November 12, 2025 • 30 mins
In the second hour, Dave Softy Mahler chats with Petros Papadakis about the Huskies loss in Wisconsin and rumors surrounding Jedd Fisch’s future, then Dick Fain rejoins the show as the guys dive deep into Sunday's game between the Hawks and Rams.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time for our weekly conversation with college football analyst
Petros Papadekas.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Now with Petros, here's Dave's softy muller.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Alrighty, boys and girls, here we go in a busy
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Speaker 4 (00:38):
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Speaker 3 (00:41):
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How are you pel Why? What's the matter? What's wrong?
Why the sounds?
Speaker 4 (01:56):
There's a lot going on back here.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
What are you upset about the loss to us?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Yes, I'm bummed about what happened on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
The hell was that you went to Camp Randall?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
We were there.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Did I tell you the great Civil War history of
Camp Randall?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
So I know that Camp Randall was a training ground
for Union soldiers.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Well died, yeah, Wisconsin soldiers. And then it became a
prison camp for Confederate soldiers. And then the winner came
in Wisconsin, and you know what that's like. And the
Confederate soldiers, many of them died, so they were buried
there at Camp Randall and then around the turn of
the last century they sold the government sold a good
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portion of the land to the university and they built
Camp Randall Stadium there and that's why it's not on
top of the graves. The graves are still there, but
that is why it is called Camp Randall because it
was a soldier's camp or a prison for confederates. And
you have that ancient looking gym. Had you been there.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Before, No, it never had been there. But pretty cool, right, Yeah,
you know, I thought I thought it was it was
it was, it was cool. The field house next door
was very cool. Yeah, I wasn't really impressed by the
architecture of the stadium.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Well, they have rebuilt it. To get up to the booth,
you have to take like it's like Plinko. You have
to take like five different elevators because they've built it
in pieces over the years. So they never, like they
did with Husky Stadium, just knocked the whole thing over
and remodel it. This one they just kind of built
up as time went on, and that's why it looks
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like it looks. But I think it's pretty cool. And
like we said, I'm sorry that Washington lost, but that
kind of happens when you travel across the country and
play in somebody's big, crazy foreign stadium that you've never
been before, and it happens to teams that come and
play at mont Lake. So it's sort of an interesting
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thing that that is the case and that they lost.
But there's still a lot of rumors swirling about Jedfish
because there are more openings than there are coaches, right,
which is pretty amazing in today's day and age.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Well, let's let's address all that.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Okay, I don't know if you heard the clip from
Jed earlier this week, you know, he basically came out
and said, you know, people don't know what the hell
they're talking about. You know, and my family's not up
here because my wife Amber wanted to keep our kids
in school in Tucson so they could graduate high school
and all that.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
And and that's fine. I mean, like.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Sophomores or what.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
I don't know how old they are exactly.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I do know that they were up here in high
school and didn't work out, and so they took him
out and put them back in school in Arizona.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Were of getting bullied by some Blake Snell types.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Or I mean possible, maybe some ducks or Kougs were
getting on him a little bit.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
I don't know, dude. I mean, look, I got no
problem with that.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
If your kids don't enjoy it here and they want
to go back to Arizona with their or lifelong friends, then.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Whatever long friends. This hasn't held a job in one
place for a year in his life, Okay.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
I was gonna say, you're right, you know what, that
was fair.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
That was fair. That was fair. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Maybe maybe their lifelong friends came with them from whatever
city they were at before. I have no idea.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Maybe they all moved together. But yeah, I mean, for
whatever reason, they want to go back to Tucson. But dude,
here's the thing, man, do we really believe anything that
comes out of any coaches pie hole period?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
No, Because they have agents that work for them, and
in many ways they work for the agents. Yeah. Because
there's so much money involved now, and there's so much
buyout money, and there's so many people to be paid off,
and most of the buyout money doesn't come from the
university anymore anyway. It comes from separate entities, just like
the nil money. So it's really no skin off anybody's nose.
(05:54):
But Jedfish has never been anywhere for very long. I
mean he was Florida for a year with Tith Barrier,
He was at Houston Texans for a year. He was
in Baltimore Ravens for three years for him, that's like thirty.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
You're looking at his Wikipedia pick.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, then Denver for a year, in Minnesota for a year,
Seattle for a year at the Seahawks. Yeah, Miami for
two years. That's a long stint for him.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
How many jobs?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
How many stops since like twenty ten, in like the
last fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Two three, four or five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Yeah, that's a lot.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, Oh no, there's no doubt. So, I mean, this
is a guy and that's not to say he wears
at is welcome. Maybe you could say that he is
a desirable coach, but he doesn't have a great track
record of longevity anywhere. And I mean that was a
knock on him five years ago when his name would
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come up for head jobs, and that's why a lot
of people were surprised he got the job at Arizona.
But he did such a quick fix there that the
why and the Washington job opened up, and I don't
think it was a bad hire. I don't think it's
proven out to be a bad hire.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
No, but not at all.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
But there's a lot of jobs out there, and he's
tucked up there in the corner. And if you don't
love Washington and your family doesn't live in Washington, and
you're about to make a lot more money, maybe life changing.
He probably already got paid some life changing cash and
you dub. But you're going to get more of that
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somewhere else in maybe La or some place more difficult.
I don't know. But none of the jobs that Jed
Fish is going to take I don't think are better
jobs on paper than you dub. But then again, it's
an individual thing, and it's an individual preference. But unfortunate
for Seattle because well, but here's the question. I think
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you deserve better.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Hang on, let me just let me just get just
jump in here.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I won't I won't hang on.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Well you will, Oh, you'll do it.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
You'll do what I say. It's my show.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Here's the thing, name how many how many of those
programs look at Jetfish right now as a top candidate
for their opening, Like how desirable is he right now?
