May 29, 2025 • 24 mins
(May 29, 2025)
Federal trade court blocks Trump from imposing sweeping tariffs under emergency powers law, U.S. to revoke Chinese student visas. Trump wants to attack big drug cartels. How can Mexico respond if it does? Single, young, and conservative: These people want to ‘Make America Hot Again.’
Federal trade court blocks Trump from imposing sweeping tariffs under emergency powers law, U.S. to revoke Chinese student visas. Trump wants to attack big drug cartels. How can Mexico respond if it does? Single, young, and conservative: These people want to ‘Make America Hot Again.’
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're list Saints camp I AM six forty the bill
handles show on demand on the iHeartRadio f CAMPI handle
here it is a Thursday, May twenty nine. Some of
the big stories we are looking at global warming. Oh yeah,
another record year, especially for the next five years with
(00:23):
the fossil fuels emissions.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah, we're there, to say the least.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
And another wrinkle in what's going on in Israel and
Gaza and the West Bank. Twenty two new Jewish settlements
in the occupied West Bank, biggest expansion in decades.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Even the illegal ones several that were there.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
As outposts, completely illegal even under Israeli law, have been
made legal.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Under a new law that was just passed. Oh yeah,
things are going to go on and on and on.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Okay, this is a wrinkle. And this is the trade
words and tariffs. Boy, this doesn't change every day. It
doesn't change that every day. It changes now as soon
as as a matter of fact, day one, when the
President declared emergencies across the board economically, seven lawsuits were filed.
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Trump responded and does respond, that he has the power
to act to arbitrarily tariff nations because there are emergent
It's an emergency situation. It's a national emergency that we have,
and he has the power under national emergency powers. A
federal court that was yesterday blocked Trump from imposing the
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sweeping tariffs under that emergency powers law.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
And here is what is going on.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
First of all, he wakes up in the morning and
here's a one hundred and fifty percent tariff. And two days later,
now we're going to bring it down to fifty percent.
And then the European Union is going to get hit
with fifty percent if they don't come to the table immediately,
Tim Cook of Apple, they're going to hit with twenty
five percent. And just it bounces all over the place,
and I mean on a daily basis. So that's rattled
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global financial markets and frustrated our trade partners, and broad
fears about inflation testify intensifying our economy slumping. So this
was a three judge panel that made this decision, and
it was the US Court of International Trade, and they
hear lawsuits on TEARFF specifically, and there were three judges,
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one appointed by Reagan, one appointed by Trump, one appointed
by Obama. And the reason that the president is invoking
all these tariffs is to force manufacturers to bring factory
jobs to the US, all right, No one can argue
with that and generate enough renovenue to reduce federal budget deficits,
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which is not going to happen under the budgets that
are being it contemplated now. And what he wants to
do is force other countries and negotiate agreements that favor
the US, even saying that if the terms from those
countries were unsatisfactory, he'll set the rates himself, individually, as
a person, he will set the rates, which he does,
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and a White House spokesperson said, the trade deficits amount
to a national emergency. And herein is the issue, and
that is the Trump administration effectively is arguing that the
president has unbridled power, economic power, power to deal with
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immigration or outside of what Congress normally has the power
to do and is mandated to do, because under several
different acts, if there is a national emergency, he has
additional powers and all he has.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
To do is declare everything a national emergency. That's it.
That's what he's doing.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
The tariffs national emergency, the border national emergency.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
It's easy. And the courts.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Oh, and then the argument is what I did when
I was president the first time around.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
National emergency done.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Now, of course, is going to go to the Supreme
Court and we'll see how far they go. They went
in his favor when he argued that those all of
those attacks on him, the lawsuits, and the criminality that
was accused that he was convicted of, all disappear because
as president, as long it is in the national scope,
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as long as he is acting as a president in
any national issue, he is allowed to do that and
he is exempt from any kind of prosecution.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
So all he has to do is saying I did
this as a national issue. Much like the.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Border and illegal migrants going over the border entering the
United States is an invasion, a foreign invasion. He invoked
a seventeen ninety eight act that was passed at the
early early part of our country, the Enemy's Alien Act,
which was has been used three times in the history
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of the United States, the War of eighteen twelve, World
War one, world War II, where there were genuine national emergencies.
