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Covino & Rich say it's good to get fired sometimes so you can be humbled! They share some personal stories. Luka gets the last laugh. Belichick answers questions about the Giants open job. Jon Gruden has some strong thoughts on TNF, & they discuss failed experiments in sports. Plus, 'SHAQ DEISEL TRIVIA,' John Candy/football, Mr. Freeze in Atlanta & Mr. Cheese in Texas!

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 1 (00:22):
What's that buddy boy?

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Rich is wearing a cowboy outfit like he's cowboy Curtis,
he's pee Wee Herman. At the rodeo.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Yesterday, I was wearing my my worst vest hat. I
bumped into my pal you might have heard of him,
an arch Manning, and he gave me this sweet ut hat.
Should I rock this today? Oh?

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yeah, rock that if it fits your size eight and
a half noggin. No it doesn't, see, of course it
does it. Covino and Rich the rest of us here
in Los Angeles live from the Fox Sports Radio studio,
and like we always do, we be rocking out. Let's go, yeah,
buddy boy, let's get into it. It's a Taco Tuesday night,

(00:59):
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(01:20):
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(01:41):
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Speaker 1 (01:47):
Dude, I'm in Austin. I'm about five hours away from
the firing of Nico Harrison, which we're gonna kick the
show off with in a second, because we have a
theory about getting fired.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
H Dude, I'm just thankful to have a job.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Man, getting the old Vince McMahon Trump, you're fired, You're
fire like so I mean, we have a theory on this,
but I gotta say one more time you look at
this ut hat, is there not a sleeker, tighter logo
than that?

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Though definitely tight on your head, but yes, it's a
very sweet looking, fresh and clean, very crispy, crispity crunchity
nice hat. And if you miss any of today's show,
remember Coveno and Rich. Wherever you get your podcasts, rate
us five stars because anything less is uncivilized. You can
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(02:35):
around for Shack Diesel. Whack Diesel. Now, very thankful to
be here, Rich, you know why, because I've been humbled before,
We've been humbled.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Can I start the show also by saying, we salute
our veterans on Veterans Day, everyone that served our country.
Why you think I'm wearing an army shout? First?

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Why you think I'm wearing army green? Why do you
think I'm wearing this bracelet here made by Army trunks
right there, the gun metal I'm a Roccan. It absolutely
saluting the troops. And for those about the rock, I
salute you, thank you, guys, but all the troops. Shout
out to my brother in law who's in the Air Force,
my brother in law Clayton Marines, Army, Navy. Thank you

(03:16):
guys for all your service. Rich is right man. Hope
you guys enjoyed your day, enjoy the week.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Shout out to our video guy Spot who loves the
song in the Navy.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah he does, Yes, he does. In fact, he's dancing
to it right now. So Yes, Happy Veterans Day. I
hope the kiddos had a nice day off and we
salute anyone who served our country. Oh man, I don't
know if I could have ever done that. So that's
why we do the best we can here on Fox
Sports Radio. Thank you guys for doing it for us.
And again it goes back to what I said before

(03:46):
about being thankful and grateful to have a job because
nothing's guaranteed in life. And that's what I've learned through
years of ups and downs. Now Rich and I have
been very fortunate to work together for over twenty years,
but there's never been a guarantee. Needs to get nice
long contracts, and that was like year to year and
you're always on like the edge of your seat. Wonder
if you're gonna get signed again. It's not a fun

(04:07):
life to live. COVID changed everything. People lost jobs, People
go through jobs now way more than they did. And
our parents come up and our grandparents come up rich.
We talk about it all the time. Your grandfather probably
worked for the same company's entire life. He worked for
con Edison in Queens, New York for you know, forty
to fifty years and got to watch and retired like

(04:29):
that was the old guy routine, that that was the blueprint.
Now people are job hopping. It's a different world.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
But cause you know what, I have a theory when
we want to get into and it has to do
with the Nico Harrison firing yesterday, of course, Brian Dable,
I feel like to be a man or a woman,
to be truly humbled, to have character, you need to
have been fired and dumped in your life.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Dumped especially yeah, dumped. I think changes the person fired
does too, though, because it just shows you what you're
really made of. It's not a fun experience. We've all
been there. I like to say, let go, or it
didn't work out, or they gave us an offer we
couldn't accept. But truth is you get an offer that
you can't accept because they're putting you in a place

(05:14):
where you're forced to move on or forced to quit.
So essentially, it kind of got fired and it's happened
to the best of us. But you got to rise
like the phoenix. That's really what you have to do.
It's your back's against the wall. Especially if you have
a family. You're like, all right, I gotta get it together.
I gotta develop a new skill. I got to figure
it out. And that's when you feel the most alive.
And again, that's when it really shows what you are

(05:36):
as a man or a woman and what you're made of.
And it's happened from the smallest of levels. Rich, weren't
you fired at Wendy's. I was fired at Wendy's. I
was fired at a radio station. We've all been fired,
and we've all been dumped. And I really do think
it's a true test of how you rebound. It humbles
you when you think you're invincible, like Yo, she'll never

(05:58):
dump Matance. I saw Cavino at his most miserable moments
when he thought some of these girls would never leave him,
and then he's crying in his beer. I think that's
just as important as getting fired. Like, no one likes
these things, but it's a part of life that shapes
you and gives you character, like Rich said, and Rich,
that's a great example in my first learning experience that
life's not always going to be sunshine and rainbows. As

(06:19):
Rocky about Moas.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Said, you're like You're life ain't a sunshine.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
I was definitely that guy who walked with the strut,
thought his estdon' stink was the coolest dude in the room.
She'd never break up with me. She's lucky to have me.
I'm God's gift to women. I'm the greatest guy because
my mom told me so. And sure enough, Man, I
was dumped on my ass time and time again by
women who thought otherwise. Well, and you know what, though,

(06:47):
it motivated me, It lit a fire. It let me
know that I wasn't all that in the bag of
ship says. Your dad probably used to say. You know,
and I remember this clear as day.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Rich.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
My uncle Joe said to me, you know what he's like,
actually like you better man. As a result, because you've
been humbled, you become a real person. You're no longer
a cocky wooden boy anymore. You're not a Pinocchio. You're
a real man because you know what it's like to
experience heartbreak and loss and defeat and being fired. It
humbles you and it puts you on your ass into

(07:20):
a real place that some people need to be.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
And before he got fired, we used to call him
co Pinocchio. No, but uh I remember we are on
Fox Sports Radio. Is it true that the first two
main girlfriends you've had in your life back in your day? Yes,
Are you gonna tie this into sports dumped you for
a New Jersey Net Yes at the time.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
And then the next girlfriend dumped you for a New
York Ranger.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Absolutely. Yes, that's a true story. I'm not proud of it,
but it goes to show you. I was a dude
living in my parents' basement, or as I used to
tell girls, I have these old roommates that live with me.
Don't mind those old people, they're my roommates. They live upstairs.
They rent for me, they rent from me. I was
living at home. I was driving radio station vehicles. I

(08:02):
was on my grind, on my come up. I sold
these beautiful women on my goals and dreams, and they
left me for dudes with money they left me for
dudes that we're doing big things in professional sports. That
humbles you. So back to back days, we're talking about
people getting fired.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
The best of the best in sports have been let
go out of contracts. Coaches have been fired, Players that
are Hall of famers have been Yeah, you know we're
going to release you. We're not going to pick up
the option on your deal. Like this happens to everyone,
and I really do think it's a test to see
what you're made of. And Nna Wayerson and Brian Dable
both facing these obstacles over the last two days, and

(08:40):
you know what, sometimes the cushions a little softer when
you have guaranteed money and you're like, yeah, I could
just chill for a couple of years like some of
these coaches. But there is something humbling about it. And
we want your thoughts on Nico Harrison. Did he dodge
a bullet? Won too many times? Like? What are the
MAVs are at three and eight if they had started strong?
Is he still there? I heard Dan Bayer say before dB,

(09:03):
I do think it's funny how he almost tried to
like take credit for winning the lottery and you know,
almost like it made up for the fact for the
Luca deal. Yes, it is pretty funny how he is
sort of skated by, but I guess everyone hits the
end of the road, you know, when it's time.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
I believe the phrase that he may have used, and
I could get this wrong, but I thought it was
something like fortune favors the Bold, like or like that
was his reward for doing that Luca deal. I thought
it was something like that.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Sounds like a soap opera.

