November 28, 2025 • 14 mins
Jen shares her life navigating a husband with two completely separate families, the toll it takes on her and the kids, and the impossible choices she’s had to make. The Morning Show dives into the challenges, the heartbreak, and the messy reality behind living in a secret family situation.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Today's Daily Highlight from Elvis Duran in the Morning Show.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Happy Thanksgiving from Elvis Duran in the Morning Show. Hey,
we're talking about the fact that you hear these stories
all the time. I don't know how they do it,
how they find time to do it, but their husbands,
fathers out there who actually will have a family on
the west side of town and also another one on
the east side of town, and they're living these double
(00:25):
lives with two families, and they get away with it.
And so Gandhi made a comment, I thought this was very,
very telling.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Go ahead and tell everyone.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
So I saw a tweet the other day that said,
I feel like the female contribution to the family can
be summed up in the simple fact that mothers could
absolutely never have a secret second family. And I was like, oh,
that's so true.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Never thought of it that way, but it is true.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I can't even handle my first family. I'm so exhausted.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Okay. It says a couple of things.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Number one about how being a mother is a full
time job. You don't have time for two full time
jobs an other job as well, maybe, but also being
a guy, being a father in this type of relationship,
you have some wiggle room to go out there and
pull off some shenanigans, you know exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
And you know what I also noticed, like when you're
a girl, say you want to get your hair done
and you have kids in a family, you have to say, Okay,
I need a babysitter or I need to get someone
to cover the kids, or anywhere. A guy, normally in
a normal situation will go, I'm going to get a haircut,
and watch out the is he really going to get
that haircut? Other child's haircut?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Who the hell is Look, we're talking about one part
of society and we're talking about married couples or couples
with children. Okay, it really shows you another example of
how guys really true have it, truly have it much
easier than women.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
We really do, I mean without doubt. And that is
proof right there with what you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Yeah, I mean even just the biology of the whole thing.
As a mom, you're the one that's getting pregnant than
having the baby, and then you're taking care of it
as a newborn, where your physical body is very important
for those first you know, few months to a year.
Guys just you know, get to drop the seed and leave.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Well that's nice visual, right, all right, Well, I tell
you what all these texts coming in about what we're
talking about. It's totally easier for a husband to have
a secret family across town and neither family know about
each other than a woman.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Than a wife, yeah, than a mother. You can't do it.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
If you can, God bless you, man, I don't know,
you must have some crazy resources.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
People are texting in a lot.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Someone actually said, well, people have step families all the time. Well,
absolutely they do, and they're not unusual. I'm talking about
two totally top secret families.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Wow, you know, I don't know, totally different thing.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
And a lot of people are texting and saying, you
know what you said that comment about how guys have
it much easier than women.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Well, I work really hard. But please understand what we're saying,
what we're.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Talking about before you get butt hurt. Really, we're talking
about people who have the ability to have secret families
that know nothing about each other, and it's very obvious
in our opinion, it's easier for men to do that
than women. That's what the topic is about. Let's stay
clear on that line. Twenty is Jay from Rutherford, New Jersey. Hello, Jay,
what's going on?
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Hi? How are you well?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Is it Jay? Or I have a dirty blotch on
my screen? Is your name Jay?
Speaker 6 (03:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (03:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (03:32):
Just Jay?
Speaker 5 (03:33):
All right?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
So you always thought your husband was cheating? What did
you find out?
Speaker 6 (03:39):
Well? I had always found text messages and he denied it.
So I finally left him. And then I needed something
for health insurance, and I went on to is health
insurance and found another child's name and found out he
had had a child.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
He got the woman pregnant.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
While we were so married, and then when I found
out it was two years later. So he had a
baby and then kept the baby. He great for two years,
even though my daughter was also around this baby.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Oh my god, Oh wow.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
And his whole family knew too well.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
And so he was Was he active as a father
or did he just visit and pay money every once
in a while.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
And how actively was he into that other family?
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Oh he was?
Speaker 6 (04:26):
He was never at home.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
When we were when my daughter was little.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Yeah, he was always out and said he was working.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
But but Jade, did she know about you and his family?
Speaker 6 (04:41):
I believe now she did, Yes, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
In the beginning and she did.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
But yeah, she definitely knew about me when she was
pregnant because I had a.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Three year old.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
So you're still together.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
They're still together.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Oh, they're still together.
