look, I know
(04:11):
he's not a nice guy, but I like the tax cuts.
So the attack ads don't work. What but but it's
not the same for Kamala's. So if Trump's campaign doesn't
attack ad on Kamala, that works really well, and they
go out and say, oh, she's failed, she's weak, she's
dangerously liberal. That works quite well. The ads that work
the best for Kamala are Buddy, the working class guy
(04:33):
who's shown listening to Trump, going, you guys are rich
as hell. These are to you know, billionaires, I'm going
to give you a tax cut, and Buddy says, well,
I'm not rich as hell and I need a tax cut.
So anything that's targeting the working class on economy and
cost of living it works for the Democrats. But not
attacking Trump.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, that is a very good point actually that you've made. Right,
They're right, we'll take a break, come back sixteen away
from six.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
The Huddle with New Zealand Sotheby's International Realty Elevate the
marketing of your home on the Huddle.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
With Us Trishuson and Josephganny. Trisha, do we need to
take the socials off?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Ginny?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Well as as a starting point. I mean, anyone facing
into the wind for a photo is going to look
like a vacuum packed lamb chop, aren't they. I thought,
I thought that that was pretty pretty silly and unfair,
And in fact, when I saw it that there were
two things that stuck out to me. One is I thought, gee,
poor old King Charles. He looks pretty old and thin
(05:32):
on it, and considering that he's been battling cancer this year,
that's no surprise. And then the other thing that I
noticed in that photo lurking in the background of it, yep,
was a navel. Was a naval vessel. And I thought
it's sort of a you know, it's sort of almost
you know, a ghostly image. Considering what happened to our
(05:53):
mana we nui over there.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
What you're trying to say, Trish, is you didn't even
look at his crotch, did you?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
No? No, I did it.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
No, I didn't think. I did think that about I
truly thought that though about the suit when you're facing
into the wind and any you know, as a woman,
you'd never do that with your best frock on. But
also I do think, you know, one of the things
that people get caught out on so often was social
not actually posting themselves, but liking a dumb tweet or
(06:26):
or a dumb post or re sharing.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
It without thinking, Yeah, I sort of feel like Josie,
there should be you know, like everybody's got some rules.
Right the minute that I start drinking, I do not drive.
I don't have an argument because it'll just go badly.
You know, you've got to have I don't send messages
to people because it's a bad idea. And I feel
like politicians should have a rule. You can use the
social but don't like other people's stuff, no matter how
(06:49):
hilarious it is.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Yeah, and nothing good happens after midnight. So if you're
on Twitter x whatever it's called now and doing tweeting
and retweeting and liking, your being a bit daft. But
the interesting thing is Jenny Anderson's offense here is pretty
similar grade to that of Andrew Bailey, isn't it. And
yet you know, where are the calls for her resignation?
There aren't there. I do think the thing that gets
(07:13):
me about Jenny is not no. I think it's the
same level of nothingness. Really, I mean I don't I
think she's daft to have done that and she shouldn't
have done it, But I don't think it's you know,
it's a big issue. I think the bigger issue for
me about Jenny is when she was police minister. And
I think it's not just the you know, ill advised
(07:34):
comments on Mitchell as police minister that he'd killed people
and so on. It's not so much this and not
even this silly tweet. It's more do you remember back
in the ram raids last year? And I remember she
was police minister and she came out and said, no, no,
actually the statistics show that ramraids are continuing to trend
downwards and we're all feeling safer. And it was such
a jarring note from a police minister when everyone was going,
(07:57):
this is awful, and darianors we're having a problem. So
I think she's got bigger problems, and I think Labour
has bigger problems with her than simply her daft you know.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Rechai agree. It's weird that they haven't realized after about
seven years of her saying stupid stuff out loud, that
she's a liability. But maybe maybe they'll get there in
the end. Now, Trish, what are we going to do
about the mail situation? I'm very happy for New Zealand
Posts to literally never deliver another piece of mail to
my letter box and just shut the thing down. What
about you?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I am absolutely with you. I mean, I can't think
of the last time I got anything in the mail
that I actually wanted. Main things around here still are
real estate flyers. You still get the odd circular from
chemists particularly. You get a lot of those, and often
(08:46):
it is it's tickets or something that you.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Really don't want.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Everything else is online, and I think for New Zealand
Post it's one of those things where they probably need
to make a pretty deep cut and get ahead of
it rather than you know, constantly what feels like cutting
back on on service. And these days, you know, I
was thinking, while you're in the back of the day,
you loved getting a letter. But these days, even with
(09:10):
your older friends and relatives, you just jump on FaceTime
with them.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
And every time I see the mailbox full of stuff,
my heart sinks because it's either a bill, a traffic fine,
hospital test result, or direct marketing, none of which are welcome.
