November 1, 2024 • 10 mins
Newstalk ZB Sportsreader Andrew Alderson and Sport News Director Clay Wilson join Heather du Plessis-Allan for the Sports Huddle to discuss Joe Marler’s apology over his Haka comments, benching Damian McKenzie, the first A-League kiwi derby, and Liam Lawson’s nice guy persona.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Twenty away from six.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
The Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand southebyst international realty,
local and global exposure like no other.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
We think that that's ridiculous that we're doing Harkaz this
haircut of a ridiculous body eco for his age.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
We've got cultures down here in Polynesia and why should
we take it away?
Speaker 5 (00:23):
Think a bit of luck goes a long way in
this game.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
But I think we've you know, shown some real character
with our betting aspect as well, and betting in tough
conditions in India.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I've had the comment fashion come up a bit lately
like how do you feel it could be your last game?
And I've definitely been in a bit of denial about it.
I actually refused to believe with my last game. Right
here we go on the sports tuddle with us this evening.
Andrew Oldison News Talks, He'd be sports tread to Clay
Wilson News Talks AB Sports News Director. Hello, lads, hit it.
I reckon AFC is going to win. I just feel
(00:52):
like these guys are on just on a good buzz.
What do you reckon?
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Well, it's the top of the table clash isn't it.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
This is what you want in New Zealand football and
to be able to create that so early in their tenure.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
Auckland FC, they've had a dream start. Really.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I think if you were marketing the game, et cetera
in Auckland, that's it's perfect. So you're heading on down
there and I think that, yeah, they'll get some numbers
into the ground and it should be a terrific atmosphere.
And I guess building this rivalry over time, letting it,
letting it breathe, and just creating it as time goes on.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Clay, I see that the host was raising some concern
about the fact that this is the big derby and
it's not selling out. Is that is that a thing
to be worried about or is it just that's just
how it is.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I thought I saw this afternoon that I had that
may have changed since this morning was maybe maybe a
certain section of the of the crowd has sold out.
I would have thought they're going to get pretty good numbers,
just based on what you've we've been talking about, the
fact that they are two top of the table teams.
They would have done well anyway, just just with being
the first professional football derby in New Zealand, and I
(01:59):
just it's great to have a rivalry and a sport
in New Zealand that does rivalries best, really, isn't it.
Football rivalries around the world are just amazing and we
watch with jealousy from you know, leagues in Europe and
abroad how how well they do rivalry. So to have
one here now, it's great that everyone's diving into it,
and even the two clubs some of the stuff you
were talking with Nick Becker about. I have to say,
(02:21):
I think that the clubs are doing the needle very well.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
And I love it.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
So do you think that's what it is, Clay? Is
that just them needling each other?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I think it is And I say great because I
think a lot of other sports, you know, I'm looking
at rugby in a way they try and steer away
from it, and I think in recent years but that
perhaps realized that you've got to embrace that kind of thing.
That's what the fans want, and that's what the fans want,
a bit of tribalism, a bit of passion, so they
can really get into it.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I guess it's not quite sold out ants. How many
are sold at least twenty thousand. I think that's still
the same as it was this morning, right, orders have
you got the tea on what Ethan de group did?
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Well? We wanted to know this all day, haven't we.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
It's hanging out there from from Scott Robertson not really
revealing any detail as to what the the incident was.
I'm sure we'll squeak out eventually, but yeah, it's certainly
a state of intrigue for now, but it's not going
to be playing.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
You don't know, Clay, do you know?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
No, no idea. I haven't had anything any whispers come
across across.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
My ears, So just start meeting the standards hither.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Come on, no, come on, somebody's come on you. Sports
journos are usually really really good, like you're actually very
good at your job.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Somebody's going to get the shovel out. Yeah, yeah, I'm
so so.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Elliott before said it's got to be worse because because
Damo wasn't dropped when he fell asleep on the beach
and then had to get the taxi, and you know,
like that Norse had obviously been on the turps the
night before or something.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I'm making up stories. But it's got to be worse
than that, right, So it's it's on the more serious
level of things, isn't it?
