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April 1, 2025 • 34 mins

On the Early Edition with Full Show Podcast Wednesday 2nd April 2025, Auckland businesses are disappointed the city will not host the 38th America's Cup, Heart of the City CEO Viv Beck shares her thoughts.  

The Government's reassuring landowners that they won't be legally responsible for recreational activities they permit on their land, New Zealand Deerstalkers Association CEO, Gwyn Thurlow tells Andrew Dickens what this will mean for the tourism industry.  

Andrew talks to marketing expert Mike Hutcheson on what will happen now the New Zealand Rugby and INEOS sponsorship feud has officially ended.  

UK/ Europe Correspondent Gavin Grey shares the latest on the UK and EU plotting their own responses to Trump's planned tariffs.  

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues is the interviews and the insight. Andrew dickens
on early edition with one roof make your property search simple,
use talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
It'd be he's good morning to you and welcome to
your Wednesday. Rain is coming farmers. More of this is
just a few months time, but brain is certainly coming
coming over the next sixty minutes. It's a return to
personal responsibility landowners who will no longer be held liable
for recreational accidents on their farm. We'll cover the story
in five. Enios is off the All Backs Jersey, so

(00:31):
who could be honored in the future that story. In ten,
we'll discuss whether Shakespeare is still relevant in the school
curriculum in twenty twenty five and the America's cup of Sale.
So what do we do wrong? What can we do
better in the future. We'll talk to viv Beck just
before six we'll have that story. We'll have correspondence around
New Zealand. From around New Zealand, we'll talk to Gavin
Gray out of the UK. And you can have your

(00:53):
say by giving me a text. And the number is
ninety two ninety two. A small charge applies. It's seven
after five.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
The agenda well it's been to.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Say the second of April, and millions of voters head
to the polls in America today for the special elections
Wisconsin supreme courts up for grabs and two congressional seats
in Florida as well. Some say the race is less
about the court and more about a referendum on Elon Musk.
And this was Elon at a rally a few nights ago.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
You want to restore individual freedoms, freedom of speech, just
in general, get the government off your back. So and
then make sure that you succeed in the United States
as a function of your hard work and your talent.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Elon Musk and staying in the United States, it's an
anxious weight for world leaders. With details of Trump's tariffs
are still largely unknown and being announced lated today, Global
markets have been volatile as investors prepare for a massive
slate of import taxes, and the European Union says we're
ready to retaliate.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
If need be. We will protect our interests, our people
and our companies. Europe has not started this confrontration. We
do not necessarily want to retaliate, but if it is necessary,
we have a strong plan to retaliate.

Speaker 5 (02:12):
And we will use it.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
And I'll talk more about that in the moment. And
finally to France, where the far right has called for
nationwide demonstrations against the court decision to ban Molleene La
Penn from public office for five years. President of the
party Jordan Bdella has ruled out replacing her. He says
the French people will be outraged. Remember the Pen was
found guilty for embezzling European funds to finance her party.

(02:37):
She's going to appeal.

Speaker 6 (02:38):
That the system has taken out its nuclear bomb and
it's using such a powerful weapon against us. It's, of course,
because we're about to win the election. Let me be clear,
we will not let the presidential election be stolen from
the French.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
As we're in La Pen and it is nine up to.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Five on your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition,
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Speaker 2 (03:05):
Said, be good morning. So today, April second has been
called Liberation Day in the United States. It's a name
coined by the president. A spokesman for Donald Trump is
said that the president will be announcing a tariff plan
that will roll back the unfair trade practices that have
been ripping off their country for decades, and he's doing
this in the best interests of American workers, and I

(03:29):
believe him. I think he believes that he is doing
the best thing for the American worker. The American manufacturing
powerhouse has been depowered by the outsourcing of labor to
cheaper markets, and then those markets went learned from the
jobs given them, and then they develop their own products
that are better and cheaper than anything America can now create,
taking away the jobs from American workers. So making overseas