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Like U Cola.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Maybe UCLA would say, yes, we want Jetfish to come
down here, but Florida Penn State probably not, though, Ole
miss If Kiffin walks away, I mean, how desirable do
you think he is at a job that would be
perceived to be a.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Step up from you dub for example. Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, it really depends on the circumstance. Do you
have an offense that is challenged? Do you need a
quarterback whisperer type of coach? Do you want? I mean
it just do you want more of a West Coast
vibe from your coach? It really it really does depend
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on what the individual situation is. But I'm not sure
it's the worst thing ever for Washington. It's not like
Jedfish is an overwhelmingly popular coach in Seattle, especially after
losing the game last week. So what do you mean
it's not the worst thing if he leaves, right, get
somebody else, you know, maybe somebody that is more committed
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to the program. I'm not exactly sure. I really am
not exactly sure. But it's become an agent game, and
the agents have college football. It's like a candy store
for them because there's so much money involved. There's so
much buyout money involved. You don't even have to have
that much success to get paid life changing money. And
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you can leave and lie and move around, and it's
not like you have to worry about the recruiting class
that the previous coach brought in three years ago. You
can run those guys off and bring new guys in,
go through a bit of a five hundred season rebuild,
and then hit the ground run in the next year.
Or you could be Signetty and do something miraculous at
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a school that's never really had success before. Well, so
there's such quick fixes out there now that it doesn't
matter as much, I suppose.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yeah, there's a couple things there, Petros that I would
like to address with you, okay. Number one is this
idea that these coaches who have these gigantic buyouts get
fired and they just have this life changing money and
you know, like like you know Jim Morri for example, right,
the former Seahawk head coach UCLA Falcons. You know, he's
a ukn now at a big win over Duke over
the weekend, people have said that Jim Morris made more
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money to not coach than he has to coach in
his career, but Jim Mora is still coaching.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Like, how many of these guys will get.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Fired, James Franklin, Mike Gundy, Brian Kelly and just say,
you know what, I'm just gonna take my fifty million
dollar buyout and go get fat on some beach.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
No.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
I think most of them will want to go back
to work, don't you.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Well, it depends on what the contract says, right. I
believe that the Penn State contract says that Franklin has
to actively look for another job and.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Then whatever he makes comes off their bill.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Right. And now I get that that is not as
popular anymore because schools see that the coaches go and
take like a consulting job and still get paid anyway.
CIA has got everybody by the balls and Jimmy Sexton
and all this stuff. So and I don't feel right,
and I don't feel bad for anybody involved, other than
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the assistants that get dragged around the country and their
families that get dragged around the country. These coaches like
ed Ojeron and guys like that, they they make more money,
as you said, to go away than they did to
ever stay. And some billionaires paying it and using it
as a tax rite off. So the real victims are
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the families of the assistant coaches in this situation, and
maybe the school fan base is if you bought a
dog Father Part two Steve Sarkisian T shirt or something
like that way back in the day bart for sark Yeah,
you might feel you might feel a little bit slighted.
But I don't know where it goes. I mean, I
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think maybe the coaches money will start to dissipate a
little bit when the players start getting paid more by
the university as opposed to an il collectives that are
kind of outside the range of the university. But the
coach still has to approve who gets paid. What I mean,
it's a mess, But thank god we still have college
football games to concentrate on, because the rest of this
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stuff is crazy. There's seriously more openings than there are jobs,
but or more jobs than there are coaches that you
would fill them in your mind's eye, right if you're
going to replace a head coach with a head coach.
But somebody came on our show yesterday and made a
good point about the coordinators. I mean, there's a lot
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of up and coming coordinators out there that have been
high and had a lot of success. I mean, look
at Signetti or different guys like that that you just
didn't know, and they're doing great. So maybe some of
these schools go outside the box and spend a little
bit less on a guy who doesn't have any head
coaching experience, and it's a little bit of a crapshoot
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like it was with Jimmy Lake. But you you yeah,
But I mean it looked great on paper. But we'll
see the direction it all goes in. But the fact
that the coaching carousel, it used to be really hard
to get fired in September, right, and now it seems
a lot easier, and everybody wants to start that rumor mill.
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I mean, the story of the college football season, as
much fun as we've had playing the games this year,
has been the coaches that have been fired, no doubt,
and the openings that exist. I mean, LSU and Penn State.
That's I mean, you don't even need to go further
than that. Let alone show CLA Stanford.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Florida, Florida, come on Florida, like you're kidding me up. Florida,
Penn State, LSU.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
You can argu those three of May through the top
ten jobs in the country.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
And somebody gets fired, an NFL guy or a college guy.
Somebody gets fired after every weekend football some big story.
This week it was in New York with Dabole. So
it's it's pretty wild and it's interesting to keep up with.
And then it affects people that do have their head
coach in place like Washington because rumors starts swirling about
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guys like Jed Fish and the rumors start through the agencies,
and the agencies know what's going on because they're the
ones that place these guys in different places with people
they know or people they're friends with or whatever. And
that's how the USC stuff, all those rumors have gotten
started with Lincoln Riley.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Well, you heard Wilner's theory on the UCLA gig. What
did he say, Casey Wasserman that his agent, Jed's agents
Doug Hendrickson who works for Washerman and Casey Wasserman, Is
he not the biggest donor booster at UCLA?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
What he says, go and he throws Jed's name out
there is if there's interest with UCLA and Jed to
kind of drum up the sexiness of that job down there.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
And that's very possible that Jed might want it. I mean,
would they hire him?
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Would they want Jed Fish at UCLA?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
If Casey Wasserman is close with him, He's the guy
that calls the shots. So the answer is yes. If
you mentioned Casey Wasserman, then yes, Casey Wasserman is behind
everything that happens at UCLA.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Is he behind them going to Sofi Stadium and leaving
the Rose.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Bull Probably him and Kevin Demoff, the rams GM guy.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
What do you make of that by the way people
are pissed down there?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Huh, Well, it's stupid. It doesn't solve any of their
problem and it just shows how out of touch they
are with their actual fan base. But UCLA football has
always been pretty tricky. It's a lot of layers to this,
but ultimately UCLA going to Sofi swallow them up, just
like UCLA at the Rose Bowl. But at least the
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Rose Bowl is an iconic college football venue. Granted, the
parking sucks, but the parking sucks it Sofi. Granted it's
far from your campus, but Sofi is not that much closer,
and it's the other direction in literally the most traffic
Freeway on Earth. The four h five North and South
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between Westwood and Inglewood sucks. And what you really want
if your UCLA is the students at the Games. It's
a gigantic university, and you want the students at the Games.