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Orders well, and you would think so.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
For them to drop him for a tear s match,
he has to have been up to mischief in some capacity.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Okay, well, I mus care you like Mark Deala did Heather?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
How far? Maybe?
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Which?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
How far can we push this? Clay just speculating on
air to put pressure on ends it out to fess
up because we have pushed it so far? Do you
know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Wow? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
New Zealand Rugby are a pretty determined organization or it
comes to these kinds of things and keeping them quiet.
So I think it's going to have to take someone late,
Order says to get the shovel out and do some
decent digging.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Joe Marler on the case.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Actually I want to talk about him next hold fire
on that will come back quarters.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
To the Friday sports Huddle with New Zealand Southby's International
Realty elevate the marketing of your home right.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Orders you brought up, Joe Marlis, what do you make
of this? Has he got a point?
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Look? I think he does.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
In that well, we'll rugby grant the All Blacks opportunity
to do the hard care. And I think Marla's point
reading through it, even if it's been put a bit clumsily,
is that that the other teams deserve a right of
reply and as in anything that we do a live being,
a right reply should be allowed, shouldn't it on the field,
And how they go about that, I mean I can appreciate. Yeah,
(05:18):
so he gets an oscar for distraction technics, doesn't over
the course for all week, But I think that, Yeah,
I think he does have a point there.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, I think so too. And do you know what, Clay,
what surprises me is how sensitive we are about does
I mean the guy basically got god bombarded on Twitter,
deleted his Twitter account as a result, then came back
and apologized directly to New Zealand fans. What's wrong with us?
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Yeah? I don't know. And I actually love the way
he sort of added a social media again and just
apologized and just you know, he's a real character for
those that don't know, Joe Mahler, and he's and I
think he's handled it pretty well. In order to use
the word clumsy, I think that's all This is really
he's He's got his point across in a very clumsy
kind of yet perhaps are too direct a fashion, and
people a few people have got a bit sensitive about that.
(06:02):
But you know we were talking about rivalry in the football. Well,
the hacker is a challenge and you know some of them.
He has been some great moments over the years of
teams responding to the hacker. You know, me personally, I
love the hacker and I love it when teams respond
to it. You know, remember the flying v that the
French did in the World Cup final here, and you
know there were some great moments in the sort of
late nineties where the England team got right face to
(06:24):
face with.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Was it the Welshoe wouldn't look away and so everybody
just stood there looking at each other for ages.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah, there was the standoff, you know, and those these
are moments that have been years ago and we remember them.
So it just goes to show, right, So I think, yeah,
like he made a good point, you just didn't get
it across in the best fashion.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Okay, Now, Liam Lawson orders is he getting a little
too sassy?
Speaker 5 (06:48):
I'm liking as hunger.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
It's a guy who's determined and it's a guy not desperate,
but is absolutely revenous to succeed in Formula one?
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Is it? And I just think that, oh, he's.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Put it out there as flipping the bird, et cetera.
I mean, I do tend to think that if you're
going at threaded casion now and you want to you
you would have that sort of reaction.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
I mean we do on our motorways ourselves something.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
If you're going to go out, you want to go
out in style and you want to flip it. So anyway,
it's amazing what flashes through your mind in those tight moments.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Not that I'm driving like Liam Lawson three, What do
you reckon?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Clay?