Speaker 5 (09:31):
Yeah, I think Matt Damon said that in a crypto
commercial fortune favors the Bowl.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
It was something along those lines, and everybody just kind
of rolled their eyes. Well, the silver lining is you
learn and grow from these moments and you end up
somewhere hopefully better than you were, in a better place
that fits better than before. But I think the firing
of Nico Harrison today is clearly an admission that it
was a big mistake letting Luca go. So, yeah, you,

(10:00):
Nico Harrison, and then you realize too that Luca's sitting there,
sitting pretty in Los Angeles saying I told you so.
Because the flip side as to why is they have
fully admitted that it was a big mistake letting this
dude go, And I agree Rich hadn't. They started out
three and eight, and as Dan Byer said, second worst

(10:20):
in the West, I think he still might have a job.
Just like we said yesterday, Dave Ball might still have
been there had they not lost that game in the
fashion in which they lost.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
You drop three of your first eleven, I'm sorry, you
only win three your first eleven and you lose four
double digit late leads in the NFL. Listen, it comes
a point where it's like, I don't care, like we've
given this guy won too many chances.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
You're five, Well, all jobs are how you perform all jobs.
If you suck, you're gonna put your job in jeopardy.
And it's not that he suck, but he made a
colossal mistake by letting a superstar player go. Cooper Flagnthony
Davis not cutting Anthony Davis wasn't cutting it in LA
with his injuries and not playing the way they hoped.

(11:06):
So it was four years twenty A little over four
years twenty twenty one was when he was hired GM
to twenty twenty five, and as of today, nine months
after they let go of Luca, he is fired, So
your thoughts on again ending up where you need to be.
And we wrap it up with this a personal little

(11:27):
antidote because rich and I we were at ESPN and
we worked really hard to get that opportunity, like really hard,
And we've mentioned this story several times. We were on
ESPN Radio for about two years. We gave up every
weekend doing ESPN Radio just to get that TV shot,
that TV show. We finally got our own TV show.

(11:50):
We're on the air for about two years. We finally
get rolling. Everything's going great, everything's going great, and then
COVID happened. Our contract ended during that and we lost
our gig, and man, we were like, well, you could
sit there and feel sorry for yourself, but we were
humbled because like, you're gonna let us go? Are you crazy?

(12:11):
We're the best in the game. How do you not
see this? Come on, Covino and rich Man, this is
our moment.

Speaker 6 (12:18):
And.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
You grab yourself by the bootstraps, as your grandma would say,
I don't even know what that means.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Well, I mean I'd imagine some boots have straps, and
that's a how you cope.

Speaker 7 (12:30):
Your boots have the brooch I remember seeing your guys's commercials,
your promos for the show on ESPN.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Dude, we were so proud of you. Who are these bozos?

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Right?

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yeah, seriously exactly, we were gonna be on every night,
late night. They were about to move our show earlier
on ESPN, and then the COVID thing happened, and honestly,
we were like, wow, well, okay, I guess that's life.
Nobody's safe in life period, right, and then we're like,
at least we got our serious XM gig. Dude, after
sixteen plus years out of nowhere COVID contracts, budgets, we

(13:05):
lost our gig at serious excem ers. I like to
say they gave us an offer we couldn't accept.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Oh yeah, it was. It was a weak offer with
a non compete. So it's like, hey, here's less money,
but you can't do anything else.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
So rich and I that's a humbled But we had
to pick ourselves up. We had to do our own thing,
our own Patreon, which we still do, became our own bosses,
and then, wouldn't you know it, a blessing called Fox
Sports Radio came our way. I'm forever grateful, forever thankful,
Fox Sports Radio scooped us up. Shout out to our
agents and Scott and Don everyone that made it happen,

(13:35):
super agent Sean Wyman. But Rich and I got an
opportunity and we couldn't be happier and in a better place.
But it all happened because we were let go. You
might be in a relationship right now, Rich your marriage.
You wouldn't be married to your beautiful model wife with
your beautiful little notes picking kids if some woman didn't

(13:56):
break your heart along the way.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
True. I mean it all and also works itself out,
and I think you know it's it's interesting when you
see Nico Harrison get fired and Brian Dable because when
you're in a position like a head coach or a
GM or management, it's wild because people will applaud your dismissal.
And that's gotta be a weird feeling. Like most people
get dumped or lose their job, most feel sorry for them.

(14:19):
The fact that people like fire Nico and now today
they're like, yeah, like he's got to really have it
within him to be like, I'm good, I'll find another gig.
I believe in myself. But I think to go with
our point would love your feedback. Was it about time
or do you think they should have given him this
year to see what happens with Flag and Davis? Or
do you think that everyone needs to get dumped and

(14:42):
fired to just really see who they are at some
point in their life.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
I think it makes you human, It humanizes you, humbles you,
it builds character. I think all those things are true
rich and I think everybody does need that. You can't
coast true life thinking you're invincible because if you do
get knocked down, you don't know how to reac cooperate.
You don't know how to handle that. But if you've
been there before, you know you're gonna be just okay.
And I think I love your second layer to this.

(15:09):
How do people feel when they finally got what they wanted?
Like even my uncle Bill. My uncle Bill is one
of the nicest guys and he's a hardcore Giants fan
and he was telling me yesterday too. He's like, yeah,
I know it's tough, man, but he had to go, yeah,
sometimes it's warranted. I get it's sports and it's a

(15:30):
game of winning and you're not producing, But when you
get what you want as a fan, are.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
You really happy? About it.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Are you ever really happy to see someone else's I
don't know, demise or family or fire or.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Anything because I saw you know, I saw Cafc Barstool,
our buddy Cafc from Barstool talk about how and Gary
Vee has talked about this as well, where fandom is
weird because she sort of put aside logic and you know,
how you really act as a normal human being, like
like the example would be like, yo, the Yankees suck.

(16:04):
I know the Yankees don't suck. But if you if
you're a Red Sox fan and dog like the Yankees,
you know they could be the World Series and you're.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Like they suck.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Logic you got a fire boone? Yeah, And then like
you know, you're like the Mets didn't make the playoffs.
My team didn't make the playoffs. I have all these
buddies that are like, f Mendoza, fire that bum, and
I'm like, yeah, you don't think he tried, Like I
don't know it. You start to be sympathetic Danny, and
then you realize, like why am I being a logical fan?
That's not what Phantom's about. Yeah, fire up.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
But it's fandom about being an absolute terrible person.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yes, I think so.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
I think it seems to be.

Speaker 7 (16:38):
Yeah, I think you feel bad for the coaches that
are personable, that you actually like and you like hearing
them even in a press conference.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
The ones with the punchable faces.

Speaker 7 (16:48):
Josh McDaniels, those guys, the fan base is like bye
go And obviously he's a good coordinator.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
He's just not a good head coach.

Speaker 7 (16:56):
So it just depends the relationship those coaches have with
their fan base.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
I went to healthy approach, Rich, Like the logical approach
would be like, yeah, he's got to move on, and
you just root for him to do well somewhere else. Right, Well,
listen when when he's on peting we're talking about because
let's be honest, Mike McDaniel, you know, he may have
been driving past bars in Buffalo after that victory last week,
and we might talk about that.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
He's he's a likable guy. But remember we talked about
when they're losing, his sarcastic charm doesn't work as much.
I mean, do you really want to see that guy
lose his gig? You know his story, how he's cleaned
up his whole life and everything, and Mike McDaniel coordinator,
his whole come up, gets his opportunity in Miami. You
don't really want to see him fail. But as a fan,
you don't give an s You're like, just get a

(17:42):
you're a Dolphins fan, You're like saying, get rid of him,
because fandom is illogical. So I think that's the caveat
he rich.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
He's out the window.