Now do you argue that the border is a national emergency,
that this is an invasion. You may be against the border,
but do you really think a bunch of illegal aliens
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coming across the border somehow as an invasion of the
United States, and we are being attacked militarily, or our
economy is in such dire problems.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Because of lack of tariffs.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Unemployment has struck across the country. People have lost their jobs,
businesses have collapsed. Trump is there to save the United
States from utter ruin. As he said, he inherited the
worst economy in the history of the United States, worse
than the Great Depression, worse than the Depression of eighteen
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ninety three, worse than the Depression of eighteen seventy three,
the eighteen ninety three depression. The United States was going
to go bankrupt period, and it was JP Morgan that
came in and with a group of bankers literally loaned
the US government enough money to keep alive.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
The government just ran out of money.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
And there's a whole historical reason why we are on
the gold standard.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
The economy had collapsed.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
A lot of European money was coming into this country,
especially the railroads were funded by European money, and all
of Europe wanted their money back.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Gold.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Gold was leaving this country leaving nothing less. JP Morgan
comes in. That's a little bit more of an emergency.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
But nope.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Now businesses are collapsing, unemployment has exploded. We are in
the worst dire straits that we have ever been in
the history of United States.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Therefore, I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Declare a national emergency and i want complete powers, and
I'm taking it.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
And the court saying, hang on a minute, wait a minute.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
You know, you cannot declare a national emergency on everything,
and so far most of the tariffs, there were some
that were allowed under the Act, very specific portions of
the Act where the President was given some powers, but
across the board, No.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
It's going to go to the Supreme Court. That's it.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I can't wait for the argument that any case brought
before the Supreme Court against the against the administration is
a national emergency issue. Therefore the case cannot be brought up.
I know that's a maybe it's a little hyper you know,
hyperbole there, but I got to tell you the rest
of it is not. I mean, we have a whole
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different world, you know. I mean, we elected this president
who is going to change and has changed America completely.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Effectively. Congress, there there are no.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Three checks and balances where you have the judiciary of
the executive.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yet the legislative.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
The legislative has disappeared, it has been subsumed into the executive,
and now it's just the courts and the executive.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Oh, by the way, here's another question.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Since the courts have no policing powers and it's a
Department of Justice that invokes that's that in fact supports
the court decision. And what happens when Trump says I'm
not going to I'm not gonna follow court orders, which
is exactly what happened with that Venezuelan who was deported
by mistake, and a federal judge ordered the Venezuelan to
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be returned or at least ordered the government facilitated.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Nope, not a chance. That's court order. Nope, not a chance. Okay,
I knew Bill.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Oh. Actually, a new directive has come in from the
White House. The US is quote aggressively revoking Chinese student visas,
according to Secretary of State Marco Rubio.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
So I want to dive into that for a moment.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
First of all, we know that the Chinese have come
in the United States and have well, let's just say,
they've engaged in lots and loss of espionage, stealing trade secrets,
stealing technology, and then going back to China, We've known
that forever and nothing was ever done or very little
was done. Certainly not during Biden years, certainly not during
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the George Bush years, both George Bushes, certainly not during Clinton,
certainly not during Obama. So finally we have an administration says, okay,
we're putting a stop to that right now.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Now, this is the way they're doing it.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Chinese students, as a matter of fact, international students are
not going to get their student visas there. Not only
are not going to be accepted, they're going to be revoked.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
For those reasons. Are there some good reasons to revoke them.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Well, one of the reasons is that if you have
a third of the population, like Berkeley has a third
Chinese students coming in, that means a third American students
are not going to be able to come in. The
other side of that is these schools rely on Ford
and students because they pay full retail and the schools
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need the money. And it's going to be a double hit,
particularly since fed le money is going to stop going
to those schools because of the eprogram. And that's the
other issue. And so there there's a reason on both sides.
Now here's my question. As far as the espionage is concerned,
are these the students that do that? And I don't know.
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That has not been connected yet. I can understand Chinese
nationals moving into working in companies and being in a
position to steal secrets and technology. Can students do that?