Speaker 6 (04:59):
And they have more kids, many other and they have
two more kids.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, wow, okay, interesting. Yeah, everyone has a different story, Jay.
I wonder how many fathers are out there who tell
family A that they have a night job in family
B that they have a day job and they just
basically don't work.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Just go back and forth. I don't know. I mean,
it's a lot of work. I mean, yeah, it is exhausting,
all the lies and all this stuff together. That's so it's.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Got to take a toll. You just got to take
a mental toll. All right, Jay, thank you for listening
to us, and you go have a good day. Best
of luck to you.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
Okay, thank you you too.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
All right.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Jen is on twenty one currently the part of a
secret family, and you know all about the other family.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Now are you okay living like that?
Speaker 6 (05:45):
Jen?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I mean, are you are you mentally cool with all this?
Speaker 5 (05:49):
No? Not at all.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, it's got to be very very taxing on you.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
It is, But I mean, what else can I do.
Speaker 7 (05:57):
I mean, you know what I mean, Like we got
two kids together, I'm like busting my ears or I'm sorry,
I'm busting my butt trying to support my two kids.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
What else can I do?
Speaker 7 (06:07):
I like, I depend on him. I need his help
with our children. It's not like and it's not easy now.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Like it can't be. I cannot imagine what you're we both.
Speaker 7 (06:19):
I mean, honestly, he does sit here and tell me
that he loves both of us, and he doesn't know
what to do.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
M I mean, I don't know what to believe or
what not to believe.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
But you you know that you gotta keep something else
in mind, Jim.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Just a thought is if you take the kids out
of the equation for a second, which is impossible almost
but no, but no, but wait, okay, exactly so it
really so it isn't about love.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
It's about keeping your.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Kids, uh well fed and and taken care of along
with the.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Right and they have a relationship with their father.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
M wow. So so you need to stand how can.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
I freak that away from them? How can I take
that away from them?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
How old are your kids?
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Fifteen and three?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
So they know what's going on? Yeah, Well, you're fifteen
year old.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
She has an idea about it.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
You, it just seems like she needs to know the truth.
I would think. I'm not a parent, so I'm just
my opinion, and my opinion is not always right. Keep
that in mind.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
I have no problem on that. I have no problem
with her knowing the truth. But my opinion is it
needs to come from him, not Nay.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
What can we talk about, Jen?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Can we talk about you and how strong of a
woman you are and how as a matter of fact,
to the point of you're doing the best you can
to be a good mom for these two kids.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
You got to.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I mean, I hope you stop down and give yourself
some credit, even though you're not in a position that's
enviable at all, and you know that, but you you,
you are working your You're working your ass off, as
you said, and I mean you you need some credit
here for being a good mom doing your best.
Speaker 7 (08:00):
I mean, thank you, But I can't look at it
that way. I mean, any mother would do this, and
it comes to your kids. You gotta do what you
gotta do.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
I mean, you can't. You're a mom. You don't have
the choice to fail. That's the way I.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Look at Gandhi, what's your thought for Jen?
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Do you ever wonder if those kids want to meet
their half siblings from the other his.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Oh, I know my daughter? Oh I know, I know
my daughter? Does I know she does.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
She's been asking about it since I mean she was
I mean four, she because you overheard somebody say something
where we live and she was like, wait do I
and was like, no, you do not have brothers?
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Now you don't.
Speaker 7 (08:39):
And then as she got older, she actually found something
in this car and she was like, who's dea?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And so so the other mom, the other mother has
no clue about you.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
You think you believe?
Speaker 5 (08:50):
No, I think she might have some idea. But I'll
be honest with you.
Speaker 7 (08:53):
If it it would get it would be I could
tell you right now, I will get physical if it will.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Okay, well that's a whole other layer, physical as in
a physically abusive If.
Speaker 7 (09:05):
No, no, no, no, I think like she would probably try,
and you know it would It would turn into a.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
Fitt fight more than likely then us just talking trash
to each other.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Well yeah, right, But as far as your as far
as the father of your your children goes, this is this.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Is this is all on him.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
I don't think I don't want to kill him at times,
but how.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
No, I know that.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
But he's the issue. He's the problem. I mean, he
really truly is the problem. He's the hinge on this door, right, Gandhi?