Speaker 7 (17:50):
They cannot chase your favorite and your best players out
of the organization. Yeah, and that was the rub on
why I mentioned Josh McDaniels. He chased away three Pro
bowlers off that Raider squad. Players did not mix well
with him. It was a bad locker room. So Nico,
you know, obviously chasing away their best player. And I

(18:12):
don't think Dallas is ever gonna forgive him for that.
And now you guys are saying, maybe it could be
a blessing in disguise to get another start somewhere else
and to be humbled. But is another NBA organization gonna
give Nico another shot after that big of a swing
and a miss. Anthony Davis is a huge part of this.
He's not playing again right now, he's hurt again.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah, probably not. But the silver lining in life is
that you might end up somewhere better off right, whether
it be in a relationship or a job. That's just
the silver lining for anyone listening for Nico Harrison. Yeah,
he had his chance, man, but you know what, he
made his money, He made his millions. And I think
you know who's really pulling dubs this week, Luca because

(18:55):
he gets that redemption, that revenge, that storyline that he
knew he was gonna get all along.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Oh dude, a mistake. He's playing slapass with Ustin Reeves
hitting half court shots like you know, living it up,
and Lebron's not even there yet, so it's like this
is but.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Dude, we all got to use that as motivation, that
kicking the ass like Luca was, let go. You know,
we got to use that motivation to inspire all of
us to get to that next level. I don't care
if that's a negative way to be motivated. Whatever motivates you,
I think is a good thing. And if if that's
to show someone or somebody or some company that they
made a mistake by letting you go, let it motivate you,

(19:32):
let it let your fire. Because Luca got that redemption
that he wanted, and he's like, you see, that's a
full admission that that was the biggest mistake your organization
ever made.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Well the Giant yesterday with dabol the Mavericks today with
Nico Harrison. But did both teams get it right? The
answer is yes, you had to move on from these guys.
But as a fan, like, it's weird to, you know,
cheer the demise of a guy's career, But yo, as
a fan, you're illogical onto the next Let's win, win, win,
that's what it's all about. And the second layer. Like

(20:01):
Cavino and I said, if you've never been dumped and
you've never been fired from a job, and I bump
into you, I'm gonna have a hard time trusting you
because I feel like there's something you learn from those experiences.
If a guy or a woman you ever see, like
a hot chicken, she's like, yeah, no one's ever dumped me.
I'm like, yeah, you know what, then you've never been
humbled there, buddy, Yeah, you're.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Way full of yourself. You're way full of yourself and no.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Guy has ever left me. It's like, oh, okay, well
who okay.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
I'm thinking about Cooper Flag too, there's he must feel
a little bit like he's got some blood on his hands, Like, yeah,
maybe if I played a little better, you still have
a job because the only solution for Nico Harrison to
keep his job was to win, and that's not what
they've been able to do. And you have to admit, like,
we made a mistake, and at three and eight right now,

(20:45):
I guess they have. So that's the story. Back to
back days. Why are we harping on this so hard?
We got back to back days where performance mattered Day Bowl? Yeah,
the way they lost, As I mentioned yesterday, it's not
just the loss, it's the way they and the way
they were losing games fired Nico Harrison. You let go
of a legendary, generational type player. You're hoping it all

(21:10):
pans out. It doesn't fired.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yeah, your thoughts and coves. It's also the fact that,
well I'm not saying neither were unexpected, but at the
time of the season, like I think people thought that
Daba would finish the year, and I think other people thought,
like Nico Harrison would get a little more time. So
I think that in itself also was like oh wow,
like they you know, they finally said up today's day
and listen. Like any relationship, not to tie it to

(21:35):
relationships always, but how many times have a relationship ended
on like as we call it, the dryer light theory,
it's not the big fight. Sometimes it's that little thing,
like you fought over a I remember getting in a
fight with an ex girlfriend because she went and closed
the dryer door and there was a little light that
stayed on and I asked her about it, and she
flipped out on me, and I was like, we what

(21:56):
broke up over a dryer light? No, it was the
bigger picture. But I guess when you start three and eight,
that's their dryer light.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
That's their drying light. And I have more questions based
on this story. Is the biggest story going on so
far today. Nico Harrison fired nine months after getting rid
of Luca. Your thoughts, your observations, your comments, your feedback.
Welcome at eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox at
Covino and Rich at Fox Sports Radio. We got more CNR.

(22:25):
He's a legend, he's our friend. He's the host of
the I Want Your Flex podcast. That's right, I'm kissing
his ass. It's the great Dan Byer on TV he's
going on fellas.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
Yeah, Nico Harrison out of a job. Today at the
University of North Carolina, head coach Bill Belichick was asked
about his interest in the now vacant head coaching job
with the New York Giants.

Speaker 8 (22:46):
I've been doing this real before. I'm focused on the
way for us. That's it, and that's my commandment of
this team. And next week it'll be to our next
opponent and so forth. But you know, I'm here to
do best I can for this team.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
I was Bill Belichick in Chapel Hill earlier today, guys,
back to you, Thank you?

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Dan? Is that his modern day version of Onto Cincinnati?

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Exactly, it's just wake for est now to me Cove.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
I know he says he wants to stay put, and
there's the buyouts and the options. There's got to be
something a little appealing, though. If you're Bill Belichick knowing
that Dable and this team really under delivered, and you
know that they have pieces, they have draft picks, they
have potential, wouldn't that be a nice little what do
I call it? Spot a swan song? Your last thing?
Is that?

Speaker 9 (23:29):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (23:29):
What it is?

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Bill Belichick's swansong going back to where he started with
Bill Parcels in the eighties, were on a Cincinnati.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
I think he would absolutely love it. I think he's
always wanted to go back to the Giants when you
see some of those documentaries, the way that he talks
about the Giants days. His boat has eight rings. It's
the sixth that he won with the Patriots and the
two that he won is the defensive coordinator of the Giants.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
It meant so much to yes, they would, you know,
bookend his career perfectly?

Speaker 4 (23:59):
Yes, I think think he would absolutely love it and
leave in a millisecond. It's just a matter of whether
ownership would want him or not.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
Oh man, is he?

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (24:07):
You know?

Speaker 3 (24:08):
All right?

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Listen, I have a question. Tom Brady's got vested interured
obviously in Danny G's Raiders. He's part of that team now.
But isn't there a part of you Cove that thinks
Bill Belichick with that team maybe Tom Brady, if he
wasn't vested with the Raiders would be like Jackson Dart.
I know he seems like an old stiff, but I
promise you like he'll take you there.

