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Dan Beyer and Monse Bolanos in for C&R as they talk about the New England Patriots and how their brand has faded off into irrelevancy. Dan and Monse take calls on the most irrelevant teams in sports. Dan and Monse discuss Colin Kaepernick and his willingness or lack of willingness to get back into the NFL. 

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the weekend, so you've basically made into the weekend. Great job, everybody,
all right, our fives all around?

Speaker 4 (00:32):
What about us people who don't have weekends.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
You had a Monday and Monday, right, Monday was your weekend?

Speaker 5 (00:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (00:41):
So am I like? Am I at my home day?
Is that where I'm at?

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Is that why you're in a sour mood today?

Speaker 7 (00:47):
Ye? Sour.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
You are a sour mood because of what happened last night.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
The captain is sitting on two hundred and ninety nine
homers three zero Judge hives it.

Speaker 6 (01:00):
Field way back and come good bye.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
On a three old bitch.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Judge Laser's home run number three hundred, the most famous
fastest run a hit mark and blows this one wide
open in the eight court is in session.

Speaker 6 (01:18):
I mean, I feel like we did that. We did that?
Did we not manifest to Menphis all of that?

Speaker 1 (01:25):
The guy everyone was talking about last night, Yes, Aaron Judge,
Aaron Judge, the conversation so much so that Heck Cavino
and Rich who aren't even on their own show because
they were in for Dan Patrick, they were talking about
it as well.

Speaker 6 (01:39):
They were they were talking.

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I mean when this happened, I was like, Wow, this
story continues, the saga continues, and I did I did

(02:02):
think about this more. Aaron Judge is kind of like
show Hey O Tawani that they don't seem to like
the spotlight, like the attention. And I think if he
was more of like a Bryce Harper personality, then his
name would be plastered more across sports.

Speaker 6 (02:22):
But I think he's just not that type of guy.
So it's like he.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
Should be more famous, he should be more well known,
and we don't give him enough credit.

Speaker 6 (02:30):
But it's because I think he's just kind of like.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
I'm chilling, like I'm doing great things and I don't
need the attention.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
I've got one thing to say. What the defense rests
evidence Judge right there. Anything that I could say is
not going to do that justice great. By the way,
we're not going to continue to talk about this, so
don't worry about it. But what a perfect way to
end it, right, like seriously like it was, and then

(02:59):
you have topics of comversation last night of how many
home runs is he going to hit? It was just
it was just fitting. Sometimes the baseball gods are in
your corner, and last night, for once, they were in mind.
Jason Stewart's our executive producer, Jason Stewart is here today. Hello,
James Hell everybody. Iow Sam could not handle Aaron Judge

(03:20):
hitting his three hundredth home run and overshadowing Caitlin Clark.
So he's not here, but we have the one the
only you hear him on the weekends, you hear him
on the weekdays, and now you're hearing him at the
update desk. But he's not there. Today, Chris Purpetti is here.

Speaker 8 (03:35):
Kiss the rigs baby, all these free freaking rings Yankees.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Isaac Glowin Crown is at the news desk. I'm not
just a pretty face.

Speaker 9 (03:43):
He is not.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
It is a throwback Thursday here on Cavino and Rich
and we are going to throw it back and we're
gonna throw it back to you, so the faithful listeners
of Cavino and Rich, because we are throwing it back
to whenever you choose. And the reason we're doing it
this way is because last week Monci in Week one

(04:06):
of the NFL preseason, I was excited to sit down
and watch football on a Thursday night. Hall of Fame
game is a great start. But last week we had
a double header, although they were going out at the
same time, so I guess it's not really a double header.
But there were two games going on. Patriots were playing,
Lions and Giants were playing. And I said to myself
and watching the Patriots game as they were facing Carolina, man,

(04:31):
that Patriots logo that used to mean something a lot.
I love the old pat Patriot and I don't like
the flying Elvis Patriot. But the flying Elvis Patriot does
resemble winning. It's what you think of, you think of
Tom Brady, you think of Bill Belichick, you think of
the last twenty years, and how often you saw that

(04:52):
flying elvis head. And it dawned on me last week
so much so that even this week I said, Hey,
on Thursday, we're talking about this because the Patriots play
preseason football tonight against Philadelphia and you're going to see
another Super Bowl rematch, by the way, for them in
the preseason. But you're gonna see that flying Elvis head
and it doesn't mean as much as it once did,

(05:13):
doesn't hit not at all. You can get all your
Drake made jerseys you want now, you got to sell
your Matthew Judon jerseys, you can wear your Romandrake Stevenson jerseys.
It is not the same as it once was. And
it got me to think of, like what other organizations
or teams, even schools and if you want to go

(05:33):
into the college game, really meant something at one time
and now it was just kind of faded off into irrelevancy.
Because that's where the New England Patriots are right now.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
Yeah, when you brought this up, I instantly thought of one,
like right.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Away, instantly instill right off the top of your right.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
Off the top of my head, and that was the
San Francisco Giants.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Waw.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
Instantly, I thought of their three World Series tampionships that
happened a year apart two twelve, twenty fourteen, and how
they were such.

Speaker 6 (06:07):
You know, everybody was like, is it a dynasty even
though they've won every but they weren't.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
They were the team, you know for the longest time,
which is so annoying as a Dodgers fan that they
were just so prominent for such a long period of time.

Speaker 6 (06:21):
And now.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
It does not hit you know, it's a really good
pick because I also just look at the Giants, not
only from the World Series, but just on how much
we paid attention to him because of Barry Bombs. Oh yeah,
in just that timeframe, going to the two World Series,
obviously you know, his seventy three home run season, obviously
him just chasing Hank Aaron's all time mark. We were

(06:46):
always paying attention to the Giants, and then to your point,
Buster Posey and mad Bomb and everybody goes they win
three World Series in that five year span. Yeah, that's
a really good.

Speaker 6 (06:56):
Pick that I instantly thought.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Now it's difficult to name a job if you're not
following one Major League.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
Boo, especially when that division right now with the Padres,
the Diamondbacks and the Dodgers, it's such a close race
and they're.

