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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the inside. Ryan Bridge new
for twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City,
New Zealand's furniture beds and a play at store us
Dogs'd be.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Good morning at a six after five. Welcome to your
Wednesday morning. I'll lead interview this morning before six how
much the abuse compo package could cost the taxpayer. Also
this morning we're looking at should political parties get taxpayer
cash for TV ads at election time? Guess who says
yes and guess who says no. We're also looking at
a Germany they're finally getting an election date. It looks
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like also house price profits, who's making them and how much.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
The agenda.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
It is Wednesday, the thirteenth of November. Thirty five people
have died in China. Forty three have been injured. A
guy was upset about his divorce settlement drove his car
into a crowd at a sports center. Now senses are
busy sweeping this from the internet, and this BBC reporter
copped it at the scene.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
It has happened, unfortunately in China.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Before there are these copycat mass attack and then we
have this type of thing of the government trying to
stop it from happening.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Woman.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
It's on woman, and that was the end of his
live cross speaking of coppying it cop this. The president
of Azerbaijan, which is hosting the climate change conference we
spoke about yesterday, raked everyone up by defending the oil
and gas industry in front of all the environmentalists and
the world leaders listening.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Fake news media of the country which is number one
oil and gas producer in the world and produces thirty
times more Oiljan call us.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
That's with Steep. He said, it's God's gift to them.
Why shouldn't they get it out of the ground there
the twenty four biggest oil producer in the world. He's
got a point, doesn't he. Why should the Aussies get
to extract iron ore the Nordic States their minerals, and
not Azerbaijan and the oil and gas if there's demand,
Prepare for major congestion across our biggest city this morning.
(02:19):
Two lanes of the Harbor Bridge will close. Public transport
will be affected, a warning to delay travel. It's especially
worrying for those who've got NCA exams. I'll tell you
exactly what I think about this. Just before the news
at five point thirty this morning. The race for the
US House of Reps is still ongoing. It's still looking
likely Republicans will take control. They've got two hundred and
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fourteen if the two hundred and eighteen majority needed, with
Democrats slightly behind on two hundred and five seats. More
than a dozen races still to be called, but the
majority will be slim here and it could cause problems
for Trump. More on that shortly.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
The first word on the News of the Day in
early edition with Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture
beds and a playing store New Dog Zivvy.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Core Logic's Pain and Gain report out this morning. Vendor
is not exactly creaming. It not like the good old
days during COVID when everyone was just making noodles of money.
So this is the numbers comparing quarter three to quarter
two on paper profit. Quarter three you had ninety point
two percent of properties being sold for more than their
original purchase price on on paper profit ninety point two percent.
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Quarter two it was ninety one point eight percent. So
slightly fewer properties are making it on paper profit, and
that means that actually most are making a profit, although
it's at it's lowest percentage since twenty fifteen. And you
must remember that though the prices have dropped in the
past couple of years, as that we've come off the
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highs of post COVID. Most people own a home for
eight to nine years and that means that they bought
it pre COVID, which means the prices were lower then,
which means the prices are still higher now. That's why
such a large proportion is still making a profit. What
you wouldn't want to have done is border house obviously
at the peak of the market during COVID and then
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having to sell it now, although normally people are buying
and selling into the same market anyway. So there you go.
Those are the new numbers out this morning. Also this
morning Wellington Airport Wellington Council faulty towers. What on Earth?
I saw this headline and I thought they can't be
for real, They can't be serious. Wellington Airport sale still possible,
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according according to the council's chest financial officer, Wellington City
Council's Chief Financial Officer Andrea Reeves. This is from Aharon
Zed says it's important to note that both the sale
and partial sale of Wellington Airport are still on the table.
Council's new Crown Observer, Lindsay McKenzie, starts work on Wednesday. God,
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he's got his work cut out from isn't there eleven
after five Brian brid I don't know. Good luck Wellington. Hey,
we'll talk about the traffic in Auckland a little later on.
That's just before the news at five point thirty. Also Germany,
we've been following this in the last couple of days.