Speaker 8 (24:28):
Oh no, we'll se.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
I don't know, man, I don't know where Belichick's head's
really at.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
Imagine they imagine he starts coaching there and Jackson Dart
starts sleeping with Jordan Hudson.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
I don't know. I don't think she did anything good
for his reputation. You know, I'll get him a high
five for forgetting with her because she's kind of hot,
But as far as his professional reputation, no bueno. So
interesting story. Now back to Nico Harrison because we have
a few phone calls at eighty seven seven ninety n
on Fox. He was fired nine months after they got

(25:03):
rid of Luca, and we post so many questions and
theories based on this. Are you, as a fan ever happy?
Are you truly happy that you got what you wanted?
If that's what you wanted? Is that wrong to be happy?
Or a sports So we throw logic out the window.
We established that and Rich have you ever been the
reason I was thinking about this too? Have you ever

(25:24):
been the reason of someone getting fired? Because anytime I
have real complaints, like real complaints, I always buffer that
complaint with Look, I'm not trying to get anybody fired
because I don't want that karma. I don't want that revenge.
That guy trying to get me for getting fired. I
don't want any of that in my life. So I
was like, hey, look, I'm not trying to get anybody fired,
but this guy did X, Y and Z.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
Were you ever the reason? No, but I'll tell you what.
Much like you said, there have been times at one
of our old jobs, about a decade ago, we saw
a guy. We thought the guy was like missing in debt.
He didn't show up to an event to find out
he's on like a bender, drinking and partying. We covered
for him as a way to be like, hey, listen,
Olive Branch, like, yo, we looked out for you, and

(26:05):
I thought that would make us tighter.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
And it didn't. Yo, we got a really bad story. Craig,
hold on one second because I'm gonna get to your
phone call. But Rich and I were on TV right
Get this. We worked at a TV channel in New
York City hit sn Y sn Y, and one of
the production dudes fell asleep on the set and we're

(26:27):
on the air and we see it and we're like, yo,
we point at him and the camera guy, yeah, he
zooms in on the guy sleeping. We just thought it
was funny. We did we thought it was funny. We
weren't calling him out. We were friends with the guy.
We weren't like tattle tailing. We were like, yo, he
fell asleep.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
What a mess? I mean, you know, for people listening
to our show, they know the nature of our show
that if let's say, during a break I was saying
fell asleep, it would become a joke. We weren't be like,
you know.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yo, dude. That was the final straw and that got
him fired. And we felt so bad about that. We
really did. But we had a you know, reason with ourselves,
like no, like it was coming and that was just
the last straw. But we did feel bad about it.
So if you got what you wanted or you got
somebody fired, is it okay to feel good about that?
So Nico Harrison, he'll be just fine. He made his money,

(27:15):
but he lost his job. And Craig and Montana, yeah yeah,
say hey Sam, wake up, Sam, come on man, get.

Speaker 5 (27:23):
To gob you're talking about Sleepy Brouh.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Craig and Montana. You're on the Cavino and Rich Show.

Speaker 10 (27:30):
Hi, guys, love you. Thanks for to answer my call.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Thanks.

Speaker 10 (27:34):
So, my little story is I was dating two girls
about twenty years ago, and one was a dancer professional
and one of the hairstylists.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
And basically, hold on, hold on when you say when
you say dancer professional, do you mean like in the
ballet or a really good.

Speaker 10 (27:49):
Stripper like around the pole?

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Okay, okay, I thank you it, Okay, I just riched
his kind of professional?

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yes, yeah, okay, yes.

Speaker 10 (27:57):
And I was a heavy metal and basically the dancer
girlfriend was huge in the Metallica and I was into Pantera,
which did not mess with Metallica in my brains. And
so basically I had to make a decision, and I
chose to fire the dancer, and I chose the hair duster,

(28:19):
and I'm married to her twenty years to this day.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
So wow, that's a story of romance. You should have
told that at you wedding, I hope. So.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah, So she was fired basically because she didn't like Panta,
she didn't like Metallica the way you liked Metallica, Cove.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
You know, all these stories were talking about tie together,
Nico Harrison, Brian Dable, because what happens after you get
fired then begins the mission for what's next, and it
does tie into the Bill Belichick thing. I know it's
just a rumor, and he quickly was like, ontoake forrest forever.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
But you don't think we would be really bad taste
to entertain that while he's still working as a college coach.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Agreed, right, But you don't think there's something enticing, like
if there weren't NFL job, like den Byer said, if
there weren't NFL job New York where he started with
Parcel like, like everything about that situation seems like, oh,
you got Jackson Darda.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
He really wants to say, damn Scibby, get me out
of here.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, absolutely, God, continue to imagine just paying the s
Jordan Hudson in New York City.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
I mean he wants to say, yes, absolutely, sign me up.
But he can't do that. Nah. I mean I would
think that's what I think, That's what I would believe.
He knows the NFL, he doesn't know college football.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
When do you judge the trade completely, Danny G I
know you're only going at a three and eight Dallas
Mavericks team and the Lakers look like again, looks like
they're having the most fun time you know in the West.
Is it? Is it? Do you see how the Cooper
flag move pans out. Do you see how Luca if
he wins one? Like, when do we get to judge
this trade? Is it already judged?

Speaker 2 (29:54):
I think he was judged as of right now every
article and just I mean, I don't know, if you
just think about it, this is a full admission that
they made a huge mistake. That's really what it is.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
I mean, I guess you're right.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yeah, I mean when you see, like you said, when
you see Luca playing slap bass with Reeves and hitting
all these shots and looking slim and trim, it's like
he won the breakup.

Speaker 7 (30:19):
Luca made the history books for the most points scored
in a seven game span to open a season. And
then on the other side, Anthony Davis is hurt again
not playing. And that was the one only complaint as
a Lakers fan. I loved watching Anthony Davis, but he
was hurt more than he was on the court.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
It's like, you know what that is. That's like you
left a woman and then she got the glow up
like Luca did, and then the one you're with is
all hurt and hobbling around like Anthony Davis.

Speaker 7 (30:50):
Yeah, don't, damn don't if you call a lot of
us fat. You're gonna see some results.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
I know, honestly.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yeah, if you call someone fat when you break up
of them, they're gonna they're gonna look pretty sweet. By
the way, have you ever dated that. I don't want
to get dirty here, but have you ever dated a
girl and then right after you guys breakup she gets
new boobs and you're like, oh, I want to see.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Yeah, Luca got new boobs. Man, he won, He won
the breakup, and now you're stuck with, like I said,
a hobblin injured Anthony Davis, who uh, I want to
see he's got deflated boobs. All right, So Covicion trying
to trying to give the silver lining of losing a
gig and getting dumped. It builds character. But this was

(31:28):
bound to happen after a three and eight start. Sports,
all rationale, all logic is out the window. Fire him
because we want results. And that's the world we live in.
Grand opening, grand closing, back to back days where people
got fired here on the Cavino and Rich Show. Now,
I want to talk your boy, Gruden, Danny g. We
got to talk about Gruden because he said something really
interesting about Thursday Night football. And I don't think anybody's

(31:52):
really going to disagree with what he had to say.
But there's a reason why what he's saying.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
I don't think. I don't think anything will change. But
we'll get to John Gruden, I wanted this a great
This is a fun NFL story. We'll get to. Plus
we're gonna give away some prizes. Shack Diesel Trivia.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
A wild night in Miami as Wiggins soared in the
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four tenths of a second left.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Come on for Wagons particular finish for Miami.

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Speaker 1 (32:52):
That's a John Gruden story. I want to get to
but real quick, right quick, and about ten minutes any
less second predictions for MLB is gonna announcing their Managers
of the Year.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Oh, mister Fuji, I was gonna say, I was gonna
say Bobby the brain Heaton, But that's I don't think
that's the answer either. No, you know what I was thinking.
I'm sorry. I was thinking about the Tyrach play the day,
and I was thinking about Grayson Allen just hitting threes
last day. What did he hit, like ten threes, Danny
g something like that. Yeah, so basketball heating up for sure.