How do they do that? And I don't know the answer,
and that has not come out yet. And so Rubio
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is saying, we're doing and again, this is all done
because it's a national emergency.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Of course it is, and here it is.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Rubio said that revocation will include those with connections to
the Chinese Communist Party, which is any official in or
studying in critical fields. So if you're studying technology, let's
say you're coming in and studying cybersecurity, that's a critical field. Therefore,
we don't want or the administration doesn't want these students here.
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And when we talk about one point one million foreign
students in the country, half are Chinese or Indian here
for undergrad, grad postgrad work in twenty twenty three, most
in California, most from China. In California, fifty one thousand
Chinese nationals make up more than thirty percent thirty three
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percent of the one hundred and forty one thousand foreign students,
and the school simply need the money. But at the
same time, is there a risk. I don't know the
risk yet I like to hear it like you go
into it.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
See, it's life is not that simple.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
It is for this administration. It's you know, you wake
up in the morning and let let's do this. Well, okay,
let's change our minds. Let's see what this is about.
The only thing I really like about this is what
ends up happening when Trump doesn't order, and I love this.
For example, he has asked for and accepted, or asked
for and has been accepted. His new bill is the
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Big Beautiful Bill, right, that's what it's called, the Big
Beautiful bill.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
This one.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Is called uh, the moo Goo Guy Gone bill for
Chinese residents who are here.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Did that work?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
No?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I thought it wasn't bad.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
All right? You give me the eh look, thanks, Neil.
Today is a lot of Trump in the administration, you know.
And obviously I have no problem, no problem attacking Trump.
But at the same time, I don't think I have
much of a problem agreeing. And I don't get much
credit for that because I get the emails saying, oh,
you look at it one sided, I tend not to.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
So.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
One of the issues that President Trump is doing, and
almost no other president has gone this far. I can't
think of any one that wants and that is going
against the drug cartels to the extent he wants to,
and included immigration. You cannot get drugs. I have friends
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who are drug addicts, many friends who are drug addicts.
They can't get drugs. It's just impossible. The border has
shut down. And then they are like zombies asking for drugs.
There they are in the three corner with signs will
work for drugs.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I mean, it's just stopped cold. And why is that?
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Well, one of the big reasons, the biggest reason is
President Trump said, Hey, bottom line is I'm going to
screw you over Mexico until you do something about it,
both in terms of illegal immigration as well as the
trafficking of drugs.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
And it has worked. Now has it gone too far?
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Because one of the threats the tariffs I worked. Economic issues. Yeah,
that's worked. How about this one. If you don't curtail
it enough, I'm going to invade Mexico militarily.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Oops. That was a little problematic because let's say he does.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
And so now you have a president Claudia Scheinbaum, first
woman president in Mexican history, as well as the first
Jewish president, and she is saying, that's a tough one.
This is our sovereignty. He has vowed to wage war
on cartels and he argues they have total control in Mexico.
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And I think that's true. Pose a grave threat to
the US national security.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Also true.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I don't know if it's akin to an invasion, but
certainly national security. So Mexico is cracked down, thousands of
troops northern frontier. Remember the twenty nine accused cartel members
shipped to the US, completely skirting due process guarantees in Mexico. Also,
Shinbaum has agreed to expanded US surveillance flights CIA drones
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over the Mexican territory. But the bottom line is sending
in the US army to Mexico to fight the cartels
boots on the ground. She said, that's a red line.
Sovereignty is not sold. Now that has been widely praised
in Mexico. Mexico is not for sale.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Much like the.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Prime Minister of Canada saying, now we're not going to
become the fifty first state. But in reality, she doesn't
have a lot of room. Where does she go, what
does she do? Assuming that happens, he says good things
about her. President of Mexico is a lovely woman, but
she is so afraid of the cartels she can't even
think straight. We know the cartels have that much power.
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You know, in Colombia they owned the government owned it
straight out. And when you look at parts of Mexico,
the Sinaloa Cartel, for example, they control government, the police,
all of it. Because their lovely phrase is either gold
or lead. Either you take our money, we bribe you
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and you let us to what we want to do,
or we're going to kill you.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
It's hard to say no to that.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
So let's say that happens, and Trump has contemplated launching
militarily against the Mexican cartels for a while. According to
his former Defense secretary Mark Esper, in twenty twenty, you
talked about firing missiles at drug labs. And for years
Mexican police have and sometimes with US assistants, have been
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destroying drug labs, have been taking out kingpins. It doesn't
seem to have any apparent effect. Now, what does Mexico do?