Speaker 6 (07:08):
Like not even a part of it.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Even like Pablo Sandoval was like a popular player where
you're like, oh, yeah, all right, Panda great Now tough sledden, Yeah,
tough Sledden. I had one in the National Football League.
And I'm curious in what you guys think. And if
you want to chime in eight seven, seven nine nine
on Fox, that's eight seven seven nine nine six six

(07:32):
three six ' nine. We could go in Major League Baseball,
we could go in the NBA. If you want to
bring hockey into this, I think college sports. There's a
couple in college athletics that I really want to bring up.
But my number one in the NFL the New Orleans Saints.
Remember the other day when I said it, Hey, if
I wasn't a Seahawks fan, I'd maybe be a Saints fan.
It seems like a fun tame watch out boy is

(07:53):
running from the back coming out, you know, I know,
But but right now, like, what is there to talk about?
There's no show Peyton. There's no Drew Brees, and they
were elevated because of that duo and the success that
they had. I remember when the Saints were the Aints,
but they rise to this level. And Chris, I actually
feel that I can say this because in a way,

(08:14):
I think my Seahawks are in the same boat. There
is a different feel with the Seahawks without Russell Wilson,
without Pete Carroll, which is fine by me. All the
bandwagon jumpers can leave. But when we're talking about the
National Football League and you're talking about the twenty twenty
four season, I guarantee you, if you were to talk
about every single team, the New Orleans Saints would be
at either thirty thirty one or thirty two. Nobody is

(08:37):
talking about them, good or bad. They're just completely irrelevant.
They're just there right now in the National Football League,
and at one point they're appearing on Sunday Night Football
four times a year because Drew Brees is throwing the
football here, there, and everywhere, and that is no longer
the case.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yeah, I mean, Bree's talking about it. She's the only
Saints fan I know. Oh Bree. She always talks about
how much she hates Derek Carr. But aside from that,
you're right, nobody else is talking about them. And at
one point they were a.

Speaker 6 (09:03):
Team you were.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
They carried And when you think of that, think of
the National Football League, Manzi, over the last fifteen to
twenty years. You have Tom Brady with the Patriots, Peyton
Manning with the Colts and then with the Broncos, Ben
Roethlisberger with the Steelers, Philip Rivers with the Chargers. You
have got guys all in the AFC. So who's carrying
that NFC banner like the Saints were? Like, realistically, if

(09:28):
it's not the Packers, the Saints were there. We have
turnover all the time in the NFC east on who's
good and who's bad. So one of those teams are
popping up or not. The forty nine Ers actually have
been a roller coaster more success lately than maybe before.
But if they're not up, they were really down. And
here are the Saints that are that team that actually
carried kind of the NFC for a while. I think

(09:49):
Green Bay is fair enough to say that they were
a part of that as well, but they're now green
Bay's relevant. Jordan love their young players, They're winning football
games or winning playoff games. But the Saints have completely
fallen off them.

Speaker 6 (10:01):
They're just there. Yes, they're just there.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Jason Stewart, our executive producer, do you want in on
our relevancy? I do, I do, and I do? Uh.

Speaker 10 (10:09):
At one point about Mossi's contribution, do you remember the
moment that the Giants turned irrelevant? The moment the Giants
turned irrelevant? And he guess, and he guesses our guy,
John Hammond tweeted out Arson judge the Giants.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
That moment.

Speaker 10 (10:26):
Moving forward, they became an awful baseball team and no
one talks about them.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
So the lost out on getting the most popular player
basically in sport. Oh that's right, yea, man, it all
comes around.

Speaker 10 (10:40):
I'm going to do this one because the guy that
typically sits in this chair would really like this contribution.
The the former Oakland, former Los Angeles Raiders that are
now in the in Vegas Remember they were the what
what's something to excellence? What's there been to excellence?

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (10:58):
When has that been relevant? How many years as it's
been there's a two thirty Yeah, two thousand and two.
They went to the title.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Game under the Super Bowl, lost to the Buccaneers.

Speaker 10 (11:08):
Oh, that's right, that's right. I'm gonna go with the
Raiders on those What do you guys think is that worker?

Speaker 8 (11:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (11:13):
I think they're starting though, to become relevant again.

Speaker 10 (11:18):
Now is the question on the field success or lack
of success or because the Raiders brand is still very relevant,
don't get me wrong. Maybe that's that's where I'm going at.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
That's well, that's where I think they still have staying power. Yes, yes,
I am not seeing. Not that I saw a ton
of Saints jerseys, but I am not seeing There's there's
no Drew Brees jersey in any sports store that I'm
walking into. If there are still sports stores, there's one
in the mall out here, but there's no Drew Brees.
There's no Chris A Lave, there's no Derek Carr. But

(11:50):
if you went ten years ago, it was always Drew Brees.
And then maybe I have a white and a black
one because it was Drew Brees. Maybe it's relying so
much on the quarterback. But they were the Saints. They
were I mean many times they were knocking on the
door of a Super Bowl. The Raiders like, it's really
close because I feel like the Cowboys are a topic
of conversation no.

Speaker 6 (12:09):
Matter what, no matter what, and they're not, you know,
doing anything lately.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah, well, the Cowboys are good, the Cowboys are bad.
It's a story.

Speaker 6 (12:15):
It's a story, right, But the Raiders, it's.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
It's really borderline. But I can, I can. I could
be swayed Jason towards that because I can see where
you're going with me. You could tell me I'm wrong,
that's a bad and I can one.

Speaker 6 (12:29):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
I think it's like an in between because of the
Raider name. But you're right, their success hasn't been there,
so they haven't been relevant in that sense.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
But it's awful.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
And to add to what you were saying about the
Saints and the Patriots, I actually think to act to
agree with you that if you probably go to a
store and you're buying a Patriots jersey, you're probably gonna
buy a Tom Brady one. If you go to a
Saint you want a Saint, You're probably gonna.

Speaker 6 (12:53):
Buy a Breeze one. You're not buying a new jersey
for either of those teams, correct, because they're not relevant?

Speaker 8 (12:59):
Yes, I think, yeah, I think to your point, like relevance,
you can still be bad and be relevant.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
It's just the Raiders in the new Cleveland Browns.