We finally have a date for their snap election. Do
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you call it a snap election if it's in late February?
Doesn't sound that snappy, does it. It's only November anyway.
This is because ol F Schultz fired as minister. He
was in a three way coalition. That meant the coalition
collapsed because that minister was from another party. He's basically
it was over a big budget hole. So he's basically
in the Schiser because his poll numbers aren't that great.
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But he wants to run again and his party supports
him to run again, so that'll be happening, they say.
In February twelve minutes after five, we debate the taxpayer
funding of election ads.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Next on your radio, and online on iHeartRadio earlier it
Isahay with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture
beds and a playing store news talks.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
That'd be fourteen after five. So Justin Welby, who's the
Archbishop of Canterbury, has resigned overnight. If you're just joining
us this morning, Justin Welby's resigned, you would have heard
this in the news. The last couple of days has
been pressure mounting. There was a Christian summer camp decades ago.
There was a volunteer that abused some young people and
Justin Welby as head. Basically the Church of England failed
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to properly investigate it, and as did his predecessors. The
bigger problem for the church now is actually their attendance.
Attendance at the Church of England that the Anglicans is
down a fifth in Britain alone since twenty nineteen. Their
followers in America and Africa have been upset because there's
a round between the progressive side of the church and
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the more conservative side. You know, do you allow women clerics?
That kind of thing? Hard to run a conservative church
in the modern age. I would have thought anyway that
you go the Archbishop of Canterbury has resigned overnight. It's
called a past five spray and bridge. The row brewing
this morning over taxpayer funding for political party campaign ads
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like this gem from twenty seventeen. We can do.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Better, better healthcare, better schools, better.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Transport, cleaner rivers and homes for all. I am ready,
We're all ready. Let's do this. The ACT Party is
calling for an end to the broadcast allocation for election campaigns.
Acting P Todd Stevenson suggested to the Justice Select Committee
that this be scrapped. Labor and the Greens oppose it.
(07:40):
Todd is with us this morning.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Good morning, good morning, fine, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
No worries. So this is what four million dollars every
three years? Is it a waste of money?
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Absolutely right, Look it's a total rought. I mean, the
taxpayer does not need to be forking out, you know,
just over four million dollars every year for political parties
to pay for their TV and radio ads.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
So is it a principal thing for you? You don't
think that this is the type of thing we should
be forking out for as taxpayers.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Absolutely, Well it's two things. Ryan. It's definitely a principal thing,
it should never have been put in place. It was
put in place for the first MMP election. But the
other thing is technology has moved on, and so political
parties are able to spend as much money as they
want on say digital advertising, so the Internet actually are
streaming services, et cetera. But you're only allowed to pay
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the money that the taxpayer gives you on TV and
radio broadcasts. And so it's really too it's principled, we
just shouldn't be doing it. But secondly it's also just
hasn't moved with the times.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
How much of the taxpayer funding did that use last election?
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Yep, we got just over three hundred and fifty thousand
dollars Ryan, And again we took that because it's only
on TV and radio.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
But you said it was a principal thing.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Yes, but again we would be restricted, so we can't
spend their own money, which ACTS always wanted to do, Ryan,
So before it was actually introduced before the first MMP
election to stop ACT spending its own money on TV
and radio. And so if we didn't use our allocation,
there's no way we could be on Yeah, but the
running ads or TV TV stations.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
But surely for a party about smaller government, lower taxes,
cutting wasteful spending, you'd take the hit for what you
call your principles.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Well, we don't think that would be fair because if
we couldn't actually get over any right, Well.