And the only way to get the students at the
Games is to have something closer to the campus. And
they have a gigantic track stadium that could be you know,
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throw some money at it, probably the same amount of
money it's going to cost them to buy out of
the Rose Bowl deal. Throw some money at building an
on campus Troy Aikman has said this for many years.
Build an on campus stadium where Drake Stadium is at
track Stadium at UCLA. Put thirty five to thirty to
forty thousand seats in there. Make it cool. Let the
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kids be able to get drunk and walk over to
the stadium. The reason it won't happen is because of
Sunset Boulevard and the hoas for bel air in all
those places that would fight against it tooth and nail,
just like they fought against it with all their fancy
lawyers in the sixties when that idea came up, and
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then UCLA if they did have an on campus stadium.
As I've said many times, they could play you know,
their normal games there. And if you play USC every
even year, or play Michigan or Ohio State or Penn
State or whoever's coming that has a gigantic Big ten
fan base, maybe even Wisconsin, you play them at the
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Rose Bowl two or three times a year. Yes to
your four or five games are on campus, and then
you've solved your problem basically, And that's a way to
honor the Rose Bowl contract. One thing to think about,
which is kind of interesting, is I guess UCLA has
a really bad deal with the Rose Bowl as far
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as the concessions and what they get a piece of
the parking and what they get a piece of and
all that. So some people have alleged that UCLA is
going to make more money being at SOFI, even if
they have to pay off the Rose Bowl thing. But
so far is a soulless environment. I mean, the cool
thing about playing football in LA is that you're outdoors, right,
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So UCLA is going to play indoors at home in
La Terrible in September and Atteria. Yeah, it's it's uh,
you know, just because it's new doesn't mean it's cool.
And you've been to Sofi, haven't you not yet? No,
it's it's not. I mean it's a new stadium. And look,
I remember when they built the Jerry Jones Dome and
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it was jaw dropping and the jumbo Tron was crazy,
and I know that they're comparable places around the country
that have built since then that are really cool. But
for every Jerry Jones Dome, there's what the forty nine
ers play in in Santa Clara, which is brand new
or was brand new and absolutely sucks, just sucks. And
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that's what SOFI is to me. I don't think it's
that impressive. I used to think the Seattle the pro
Stadium at Seattle was very underwhelming until I went to Sofi,
you know, or or the one up in a Santa Clara.
Those are a thousand times worse so I. It's a
problem without a solution that UCLA is in and going
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to Sofi is just like moving from one problem to another.
It doesn't make a lot of sense.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
There is a sign above the urinal in the men's
room in the press box at Levi Stadium that says,
don't drink the water. I'm not kidding you with that,
we will say a better people pretty dumb, pretty dumb, uh,
you know. I mean maybe somebody was considering sticking their
face in there before they saw that sign.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
I got all.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Right, but Petros Papadaka is with us. We're gonna break
Kevin Harlan coming up at five. Don't miss that right
here on ninety three three KJR.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
That's a better time slot than.
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Speaker 4 (20:39):
All right, here we go on a Wednesday afternoon.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Kevin Harlan gonna join us, coming up at five o'clock tonight.
A lot of conversation about the game he saw in
person on Sunday, which was the Cardinals and the Seahawks.
And then obviously we're gonna see the Rams and Seahawks
on Sunday, so maybe the game.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Of the week right in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
By the way, the awards are out, Tarek scooball no
shock has won the American League, Cy Young and Paul
Skeins no surprise has won the National League Cy Young Awards.
So the only question now for Tarek's schoo ball is
where does he pitch next year? Does he do it
in Detroit? Does he do it somewhere else? And if
he does do it somewhere else, what will it take
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to get him. I want to go back to the
conversation we're having about what is it like half hour ago,
hour ago? I don't know everything blends together now about
kind of what's acceptable against the Rams on Sunday as
far as the points allowed and all that stuff. I'll
just say this from my perspective, I think this is one.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Of those games where you just get out with a win.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I don't care if it's a ten to seven game
or a thirty seven to thirty four game like for example.
I'm just looking it up to just remind myself the
eighty five Bears. Remember that Monday night game against the Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Yeah, Dolphins, And.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
This game is like, man, if you're just think, if
you're like ten years old and you're sitting home, this
game deserves to be on Sunday night or Monday night football.
Everyone's home, they're all watching. The kids aren't playing soccer
or whatever, But that was for us jackson in eighty five.
I was thirteen years old. You're twelve huge game Bears Dolphins,
the great Bears defense against Dan Marino, and the Bears defense,
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which is generally regarded as the best defense in the
history of the NFL, gave up thirty eight points on
that game to Dan Marino. They then won six in
a row and they won the entire damn thing. The
Baltimore Ravens in two thousand and Week two gave up
thirty six to Jacksonville and had to win a thirty
nine to thirty six games. So it's gonna happen. You're
gonna have an outlier where you get pushed around. And
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maybe the Hawks have already had the out liar against
Tampa Bay. Maybe that was it for them. But I
just think this, if the Hawks lose this game on Sunday,
let me couch it this way, and they got a
stat I want to toss that in a second. If
the Hawks lose this game on Sunday, are you gonna
be more concerned about the rest of the year if
the offense gets shut down or more concerned about the
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rest of the year the defense gets pushed around by
Matt Stafford.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
I think the offense because I just think this is
this team's defense is far better than their offense. I
think their offense is not only one dimensional. I think
it's half dimensional. Half of their passing game works, and
that's the JSN half. How are they averaging thirty points
a game?
Speaker 7 (23:15):
Then?
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Well, DeMarcus Lawrence scored two touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Last game, but that helps everybody.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Everybody has fumbles for touchdowns and pick sixes and stuff, right,
I mean, everybody look at all the top scoring teams
in the NFL right now, Indianapolis, the Lions, the Hawks, Dallas,
the Rams, all of them are gonna have some help
from their defense, right. I mean, if you take those
touchdowns away from DeMarcus Lawrence, the Hawks are probably still
averaging twenty eight to twenty nine a game, which is
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top four or five in the NFL. But I do
agree with what you said that I think if the
Hawks defense gets pushed around, I'd be more apt to
believe that they can shove that aside and make that
the anomaly than the Seahawk offense if they get held
down by the Rams.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
Yeah, I think that's the only way to put it,
because the Rams. Have you look at the pieces, they
aren't like a half measure offense like we can be
at sometimes Kyron Williams and Blake Korham. That's they've developed
into a one to two punch like Korums had doublegitit
carries for three straight weeks like they now have. Suddenly
both sides of the offense that can get you. And
if everybody's healthy in that receiving corps.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
There right now for me the number one.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
Advertary for this entire thing, because we've seen Tampa like
they have fallen off, They've injured and you know, losing
Mike Evans and everything else, and God knows when Godwin
will be back. Eagles, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
I don't.