Speaker 8 (13:07):
I think of them like, I feel like since the
Brown's got good, we stopped paying attention to them as
much like it' stopped being the fun story about Haha.
They're trotting out another quarterback.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
They're more of an issue because when Deshaun Watson came there,
we were more focused on him, and then when that
kind of went away a little, they kind of went away.
Their importance did. But yeah, for years and years we
would have topics of conversation about the Cleveland Browns here
on Fox Sports Radio, and no one really talks about them.
Right now, I have one for college football. Okay, hold

(13:39):
on to it, sit on it. I don't want you
to double up because they've got to give Isaac some time.
And we got JD's in North Carolina in the on
deck circle. Yeah, the lines are lit up, Isaac as usual.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
I've got the best answer out of everybody. Sure. The
most irrelevant team in sports over at least the last
thirty five years, the Atlanta Hawks ever since, Dominique Wilkins.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Doc Rivers, and the Highlight Factory. Here's the point, though,
and you're right. But when they had their when they
had their trio Kevin Willis, Doc Rivers, Dominique, as you mentioned,
they were they were something else. But they never reached
the height of heights of an NBA championship. They never
even made it to an NBA finals. They were good,
they were very good, and even their good teams over

(14:26):
the past decade didn't matter exactly you know, the exactly
it was. It the Al Horford, Joe Johnson, Yeah, like
that crew. Kyle Korver was a part of it. Yeah,
they're just completely irrelevant. Good.

Speaker 10 (14:39):
I'm glad you put I'm glad you said that, because, uh,
if I'm going to go NBA for something like the Hawks,
I would say the Wizards are even more irrelevant. The
Wizards are, but they never I guess they won in
the seventies once. Yeah, if but nobody spend.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Time talking Think about how much time we've talked about
the Patriots or we've even talked about the Saints. Yeah,
I ever talked about the.

Speaker 6 (14:59):
Cleveland I would say yesterday, you know we had Nick Cope.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
I think the Kings, the Sacramento Kings were for a
couple of years.

Speaker 6 (15:07):
Someone you talked.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
About even though they didn't win, it was a team
that you were talking about in the NBA because they
gave the Lakers a run for their money.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Sure that was twenty years ago.

Speaker 6 (15:15):
I twenty years that's the point.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
JD's in North Carolina. Welcome to Cavino and Rich here
on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 5 (15:24):
Hey, guys, I just wanted to switch them.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
I'm going to.

Speaker 5 (15:26):
College football with mine as well.

Speaker 7 (15:28):
I got two though.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
I got Nebraska and the Hurricanes.

Speaker 11 (15:32):
My both archnimlessist rival college because I'm.

Speaker 12 (15:35):
An SSU fan.

Speaker 5 (15:36):
Yes, I hated both those clans, but they're both just
being material nowadays. No one's rocking that gear anymore.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
No, in Nebraska, I feel like there's just such a
groundswell of people wanting Nebraska to be good or just
completely relishing in their misery. But I think Matt Rule
turns it around. I wouldn't say that their failures have
also made them a topic of conversation. This desire to
be back, this feeling by the Nebraska fan base. It's

(16:07):
funny because Iowa Sam isn't here, but Nebraska's become such
a huge rival with Iowa, and Iowa has their number.
But he's right in terms of like they reached the top.
I still think we have these Nebraska conversations but in Miami,
trying to turn around with you know, Mario Christobal, but
he was a Florida State fan, and those were two

(16:27):
big rivals that Now, if you're Florida State, you're more
worried about Clemson or whoever you would play maybe in
a college football playoff than any of those two teams
Jakes and Indiana. Welcome to Caveno and Richie on Fox
Sports Radio. Who is irrelevant now? That was once relevant
back in the day.

Speaker 12 (16:42):
It's got to be my NBA team. I'm sorry, Isaac.
Atlanta Hawks was a good one. But Chicago Bulls Man,
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 7 (16:51):
Not not the Saints. Jordan and we hadd Rose taking
from use two early days.

Speaker 11 (16:58):
Guys, love you bye, we.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Love you too? Is that like I love you where
you actually don't mean it, but you do you know?

Speaker 6 (17:05):
Yeah, I know you meant it. He's not in love
with us, he just loves it.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
I love that answer so much that I knocked my
my ear piece.

Speaker 6 (17:11):
Yes he did, he really did.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
It's perfect though. They were the team for how long? Yes? Yeah?
An entire decade?

Speaker 5 (17:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (17:18):
And then you still like, you're like, oh yeah, the
Chicago Bulls, like you go.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Back to that moment and tried to derreck Rose. The
Derek Rose led Bulls, tried to make an imprint, but
it was Bulls everywhere, absolutely everywhere, and now just not
even a blip on the screen that could be the
number one answer if this was the feud.

Speaker 6 (17:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Okay, we can round to it, but we're gonna we're
gonna get some more more into this. I want to
give you a second one of mine. Georgetown basketball in
college hoops, there was a time Isaac is nodding his
head when it was led by Patrick Ewing. They had
a bit of a rebirth about fifteen seventeen years ago.

(18:03):
They made it to a Final Four in two thousand
and seven. But in the nineteen eighties, Georgetown basketball was it.
It was the thing, whether it be Patrick Ewing, whether
at b Alonzo Morning, whether it be to Kenby Mutumbo.
And it has just not been back. And I would
love for Georgetown to be great again. I would love

(18:24):
for them to be back again, but it's not even close.
There was a time where they dominated college basketball, where
the name in college basketball you could, and Isaac would
back me up on this. You could put them with Kentucky,
Kansas UCLA in that decade of like blue bloods.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Georgetown merchandise was a big thyest back then. And Alan
iverson too.

Speaker 8 (18:43):
I'm glad you said Patrick Ewing is a player, because
we can all very easily forget Patrick Ewing.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
As a coach at Georgetown's that was miserable. Yes, yes
again when they were irrelevant, they won the automatic bit
and then they got boat raced by Colorado in the
first round a couple of years ago, by like twenty
or thirty. So Georgetown is the team that I needed
to get on the map. As we continue this conversation.

Speaker 9 (19:05):
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Speaker 1 (19:20):
Covito Rich here on Fox Sports Radio. I'm Dan Byer,
She's Monty Belanos. Loving the feedback on this throwback Thursday.
Patriots playing tonight against the Philadelphia Eagles. They aren't the
same old Patriots, and I don't know if they ever
will be. What team was once relevant in such a
fabric of your sporting life, but now it's practically nonexistent.

