July 3, 2025 • 38 mins
Dan and Aaron in for C&R as they cover all of the angles to the magical night at Dodger Stadium where Clayton Kershaw reached career number 3,000 in strikeouts. Dan and Aaron talk about why pitchers are doing less work at a time when athletes are supposed to be bigger and stronger. Plus, Dan and Aaron talk about the fast, recent popularity of Sophie Cunningham.
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It is July third. Welcome in happy pre independent state
of you.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Erin Torres.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Great to be here, great to be here. Yeah, you know, listen,
it's crazy because you know, for us we're on air,
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of people are on the road right now, if not
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Speaker 5 (00:49):
We're gonna have some fun. Iowa Sam is here hanging out. Hey, guys, Hello,
Iowa Sam.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I am riding that high of that Dodger game last night.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Wow, I'll tell you're not the only one. Jason Stuart
is as well.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Hello Everybunday, And we know Manty Belanos is feeling that
she was there last night.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I'm excited.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
Yeah, all right, welcome in. It is coven Order, It's
here at Fox Sports Radio. Big thanks to the camera
crew as well, Dave Chuck, Paul Smitty and Timmy over there.
Appreciate you guys. Have a great, great extended weekend. Number
three thousand. Clayton Kershaw a member of the three thousand
strikeout club. It was a bit of history and last
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night after the Dodgers coming back and scoring three runs
in the bottom of the ninth to help me in
my survivor pool and help Jason Stewart and his survivor
pool as well. It was a magical night at Dodger
Stadium because it was history and it's now Aaron Torres
being brought into question on how often are we going
to see this history of three thousand strikeouts?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
But we saw it last night with Clayton Kershaw.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
We did.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
It was a special moment. I think what makes it
obviously especially special and maybe this is a little bit
of our bias living here in Los Angeles doing it
with one team, you know, I mean third guy, I
believe ever to do it with one team through three
thousand strikeouts and I think the arc of his career.
You know, obviously young, dynamic superstar into one of the
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best pitchers in baseball. We know about the ups and
downs in October, and I think that even going into
like last year's postseason, I didn't realize how much he
meant to this city and that organization until of course
that parade ends in Dodger Stadium, He's welcome. Do you
realize how long he's been with the organization, You realize
how much he's accomplished, And then, of course maybe the
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greatest accomplishment individually was last night.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
I also like this about Clinton Kershaw getting strikeout three thousand,
and you're going to be hearing it throughout the show.
You're going to hear it in a second. But I
like it because Clayton Kershaw is a good guy. Sure,
And I know that seems like a general sort of
statement and one that may seem a bit phony or
maybe possibly be false, because we don't really know who
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these players are. Because he's been around so much, because
of what we've seen him go through, because we've seen
so much of his career, and you mentioned us being
in southern California, I feel like we do have a
sense of that. Sure, sometimes at some point you understand,
all right, maybe not the greatest dude in the world,
but the guy wins. We've talked about that with many
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different athletes throughout the spectrum, but we've also talked about
other athletes, like we could talk about Clayton Kershaw and
for all intents and purposes, everything that I know, everything
that he's exhibited, what he's done on the field, what
he's done off the field, is a good guy, a
really really good guy, maybe in a two percenters club
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of good guys when it comes to professional athletes. That's
what I also loved last night, was that opportunity for
Clayton Kershaw to be celebrated like that, because we also
honestly don't know on how many times he will be
celebrated again. I think last year's World Series title would
be different if they win it again, even if he
has a role in it.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
This year.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
There was something different about the twenty twenty four championship.
Maybe it was coming off COVID, maybe it was because
of his injury history and whatnot, But you said, just
the response of Clayton Kershaw at the parade and rally,
of the response that he got from told you everything
you needed to know about him as a Dodger. But if,
even if he has a role in it, I think
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there's going to be something different than it was last year.
But last night felt like because it was about him
and him only it wasn't a Dodgers team thing that
the Dodgers fans got an opportunity to celebrate that. I
do want to bring in Manzi and Jason's here as well,
and I was Sam but Monzi was at the ballpark
last night. Was it also Yamamoto Bobblehead night?
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (04:50):
Well, yes, so that's the real reason that I needed
to be there was because of how busy it was
going to be. But then the Clayton Kershaw landing on
three strike away made everything extra crazy. Gates opened early
without them making the announcement because of everyone was in
their seats like when the game started.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I remember looking at.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
The corners of the reserve, like where no one sits
that are always empty. Every seat was pretty much filled
by the start of the game. Because I mean, not
that it was going to happen, but imagine he got
the first three strikeouts in the first seating and you
missed it, right so everybody was in their seats. Everybody
was gasping every single time he had so many two
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strikes on players and then a home run, a triple
of this, Like there were moments where you're like, this
is it, this is it and no, but uh, he
got it.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Can I ask not that I'm interviewing you about last night,
but I am curious about this because he wasn't available
last year in the postseason and he still got the
roar that Aaron talked about when they were celebrating the title.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Did it feel like this.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Is like almost not Clinton kur Appreciation night, but this
could be one of the last opportunities that they can
really show their love to Clayton Kershaw.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Did you have that sense at all?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I did, and you hit it perfectly.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
It's like, I don't exactly know what is going to
happen with Kershaw after this season. He does not seem
like the type to do a farewell tour. I think
he's just gonna announce it and be done. And so
I do think there was a little bit of yes,
we may this would might be our only time to
really tell Kershaw how much we appreciate what he has
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done for eighteen years with the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
And if I can jump in, we're all watching MATSI
were there. It felt like the hug from Dave Roberts
was like a little extra loss. Yes, some of the
individual players, so I, you know, me not being the
baseball guy that you guys all are, I don't think
I had that full thought process. But now thinking back
on the night, it's like, oh, maybe that was kind
of the unofficial goodbye to the eventual goodbye.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Yeah, because even if they win it next year, there's
and I think like last year, there may have been
a bit of like an absence.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
If he's available for them.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
If he's available for them down the stretch, it'll be great,
but it'll still be about the back to back and
it won't necessarily be about him, where last night was
an opportunity for it to be all about him and
then he could make whatever decision that he wants, which
is again, he missed the start of this season, right,
so it takes him a while to get into to action.
And you'd have to think that the three thousand strikeout
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goal is a reason on why you want to come
back and pitch again in addition to getting a ring
in an addition to throwing in the postseason and getting that.
But you know, how many more boxes do you need
to check off the list if you're Clayton Kershaw? There
were very, very few. And I think last night was
a big one.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Yeah it was, Yeah, it was. I just I'm not
and I'll just say this.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
I think for all of us watching we talk about
the Clayton Kershaw aspect of it and what a what
an opportunity it was in final time to say goodbye.
I feel that this narrative of this is the only
time we're gonna see it for a long long time
is a bit misguided. And you want to know why.
And if you don't want to know, I don't worry.
I'm still gonna tell you anyway why.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
I want to know why.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Person, Yeah, Jason, are you interested in this?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I love it. I'm hanging on every word this is.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
This is why because it's only happened twenty times, and
so like the thought of like we're not gonna we're
not gonna see it very often, we don't see it often,
even when there is a string of guys that we
think can do it like this is this is the
twentieth time it's happened in baseball history, and there's a
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majority of the guys in the last forty so years,
I'd maybe say fifty years or so, guys who started
in the late fifties and the nineteen sixties that pitched
into the seventies and eighties. That's where you get a
majority of these twenty strikeout guys. In fact, only one
pitcher had three thousand strikeouts that started his career didn't
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pitch like prior to pitched prior to nineteen fifty nine,
and that was Walter Johnson. So you have this era
where you have like Bob Gibson, Nolan Ryan, Steve Carlton
pitched into the early eighties.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
You have Tom sever some of those older arms. But
then about half the.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
List is made up of names that we all know
and recognize, including Clayton Kershaw, Max Schurzer, Justin Verlander. So
my whole thing is, I understand that the pitching, the
starting pitching role is different than it has been in
the past, but it's not like this was an easily
accessible mark at some point, like only twenty guys have
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gotten it. So to think that there won't be a
unicorn or someone like a Trek Scooble or whoever. Paul
Skeens is the name that's thrown around the most because
he's so young and could possibly do it. Just I
kind of want to pump the brakes on that because
I feel it diminishes the fact that there are only
twenty guys that are I've done this, that have.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Had this accomplishment.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
It's not like there were eighty seven guys and now
nobody has done it for thirty years. Like we've had
guys recently do this, and they've been able to do
it a bit more frequently than say, they did, you know,
sixty seventy years ago, but it's still only twenty guys
in Major League Baseball, and I feel like there's a
little bit almost of like the record of that we'll
never see this again. Well yeah, well we actually have
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only seen it nineteen other times aside from last night.