(03:50):
manufactured products more expensive in the American market should herd
Americans back to their home produced stuff. Well, that's the theory,
and in my heart I can approve, because how many
times have we said kind of the same thing, how
many times have we launched by New Zealand campaigns. But
whether this will work and strengthen American manufacturers and the

(04:10):
pocket of workers is another thing entirely, because it's a
bit like trying to refloat the Titanic when three quarters
of it is already underwater. America, remember, was not forced
to use and buy Chinese or European or Canadian, or
Mexican or Asian stuff in labor, their CEOs, their businesses.
Americans chose it willingly in an environment of globalism and

(04:32):
free trade agreements, an environment that still exists in most
of the world now. The exemplar for this was Apple,
of course, they made their phones in China, designed in America,
made in China. I'm not sure how the American public
will react when all of a sudden they'll see a
twenty five percent increase in the price of their cell phones,
or their electronic equipment or their cars, because that's the

(04:54):
other thing. The tariffs are penalties on overseas countries, but
the penalties are paid by a men Americans if they
buy those products. Now, we have been through this before
when the European Union cut us out of their market,
and we learned then that the only thing you could
really do was to make things that were so good
the Europeans wanted them so badly that pay the extra

(05:16):
tax to get them. So no matter what happens today,
and we'll have full coverage here on news talks here
be the only thing in our control is to keep
on making the beef in the dairy that leads the
world in its quality. Because quality always wins and the
Europeans are thinking about retaliatory actions. I wouldn't suggest that
for New Zealand. I wouldn't go tit for tat because
we're just too small to play that game. Count dicks

(05:40):
twelve minutes out of five. And speaking about global trade,
the global dairy trade auction happened overnight. Dairy prices up
one point one percent. They're still away off their highs
that was back in twenty twenty one. Butter is down
one point two percent, whole milk powder virtually unchanged, and
the biggest mover is skim milk powder up five point

(06:02):
nine percent, and that's good for our trade with China. Meanwhile,
the more farming news scatter rain in the forecast today,
but even better than that is the widespread rain which
is forecast on Thursday and Friday. That's great news for farmers,
particularly north of Topa, because have a look at the
farms at the moment, they are like, well, they look

(06:23):
like parched bone dickens, all right. So and again keeping
with the farmers, it's your show this morning. At least
at the beginning, landowners will not be legally responsible for
recreational activities they permit on their land from now on.
So if you're going for a bike ride, going for
a ramble you and you hurt yourself, you break your leg, well,
it's not the landowner's fault, it's your fault. Return to

(06:45):
personal safety. So we'll talk about this with the deer
stalkers in just a few moments time. It's thirteen a
half to five on NEWSTALKSB.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
News and Views You Trust to start your day. It's
early edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make your
Property Search Simple You Talk Sivvy.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Five point fifteen Stevens text of Beeing says, in some
ways Trump is right to have free trades. You need
a level playing field like minimum tax rates and minimum
wages and robust health and safety rules and visa free travel.
And I get that, and yes, you're right in some
ways Trump is right. But when you're the only country
doing it and everybody else is free trading all over
the place and globalizing all over the place, there's a

(07:24):
big risk it's all in or all out, really, isn't it.
I don't know what do you think? You can text
ninety two ninety two and by the way, compulsory Shakespeare
for years ten to thirteen senior secondary school students. Is
this do you agree? Is it still relevant in twenty
twenty five to have a Shakespeare text every year year
ten to thirteen. You can text on that as well.

(07:44):
And I'll talk about this soon. It's sixteen after five.
So the government continues their announcements around health and safety,
and this time they reassured landowners that they will not
be legally responsible for recreational activities they prevent on their
land and their hope is for liability to fall solely
on the business or the individual using the land. And
Gwyn Thurlough is the CEO of the New Zealand dest

(08:06):
Walkers Association and has got up early. In fact, it
probably isn't early for you, good and you probably get
up at this time all the time. Hello, yeah, good.