Speaker 5 (07:25):
No, I love it.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
And the thing is, I think Liam's had quite a
clean cut image up until now, but he's always, you know,
from speaking to him for a few years now, been
a very determined young man. And I think that's all
the shows. It's been a bit of a coincidence that
has happened with you know, two or three veterans of
the of the Formula one paddock and you know people
have got a bit up in arms about that. But
you know, in terms of cut throat sports or industries
(07:49):
in sports, Formula one is right out there, if not
the most cut throat. If you're not out there to
win and you know, stay in front of all costs,
you know, you might as well not be there. So
I love that he's showing this because it shows especially
he's trying to push for a promotion to a team
like Red Bull, you know they're going to be looking
at that and saying, here's here's a kid who's not
going to be pushed over. So I think it's it's
(08:10):
great and it makes her exciting racing for when he's
on the cameras.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yeah, totally. Now listen on the Constellation Cup and the
fact that we want it basically because grayston Wick is
just amazing Clay, do we have to I mean, does
Newble New Zealand have to reconsider this concession and give
her a concession to go over to Australia and play
but still play for the silver Ferns.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I feel like here that we've spoken about this before,
maybe more than once, and it's just to me. You know,
we've got New Zealand cricket now and the sports aren't
apples for apples, but you know, making certain concessions with
players who are long serving or you know, leading players
within these national teams and to me, you know, you've
got to play like Grace Wiki. She's only going to
get better going and playing in Australia, isn't she. So yes, yes,
(08:50):
I mean I guess New Zealand Netball. New Zealand's and
a bit of a precarious situation because the domestic league
is in flux and a bit up in the year,
so they have to consider that. But you know, some
of these leading players, if they want to go to me,
it's not like the All Blacks. Maybe you know, you
have to consider it and say, well, she's going to
get better and if that's going to be better for
the Silver Ferns, then we have to look at it.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
What do you reckon orders?
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Look, I reckon Wiki is possibly ahead of the curve here.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Because Nipborne's you know, may eventually go back to Nepple
Australia and they may form another competition and then that
will be scraped. So therefore she'll be you know, welcomed
back with open arps. I mean, otherwise, I mean they've
got they've already had their own sort of getto law
if you like with the comparison to the rugby with
Laura langmam Maria Philau being able to play after they
reach a certain number of cap certain number of season service.
(09:37):
But I don't think it's going to come to that.
I suspect it's not the last time that we've seeing
Grayson Wicky in a black dress.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Okay, well, I hope So guys, listen, thank you, I
really appreciate it. Go and enjoy your weekend to sport,
have a lovely Friday evening, Try not to behave like
Ethan de Groot whatever he did. Eight Away from six.
That was our sports huddle Andrew Ordison and Clay Wills.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
For more from Hither, Dupless and Drive, listen live to
News Talks it B from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
Twenty away from six.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
The Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand southebyst international realty,
local and global exposure like no other.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
We think that that's ridiculous that we're doing Harkaz this
haircut of a ridiculous body eco for his age.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
We've got cultures down here in Polynesia and why should
we take it away?
Speaker 5 (00:23):
Think a bit of luck goes a long way in
this game.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
But I think we've you know, shown some real character
with our betting aspect as well, and betting in tough
conditions in India.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I've had the comment fashion come up a bit lately
like how do you feel it could be your last game?
And I've definitely been in a bit of denial about it.
I actually refused to believe with my last game. Right
here we go on the sports tuddle with us this evening.
Andrew Oldison News Talks, He'd be sports tread to Clay
Wilson News Talks AB Sports News Director. Hello, lads, hit it.
I reckon AFC is going to win. I just feel
(00:52):
like these guys are on just on a good buzz.
What do you reckon?
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Well, it's the top of the table clash isn't it.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
This is what you want in New Zealand football and
to be able to create that so early in their tenure.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
Auckland FC, they've had a dream start. Really.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I think if you were marketing the game, et cetera
in Auckland, that's it's perfect. So you're heading on down
there and I think that, yeah, they'll get some numbers
into the ground and it should be a terrific atmosphere.
And I guess building this rivalry over time, letting it,
letting it breathe, and just creating it as time goes on.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Clay, I see that the host was raising some concern
about the fact that this is the big derby and
it's not selling out. Is that is that a thing
to be worried about or is it just that's just
how it is.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I thought I saw this afternoon that I had that
may have changed since this morning was maybe maybe a
certain section of the of the crowd has sold out.
I would have thought they're going to get pretty good numbers,
just based on what you've we've been talking about, the
fact that they are two top of the table teams.