Speaker 5 (09:34):
I mean you agree with that right a thousand percent?
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (09:38):
So, Jen is he.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
I've been given him the ultimatum like, yo, you may
or her.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
There's been many times where it's me or her. Okay,
so with him.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
So he goes and spends time with this other family
and then comes and spends time with you guys as
a family. So it's actually like he has two full
family units one.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Yes, who is the first family? Were you the first family?
Or were they the first family?
Speaker 7 (10:07):
No? They were, they were, but that I was told
they weren't to gather anymore.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
It was what it was. Wow.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
See this guy he does not sound like a good guy.
He just does it.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I mean, I'm sure he has great qualities and I
don't know him.
Speaker 7 (10:24):
He's not a bad guy at all. He's actually a
really good guy. He's an incredible father. I know you
may not think so, and I know people are probably
going to bash me for saying that, but he is
his kids come first and that.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
Is the reason why he can't make a decision.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Okay, well that's one compartment. It's compartmentalizing. He's a great father,
but everything else, he's sucking at everything else.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah, and you know, and you need a life as well.
You need a life as well with your kids. And
I just I really think this guy needs to come
clean and fix it because he's going to live the
rest of his life like that.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Who was to live like that?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
He is zero integrity when it comes to you and
your kids.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
And he can have a relationship with all of the
kids without having the.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Two of you.
Speaker 8 (11:03):
No, no, no, no no, because the other one has
flat out told him if I ever fucked out that
you are cheating on me or whatever, I'm taking your
kids away from And she means it.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
She literally has papers drawn up already stating this.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Okay, well, see the over the overarch, the overarching theme
for all of us here and people who are listening
and trying to make life decisions. Look at what a
simple what you think is a simple decision can do
for the rest of your life.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
It can f your life up in this guy's life, without.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
A doubt, without a doubt that I can't.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
I can't take my kid's father. I thought about it.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
Listen, I've got times where my whole house has been
packed and I was on my way to Florida. Like
I am not joking, plane tickets bought, apartments, running out.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
We were done. I am dead. It was over, and
I mean not.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
There's been other places too where I've literally I've tried
to uproot my whole life and been like, he'll never
find me.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
My family ain't gonna say anything to him, they ain't
gonna tell him, and it it.
Speaker 7 (12:11):
Would always turn out where I'm the idiot because then
I sit here and get a call and be like,
I can't do that to my kids.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Well, look, you know what, but you're you're not You're
your kids are not the only victims here. You're a
victim as well. And I just I hope that you've
come up with a solution because you've been living like
this for fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
That's that's a chunk of your life.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
But I look at it like this is my part.
I did something wrong.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
No, no, no, kids are kids are not a punishment.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Not a kid. I'm talking about my kids.
Speaker 7 (12:40):
I'm talking about me making that choice to stay with
him knowing damn well, like when I was pregnant, we
didn't found out I was pregnant with my first one
until I was about three and a half months.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Pregnant, and at that point it was like what do
I know?
Speaker 7 (12:54):
And it was like I gave him the option, like yo,
you sign your rights over and get out, and he
chose to.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Say, hey, other than us, I mean, do you have
a circle of friends you can talk to about this
and kind of vent and bounce? I okay, good, because
you need friends you need well, of course they do.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Well. You know, I don't blame him, to be honest, right, Well,
they hate him because he's a he's a turd, to
be honest, but a good dad, I give him that.
I don't think. I don't think.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I just don't think he's being a good dad at
all because he may support and whatever, but this isn't
good for anyone. Look, we got to run. But I
want nothing but good for you. And I hope that
your I hope your friends can keep you in check
because you need we all need to be put in
check from time to time, and you need support from
them as much as possible, and it's all the best
(13:45):
for you, and you actually gave us a slice of
life story that we had never heard before.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
And I think it's important.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
For people to know this is going on, so you
make the right decisions in life.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
And there you go.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Don't believe everything they say.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I agree with that. Believe me all right. Thank you
for being a.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
Part of We love you guys, so thank you.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Well, no, thank you and all the best to you. Thanks,
thanks a lot, bye bye, and there you go. I know,
I know it's her reality though, you know, and it's not.
It's not as easy as seeing oh just leave him.
Well no, that's it's not that simple.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
You know.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
You may have that ability to just pick up and leave.