Speaker 7 (08:13):
It's about the early rising time for a good hunter
that's keen to get out there at first flight.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Absolutely, I saw yesterday you held this as a return
to personal responsibility, which is something we've abandoned in recent years.

Speaker 7 (08:25):
Absolutely. Yeah, this is exactly what that is. And we've
had the work Safe action against landowners for accidents not
in their control under the two thousand and fifteen Acts
sort of creep into the space of recreation. It was
intended for workers and keeping workers safe, and some of

(08:46):
the government agencies and the land owners forestry blocks used
it to exclude recreation and they just didn't want the
risk of having people on their land.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, denying us mountain biking tracks and all sorts of things.
Much has this liability that existed beforehand halted recreational activities
around New Zealand.

Speaker 7 (09:07):
It certainly shutgate. It certainly made landowners and corporate landowners
and particularly hesitant. Some of our you know, big farms
and accesslades are now not just owned by Mum and
dad farmers who you knew years ago down the road
just you know, speak to Steve and he'll let you in.
It created bureaucracy. For example, we solved it for our

(09:28):
members by taking out a ten million dollar liability policy
to ease the pain on some of those corporate types
letting people through or on their land. So it certainly
had cost implications, paperwork admin and for clubs like hunting
clubs or tramping clubs, it puts a lot of admin
on the organizers of trips to do paperwork and risk assessments.

(09:52):
It's just a bit like everything. It's turned a lot
of things into a bureaucracy and recreation shouldn't be about that.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Okay. Now, do landowners now have absolutely no responsibility? Because
there was arguments in the courts about for curry White Island,
the owners of the land there should have known perhaps
that the volcano could explode and could have warned people that,
you know, my land's a bit dangerous right now. But
do they have absolutely no responsibility now?

Speaker 7 (10:18):
No, they certainly will have responsibility. They'll have responsibility for
their business activities. So if there're a farmer, they're farming.
If there a forestry company as forestry workers and the
structures around their business. But if we're just going out
the back blocks to access some fishing or go to
Hiker Mountain, that's a dock block that backs onto a

(10:40):
private land and we're walking through, that's where they shouldn't
be liable. But as always, they're going to have to
identify hazards and do things safely themselves. But it means that,
for example, if I'm taking a group of people through
their land on a walk, that I will be responsible
for that walking activity. It's got nothing to do with

(11:02):
farming or forestry. It's just recreating.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Okay, Gwynn, happy hunting and thank you so much for
joining us. That is Gwynn Thurlow, who is the CEO
of the New Zealand d Stalker's Association. So Jim Ratcliffe
paid up to the All Blacks and even gave him
a little bit more. But now Ineos is going to
be off the jerseys. So what have we learned from
that and what can we do going forward? And who
might want to be on the jersey. We'll talk about

(11:26):
this in a few moments time with a fellow who
used to run Sachi and Sachi so he knows his branding.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Andrew Dickens on a billion edition with one roof to
make your Property search simple, Youth Dog Zibby.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Five twenty two. Well New Zealand Rugby and Ineos their
sponsorship feud has officially ended in the High Court. New
Zealand Rugby took the petrochemical company to task Ineos when
terminated a twenty one million dollar a year deal with
the All Blacks brand. It's believed that Jim Racliffe, the
billionaire and the owner of Inios, has now paid what
it owed the twenty twenty five deal. So that's good

(12:01):
and even off at a small additional payment on top.

Speaker 7 (12:04):
So.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Mike Hutchinson is a marketing expert. He is a former
managing director of Sachi and Sachi and despite being an
advertising he's up early too. Good morning to you, Mike.

Speaker 8 (12:13):
I was just saying to your producer, I got working
early to cat jump on the bed and then followed
by the dog, the dogs of Bernie's mountain dog, you
know when she jumps on the bed.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah, yes, very good.