And by the way, this isn't just pie in the
sky stuff. I think of all the presidents where this
would happen, I believe with this one it could very
well happen. And for the reasons he says, drug smuggling
and illegal aliens. Okay, you know, I don't think the
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illegal migrant stuff is a national emergency.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I can see where the drug smuggling is.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
By the way, he includes Canada in that too, for
some reason, that fentanyl out of Canada. Where do they
find three vials of fentanyl coming over the border a
few pounds versus tons? And I don't know how much
illegal immigration comes in from Canada.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I would think it the other way around. But you know,
so be it. So what does she do? What can't
she do? Not a lot?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
What is she going to stop relations with the United
States and cut off her nose to spite her knows?
Speaker 2 (19:02):
What does it?
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Cut off her nose despite her feet? I know it's
one of those phrases her face. Yeah, okay, thank you
for that. She does not there's no room because whatever
she does that would be contrary to the interests of
the United States.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
She gets hurt a whole lot more.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Because Mexico, Mexico needs a US a whole lot more
than the US needs Mexico.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
That one.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I agree with President Trump. There is no issue. So
is it going to happen? Who the hell knows, But
I guess for her on a political level, this is
good stuff because the country has rallied around her. You're
doing what's right, You're holding up Mexico, and you're fighting
across the board. All right, fair enough, okay, I want
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to tell you about being conservative and getting laid. Now,
sex among conservative is always in the missionary position.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
As you know, there are and there is.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
A group of young conservatives and the concept is for
them to meet. Now it is in many circles. You
cannot admit that you are of one political persuasion or
the other. For example, I happen to live in Orange
County and I happen to have a wife who is
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very liberal. And when we first moved during the election,
it was Trump flags all the way up and down
the street, and she had a Biden flag.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
In the front of our yard.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Now, thank god we had fire insurance because it was
not a pleasant situation.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
The same thing if.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
You're a conservative, and you've got to be a little
careful about what you say because we're so polarized. So
now there is a group of people, and there is
I'm going to talk about this one because this is
a fun Wall Street Journal Act article. And in Manhattan
there is a club that, well they have the sit downs.
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They have these little get togethers where people get together
and sort of meet each other. It's pickup bar, but
it's a pickup bar for conservatives, conservative young people. And
that's brand new and they it's make America Hot Again.
And YMCA plays on the speakers in the bar, and
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it is it's basically a.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Mixer, but it's only a mixer for.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Conservatives because they really have no other place to go conservatives.
Conservatives are vilified in many circles. New York is a
pretty conservative place. Go to the West Side, I mean liberal,
Sorry about that. New York is a pretty liberal place.
I mean it's about as blue as you can get,
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not quite as California. Go to the west side of
Los Angeles and I have a club that that that
pushes conservative values.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
You're not going to do it, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
I think the analogy is almost like in the fifties,
the clubs that cater to game in where they had
to keep it secret. Now, not to that extent as
what happened then, but it is a it is a
time where you have to.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Keep your politics to yourself like I've never seen before.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
So the secretary for the New York Young Republican Club says,
you know, ever since before the election when Trump came
to New York a lot more often campaign here.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Now it's easier to be outwardly conservative and outwardly Republican.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
But still, depending where you are, you've got to be
very careful on either side.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Now, I don't know of any liberal bars or clubs.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I don't think you have to because we're in southern California.
Even here in Orange County, it's now purple. Where it
used to be about as red as you can get,
it's purple. There are very few outright red areas, So
you know, where are they going to meet? Are there
any conservative like grinder websites out there?
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Or what are the other websites where you beat people? Neil,
do you do you know of any.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Conservative you know, sort of hookup websites where chat rooms
kind of thing, internet.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Clubs, Because I don't do those. I never have. Yeah,
I don't think you have either. I know I'm an
independent that's married or happy years.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yeah, never, I've never done that because you know, I'm
so afraid of going on the internet and even lying
about what I look like and how much money I make.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Everybody says no to me, that's just not gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
On a quick research, there is the right Stuff app
for conservatives.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Oh really, it's a it's a meetup app. Yeah, it's
called the Right Stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
It's a dating app, dating app for American Republicans and conservatives.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Does it say no peeing in the shower? It doesn't
go that far because conservatives don't do that, you know.