So that's kind of my takeaway of it is it's
more of like it's a rare feat that we are
kind of trying to normalize to reflect the state of
current baseball, and I just don't necessarily think that that
matches up.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
So that was gonna be. My follow up is you
think if it doesn't happen, it's not because the role
of a starting pitcher or the demands of a starting
pitcher has changed as much as just it doesn't happen
pretty much anytime. Ever. Anyway, I think.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
That I think it also goes in waves.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
Sure, I don't think that we're gonna end up getting
to baseball twenty five years and now from now where
you just have guys pitch one inning and leave.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Like I think like.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
We're in a certain spot right now. Sure we're seeing
arm injuries, but things change, and I think at some
point things could be different, or you can get that uniform,
that unicorn that leads may the Majors and leads the
AL or NL and strikeouts year after year after year.
And that's the one thing that I'm waiting to see.
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Who knows who's going to pitch into their late thirties
and early forties. If Clayton Kershaw is doing it, and
Max Scherzer is doing it, and Justin Verlander's doing it,
who's to say some of these other guys can't necessarily
do it and also reach that mark at some point.
I think it's just easy to say. Now, when you
look at the list and say, well, this is pitching,
this is how pitching's gone, this is how pitching's going.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Well, maybe maybe that's the case.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
You have information now, but if you actually look over
in the past, it's a difficult feat to accomplish, and
the pitching waves that you've seen, I think it's it's
been more up and down than in the past.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Now it makes perfect sense, It makes perfect sense, and
it was a cool moment, a rare moment. Yeah, I
don't know. I guess I do lean towards it's probably
not likely to happen, and I coming into the show
lean more towards it's probably not gonna happen because of
again the changes of the expectations of a starting pitcher.
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But I think you've made me kind of reconsider it
from that perspective as well as it's probably not gonna
happen again anytime soon, simply because it's just a really
hard thing to do.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Manzi.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
I mean, you're being logical here, and it makes sense.
But I do think it's more of the Yeah, it
was rare, as it was, I do think we may
not see it again because of the way pitching has
gone lately, like you have to expect Paul Skeins to
not get injured and miss you know, and then if
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he does get injured, to come back and be as
successful as he was. There's like a lot of factors,
but I think the big factor is pitch. How we
are utilizing starting pitchers right now.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
And that's of course assuming that he pitches like years
exactly years. Yeah, so interesting.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Jason Stewart, you're a baseball officionado, do you think we'll
see three thousand and I'm using the air quotes anytime soon.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I think I was doing the math last night. Right,
if Chris Sale gets healthy and stays healthy, he's got
a shot, he gets a ton of strikeouts and a
short amount of time, he might be the last one.
But I hope he doesn't. I want Kershout to be
kind of the pitcher that closes the door on this.
And I was looking at this last night. So my
entire lifetime, there have been two benchmarks that guaranteed you
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a Hall of Fame induction, three hundred wins and three
thousand strikeouts. Right, there are fewer pictures with three thousand
strikeouts than three hundred wins. I didn't know. That's great.
I didn't know that, So that kind of speaks to
this accomplishment. And to Dan's point, it's it's just it's
so rare. Anyways, it will probably be the last one.
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And I was talking to Ryan Bersching. Are we all
know Ryan? She actually co hosts. He actually co hosts
the Sick podcast the Dodgers owned with Monzy Bonios and
Bill Benson, And I said, I don't think that the
twenty twenty one or twenty twenty two Dodgers would have
done what they did last night. In other words, the
twenty twenty one Dodgers Kershaw would have left without without
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his three thousand k. And he's doing it next week
in Milwaukee and then and the Dodgers would never have
won a game like that. But there's something about the
new Dodgers that meets the moment. Something happened last year,
some some page was turned and maybe it's the show
hey thing. But everything happened last night the way it
was supposed to happen, and that's what kind of made
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it special too. I don't know if the three thousandth
k is as special without the walk off, you know
that it was. It's such a cherry on top of
the cake, you know, well, and it's really funny. So
Jay stew and MATSI can hop in like something happened.
So like obviously Dave Roberts was known as like the
buy the book manager. We stay what happened in the
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play something happened in the playoffs last year? Was it
the clinching game he kept somebody in or he took
somebody out earlier where it was like, oh, he has
never done this before.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
And I don't know if it was in that moment
or since that moment that to your point, it's like, yes,
we understand the analytics of it's better to take him
out after this time as opposed to this time, but
it is this is a unique situation. I'm just curious,
Like it does feel like I don't know if it
was during the playoff run or because they won the
World Series, but it just does feel like something's a
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little bit different.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
There, absolutely different. And Dave Roberts, to his credit last night,
and I'm sorry I didn't even hear him afterwards talk
about it, but I'm guessing he was thinking, I have
what a thirty eight year old pitcher and I are
however old he is. He's thrown ninety one pitches. He's
gotta be gassed. He did have his stuff all night. Yeah,
watch him anyways. Yeah, and it's like it would have
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been so easy to take him out. I think most
of the people watching the game thought he was going
to take him out. So what's surprised all of us
that he brought him out? And thank god he did.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
Yes, absolutely, I think everybody gasped and cheered when he
came back out for that final sixth inning.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
I liked him in that spot. I really did.
Speaker 6 (16:21):
And yeah, Dave Roberts, like he really did make. It
wasn't one move, Aaron, because of the numerous pitchers that
we had on il the moves that he made, it
wasn't one too. He made a lot of really good
moves which he maybe had not in the past.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
I just remember, as a guy who admittedly is a
casual baseball fan but was also critical of being two
by the books, two analytical in previous World Series runs,
I remember being impressed by him, like I am like
an old school baseball fan of like you go with
the feel of the game, and like it's not to
say that the picture if he doesn't throw one hundred
and twenty pitches. He's not a real man. Like, that's
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not what I'm saying. But like what I am saying is,
you know, we all go back to the famous you know,
Blake Snell, and I know it wasn't the Dodgers remembered
he got taken out like the fifth inning of a
clinching Gay era, you know, losing go home game of
the World Series, and everybody's like, what are we doing?
And I just seem to remember last year it was
the balance of Okay, we understand the analytics and they
are important in our decision making process, but I'm gonna
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go a little bit of feel old school this and that.
So it's just something that I remembered that kind of
played into last night.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Well it's also, you know, to Manzi's point, even though
it was Yamamoto babblehead night, Kershaw's next start is scheduled
to be in Milwaukee.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
You know, do you wanna do you want?
Speaker 5 (17:32):
I mean, he could give up nineteen runs in that inning,
but if you know, if he was gonna get he
was gonna get that strikeout at some point, just leave
him on, leave him out there? Can I quick, just
go back to just the numbers sort of thing, because
this is the as I look at these numbers, Randy
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Johnson absurd right there. So Randy Johnson's second all time
in strikeouts through about twelve hundred, in less than Nolan Ryan,
and his only nine hundred strikeouts shy of him all time.
So Randy Johnson was leading the league in strikeouts in
the late nineties and early two thousands with three hundred
and sixty four three hundred and seventy two, three hundred
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and thirty four strikeouts. To Jason's point about Chris Sale,
Chris Sale has led the league strikeouts before, but only
once in his careers he thrown three hundred or more strikeouts.
So the question becomes, I think, is longevity. Yeah, so
if you're a pitcher like Spencer Strider at two hundred
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and eighty strikeouts a couple of years ago, it's best
in the National League. He underwent Tommy John surgery. I
know he's not having the greatest year this year, but
you would have to think that Spencer Strider's career is
going to last long. I think that's the true test
of time. If you consistently can be there for your team,
which again is a huge ask because again, only twenty
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guys have done it. It's not necessarily just the power pitch.
