Episode # 101: Anisha Ramakrishna chats Family Karma, finding love and why friendships are so important!

Anisha Ramakrishna stops by Chanel in the City to chat with host, Chanel Omari, all things Family Karma on Bravo TV!

Anisha chats why season 3 is so much more different than season 1. She chats finding love and showcasing her marriage on national television, freezing her eggs and why it was so important for her to marry within her culture.

Anisha also chats her journey in fashion and tranistioning in to television but still keeping her passions in fashion a reality.

Anisha chats this seasons conflict amongst her friend group and how they cope with it and manage to all still stay friends!

Tune in to Family Karma every Sunday night on Bravo TV at 9PM.

Episode Transcript

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Hey, everyone, Welcome back toanother episode of Chanelle in the City on
iHeartRadio. I am your host,shanel A Mari and I have a very
special guest here today. I loveher, We love the show. She
has her own clothing line called shopcurrently dot com that we're loving. She
is on one of our favorite BravoTV shows season three called Family Karma,

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every Sunday night at nine pm.And she's brilliant. She's beautiful. We
have a lot in common. Pleasehelp me welcome my dear friend, Anisha.
How are you? Oh my gosh, I'm doing well. And what
an intro? I feel like,Wow, I'm like the queen fere like
I made it. Yeah, thankyou for that, and how do we

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I just wanted you to pronounce yourlast name as well for us. Such
a beautiful last name. Thank you. It's actually it's actually pronounced just how
it's spelled. But it's Rama,Krishna, Rama Krishna. I love ods
Ram and Krishna. That's so beautiful. Ram and Krishna. So there,
that means two gods in Indian.Now those are two of the names of

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the gods, different gods. Sothere's Ram and there's Krishna. So my
name is the two names combined RamaKrishna. Well, please help us.
Welcome Anisha, Rama Krishna. Youare amazing. How are you on Family
Karma? What an amazing show?Can't stop watching it on BravoTV. Talk
to us because you're the og originalg you started season one, two three.

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Sometimes we see cast members change.Talk to us about why season three
is so different for you and howamazing it is to actually get into a
season three. Yes, I mean, what an achievement for me and my
friends, you know the friends,you know, Yeah, what an achievement
because we don't know what's going tohappen every season. We don't know if

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we're going to get another season.So thanks to the viewers and the fans
and the people that love the showso much, we have like a cult
following, right. I feel likeFamily Karma's like a future cult movie,
Like it's going to be iconic.It's iconic right now the Aunties, but
down the road you're going to belike, wow, that was a change

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in history and American television that Ido believe that when we want when I
watch it, you know, Igrew up similar to you guys, I'm
an Israeli Colombian Jew, but Igrew up well that's that's a wealthy time's
and there's and I have Arab inme, so you know, it's growing
up in a brown family, justa Middle Eastern different culture. I had

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a lot of Indian friends growing upand dated some Indian men, so like
I I understand that there's like theaunties and then and when I watch it,
it's just such a great, beautifulculture. Like I always wanted to
go to India. Talk to mea little bit about how how does that
play a role? You know foryou? Was that something that you wanted
to expose? Was it something thatyou didn't want to expose. No,

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I we wanted to showcase precisely thatbecause our culture, it's a community.
And if you go to any Indianhome, you know, like once you're
in the house, you're part ofthe family. And that's just how it
is, you know, the grandparents, the parents, the kids were together
all the time. I was talkingto someone recently and they were like,

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did you know this and this?I'm like, no, because a lot
of the time we're with our parentsand just like you see in the episode
last week, I was only talkingabout, like why did you tell Rishie
to Ryan when I was in hisroom? Because you know, we can't
talk a lot about a lot ofthings in front of the parents. So
it's a unique show because the othershows, like you can be wild and

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ratchet, but how would you behaveif you were with your parents in a
room? Right? That's an interestingright, because like that's what you have
to think about, that you're realisticallyliving with your families and it's part of
the culture. So that's something that, yeah, you have to take into
consideration. What you were talking usa little bit about the You know,
this season is different than other seasonsfor you because of COVID, Right,

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the restrictions uplifted, So talk tous about that. Why is it so
different? It's so different because nowwe actually get to engage with fans on
a personal level. I meet peopleall the time. You know, I
moved. I live part time nowin Arizona, so I've take a lot
of red eye flights. You know, I'm in Miami right now. I

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was in New York, but alot has changed. And to see people
all over the country watch our showis just amazing. And going to Bravo
con was magical because we had neverexperienced that as a cast because we were
in lockdown or COVID or there wasa restriction, and so to be able

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to do all that stuff, Imean, it's been surreal because we didn't
know how many people actually watch ourshow, right, And on that side,
you know, we taught we seea lot more drama happening this season.
You know, the first two seasonsare a little bit like easing you
into it. Yeah, the orientedfun. You have a very hardcore friend
group, both men and women.I find it interesting tell us how you've

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managed to still stay friends throughout allthis time, like the ups and downs,
and still have like a successful workingrelationship, because I think that's the
hardest part, right, Yeah,well, I think where you see it
like it's been a struggle and youknow you have to work at it.
Right, it's a constant up anddown. When a lot of us now
it's life, Right, you getinto your late thirties and people start getting