It says, okay, there's Christian mingle. If you consider that.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
That's definitely no peing in the shower. All right, KF
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here it is a Thursday, May twenty nine. Some of
the big stories we are looking at global warming. Oh yeah,
another record year, especially for the next five years with
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the fossil fuels emissions.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah, we're there, to say the least.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
And another wrinkle in what's going on in Israel and
Gaza and the West Bank. Twenty two new Jewish settlements
in the occupied West Bank, biggest expansion in decades.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Even the illegal ones several that were there.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
As outposts, completely illegal even under Israeli law, have been
made legal.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Under a new law that was just passed. Oh yeah,
things are going to go on and on and on.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Okay, this is a wrinkle. And this is the trade
words and tariffs. Boy, this doesn't change every day. It
doesn't change that every day. It changes now as soon
as as a matter of fact, day one, when the
President declared emergencies across the board economically, seven lawsuits were filed.
(01:17):
Trump responded and does respond, that he has the power
to act to arbitrarily tariff nations because there are emergent
It's an emergency situation. It's a national emergency that we have,
and he has the power under national emergency powers. A
federal court that was yesterday blocked Trump from imposing the
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sweeping tariffs under that emergency powers law.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
And here is what is going on.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
First of all, he wakes up in the morning and
here's a one hundred and fifty percent tariff. And two days later,
now we're going to bring it down to fifty percent.
And then the European Union is going to get hit
with fifty percent if they don't come to the table immediately,
Tim Cook of Apple, they're going to hit with twenty
five percent. And just it bounces all over the place,
and I mean on a daily basis. So that's rattled
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global financial markets and frustrated our trade partners, and broad
fears about inflation testify intensifying our economy slumping. So this
was a three judge panel that made this decision, and
it was the US Court of International Trade, and they
hear lawsuits on TEARFF specifically, and there were three judges,
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one appointed by Reagan, one appointed by Trump, one appointed
by Obama. And the reason that the president is invoking
all these tariffs is to force manufacturers to bring factory
jobs to the US, all right, No one can argue
with that and generate enough renovenue to reduce federal budget deficits,
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which is not going to happen under the budgets that
are being it contemplated now. And what he wants to
do is force other countries and negotiate agreements that favor
the US, even saying that if the terms from those
countries were unsatisfactory, he'll set the rates himself, individually, as
a person, he will set the rates, which he does,
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and a White House spokesperson said, the trade deficits amount
to a national emergency. And herein is the issue, and
that is the Trump administration effectively is arguing that the
president has unbridled power, economic power, power to deal with
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immigration or outside of what Congress normally has the power
to do and is mandated to do, because under several
different acts, if there is a national emergency, he has
additional powers and all he has.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
To do is declare everything a national emergency. That's it.
That's what he's doing.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
The tariffs national emergency, the border national emergency.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
It's easy. And the courts.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Oh, and then the argument is what I did when
I was president the first time around.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
National emergency done.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Now, of course, is going to go to the Supreme
Court and we'll see how far they go. They went
in his favor when he argued that those all of
those attacks on him, the lawsuits, and the criminality that
was accused that he was convicted of, all disappear because
as president, as long it is in the national scope,
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as long as he is acting as a president in
any national issue, he is allowed to do that and
he is exempt from any kind of prosecution.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
So all he has to do is saying I did
this as a national issue. Much like the.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Border and illegal migrants going over the border entering the
United States is an invasion, a foreign invasion. He invoked
a seventeen ninety eight act that was passed at the
early early part of our country, the Enemy's Alien Act,
which was has been used three times in the history
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of the United States, the War of eighteen twelve, World
War one, world War II, where there were genuine national emergencies.