Speaker 7 (09:30):
Let's talk about fairness then, is it is it fear
that a party like the Labor Party who doesn't get
as much in fact, only got as much as many
donations in terms of valuers act? Is it fear that
a party like that wouldn't have the same opportunities you
guys would to to you know, buy broadcast allocations because
they don't get as much donations.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Yeah, absolutely, that would be fair. I mean that's the
whole point of a political party. You put out a
set of policies, a set of ideas, and you ask
people to support them in One of the ways they
do that is make donations. It's entirely, it's entirely the
way the political process goes in as parton yet.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
I know it is, But is it fair? Is it
fair if you have a small number of wealthy donors
to one particular party versus a large number of perhaps
lower income donors to another. I mean it's it's David
and Goliath, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Well, I think that's different parties will have different types
of supporters. I mean, I know for a fact, ACT
got lots of small donations from lots of people.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah, but you've also got a million dollars. You also
got a million dollars in one day and fifty and
one hundred thousand dollars allocations from billionaires and stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Well.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Absolutely, but that's all all disclosed, is all properly done,
And I think that shows the level of support some
of the policies that that's cooked up. I mean that's
I think that's entirely the point. Right parties have to
go out and they have to get supporters who support
their visions for New Zealand parties. I agree with you that
they want to put place.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I agree with that, but surely you want to fear fight.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Well, this is actually making sure it is a sea fight.
I mean last election, Labour got one point two million
dollars to spend on TV and radio. So we want
to we want to level the playing field in this area.
And so well, lot parties raise money, they can spend
it on what they what they want, including TV and radio.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
If they choose to. All Right, Todd, look forward to
having this debate with Labor and the Greens if they'll
come on with me. Thanks so much for your time.
I appreciate it. Todd Stevenson, the Act Party MP says,
let's get rid of the taxpayer funded wrought. That is
the broadcast allocation. What do you reckon? Nine two? Nine
two is the number to text?
Speaker 1 (11:33):
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Speaker 2 (11:41):
News talks, Hi'd be twenty two after five year on
news talks, heai'd be Lots happening around the world overnight.
Environmentalists are sad and upsets. This has nothing to do
with cop by the Way, which is happening in Azerbaijan.
This is in Holland. So tears outside of Dutch court.
Why Well, the court had ruled in favor of environmentalists
who were trying to get Shell to cut its carbon
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emissions by forty five percent. And can imagine for a
company like Shell that's not exactly great for the bottom line?
Is that? So anyway, they appealed. So the court has
now ordered reversed its decision and said no, actually you
don't have to cut your emissions by forty five percent,
So they've overturned the original landmark case. So that's why
the environmentalists are crying outside court because they wanted Shell
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to be able to And the problem here really is
how can you single out one particular company for a
global issue. And this was the point that Shell made
in court, which the judge clearly agreed with. How can
you say climate change and just you Fonterra in New
Zealand must have your profits and just you Shell in
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Holland must have your profits. It doesn't It's not fair,
is that you can't do it like that? Nineteen ninety
two is the number to text. Lots of your feedback
coming in On the issue of campaign donations, Sorry I
should say broadcast allocation for political parties during the campaign.
We'll get to that in a second. But have you
listened to this Trump voter previously a voter for the Democrats,
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lifelong voter for the Democrats. Mother voted for the Dems,
and now she's gone Trump. She owns a small business.
Have a listen.
Speaker 8 (13:19):
Inflation is down by more than half, interest rates are falling,
Mortgage rates are falling, wages are going up.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Are you not feeling that?
Speaker 8 (13:28):
I don't feel it. No, I don't feel it. I
don't feel it at all. Everybody I talked to it
and nobody's wages went up. But we had four years
of this, I mean four years gas was super high. Yes,
it just went down now, but what the past four
three and a half years it was up.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
It's interesting, isn't it, because the media has looked at
the numbers and gone, well, you know, you look at
that and you say things are improving. Then the headline
numbers are coming down, but on the ground there's a
leg people don't feel it. And I think the same
thing is true in New right now. You know our
numbers back in band we're told in terms of inflation,
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all those sorts of things. Are people feeling better off, wealthier?
Are they running out and the spending? No, not really,
although we did have a slight uptick in retail spending
for October. Those numbers out this morning, up thirty nine
million dollars. That's points six percent, largely driven by hospitality,
which was up two percent, or twenty four million dollars.