(33:23):
I see Manager of the Year. That's a good one, man.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Schneider on the Blue
Jays because of what he did.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
I know, especially from like worst to first, the way
they were.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Yeah, and I think in the NL, I know the
finalists are Pat Murphy. The Brewers had their best record ever.
You know, Rob Thompson of the Phillies first place. Great season.
But the fact that Terry Francona snuck in like an
average Reds team into the postseason. His record speaks for itself.
Frankie is just a great baseball guy. I would it

(33:55):
be shocked if they gave it to Terry Francona.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Tito Tito, Yeah, no, right, all of a sudden they
were contending, and you sort of looked at him like
he's the reason for sure.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah, I mean he's the reason. I think. You know,
his leadership, you could argue is they were a meager
eighty what is it, eighty three and seventy nine wildcard,
But nonetheless, that's I think an under five hundred team
without good leadership.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
I agree it's Covino and Rich will keep you post
that Dan Byral, hook you up with the updates as
they come. But start thinking about this, as Timmy Nobrik says,
get this. Yeah, John Gruden is buzzing, chirp and reel
out all over social media. This has gone viral, and
he's calling for the NFL to eliminate Thursday night games,

(34:40):
arguing that players don't have enough time to prepare, and
not only that the coaches don't. He says, no preparation,
no time to recover, no chance. Get rid of these
Thursday night games. Dump them. It's not fair to the players,
it's not fair to the coaches. And I saw this
via barstool, I saw it everywhere this morning. Uh, Danny

(35:02):
g I know you're a Gruden guy, you're a fan.
I know this will probably never happen because there's too
much money to be made and it's become a part
of our life. But he is making sense, right, because
we're getting a watered down product as a result.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
But cave, you know, partnerships with networks and streaming services
and billions of dollars will totally eliminate any speculation. But
what you're saying, forget about will it happen, because answer
is absolutely not. But the reality is we like it
because we're selfish fans, like, oh sweet, another game to watch, right,
better than if you just get banged around on a
Sunday afternoon, on a Sunday afterne no home, Like four

(35:39):
days later you're you're throwing the pads on again for
another battle, like with a couple of days. Like it
doesn't feel right, I know it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
How certain things stick with you for whatever reason. George Kittle,
your boy Rich, Yes, I said the same thing.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
I always think of this because it was like it
was a really great visual and it made you think
because you may have been there, you may have not
played in the NFL, but unforti, you've probably been in
an accident or two or three, and luckily you survived.
He says recovering from a football game is like recovering
from a car accident. You know, when you're really banged
up and you're sore, and you really have to work

(36:13):
your way through that next week. So imagine getting all
banged up, being hit by the most dominant players in
professional sports, then have to get back out there again
on a Thursday with not only physical recovery, but now
you have to mentally prepare for this game. It's not possible.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
You're so right that feeling of you know, Luckily, like
you said, you don't get hurt, but you're getting that
fender bender where you're like, and my back stiff, my
neck hurts a little man. Yeah, you feel off, So
get out there play feel. It doesn't make sense, but
it'll It'll never happen. But should the NFL consider it?
They won't, but I think they should.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Okay, but is that a failed experiment?

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Then it brings up the thought of failed experiments in sports.
I'm gonna throw two out there, and then I want
to take all the feedback with you, Cove. I know
you loved it, but remember the glowing puck in hockey.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
I did like it? Yeah, I did like it, but
apparently I was the only guy I liked it.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Another one was past interference challenges, because we realized that
on any given play there's some type of ticky tacky
push or pull and it was very hard to do.
And they said, you know what, it just doesn't work.
Challenging a past interference call failed experiment. So if you
have other quote failed experiments in sports, yeah, let's chop
it up. Was it you or daddy? Someone said he

(37:32):
speaking of Leonardo DiCaprio's fifty one today, Did you see
that his yacht in the French Riviera was actually the
only people responding to some so SOS call. So some
little dude both gets picked up by Leo and it
just it's a yacht of ass.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Yeah. So he went from someone went from like dying,
you know, drowning in a in an ocean to partying
with hot shrieks.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Yeah, it's like, uh, it's like when Harry and Lloyd
got pulled over by that uh that bus of women
and dumb and dumber.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
How cool is that? So John Gruden, we got to
get to this because we got shack diesel, Whack diesel
waiting in the lobby to give away some prizes. We're
going to do some trivia here on the show this hour,
he said some things about Thursday Night football and if
you missed it, hit it, Sam.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Let's start with Thursday night football.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Man, what a treat.

Speaker 10 (38:21):
It is.

Speaker 9 (38:23):
No preparation, no time to recover, no chance get rid
of these Thursday night games.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Jump them.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
It's not fair to the players. It's not fair to
the coaches who goes.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
Out and tries to perform at a high level with
no preparation.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Dump these games. It'll ever happen. But he does make
a solid point and as a result, like I said,
we're getting an over I don't want to see an
oversaturated football season, but definitely a watered down product on
Thursday Night. And it's been showing lately. All the primetime
games lately have been weak because we're not getting enough

(38:59):
pre not enough rest, and it just doesn't feel big.
It feels weak.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
It's more always better. No, Like if I said, Hey,
you're gonna get more pizza, but it's like trash pizza.
If I said, you know, you're gonna get more loving,
but it's not like quality, it's like lazy rich.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Don't I call this the Peep's theory. Bro, the Peep's theory.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
You nailed it. When we were kids, every Easter you
look forward to getting that little package of peeps from
the Easter Bunny.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Easter Bunny, We're bring you peeps, yellow ones, blue ones,
pink ones. But it was once a year and you'd
look forward to them. When they started putting them out
for every holiday and all the time and easily available,
you're like peep suck. I used to call it the
Wizard of Oz theory. Do you remember around Thanksgiving time
they'd air the Wizard of Oz. There was like a
big deal and you sit there with the whole family

(39:50):
because it was a special moment. Then they started airing
it all the time, and it's not as special. It's
just not as good. That's just how it is. I
don't know why. Supply and demand, I don't but the
less of it, the more you want it. And football
seems to be almost a little too much or not complaining,
just displaining what John Gruden's saying here, and as a result,

(40:11):
with recovery time, we're not getting the product that we're
supposed to when it comes to the NFL.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
And if you're wondering, did we just make an analogy
using peep Sex, Thursday Night Football and the Wizard of Oz.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
You're damn right we did, and we just made the
pabaganosh boom.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
So any other rules or I guess you would say
changes that didn't work in sports in life where you're like, yeah,
that that just didn't work.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah, we're witnessing a failed experiment that hopefully they can
improve on. I don't know how. I don't know how
you speed up recovery or make it better. That's for
them to figure out. It's not my job. But we're
witnessing a failed experiment that's going to continue. What are
some other ones that come to mind that maybe went away?
Eight seven, seven ninety nine one Fox, you know Cove

(41:02):
people are on hold. They're saying they know how to
fix the thirsday the football. But let me hit you
up with one more sure. I think during the.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
Playoffs now you might say, you might say, oh, that
was a strategic move by by Fox and TBS. Have
you noticed that during the postseason they really made that
X strike zone so faintly light Like I feel like
it's not our job to be the at home umpire.
You follow what I'm saying, Like, during the regular season,

(41:28):
do you think it's too light? No? I liked it,
I thought too. Yeah. I think during the regular season
they realized, like, listen, we're not supposed to be at
home umpires where every pitch we see if the umpire
just got it right or not. Like I like the
faint little strike zone where you could sort of see,
but it wasn't a distinct like bordered square.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
Yeah, the failed experiment being like too much of that.
Then you didn't see the post though.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
You didn't see the postseason the pitch clock countdown, because
you don't want to be reminded of these things, but
you want them to be there. So I think that's
what baseball learned the share like the rules are good,
you just don't need to show us, Eh.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Failed the caments. Let's go to the phones. What do
you think about Thursday night football? How do we fix it?
We have lots of phone calls. Now's your time to
call it eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox and
of course at Covino and Rich. You want to start
in Seattle. I want to ski dattle to Seattle. Let's
ski daddle to Seattle. With that that's Steve. What's up,
old Steve Largent? What's up buddy?

Speaker 3 (42:28):
Hey guys, everything's great here with the exciting Seahawks. And
I just I don't know. I suspect that this has
been really analyzed, but it seems like this there's such
an obvious fix to this, and that is to not
start the Thursday night games until a few weeks in
the season when the buys start, and then from that

(42:48):
point on you only can test the Thursday night games
between two teams that have been on a buy the
prior week.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
Now, And you know what, what you're saying makes a
hell a lot of sense. And I know that there's
a panel of schedule gurus, Dann Bayer, you could confirm this.
There isn't there like a panel of people that make
the schedule every year. This isn't some AI generated thing like,
it's a panel of people. And I wonder if they
could throw that in or if they've thought of that already.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
They used to do that.