I don't think it's necessarily the new way of baseball
because you're not playing the new way of.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Baseball with your horses.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
I think it's just it's maybe different early in Schemes's
career because you're trying to all right, let's not burn
him out so quickly. But at some point he's going
to carry a load that's like a Garrett Cole workload,
who again could be close as well. He's got his
own arm injuries and Tommy John surgery to deal with.
But like to sit there and say, like, we're never
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going to see this again, it's tough to say because
you don't know if a twenty two year old's going
to pitch fifteen years in the majors, you know what
I mean. So, and that's just where I go with
this of like, we want to make these these proclamations
about the state of pitching in the Major League Baseball,
most of which are true, But there are different types
of guys out there, and those are the guys that
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could be number twenty one or twenty.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Two well, and I think to your point earlier, sports
are cyclical, and like the reference you made about the
run game, right, it was like five years ago. You
can't draft are running back in the first round. It's
the dumbest thing you've ever done. It's like, who are
the two most valuable players in the league last year?
I know who won the award, but it was probably
Saquon Barkley and Derrick Henry.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
You know.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
It's like basketball, Oh, death of the Center. I don't know.
I watched Joe Yo Kitchen the playoffs this year. He's
pretty good, you know, And it's like, so, you know,
I don't know, you know, I don't know when it
would happen, or how it would happen, or what the
circumstances would be. Where pitchers just in general are kind
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of given a longer leash. Maybe maybe at some point
the analytics back up that you don't need to pull
him after you know, seventy five eighty eighty five pitches whatever.
But to your point, and I do think it is
an important one, is sports are cyclical, and even just
in the time that we've been doing this, how many
things are are etched in stone as certainty. Again, run game.
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It's dead. The center it's dead. The SEC is definitively
better than the Big Ten in college football. Well, you
know it's a cyclical. All of a sudden, we have
back to back Big Ten champions. So I think that's
an interesting point as well, is that I think we
do get caught up in a moment too much, and
sometimes things do kind of revert back to things that
we're not necessarily expecting.
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And now it's time for our ti Iraq Play of
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Speaker 5 (21:38):
Strike three clowd is Big count over with a slider.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
Strike out number three thousand for Clayton Kushaw history at
Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
They will stop the game.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Crusha touffing his cap to the crowd.
Speaker 7 (21:57):
This adoring crowd here at Dodger Stadium as Clayton Kershaw
enters the three thousand club, just the twentieth member and
only the fourth left hand or in the history of
the game, with three thousand strikeouts, every one of them
coming in a Dodger uniform.
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Speaker 5 (22:31):
It was a Hollywood night last night for the Dodgers
and Clayton Kershaw getting strikeout number three thousand. He's our
a Torres. I'm Dan Pyre. We are in for the
guys who are in for Dan Patrick earlier today. Mantey
Belanios will have an update for us in about sixty
seconds or so. Jason Stewart's the executive producer in Iowa.
Sam hanging out. We're all having a good time. I
just want to say one more thing about the strikeout stuff.
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Do it because Aaron I don't want to make it
so convoluted in messy. Every pitcher has a chance to
throw three thousand strikeouts in his career right.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Surely there is a.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Small part, and that's part of my argument. There's only
twenty guys who have done it, and there are may
be only so many that were ever capable of doing so,
because a number two or number three starter just isn't
that they're not going to get to that point. But
we're talking about the number one starters and the aces
and the cy Young Award winners like Paul Skeens could
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be someday. And I think Skeens is the perfect example
because if you look at what Skeens has done this year,
he's thrown anywhere from between eighty five to one hundred
and five pitches in every one of his starts. Because
they've all been really good starts. He hasn't needed to
be pulled through a four hitning game in Milwaukee recently.
That was the shortest outing of the season. But other
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than that, he's been really, really good. He's probably going
to throw two hundred innings this year. He'll top two
hundred strikeouts, about a strikeout per inning. He just turned
twenty three years old. Clayton Kershaw's what thirty seven years old?
Justin Verlanders forty two Max Scherzers forty. So Paul Skeens,
we have eighteen years of pitching in front of him,
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and all.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
You have to do.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
And it makes it sound simple, But of those eighteen years,
if ten of those years you have two hundred strikeouts,
you're already at two thousand, okay, and then you maybe
have a couple more of two point fifty. Now you're
at twenty five hundred and twenty six hundred. That's who
we're talking about. So there's only a selected group of players.
But to say that that select group is unable to
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do it because of the current pitching style in Major
League Baseball or how we look at pitching, I just
don't think it's correct because I think it was just
such a rare class anyway, But someone likes Skeens, a
young pitcher like that, could have the ability to do So.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Okay, I want to ask you a very random question
that is tied into this. Okay, So you reference like longevity,
and I'm curious do you think like so we all
we seen across sport, right, Like, obviously Tom Brady did
things into his forties that no one's ever done. Lebron,
for all the criticism, played very well into his forties,
(25:09):
we'll see what his future is. I guess my question
is I think we default too, like, well, I mean,
look at how much this has changed and that has changed,
and guys can just play into their forties now, and
it's like then you actually watch the NFL and it's like, oh,
Aaron Rodgers isn't even a shell of what he was
like four years ago. And so I guess the question
(25:31):
that I'm asking, and it does pertain to this, because
I think there's two sides to this is like, there's
the default of well, the technology is getting better, and
the treatments are getting better, and the travels better and
the nutrition's better, so everyone is going to be able
to stay at a higher level longer. But then I
also think there's the inverse of that, which is that
(25:52):
basically there's an exception to every rule, and the exception
makes the rule of a Tom Brady of a Lebron James.
And I'm just curious, like just like, and Kershaw's not
a good example of this necessarily, but I think it's
an interesting conversation in sports in general, if that makes sense.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
And I I'll say this to that, like, Kershaw's meaningful
baseball because of the injuries over the last couple of years,
it hasn't been there. But that doesn't that doesn't that
like that didn't matter last night. Like he may have
meaning meaningful baseball for him coming up this postseason, but
it's like last night was the opportunity to honor and
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really recognize all that he has done in his career
and make.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
It his his own nights.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
You don't have to be necessarily even on the top
of your game like an Aaron Rodgers would be for
the Pittsburgh Steelers or for the New York Jets, because
it I think it validates.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Everything that you did during the prime of your career. Yeah,
I am. I answering what you're part of.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
It was more of an abstract question. And I just
think that we default too because and I think it
ties into the Kershaw conversation of I think we default
to well, guys are just gonna be able to play
longer because you know, the tech again, the nutrition's better
and the health is better and whatever. And I don't
think that we can just default to well because Tom
Brady played till he was forty five and was basically
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awesome till his last year that like everyone is now
going to be able to play in their forties, because
I think we have two pretty good examples of all
time talents in Breeze and Rogers, who fell off pretty
quickly once they got to the thirty eight thirty nine
to forty range.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
But I would also say that they're like, there's there's
not a lot of Jamie Moyer's around major League Baseball anymore, right,
like gots you just like they hung around, they were
good pictures. You could always rely on them, and they're
gonna throw Like instead of having Jamie Moyer, why not
just bring up the twenty four year old kid right
that throws heat or however you want to do it.
(27:54):
And that's why I think, like with like these rules
for these special young talented arms are different from everyone else,
and you're just like you want to protect Paul Skin.
So the Pirates limit his innings last year, but still
he just turned twenty three. He's got a heavier workload
this time around, and at some point during his career
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when he's twenty eight, twenty nine to thirty, he should
be able to handle that sort of workload where you're
not babying him and when he's making the millions upon
millions and maybe half a billion dollars when he gets
his next contract. It's you're gonna expect that sort of workload. Now,
will that wear him out or not? A different story,
(28:36):
But yeah, I think that maybe that'll help you know
the players to your point of just things getting better
and allowing guys to do so, maybe we're playing at
a higher level.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
I'm not sure, but I do find the whole deal fascinating.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Now, let's sake that fascinating ahead.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
Yeah, let's jump over to Monte Milanios. She's at the
news desk giving us the latest. Then we're going to
hear from the WNBA's latest souper stars. She's our superstar, Matzi,
what's going on?
Speaker 6 (29:02):
I had to check Paul Skeins's strikeouts for last year
because yes, like if you think two hundred, you know
a season, it'll it'll get him there. So last year
he had one hundred and seventy strikeouts and right now
he has one hundred and fifteen, so something to and we're.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Halfway through the season.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Yes, yes, if he continues.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
The Pirates probably won't be in it at the end.