(19:41):
You had won in college football.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
I did, and you know I'm not big on this,
but it just goes to show how I remember them
being so big during the early two thousands USC football.
I felt like Pete Carroll, Reggie Bush, Matt Lioner, like
you went to USC football.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Yes, and now what are they doing? They were more
popular than some NFL teams.

Speaker 6 (20:05):
I remember that. I remember that and I.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
Wasn't even into college football, but I knew all about them.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
It's a good pick. We've had Miami come up, Nebraska
come up. I still think we talk about Nebraska, and
that's why I don't think that they're irrelevant now because
there is this, but I think it's some of our
nostalgia that draws us back. And I kind of think
it's the same thing with USC, Like it's they are
not even close to who they were twenty years ago,

(20:33):
and I.

Speaker 6 (20:33):
Don't feel like people talk about them.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
I mean, Caleb Williams was there last year, But aside
from that, what are you saying about USC football?

Speaker 1 (20:42):
You know what you're saying is what is Lincoln Riley
doing wrong?

Speaker 6 (20:45):
And you know what I actually didn't want to say.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
That, Yeah, that's what people are talking about.

Speaker 12 (20:48):
That it is.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yeah, Winston's in Kentucky. Welcome to Coveno and Rich here
on Fox Sports. Already Winston who was once relevant, that
we no longer care.

Speaker 11 (20:54):
About the University of Louisville basketball team, and you mentioned Georgetown.

Speaker 7 (21:03):
I'm afraid they're heading down.

Speaker 5 (21:05):
That path of decades of irrelevance where they're they're far
from turning it around.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
You are that is? That is such a good nomination
national champions in twenty thirteen, had it taken away by
the NCAA, but still decade removed from a national championship.
And then you just think of all of their success
prior to that under Denny Crumb. You win the nineteen eighties,
what couple national championships during that decade, and like this

(21:34):
is it was the top of college basketball, and you
could say at one point that Louisville in the eighties
better than Kentucky at that point. Now it's crazy to
even think of that as a possibility in a conversation.
And Louisville completely bottoming out over the last couple of
years and trying over and over to get back it's

(21:54):
a great nominee from Winston. Chris Purfett. You said you
had another one that you wanted to add.

Speaker 8 (22:00):
It's kind of in the same vein of a lot
of these programs, but I think it's the recency that
kind of gets And I was sitting here preparing for
the college football season, I realized I have not thought
about the Florida Gators in ten years, and for a
program that really was the one who put the SEC
on the map, who had Steve Spurrier, who had Urban Meyer,

(22:20):
who had I mean, just name it in players between
emmittt Smith, Percy Harvin, I Florida. I don't remember the
last time I've seen them ranked. I don't remember the
last time I've talked about them since Will must Champ
got fired, and before that it was Will Muschamp losing
to Georgia Southern in the Swamp. It's completely just become

(22:41):
mediocrity and lost in that SEC mass.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
They were such a story with Spurrier in the nineties.
They win a national championship in ninety six, and then
you mentioned urban Meyer and the two titles that they
had in six and eight. So you're spanning, Yeah, you're
spanning a good decade there, and there was success in
between those nowtional championships for sure. So we're even going
past a decade. And we had a caller bring up

(23:05):
Miami earlier with Florida State not kind of being the
king of football in that state at this point. Yeah,
Florida's fell. They've really moved off the map and have
really been in the shuffle. I think you'd even say
in the sec where we thought Alabama Florida at one point. Heck,
I'm gonna correct myself, Florida Alabama at one point, Florida Alabama,
LSU is those three Georgia's now emerged, maybe knocking out Florida. Yeah,

(23:30):
it's it's crazy to think that how quickly Florida has
moved on. Michael and Virginia walking to Covino and Rich.

Speaker 11 (23:37):
Hey, guys, love to show.

Speaker 7 (23:41):
Well.

Speaker 11 (23:41):
First off, my number one taking off the board now Chicago,
So I'm gonna go with my number two, Oakland A's
of SECO. Yeah, Dennis Ackersley, that team, you know, they
were always during the steroid era, but now really don't.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
Michael has got a bad phone.

Speaker 6 (24:01):
Yeah, but he's right though.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
Now the oak Lannes don't even have a stadium like.

Speaker 6 (24:05):
They aren't they do.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
It's just inhabited by rats, that's all it. I mean,
it's it's.

Speaker 10 (24:12):
The A's are run like that phone connection. You're really
bad and needed to die off. You can just kill
it off.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
Yeah, Like all the things being talked about when it
comes to the A's not good stuff, unless you're talking
about the reliever Mason Miller.

Speaker 6 (24:25):
Who's pretty good. Aside from that, you're not really talking
about the A's.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
I don't want to age anyone here, and I will
not age you except to say you weren't even born
at this point. Manzi. I do think Jason's a little
older than me, and I think Isaac's a little younger
than me. But I feel like my pocket of when
I grew up, my friends had their favorite players be
Konseko and Maguire and members of the A's.

Speaker 6 (24:50):
I feel like I hear a lot of people say.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
That, yes, and it's during that time because I was
I was eleven, twelve thirteen, Where I thank you. That
is really where your sports passed are. My best friend
when I was young was an A's fan. We went
to because the Brewers were still in the American League.
For a summer vacation. They wanted to go down to
Milwaukee to see the A's because my buddy loved Jose Canseco.

(25:14):
His older sister, who was probably fourteen, had a crush
on Jose Canseco. So they were the draw in the
late nineteen eighties, and there was even success moving on,
and even in the moneyball years. They were a bit
of a topic of conversation. But you talk about the
greatness of the eighties, and then how about the greatness
of the seventies when they were winning. To that point

(25:35):
now just completely no longer relevant.

Speaker 10 (25:38):
They were so relevant in the late eighties early nineties
that they Ricky Henderson became a free agent, one of
the best to ever play the game, and he went
back to the A's in eighty nine. Yeah, eighty nine.
He joined the best team in baseball. They were so
relevant that the top free agent at the time joined

(25:58):
The A's were at the peak of baseball. They only
cashed ten I think one championship in that entire run,
but they were that's a great contribution there. I have
one could I do? Could I throw this in there?
I'm gonna go NHL oh Nashville Predators are the most
irrelevant team in the league. They used to have a

(26:19):
bunch of good skaters and guys that went up against
the boards, and they had a few of those Canadians
and now they've got probably a lot of the same
and no one cares.