Speaker 7 (24:32):
I don't think the Packers are that good. And that
was maybe the worst game in football this year.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
So the Eagles offense is worse than either offense or
defense unit of So you.
Speaker 7 (24:43):
Know it's going back to my group chat. I just
put this forward. Let me put it forward to you guys.
I see these games coming up Seahawks Rams part one,
Part two, like I saw twenty thirteen Seahawks Niners. These
are the two best chiefs of the NFC. And whoever
comes out of these games. Maybe if it's two zero
for one, the teams is going to.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
Be and we are there and we won here, you know,
so we still win the Super Bowl, So that can
that can happen this year.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
He feels like teny thirteen, let's not wig out if
the defense gives up twenty seven and they lose the game,
get him here. I mean, if it's a tight game
and it comes down to whoever's got the ball last
or whatever, blah blah blah. But I mean Jackson brought
up the twenty four point a game thing earlier, right
that would you take twenty four?
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Is that what you saying?
Speaker 2 (25:23):
That's that's what buddy said. We appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I looked it up and it sounds like Jackson's buddy
actually did some research, Josh, because here's the deal. The
Rams are averaging twenty eight points a game on offense.
The Seahawks are allowing nineteen point one points per game
on defense. You know what the middle of that is
twenty four. The Hawks are scoring thirty point six per
game and the Rams are giving up seventeen per game.
(25:46):
You know what the middle of that is twenty four.
So if you're a Seahawks defender, would you be willing
to accept that, Hey, look, we're giving up a few
more points than we usually do, but we're also holding
them to.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Four points per low what they normally score.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
And if you're the Hawk offense, would you say, you
know what, will allow twenty four because it's four because
it's just four more points a game than they give up,
but it's four more points a game less than we'd score.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
I don't think there's one defensive member of the Hawks
that would say I'd take twenty four.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
I don't think they would either, because that's their standard.
I'm talking about for us. For us, would you take
twenty four?
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Now?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
I think twenty four probably wins the game, yes, But
I also think that giving up twenty four points to
the Rams. I mean, it's not like you should be
arrested for giving up twenty four. I take twenty four
on offense. You're handing me twenty four right now on
a point score. I'm signing up for that right now.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I just don't.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
I think there's two questions here. There's the one, which
is what does it take to win Sunday? And then
the other one is what does it take to make
you feel good about the future. The final I guess
it would be what seven games at that point and
the rest of the way, which is crazy. It's already
game ten. Oh my god, what would make you feel
good about the future. And I just think, guys, honestly,
outside of the Hawks their ass kicked by the Rams
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on Sunday, I think you hang in there with them,
you fight with them. If it's a ten to seven game,
or a thirteen to ten game, or a forty one
to thirty eight game, whatever.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Right, if it's if we're talking on Monday about, hey,
that was anybody's game with four minutes left to go
then and we ended up losing, I'd be I'd be disappointed.
But I'm like, you know what, bring him here December eighteenth,
and let's get it back. Because we showed we could
play point for point with them.
Speaker 7 (27:27):
There's only one problem with relying on that game for
the Seahawks to show everything, and that's that we're in
those stupid freaking Oregon duck jerseys.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Eighteenth week. That's see, that's the game, that's Thursday night game.
That's yeah, that's a shame.
Speaker 7 (27:43):
Yeah, we have those dumb jerseys that we're gonna I'd.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Rather wear have wear of the plow than were the
organ ducks. I don't like the plot. I like these
better than the plu.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Just what I like worse the Orgon ducks.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
They're gonna look like the ducks, and I guarantee you
is some smart Alec from the Oregon social media team
is gonna up on that and say, oh, look at
this man, you're taking after us.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
The Rams also have to whar they're ugly whatever these
are this weekend.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
That's so to.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
The midnight ones.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
I don't know, man.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
I mean, I think I think the defense is going
to come to play because I think I think I
think you think.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
I think.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
I think that Mike McDonald's defensive mind is ready to
beat Sean mcvay's offensive mind on Sunday after now, I
really do.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
I think it's because I think they're both top three
in the world at their craft.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
I understand that, but I also think that Mike McDonald
is more ahead of the game than Sean McVay is.
I think Mike McDonald is right now a guy that
everybody around the NFL wants to copy, right like this
is brand new stuff. It's refreshing. He's the next wave,
He's the new flavor. Maybe I'm just saying that because he's,
you know, second year versus how many years from McVeagh now,
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seven or eight whatever it is now with the Rams
year whatever it is now. And I just I don't
know if you put a gun to my head and
say who wins the heavyweight boxing match of coaches and
wits like in Princess Briden are sitting there and they're
doing the whole thing with the poison, right, how can
I choose the cup in front of you? Well, I mean,
I think I take McDonald. Maybe I'm being in a
homer man. Maybe I'm just enthralled by what the guy's
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been doing with all the injuries he's got, Dick, But
I think I like McDonald because I always want the
defense against the great offense, always, always, always, yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
And it's gonna be a defensive game.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
So maybe that that tips the Hawks, It tips into
the Hawk skills because they have the defensive coach. I'm
I'm just thrilled that we're here in the middle of
November and we're talking about a game with this magnitude.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
I'm trying to think that's right.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
When is the last Seahawks game that we went into
the week saying, man, the winner of this game could
be the favorite to win the NFC. It might be
what Jacks is talking about. Twenty fourteen probably was the
last team. They've only been seven to two twice since
they won the whole thing. Other year was nineteen, So
this is only the second time since they won the
championship they've even been seven and two and been in
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a position to do something like this. So, yeah, this
is this freaking huge, dude, Huge on Sunday. Huge and
I mentioned huge four nine four five one Text amennials,
what's your early take, give us your insight, paint your
picture for what's gonna happen on Sunday. And then Kevin Harlan,
we'll spend a lot of time with Kevin by the
(30:20):
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How are you pel Why? What's the matter? What's wrong?