They airplaying better baseball right now. But he's he's probably
gonna gets through, gonna throw about two hundred and eight
inches this year, still have about two hundred strikeouts.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah, so he're right, he can get there.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
He can get there.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Or as those all about this and you you know,
get that Vcu Butler Final four, even if your Huskies
win it, Like that's what's happening at Wimbledon.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
One of the all time great Dan Bayer takes the
difference in grass at Wimbledon between day one and day seventeen.
D Now you're like, it's one of my favorite SATs
in sports, the grass at Wimbledon on day one. Yeah,
and then it's all downhill from there.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
And I brought it up earlier this week.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
So just so yes, absolutely, just I know I do
it every single year because it is my favorite part.
It looks magnificent. By the way, it's mancy that that
call because of curfew number one. It's one of the
reasons why I love Wimbledon. They're like, yeah, tough beans,
got to shut it down. But it's like the rain
out when it doesn't rain, Like you don't want to
start the game because you don't want to throw the
pitchers out there, have them throw two innings and then
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call the game and not be able to finish it.
But there are times where are like, you know what,
we're not going to play today, We'll just play a
doubleheader tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
And then the rain never came and teams are like,
why didn't we play? That's kind of where I think
Wimbledon is. Maybe they could continue, but I read that.
Speaker 6 (30:43):
The curfew was eleven and y local time it was
nine thirty.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
I know since like the whole Yeah, no, I would
have been mad. I would have been mad.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
I would have lost it. I would have gone out swinging.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
Hit her up at Manzi Milanos. Find Aaron at Aaron
Underscore Tores. You can find me at dan byer On.
I mentioned the WNBA's newest star had something to say.
Sophie Cunningham has had a lot of good will come
her way, but she was in some hot water recently.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
We're gonna hear from her in a bit.
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Dan Byer. Jason Stewart's here, as is Mancy Belangios in Iowa,
Sam the WNBA eron Torres. I would argue that the
biggest winner of the season so far has been Sophie
(32:07):
Cunningham of the Indiana Fever. My goodness, her stardom has
absolutely skyrocketed from one gesture of kindness towards her teammate,
and granted I meant shoving another player from another team,
but Sophie Cunningham's spotlight in the WNBA has magnified by
about one hundred for her stricking up for Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
I'm sure she gave that shove to that Connecticut Sun
player for altruistic reasons, and she loves Caitland Clark and
their best friends and whatever. It is kind of amazing, though,
Like you know, I've said this many times, Dany, You've
probably even heard me say. I've probably said it on
something I've done with you. I'm still blown away by
(32:50):
how big Caitlyn Clark is. But I only bring it
up because if you need proof as to how big
Caitlyn Clark is, Sophie Cunningham is arguably the second biggest
player in the league right now from a profile perspective,
strictly because she just stood up for Kitlyn Clark eighteen months.
It could have been anybody eighteen months. All anybody had
(33:13):
to do was be like, you know, she's pretty awesome,
I like her being my teammate, and nobody would do it,
or another player, Oh she's pretty good, I respect her,
and nobody would do it. And all Sophie Cuttingham did
was like hard foul, I'm defending my teammate. And I'll
say this. I mean, we were all calling for someone
to stand up for Caitlyn Clark last year. I'm glad
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it happened, but it is amazing to me that that's
literally all it took to become the second most popular
player in the league. I would argue right now for
people who missed it, Sophie Cunningham's jersey sold out last week,
so it's unbelievable. I have a secondary take that I
want to get to, but I don't want to steal
the whole well spotlight here.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
I was just gonna say she was maybe embroiled in
a bit of a drama from our previous Phoenix and
then recently this week she talked about the WA expansion
and was saying, who really wants to go to Detroit
and Cleveland Now?
Speaker 4 (34:10):
The City of Detroit responded to that.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
The actual Twitter handle for the city of Detroit Cleveland
had their own response, but it was comments that weren't
taken necessarily so well by a lot of people in
those communities. Sophie Cunningham did try to clarify her stance
on what she said earlier this week. Here's the Indiana
Fever forward.
Speaker 9 (34:31):
I know the history behind the WNBA. I know that
both of those cities have had teams of four and
they got us. We rat So I'm thankful for that.
All I was really getting at is like Broadway the
all core lifestyle, and so I think that is really intriguing.
I think Miami's intriguing. That's all I was getting at.
I'm thankful for what they've done for our history of
the sport. I think it'd be fine to kind of
get some teams outside the NBA market. I do think
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there is benefit when you do have an NBA team,
But that's all I was getting in. I think people
totally missed for that situation. I would never speak down
upon middle class, blue collar working people.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
That's where I come from.
Speaker 9 (35:04):
I'm from Missouri. I get, I'm in Indiana, and that's
kind of why I'm hinting at Broadway sounds fun, Sophie,
Miami sounds fun.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
All I was getting so.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
I would just say the last part there, like, I
get she's from Missouri, she plays in Indianapolis. But when
she's saying when she's then comparing it to saying like
this is why we need those other cities, like that's
why that's that's why she's saying they need those other
series in the cities, and the Broadway that she's mentioning
is the Broadway in Nashville, not the one that's in
midtown Manhattan. She's talking about the one in Nashville where
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the arena, at least where the current arena Bridge Stone
Arena is located.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
So that's kind of her take on it. I don't disagree.
I don't disagree with.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
Nashville getting a team because they don't have an NBA team,
and I think that I would really work in that spot.
Cleveland and Detroit did have their opportunities previously. Cleveland disbanded
because nobody wanted to buy the team twenty years ago.
Thing goes back to Caitlin Clark. Now people want, you know,
everybody's applying for a franchise. I don't know if she
necessarily cleared herself up in saying that, but I do
(36:08):
think they missed an opportunity to not go to Nashville
and instead are going to these two cities that already
had franchises.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
In the past.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Well two things. One, I just love how she just
picked like the two biggest party cities in America that
it was clearly like, you know, where we should get teams,
where I want to hang out like you know, which
is fine.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
I don't Camo, like put a team in Camo.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Hey, don't we have a G League team in Mexico City,
So I mean, you know, next best thing.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
The other thing I was gonna say was, and this
is a little bit you know, poo pooing on the WNBA.
But it's like you're about to balance your books for
the first time ever because of Caitlyn Clark. Do we
immediately need to add three more teams? How about we
just keep it with what it is. I you know,
I don't. I don't want to be negative because I
think it's a pretty light, funny story and I think
(36:55):
the topic is Sophie Cunningham. But since you did bring
up expansion, it's like, we don't need more teams, we
just need more Kaitlyn Clark. Can she play for more
than one team? Can she play more than once a day?
I don't ye, but yeah, this.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
Is and this is my thing with because Iowa Sam
thinks that Aleiah Boston and Kitlyn Clark are best friends.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
No, I never said that. I said there's no beef
between them.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
I think that there still is, like this this tension
there and as much as they try to play it
off like there still is. All a Leiah Boston had
to do was stick up for Kitlyn Clark once and
she would probably be getting the same amount of love
from everybody now. Sophie Cunningham is America's darling because she's
stuck up for Kitlyn Clark. That's all a Leiah Boston
had to do as a teammate. She had a year
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and a half to do, so it hasn't done. So
it took the smallest thing. All somebody had to do
is stand up and look at what it did for you,
and I just it's it's such a lost opportunity for
anybody else in the NBA or WNBA, any of the
Fever teammates, same deal. It took somebody new to the
team this year, and she's reaping all the benefits of.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
It really quick. I know we are very short time,
but this clearly proves that the rising Caitlin Clark tide
raises all ships. Right, So this kind of disproves the
theory that like, oh, Caitlin Clark wouldn't be as popular
without Angel Reese. It's like, no, she pretty much would,
because that's a that's kind of a new narrative that's emerging.
I know we don't have much time to discuss, but
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something I was thinking about, so.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
Sure, sure instead of you know, it's kind of not
a Batman and Robins sort of thing, like it helps
her along that way.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
He's there on toiles. I've dan Byer.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
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Speaker 3 (00:19):
All Right, history of the books. We are on the
eve of the fourth of July. That means erin Torres.