They would have done well anyway, just just with being
the first professional football derby in New Zealand, and I
(01:59):
just it's great to have a rivalry and a sport
in New Zealand that does rivalries best, really, isn't it.
Football rivalries around the world are just amazing and we
watch with jealousy from you know, leagues in Europe and
abroad how how well they do rivalry. So to have
one here now, it's great that everyone's diving into it,
and even the two clubs some of the stuff you
were talking with Nick Becker about. I have to say,
(02:21):
I think that the clubs are doing the needle very well.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
And I love it.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
So do you think that's what it is, Clay? Is
that just them needling each other?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I think it is And I say great because I
think a lot of other sports, you know, I'm looking
at rugby in a way they try and steer away
from it, and I think in recent years but that
perhaps realized that you've got to embrace that kind of thing.
That's what the fans want, and that's what the fans want,
a bit of tribalism, a bit of passion, so they
can really get into it.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I guess it's not quite sold out ants. How many
are sold at least twenty thousand. I think that's still
the same as it was this morning, right, orders have
you got the tea on what Ethan de group did?
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Well? We wanted to know this all day, haven't we.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
It's hanging out there from from Scott Robertson not really
revealing any detail as to what the the incident was.
I'm sure we'll squeak out eventually, but yeah, it's certainly
a state of intrigue for now, but it's not going
to be playing.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
You don't know, Clay, do you know?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
No, no idea. I haven't had anything any whispers come
across across.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
My ears, So just start meeting the standards hither.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Come on, no, come on, somebody's come on you. Sports
journos are usually really really good, like you're actually very
good at your job.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Somebody's going to get the shovel out. Yeah, yeah, I'm
so so.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Elliott before said it's got to be worse because because
Damo wasn't dropped when he fell asleep on the beach
and then had to get the taxi, and you know,
like that Norse had obviously been on the turps the
night before or something.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I'm making up stories. But it's got to be worse
than that, right, So it's it's on the more serious
level of things, isn't it?
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Orders well, and you would think so.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
For them to drop him for a tear s match,
he has to have been up to mischief in some capacity.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Okay, well, I mus care you like Mark Deala did Heather?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
How far? Maybe?
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Which?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
How far can we push this? Clay just speculating on
air to put pressure on ends it out to fess
up because we have pushed it so far? Do you
know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Wow? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
New Zealand Rugby are a pretty determined organization or it
comes to these kinds of things and keeping them quiet.
So I think it's going to have to take someone late,
Order says to get the shovel out and do some
decent digging.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Joe Marler on the case.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Actually I want to talk about him next hold fire
on that will come back quarters.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
To the Friday sports Huddle with New Zealand Southby's International
Realty elevate the marketing of your home right.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Orders you brought up, Joe Marlis, what do you make
of this? Has he got a point?
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Look? I think he does.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
In that well, we'll rugby grant the All Blacks opportunity
to do the hard care. And I think Marla's point
reading through it, even if it's been put a bit clumsily,
is that that the other teams deserve a right of
reply and as in anything that we do a live being,
a right reply should be allowed, shouldn't it on the field,
And how they go about that, I mean I can appreciate. Yeah,
(05:18):
so he gets an oscar for distraction technics, doesn't over
the course for all week, But I think that, Yeah,
I think he does have a point there.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, I think so too. And do you know what, Clay,
what surprises me is how sensitive we are about does
I mean the guy basically got god bombarded on Twitter,
deleted his Twitter account as a result, then came back
and apologized directly to New Zealand fans. What's wrong with us?
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Yeah? I don't know. And I actually love the way
he sort of added a social media again and just
apologized and just you know, he's a real character for
those that don't know, Joe Mahler, and he's and I
think he's handled it pretty well. In order to use
the word clumsy, I think that's all This is really
he's He's got his point across in a very clumsy
kind of yet perhaps are too direct a fashion, and
people a few people have got a bit sensitive about that.
(06:02):
But you know we were talking about rivalry in the football. Well,
the hacker is a challenge and you know some of them.
