Forty-Six: MAGA Brainwashing Is Real

Talking about MAGA brainwashing and how it has made otherwise intelligent people believe the most nonsensical things.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello, Welcome into another episode of the Brat Mason Show.
I'm aforementioned Bratt Mason. Glad to have you here. What
a core group of subscribers I have in this podcast.
It's amazing. I'll be honest with you, I'm surprised anybody
subscribes to this podcast. I probably wouldn't listen to it. Nevertheless,
if covering controversial subjects and trying to approach them from

(00:24):
a analytical, logical, scientific, educated, and life experience standpoint are
your thing, you have found the right podcast. I estimate
that's about seventeen people in the country total are up
for that. Some revisiting this idea, this cult thing, because boy,

(00:52):
I got some feedback on the cult thing. Well, I
mean I get feedback every time on the Facebook page
when I post something about the cult. I had two
private messages after the episode we did that talked about
the cult. But I think I saved my goodwill, good
hearted United Humans message till the end of that episode

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that time, and I want to stick it at the
beginning this time. I don't care what religion you believe
in or what God you believe in. That's one of
the beautiful things about America. It's freedom of religion, not
freedom of Christianity. It's freedom of religion, any religion. And
so man, you just worship whoever, however, as long as
you don't hurt other people, or force your views on

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other people, or force your rules on other people, or
force your morals on other people. Like, religion is a
personal thing for you. It's your walk with your God.
And if he tells you to wear this, you wear it.
He didn't tell me, so that's first of all. But
I love you, and right until the point you get
past the end of the nose on my face, I

(01:58):
don't care what you do. Obviously that extends to the
nose of other people's faces too, because I'll obviously stand
up for them. So that's the first thing I'll say.
And then secondly, as far as politics goes, I don't
care who you support for president, who you want to
elect for president. Like, the limits of our constitution were
really tested by Donald Trump last time, and we survived mostly.

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I say mostly, because we're definitely in a worse place.
But you know, I've long tried to to share this
understanding of how our republic works and that your power
as an American citizen lies within the House of Representatives.
That's how our founding fathers created the power structure of

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this of this country. The people have the largest number
of representatives that you'll find in Congress, in the House
of Representatives, and it's based on a number. It's a
number of people, unlike senators. Don't get me started on that.
But senators were never, never, ever intended to reflect the

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will of the people. Senators were originally designed to be
there to stand up for the best interests of the state.
Since then we've changed that to now senators, you know,
have to make promises to people too, just like congressman.
But the number of members in Congress is based on

(03:33):
a certain number of people, and so that certain number
of people is designed so that every citizen could theoretically
have direct influence on their representative, which you can. I've
done it many, many, many, many, many, many many times.
I've called and spoken to my representative directly a couple

(03:53):
of times. And then I've called many times and spoken
directly to their primary aid, which you know we can debate.
Does that aid send the message to them if enough
people called with the same point of view, I have
to assume it would. Now it's just one person's point
of view, maybe it doesn't make it through the noise.

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And then I've also sent them endless emails and gotten
personalized replies, not just formultter. I've also gotten formulater replies.
Don't let me wrong, but I've gotten personalized replies to
so that I know they actually read my message. Now
you tried doing that to a senator, it's going to be,

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if not impossible, damn near impossible. And then do it
to the president. It completely impossible. Like you have no
influence on a president. You have zero influence over a senator.
It's the only influence you have. The way your power
is channeled up through the maze that is our government
is through your representative. It's not by electing Donald Trump.