It is twenty four after five. You're on news Talks
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You're on News Talks HEB. It is twenty six minutes
after five. Commuter chaos. It's one of the prices we
must pay for living in a democracy. I know this
won't be popular with Aucklanders this morning, or others around
the country where this hikoy is heading, but it's a
cost we must be here. They're closing two lanes of
the Harbor Bridge this morning, and if you've got kids
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getting to an NCA exam, then you will be fuming
about this. But let's remember this is a one off protest.
It's not like those dickheads from the Public Rail or
whatever they were in Wellington, remember them. They repeatedly shut
down the motorways. They did it time and time again.
They repeatedly stopped the ambulances from getting to call out,
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the kidney patients from getting to dialysis. They deserved to
be swept to the curb, and it seems like for
the most part they have been, which is a good thing.
This is a one off from a group of people
who feel rightly or wrongly, that they're getting a hard
time from this government. They feel they're not being heard
in our democracy, and whether you agree with that or
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not is besides the point. The point is we live
in a democracy and the right to protest is well.
Are aright. It can be an annoying one, but the
minute you say you can't do it, we all lose.
If we learn anything through COVID, it's that this whole
system is rather fragile. When people feel ostracized or maligned,
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we do better to listen rather than suppress and silence
and dissent. Ran Bridge twenty eight after five year on
news Talk said, b just for some specific information for you,
the two lanes northbound lanes will be closed. We're not
sure exactly what time that is happening this morning. The
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protesters will split into two groups once they cross the
Harbor Bridge. One will go to Himato near Auckland Airport.
The other will go to Bastian Points. So you can
expect delays probably across the whole network. As I say,
the exact time of this, we are unsure at this point.
Lots of feedback from you on the Allo cation broadcast
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allocation of political parties. The ACT Party wants to scrap it,
we had them on earlier. Ryan, this is interesting one, right,
it's amazing listening to that twenty seventeen Labor Party ad
from de Sinda Adern. She should be convicted for false advertising.
Hard to argue with that, Ryan, I am an act guy.
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How many of us get tax payer funding to help
us get a job? That's true. An other here says, though,
it's not fair if you're a party that has rich
people backing you that you would have such a huge
advantage if it was all done on donations. So there
are a couple of different descenting views on this one.
It is twenty nine after five News Talk ZIBB.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Ryan Bridge new for twenty twenty four on early edition
with Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Bits and a playing
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Speaker 2 (17:52):
Good Morning New Zealand. It is twenty three minutes away
from six year on News Talk sib Major disruption expected
across Auckland City this morning. More on that in just
a second. Gavin Gray out of the UK. The Archbishop
of Canterbury has quit. Also, Sue Gray meant, you know
the one who did that reporting to Boris Johnson and
his partying she was given this I wouldn't say plumb job,
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but she was given a booby prize job after being
sacked by Starma. And now that's not going ahead. He'll
tell us why. Also, we'll look at that abuse in
state care, apology and potential compensation. How much might it
cost us? Back to the Hikoy for a second. I
just made the point earlier that sorry, we're living in
democracy and the price you pay for living in a
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democracy is disruption and protest. It's just parf of the course.
And a number of you have emailed in Ryan if
these Heikoy idiots, this is from lindsay, if these Heikoy
idiots have their way, we won't live in a democracy.
And that is a fair point because some of them
are calling for, you know, a separate parliament, calling for
a separate justice system, that kind of thing, and I
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think that would be a terrible idea. I don't think
that works. I think, you know, I agree, one person,
one vote is the best and fear as system. But
it doesn't mean that you should ignore a minority group's cause,
because what happens when you do that is you just
tend to make them more radical, even more radical than
they already are, So I think there is a case
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for listening in a situation like this. Twenty three to.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
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Speaker 2 (20:13):
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Speaker 9 (20:20):
Well, that's right, Ryan, this is a new initiative that's
been trialed down here. It's led by the Primary Care
Task for Swaikaha Canterbury and what they've done is they've
tried to bring in medical students where they have brought
in medical students into part time roles in order to
reduce the administrative workload on six different general practices around
the region. Now they've looked over the results and the
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chair Kim Burgess, says, look, it's been a win win
for both parties. It's given some students and paid experience,
while gps end up having more time to themselves and
to see more patients. She says, Look, this is not
the magic bullet, but it is a drop in the ocean,
and little drops all add up and help. She does
say that they're going to make it bit more sustainable
than hope to expand this initiative next year.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
All right, and the weather today.