It is July third. Welcome in happy pre independent state
of you.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Erin Torres.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Great to be here, great to be here. Yeah, you know, listen,
it's crazy because you know, for us we're on air,
but for so I know how many hundreds of thousands
of people are on the road right now, if not
even more so. Yeah, we're taking till seven eastern. Try
to keep you entertained, try to have some fun along
the way, and.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
We're gonna have some fun. Iowa Sam is here hanging out. Hey, guys, Hello,
Iowa Sam.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I am riding that high of that Dodger game last night.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Wow, I'll tell you're not the only one. Jason Stuart
is as well.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Hello Everybunday, And we know Manty Belanos is feeling that
she was there last night.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I'm excited.
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Appreciate you guys. Have a great, great extended weekend. Number
three thousand. Clayton Kershaw a member of the three thousand
strikeout club. It was a bit of history and last
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night after the Dodgers coming back and scoring three runs
in the bottom of the ninth to help me in
my survivor pool and help Jason Stewart and his survivor
pool as well. It was a magical night at Dodger
Stadium because it was history and it's now Aaron Torres
being brought into question on how often are we going
to see this history of three thousand strikeouts?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
But we saw it last night with Clayton Kershaw.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
We did.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
It was a special moment. I think what makes it
obviously especially special and maybe this is a little bit
of our bias living here in Los Angeles doing it
with one team, you know, I mean third guy, I
believe ever to do it with one team through three
thousand strikeouts and I think the arc of his career.
You know, obviously young, dynamic superstar into one of the
(02:18):
best pitchers in baseball. We know about the ups and
downs in October, and I think that even going into
like last year's postseason, I didn't realize how much he
meant to this city and that organization until of course
that parade ends in Dodger Stadium, He's welcome. Do you
realize how long he's been with the organization, You realize
how much he's accomplished, And then, of course maybe the
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greatest accomplishment individually was last night.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
I also like this about Clinton Kershaw getting strikeout three thousand,
and you're going to be hearing it throughout the show.
You're going to hear it in a second. But I
like it because Clayton Kershaw is a good guy. Sure,
And I know that seems like a general sort of
statement and one that may seem a bit phony or
maybe possibly be false, because we don't really know who
(03:04):
these players are. Because he's been around so much, because
of what we've seen him go through, because we've seen
so much of his career, and you mentioned us being
in southern California, I feel like we do have a
sense of that. Sure, sometimes at some point you understand,
all right, maybe not the greatest dude in the world,
but the guy wins. We've talked about that with many
(03:27):
different athletes throughout the spectrum, but we've also talked about
other athletes, like we could talk about Clayton Kershaw and
for all intents and purposes, everything that I know, everything
that he's exhibited, what he's done on the field, what
he's done off the field, is a good guy, a
really really good guy, maybe in a two percenters club
(03:47):
of good guys when it comes to professional athletes. That's
what I also loved last night, was that opportunity for
Clayton Kershaw to be celebrated like that, because we also
honestly don't know on how many times he will be
celebrated again. I think last year's World Series title would
be different if they win it again, even if he
has a role in it.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
This year.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
There was something different about the twenty twenty four championship.
Maybe it was coming off COVID, maybe it was because
of his injury history and whatnot, But you said, just
the response of Clayton Kershaw at the parade and rally,
of the response that he got from told you everything
you needed to know about him as a Dodger. But if,
even if he has a role in it, I think
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there's going to be something different than it was last year.
But last night felt like because it was about him
and him only it wasn't a Dodgers team thing that
the Dodgers fans got an opportunity to celebrate that. I
do want to bring in Manzi and Jason's here as well,
and I was Sam but Monzi was at the ballpark
last night. Was it also Yamamoto Bobblehead night?
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (04:50):
Well, yes, so that's the real reason that I needed
to be there was because of how busy it was
going to be. But then the Clayton Kershaw landing on
three strike away made everything extra crazy. Gates opened early
without them making the announcement because of everyone was in
their seats like when the game started.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I remember looking at.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
The corners of the reserve, like where no one sits
that are always empty. Every seat was pretty much filled
by the start of the game. Because I mean, not
that it was going to happen, but imagine he got
the first three strikeouts in the first seating and you
missed it, right so everybody was in their seats. Everybody
was gasping every single time he had so many two
(05:32):
strikes on players and then a home run, a triple
of this, Like there were moments where you're like, this
is it, this is it and no, but uh, he
got it.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Can I ask not that I'm interviewing you about last night,
but I am curious about this because he wasn't available
last year in the postseason and he still got the
roar that Aaron talked about when they were celebrating the title.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Did it feel like this.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Is like almost not Clinton kur Appreciation night, but this
could be one of the last opportunities that they can
really show their love to Clayton Kershaw.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Did you have that sense at all?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I did, and you hit it perfectly.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
It's like, I don't exactly know what is going to
happen with Kershaw after this season. He does not seem
like the type to do a farewell tour. I think
he's just gonna announce it and be done. And so
I do think there was a little bit of yes,
we may this would might be our only time to
really tell Kershaw how much we appreciate what he has
(06:31):
done for eighteen years with the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
And if I can jump in, we're all watching MATSI
were there. It felt like the hug from Dave Roberts
was like a little extra loss. Yes, some of the
individual players, so I, you know, me not being the
baseball guy that you guys all are, I don't think
I had that full thought process. But now thinking back
on the night, it's like, oh, maybe that was kind
of the unofficial goodbye to the eventual goodbye.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Yeah, because even if they win it next year, there's
and I think like last year, there may have been
a bit of like an absence.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
If he's available for them.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
If he's available for them down the stretch, it'll be great,
but it'll still be about the back to back and
it won't necessarily be about him, where last night was
an opportunity for it to be all about him and
then he could make whatever decision that he wants, which
is again, he missed the start of this season, right,
so it takes him a while to get into to action.
And you'd have to think that the three thousand strikeout
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goal is a reason on why you want to come
back and pitch again in addition to getting a ring
in an addition to throwing in the postseason and getting that.
But you know, how many more boxes do you need
to check off the list if you're Clayton Kershaw? There
were very, very few. And I think last night was
a big one.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Yeah it was, Yeah, it was. I just I'm not
and I'll just say this.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
I think for all of us watching we talk about
the Clayton Kershaw aspect of it and what a what
an opportunity it was in final time to say goodbye.
I feel that this narrative of this is the only
time we're gonna see it for a long long time
is a bit misguided. And you want to know why.
And if you don't want to know, I don't worry.
I'm still gonna tell you anyway why.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
I want to know why.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Person, Yeah, Jason, are you interested in this?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I love it. I'm hanging on every word this is.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
This is why because it's only happened twenty times, and
so like the thought of like we're not gonna we're
not gonna see it very often, we don't see it often,
even when there is a string of guys that we
think can do it like this is this is the
twentieth time it's happened in baseball history, and there's a
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majority of the guys in the last forty so years,
I'd maybe say fifty years or so, guys who started
in the late fifties and the nineteen sixties that pitched
into the seventies and eighties. That's where you get a
majority of these twenty strikeout guys. In fact, only one
pitcher had three thousand strikeouts that started his career didn't
(09:01):
pitch like prior to pitched prior to nineteen fifty nine,
and that was Walter Johnson. So you have this era
where you have like Bob Gibson, Nolan Ryan, Steve Carlton
pitched into the early eighties.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
You have Tom sever some of those older arms. But
then about half the.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
List is made up of names that we all know
and recognize, including Clayton Kershaw, Max Schurzer, Justin Verlander. So
my whole thing is, I understand that the pitching, the
starting pitching role is different than it has been in
the past, but it's not like this was an easily
accessible mark at some point, like only twenty guys have
(09:41):
gotten it. So to think that there won't be a
unicorn or someone like a Trek Scooble or whoever. Paul
Skeens is the name that's thrown around the most because
he's so young and could possibly do it. Just I
kind of want to pump the brakes on that because
I feel it diminishes the fact that there are only
twenty guys that are I've done this, that have.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Had this accomplishment.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
It's not like there were eighty seven guys and now
nobody has done it for thirty years. Like we've had
guys recently do this, and they've been able to do
it a bit more frequently than say, they did, you know,
sixty seventy years ago, but it's still only twenty guys
in Major League Baseball, and I feel like there's a
little bit almost of like the record of that we'll
never see this again. Well yeah, well we actually have
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only seen it nineteen other times aside from last night.