(04:57):
It's not by electing Joe Biden. They are simply chairman.
That's their position. They're kind of like they don't all
in the country. They just kind of sit there to
fill the role. They kind of set a tone, they
kind of encourage a viewpoint, they sell. They're there to

(05:17):
sell a message to the people. Here's my vision. You know,
do you you get on board or not. But it's
up to the people through their representative. To go that crap.
He's saying, I'm not on board with that, don't support it.
That's that's his vision, it's not mine. So in theory,
if enough people in the country contacted their representative said, look,
whatever i'd voted for the president or I didn't, either

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one doesn't matter. This stuff he's talking about wanting to
push through and wanting it to be on the agenda.
I don't support it, and so I don't want you
to support it. And hopefully enough people will call and theoretically,
if enough people called any one, single representative, they would
make that representative vote know on whatever that agenda is,
and then around the country of enough people call their

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individual representatives, you could get enough representatives to vote no
to shut an agenda down. And that's how the power
of the people works. Unfortunately, in today's republic, this wonderful
United States of America, nobody understands that. Nobody knows it.
Nobody calls their representatives, nobody emails the representatives, nobody goes
to the representative's office, nobody. All they do is sit back,

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post it on social media and vote for a president
and go, well, it's gonna fix you. It's gonna fix you. Right,
you're getting the right preddy and they're gonna fix you. Well,
that's not going to fix it because you've now abdicated
all of your power and your influence over every single
issue to essentially what is a monarch or a dictator.
And then that's what happens. They get elected and then

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the whole political party goes, we got a mandate. The
American people said they want to do everything we want
to do, and then the president puts all this stuff
through and they push it through and they claim they
got a mandate because the president was like, it should
never work like that. Elert think a president should never
be construed as electing a mandate from the people for

(07:04):
that party to do everything that president says. That's just
never been intended that way. Our founders would roll. I
bet they are rolling over their graves if that's such
a thing. They're rolling over their graves right now at
the thought of how this country is being run and
how just freaking ignorant. I don't know, I'm going to
ballpark it. At ninety two percent of Americans are ninety

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two percent of voting Americans are so freaking ignorant and
in the dark on how they have power in this country,
that they advocate their power to a monarch or a
ruler or a dictator in the form of a president,
and that's why the nation has been screwed for several
decades now. Anyways, I kind of god sidetracked, but my

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point was like, I don't care if you vote for president.
If you think, excuse me, if you think a president
represents you know, some lane that you were on board with,
then support him by all means. But holy crap, don't
take everything he says to be fact. Don't worship him
as if he's the new Messiah, and don't say it's

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his way or the highway. And then don't label every
person who opposes any one, part or all of his
agenda is being evil. This thing where you're classifying your
fellow Americans as being evil because they disagree with you
on a political subject, it's the most insane thing I've
ever heard of. It's insanity. And then I guess secondarily

(08:34):
to that was this whole thing of patriotism, Like the
Republicans are the worst about this. Democrats do it to
some degree, but it's like, well, if you don't do this,
you're not a patriot. I'm a patriot because I support this.
I'm a patriot because I support that. No, no, no,
You're a patriot because you participate and you respect the
process and you respect the Constitution. That's what makes a patriot.

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That's what makes them complain and simple. It doesn't matter
what your viewpoint on any subject is. As long as
you respect the process and you respect the hierarchy and
you mobilize your feet and your phones and your hands
and your eyes, and you participate in the process and
the way it was intended through your representative, then whatever,

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it doesn't matter what your opinion is, Like you're a patriot,
Like we all have different opinions, So I want to
get that out of the way. I respect you vote
for anybody you want. I've never personally held it against
anybody who voted for Trump, even though I don't understand it,
Like especially the Christians voting for There's never been a

(09:38):
more Unchristian, unbiblical, unrighteous human that ever walked the planet
than Donald Trump, and they think he's the new Messiah.
It's so bizarre to me. Anyways, I wanted to talk
a bit more follow up, just just to scoach on
this cult behavior, because you know, I say it and
I realized it's inflammatory, and so now any body that

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voted for Trump thinks I'm calling them a Trump member. Now,
to be fair, I believe the vast majority of them
are because I run into them everywhere and I hear
what they say, and I see what they do, and
then I see their post on social media. The vast
majority of them are full blown cult members, but not everyone.
Like when I say that, it's if you're not, then
I'm talking about you. I actually know a couple of

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I don't know what's the number. I mean, I could
go through my head looking at faces, and I don't.
I'll ball park it. It's five people, it can be
a little more. I'm a ball riding around five people
that I know personally who I know voted for Trump,
if you will. With their nose clenched to board off