He has been some great moments over the years of
teams responding to the hacker. You know, me personally, I
love the hacker and I love it when teams respond
to it. You know, remember the flying v that the
French did in the World Cup final here, and you
know there were some great moments in the sort of
late nineties where the England team got right face to
(06:24):
face with.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Was it the Welshoe wouldn't look away and so everybody
just stood there looking at each other for ages.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah, there was the standoff, you know, and those these
are moments that have been years ago and we remember them.
So it just goes to show, right, So I think, yeah,
like he made a good point, you just didn't get
it across in the best fashion.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Okay, Now, Liam Lawson orders is he getting a little
too sassy?
Speaker 5 (06:48):
I'm liking as hunger.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
It's a guy who's determined and it's a guy not desperate,
but is absolutely revenous to succeed in Formula one?
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Is it? And I just think that, oh, he's.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Put it out there as flipping the bird, et cetera.
I mean, I do tend to think that if you're
going at threaded casion now and you want to you
you would have that sort of reaction.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
I mean we do on our motorways ourselves something.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
If you're going to go out, you want to go
out in style and you want to flip it. So anyway,
it's amazing what flashes through your mind in those tight moments.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Not that I'm driving like Liam Lawson three, What do
you reckon?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Clay?
Speaker 5 (07:25):
No, I love it.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
And the thing is, I think Liam's had quite a
clean cut image up until now, but he's always, you know,
from speaking to him for a few years now, been
a very determined young man. And I think that's all
the shows. It's been a bit of a coincidence that
has happened with you know, two or three veterans of
the of the Formula one paddock and you know people
have got a bit up in arms about that. But
you know, in terms of cut throat sports or industries
(07:49):
in sports, Formula one is right out there, if not
the most cut throat. If you're not out there to
win and you know, stay in front of all costs,
you know, you might as well not be there. So
I love that he's showing this because it shows especially
he's trying to push for a promotion to a team
like Red Bull, you know they're going to be looking
at that and saying, here's here's a kid who's not
going to be pushed over. So I think it's it's
(08:10):
great and it makes her exciting racing for when he's
on the cameras.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yeah, totally. Now listen on the Constellation Cup and the
fact that we want it basically because grayston Wick is
just amazing Clay, do we have to I mean, does
Newble New Zealand have to reconsider this concession and give
her a concession to go over to Australia and play
but still play for the silver Ferns.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I feel like here that we've spoken about this before,
maybe more than once, and it's just to me. You know,
we've got New Zealand cricket now and the sports aren't
apples for apples, but you know, making certain concessions with
players who are long serving or you know, leading players
within these national teams and to me, you know, you've
got to play like Grace Wiki. She's only going to
get better going and playing in Australia, isn't she. So yes, yes,
(08:50):
I mean I guess New Zealand Netball. New Zealand's and
a bit of a precarious situation because the domestic league
is in flux and a bit up in the year,
so they have to consider that. But you know, some
of these leading players, if they want to go to me,
it's not like the All Blacks. Maybe you know, you
have to consider it and say, well, she's going to
get better and if that's going to be better for
the Silver Ferns, then we have to look at it.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
What do you reckon orders?
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Look, I reckon Wiki is possibly ahead of the curve here.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Because Nipborne's you know, may eventually go back to Nepple
Australia and they may form another competition and then that
will be scraped. So therefore she'll be you know, welcomed
back with open arps. I mean, otherwise, I mean they've
got they've already had their own sort of getto law
if you like with the comparison to the rugby with
Laura langmam Maria Philau being able to play after they
reach a certain number of cap certain number of season service.
(09:37):
But I don't think it's going to come to that.
I suspect it's not the last time that we've seeing
Grayson Wicky in a black dress.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Okay, well, I hope So guys, listen, thank you, I
really appreciate it. Go and enjoy your weekend to sport,
have a lovely Friday evening, Try not to behave like
Ethan de Groot whatever he did. Eight Away from six.
That was our sports huddle Andrew Ordison and Clay Wills.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
For more from Hither, Dupless and Drive, listen live to
News Talks it B from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
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