Why the sounds?
Speaker 4 (01:56):
There's a lot going on back here.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
What are you upset about the loss to us?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Yes, I'm bummed about what happened on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
The hell was that you went to Camp Randall?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
We were there.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Did I tell you the great Civil War history of
Camp Randall?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
So I know that Camp Randall was a training ground
for Union soldiers.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Well died, yeah, Wisconsin soldiers. And then it became a
prison camp for Confederate soldiers. And then the winner came
in Wisconsin, and you know what that's like. And the
Confederate soldiers, many of them died, so they were buried
there at Camp Randall and then around the turn of
the last century they sold the government sold a good
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portion of the land to the university and they built
Camp Randall Stadium there and that's why it's not on
top of the graves. The graves are still there, but
that is why it is called Camp Randall because it
was a soldier's camp or a prison for confederates. And
you have that ancient looking gym. Had you been there.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Before, No, it never had been there. But pretty cool, right, Yeah,
you know, I thought I thought it was it was
it was, it was cool. The field house next door
was very cool. Yeah, I wasn't really impressed by the
architecture of the stadium.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Well, they have rebuilt it. To get up to the booth,
you have to take like it's like Plinko. You have
to take like five different elevators because they've built it
in pieces over the years. So they never, like they
did with Husky Stadium, just knocked the whole thing over
and remodel it. This one they just kind of built
up as time went on, and that's why it looks
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like it looks. But I think it's pretty cool. And
like we said, I'm sorry that Washington lost, but that
kind of happens when you travel across the country and
play in somebody's big, crazy foreign stadium that you've never
been before, and it happens to teams that come and
play at mont Lake. So it's sort of an interesting
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thing that that is the case and that they lost.
But there's still a lot of rumors swirling about Jedfish
because there are more openings than there are coaches, right,
which is pretty amazing in today's day and age.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Well, let's let's address all that.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Okay, I don't know if you heard the clip from
Jed earlier this week, you know, he basically came out
and said, you know, people don't know what the hell
they're talking about. You know, and my family's not up
here because my wife Amber wanted to keep our kids
in school in Tucson so they could graduate high school
and all that.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
And and that's fine. I mean, like.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Sophomores or what.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
I don't know how old they are exactly.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I do know that they were up here in high
school and didn't work out, and so they took him
out and put them back in school in Arizona.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Were of getting bullied by some Blake Snell types.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Or I mean possible, maybe some ducks or Kougs were
getting on him a little bit.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
I don't know, dude. I mean, look, I got no
problem with that.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
If your kids don't enjoy it here and they want
to go back to Arizona with their or lifelong friends, then.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Whatever long friends. This hasn't held a job in one
place for a year in his life, Okay.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
I was gonna say, you're right, you know what, that
was fair.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
That was fair. That was fair. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Maybe maybe their lifelong friends came with them from whatever
city they were at before. I have no idea.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Maybe they all moved together. But yeah, I mean, for
whatever reason, they want to go back to Tucson. But dude,
here's the thing, man, do we really believe anything that
comes out of any coaches pie hole period?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
No, Because they have agents that work for them, and
in many ways they work for the agents. Yeah. Because
there's so much money involved now, and there's so much
buyout money, and there's so many people to be paid off,
and most of the buyout money doesn't come from the
university anymore anyway. It comes from separate entities, just like
the nil money. So it's really no skin off anybody's nose.
(05:54):
But Jedfish has never been anywhere for very long. I
mean he was Florida for a year with Tith Barrier,
He was at Houston Texans for a year. He was
in Baltimore Ravens for three years for him, that's like thirty.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
You're looking at his Wikipedia pick.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, then Denver for a year, in Minnesota for a year,
Seattle for a year at the Seahawks. Yeah, Miami for
two years. That's a long stint for him.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
How many jobs?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
How many stops since like twenty ten, in like the
last fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Two three, four or five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Yeah, that's a lot.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, Oh no, there's no doubt. So, I mean, this
is a guy and that's not to say he wears
at is welcome. Maybe you could say that he is
a desirable coach, but he doesn't have a great track
record of longevity anywhere. And I mean that was a
knock on him five years ago when his name would
(06:54):
come up for head jobs, and that's why a lot
of people were surprised he got the job at Arizona.
But he did such a quick fix there that the
why and the Washington job opened up, and I don't
think it was a bad hire. I don't think it's
proven out to be a bad hire.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
No, but not at all.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
But there's a lot of jobs out there, and he's
tucked up there in the corner. And if you don't
love Washington and your family doesn't live in Washington, and
you're about to make a lot more money, maybe life changing.
He probably already got paid some life changing cash and
you dub. But you're going to get more of that
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somewhere else in maybe La or some place more difficult.
I don't know. But none of the jobs that Jed
Fish is going to take I don't think are better
jobs on paper than you dub. But then again, it's
an individual thing, and it's an individual preference. But unfortunate
for Seattle because well, but here's the question. I think
(07:53):
you deserve better.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Hang on, let me just let me just get just
jump in here.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I won't I won't hang on.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Well you will, Oh, you'll do it.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
You'll do what I say. It's my show.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Here's the thing, name how many how many of those
programs look at Jetfish right now as a top candidate
for their opening, Like how desirable is he right now?
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Like U Cola.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Maybe UCLA would say, yes, we want Jetfish to come
down here, but Florida Penn State probably not, though, Ole
miss If Kiffin walks away, I mean, how desirable do
you think he is at a job that would be
perceived to be a.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Step up from you dub for example. Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, it really depends on the circumstance. Do you
have an offense that is challenged? Do you need a
quarterback whisperer type of coach? Do you want? I mean
it just do you want more of a West Coast
vibe from your coach? It really it really does depend
(08:53):
on what the individual situation is. But I'm not sure
it's the worst thing ever for Washington. It's not like
Jedfish is an overwhelmingly popular coach in Seattle, especially after
losing the game last week. So what do you mean
it's not the worst thing if he leaves, right, get
somebody else, you know, maybe somebody that is more committed
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to the program. I'm not exactly sure. I really am
not exactly sure. But it's become an agent game, and
the agents have college football. It's like a candy store
for them because there's so much money involved. There's so
much buyout money involved. You don't even have to have
that much success to get paid life changing money. And
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you can leave and lie and move around, and it's
not like you have to worry about the recruiting class
that the previous coach brought in three years ago. You
can run those guys off and bring new guys in,
go through a bit of a five hundred season rebuild,
and then hit the ground run in the next year.