Not everyone does. And that's why. Geez it's it's good
to hear. It's good to hear other people's stories.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
Oh no, we gotta go.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Elvis Duran in the Morning Show
Today's Daily Highlight from Elvis Duran in the Morning Show.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Happy Thanksgiving from Elvis Duran in the Morning Show. Hey,
we're talking about the fact that you hear these stories
all the time. I don't know how they do it,
how they find time to do it, but their husbands,
fathers out there who actually will have a family on
the west side of town and also another one on
the east side of town, and they're living these double
(00:25):
lives with two families, and they get away with it.
And so Gandhi made a comment, I thought this was very,
very telling.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Go ahead and tell everyone.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
So I saw a tweet the other day that said,
I feel like the female contribution to the family can
be summed up in the simple fact that mothers could
absolutely never have a secret second family. And I was like, oh,
that's so true.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Never thought of it that way, but it is true.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I can't even handle my first family. I'm so exhausted.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Okay. It says a couple of things.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Number one about how being a mother is a full
time job. You don't have time for two full time
jobs an other job as well, maybe, but also being
a guy, being a father in this type of relationship,
you have some wiggle room to go out there and
pull off some shenanigans, you know exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
And you know what I also noticed, like when you're
a girl, say you want to get your hair done
and you have kids in a family, you have to say, Okay,
I need a babysitter or I need to get someone
to cover the kids, or anywhere. A guy, normally in
a normal situation will go, I'm going to get a haircut,
and watch out the is he really going to get
that haircut? Other child's haircut?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Who the hell is Look, we're talking about one part
of society and we're talking about married couples or couples
with children. Okay, it really shows you another example of
how guys really true have it, truly have it much
easier than women.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
We really do, I mean without doubt. And that is
proof right there with what you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Yeah, I mean even just the biology of the whole thing.
As a mom, you're the one that's getting pregnant than
having the baby, and then you're taking care of it
as a newborn, where your physical body is very important
for those first you know, few months to a year.
Guys just you know, get to drop the seed and leave.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Well that's nice visual, right, all right, Well, I tell
you what all these texts coming in about what we're
talking about. It's totally easier for a husband to have
a secret family across town and neither family know about
each other than a woman.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Than a wife, yeah, than a mother. You can't do it.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
If you can, God bless you, man, I don't know,
you must have some crazy resources.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
People are texting in a lot.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Someone actually said, well, people have step families all the time. Well,
absolutely they do, and they're not unusual. I'm talking about
two totally top secret families.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Wow, you know, I don't know, totally different thing.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
And a lot of people are texting and saying, you
know what you said that comment about how guys have
it much easier than women.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Well, I work really hard. But please understand what we're saying,
what we're.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Talking about before you get butt hurt. Really, we're talking
about people who have the ability to have secret families
that know nothing about each other, and it's very obvious
in our opinion, it's easier for men to do that
than women. That's what the topic is about. Let's stay
clear on that line. Twenty is Jay from Rutherford, New Jersey. Hello, Jay,
what's going on?
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Hi? How are you well?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Is it Jay? Or I have a dirty blotch on
my screen? Is your name Jay?
Speaker 6 (03:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (03:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (03:32):
Just Jay?
Speaker 5 (03:33):
All right?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
So you always thought your husband was cheating? What did
you find out?
Speaker 6 (03:39):
Well? I had always found text messages and he denied it.
So I finally left him. And then I needed something
for health insurance, and I went on to is health
insurance and found another child's name and found out he
had had a child.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
He got the woman pregnant.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
While we were so married, and then when I found
out it was two years later. So he had a
baby and then kept the baby. He great for two years,
even though my daughter was also around this baby.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Oh my god, Oh wow.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
And his whole family knew too well.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
And so he was Was he active as a father
or did he just visit and pay money every once
in a while.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
And how actively was he into that other family?
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Oh he was?
Speaker 6 (04:26):
He was never at home.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
When we were when my daughter was little.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Yeah, he was always out and said he was working.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
But but Jade, did she know about you and his family?
Speaker 6 (04:41):
I believe now she did, Yes, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
In the beginning and she did.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
But yeah, she definitely knew about me when she was
pregnant because I had a.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Three year old.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
So you're still together.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
They're still together.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Oh, they're still together.