Now do you argue that the border is a national emergency,
that this is an invasion. You may be against the border,
but do you really think a bunch of illegal aliens
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coming across the border somehow as an invasion of the
United States, and we are being attacked militarily, or our
economy is in such dire problems.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Because of lack of tariffs.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Unemployment has struck across the country. People have lost their jobs,
businesses have collapsed. Trump is there to save the United
States from utter ruin. As he said, he inherited the
worst economy in the history of the United States, worse
than the Great Depression, worse than the Depression of eighteen
(06:26):
ninety three, worse than the Depression of eighteen seventy three,
the eighteen ninety three depression. The United States was going
to go bankrupt period, and it was JP Morgan that
came in and with a group of bankers literally loaned
the US government enough money to keep alive.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
The government just ran out of money.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
And there's a whole historical reason why we are on
the gold standard.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
The economy had collapsed.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
A lot of European money was coming into this country,
especially the railroads were funded by European money, and all
of Europe wanted their money back.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Gold.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Gold was leaving this country leaving nothing less. JP Morgan
comes in. That's a little bit more of an emergency.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
But nope.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Now businesses are collapsing, unemployment has exploded. We are in
the worst dire straits that we have ever been in
the history of United States.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Therefore, I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Declare a national emergency and i want complete powers, and
I'm taking it.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
And the court saying, hang on a minute, wait a minute.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
You know, you cannot declare a national emergency on everything,
and so far most of the tariffs, there were some
that were allowed under the Act, very specific portions of
the Act where the President was given some powers, but
across the board, No.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
It's going to go to the Supreme Court. That's it.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I can't wait for the argument that any case brought
before the Supreme Court against the against the administration is
a national emergency issue. Therefore the case cannot be brought up.
I know that's a maybe it's a little hyper you know,
hyperbole there, but I got to tell you the rest
of it is not. I mean, we have a whole
(08:22):
different world, you know. I mean, we elected this president
who is going to change and has changed America completely.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Effectively. Congress, there there are no.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Three checks and balances where you have the judiciary of
the executive.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yet the legislative.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
The legislative has disappeared, it has been subsumed into the executive,
and now it's just the courts and the executive.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Oh, by the way, here's another question.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Since the courts have no policing powers and it's a
Department of Justice that invokes that's that in fact supports
the court decision. And what happens when Trump says I'm
not going to I'm not gonna follow court orders, which
is exactly what happened with that Venezuelan who was deported
by mistake, and a federal judge ordered the Venezuelan to
(09:15):
be returned or at least ordered the government facilitated.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Nope, not a chance. That's court order. Nope, not a chance. Okay,
I knew Bill.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Oh. Actually, a new directive has come in from the
White House. The US is quote aggressively revoking Chinese student visas,
according to Secretary of State Marco Rubio.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
So I want to dive into that for a moment.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
First of all, we know that the Chinese have come
in the United States and have well, let's just say,
they've engaged in lots and loss of espionage, stealing trade secrets,
stealing technology, and then going back to China, We've known
that forever and nothing was ever done or very little
was done. Certainly not during Biden years, certainly not during
(10:04):
the George Bush years, both George Bushes, certainly not during Clinton,
certainly not during Obama. So finally we have an administration says, okay,
we're putting a stop to that right now.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Now, this is the way they're doing it.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Chinese students, as a matter of fact, international students are
not going to get their student visas there. Not only
are not going to be accepted, they're going to be revoked.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
For those reasons. Are there some good reasons to revoke them.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Well, one of the reasons is that if you have
a third of the population, like Berkeley has a third
Chinese students coming in, that means a third American students
are not going to be able to come in. The
other side of that is these schools rely on Ford
and students because they pay full retail and the schools
(10:56):
need the money. And it's going to be a double hit,
particularly since fed le money is going to stop going
to those schools because of the eprogram. And that's the
other issue. And so there there's a reason on both sides.
Now here's my question. As far as the espionage is concerned,
are these the students that do that? And I don't know.
(11:19):
That has not been connected yet. I can understand Chinese
nationals moving into working in companies and being in a
position to steal secrets and technology. Can students do that?
How do they do that? And I don't know the answer,
and that has not come out yet. And so Rubio
(11:44):
is saying, we're doing and again, this is all done
because it's a national emergency.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Of course it is, and here it is.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Rubio said that revocation will include those with connections to
the Chinese Communist Party, which is any official in or
studying in critical fields. So if you're studying technology, let's
say you're coming in and studying cybersecurity, that's a critical field. Therefore,
we don't want or the administration doesn't want these students here.