Or you could be Signetty and do something miraculous at
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a school that's never really had success before. Well, so
there's such quick fixes out there now that it doesn't
matter as much, I suppose.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yeah, there's a couple things there, Petros that I would
like to address with you, okay. Number one is this
idea that these coaches who have these gigantic buyouts get
fired and they just have this life changing money and
you know, like like you know Jim Morri for example, right,
the former Seahawk head coach UCLA Falcons. You know, he's
a ukn now at a big win over Duke over
the weekend, people have said that Jim Morris made more
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money to not coach than he has to coach in
his career, but Jim Mora is still coaching.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Like, how many of these guys will get.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Fired, James Franklin, Mike Gundy, Brian Kelly and just say,
you know what, I'm just gonna take my fifty million
dollar buyout and go get fat on some beach.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
No.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
I think most of them will want to go back
to work, don't you.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Well, it depends on what the contract says, right. I
believe that the Penn State contract says that Franklin has
to actively look for another job and.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Then whatever he makes comes off their bill.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Right. And now I get that that is not as
popular anymore because schools see that the coaches go and
take like a consulting job and still get paid anyway.
CIA has got everybody by the balls and Jimmy Sexton
and all this stuff. So and I don't feel right,
and I don't feel bad for anybody involved, other than
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the assistants that get dragged around the country and their
families that get dragged around the country. These coaches like
ed Ojeron and guys like that, they they make more money,
as you said, to go away than they did to
ever stay. And some billionaires paying it and using it
as a tax rite off. So the real victims are
(11:49):
the families of the assistant coaches in this situation, and
maybe the school fan base is if you bought a
dog Father Part two Steve Sarkisian T shirt or something
like that way back in the day bart for sark Yeah,
you might feel you might feel a little bit slighted.
But I don't know where it goes. I mean, I
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think maybe the coaches money will start to dissipate a
little bit when the players start getting paid more by
the university as opposed to an il collectives that are
kind of outside the range of the university. But the
coach still has to approve who gets paid. What I mean,
it's a mess, But thank god we still have college
football games to concentrate on, because the rest of this
(12:34):
stuff is crazy. There's seriously more openings than there are jobs,
but or more jobs than there are coaches that you
would fill them in your mind's eye, right if you're
going to replace a head coach with a head coach.
But somebody came on our show yesterday and made a
good point about the coordinators. I mean, there's a lot
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of up and coming coordinators out there that have been
high and had a lot of success. I mean, look
at Signetti or different guys like that that you just
didn't know, and they're doing great. So maybe some of
these schools go outside the box and spend a little
bit less on a guy who doesn't have any head
coaching experience, and it's a little bit of a crapshoot
(13:17):
like it was with Jimmy Lake. But you you yeah,
But I mean it looked great on paper. But we'll
see the direction it all goes in. But the fact
that the coaching carousel, it used to be really hard
to get fired in September, right, and now it seems
a lot easier, and everybody wants to start that rumor mill.
(13:38):
I mean, the story of the college football season, as
much fun as we've had playing the games this year,
has been the coaches that have been fired, no doubt,
and the openings that exist. I mean, LSU and Penn State.
That's I mean, you don't even need to go further
than that. Let alone show CLA Stanford.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Florida, Florida, come on Florida, like you're kidding me up. Florida,
Penn State, LSU.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
You can argu those three of May through the top
ten jobs in the country.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
And somebody gets fired, an NFL guy or a college guy.
Somebody gets fired after every weekend football some big story.
This week it was in New York with Dabole. So
it's it's pretty wild and it's interesting to keep up with.
And then it affects people that do have their head
coach in place like Washington because rumors starts swirling about
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guys like Jed Fish and the rumors start through the agencies,
and the agencies know what's going on because they're the
ones that place these guys in different places with people
they know or people they're friends with or whatever. And
that's how the USC stuff, all those rumors have gotten
started with Lincoln Riley.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Well, you heard Wilner's theory on the UCLA gig. What
did he say, Casey Wasserman that his agent, Jed's agents
Doug Hendrickson who works for Washerman and Casey Wasserman, Is
he not the biggest donor booster at UCLA?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
What he says, go and he throws Jed's name out
there is if there's interest with UCLA and Jed to
kind of drum up the sexiness of that job down there.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
And that's very possible that Jed might want it. I mean,
would they hire him?
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Would they want Jed Fish at UCLA?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
If Casey Wasserman is close with him, He's the guy
that calls the shots. So the answer is yes. If
you mentioned Casey Wasserman, then yes, Casey Wasserman is behind
everything that happens at UCLA.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Is he behind them going to Sofi Stadium and leaving
the Rose.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Bull Probably him and Kevin Demoff, the rams GM guy.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
What do you make of that by the way people
are pissed down there?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Huh, Well, it's stupid. It doesn't solve any of their
problem and it just shows how out of touch they
are with their actual fan base. But UCLA football has
always been pretty tricky. It's a lot of layers to this,
but ultimately UCLA going to Sofi swallow them up, just
like UCLA at the Rose Bowl. But at least the
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Rose Bowl is an iconic college football venue. Granted, the
parking sucks, but the parking sucks it Sofi. Granted it's
far from your campus, but Sofi is not that much closer,
and it's the other direction in literally the most traffic
Freeway on Earth. The four h five North and South
(16:26):
between Westwood and Inglewood sucks. And what you really want
if your UCLA is the students at the Games. It's
a gigantic university, and you want the students at the Games.
And the only way to get the students at the
Games is to have something closer to the campus. And
they have a gigantic track stadium that could be you know,
(16:50):
throw some money at it, probably the same amount of
money it's going to cost them to buy out of
the Rose Bowl deal. Throw some money at building an
on campus Troy Aikman has said this for many years.