Speaker 9 (21:06):
Low cloud and a bit of drizzle possible today, then
find some cloud returns by evening northeasterlies and the high
here is eighteen as well.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Will you amongst those off you know, wasted and vomiting
in the gutter.
Speaker 9 (21:18):
After the country, find any evidence of me wasted or
vomiting after cut day?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Ryan, Thank you, Wow, how far back do we have
to go? That's the question Max's and Wellington, Hey, Max,
good morning? Is the airport for sale? Not for sale?
What's the go here? Oh?
Speaker 10 (21:34):
Well at Wellington's Crown Observer arrives at the City Council
today and with Lindsay McKenzie comes quite a steep bill
one thousand bucks a day to cover his paycheck. Interesting
interview in this very newsroom yesterday with Tory Fano, the mayor.
Her position is, she says it felt like government intervention
in her council always seemed inevitable. She wouldn't have done
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anything different to avoid this outcome, and she believes she
does still have control of her counsel and it can
work effectively together. The threshold for a Crown Observer, she believes,
was never met. But clearly something is wrong. Lindsay McKenzie's
first day is today. He'll be monitoring progress, redesigning that
long term plan and with it decisions about the city's future.
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And it's a budget essentially, and those decisions will be
accelerated now with a fresh pair of eyes looking over
the shoulders of counselors.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Right, yeah, and I see the sea fire, the Council
has said that, you know, it's not off the table
that the airport chears might actually be sold in the future.
So there's a lot of water around the bridge. How's
your weather at mex and the Kettle.
Speaker 10 (22:38):
Yeah, it should be fine today with light winds. You
can hear how I feel about that. The high twenty one.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Brilliant, Thank you, and you just need It's like you
have a real estate agent and they put the full
celle sign up and then they have to take it down,
and then they have put it up again, and then
they take it down again. Let's go to Neva and Auckland. Actually, Neva,
we don't need you.
Speaker 11 (22:56):
You have to be talking about why why.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Because we've got Grahame. Grahame has toicked morning Rain just
a heads up for your listeners heading in now from
Audioway and the motorway is already backing up in advance
of this morning. Oh wow, you've got an update for
us too.
Speaker 11 (23:10):
Well, Graham probably knows more than me, as you say,
what what am I doing here? What's my function? But
we do know and obviously for our listeners that it's
they're starting or they're gathering now. As you say, at
the media. This is at the Kamaka Mediah Northcote. They're
leaving there around about seven. They're going to be crossing
that bridge in multiple lots because obviously on that Auckland
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Harbor Bridge you can only have two hundred and fifty
so that's why per per wave, so they're coming over
on multiple waves. Now that's happening at about nine to
thirty this morning. They've got the two northbound lanes of
the bridge will be closed. The Stafford Road off ramp,
Currant Street on ramp, Shelley Beach Road southbound north ramp.
That's all going to be shut. And as you say,
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you know, then they're going to break off once they
come across that bridge. Then they're going to be in
the buses. I think one lot will be and then
there'll be Ihumato and also best point right, that's yes, but.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
So and I guess people are getting in early now,
aren't they trying to get a cart before it all?
Speaker 11 (24:11):
And even as I was coming in this morning at four,
I noticed the traffic was pretty busy and they had
all the eight trucks in anticipation for what's going to happen. Yeah,
and back to me, now, I was just thinking, because
I've got two furniture deliveries arriving at my place.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
You've got your sofa.
Speaker 11 (24:27):
My sofa's coming.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Oh no, I.
Speaker 11 (24:28):
Don't know what time it's going to arrive.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Though it probably won't.