(10:42):
the stench, they're like, he's not the best. But I
just I can't. I just can't, but Biden in. So
you know, I hold my nose and I vote for Trump.
Those people aren't cult members, they're just they don't. They
don't like either one of them, and so given the
fact that they think both of them are pretty egregious
in some ways. They just vote for the one that's
with their party. I mean, I get it. Like I

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still don't think that's very smart, but I get it.
And then you've got the rest of them who have
been brainwashed and assimilated into this propaganda machine, and it's
a self replicating propaganda machine thanks to social media. So imagine,
if you will, the way Hitler and I hate to

(11:26):
use that word, but imagine, if you will, the way
he rallied his country around this concept that turned into
them endorsing him doing horrible, horrible things. He did it
one crowd at a time, out on the campaign trail.
You would go and make these speeches, some certain percentage
of the crowd would be excited about it, which would
begin a discussion in that area, the country, or whatever.

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And then he would travel somewhere else and do another speech.
And this was a you know all process that he
had to do. He had to do. And then these
discussions will happen in a town hall, or it would
happen at a lunch count, or would happen at church
or you know wherever. These small discussions would happen. And
so it took a while for this, right, I mean,
considering the way he did, it happened pretty fast. But
compare that and contrast that with today, where once you

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get people cycled in and assimilated, they just become propping
into spreaders for you because they just posted stuff on
social media all the time, just they just posting stuff
all day, and then they're reading the stuff other people
are posting all day, reposting it, there by endorsing it,
and then you get these clicks, and then the way
social media and algorithms work, social media starts only feeding

(12:32):
you that kind of stuff. So if you're one of
these people who thinks democrats or pedophiles, and Joe Biden
is a baby diddler, and I don't know, Bill Clinton
had somebody assassinated, I'm trying to think of all the
dumb things I've heard. If once you get into that

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loop and the social media algorithm figures that out, now
they just repeat all you've see in your feet is
that stuff. And so now your fee just becomes that
in which point, like you may have let's say you
have let's say have five hundred friends on contacts on
the social media, and let's say out of that five hundred.
I'm in the South, so I'm going to go heavily

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towards this right wing side. Right. So, let's say in
this area of the country, if you have five hundred contacts, friends, followers, whatever,
people you follow, etc. On your social media, five hundred
of them and so let's say only one hundred of
them are of the other political persuasion. So it's four
to one, which is what Alabama is. Alabama is about
four to one. The only stuff that will ever come

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up on your feed that you will ever see is
the four hundred who just regurgitate the stuff you regurgitate.
You will never see an opposing view. The stuff that
the one hundred of the other political persuasion post will
never come up in your feed. You'll never be exposed
to it, and you'll never see it. Now, there is

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a hack of that. So I know some you may say, well,
I'm of the other political persuasion and I see your
garbage in my feed all the time. Well, it's because
you interact with it. You you you see it, you've
seen it at sometime in the past or something, and
you commented on it, or you liked or you disliked it,
or you you know, threatened me or something which many

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people have done, and now that it's seen you engage with,
it is now tweaked the algorithm to so that you
know pretty much all your other friends of a different
point of view. Never you know that you never interacted
with any of their posts. They get drifted out of
the algorithm, but I somehow stay in there, so you know,
my stuff stay may stay may may pop up still

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in your feet from time to time, but the vast
majority of everything that cycles through your feet is it's
just regurgitating stuff that it knows you already liked to
see and you believe in, and that you want more of.
And it's just a self replicating, self reinforcing so that
you in your mind you begin believing that it's where
by things the way this is right, I'm in with
everybody there and with me f those other people, and

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that's not that's just not the reality of the country.
Just isn't the reality of the country. And so it's
a it's a it's a propaganda machine, and it's a
self fueled propaganda machine. Thanks to social media algorithms. There
should not be if if Congress we're going to outlaw
anything Congress should outlaw social media algorithms. And I'll tell