Speaker 8 (12:21):
Are you?

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Are you surprised that New Zealand Raby did so well
out of the court battle?

Speaker 8 (12:25):
I think in the end it's probably quite benevisual and
assuming that I could pick up the right kind of
replacement sponsorship, I think they didn't do too badly.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Okay, So where are we going from here? And what
lessons should we learn from all of this if we're
looking for someone to replace Inios Because we thought that
in the Os was going to be great. It was huge.
Gym was rich and they have the money and they
were proud of it all. And yeah there were some dodgings,
you know, looks about it because it was a petrochemical company.
But we thought this is good, this is going to
be a regular income. Who should we be going for him?

Speaker 8 (12:59):
Well, sadly, they probably need to replace it with something
like inios, I mean even ultra d of course who
are in a sponsored locally are were the more an
infrastructure and some chemicals. But you need to chase somebody
like a Jim Radcliffe or a Aldred who can make

(13:20):
a call. If you're going to chase after a big corporation,
you have to get buy in from everyone down the line,
including a board of directors and some one. So it's
best to go after an organization is run by someone
perhaps even autocratic, but who can make a call quite quickly.
And sadly that the numbers are very very small. We're

(13:41):
a tiny country in the bottom righting cord of the world.
We're not well up there, certainly not in the States.
The big the big players are in the States, and
you've got to look hard to find someone who can
afford this spont to the orblex.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
So so you're saying that the all Blacks Jersey is
really a vanity investment, someone who just like kids.

Speaker 8 (13:58):
I reckon. I reckon because I'm sure, but see someone
like Altrad. I think they're into infrastructure, scaffolding, petrochemical stuff.
They build plants, they build big things, and I can
imagine the halo effect of that for Ultrad is terrific.
And I think that Altred himself, I think it was
educated in France. He probably knows about the power of

(14:22):
rugby and sprinting in France and in Europe, and so
it's probably quite a good mix. But that's the kind
of person you're going to go after. You're not going
to go after one of the big banks. You're not
going to go after Microsoft or.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Mike. Very good, thank you so much for your experctis
and going for the cat and the dog right now.
And now they've got to give a new sponsor in
a very short space of time. And it's interesting. Is
the all Backs brand still syllable? As Mike said, you know,
it's not a big game in American Shakespeare. How do
you feel about Shakespeare being compulsory? Years ten to thirteen
I talk about this next it's News Talks.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
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Speaker 2 (15:06):
It is five twenty seven, so the draft year seven
to thirteen English Curriculum. Okay, Matt yesterday, and it proposes
compulsory Shakespeare for senior secondary school students. You're going to
have to do one of the plays you attend to thirteen.
That provoked a bit of a debate about the relevance
of Shakespeare in this day and age. Now, Shakespeare is
obviously very very important, but is it essential? Because even

(15:30):
when I was at secondary school, which is a very
long time ago, now forty five years ago, Shakespeare was
not popular amongst students. One year, we were studying Hamlet.
So the school, a major school in Auckland, Grammar School.
The school organized an afternoon matinee of the play and

(15:50):
it happened at the Mercury Theater. So we all got
on buses and we turned up to the Mercury Theater
and we were so rowdy that a young Michael Hurst,
who was playing the Danish Prince, commented that this is
the worst audience I have ever encountered in the theater.
A whole theater full of boys hating Hamlet. We didn't
even calm down during the sword fights. However, that did

(16:10):
not happen when we studied more modern texts like Arthur
Miller's Death of a Salesman or even Thomas Becket's Murder
in the Cathedral, Because I'll tell you why those plays
use language. We understood. Those plays had themes we could
relate to, as Shakespeare did not. To teach, you must engage.
And much in all as we bemoan the fall of
Shakespeare amongst the young, he's still so strong that his