So I don't want any of it. But for some reason,
banks still send bank statements, but I know you can
select not to.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I don't get that nut.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Oh I'm still getting bank sas. But yeah, the point
is that is it obviously is fading out a bit
like checks, right, But but you do have to phase
it out over time because you do have people in
sort of rural communities like I remember as an aide charity,
we had people sending donations with checks when the checks
were being phased out. So you've got to kind of
you've got to move slowly with this stuff, I guess.
But yeah, nothing good comes in the mailbox these days.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Too, right, nothing good at all. Thanks guys, appreciate it.
Trisius and Hurson, Willis, Pianrejo, Spaguani, Child and CEO.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
For more from Hither Duplessy, Allen Drive, listen live to
news Talks it B from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
The Huddle with New Zealand Southerby's International Realty, local and
global exposure.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Like no other whither. Have you got an update on
the Gang funeral? Actually got an interesting thing to tell
you about the Gang funeral.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Didn't realize.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
But my maid is the guy who my mate Fats
has died, and I'll tell you about that. He's the
guy the tongue he is for with us. Right now
on the huddle, we've got Tris Shurson Shirson, Willis pr
and Joe Spagani Child Fund CEO. Hello you two.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Hello, Hello Josie.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
What's your vibe on the US election? We had Jack
on before this is Jack Tame. I asked him who's
going to win? Jess, it was like pulling teeth. He
didn't want to say Trump's gonna win, but but he
kind of got there in the end.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
What do you think, Well, if you listen to someone
like Nate Silver, who's one of the most famous, well known,
respected polsters in America, he was asked exactly that question
gets asked all the time. He said, it's fifty to fifty.
Anyone who says they know anything more than that is
probably lying or making it up. But if you're asking
(00:53):
me what my what my gut instinct is, what the
vibe is, I'd say Trump's gonna win, so, you know
I But the big thing about that, so I do
think that Trump's got got an uptick in the last
week or so. But the thing I would say against
that is that whoever gets the turnout, whoever turns out
(01:14):
their vote, will win. It's so so close. And you know,
Elon Musk can offer people a million dollars every day
and so on, but he's got absolutely no experience of
the boring hard work of building a campaign where literally
I can tell you either I've done it many times.
On election day, you do about three sweeps of a street.
You get a few streets. Your job is to get
(01:36):
Missus Jones from number fifty six on Main Street to
the polling booth. You know exactly who your voters are
in that street.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
You don't bother with the one so foreign interference there
were you the very.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Foreign Yeah, Eketahuna and tay Happy. No, not that far.
But this is four elections. I've worked on it. But
you know that takes a lot. You don't just build
that in the last few weeks. You build it over
months and months and months with volunteers who will do
that work and whoever has that machine when and the
Dems have that to their advantage.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, Okay, what do you think, Trisha?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I think it is too close to call and that's
why no one is willing to pick it. You know,
there's a lot of talk about whether and like last
time Trump won, whether the polls are in fact under
underpicking him because they're not getting out to the right
the right voters. In terms of Josie's point, you know,
(02:33):
Carmena Harris has got a huge on the ground team.
They have had an app for their their daughter door canvases,
so they go into an area, they get off a bus,
they've got a app on their phones that tells them
exactly which door they need to knock on and they'll
be going back on election day because they are they
(02:54):
are actually offering people rides to the polls. What's been
interesting in the past few is to look at how
the campaign has turned. So Trump has been turning, as
one commentator said, to vulgarity and viral stunts. His languaging
is getting more and more sort of gross, and those
(03:14):
on his team and on the other side you have
got Kamela Harris turning out star Power with the likes
of Michelle Obama in recent days, really going hard on
women and reproductive rights. And you've also had Republican Liz
Cheney turning out for Harris in the past week, which
(03:36):
has been really interesting because that message has been to
Republicans who don't want to They don't want to vote
for Trump, but they don't want to admit that they
would vote for the Democrats. So you know, there's just
so much in play for the election.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
It's a fascinating What's really interesting is that I saw
some research that the attack ads that have gone out
against Trump, you know, he's a fascist, are that they're
really ineffective because his supporters already know that he's despicable
and he's not a nice guy. So they're rationalizing it
like like John Key has He's gone, look, I know
(04:11):
he's not a nice guy, but I like the tax cuts.
So the attack ads don't work. What but but it's
not the same for Kamala's. So if Trump's campaign doesn't
attack ad on Kamala, that works really well, and they
go out and say, oh, she's failed, she's weak, she's
dangerously liberal. That works quite well. The ads that work
the best for Kamala are Buddy, the working class guy
(04:33):
who's shown listening to Trump, going, you guys are rich
as hell. These are to you know, billionaires, I'm going
to give you a tax cut, and Buddy says, well,
I'm not rich as hell and I need a tax cut.