So that's kind of my takeaway of it is it's
more of like it's a rare feat that we are
kind of trying to normalize to reflect the state of
current baseball, and I just don't necessarily think that that
matches up.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
So that was gonna be. My follow up is you
think if it doesn't happen, it's not because the role
of a starting pitcher or the demands of a starting
pitcher has changed as much as just it doesn't happen
pretty much anytime. Ever. Anyway, I think.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
That I think it also goes in waves.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
Sure, I don't think that we're gonna end up getting
to baseball twenty five years and now from now where
you just have guys pitch one inning and leave.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Like I think like.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
We're in a certain spot right now. Sure we're seeing
arm injuries, but things change, and I think at some
point things could be different, or you can get that uniform,
that unicorn that leads may the Majors and leads the
AL or NL and strikeouts year after year after year.
And that's the one thing that I'm waiting to see.
(11:29):
Who knows who's going to pitch into their late thirties
and early forties. If Clayton Kershaw is doing it, and
Max Scherzer is doing it, and Justin Verlander's doing it,
who's to say some of these other guys can't necessarily
do it and also reach that mark at some point.
I think it's just easy to say. Now, when you
look at the list and say, well, this is pitching,
this is how pitching's gone, this is how pitching's going.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Well, maybe maybe that's the case.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
You have information now, but if you actually look over
in the past, it's a difficult feat to accomplish, and
the pitching waves that you've seen, I think it's it's
been more up and down than in the past.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Now it makes perfect sense, It makes perfect sense, and
it was a cool moment, a rare moment. Yeah, I
don't know. I guess I do lean towards it's probably
not likely to happen, and I coming into the show
lean more towards it's probably not gonna happen because of
again the changes of the expectations of a starting pitcher.
(12:27):
But I think you've made me kind of reconsider it
from that perspective as well as it's probably not gonna
happen again anytime soon, simply because it's just a really
hard thing to do.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Manzi.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
I mean, you're being logical here, and it makes sense.
But I do think it's more of the Yeah, it
was rare, as it was, I do think we may
not see it again because of the way pitching has
gone lately, like you have to expect Paul Skeins to
not get injured and miss you know, and then if
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he does get injured, to come back and be as
successful as he was. There's like a lot of factors,
but I think the big factor is pitch. How we
are utilizing starting pitchers right now.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
And that's of course assuming that he pitches like years
exactly years. Yeah, so interesting.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Jason Stewart, you're a baseball officionado, do you think we'll
see three thousand and I'm using the air quotes anytime soon.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I think I was doing the math last night. Right,
if Chris Sale gets healthy and stays healthy, he's got
a shot, he gets a ton of strikeouts and a
short amount of time, he might be the last one.
But I hope he doesn't. I want Kershout to be
kind of the pitcher that closes the door on this.
And I was looking at this last night. So my
entire lifetime, there have been two benchmarks that guaranteed you
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a Hall of Fame induction, three hundred wins and three
thousand strikeouts. Right, there are fewer pictures with three thousand
strikeouts than three hundred wins. I didn't know. That's great.
I didn't know that, So that kind of speaks to
this accomplishment. And to Dan's point, it's it's just it's
so rare. Anyways, it will probably be the last one.
(14:10):
And I was talking to Ryan Bersching. Are we all
know Ryan? She actually co hosts. He actually co hosts
the Sick podcast the Dodgers owned with Monzy Bonios and
Bill Benson, And I said, I don't think that the
twenty twenty one or twenty twenty two Dodgers would have
done what they did last night. In other words, the
twenty twenty one Dodgers Kershaw would have left without without
(14:31):
his three thousand k. And he's doing it next week
in Milwaukee and then and the Dodgers would never have
won a game like that. But there's something about the
new Dodgers that meets the moment. Something happened last year,
some some page was turned and maybe it's the show
hey thing. But everything happened last night the way it
was supposed to happen, and that's what kind of made
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it special too. I don't know if the three thousandth
k is as special without the walk off, you know
that it was. It's such a cherry on top of
the cake, you know, well, and it's really funny. So
Jay stew and MATSI can hop in like something happened.
So like obviously Dave Roberts was known as like the
buy the book manager. We stay what happened in the
(15:12):
play something happened in the playoffs last year? Was it
the clinching game he kept somebody in or he took
somebody out earlier where it was like, oh, he has
never done this before.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
And I don't know if it was in that moment
or since that moment that to your point, it's like, yes,
we understand the analytics of it's better to take him
out after this time as opposed to this time, but
it is this is a unique situation. I'm just curious,
Like it does feel like I don't know if it
was during the playoff run or because they won the
World Series, but it just does feel like something's a
(15:41):
little bit different.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
There, absolutely different. And Dave Roberts, to his credit last night,
and I'm sorry I didn't even hear him afterwards talk
about it, but I'm guessing he was thinking, I have
what a thirty eight year old pitcher and I are
however old he is. He's thrown ninety one pitches. He's
gotta be gassed. He did have his stuff all night. Yeah,
watch him anyways. Yeah, and it's like it would have
(16:04):
been so easy to take him out. I think most
of the people watching the game thought he was going
to take him out. So what's surprised all of us
that he brought him out? And thank god he did.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
Yes, absolutely, I think everybody gasped and cheered when he
came back out for that final sixth inning.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
I liked him in that spot. I really did.
Speaker 6 (16:21):
And yeah, Dave Roberts, like he really did make. It
wasn't one move, Aaron, because of the numerous pitchers that
we had on il the moves that he made, it
wasn't one too. He made a lot of really good
moves which he maybe had not in the past.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
I just remember, as a guy who admittedly is a
casual baseball fan but was also critical of being two
by the books, two analytical in previous World Series runs,
I remember being impressed by him, like I am like
an old school baseball fan of like you go with
the feel of the game, and like it's not to
say that the picture if he doesn't throw one hundred
and twenty pitches. He's not a real man. Like, that's
(16:57):
not what I'm saying. But like what I am saying is,
you know, we all go back to the famous you know,
Blake Snell, and I know it wasn't the Dodgers remembered
he got taken out like the fifth inning of a
clinching Gay era, you know, losing go home game of
the World Series, and everybody's like, what are we doing?
And I just seem to remember last year it was
the balance of Okay, we understand the analytics and they
are important in our decision making process, but I'm gonna
(17:19):
go a little bit of feel old school this and that.
So it's just something that I remembered that kind of
played into last night.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Well it's also, you know, to Manzi's point, even though
it was Yamamoto babblehead night, Kershaw's next start is scheduled
to be in Milwaukee.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
You know, do you wanna do you want?
Speaker 5 (17:32):
I mean, he could give up nineteen runs in that inning,
but if you know, if he was gonna get he
was gonna get that strikeout at some point, just leave
him on, leave him out there? Can I quick, just
go back to just the numbers sort of thing, because
this is the as I look at these numbers, Randy
(17:52):
Johnson absurd right there. So Randy Johnson's second all time
in strikeouts through about twelve hundred, in less than Nolan Ryan,
and his only nine hundred strikeouts shy of him all time.
So Randy Johnson was leading the league in strikeouts in
the late nineties and early two thousands with three hundred
and sixty four three hundred and seventy two, three hundred
(18:13):
and thirty four strikeouts. To Jason's point about Chris Sale,
Chris Sale has led the league strikeouts before, but only
once in his careers he thrown three hundred or more strikeouts.
So the question becomes, I think, is longevity. Yeah, so
if you're a pitcher like Spencer Strider at two hundred
(18:36):
and eighty strikeouts a couple of years ago, it's best
in the National League. He underwent Tommy John surgery. I
know he's not having the greatest year this year, but
you would have to think that Spencer Strider's career is
going to last long. I think that's the true test
of time. If you consistently can be there for your team,
which again is a huge ask because again, only twenty
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guys have done it. It's not necessarily just the power pitch.
I don't think it's necessarily the new way of baseball
because you're not playing the new way of.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Baseball with your horses.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
I think it's just it's maybe different early in Schemes's
career because you're trying to all right, let's not burn
him out so quickly. But at some point he's going
to carry a load that's like a Garrett Cole workload,
who again could be close as well. He's got his
own arm injuries and Tommy John surgery to deal with.