(16:32):
influence of the modern world will not fail. So what
will engage the kids? And I really don't know. This
generation is less engaged in all sorts of stuff than
ever so much so I had to explain who Bob
Geldoff was to my twenty six year old son the
other day. And speaking of rock and roll, I'll tell
you the most engagement I ever had at school was
when my Engish teacher said we should study the lyrics

(16:54):
of David Bowie's song Time from the Aladdinsane album. And
we loved it and we got into in depth. And
let's remember, here's another thing. In twenty sixteen, Bob Dylan
won the Nobel Prize in Literature. Would anyone mind if
he was added to the curriculum. I don't think so.
So what do you think by the way. I also
see the new curriculum says that spelling and keyboard lessons
for children at intermediate schools should be compulsory. You mean

(17:17):
that not already? How do I can survive in this
modern world?

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Andrew Dickens, all.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Right, America's Cup. I've got some thoughts about the America's Cup,
and I've got Vive Beck before six. You've got Early Edition.
I'm Andrew Dickinson for Ryan Bridge. This is News Talks.

Speaker 5 (17:31):
It be.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
The first word on the news of the day. Early
Edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof. Make your property
search simple, You.

Speaker 6 (17:47):
Talks, it be.

Speaker 9 (17:50):
No you uh fortune, every lovely rident, good body, gim.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Welcome to your Thursday. I thank you so much for listening,
but also for contributing by sitting in your texts to
Multi two ninety two small charge of Piers on Shakespeare
compulsory years ten to thirteen. I'm a sixty seven year
old retired professional with a good education. I am dead
again Shakespeare being a compulsory subject. I have not once
found a use for Shakespeare in my working or social

(18:24):
life since studying it. It's elitism. However, on the other hand,
I've also got a text from Marge March. Here is Shakespeare.
You know how you always know stuff in your job
which is really not used much or f at all.
Learning that stuff trains your brain to learn the little stuff,
and that training is useful overall. To the America's Cup
we go. There's no money for the America's Cup, no

(18:47):
public money and no kidding, there's not enough public money
for a lot of stuff, let alone a saving competition.
But that's comparing apples with oranges. To be fair, we're
in the era of need to haves, not nice to haves,
and you have to admit though that some to have
make us feel good, contribute to the sense of national
well being and confidence. We are gradually being priced out
of major events because we're small, We can't compete with

(19:09):
bums on seats, and our time zone is bad for
the international markets. We are not going to get the Olympics.
The Commonwealth Games appeared dead. The chances of getting the
Rugby World Cup again seem limited because of our small stadiums.
The Winter Games folded, thank God for sale GP. So
we had this link to one big event. Why are
we letting it go? It fits the government's agenda for

(19:30):
New Zealand as being good for high end tourism, sponsoring
innovation and manufacturing and technology, stimulating restaurants and hospitality. And
of course it says yes instead of no, which the
government would like us to say more often. It's upset
a lot of people. This cause for a better funding
model so we can put our hands up for these things.
This is a global event that landed in our laps

(19:52):
and it makes the country feel good, even if we
don't give U stuff about sailing and what is wrong
with one nice to have just to make the country
feel that we're not an irrelevant And I got an
email from Andy Fromkrastiach who said the America's Cup what
a wasted opportunity to invest in a money maker for Auckland,
bringing in tourism in a long term build up gone

(20:14):
from Auckland as this government is afraid to spend in
anything money to make money. And I thought Christopher Luxman
was a businessman. And Andy's last words is if you
don't invest, you don't make any money. Twenty one to
six seconds around the country. We go into Dunedin and
it's good morning to calm proctive morning, heln morning. Andrew
so we've been hearing about it on the telenews. The

(20:34):
data states of healthcare in Otago here.