Speaker 6 (04:59):
And they have more kids, many other and they have
two more kids.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, wow, okay, interesting. Yeah, everyone has a different story, Jay.
I wonder how many fathers are out there who tell
family A that they have a night job in family
B that they have a day job and they just
basically don't work.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Just go back and forth. I don't know. I mean,
it's a lot of work. I mean, yeah, it is exhausting,
all the lies and all this stuff together. That's so it's.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Got to take a toll. You just got to take
a mental toll. All right, Jay, thank you for listening
to us, and you go have a good day. Best
of luck to you.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
Okay, thank you you too.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
All right.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Jen is on twenty one currently the part of a
secret family, and you know all about the other family.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Now are you okay living like that?
Speaker 6 (05:45):
Jen?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I mean, are you are you mentally cool with all this?
Speaker 5 (05:49):
No? Not at all.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, it's got to be very very taxing on you.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
It is, But I mean, what else can I do.
Speaker 7 (05:57):
I mean, you know what I mean, Like we got
two kids together, I'm like busting my ears or I'm sorry,
I'm busting my butt trying to support my two kids.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
What else can I do?
Speaker 7 (06:07):
I like, I depend on him. I need his help
with our children. It's not like and it's not easy now.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Like it can't be. I cannot imagine what you're we both.
Speaker 7 (06:19):
I mean, honestly, he does sit here and tell me
that he loves both of us, and he doesn't know
what to do.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
M I mean, I don't know what to believe or
what not to believe.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
But you you know that you gotta keep something else
in mind, Jim.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Just a thought is if you take the kids out
of the equation for a second, which is impossible almost
but no, but no, but wait, okay, exactly so it
really so it isn't about love.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
It's about keeping your.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Kids, uh well fed and and taken care of along
with the.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Right and they have a relationship with their father.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
M wow. So so you need to stand how can.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
I freak that away from them? How can I take
that away from them?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
How old are your kids?
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Fifteen and three?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
So they know what's going on? Yeah, Well, you're fifteen
year old.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
She has an idea about it.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
You, it just seems like she needs to know the truth.
I would think. I'm not a parent, so I'm just
my opinion, and my opinion is not always right. Keep
that in mind.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
I have no problem on that. I have no problem
with her knowing the truth. But my opinion is it
needs to come from him, not Nay.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
What can we talk about, Jen?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Can we talk about you and how strong of a
woman you are and how as a matter of fact,
to the point of you're doing the best you can
to be a good mom for these two kids.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
You got to.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I mean, I hope you stop down and give yourself
some credit, even though you're not in a position that's
enviable at all, and you know that, but you you,
you are working your You're working your ass off, as
you said, and I mean you you need some credit
here for being a good mom doing your best.
Speaker 7 (08:00):
I mean, thank you, But I can't look at it
that way. I mean, any mother would do this, and
it comes to your kids. You gotta do what you
gotta do.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
I mean, you can't. You're a mom. You don't have
the choice to fail. That's the way I.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Look at Gandhi, what's your thought for Jen?
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Do you ever wonder if those kids want to meet
their half siblings from the other his.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Oh, I know my daughter? Oh I know, I know
my daughter? Does I know she does.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
She's been asking about it since I mean she was
I mean four, she because you overheard somebody say something
where we live and she was like, wait do I
and was like, no, you do not have brothers?
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Now you don't.
Speaker 7 (08:39):
And then as she got older, she actually found something
in this car and she was like, who's dea?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And so so the other mom, the other mother has
no clue about you.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
You think you believe?
Speaker 5 (08:50):
No, I think she might have some idea. But I'll
be honest with you.
Speaker 7 (08:53):
If it it would get it would be I could
tell you right now, I will get physical if it will.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Okay, well that's a whole other layer, physical as in
a physically abusive If.
Speaker 7 (09:05):
No, no, no, no, I think like she would probably try,
and you know it would It would turn into a.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
Fitt fight more than likely then us just talking trash
to each other.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Well yeah, right, But as far as your as far
as the father of your your children goes, this is this.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Is this is all on him.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
I don't think I don't want to kill him at times,
but how.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
No, I know that.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
But he's the issue. He's the problem. I mean, he
really truly is the problem. He's the hinge on this door, right, Gandhi?
Speaker 5 (09:34):
I mean you agree with that right a thousand percent?