But like to sit there and say, like, we're never
(19:28):
going to see this again, it's tough to say because
you don't know if a twenty two year old's going
to pitch fifteen years in the majors, you know what
I mean. So, and that's just where I go with
this of like, we want to make these these proclamations
about the state of pitching in the Major League Baseball,
most of which are true, But there are different types
of guys out there, and those are the guys that
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could be number twenty one or twenty.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Two well, and I think to your point earlier, sports
are cyclical, and like the reference you made about the
run game, right, it was like five years ago. You
can't draft are running back in the first round. It's
the dumbest thing you've ever done. It's like, who are
the two most valuable players in the league last year?
I know who won the award, but it was probably
Saquon Barkley and Derrick Henry.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
You know.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
It's like basketball, Oh, death of the Center. I don't know.
I watched Joe Yo Kitchen the playoffs this year. He's
pretty good, you know, And it's like, so, you know,
I don't know, you know, I don't know when it
would happen, or how it would happen, or what the
circumstances would be. Where pitchers just in general are kind
(20:30):
of given a longer leash. Maybe maybe at some point
the analytics back up that you don't need to pull
him after you know, seventy five eighty eighty five pitches whatever.
But to your point, and I do think it is
an important one, is sports are cyclical, and even just
in the time that we've been doing this, how many
things are are etched in stone as certainty. Again, run game.
(20:51):
It's dead. The center it's dead. The SEC is definitively
better than the Big Ten in college football. Well, you
know it's a cyclical. All of a sudden, we have
back to back Big Ten champions. So I think that's
an interesting point as well, is that I think we
do get caught up in a moment too much, and
sometimes things do kind of revert back to things that
we're not necessarily expecting.
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Speaker 7 (21:45):
Strike out number three thousand for Clayton Kushaw history at
Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
They will stop the game.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Crusha touffing his cap to the crowd.
Speaker 7 (21:57):
This adoring crowd here at Dodger Stadium as Clayton Kershaw
enters the three thousand club, just the twentieth member and
only the fourth left hand or in the history of
the game, with three thousand strikeouts, every one of them
coming in a Dodger uniform.
Speaker 8 (22:18):
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Speaker 4 (22:28):
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Speaker 5 (22:31):
It was a Hollywood night last night for the Dodgers
and Clayton Kershaw getting strikeout number three thousand. He's our
a Torres. I'm Dan Pyre. We are in for the
guys who are in for Dan Patrick earlier today. Mantey
Belanios will have an update for us in about sixty
seconds or so. Jason Stewart's the executive producer in Iowa.
Sam hanging out. We're all having a good time. I
just want to say one more thing about the strikeout stuff.
(22:54):
Do it because Aaron I don't want to make it
so convoluted in messy. Every pitcher has a chance to
throw three thousand strikeouts in his career right.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Surely there is a.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Small part, and that's part of my argument. There's only
twenty guys who have done it, and there are may
be only so many that were ever capable of doing so,
because a number two or number three starter just isn't
that they're not going to get to that point. But
we're talking about the number one starters and the aces
and the cy Young Award winners like Paul Skeens could
(23:26):
be someday. And I think Skeens is the perfect example
because if you look at what Skeens has done this year,
he's thrown anywhere from between eighty five to one hundred
and five pitches in every one of his starts. Because
they've all been really good starts. He hasn't needed to
be pulled through a four hitning game in Milwaukee recently.
That was the shortest outing of the season. But other
(23:48):
than that, he's been really, really good. He's probably going
to throw two hundred innings this year. He'll top two
hundred strikeouts, about a strikeout per inning. He just turned
twenty three years old. Clayton Kershaw's what thirty seven years old?
Justin Verlanders forty two Max Scherzers forty. So Paul Skeens,
we have eighteen years of pitching in front of him,
(24:10):
and all.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
You have to do.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
And it makes it sound simple, But of those eighteen years,
if ten of those years you have two hundred strikeouts,
you're already at two thousand, okay, and then you maybe
have a couple more of two point fifty. Now you're
at twenty five hundred and twenty six hundred. That's who
we're talking about. So there's only a selected group of players.
But to say that that select group is unable to
(24:33):
do it because of the current pitching style in Major
League Baseball or how we look at pitching, I just
don't think it's correct because I think it was just
such a rare class anyway, But someone likes Skeens, a
young pitcher like that, could have the ability to do So.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Okay, I want to ask you a very random question
that is tied into this. Okay, So you reference like longevity,
and I'm curious do you think like so we all
we seen across sport, right, Like, obviously Tom Brady did
things into his forties that no one's ever done. Lebron,
for all the criticism, played very well into his forties,
(25:09):
we'll see what his future is. I guess my question
is I think we default too, like, well, I mean,
look at how much this has changed and that has changed,
and guys can just play into their forties now, and
it's like then you actually watch the NFL and it's like, oh,
Aaron Rodgers isn't even a shell of what he was
like four years ago. And so I guess the question
(25:31):
that I'm asking, and it does pertain to this, because
I think there's two sides to this is like, there's
the default of well, the technology is getting better, and
the treatments are getting better, and the travels better and
the nutrition's better, so everyone is going to be able
to stay at a higher level longer. But then I
also think there's the inverse of that, which is that
(25:52):
basically there's an exception to every rule, and the exception
makes the rule of a Tom Brady of a Lebron James.
And I'm just curious, like just like, and Kershaw's not
a good example of this necessarily, but I think it's
an interesting conversation in sports in general, if that makes sense.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
And I I'll say this to that, like, Kershaw's meaningful
baseball because of the injuries over the last couple of years,
it hasn't been there. But that doesn't that doesn't that
like that didn't matter last night. Like he may have
meaning meaningful baseball for him coming up this postseason, but
it's like last night was the opportunity to honor and
(26:32):
really recognize all that he has done in his career
and make.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
It his his own nights.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
You don't have to be necessarily even on the top
of your game like an Aaron Rodgers would be for
the Pittsburgh Steelers or for the New York Jets, because
it I think it validates.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Everything that you did during the prime of your career. Yeah,
I am. I answering what you're part of.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
It was more of an abstract question. And I just
think that we default too because and I think it
ties into the Kershaw conversation of I think we default
to well, guys are just gonna be able to play
longer because you know, the tech again, the nutrition's better
and the health is better and whatever. And I don't
think that we can just default to well because Tom
Brady played till he was forty five and was basically
(27:20):
awesome till his last year that like everyone is now
going to be able to play in their forties, because
I think we have two pretty good examples of all
time talents in Breeze and Rogers, who fell off pretty
quickly once they got to the thirty eight thirty nine
to forty range.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
But I would also say that they're like, there's there's
not a lot of Jamie Moyer's around major League Baseball anymore, right,
like gots you just like they hung around, they were
good pictures. You could always rely on them, and they're
gonna throw Like instead of having Jamie Moyer, why not
just bring up the twenty four year old kid right
that throws heat or however you want to do it.
(27:54):
And that's why I think, like with like these rules
for these special young talented arms are different from everyone else,
and you're just like you want to protect Paul Skin.
So the Pirates limit his innings last year, but still
he just turned twenty three. He's got a heavier workload
this time around, and at some point during his career
(28:15):
when he's twenty eight, twenty nine to thirty, he should
be able to handle that sort of workload where you're
not babying him and when he's making the millions upon
millions and maybe half a billion dollars when he gets
his next contract. It's you're gonna expect that sort of workload. Now,
will that wear him out or not? A different story,
(28:36):
But yeah, I think that maybe that'll help you know
the players to your point of just things getting better
and allowing guys to do so, maybe we're playing at
a higher level.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
I'm not sure, but I do find the whole deal fascinating.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Now, let's sake that fascinating ahead.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
Yeah, let's jump over to Monte Milanios. She's at the
news desk giving us the latest. Then we're going to
hear from the WNBA's latest souper stars. She's our superstar, Matzi,
what's going on?
Speaker 6 (29:02):
I had to check Paul Skeins's strikeouts for last year
because yes, like if you think two hundred, you know
a season, it'll it'll get him there. So last year
he had one hundred and seventy strikeouts and right now
he has one hundred and fifteen, so something to and we're.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Halfway through the season.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Yes, yes, if he continues.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
The Pirates probably won't be in it at the end.