Speaker 8 (26:31):
I'm glad you didn't say red Wings, but I feel
like we could throw the Detroit red Wings.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
I was gonna say red Wings, but I wasn't as
versed as their current state. Not great, not great at all.
The Nashville Predators, they did have a playoff run a
couple of years ago. I'll trust you on that. That's it.

Speaker 6 (26:52):
We did get tweeted at Dan by a.

Speaker 12 (26:59):
Dan.

Speaker 6 (27:00):
Were you confused?

Speaker 1 (27:01):
No, no, I know you said Dan, but you did
it at more of a Don.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
We were talking there, so I got Canadian in here.
You got a at Ai by guy tweets at US commanders.
Outside the owner drama, there would be no reason to
have discussed them for the last thirty years. Dolphins a
little relevant now with Tua, but if he doesn't get
a play a deep playoff run, it's going to be
a blip in a long run of nothing since Dan Marino.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yes, yes, completely, but we do talk about Tua a lot.

Speaker 6 (27:33):
We do talk about Tua a lot, but.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
There was a point where they were.

Speaker 6 (27:37):
Just whatever before Tua got there.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yeah. Big D from w WV West Virginia also jumped
in on the commanders. Yeah in Washington with that one.
All right, good job people, it was very good. I
think time flew by. I loved the Louisville call because
it is like they were, they were something else. Take
you back Indiana basket ball could have been, but not

(28:02):
to the depths of where Louisville has fallen. So really,
really good our final call, Tim in Pennsylvania. There's a
lot on the line because you're going to have the
last saying this.

Speaker 7 (28:13):
And what I want to bring up is the cyclical
miss of baseball. Let's go way back. You were talking
about not being too old for the Oakland teams. How
about the early seventies sal Bando, VIY, the Blue Reggie Jackson.
Those teams were relevant then they weren't than they were
than they are. I'm an oriole fan. I'm hoping that

(28:34):
it has come around in a circle.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Too.

Speaker 7 (28:37):
Very relevant in the seventies and eighties haven't been in
twenty years. Ownership has changed hopefully they're coming back with
a vengeance.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Great guys, have a great day, Thanks Jim. I thought
Tim was going to go Pirates. Yeah, but there there
was a point where Bonds benia Van slike close to
the World Series in nineteen ninety one, and then sid
Bream happened and the Braves go to the World Series.
But yeah, those real good, good nominations. Yeah, the Pirates, man,

(29:11):
it's been a long time for them. I mean, we're
excited in skeens pitches and maybe if they get the
five hundred. But there was there was a time. But
and hey, we are family Pittsburgh Pirates that I don't remember.
And we're also quite the story back then. All right,
let's go to the news desk Isaac Low and cron
giving us the latest of what is happening today. Are
you a Little League World Series fan at all? Isaac?

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Back in nineteen eighty seven or eighty eight, Irvine, California
made the Little League World Series Championship game got destroyed
by Taiwan. I believe they scored twenty one runs in
the first inning. But now Long Beach went back to
back in ninety two and ninety three, they lost to

(29:57):
the I think the Philippines in But the Philippines had
like an older player.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
They could tell because because he had to go to
the game very good.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
And then the next year they wanted on a walk
off opposite field base hit by Jeremy Hess. I remember
it to this day, the late Sean Burrows team. Yes,
he was a star pitcher for that team.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yes, I just remember Irvine because they have been irrelevant since.
So that's why I'm kidding, yeah, kidding.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Bizarre story in college sports. Notre Dame has suspended its
men's swimming program for at least one year after multiple
investigations revealed the swimmers had created an internal gambling sports
book in which they wagered on the outcome of their
races and even created over underlines for their swim times.

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With that in mind, Dan and Manzi, the Fox Sports
Radio imaging department has put together some potential updated lyrics
for the Notre Dame fight song.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Listen, let's give a bad four old Notere Dame.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
I got money on the dude in the second lane
being on swimmings really lame.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Those speedos must be cutting off the bloodhoo their brains.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Everybody, wake up the echoes Oakland.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
A's woke up today.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
They rallied from a five to nothing deficit after three
to beat the Mets seven to six. Brewers over the
Dodgers six to four. In Detroit, four Tiger pitchers combined
to one hit the Mariners two to one. Right now,
the Giants lead the Braves six to nothing in the
bottom of the seventh inning.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Don's Dan and I don't mind, Don, but it was
more like doneh.

Speaker 6 (31:53):
God, my mom says it, oh done.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
That's going to jab Isaac. I knew that that took
some efforts.

Speaker 6 (32:00):
How do you think of that?

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Like that was so sure Wordsmith, it does.

Speaker 6 (32:05):
I'm so impressed.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Even if it stunk, I'd appreciate the effort. But it
was really good. It was really good. Yes, great job,
Isaac Longkros.

Speaker 7 (32:16):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
I was going to open up you know, like we
talked about top golf recently and there's like some baseball
and some ax throwing. I was going to open up
a diving and you know, like entertainment. It was going
to be called dive bar. What do you think about that?
Like you could go you could go there and swim and.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
Die and then you just have drinking and going in
the water, No blind dive bar, get it?

Speaker 10 (32:38):
Yes, I add one more suggestion to that, it'll make
it even better because alliteration always kills Dan's dive bar,
dive bar.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
The dive bar. Who wants to get messed up and
jump off a high dive? Like, that's what you would do?
You would just get friends together.

Speaker 6 (33:00):
Yeah, you are going to have a twenty live guards.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
And insurance, maybe a waiver before.

Speaker 6 (33:08):
You go waiver twenty lifeguard and.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Thought it completely out yet I don't know what the
insurance is gonna be, so just kind of work shopping it.
But sure. Just like half of my games here at
Fox Sports Radio, I think of the title first and
then I just work a game around it. Yeah, dive
bar just worked so well that I just figured I'd
figure out the logistions A diving board or are you
driving off a platform? Still in the works. So yeah,

(33:32):
so there may be a high dive or just maybe
a regular but let us let us have you.