Speaker 4 (43:15):
Now there are a lot of computers that will that
will print out a bunch of different schedules for you.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Oh wait, so they took those jobs too?

Speaker 1 (43:23):
The really? Yes? Oh my god, what are you gonna
tell me next, Dan, what are you gonna tell me next?
NFL football's aren't weave together by a bunch of old ladies.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
I've seen that right, Yes, because for us thinking like
there's only like one or two or three possible schedules,
they do have a bunch. Now, there's a lot of
stuff they have to work around, you know, facilities, they
have to work around concerts, there's TV stuff with you know,
the New York market, the Florida market has three teams,
so you're moving teams around in that way. But yes,

(43:52):
now it's kind of done by computer.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Damn Ai taking her jobs.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Failed experiments, damn Allen Iris in sports, but it be
anything any failed experiment eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox,
Let's go to David in Missouri. You're on the Cavino
and Rich show. Fox Sports Radio was.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Up a bud.

Speaker 6 (44:10):
Hey, guys, So that previous carler took my idea kind of.
But instead of eliminating Thursday until the bibleis kick in,
how about having the former playoff teams from the previous
season play while you're waiting for the buyes to kick in.
That way, I mean they're already their ex playoff team,
so they might be well led machines, better product on the.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
Field, but they've also also played a couple extra games
more than anyone else, So you could argue that is
the opposite should.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Be Yeah, it should be the teams who didn't make
the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
Maybe yeah, but that would other.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
Maybe not be the greatest games. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (44:42):
I mean it's hard because the NFL is not going
to eliminate games. They're always trying to add more game.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Maybe it's like a second string game for second string
players only, and like if they add an eighteenth game,
you got to play your second string too. Another question
for you guys, have no I don't know any solution
that would make sense to that. I think we're just
gonna I have to deal with the fact that it's
just a watered down product. You want to know, it's absurd.

Speaker 4 (45:04):
Sorry, rich I was just going to say there are
situations too where a team will play on Thursday or
have a bye, and then they won't play until that
next Monday. Like this, this happens more than you would think.
So not only does the team have a really long
week now then they have a short break, they have
a short week coming back on the other side. So
there's there's not a lot of rhyme or reason for

(45:25):
why these matchups are placed when they were when you're
trying to determine rest because they can't even get that
straightened out, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
There's there's you're one hundred percent right because it's now
now it's a little too much.

Speaker 7 (45:38):
I think we figured it out. They should rehire humans
to make the schedules rather than these computers in AI.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Yeah, maybe missed the human element.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
In things coved that are currently happening. And I wonder
if either one of them will be looked back and say,
you know, maybe we should change that. The mid season
tournament in the NBA, it's a couple of years in
do we care now well that continue or we're gonna
look back and I can't remember those like four years.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
That's a good one, dude. I don't know. I feel
like for me personally, I it gives me no excitement,
not really. Now, Daniel, how do you feel about the
in season tournament?

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Yeah? It has a soccer vibe to it, right, like
they're trying to emulate something soccer does are very European.

Speaker 4 (46:19):
Yeah, Well, I'm not feeling along along those lines, though,
there's been news over the last couple of weeks that
there's an NBA Europe League that is about to be unveiled,
maybe as soon as twenty twenty seven, where you would
have twelve teams in Europe play each other in different cities.
There is the talk of possibly having those teams play

(46:41):
US based NBA teams down the line, where you could
have some sort of tournament. So I don't know how
we want to get used to the NBA Cup or
how because there could be changes.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
If this NBA Europe cool, well, it works off as
time goes. You give it time to develop and figure out.
Like I felt that way Dan about the World Baseball
Classic at one point, I'm like, yeah, I feel like
I'm the only one that cares. No one's really caring.
They made some cool adjustments, they got better players and
better teams and some better competition, and now I'm looking
forward to it, Like the World Baseball Classic to me

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is not a failed experiment, Like I'm actually looking forward
to that. And there was a long time where no
one was really or felt like no one was really
caring or watching that much. Rich in our industry, we've
mentioned this a few times. But in our industry broadcasting,
you gotta remember like the jack fms, right, which in
concept and theory sounded kind of cool. It's like, yeah,

(47:34):
throw it on shuffle, man, it's like shuffle for your car.
Just shuffle radio station Jack FM. And I always think
of Diamond Dave David Lee Roth in the mornings zity bittybop,
busy busdy bop, good morning. I always think of Diamond Dave,
and everyone thought like his dynamic character and personality would
replace Howard Stern. But then he got all like serious

(47:56):
and it wasn't the David the Roth everybody wanted. So
failed experiments is trying to think about the different one,
you know.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
The Jack FM. One's funny because I think every city
there was there might still be a Jack FM. But
the concept was the copod on shuffle. But then everyone
the answer was, well, you don't want to listen to
someone else's iPod on shovel.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
That's the thing. Yeah, you like your iPod on shuffle,
you don't like anyone. I would hate Rich's iPod on shuffle.
And that's what Jack FM. And it still exists, I believe, But.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
Too much count and crows and Proclaimers.

Speaker 7 (48:27):
Or what Yeah, like you know you want to get
it also sounded too recorded on those radio stations, not
enough live elements.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
So kind of a fail experiment. Good in theory, good
in theory.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
What about? Uh? I mean we love football more than anything,
right we I mean it's it's it's still no matter
how big baseball had a season this year. The NBA's
pop into but football is still came any anything other
than the NFL and your college football that we're used
to just doesn't work. Xfl usfl uxfl any, whatever they're

(48:58):
trying to do, it just doesn't ever work. And I
don't think it ever will.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
I agree with you. Yeah, we are.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
We are seasonally conditioned to be like I like football
from like the beginning of the school year, like August
September until February. Then I like basketball and baseball and hockey.
Like we don't want football in the summer. I think
we figure that out no matter how many iterations, and uh,
I think when it comes to All Star games, I
think we're realizing that. That's why they keep fiddling with

(49:23):
the Pro Bowl and NBA All Star Weekend. They're trying
to figure out what will stick because it just seems
like it.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Hasn't again, And we have to keep in mind John
Bruden saying this, that's that says a lot about how
coaches really feel about it.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
And he's he's also like NFL public enemy number one,
so I think he likes to mix stir it up too.
But I started it up.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
But I don't think anyone would disagree. Like the product
hasn't been good. It hasn't. You're just watching it because
it's the NFL playing and simple because there's like nothing
better to watch on a Thursday night.

Speaker 7 (49:55):
But we are prisoners of the moment here a little
bit because if you, I know, it feels like, uh,
now what week are we going into eleven? Yeah, but
remember we started out with some really good primetime games.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
You're right, yeah, but as the season goes, tear shows
there you go. I mean, and you're seeing that, like
you know where you're seeing that firsthand. There's a lot
of speculation today, like the Steelers like they look beaten
and defeated because they're older in the seasons going on,
and that's why you're getting this product. You know, there's
there's mileage by week eleven, So yeah, your Thursday Night

(50:28):
product is gonna suffer a little bit. Alejandro Alejandro in Fillmore, California,
Thursday Night Football. What do you think about what John
Gruden said?

Speaker 10 (50:38):
All right, No, to be honest with Yes, we're talking
about games and stuff, right, putting everything in Europe and stuff.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (50:45):
Can you imagine what it would be like if you
had the Chievans playing America in the US.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
I think there would be long term if this did
work out, they would be some record breaking games if
they're really if some sports went global Codino after a while,
if it did build up, it would be what we
view with sports now, even to the next level. I
just don't know if the interest is there. I don't
I don't know. Like Disneyland open, disney World opens in

(51:17):
other countries, it works out.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
Well, like half the time France, Japan.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
Yeah, like not everywhere, not everywhere, So you don't know.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
You know, to just go off the bye week conversation
that you guys are having as well to look ahead.
I think we all expect the NFL to go to
an eighteen game schedule at some point, which would very
likely mean two buys per team. You could then do
what you guys have been talking about what the callers
feedback on social media as well have said of if

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you now have two buys to work with when giving
teams Thursday Night football, you'd be able to work with that.
I don't know what you would do in weeks eighteen
and nineteen at the end of the season, or what
you would do in weeks one and two when you
wouldn't want to give a team a buy that early
or that late. But it would give them more flexibility.
But it would also, guys, because of the conversations of

(52:08):
having the super Bowl beyond President's Day weekend, so everyone
has that Monday off following.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Oh, that would extend it to that It would oh wow,
So there's more multiple reasons there maybe making that happen.