Speaker 11 (24:33):
Won't You'll hear me screaming. You'll hear me screaming if
it doesn't. Because also, and I'll just say this quickly,
we've got cold play tonight. That sofa's going to be
traffic this afternoon, and round that Mount Eaton area is
going to be so today. What do you say? Should
you just stay home?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
You need to play that song? Clicks to you singing it.
How's the weather cloudy?
Speaker 11 (24:53):
Few showers? Hi, twenty two?
Speaker 2 (24:55):
All right, neither, thank you? Good luck with your sofa.
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So I think the sex Gavin Grays at UK Europe Correspondent,
The Archbishop of Canterbury has fallen on his sword, Gevin.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
As after well a lot of criticism and also frankly
some dwindling sport over the last twenty four forty eight hours.
Justin Welby, had really faced huge pressure resign because it
emerged last week following a very lengthy report that he
didn't follow up really rigorously enough on reports that somebody
who was quite senior within the Church of England or
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associated with it was a child abuser and had committed
quote abhorrent abuse of more than one hundred boys and
young men. John Smith was his name. It was a
British barrister. He was abusing boys that he met at
Christian summer camps in the nineteen seventies and nineteen eighties. Indeed,
he is round believed to be the most prolific serial
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abuser associated with the Church of England. And basically there
was a report out and it quite clearly showed that
although Justin Welby had looked at that, he had assumed
that when it was sent to the police for investigation
that was kind of the end of the matter and
the end of his responsibility. It wasn't. And now many
people say he quite simply did nothing really about it,
(27:16):
and lots of people believe he should have followed up
that report with much much greater action, much more decisiveness,
And today, as you say, he's fallen on its sword.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Sue Gray, who did that report into Boris Johnson and
his partying during COVID, then gets chief staff for Starma,
then gets basically the boots and given this booby prize
job of special invoid to nations and regions. We've got
an update on her this morning.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Yes, which lots of people I sense her enemies will enjoy,
and the news is that she won't actually be taking
up that new appointment. As you say, Sue Gray became
a household name. She led the government's internal inquiry into
the party Gate scandal that was, of course, Boris Jrenson
and associates within the civil service enjoying drinks and parties
(28:04):
when the rest of us were told that we should
not be socializing anyway. Her inquiry pretty much put paid
to his premiership and she left the senior civil service.
It then became clear to become a senior advisor to
the leader of the then opposition party that is now
the party of government. She was initially appointed to the
newly created role after departing Sekre Starmer's chiefs of staff
(28:28):
last month. That was her original appointment chief of staff. Apparently,
lots of headlines said that she was getting more money
than lots of people, including the Prime Minister. She resigned
from that saying she risked becoming a distraction. She was
then given another job, which was effectively to look at
the role of the regions and nations. She didn't attend
the first meeting. We were told she was taking a break,
(28:51):
and now we're being told she's not taking the job
at all. As I said, run there will be lots
of people with a big smile on their face tonight
who think that she rather irresponsible for anyway brought down
the than Prime Minister Boris Johnson.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yeah. Absolutely, I can just imagine the smiles on the
faces of those conservatives. The big question, of course, is
who is going to take this most important job of
Special Envoy to Nations and regions. It sounds like the
type of job you could get a garden nome to do.
To be honest with you, it's ten to six Bryan Bridge, right,
(29:25):
Who is going to pay and how much will the
bill be for any redress to those who have survived
abuse in state care and faith based institutions. If you
go back to and have a look at the Royal Commission,
you'll see a couple of numbers banded about. There was
a lawyer for survivors who said estimated the cost of
(29:47):
abuse to a survivor over their lifetime at eight hundred
and fifty thousand dollars on average, eight hundred and fifty
thousand dollars per survivor on average over the course of
their lifetime. That is a lot of money. And you've
got two hundred thousand people who have been affected by
this absolutely horrific abuse, you know, on a scale and
(30:07):
a range up to an including torture, that is a
very big bill potentially hundreds of millions or potentially into
the billions of dollars. Who should pay for that? Should
it be the taxpayer? Should it be the government, the state?