Speaker 6 (33:36):
Get investors for that day.

Speaker 5 (33:38):
Let us.

Speaker 9 (33:39):
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Live a happy Thursday. Thanks for hanging out with us.
The guys who are doing their Dan Patrick hat trick.
Swansea and I have been manning the shop the last

(34:01):
couple of days.

Speaker 6 (34:02):
You did a CNR hat trick.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
I did you did? Yes? Yeah, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursdays carry
roads myself. You were in the newsroom Jiz today side
by side here in for the guys on a Thursday
throwback Thursday, as we talked about the teams that were
once relevant in all of sports that no longer are
today and now Colin Kaepernick may have a path back

(34:27):
to the NFL that coming up right now.

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Speaker 6 (34:42):
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Speaker 1 (34:43):
Should be Jason Stewart's here, Chris purffets our technical producer,
and Isaac Lohincron giving us the latest at the news desk.
He'll be with us at the bottom of the hour,
plus if any news breaks. This was news within the
last twenty four hours that Colin Kaepernick was approached by
his former coach in the NFL, Jim Harbaugh, about joining
the Los Angeles Chargers as an assistant coach. In fact,

(35:05):
Harbaugh telling USA Today that they spoke in January, talked
a little bit about it, and then talks kind of
didn't go anywhere and that was that. But Harbaugh did
say that he believes it believes that Kaepernick would be
a great coach if he ever wanted to be a
head coach, and never really got back to him on

(35:26):
the possibilities of joining Jim Harbaugh staff Colin Kaepernick back
in the NFL as a head coach. He says no,
And I think that there's a reason why he said no,
and it's not because he doesn't want to coach. But Monzi,
I also think it's not because he wants to play again.

(35:49):
And it contradicts the words that he told the Sky
Sports saying, quote, we're still training, still pushing, so hopefully
we've just got to get one of these team owners
to open up. And this is this is a difficult
conversation because when you talk about Colin Kaepernick, that's obviously

(36:11):
a polarizing topic. And while I was sided with Colin
Kaepernick early on I didn't think NFL owners wanted to
bring him in. I didn't think anybody did. I think
they colluded to not bring him in. Maybe seems that way,
but the fact is is NFL owners are not willing
to take certain risks. They just aren't the NBA owners,

(36:34):
maybe more so not NFL owners. And unfortunately, the risk
that they felt that he was taking, whether he sided
with him or didn't side with him, the NFL owners
felt that it wasn't going to be good for their
business at what he could provide for their team. There
was no reason for Colin Kaepernick to not at least
have a tryout six years ago for an NFL team.

(36:56):
There was no reason for that not to happen, to
have a try out, to go work out for a team. Ultimately,
he did go and speak with the Seahawks, talked with
the Baltimore Ravens, never ended up signing with a team.
There was a point where how the workout in Atlanta
was going to show off his skills. Then they had
to change sites and made it very difficult Colin Kaepernick.

(37:18):
Right now, in the best interest of Colin Kaepernick is
to not go back to the NFL in any sort
of capacity. It's better for Colin Kaepernick to say that
I want to still play in the NFL than it
is to actually play in the NFL or actually coach
in the National Football League. He is in a better
spot right now to say, hey, I still want to

(37:39):
get back. Hopefully owners will let me in. What team
is going to sign Colin Kaepernick when he hasn't played
since twenty sixteen. He's going to be thirty seven years
old in December. This ship is so far sailed, but
he allows this narrative to keep out there that he
still wants to play. And if you, I understand not

(38:00):
wanting to cross the line to coach, but if your
own former coach is asking you to coach and not
be the backup quarterback, the one coach that believed in
you that made you the star. If he's asking you
to coach and not be a player, that probably tells
you that your playing career is over.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
Yeah, it's time for him to move on from the
idea that he is going to play because in reality,
like you just said, his skill was not worth the risk,
Because if his skill set was higher, it would have
been worth the risk for some owners.

Speaker 6 (38:32):
But it wasn't at the time. How long ago did
you say this was?

Speaker 1 (38:35):
He hasn't played in an NFL game since twenty sixteen.
It is time twenty sixteen season.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
It really is time to move on, and I actually
think he should if he wants to go back and
work in the NFL in some capacity, he's got to
take this opportunity now, Like, you can't keep pushing things aside,
because then people are really going to just be like,
you know what, forget it. I can't take you seriously
if you're here telling me you still want to play now,
do you want to work in the NFL? Do you
want to help a team out? But in the capacity

(39:04):
of a coach, Like he can't keep doing this because
he's really going to alienate himself more than he already has,
which I thought was unfair the way you know he
was alienated.

Speaker 6 (39:14):
But we've got we have got to move on. I
mentioned it. I mean, like Joe Flacco ruined a lot
of people because all these all these guys now think
they can come off the couch and play.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
Sure, Joe Flacco is responsible for this feeling that maybe
Colin Kaepernick is a feeling right now, but he's got he.

Speaker 6 (39:30):
Has got to move on. There's you're not gonna play
the problem.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
And again, the problem with him moving on is that
it changes the narrative of who Colin Kaepernick is.

Speaker 6 (39:42):
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
I think it completely does. If you were to go
back into the NFL, into the league that you feel
turned its back on you and blackballed you, to go
in as a coach, to wear NFL gear, to wear
that logo, it seems like you are giving up what
you've done. Colin Kaepernick has done a lot lot of good,
a lot of good as Colin Kaepernick, the former NFL

(40:04):
football player. But if you go back across that line
for Colin Kaepernick, I feel like he's giving in. He's
saying right now, he's positioning himself as a guy who
wants to get back into the league, and that's actually
where he has made his most growth. If you will
to be able to do these things, if he goes
back to the NFL in any capacity, even if it

(40:27):
is a player, which doesn't seem right. If he goes
back to the NFL, he is giving into being and
I'm using the air quotes here Colin Kaepernick, because it
is now a different it's not Colin Kaepernick the football player.
It's Colin Kaepernick the person, the activist, everything that comes
with it, and that would be in jeopardy if he
ended up crossing the line and being a head coach

(40:48):
or being a player in the league.