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you who does it better than anybody. I don't know
if you're a TikToker or not, but TikTok is the
most genius algorithm thing ever. Like I remember when I
joined TikTok and I'm flicking through the you because I
don't know anything. I don't know any people on there,
and I'm just flicking through and stuff, and you know,
just flicking, flicking, flicking, and then I saw something that

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interested me, and I watched the whole video, which at
that time I think was it was a I don't know,
it was short. Then I think you can do like
three minutes or ten minutes now or something, but I
think at that time you can only do like a minute.
But you know, I watched the whole thing, and I
go back to flicking, and now I would say, like
two out of every five things I see is stuff

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related to that one video that I just watched a
minute of. Instantly it changed just like that, And now
as I'm flipping flipping, I saw another thing I liked,
and I watched that video. And now as I begin flipping,
things related to those two things now become like seventy
five or eighty percent of my feet and only occasionally
does stuff not really And then you know, within me
using TikTok for a week, but they knew everything I liked. Like.

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I never saw hardly ever a video in my YouTube
and my TikTok for you feed that I didn't like.
I just liked all of them. I'm like, oh yeah,
I like watching stuff about this. I like seeing stuff
about this. I mean, TikTok is the mac Daddy of
understanding howlgorithms work. But they all do it. YouTube does it,
Instagram does it? Facebook does it? You know. You know,

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I'm for freedoms to a certain extent, but I'm one
hundred percent convinced that al rhythms is what has deepened
the divide in this country because you get in a
circle of things that just reinforce your one little niche
and you don't get exposed to anything else, no matter
how great the other things may be. Because I'm going
to tell you right now, Democrats have good ideas about

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some stuff they just do. And if you don't believe that,
then you're brainwashed. You're just brainwashed. Because I don't agree
with hardly anything that the Republican Party has been a
part of since I mean, really the Bush Era, you know,
you know, I guess part way through the Bush Era,
towards the end of the Bush Era, especially maybe the
last two three years of the Bush Airs, when I

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really just didn't like much that they were about either.
But since then, like the Republican Party is just going
off the rails, Like the Republican Party left me, I
don't even recognize it. I don't even know what it
is anymore. It's certainly not what I grew up with
and spent most of my adulthood being a part of.
It Ain't that anymore. And so I don't like I

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can count on one hand, and I don't even need
all the fingers to count the things that I agree
with any of them say anymore. But I do agree
with some things, like they're right about some things now,
whether they're just saying it to placate people and it's
something they'll actually do remains to be seen. Like the
one that really gets me is all this. Every time
I see something talking about, oh, it's the federal deficit,

(18:23):
it's the national debt, but it's gonna bankrupt our grand children. Meanwhile,
Trump literally spent double the money we don't have of
any other president to ever exist, eight trillion dollars in
four years. That's a average of a two trillion dollar
a year deficit, when before the most we'd ever had
was about a one trillion dollar a year deficit. He

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literally doubled it. And by the way, once he went out,
it came back down under Biden to know something more reasonable.
So look, I don't want to hear how much you
hate the debt and all that. As a matter of fact,
I remember when Trump was running the first time he
was in this interview, they were talking about national debt
and Trump Trump said unequivocally, and you google this quote
you can find I'm not making it up, but I

(19:06):
don't remember who was interviewing, but he was like, I
like that. He said. The problem is is people don't
know how to use that. But I've used debt in
my whole life to build my wealth. And he did.
He did. He financed everything on debt. And you know,
he gets praised for it, but he shouldn't get praised
for it. Like, think about all these contractors. These are
hard working men that work out and my son all

(19:27):
day building stuff, that build his casinos and stuff, and
then he just goes files bankruptcy and he doesn't pay
any of them, and all these companies went out of business.
These contractors, you know, were out of work for god
knows how long, and I don't know how they took
care of their families, like you know, yeah, I know.
He does like debt. He loves debt. He loves to
take debt and then make it look like an asset

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so he can get more debt, so he can get
more things, to make them look like more assets, so
he can artificially inflate his worth so that he can
get more debt. That's that's what he does. If you
don't understand what Trump does as a quote unquote businessman,
that's what he does. He owns very little. Most of
the things around the world that have Trump on them,
he just leased his name to them because he's somehow