Of course in some situations it should be. But what
about the churches? Who's holding them responsible for their part
(30:28):
in all of this?
Speaker 1 (30:29):
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Speaker 2 (30:38):
News Talks, sedb siven Away from six News Talks said,
b So Trump, Yes, he has done very well. Yes,
the Republicans have done very well, taking the White House,
likely the House, but also the Senate, flipping the Senate,
but that majority, and at the moment it's two hundred
and fourteen seats for the Republicans and the House to
the Democrats two hundred and five are sixteen seats still
(30:59):
to be called. But it seems like a lot, But
it's not actually a lot when you take into account
that at least two of those will go to jobs
in Trump's administration. You lose a couple to a scandal perhaps,
and Trump is notorious for cracking the whip. You get
fighting between them like you had last time, and suddenly
you're looking at you know, Trump wanting to increase the
debt ceiling or make cuts, and you've got in fighting
(31:22):
and then potentially you have no longer have a majority.
So it's well, it seems like a lot. It can
be quite fragile that six minutes away from six now,
and Mike ha said he's on the show next. Hey, Mike,
good morning, Rideo morning Now. We've been debating a couple
of things this morning. One is the broadcast allocation for
political parties. Yes, ACT wants to do away with it. Yes,
(31:44):
I don't think that that is necessarily fair.
Speaker 12 (31:46):
There's no right answer because We've been grappling with this
for years, haven't we. So you open it up to
the open, Marc, and go just go find whoever you want.
An act or a national party will always win and
win comfortably, which is not fair seemingly so equally though,
if you flip it and go, well, look, the state
gives everybody the same amount of money. I mean, at
what cost and.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
How wendy four million dollars well, exactly.
Speaker 12 (32:10):
As four million dollars really the end of the world
given the overall I.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Mean, how many lunches, how many school lunch it.
Speaker 12 (32:15):
Is, but you can always say that, I mean how
much you're paying for the abuse and care as you
were just talking about, how many hundreds of millions. I
will ask because the Prime Ministers on this morning at
some point I don't know whether he will admit it,
but at some point. First of all, you've got a
can of worms. Right where's the end? There is no end.
And this is my great concern because even out of yesterday,
(32:35):
I have no doubt in my mind that yesterday was
done with the best of intentions. Yeah, of course it was,
well no, and not according to half the people were there.
Apparently was a pr stunt. It was shallow, it was
a waste, it was the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
You would have got that no matter who was doing
the apology.
Speaker 12 (32:50):
Right, is exactly what I'm saying. So you will get
that when they say we will give you twelve thousand dollars,
eighty thousand dollars, eight hundred thousand dollars, it will never
be enough. It'll never make people happy. There is no win.
So you've got this massive can of worms. But then
the question you got to ask, given our state, it's
got to come down to dollars, doesn't it. No one
wants to say that, but it does come down to dollars.
We don't have any money, we have less than no money.
(33:13):
And you're also setting a dreadful precedent economically speaking, so
you know, once you've paid.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Next somethings, some things are more important, too important not
to do. And if you have well, if you have
been tortured in the state care and you're a child,
undred percent, you deserve some compensation. But what how much?
Well that's the questions, right, and you listen to what
Labour said. Chriss Sippin said yesterday. He said, basically, you
can borrow up the wazoo and we won't stop yet.
Speaker 12 (33:39):
And that's the problem, isn't it. And so anyway, we'll
talk to Chris Luxing about that in other matters, right,
because he didched you this. Yes, here's what I said
yesterday that calls no more than ten minutes and it
didn't arrive at twenty two guarantee, I'm right right, was
late and nothing got covered.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
You reckon you reckon? Has he said yet how long
the call was? Don't think?
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Well?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
All right, Mike's next. Have a great day, everyone, Try
and avoid the Harbor Bridge if you can.
Speaker 7 (34:06):
Goodlad.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
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