Speaker 4 (40:49):
But the reason I disagree with you is that he
has been trying to get back in the league the
entire time.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
He has appeared that he's tried to get back.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
He has said that, and like he's still saying it,
that he's in shape.

Speaker 6 (40:59):
So he's been willing to cross the line.

Speaker 4 (41:01):
Now, does he think he deserves an X amount of money,
which is why he's never crossed the line.

Speaker 6 (41:05):
That's a separate conversation.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
But to say that if he does it now, he's
giving in to me, he was willing to give in
years ago.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
I think at one point, yes, yeah, I don't think
that's the case now. I think at one point he
wanted to get back into the NFL. There was no
team that would give him an opportunity, and the opportunity
that they may have provided him, whether it be in
Seattle or be in Baltimore, wasn't enough for him to
think that it was worth it. Pete Carroll. I remember saying,

(41:34):
like he's a starter in this league. Like this guy
is a starter in this league. He very well could
have backed up Russell Wilson during that time in Seattle.
Does Colin Kaepernick want to be a backup? Colin Kaepernick
was offered reportedly, and I had been told differently more money,
but was reportedly offered twenty million dollars to join an

(41:55):
alternative football league that played in the spring a few
years ago, because it would have long unched that league.
It was the Alliance League, remember that Alliance Football League.
There were reports that they had offered him twenty million
dollars to play in that league, to be the face
of that league. Twenty million dollars. It's a lot to you,
it's a lot to me. But Colin Kaepernick said no,
did not want to join that league because guess what,

(42:17):
it probably wasn't worth twenty million dollars or the amount
of money that was around him probably would have done
him some good to show look at what I still
can do. Sometimes there's more power in not knowing and
being where you are. And it's I used it. I
used to an analogy that is probably going to be

(42:38):
lost on many people, and I don't watch the show,
but vander Pump Rules had a whole season where the
whole storyline in the finale was how Tom Sandoval cheated
on Ariana and how arian is the victim. You know
who Ariani is because she was on Dancing with the Song,
She's hosting a reality TV show, She's doing all of

(43:00):
these things. Then the next season of vander Pump Rules
that comes along. I love the Housewives, I love New Jersey,
I love Beverly Hills a lot, Larenge County, I love
the Housewives franchise. I don't watch vander Pump Rules, but
I saw enough of promos and clips of people like
when are you going to move on? And instead of
just always bringing up being cheated on, and there's more

(43:21):
power in that. There's more power. So you're Colin Kaepernick.
Being Colin Kaepernick right now is the most powerful position
that you can be in. Being coach Colin Kaepernick is
not as powerful. Being player Colin Kaepernick or saying that
you want to be player Colin Kaepernick is more powerful
than anything. Even though there isn't an NFL team that
is going to give the guy a chance. In his

(43:41):
mid to late thirties that hasn't played since twenty sixteen.
It's just not realistic.

Speaker 6 (43:46):
What is that power? He's not what is the power?

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Because it looks he is still a victim in those eyes.
He listen, it's there's more power to it. Anthony Kim,
a professional golfer that played at live golf now plays
at live golf, disappeared for the PGA Tour because if
he would have played for a decade, he likely would

(44:11):
have lost the insurance policy that he would have cashed in.
So he moved away, and everybody's like, where's Anthony Kim?
Where's Anthony Kim? It was more beneficial for him to
be away and cash in to go and compete in
golf and play. That was the decision that he made.
I'm not comparing it to Colin Kaepernick, but what I'm
saying is the obvious choice is, yeah, why don't you
go out and play professional golfer? Where he was at

(44:31):
the time and there was some stuff going on in
his life that didn't work out, But if he would
have teed it up in any event that everybody wanted
him to tee up in, he would have washed away
whatever insurance money he would have gotten, so it was
more beneficial for him to stay in that position. I
feel like he's more beneficial to stay in this position
now as the quarterback that is still trying to get
into the league, who after missing seven years of NFL football,

(44:54):
is like I want back in.

Speaker 4 (44:56):
No one is right, and so so much time has passed.
I feel like Colin Kaepernick is at a point in
his life where it's like, Okay, do I keep this,
you know, position of Colin Kaepernick, the guy who was
black bald, or do I actually kind of want to
move on from it, reassess what I'm gonna do with
my life moving forward and go coach in the NFL.

(45:18):
I just like, why why would he want to keep this?
This this Colin Kaepernick, the guy who was black bald?

Speaker 6 (45:27):
Like, why would you want that to keep going?

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Because I feel that there's a part of the audience
that will always gravitate to that.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
Okay, So that audience, right is the audience that knows
about it, that lived through it. The new incoming fan base.
They're gonna be like, what might as well become an
NFL coach and.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
Then nobody's gonna know him if he's like the new
fans are not going to understand who he is, right,
so it doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (45:49):
But eventually, you know what I'm saying, those people are
gonna phase out, like that storyline.

Speaker 6 (45:54):
Will phase out.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
So if you want to all I'm saying is if
Colin Kaepernick wants to somehow be back in the NFL,
this is how he has to do it.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
Now.

Speaker 6 (46:02):
If he doesn't, then he needs to just stop saying
that he wants to play it. Then we need to
just like move on from that.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
I think he's more interested in being Colin Kaepernick social
justice pioneer and that's where he is at his highest
Jason Stewart, Executive Producer.