Speaker 4 (52:19):
Yes, but you would also likely have to start the
season a week earlier. So because not only are you
adding a game, you're adding a bye, so you're actually
adding two weeks. If you added one at the back
end of the schedule to make it President's Day weekend,
you're likely to have to start the NFL on Labor
Day weekend.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
You know what I said, Dan, Let's let the robots
worry about it. Yeah, the robots. I'm sorry can't compute schedule.

Speaker 7 (52:43):
Who I mean, I mean at this point, just kill
one of the preseason games.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
Well, they would, they.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
Would preseason eighteen regular twenty total, and like Dan said,
one week in the beginning, one week at the end.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Perfect, though, any other experiments to mind, I'm sure that
algorithm of like Dan said, international games combined with Thursday
night and buys and rest, there's.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
You know, yo, let's put AI to the test.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Let's go absolutely. You know, I'm thinking, like I'm really
thinking of failed experiments in sports, So I'm like focusing
on sports. How about the Baller brand sneaker? Like that
was the weakest ever, ended up costing his son's career
to some degree, you know, getting hurt as a result.
But remember so much hype around those stupid sneakers and

(53:32):
the baller brand. All right, so oh yeah, so stupid.
All right, So your thoughts, your calls, and thank you
guys for hanging out with us. Now we're looking for
people to play the game that sweeping the nation is
called whack diesel. Speaking of basketball, whack diesel, shack diesel trivia.

(53:58):
I so the big man in the hallway, I don't
want to make him wait it's time.

Speaker 9 (54:04):
Whenever we say not to name drop, that means we're
about to name drop, I'll drop. Oh my goodness, not
only our CNR friends with Tyson and Mahomes, hey man,
they're also buddies with a big Aristotle.

Speaker 11 (54:18):
What's up, Big Shack Dues aka Shackfou aka Shack Daddy
aka the Big Aristotle. Guess what it's down from sing
our project.

Speaker 9 (54:27):
Time for some basketball trivia basketball trivia?

Speaker 11 (54:31):
What he said, I used to break brack boards, now
breaking records for Repisol Radio.

Speaker 9 (54:36):
Shack d sel basketball trivia.

Speaker 7 (54:38):
All right, FSR security walking our broke shack food into
the main studio, Shack.

Speaker 11 (54:43):
I know you guys are thinking Rebok at home Rebo
failed experiment. But how about that fool Michael Jordan. I
thought he was gonna play baseball?

Speaker 2 (54:51):
How about you on the Celtics.

Speaker 11 (54:53):
No, how about Michael Jordan playing baseball? Failed experiment?

Speaker 7 (54:56):
All right, it's good to have you back in and
for the first time in this NBA season. All right,
let's meet the contestants. Eleven time winner Rich Davis live
from Texas.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Hey, Shack, I see a lot of whimby stuff at
the Sporting Goods starts here in San Antonio. See the
next best big man like you is he is he
gonna be shack level.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Or all the time we've seen it before.

Speaker 7 (55:15):
Whole Bowl, Oh, Ford Bowl four time winner, Spotty Boy
fourteen time winner, Dan's higher right over?

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Hello, I love the best of going to the studio line.
See who's playing for a CNR nerve football? All right, bye,
I'll use you for this.

Speaker 7 (55:30):
Would you love to travel to beautiful Indie Indiana, Greeley, Colorado,
Sioux Falls, South Dakota, Saint Paul, Minnesota, or the Poconos
in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 4 (55:40):
Oh no, let's go to the Poconos a second straight day.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Have gone with the last city. But let's go to
the Pocono before thing about that than thinking about the Pokes. Cokemo?
Is that in the Caribbean?

Speaker 1 (55:54):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (55:54):
That's Nick in Pennsylvania?

Speaker 1 (55:56):
What up?

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Nick?

Speaker 3 (55:57):
How you guys doings?

Speaker 10 (55:59):
Letting me out?

Speaker 2 (55:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Hey, no problem?

Speaker 2 (56:01):
What do you do for a living there in penn That's.

Speaker 12 (56:02):
Right, I'm actually a travel part I'm a travel bark
springing summer on cruise hip and the winter and fall
on the Boconotes.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
Oh wow, listen, Danny g and Dan Byer might not
know this. I know spotting comno do parents on the
East coast. The Poconos is like they're sexy week get away.
It really was. It was like, it's like that that weekend.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
It's weird this weekend.

Speaker 12 (56:24):
Can I give you one piece of advice. Yeah, is
that I get a lot of guys from the city,
older guys bringing up women that are They're definitely heating
and they fit very well. That's why I do this.
But I think the girls think the Pocono is that
they're going to like Cancun and they're up in this
little town in Vermont.

Speaker 11 (56:41):
It was right my sexy time. I sitting there champagne glass,
champagne glass.

Speaker 7 (56:45):
Tooking their nose where they shouldn't be. All right, here
are the rules for Shack Diesel Trivia. The first contestant
with two correct answers is the champion. If there's a tie,
we do have a tie breaker question. You're name is
your buzzer, but you gotta wait until all three possible
answers are read. If there's two wrong answers in a row,
we move on to the next question. Are you ready?

Speaker 1 (57:07):
Let's go?

Speaker 11 (57:08):
Let's get it out, big Aristontal party has started. How
many different teams did I play for in my stellar career?
Was it A five, B six or C seven? How
many different games?

Speaker 2 (57:20):
Nick?

Speaker 1 (57:21):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Six?

Speaker 6 (57:24):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (57:26):
Right on the board.

Speaker 11 (57:27):
Immediately as he goes all the colors of the rainbow,
what do you think you look best at?

Speaker 7 (57:32):
Check purple? No, that's right, that's right. And do you
have actually I look at and everything? Do you have
every jersey hanging in your mansion?

Speaker 2 (57:40):
Everyone?

Speaker 7 (57:41):
The Magic Lakers, heat, sugns, caves and cells. All right,
let's go to round two. Nick is halfway to a
CNR prize.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Alright, round two? He was great, but I'm the greatest.

Speaker 11 (57:52):
What was the Wizard's winning percentage during each of Michael
Jordan's seasons with the club A three ninety seven, B
four fifty one or C five h two?

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Nick oh? Nick trying to sweep No, Rich Rich for
the steal.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
I feel like they were slightly under five hundreds. I'll
go be four fifty one.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
You are correct, sir, that's right? Rich on the board.

Speaker 7 (58:17):
All right, good job? All right, Nick? And Rich with
around as we go to the third.

Speaker 11 (58:22):
Round round three. What was I once quote of saying
about motivation? Hey, The only person who really motivate is you?

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Did I say that? The only thing you said it right?

Speaker 11 (58:33):
The only person who you can really motivate you as
you or something like that. I'm confused.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
My dad could motivate me by shooting a quick look
of disapproval or see, Charles is motivated to come into
the new TV studio because you've been putting out trays
of Krispy Kremes.

Speaker 7 (58:54):
Krispy Kreme Nick Nick for the winds? B No, did
he say B B B is incorrect? I'm sorry, Dan's
buyer for the steal. It's gotta be a right, yeah,
the board correctly.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Who can really motivate you? Is you right? The only
person who could really motivate you is you? Yes? That
is right. Wow, that's just it's very deep.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
I got to ask, being down here in Santa Tello
for a couple of days.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
Shacks, I got that quote from Magic Johnson. By the way,
do you.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Feel the same way about the women as Charles Barkley does?
Because I know Charles says the women down here fast.