(12:18):
And when we talk about one point one million foreign
students in the country, half are Chinese or Indian here
for undergrad, grad postgrad work in twenty twenty three, most
in California, most from China. In California, fifty one thousand
Chinese nationals make up more than thirty percent thirty three
(12:41):
percent of the one hundred and forty one thousand foreign students,
and the school simply need the money. But at the
same time, is there a risk. I don't know the
risk yet I like to hear it like you go
into it.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
See, it's life is not that simple.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
It is for this administration. It's you know, you wake
up in the morning and let let's do this. Well, okay,
let's change our minds. Let's see what this is about.
The only thing I really like about this is what
ends up happening when Trump doesn't order, and I love this.
For example, he has asked for and accepted, or asked
for and has been accepted. His new bill is the
(13:17):
Big Beautiful Bill, right, that's what it's called, the Big
Beautiful bill.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
This one.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Is called uh, the moo Goo Guy Gone bill for
Chinese residents who are here.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Did that work?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
No?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I thought it wasn't bad.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
All right? You give me the eh look, thanks, Neil.
Today is a lot of Trump in the administration, you know.
And obviously I have no problem, no problem attacking Trump.
But at the same time, I don't think I have
much of a problem agreeing. And I don't get much
credit for that because I get the emails saying, oh,
you look at it one sided, I tend not to.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
So.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
One of the issues that President Trump is doing, and
almost no other president has gone this far. I can't
think of any one that wants and that is going
against the drug cartels to the extent he wants to,
and included immigration. You cannot get drugs. I have friends
(14:25):
who are drug addicts, many friends who are drug addicts.
They can't get drugs. It's just impossible. The border has
shut down. And then they are like zombies asking for drugs.
There they are in the three corner with signs will
work for drugs.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I mean, it's just stopped cold. And why is that?
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Well, one of the big reasons, the biggest reason is
President Trump said, Hey, bottom line is I'm going to
screw you over Mexico until you do something about it,
both in terms of illegal immigration as well as the
trafficking of drugs.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
And it has worked. Now has it gone too far?
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Because one of the threats the tariffs I worked. Economic issues. Yeah,
that's worked. How about this one. If you don't curtail
it enough, I'm going to invade Mexico militarily.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Oops. That was a little problematic because let's say he does.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
And so now you have a president Claudia Scheinbaum, first
woman president in Mexican history, as well as the first
Jewish president, and she is saying, that's a tough one.
This is our sovereignty. He has vowed to wage war
on cartels and he argues they have total control in Mexico.
(15:52):
And I think that's true. Pose a grave threat to
the US national security.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Also true.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I don't know if it's akin to an invasion, but
certainly national security. So Mexico is cracked down, thousands of
troops northern frontier. Remember the twenty nine accused cartel members
shipped to the US, completely skirting due process guarantees in Mexico. Also,
Shinbaum has agreed to expanded US surveillance flights CIA drones
(16:26):
over the Mexican territory. But the bottom line is sending
in the US army to Mexico to fight the cartels
boots on the ground. She said, that's a red line.
Sovereignty is not sold. Now that has been widely praised
in Mexico. Mexico is not for sale.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Much like the.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Prime Minister of Canada saying, now we're not going to
become the fifty first state. But in reality, she doesn't
have a lot of room. Where does she go, what
does she do? Assuming that happens, he says good things
about her. President of Mexico is a lovely woman, but
she is so afraid of the cartels she can't even
think straight. We know the cartels have that much power.
(17:09):
You know, in Colombia they owned the government owned it
straight out. And when you look at parts of Mexico,
the Sinaloa Cartel, for example, they control government, the police,
all of it. Because their lovely phrase is either gold
or lead. Either you take our money, we bribe you
(17:31):
and you let us to what we want to do,
or we're going to kill you.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
It's hard to say no to that.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
So let's say that happens, and Trump has contemplated launching
militarily against the Mexican cartels for a while. According to
his former Defense secretary Mark Esper, in twenty twenty, you
talked about firing missiles at drug labs. And for years
Mexican police have and sometimes with US assistants, have been
(17:59):
destroying drug labs, have been taking out kingpins. It doesn't
seem to have any apparent effect. Now, what does Mexico do?