Speaker 10 (46:16):
That's exactly what I was going to say. That's that's
where his business is at. That's where his relevance is at.
There's a large portion of our population that supports him
for that and will continue to do that, and it's
a way for him to keep pushing the cause him
like putting out there that he's going to do a
try out for the Raiders I think a couple of
years ago, and then that whole thing with the Jets

(46:38):
where he wrote a letter to the Jets GM of
saying I'll come and be on your practice squad. That
went nowhere. These are just ways of interjecting himself into
the news so that we could be reminded that Colin
Kaepernick was blackballed by the NFL. Why was he blackbied
by the NFL? Then you google his name, Oh, police brutality.
Then you go down this rabbit hole and figure and

(46:59):
find the call like that is the relevance for him.
He doesn't want to play again, but he wants to
keep poking so that he stays in the news. That's
what this sounds like.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
That's and that was the quote that he when he
said the Sky Sports, We've just got to get one
of these team owners to open up. They're past this
is this is this is old news. He also sued
the league and they ended up, you know, reaching a
settlement on it. So that's probably not the greatest move
for it. But again he had every right to. I

(47:29):
do feel he was blackballed. No one would give him
a tryout. There's five quarterbacks for every team. I know,
five quarterbacks don't make a team. But when you're talking
about tryouts, when you're talking about camps and you're talking
about mini camps, that's five quarterbacks for what thirty two
teams in the NFL one hundred and sixty opportunities and
he wasn't getting one of those. That was complete BS
at the time, it was totally BS by the NFL,

(47:51):
but NFL owners felt it wasn't worth what they termed
a risk. There are people who don't think it was
a risk at all because they're on one side, and
I I agree with that. I know that fans. Some
fans would have a backlash if you would have signed
with their team. I was all for Colin Kaepernick at
that time. But we're also at a different time right now. Realistically,
what player has been away from the league this long

(48:12):
and is saying I'm still trying to get back in
what and at the quarterback position, like you mentioned Joe Flacco,
and you're right, there are people who think, like, hey,
look look at what Joe Flacco can do. And Joe
Flacco and Colin Kaepernick played in that same Super Bowl.
But Joe Flacco is on the couch for less than
a year. He went back into the NFL. He was
playing for the Jets the year prior, so there wasn't

(48:35):
as much rust from a guy who by the way
made his money with his legs, Like that's that's the
reason that made Colin Kaepernick so dangerous as a football player,
is what he could do speed wise. Are no there
are no mobile thirty seven year old quarterbacks in the NFL.
They don't exist. And that's what Colin Kaepernick would be
if you were to play in the NFL this year.

Speaker 4 (48:55):
So he can't keep saying that he's trying to play
in the NFL like it's going to be more of
a every single time. So he's got to move on
from that. That's my whole point. Now, you're right that
he probably shouldn't be a coach, But I'm just saying, like,
if you do want to get back in this league,
this is your way to do it, because you can't
just ride this other train of I'm gonna keep, you know,

(49:18):
practicing and being ready and in shape for when a
team calls me.

Speaker 6 (49:21):
Nobody's calling you. Nobody's gonna call you.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Do you you know the phrase of have your cake
and eat it too? Do you know what it means?
Do you know what the real meaning is? I mean,
it's my understanding and I could be wrong that the
whole meaning of it is you have your cake, and
the cake is beautiful, but as soon as you cut
a piece out of it, it's destroyed. You can see
this beautiful piece of art, So you can have your

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cake and eat it too. In both ways. Well, if
you eat it, it's going to be destroyed, so it's
no longer beautiful. And that's what Colin Kaepernick is saying.
He wants it both ways. Yeah, he wants it to
make it seem like he wants in the NFL, But
really does he want to go there? No, it's not
as good business. But if I let people think that
I want to go there, yeah, that's where it's more

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beneficial for him. David's in Missouri. David, Welcome to Cavino
and Rich here at Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 5 (50:12):
Hey guys, big fan, thank you. When I heard you
guys mention the story about Kaepernick. I honestly think he
would be a good team, a good coach, specifically special teams.
I don't want to be too jokingly, but I think
if he could specifically coach the Victory formation, show those
guys how to take the.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Knee with bo geez David, the jokes, bringing the jokes,
did you scream that one? Jonson is that a taking
a knee? And again and again Colin Kaepernick took a
knee or I had no problem with when Nate Boyer
reached the compromise for with him, hey, instead of just

(50:51):
sitting on the bench for the national anthem, let's take
a knee together. But that was completely miscon construed by
so many and then deemed disrespect. It's a very volatile,
you know situation that David uses. Do you think Terry
and Mississippi can top this? Are we gonna? Are we gonna?
Are we gonna push this out? Terry?

Speaker 12 (51:13):
I don't have any jokes, but I do have some
serious sight. You guys need to have your own show
man you and monkey.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
Thank you, thanks, Terry. I appreciate you all.

Speaker 12 (51:26):
Uh So Colin Kaepernick, I'm a big fan. I think
what he did was right, but I think now he
needs suria just and fortunately I think he's very happy
doing what he's doing. I agree, so social justice warrior.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
Yeah, and he's done a lot of great things. Terry
like like he he does like he does, and he
still can do it. But it's just him trying to
help his own cause by saying, hopefully we can get
some of these NFL owners to open up. They're not
going to. And it's okay if you say you don't
want to coach. If you said, and I want to coach,
I got other things in my life that I want

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that I want to work with that we're making a
lot of gains, We're doing a lot of stuff. We're
doing a lot of good things in communities around this country.
That's where I want to focus at that would that's fine,
that's awesome.

Speaker 4 (52:17):
Well, it's kind of what I'm saying of like you
gotta all right, pick a different lane.

Speaker 6 (52:20):
Now, we've got to move on.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
Yes, that's kind of what I'm saying, whether it's coaching
or not, like we just time has passed, like it's
time to move on.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
I understand exactly what you're saying. I just don't think
Colin Kaepernick agrees with what you're saying, because Colin Kaepernick says,
if I do that, Manzi, then I'm not as important
and I'm not playing the victim role if you will,
or having this giving into the NFL like that would
go away. And I think that he feels that it would.

(52:52):
It would hinder in harm what he is doing or
hurt the value of what he is doing right now.
It is better for him to still say seven eight
years later that he is not allowed back in the
National Football League. That is better for him. That is
what he said the Sky Sports again. We just want
to get one of these team owners to open up.

(53:14):
He didn't even call Jim Harbaugh back again, the coach
that he played for in a Super Bowl wanted him
back in the NFL, not as a player, but as
a coach. If Jim Harbaugh thought Colin Kaepernick would play,
he would say, why don't we sign you as a player,
But he didn't. He says he wants him as a coach.

(53:34):
So what Colin Kaepernick says is, I'm not going to
call you back, but this story is going to get
out there and I'm going to pretend that I now
found this new life that I want to get back
in the NFL. Sorry, that train is way down the tracks.
That time is passed. And to your point is he
should be on that train going on to life past football.
But it doesn't help where he is right now and

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what he thinks is most important in his life. That's
what's so crazy about this