Speaker 11 (59:31):
He's right, He's right about them. Oh man, oh man,
all right, three way. I know a lot of tortos,
but I love Tortos three three way tie between Nick
Rich and Buyers. We go to round four, right, Round four,
Shack Diesel Whack diesel trivia. There was one man who
was almost as good as me at the game of basketball.
How many rings did the great Bill Russell win? How

(59:53):
many rings? A ten, B eleven or C twelve?

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Nick? For the win?

Speaker 12 (01:00:01):
Yeah, let me do it.

Speaker 7 (01:00:02):
See see no damn fire for the steal in the wind.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
I think it's eleven. I think you just got your
twelfth win. Man. I know that's your fifteenth win. Rich.

Speaker 11 (01:00:15):
Is the one sit thirty so close unstoppable? Yeah, that's
one eleven championships in thirteen seasons.

Speaker 7 (01:00:21):
We're boss Buyer's fifteenth championship. Shack is nice having you
back in our studio.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Great to be here, Great to be here.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Thank you, Sick.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Maybe I'll see you next year.

Speaker 12 (01:00:30):
Maybe not a question?

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Yeah, go for it.

Speaker 12 (01:00:33):
Who's your favorite act? Because I loved when you were
with Oops from Flavor of Love even though she was
with Flavor of Love.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right, good answer.

Speaker 7 (01:00:44):
All right, Nick, We appreciate you playing there in Pennsylvania, playing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Playing in pucking nice Pennsylvania, all right, guys, I'm busy.
I gotta go.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
All right, thank sha, appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Sha damn shackle get big yo shag diesel yo later.
All right, that was awesome, that's all right, that's really great.
The Atlanta Braves are looking for a new mister Freeze.
Does everybody know who mister Freeze is? Because I think
they should, but I don't think they do.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
Is this the dude, because I didn't see the story
now you and Danny were talking about it. Is he
the guy that gives like the random fan like a
halfway major head start and then he catches them?

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Yes, yes, that's exactly who it is. So the Braves
have posted a job opening and they might have to
go to expresspros dot com because they're looking for a
new mister Freeze. Now, it's it's very rare that someone
beats mister Freeze, but that's exactly what it is. Rich.
It's that race you see on the warning track where
some goofy fan gets a head start, some forty sonth

(01:01:45):
year old guy pulls a hammy, falls on his face,
and mister Freeze goes, you know, flying by him.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Shoom, dude. I mean, I don't know if Antonio Brown
beats the charges. Maybe that's his only option.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Yeah, he could be the next mister Freeze. They're looking
for Get this ridge. You should sign up a mascot sprinter.
You're the school mascot in your kids' school.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
I have dressed up as the mascot, but I mean
you have to wear all span dex. I need to
do it. So I need to do some ad work
before I rock that cost.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
That's some outfit. You can't look like a It's not
a sausage race. It's mister Freeze. So here's the qualifications
of the responsibilities A right Atlanta Braves part time work,
which probably means mister Freeze gets no benefits. He's got
bad teeth. Event guest relations, fan development, mascot. Here's the
responsibilities as racetracks the Freeze entertain fans while performing in

(01:02:39):
the racetrack Beat the Freeze in game promotion. This promotion
requires the performer to sprint while raising a fan on
the field. Must be physically able to participate in the
racetrack Beat the Freeze before Braves home games. So that's
really the qualifications. I would imagine you have to be

(01:03:03):
at a certain level of fit and fast to be
mister Freeze. It doesn't say exactly what, but you can't
just go there and be yeah, I'm kind of fast.
You probably have to have a pretty stellar one hundred
yard dish forty times at least rich really quick.

Speaker 7 (01:03:17):
The first kid who commented on this post, yeah, it
says what are the hours?

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
Exactly? What a weird job?

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Here's a myrd question, Dandy g Like we all know
like red Panda who balances plates or you know, people
that do juggling acts at halftime. Let's be real here.
We know that the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders got a big
raise because of the show that Kevino loved on.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
Netflix America Sweetheart. Yeah, so let's do it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
Eighty one home games for the Braves.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
I think they quadrupled their pay if I'm not mistaken.
I forget the exact stat but it was significant, and
you know, it was a tough pill to swallow, but
still prideful for people that just missed that window. Dancers
for the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders, the dance squad or cheer team,
whatever you call it, who given years up making peanuts

(01:04:02):
and then all of a sudden, these other dancers come around,
they're making decent money.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
I have a question. Yeah, eighty home games, eighty one
home games. I'm gonna I'm gonna throw a number at you,
and you tell me if you think that's way too
little or maybe way too much. Just for okay, just
remember this person needs to be unbeatably fast, right, because.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
That's the whole physically fit.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Yeah, so unbeatably fast with a whole gimmick is like, yo,
they don't lose.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
I imagine you have to be able to represent the
organization in a particular fashion. That's that's cool with them,
you know what I mean, Like if you're mister Freeze,
like you have to be that and be working well
with kids and families and things like that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
All right, here's here's my number. And now you might
say way too little. I'm a chr. You may say
me way too much because he's doing one race a night.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
Yeah, part time, right, and you get all this coverage
on Sports Center and everything else.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
If they pay him two fifty a game, that's twenty
thousand dollars for the baseball season? Is that way too little?

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
Man? I was thinking less than that one race, that's it.
But what are you gonna give them.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
What are you gonna give him twenty bucks?

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
No, yeah, you're probably right, probably like two fifty.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
So let's say they pay them two hundred and fifty dollars, maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
Even three hundred through was three hundred times eighty, I'd
pay more than that twenty four thousand.

Speaker 5 (01:05:18):
You have to make yourself available for all these games
and like at different times, and you can't have another job.
That's like because he has the stadiums an time, I know,
but it just feels like it's a job that you
really have to slice out a chunk of time for.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
Right, So if you want to do fifty thousand dollars,
if you want to do fifty thousand dollars, cove divided
by let's say eighty games because you miss one, right,
that's six twenty five a game. You think they're gonna
pay some dude six to twenty five a game to
run a race in between half an inning.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
For one race. If you're a guy with some speed,
that's that's a good gig. That's not a bad part time.
Especially your baseball fan.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
Sam's right, you have to be You have to drive
to the stadium park, go in, put on your uniform,
your your little spandex eighty one times every year she
got warm up. I can't, we can't, we can never
go out for dinner because, uh, I guess Sam, I'm
at eighty one braves games. I don't know. Honestly, Sam
and Danny g throw number. What do he thinks a

(01:06:13):
fair number for mister mister Freeze?

Speaker 5 (01:06:16):
I'd say anywhere three to five hundred appearance.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
How much you page? How much is too much? How
much is rich get paid to be mister cheese?

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
What if I told you you go to it?

Speaker 13 (01:06:32):
Why here at the sausage reuss make some noise for
mister cheese, So to cheese.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
Let's say that's funny as hell. Let's say you go
to a kid's birthday party and they got some woman
dressed up as Elsa doing face paint, and she's like,
I'm Elsa, like some blonde woman.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
Yeah, I've I've hired that for my daughter's party. Is
probably like a G.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
Yeah, like five hundre it to one thousand dollars to
hire some womancial party.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
Yeah, I think I heard el Sana for at least
at least a G plus at least.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
What about some dude that makes balloon animals and does
car tricks with the kids like you. Gotta remember, mister
Freeze might make I don't know, that's a good question.
Your thoughts at Covin and Rich, how about that? How
about that?

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
And think about your weirdest jobs, hit us up at
Coveno and Rich your weirdest interviews, and thank you guys
for hanging out with us. We'll continue the show.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
Manyana perfect thus boot, I will see you guys later.
I'll see you tomorrow. Cove arribadreci baby, see you in

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
The promise Land, gut nak later