Build an on campus stadium where Drake Stadium is at
track Stadium at UCLA. Put thirty five to thirty to
forty thousand seats in there. Make it cool. Let the
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kids be able to get drunk and walk over to
the stadium. The reason it won't happen is because of
Sunset Boulevard and the hoas for bel air in all
those places that would fight against it tooth and nail,
just like they fought against it with all their fancy
lawyers in the sixties when that idea came up, and
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then UCLA if they did have an on campus stadium.
As I've said many times, they could play you know,
their normal games there. And if you play USC every
even year, or play Michigan or Ohio State or Penn
State or whoever's coming that has a gigantic Big ten
fan base, maybe even Wisconsin, you play them at the
(17:56):
Rose Bowl two or three times a year. Yes to
your four or five games are on campus, and then
you've solved your problem basically, And that's a way to
honor the Rose Bowl contract. One thing to think about,
which is kind of interesting, is I guess UCLA has
a really bad deal with the Rose Bowl as far
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as the concessions and what they get a piece of
the parking and what they get a piece of and
all that. So some people have alleged that UCLA is
going to make more money being at SOFI, even if
they have to pay off the Rose Bowl thing. But
so far is a soulless environment. I mean, the cool
thing about playing football in LA is that you're outdoors, right,
(18:40):
So UCLA is going to play indoors at home in
La Terrible in September and Atteria. Yeah, it's it's uh,
you know, just because it's new doesn't mean it's cool.
And you've been to Sofi, haven't you not yet? No,
it's it's not. I mean it's a new stadium. And look,
I remember when they built the Jerry Jones Dome and
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it was jaw dropping and the jumbo Tron was crazy,
and I know that they're comparable places around the country
that have built since then that are really cool. But
for every Jerry Jones Dome, there's what the forty nine
ers play in in Santa Clara, which is brand new
or was brand new and absolutely sucks, just sucks. And
(19:25):
that's what SOFI is to me. I don't think it's
that impressive. I used to think the Seattle the pro
Stadium at Seattle was very underwhelming until I went to Sofi,
you know, or or the one up in a Santa Clara.
Those are a thousand times worse so I. It's a
problem without a solution that UCLA is in and going
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to Sofi is just like moving from one problem to another.
It doesn't make a lot of sense.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
There is a sign above the urinal in the men's
room in the press box at Levi Stadium that says,
don't drink the water. I'm not kidding you with that,
we will say a better people pretty dumb, pretty dumb, uh,
you know. I mean maybe somebody was considering sticking their
face in there before they saw that sign.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
I got all.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Right, but Petros Papadaka is with us. We're gonna break
Kevin Harlan coming up at five. Don't miss that right
here on ninety three three KJR.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
That's a better time slot than.
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Speaker 4 (20:39):
All right, here we go on a Wednesday afternoon.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Kevin Harlan gonna join us, coming up at five o'clock tonight.
A lot of conversation about the game he saw in
person on Sunday, which was the Cardinals and the Seahawks.
And then obviously we're gonna see the Rams and Seahawks
on Sunday, so maybe the game.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Of the week right in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
By the way, the awards are out, Tarek scooball no
shock has won the American League, Cy Young and Paul
Skeins no surprise has won the National League Cy Young Awards.
So the only question now for Tarek's schoo ball is
where does he pitch next year? Does he do it
in Detroit? Does he do it somewhere else? And if
he does do it somewhere else, what will it take
(21:19):
to get him. I want to go back to the
conversation we're having about what is it like half hour ago,
hour ago? I don't know everything blends together now about
kind of what's acceptable against the Rams on Sunday as
far as the points allowed and all that stuff. I'll
just say this from my perspective, I think this is one.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Of those games where you just get out with a win.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I don't care if it's a ten to seven game
or a thirty seven to thirty four game like for example.
I'm just looking it up to just remind myself the
eighty five Bears. Remember that Monday night game against the Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Yeah, Dolphins, And.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
This game is like, man, if you're just think, if
you're like ten years old and you're sitting home, this
game deserves to be on Sunday night or Monday night football.
Everyone's home, they're all watching. The kids aren't playing soccer
or whatever, But that was for us jackson in eighty five.
I was thirteen years old. You're twelve huge game Bears Dolphins,
the great Bears defense against Dan Marino, and the Bears defense,
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which is generally regarded as the best defense in the
history of the NFL, gave up thirty eight points on
that game to Dan Marino. They then won six in
a row and they won the entire damn thing. The
Baltimore Ravens in two thousand and Week two gave up
thirty six to Jacksonville and had to win a thirty
nine to thirty six games. So it's gonna happen. You're
gonna have an outlier where you get pushed around. And
(22:37):
maybe the Hawks have already had the out liar against
Tampa Bay. Maybe that was it for them. But I
just think this, if the Hawks lose this game on Sunday,
let me couch it this way, and they got a
stat I want to toss that in a second. If
the Hawks lose this game on Sunday, are you gonna
be more concerned about the rest of the year if
the offense gets shut down or more concerned about the
(22:59):
rest of the year the defense gets pushed around by
Matt Stafford.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
I think the offense because I just think this is
this team's defense is far better than their offense. I
think their offense is not only one dimensional. I think
it's half dimensional. Half of their passing game works, and
that's the JSN half. How are they averaging thirty points
a game?
Speaker 7 (23:15):
Then?
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Well, DeMarcus Lawrence scored two touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Last game, but that helps everybody.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Everybody has fumbles for touchdowns and pick sixes and stuff, right,
I mean, everybody look at all the top scoring teams
in the NFL right now, Indianapolis, the Lions, the Hawks, Dallas,
the Rams, all of them are gonna have some help
from their defense, right. I mean, if you take those
touchdowns away from DeMarcus Lawrence, the Hawks are probably still
averaging twenty eight to twenty nine a game, which is
(23:41):
top four or five in the NFL. But I do
agree with what you said that I think if the
Hawks defense gets pushed around, I'd be more apt to
believe that they can shove that aside and make that
the anomaly than the Seahawk offense if they get held
down by the Rams.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
Yeah, I think that's the only way to put it,
because the Rams. Have you look at the pieces, they
aren't like a half measure offense like we can be
at sometimes Kyron Williams and Blake Korham. That's they've developed
into a one to two punch like Korums had doublegitit
carries for three straight weeks like they now have. Suddenly
both sides of the offense that can get you. And
if everybody's healthy in that receiving corps.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
There right now for me the number one.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
Advertary for this entire thing, because we've seen Tampa like
they have fallen off, They've injured and you know, losing
Mike Evans and everything else, and God knows when Godwin
will be back. Eagles, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
I don't.