And by the way, this isn't just pie in the
sky stuff. I think of all the presidents where this
would happen, I believe with this one it could very
well happen. And for the reasons he says, drug smuggling
and illegal aliens. Okay, you know, I don't think the
(18:22):
illegal migrant stuff is a national emergency.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I can see where the drug smuggling is.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
By the way, he includes Canada in that too, for
some reason, that fentanyl out of Canada. Where do they
find three vials of fentanyl coming over the border a
few pounds versus tons? And I don't know how much
illegal immigration comes in from Canada.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I would think it the other way around. But you know,
so be it. So what does she do? What can't
she do? Not a lot?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
What is she going to stop relations with the United
States and cut off her nose to spite her knows?
Speaker 2 (19:02):
What does it?
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Cut off her nose despite her feet? I know it's
one of those phrases her face. Yeah, okay, thank you
for that. She does not there's no room because whatever
she does that would be contrary to the interests of
the United States.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
She gets hurt a whole lot more.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Because Mexico, Mexico needs a US a whole lot more
than the US needs Mexico.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
That one.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I agree with President Trump. There is no issue. So
is it going to happen? Who the hell knows, But
I guess for her on a political level, this is
good stuff because the country has rallied around her. You're
doing what's right, You're holding up Mexico, and you're fighting
across the board. All right, fair enough, okay, I want
(19:49):
to tell you about being conservative and getting laid. Now,
sex among conservative is always in the missionary position.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
As you know, there are and there is.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
A group of young conservatives and the concept is for
them to meet. Now it is in many circles. You
cannot admit that you are of one political persuasion or
the other. For example, I happen to live in Orange
County and I happen to have a wife who is
(20:23):
very liberal. And when we first moved during the election,
it was Trump flags all the way up and down
the street, and she had a Biden flag.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
In the front of our yard.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Now, thank god we had fire insurance because it was
not a pleasant situation.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
The same thing if.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
You're a conservative, and you've got to be a little
careful about what you say because we're so polarized. So
now there is a group of people, and there is
I'm going to talk about this one because this is
a fun Wall Street Journal Act article. And in Manhattan
there is a club that, well they have the sit downs.
(21:07):
They have these little get togethers where people get together
and sort of meet each other. It's pickup bar, but
it's a pickup bar for conservatives, conservative young people. And
that's brand new and they it's make America Hot Again.
And YMCA plays on the speakers in the bar, and
(21:32):
it is it's basically a.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Mixer, but it's only a mixer for.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Conservatives because they really have no other place to go conservatives.
Conservatives are vilified in many circles. New York is a
pretty conservative place. Go to the West Side, I mean liberal,
Sorry about that. New York is a pretty liberal place.
I mean it's about as blue as you can get,
(21:56):
not quite as California. Go to the west side of
Los Angeles and I have a club that that that
pushes conservative values.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
You're not going to do it, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
I think the analogy is almost like in the fifties,
the clubs that cater to game in where they had
to keep it secret. Now, not to that extent as
what happened then, but it is a it is a
time where you have to.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Keep your politics to yourself like I've never seen before.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
So the secretary for the New York Young Republican Club says,
you know, ever since before the election when Trump came
to New York a lot more often campaign here.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Now it's easier to be outwardly conservative and outwardly Republican.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
But still, depending where you are, you've got to be
very careful on either side.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Now, I don't know of any liberal bars or clubs.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I don't think you have to because we're in southern California.
Even here in Orange County, it's now purple. Where it
used to be about as red as you can get,
it's purple. There are very few outright red areas, So
you know, where are they going to meet? Are there
any conservative like grinder websites out there?
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Or what are the other websites where you beat people? Neil,
do you do you know of any.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Conservative you know, sort of hookup websites where chat rooms
kind of thing, internet.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Clubs, Because I don't do those. I never have. Yeah,
I don't think you have either. I know I'm an
independent that's married or happy years.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yeah, never, I've never done that because you know, I'm
so afraid of going on the internet and even lying
about what I look like and how much money I make.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Everybody says no to me, that's just not gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
On a quick research, there is the right Stuff app
for conservatives.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Oh really, it's a it's a meetup app. Yeah, it's
called the Right Stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
It's a dating app, dating app for American Republicans and conservatives.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Does it say no peeing in the shower? It doesn't
go that far because conservatives don't do that, you know.
It says, okay, there's Christian mingle. If you consider that.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
That's definitely no peing in the shower. All right, KF
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