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built some kind of reputation in the eighties and through
the nineties as being some kind of amazing business person,
which the facts do not bear out. But anyway, the
man loves debt. He one hundred believes in debt. He's
not against debt. He's on record as being for debt,
but now he says some stuff otherwise. Now. But I'll
tell you what's even more disgusting to me is all

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of his followers support him wholeheartedly when he is the
exact opposite of the thing they claim to be. Like,
I remember how they used to beat Obama up over
the debt. You know, look at Obama's debt and compare
Obama's debt to Trump's debt. It ain't even lay in
the same universe, Like comparing Trump to Obama. Obama was

(20:51):
like the most conservative person ever. And then, oh god,
I don't get me started on Clinton. I remember during
the Clinton years, I was a staunch Republican man. I
was drinking the kool aid. You know, if we'd have
had social media back then, I would have probably been
a full blown cult member, just like they are today.
But what's weird about that is in historical hindsight, once

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I feeled those scales away from my eyes, and I
could go back and analyze each presidency by a period
and analyzed very different things by far going back to
how far I've studied it, which is Reagan, Clinton was
the best president for controlling deficit spending and the debt.
Now part of the reason he was was because he

(21:35):
was smart enough to enter into an agreement with Newt
Gingrich and this Republican caucus and they come to some
understandings and the next thing, you know, like this deficit spending.
It just was. It was the most moderate that we've
seen of any president. And he's the most hated he's
I remember that time. He was just viewed as being
a godless heathen, spending liberal, crazy whack job. And man,

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you compare Clinton to Trump, Clinton, freaking Clinton looks like
one of the saints. Man, he looks like he should
get his own statue in the in the Roman Church.
When you compare the two, like, Trump is the most
godless heathen I've ever seen in politics, and it's by
a mile he is in comparison. I mean, Clinton looks

(22:21):
like a harmless butterfly. But that's on. That's just from
a morality standpoint, Like neither one of them the best morals,
don't get me wrong, But compare the two. I mean,
when I think back the way Republicans were about Clinton,
Oh God, they just went off on him about his
morality and what kind of human he is and how

(22:42):
he's horrible, blah, blah blah. But these are the same
people now that worship at the feet of Trump like
he's the new Messiah. It is the most amazing transformation
of right wing Christians I've ever seen, which don't get
me started on that. But Christianity today is some watered down,
bullshit version of some stuff that used to exist at
one time. Like I got only Fans Christians, Man, I

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see them posting and preaching on Facebook about Jesus this,
and faith this and prayers this. Meanwhile they're spreading their
legs and having sex with people on only Fans for money,
And I'm sitting there going what what is? What in
the world is going on? Like I remember when I
was growing up being a Christian, nobody was drinking. As
a Christian man, nobody was drinking. They didn't even use

(23:28):
wine in the communion. They used grape juice. Now, man,
I don't know hardly any Christians that don't drink, Like
I know my aunt and uncle don't. I don't know,
maybe my cousins, I guess probably don't. But man, most
everybody I see anywhere that identifies as a Christian that drink,

(23:51):
they all drink. Then't no problem when it's just drinking
is fine. Cussing, oh, they all cut even the F word.
They all cuss like nobody's business. And I'm like, what
are y'all like? Who are y'all like? When did Christianity
become like we can just do any damn thing just
as long as we say we're Christian. It's bizarre. But anyway,
that whole devolving of Christianity into whatever sewer it is

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now is what allowed Trump to be the new Messiah,
because if you had the Christian standards that they had
in the eighties and the nineties and stuff, when the
period I'm talking about, none of those standards would have
ever allowed a man like Trump anywhere near the White House.
And so it's just this evolution of this evolution of politics,
this evolution of Christianity, has all been guided through on

(24:39):
a hyper level by social media, which is my point.
So the last one thing I wanted to say is
to these cult members. So I get pushed back on
why you keep saying a cult member man's not a
cult member's going to extreme And I'm just going to
give you one example, but I could name ten. But
as you know, I spent on a law lot of

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time around the country in poker rooms, and some of
my best friends and people I'm most close to now
are poker players. And there's just one guy. He's a
great guy. There's no doubt in my mind. This guy
is just a great guy. I love talking to him.
I love I love if I'm at a table with him.