So anything that's targeting the working class on economy and
cost of living it works for the Democrats. But not
attacking Trump.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, that is a very good point actually that you've made. Right,
They're right, we'll take a break, come back sixteen away
from six.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
The Huddle with New Zealand Sotheby's International Realty Elevate the
marketing of your home on the Huddle.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
With Us Trishuson and Josephganny. Trisha, do we need to
take the socials off?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Ginny?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Well as as a starting point. I mean, anyone facing
into the wind for a photo is going to look
like a vacuum packed lamb chop, aren't they. I thought,
I thought that that was pretty pretty silly and unfair,
And in fact, when I saw it that there were
two things that stuck out to me. One is I thought, gee,
poor old King Charles. He looks pretty old and thin
(05:32):
on it, and considering that he's been battling cancer this year,
that's no surprise. And then the other thing that I
noticed in that photo lurking in the background of it, yep,
was a navel. Was a naval vessel. And I thought
it's sort of a you know, it's sort of almost
you know, a ghostly image. Considering what happened to our
(05:53):
mana we nui over there.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
What you're trying to say, Trish, is you didn't even
look at his crotch, did you?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
No? No, I did it.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
No, I didn't think. I did think that about I
truly thought that though about the suit when you're facing
into the wind and any you know, as a woman,
you'd never do that with your best frock on. But
also I do think, you know, one of the things
that people get caught out on so often was social
not actually posting themselves, but liking a dumb tweet or
(06:26):
or a dumb post or re sharing.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
It without thinking, Yeah, I sort of feel like Josie,
there should be you know, like everybody's got some rules.
Right the minute that I start drinking, I do not drive.
I don't have an argument because it'll just go badly.
You know, you've got to have I don't send messages
to people because it's a bad idea. And I feel
like politicians should have a rule. You can use the
social but don't like other people's stuff, no matter how
(06:49):
hilarious it is.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Yeah, and nothing good happens after midnight. So if you're
on Twitter x whatever it's called now and doing tweeting
and retweeting and liking, your being a bit daft. But
the interesting thing is Jenny Anderson's offense here is pretty
similar grade to that of Andrew Bailey, isn't it. And
yet you know, where are the calls for her resignation?
There aren't there. I do think the thing that gets
(07:13):
me about Jenny is not no. I think it's the
same level of nothingness. Really, I mean I don't I
think she's daft to have done that and she shouldn't
have done it, But I don't think it's you know,
it's a big issue. I think the bigger issue for
me about Jenny is when she was police minister. And
I think it's not just the you know, ill advised
(07:34):
comments on Mitchell as police minister that he'd killed people
and so on. It's not so much this and not
even this silly tweet. It's more do you remember back
in the ram raids last year? And I remember she
was police minister and she came out and said, no, no,
actually the statistics show that ramraids are continuing to trend
downwards and we're all feeling safer. And it was such
a jarring note from a police minister when everyone was going,
(07:57):
this is awful, and darianors we're having a problem. So
I think she's got bigger problems, and I think Labour
has bigger problems with her than simply her daft you know.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Rechai agree. It's weird that they haven't realized after about
seven years of her saying stupid stuff out loud, that
she's a liability. But maybe maybe they'll get there in
the end. Now, Trish, what are we going to do
about the mail situation? I'm very happy for New Zealand
Posts to literally never deliver another piece of mail to
my letter box and just shut the thing down. What
about you?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I am absolutely with you. I mean, I can't think
of the last time I got anything in the mail
that I actually wanted. Main things around here still are
real estate flyers. You still get the odd circular from
chemists particularly. You get a lot of those, and often
(08:46):
it is it's tickets or something that you.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Really don't want.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Everything else is online, and I think for New Zealand
Post it's one of those things where they probably need
to make a pretty deep cut and get ahead of
it rather than you know, constantly what feels like cutting
back on on service. And these days, you know, I
was thinking, while you're in the back of the day,
you loved getting a letter. But these days, even with
(09:10):
your older friends and relatives, you just jump on FaceTime
with them.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
And every time I see the mailbox full of stuff,
my heart sinks because it's either a bill, a traffic fine,
hospital test result, or direct marketing, none of which are welcome.
So I don't want any of it. But for some reason,
banks still send bank statements, but I know you can
select not to.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I don't get that nut.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Oh I'm still getting bank sas. But yeah, the point
is that is it obviously is fading out a bit
like checks, right, But but you do have to phase
it out over time because you do have people in
sort of rural communities like I remember as an aide charity,
we had people sending donations with checks when the checks
were being phased out. So you've got to kind of
you've got to move slowly with this stuff, I guess.
But yeah, nothing good comes in the mailbox these days.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Too, right, nothing good at all. Thanks guys, appreciate it.
Trisius and Hurson, Willis, Pianrejo, Spaguani, Child and CEO.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
For more from Hither Duplessy, Allen Drive, listen live to
news Talks it B from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
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