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (09:38):
So, Jen is he.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
I've been given him the ultimatum like, yo, you may
or her.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
There's been many times where it's me or her. Okay,
so with him.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
So he goes and spends time with this other family
and then comes and spends time with you guys as
a family. So it's actually like he has two full
family units one.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Yes, who is the first family? Were you the first family?
Or were they the first family?
Speaker 7 (10:07):
No? They were, they were, but that I was told
they weren't to gather anymore.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
It was what it was. Wow.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
See this guy he does not sound like a good guy.
He just does it.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I mean, I'm sure he has great qualities and I
don't know him.
Speaker 7 (10:24):
He's not a bad guy at all. He's actually a
really good guy. He's an incredible father. I know you
may not think so, and I know people are probably
going to bash me for saying that, but he is
his kids come first and that.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
Is the reason why he can't make a decision.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Okay, well that's one compartment. It's compartmentalizing. He's a great father,
but everything else, he's sucking at everything else.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah, and you know, and you need a life as well.
You need a life as well with your kids. And
I just I really think this guy needs to come
clean and fix it because he's going to live the
rest of his life like that.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Who was to live like that?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
He is zero integrity when it comes to you and
your kids.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
And he can have a relationship with all of the
kids without having the.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Two of you.
Speaker 8 (11:03):
No, no, no, no no, because the other one has
flat out told him if I ever fucked out that
you are cheating on me or whatever, I'm taking your
kids away from And she means it.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
She literally has papers drawn up already stating this.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Okay, well, see the over the overarch, the overarching theme
for all of us here and people who are listening
and trying to make life decisions. Look at what a
simple what you think is a simple decision can do
for the rest of your life.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
It can f your life up in this guy's life, without.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
A doubt, without a doubt that I can't.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
I can't take my kid's father. I thought about it.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
Listen, I've got times where my whole house has been
packed and I was on my way to Florida. Like
I am not joking, plane tickets bought, apartments, running out.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
We were done. I am dead. It was over, and
I mean not.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
There's been other places too where I've literally I've tried
to uproot my whole life and been like, he'll never
find me.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
My family ain't gonna say anything to him, they ain't
gonna tell him, and it it.
Speaker 7 (12:11):
Would always turn out where I'm the idiot because then
I sit here and get a call and be like,
I can't do that to my kids.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Well, look, you know what, but you're you're not You're
your kids are not the only victims here. You're a
victim as well. And I just I hope that you've
come up with a solution because you've been living like
this for fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
That's that's a chunk of your life.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
But I look at it like this is my part.
I did something wrong.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
No, no, no, kids are kids are not a punishment.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Not a kid. I'm talking about my kids.
Speaker 7 (12:40):
I'm talking about me making that choice to stay with
him knowing damn well, like when I was pregnant, we
didn't found out I was pregnant with my first one
until I was about three and a half months.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Pregnant, and at that point it was like what do
I know?
Speaker 7 (12:54):
And it was like I gave him the option, like yo,
you sign your rights over and get out, and he
chose to.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Say, hey, other than us, I mean, do you have
a circle of friends you can talk to about this
and kind of vent and bounce? I okay, good, because
you need friends you need well, of course they do.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Well. You know, I don't blame him, to be honest, right, Well,
they hate him because he's a he's a turd, to
be honest, but a good dad, I give him that.
I don't think. I don't think.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I just don't think he's being a good dad at
all because he may support and whatever, but this isn't
good for anyone. Look, we got to run. But I
want nothing but good for you. And I hope that
your I hope your friends can keep you in check
because you need we all need to be put in
check from time to time, and you need support from
them as much as possible, and it's all the best
(13:45):
for you, and you actually gave us a slice of
life story that we had never heard before.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
And I think it's important.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
For people to know this is going on, so you
make the right decisions in life.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
And there you go.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Don't believe everything they say.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I agree with that. Believe me all right. Thank you
for being a.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
Part of We love you guys, so thank you.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Well, no, thank you and all the best to you. Thanks,
thanks a lot, bye bye, and there you go. I know,
I know it's her reality though, you know, and it's not.
It's not as easy as seeing oh just leave him.
Well no, that's it's not that simple.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
You know.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
You may have that ability to just pick up and leave.
Not everyone does. And that's why. Geez it's it's good
to hear. It's good to hear other people's stories.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
Oh no, we gotta go.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
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