Speaker 10 (20:39):
This is Health Action Wanaka who have issued this report
shedding light on the dire state of healthcare in the
Upper Kluther region. It's found that there's significant unmet needs
there following a consultation with the community. The report shows
young people are being turned away from mental health services,
elderly and pregnant residents are having to travel to Dunedan

(20:59):
due to a lack of local facilities. Youth Services Providers
ADL Chief Executive Clive MacArthur says there's things like telehealth
services maybe one solution as Uppercluther is very isolated. The
Health Minister, Simon Brown's asked officials for advice on this
report and says he's looking forward to the recommendations.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
How's Dindi's weather, chance of a light shower through the
day today? And seventeen Claise here, we're from christ Church.
Good morning to you.

Speaker 11 (21:25):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
So the Council is looking at the draft annual plan
and a lot of Cantabrians have had their say, yeah,
quite a few.

Speaker 12 (21:32):
Anyway, we do know that the response rate is not
great on consultation for these things, Andrew, But councilors are
going to begin considering more than one thousand submissions on
the draft annual plan here in christ Church today. The
Council here is proposing a combined one point five billion
dollars on day to day services and capital works. In
this plan, there's an average rate rise proposed of seven

(21:53):
point five to eight percent. Now, the Council will hear
directly from one hundred groups and individuals, with hearing beginning today.
Mayor Film Major says transport, parks and rates affordability are
the issues that gained the most attention during the consultation phase.
He says counselors will vow to consider every single bit
of feedback.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Hous Canterbury's weather Patrie.

Speaker 12 (22:15):
Drizzle clearing early this afternoon, but will remain cloudy, northeasterlyies
and the high of seventeen.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
Max told joins you from Wellington. Hello, Max, good morning.
Talk to me about the Mayor's business group.

Speaker 13 (22:26):
Yes, so, there are documents that our reporter Ethan Minira
has tracked down that shine a light on why two
members of the Wellington Mayor's high profile business group abruptly
quit last year Tory. Fino established the group in part,
at least account of the narrative that she and the
council weren't listening to business at Willis Bond developer Mark
McGuinness he was one of them. His sudden exit came

(22:49):
in the form of an email we have now received
which criticizes the Golden Mild pedestrian works. He says tens
of millions of dollars would be far, but has spent
directly targeting safety and homelessness, and he believes the group
isn't doing enough to alleviate the high cost of doing
business in Wellington. A fellow group member who's still a
group member, who works in property, echoes those concerns, saying

(23:10):
there's a lack of public appetite for a massive roading
project and fears businesses will die as it's carried out,
not surviving long enough to see its benefits. Afino says
some members of her group do support the Golden Miles,
some don't. She insists, still businesses are being listened to.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Okay, how's Wellington's weather?

Speaker 13 (23:29):
Mostly cloudy, afternoon, fine breaks southerleast twenty.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
And never ready. Man who joins me from walkanhell.

Speaker 11 (23:34):
Greetings.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
So Polyfisk gets underway today. This is the world's largest
Maori and Pacific Island festival.

Speaker 11 (23:39):
Correct end. It's celebrating fifty years today. So we've got
seventy seven schools that's from across the region taking part,
alongside five from outside the city and two groups coming
from Australia as well. So a crowd of about injury
seventy five thousand people that's expected over the next four days.
Pretty good the event. That's come a long way from
only four schools performing back in the day fifty years ago.

(24:03):
So the speech competition is also growing in numbers, as
is the online audience watching from overseas.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
I've been to one. I went to one at the
Monico Sports Bowl and it was it was spine tingling.
It was magnificent. It's like the Junior Kappa Haka World Championships.
It's so good.

Speaker 14 (24:18):
Yea, how's it still there?

Speaker 11 (24:19):
Two at the Monico Sports good?

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Well, how's orsa?

Speaker 8 (24:22):
Well?

