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October 23, 2020 43 min

Lisa Birnbach talks with investigative reporter Joe Conason about his mentor, Wayne Barrett and what it takes (and what you can lose) to be a great investigator. Joe has written the intro to the new book called "Without Compromise: Wayne Barrett, and The Brave Journalism that First Exposed Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani and the American Epidemic of Corruption" and you can tell from the conversation that Wayne was the real deal.

The 5 Things that made Lisa Birnbach’s life better: 1. Madewell jeans, 2.  The Vow – the documentary series on HBO 3.  NY Times Spelling Bee Article 4.  Rex Chapman and twitter connections, 5.Nancy Pelosi

Joe Conason’s 5 Things: 1. Proraso shaving cream, 2. CBD oil/balm for sleep and pain, 3. Avatar: The Last Airbender with my daughter Eleanor, 4. Sailing on Sunfish and Quest with my son Edward, 5. Instant Pot Duo

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