Speaker 7 (24:32):
I don't think the Packers are that good. And that
was maybe the worst game in football this year.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
So the Eagles offense is worse than either offense or
defense unit of So you.
Speaker 7 (24:43):
Know it's going back to my group chat. I just
put this forward. Let me put it forward to you guys.
I see these games coming up Seahawks Rams part one,
Part two, like I saw twenty thirteen Seahawks Niners. These
are the two best chiefs of the NFC. And whoever
comes out of these games. Maybe if it's two zero
for one, the teams is going to.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
Be and we are there and we won here, you know,
so we still win the Super Bowl, So that can
that can happen this year.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
He feels like teny thirteen, let's not wig out if
the defense gives up twenty seven and they lose the game,
get him here. I mean, if it's a tight game
and it comes down to whoever's got the ball last
or whatever, blah blah blah. But I mean Jackson brought
up the twenty four point a game thing earlier, right
that would you take twenty four?
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Is that what you saying?
Speaker 2 (25:23):
That's that's what buddy said. We appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I looked it up and it sounds like Jackson's buddy
actually did some research, Josh, because here's the deal. The
Rams are averaging twenty eight points a game on offense.
The Seahawks are allowing nineteen point one points per game
on defense. You know what the middle of that is
twenty four. The Hawks are scoring thirty point six per
game and the Rams are giving up seventeen per game.
(25:46):
You know what the middle of that is twenty four.
So if you're a Seahawks defender, would you be willing
to accept that, Hey, look, we're giving up a few
more points than we usually do, but we're also holding
them to.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Four points per low what they normally score.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
And if you're the Hawk offense, would you say, you
know what, will allow twenty four because it's four because
it's just four more points a game than they give up,
but it's four more points a game less than we'd score.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
I don't think there's one defensive member of the Hawks
that would say I'd take twenty four.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
I don't think they would either, because that's their standard.
I'm talking about for us. For us, would you take
twenty four?
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Now?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
I think twenty four probably wins the game, yes, But
I also think that giving up twenty four points to
the Rams. I mean, it's not like you should be
arrested for giving up twenty four. I take twenty four
on offense. You're handing me twenty four right now on
a point score. I'm signing up for that right now.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I just don't.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
I think there's two questions here. There's the one, which
is what does it take to win Sunday? And then
the other one is what does it take to make
you feel good about the future. The final I guess
it would be what seven games at that point and
the rest of the way, which is crazy. It's already
game ten. Oh my god, what would make you feel
good about the future. And I just think, guys, honestly,
outside of the Hawks their ass kicked by the Rams
(27:01):
on Sunday, I think you hang in there with them,
you fight with them. If it's a ten to seven game,
or a thirteen to ten game, or a forty one
to thirty eight game, whatever.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Right, if it's if we're talking on Monday about, hey,
that was anybody's game with four minutes left to go
then and we ended up losing, I'd be I'd be disappointed.
But I'm like, you know what, bring him here December eighteenth,
and let's get it back. Because we showed we could
play point for point with them.
Speaker 7 (27:27):
There's only one problem with relying on that game for
the Seahawks to show everything, and that's that we're in
those stupid freaking Oregon duck jerseys.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Eighteenth week. That's see, that's the game, that's Thursday night game.
That's yeah, that's a shame.
Speaker 7 (27:43):
Yeah, we have those dumb jerseys that we're gonna I'd.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Rather wear have wear of the plow than were the
organ ducks. I don't like the plot. I like these
better than the plu.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Just what I like worse the Orgon ducks.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
They're gonna look like the ducks, and I guarantee you
is some smart Alec from the Oregon social media team
is gonna up on that and say, oh, look at
this man, you're taking after us.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
The Rams also have to whar they're ugly whatever these
are this weekend.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
That's so to.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
The midnight ones.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
I don't know, man.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
I mean, I think I think the defense is going
to come to play because I think I think I
think you think.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
I think.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
I think that Mike McDonald's defensive mind is ready to
beat Sean mcvay's offensive mind on Sunday after now, I
really do.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
I think it's because I think they're both top three
in the world at their craft.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
I understand that, but I also think that Mike McDonald
is more ahead of the game than Sean McVay is.
I think Mike McDonald is right now a guy that
everybody around the NFL wants to copy, right like this
is brand new stuff. It's refreshing. He's the next wave,
He's the new flavor. Maybe I'm just saying that because he's,
you know, second year versus how many years from McVeagh now,
(28:57):
seven or eight whatever it is now with the Rams
year whatever it is now. And I just I don't
know if you put a gun to my head and
say who wins the heavyweight boxing match of coaches and
wits like in Princess Briden are sitting there and they're
doing the whole thing with the poison, right, how can
I choose the cup in front of you? Well, I mean,
I think I take McDonald. Maybe I'm being in a
homer man. Maybe I'm just enthralled by what the guy's
(29:19):
been doing with all the injuries he's got, Dick, But
I think I like McDonald because I always want the
defense against the great offense, always, always, always, yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
And it's gonna be a defensive game.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
So maybe that that tips the Hawks, It tips into
the Hawk skills because they have the defensive coach. I'm
I'm just thrilled that we're here in the middle of
November and we're talking about a game with this magnitude.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
I'm trying to think that's right.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
When is the last Seahawks game that we went into
the week saying, man, the winner of this game could
be the favorite to win the NFC. It might be
what Jacks is talking about. Twenty fourteen probably was the
last team. They've only been seven to two twice since
they won the whole thing. Other year was nineteen, So
this is only the second time since they won the
championship they've even been seven and two and been in
(29:59):
a position to do something like this. So, yeah, this
is this freaking huge, dude, Huge on Sunday. Huge and
I mentioned huge four nine four five one Text amennials,
what's your early take, give us your insight, paint your
picture for what's gonna happen on Sunday. And then Kevin Harlan,
we'll spend a lot of time with Kevin by the
(30:20):
way at FIE talking about this Hawks ram game coming
up on ninety three three KJRFM
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