Speaker 11 (24:22):
We've got cloudy conditions today, isolated chows mainly from afternoon
high twenty three, but the rain is coming for Auckland
over the next three or four days.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Everybody quite right, Thursday and Friday Saturday. It comes a
bit right. Congratulations farmers, you're welcome. It is seven to six,
seventeen to six. Another text through Andrew. I have to
say I'm getting quite annoyed at the constant references to
the two billion dollar benefit to the Barcelona economy from
the America's Cup. It's a half truth. The factors. It's
bloody easy for the European rich listers to sell their

(24:51):
luxury boats around the corner, and it's only an hour
or two's flight. Compare that to the same people wanting
to come right round the world to New Zealand. You're
buddy dreaming. Here's my text. We absolutely should not fund this.
We can't even afford our current debt, so why should
we do this? Seventy five million, by the way, is
that a big price. We're going to talk to Vi
Beck about this just before six, But next it's Gavin

(25:11):
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So it is a liberation day today in the United
States of America, where Donald Trump announces the tariffs. He says,
it's going to be historic. There will be no tariffs
if you make in America, he says. So let's go
to the to Europe right now, to Gavin Gray out
of the UK oneing to you, Gavin, hither Andrew with
liberation on the way. The UK and the EU are
already plotting their own responses to Trump's planned tariffs.

Speaker 5 (26:49):
They are. The UK seems much more sort of at
peace with it, suggesting they will if they think it's necessary,
take tariffs as well, approach that the EU, who is
saying they are much more likely to do. And the
reason is that the UK is hoping they're going to
be able to negotiate a trade deal sooner rather than later.
And if they don't retaliate, they believe that that'll please

(27:12):
Donald Trump and therefore they may get some sort of
a better deal than if they do either way, these
high stakes. The EU saying it's going to considerably knock
their manufacturing base, particularly the big two economies Germany and France.
The UK well known to be saying that this could
knock the British economy by one percent in the worst
case scenario if an all out trade walk took place.

(27:36):
But the UK, I think already not taking action over
the steel and aluminium tariffs. Instead, it's waiting to see
what's been said. At times, Donald Trump suggested that because
the UK has a similar export to the US's import,
in other words, there's not a great trade imbalance, that
they might escape the trade taxes. And then the next

(27:58):
minute Donald Trump is no, he is going to put
the UK in with the EU and the worldwide tariff.
So we're simply waiting to find out.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Now, this is an epislater on this afternoon, and now
unrisked in France, says Marine Lapin can't run for political
office for the next five years.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
No, that's right. So she, along with others of her
National Rally party, have been found guilty of embezzling roughly
five and a half million New Zealand dollars of EU
funds for use in France by her own party. Now,
among the sentencing is that she can't run for political
office for five years, and that is devastating for her

(28:38):
because there is a presidential election in twenty twenty seven
and she at the moment in the opinion polls is
the front runner. At least she was now she is
getting to appeal that sentence, but it just goes to
show the height of feeling now in France, with some
saying that they believe democracy is at stake. The far
right leader Jordan Bardea. He has now called on people

(28:59):
to rally in the center of Paris on Sunday, saying
that they need to overturn this decision, and also Marine.
Le Penn has received support from the Deputy Prime Minister
of Italy, Mattio Salva, who said we are not intimidated.
Full speed ahead. He's the hardline right wing candidate there.
The Populist Builders of the Netherlands largest political party, another

(29:21):
right winger, said that lo Penn would win her appeal
and that she would be France's next president and also
the prime minister. Controversial Prime Minister of Hungary Victor Auburn,
also saying support for her with josuis marine in other words,
I am marine, So lots of support for her, but
will she get that overturned?

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Kevin Gray and I thank you. It is now nine
minutes to six.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Andrew Dickins, all right.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
We're not getting the America's cup orkandun Limited yesterday announced
it's not going any further because the government won't put
any money in seventy five million. They say, how did
the city CEO of vic joins me? Now, Hi, vic Vivo.
A lot of people, a lot of people upset about
the same an opportunity wasted. Do you believe that?

Speaker 15 (30:01):
Yeah, well, yes, that's exactly what we said. To be honest,
it is a golden opportunity list.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
But it's seventy five million dollars and we are poor
right now? What do you say to that?