They airplaying better baseball right now. But he's he's probably
gonna gets through, gonna throw about two hundred and eight
inches this year, still have about two hundred strikeouts.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah, so he're right, he can get there.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
He can get there.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Or as those all about this and you you know,
get that Vcu Butler Final four, even if your Huskies
win it, Like that's what's happening at Wimbledon.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
One of the all time great Dan Bayer takes the
difference in grass at Wimbledon between day one and day seventeen.
D Now you're like, it's one of my favorite SATs
in sports, the grass at Wimbledon on day one. Yeah,
and then it's all downhill from there.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
And I brought it up earlier this week.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
So just so yes, absolutely, just I know I do
it every single year because it is my favorite part.
It looks magnificent. By the way, it's mancy that that
call because of curfew number one. It's one of the
reasons why I love Wimbledon. They're like, yeah, tough beans,
got to shut it down. But it's like the rain
out when it doesn't rain, Like you don't want to
start the game because you don't want to throw the
pitchers out there, have them throw two innings and then
(30:28):
call the game and not be able to finish it.
But there are times where are like, you know what,
we're not going to play today, We'll just play a
doubleheader tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
And then the rain never came and teams are like,
why didn't we play? That's kind of where I think
Wimbledon is. Maybe they could continue, but I read that.
Speaker 6 (30:43):
The curfew was eleven and y local time it was
nine thirty.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
I know since like the whole Yeah, no, I would
have been mad. I would have been mad.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
I would have lost it. I would have gone out swinging.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
Hit her up at Manzi Milanos. Find Aaron at Aaron
Underscore Tores. You can find me at dan byer On.
I mentioned the WNBA's newest star had something to say.
Sophie Cunningham has had a lot of good will come
her way, but she was in some hot water recently.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
We're gonna hear from her in a bit.
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Speaker 5 (31:46):
It's Covino and Rich here on Fox Sports Radio. Later
out on the show, we get to maybe the most
overblown story in the NBA. He is aeron Torres. I'm
Dan Byer. Jason Stewart's here, as is Mancy Belangios in Iowa,
Sam the WNBA eron Torres. I would argue that the
biggest winner of the season so far has been Sophie
(32:07):
Cunningham of the Indiana Fever. My goodness, her stardom has
absolutely skyrocketed from one gesture of kindness towards her teammate,
and granted I meant shoving another player from another team,
but Sophie Cunningham's spotlight in the WNBA has magnified by
about one hundred for her stricking up for Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
I'm sure she gave that shove to that Connecticut Sun
player for altruistic reasons, and she loves Caitland Clark and
their best friends and whatever. It is kind of amazing, though,
Like you know, I've said this many times, Dany, You've
probably even heard me say. I've probably said it on
something I've done with you. I'm still blown away by
(32:50):
how big Caitlyn Clark is. But I only bring it
up because if you need proof as to how big
Caitlyn Clark is, Sophie Cunningham is arguably the second biggest
player in the league right now from a profile perspective,
strictly because she just stood up for Kitlyn Clark eighteen months.
It could have been anybody eighteen months. All anybody had
(33:13):
to do was be like, you know, she's pretty awesome,
I like her being my teammate, and nobody would do it,
or another player, Oh she's pretty good, I respect her,
and nobody would do it. And all Sophie Cuttingham did
was like hard foul, I'm defending my teammate. And I'll
say this. I mean, we were all calling for someone
to stand up for Caitlyn Clark last year. I'm glad
(33:34):
it happened, but it is amazing to me that that's
literally all it took to become the second most popular
player in the league. I would argue right now for
people who missed it, Sophie Cunningham's jersey sold out last week,
so it's unbelievable. I have a secondary take that I
want to get to, but I don't want to steal
the whole well spotlight here.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
I was just gonna say she was maybe embroiled in
a bit of a drama from our previous Phoenix and
then recently this week she talked about the WA expansion
and was saying, who really wants to go to Detroit
and Cleveland Now?
Speaker 4 (34:10):
The City of Detroit responded to that.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
The actual Twitter handle for the city of Detroit Cleveland
had their own response, but it was comments that weren't
taken necessarily so well by a lot of people in
those communities. Sophie Cunningham did try to clarify her stance
on what she said earlier this week. Here's the Indiana
Fever forward.
Speaker 9 (34:31):
I know the history behind the WNBA. I know that
both of those cities have had teams of four and
they got us. We rat So I'm thankful for that.
All I was really getting at is like Broadway the
all core lifestyle, and so I think that is really intriguing.
I think Miami's intriguing. That's all I was getting at.
I'm thankful for what they've done for our history of
the sport. I think it'd be fine to kind of
get some teams outside the NBA market. I do think
(34:53):
there is benefit when you do have an NBA team,
But that's all I was getting in. I think people
totally missed for that situation. I would never speak down
upon middle class, blue collar working people.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
That's where I come from.
Speaker 9 (35:04):
I'm from Missouri. I get, I'm in Indiana, and that's
kind of why I'm hinting at Broadway sounds fun, Sophie,
Miami sounds fun.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
All I was getting so.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
I would just say the last part there, like, I
get she's from Missouri, she plays in Indianapolis. But when
she's saying when she's then comparing it to saying like
this is why we need those other cities, like that's
why that's that's why she's saying they need those other
series in the cities, and the Broadway that she's mentioning
is the Broadway in Nashville, not the one that's in
midtown Manhattan. She's talking about the one in Nashville where
(35:38):
the arena, at least where the current arena Bridge Stone
Arena is located.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
So that's kind of her take on it. I don't disagree.
I don't disagree with.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
Nashville getting a team because they don't have an NBA team,
and I think that I would really work in that spot.
Cleveland and Detroit did have their opportunities previously. Cleveland disbanded
because nobody wanted to buy the team twenty years ago.
Thing goes back to Caitlin Clark. Now people want, you know,
everybody's applying for a franchise. I don't know if she
necessarily cleared herself up in saying that, but I do
(36:08):
think they missed an opportunity to not go to Nashville
and instead are going to these two cities that already
had franchises.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
In the past.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Well two things. One, I just love how she just
picked like the two biggest party cities in America that
it was clearly like, you know, where we should get teams,
where I want to hang out like you know, which
is fine.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
I don't Camo, like put a team in Camo.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Hey, don't we have a G League team in Mexico City,
So I mean, you know, next best thing.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
The other thing I was gonna say was, and this
is a little bit you know, poo pooing on the WNBA.
But it's like you're about to balance your books for
the first time ever because of Caitlyn Clark. Do we
immediately need to add three more teams? How about we
just keep it with what it is. I you know,
I don't. I don't want to be negative because I
think it's a pretty light, funny story and I think
(36:55):
the topic is Sophie Cunningham. But since you did bring
up expansion, it's like, we don't need more teams, we
just need more Kaitlyn Clark. Can she play for more
than one team? Can she play more than once a day?
I don't ye, but yeah, this.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
Is and this is my thing with because Iowa Sam
thinks that Aleiah Boston and Kitlyn Clark are best friends.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
No, I never said that. I said there's no beef
between them.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
I think that there still is, like this this tension
there and as much as they try to play it
off like there still is. All a Leiah Boston had
to do was stick up for Kitlyn Clark once and
she would probably be getting the same amount of love
from everybody now. Sophie Cunningham is America's darling because she's
stuck up for Kitlyn Clark. That's all a Leiah Boston
had to do as a teammate. She had a year
(37:36):
and a half to do, so it hasn't done. So
it took the smallest thing. All somebody had to do
is stand up and look at what it did for you,
and I just it's it's such a lost opportunity for
anybody else in the NBA or WNBA, any of the
Fever teammates, same deal. It took somebody new to the
team this year, and she's reaping all the benefits of.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
It really quick. I know we are very short time,
but this clearly proves that the rising Caitlin Clark tide
raises all ships. Right, So this kind of disproves the
theory that like, oh, Caitlin Clark wouldn't be as popular
without Angel Reese. It's like, no, she pretty much would,
because that's a that's kind of a new narrative that's emerging.
I know we don't have much time to discuss, but
(38:18):
something I was thinking about, so.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
Sure, sure instead of you know, it's kind of not
a Batman and Robins sort of thing, like it helps
her along that way.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
He's there on toiles. I've dan Byer.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
We're in for Cavino and Rich here on Fox Sports
Radio College hoops in the women's side, missus Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Who else do we miss? That's next
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