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I love it if we're standing in the doorway or
hallway or out in the parlor. I just, I mean,
I thoroughly enjoyed talking to him. He's a smart guy,
he works hard and all this stuff, but he is
a Trump cult member. And the reason I use him
as an example is because I spend many hours with
him at a at a poker table, So you don't
often get to spend like hours and hours around people

(25:41):
in an environment like that. But from the time he
walks in that room once he gets his name on it,
even if he doesn't come to playbooker, once he's on
the list for a table, he has that phone open
and he is just scrolling either Facebook or whatever he scrolls,
and it's just all Trump Republican propaganda, all of it. Ever,

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it's just and he'll sit beside He'll be sitting beside
me sometimes and like we'll played next to each other
for like four hours, and the whole four hours when
he's not in a hand, it's just it's just none
stop scrolling this propaganda. It's just being fed right straight
into his cerebral cortex, like he's just downloading it. If
you don't think that's brainwashing, then you don't want brainwashing.
Is So that's number one. Number two is and again

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I like the guy a Ton. He's a nice guy.
He's a friendly guy. I think he's a good guy.
I think he's an upstanding guy. I think he's a
hard working guy. But anything you talk about he he
switches it around to be something about Biden, Like you
can't have any conversation with him that isn't about Joe Biden.

(26:48):
It's the most bizarre thing I've ever seen. You know,
something will happened at the table and this like the
worst hand will win or something, and oh what what
like something Biden would do? And okay, I remember I
ordered something something then they'd gone up on the price,
which this place did I go? They go for on
the price like every three months they've been doing or

(27:09):
three or six months they've been doing it ever since
I've ever been going there, which is for years and
years and years, and something went up. I made a comment.
He was like, yeah, but Joe Biden done that. Joe Biden.
I'm like, okay, I remember, you know a while back,
I tripped and fell and then I was telling somebody

(27:30):
about it, and he was at the table and he's like, oh,
of course you got that, Joe Biden sin drome on.
You got Like every little thing and everything he witnesses
and encounters in life is viewed through a political lens
of Trump good, Biden baden. So anything that good happens,
anything that happens in his life or at the poker

(27:50):
table or down the street or in the city, or
it's all that's all somehow related to Trump, and anything
that's bad that happens or negative happens, it's called a
bidenness or a bid like like his entire brain is
filtered through Trump Biden. It's the it is the most
it's the most cult thing I've ever seen. And he's
not the only one. I mean, just in terms of

(28:14):
people I play poker with, I can name three right out.
He's one of them. Three right the top of my head.
That's all they do at the poker table is scroll
social media for three four, five, six hours non stop.
That phone is just flicking, and that they're just downloading
Republican Trump maga propaganda the whole time, and everything they
say is about it. The one who's a woman, she

(28:37):
wears shirts all the time that are all Democrats are evil,
or we should deport all the Democrats, or like everything
in her life is around politics, and I'm like, holy crap,
this is just a cult. It's all a cult. Now
will it will? In fairness? And I got like a

(28:57):
minute left in fairness. This does exist some degree on
the Democrat side as well, So this I know means
strictly a Republican maga thing, but it's easily tend to one.
Like I know a ton of Democrats who they don't
like Biden. They think there's better candidates, they think there's
better Democrat policies than what they've seen. They'll speak negatively,

(29:22):
like I've never heard any any maga speak negative about
Trump ever, no matter what he did or what he said, ever,
no matter how horrible it was or horrendous, they just
defend it. They defended the grabbing the pussy, They defend
the cheating, they defend, the many divorces, they defend all
the bankrupt business that. They just defend everything the man does.

(29:45):
I implore you. I implore you to stop downloading information
and being brainwashed. Please. How ironic that I'm telling you
this in a podcast that you had to download, But
I implore you, please,