Speaker 15 (30:11):
But remember when we spoke a few weeks ago, I
talked about how much effort has gone into raising the
importance of major events and alternative forms of funding. So
I think the biggest disappointment is that there has been
from us and many others of significant effort gone into
saying that we do need to find alternative ways. Suggestions

(30:33):
were made, and this opportunity. The reason it's so disappointing
is it's right for the picking. I mean, we've got
the infrastructure, the economic benefits would be there, and if
there had been quicker action on finding alternative funding, I
mean we understand that there are other priorities of government,
but growth is also a big opportunity, a big priority,

(30:54):
and you know the reality is that the gest alone
could pay for that money. So I think with some
imagination and will and determination it would have been it
could have been a different result.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
And it's not just an auckland and a sailing topic.
Steve armatatsrom hospitality in New Zealand says we need a
nationwide strategy to attract events instead of our piecemeal region
by regional approach or event by event approach.

Speaker 8 (31:17):
Do you agree absolutely?

Speaker 15 (31:19):
I mean, I think the look, we've got a lot
of great work going on in that space, and there's
a lot of expertise, so I don't want to knock
the work that is done for the limited funding. But
we know we don't compete internationally now often we don't.
We're a small country.

Speaker 5 (31:34):
We get that.

Speaker 15 (31:35):
But I think we do have to have the energy
and drive and will to try and find ways to
actually grow this because you know we do. Events are
a great way of attracting people here. It's not just
a one time wonder that people come and have a
great time. I mean the benefits from from trade and jobs,
international profile. You look at Barcelona. I mean, imagine if

(31:58):
we had that in twenty when he said something along
those lines at a time where we really do need
to have something that actually excites people that we literally
are growing and not just full of problems.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Verve Beck and I thank you so much for getting
up earlier. It was seven minutes to sexist news Talk set.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
B get ahead of the headlines on early edition, Andrew
Dickens and one Room, Make your Property Search Simple news
talks It.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Be so or the Shakespeare and all this America's cups thing.
This last thing I want to say the Malory Party
refusing to appear in front of the Parliamentary Privileged Committee
over their hocker in the House and they claim the
process has been disrespectful to Maori tikanger. Can I remind
the Maori Party that the Privileged Committee is part of
European tickanger and they're disrespecting it. And what source for
the Goose's source for the gander? So why don't they

(32:48):
just turn up and argue their point, because isn't that
their job? You go to Parliament and you argue your
cause not to boycott it? Is this racial hypocrisy and
Mike Hosking, I see you're talking to Graham Edula today. Yeah,
I am.

Speaker 14 (33:00):
And the thing about the Privileges Committee, I'm not sure
how many people follow this. The Privileges Committee is tremendously
powerful and can throw you in jail, and they have
the ability to do all sorts of things they never do,
and so the interface at the moment is whether they'll
actually do anything because they can, and they can summons you.
They haven't been summoned yet. Normally you're invited along and

(33:21):
you say sorry or whatever. So and Henery did that
the other day. He said sorry because he was part
of the original thing. So anyway, they're doing what the
married party does. And it's the ball I guess is
in the Privileges Committee's court to go, Well, if we
don't do something here, we're going to look inept.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Didn't they dock the pay of the mint?

Speaker 13 (33:37):
Yes, she did.

Speaker 14 (33:39):
The young lady got docked, so she's been partially That's
why the married party you're arguing double jeopardy on this one.
But and they wanted to be heard together. It's just
the usual, you know, if you start taking them seriously.
So anyway, the balls in their court will talk about
that a little bit on the America's Cup because Mark
Mitchell happens to be on anyway, and he's the Minister
of Stress. Seventy five million, so over three years, which
is what it is, million a month. You're telling me

(34:01):
we don't have two million dollars a month that spend
there on fire that's been there on.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Thank you to Rochester Kenzie. My name is Andrew. I
can see you again tomorrow.

Speaker 15 (34:09):
I have a great day.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
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