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married, and you know, relationshipschange and people have relationship issues. It's
not just like we're young and we'refriends now and we're hanging. It's like
we have people's partners involved and there'smore people in the group, you know,
so there are a lot of differentdynamics. It's like friends with your

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friend their spouse. It's funny thatyou bring that up. It's interesting because
on Chanel the City, we're gettinga lot of questions about and myself to
have experienced where I'm in a relationship, and then your friends want to dictate
where that relationships going, where it'snot going. And then not only your
friends, but like your freenemies Icall them, were outside noises. And
you are recently now in a relationshipcongratulated, Well you're married. Yes,

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I just graduate a month ago.That is amazing. First of all,
your congratulations. I'm so happy foryou because we've seen your journey with love
up and down from season one.We are similar in age. I'm not
married yet. I'm in a relationship, but it's been It's tough when you're
in a relationship and there's ups anddowns and you're in the public eye,
and people don't understand that there's alwaysgoing to be issues in a relationship.

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It's never going to be like eachis increasing. Yeah, and maybe you
met someone that doesn't want to beon TV. Right, so right,
exactly, I mean, I knowin my relationship he's not into the public,
he's not into any of this stuff, So that becomes an issue in
the relationship. We have to talkthrough talk about it. Yes, But
in general, I think people wantto they want to define you in a

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relationship for some reason. What doyou think that's it? Like, how
do you cope with that? Andwhat do you think that's about? Well,
I think the reality is you knowwhat you're seeing. You know not
when your friend group isn't number one, and maybe you put them in second
place and you put your relationship first. Then you get the oh, she
left everyone for a guy, andit's like you have to realize I was

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single and celebrate for five years.I gave everything to my career and to
my friends. I was always likethe supporting friend. And then from one
day to the next, to changethat. People in your friend group are
going to be like wtf like becausethey're not used to that it's new,
and so I say it is myselfish era and I had to do this

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for me because I'd never put mypersonal life first. And it got to
a point in COVID I realized,like I do want to be with someone.
I do want to have a lifepartner, but none of that's going
to happen if I don't make ita priority. And that's exactly what I
did and had to do to makethat happen at the expense of, you
know, the ups and downs withmy friendships with my friends. Wow,

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that's so powerful to say, right, you needed to want to make it
happen, because I was going tosay, why do you think it took
this long for you? Was acareer? Was? It? Will?
Be very open? I said iton you Know Brandy Glanville's podcast. I
got mixed reviews. A lot ofpeople are like, your poor husband.

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I'm like, nope. So basicallyI believe in monogamy. I believe in
long term life partnership. I thinkthe idea of marriage as in signing documents
and making it legal and all ofthat is obsolete. Me and my husband,
we are in love, but wemind papers and got married for our

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parents and society. That is thetruth. Does that mean we're not in
love, No, it just meanswe live in a society where as a
woman. For me, I canspeak on my experience. It got to
a point where that was my identitythat I wasn't married, literally and not
just in my culture, in theworld. I would meet people and they'd

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be like, do you have ahusband, you have a kid like or
you know, are you in arelationship, And I'd say no, and
then all of a sudden it waslike something must be wrong with her or
she's you get to a certain agewhere it's not cute anymore to be single,
unfortunately, And so you know Idealt with a lot of that.
And you see that in season oneand two, I was the only single

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one. Yes, you were solong to you the most for that reason
too, because you're articulating very wellwhere it becomes our identity and it's sad.
Yeah, And so I only saidthat where marriage is obsolete and all
of that. And I said thatbecause I don't want women to think they

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have to get married, because youdon't. We don't live in a time
anymore where you have to. AndI'm telling you why I signed papers for
the family, for my parents,for the culture. It's like, I
know me and my husband love eachother day, we need the piece of
paper. No, did I makedating my full time job for two years

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to find you know, my nowhusband? Yes, because it's not just
going to appear from the sky likethey say, like if you want it,
it'll like show up Like, no, you have to make an effort.
I said yes to every date,every setup. I joined the dating
apps as an elder millennial geriatric.My dream was not to find someone on

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a dating app. That's how ithappened. You know, we weren't.
We didn't grow up in that time. We were in the all like you
didn't. Really, we weren't inthe dating app era, the older ones
in the millennial generation, and soin the pandemic, I felt like I
had no choice, like where everyonewas at home, And so I think
I got lucky because there are peoplewho usually aren't on the apps, like

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myself on the app. So youhad more options during the pandemic. So
you met him on an app,your husband now? Yeah. Having said
that, I encourage people to goout and talk to people, Yeah,
which is hard since COVID, Right, it's like you want to have this
computer or like they come up withall these new things Facebook Dating, They
come up with all this stuff,and that's that's I think. It's there's

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too many options, you know,so I don't talking to people get yourself
set up with people from friends.That's the way to go, you know,
Yes, And I got a lotof heat for saying men are trashed,
but I found one that I wantto try marriage with. But when
I say that, no one didanything to me, No one hurt me.

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Variance with men has always been great. It's just we live in a
patriarchal society unfortunately, and so youknow a lot of you know leaders or
you know people in our lives.And I've seen how men have you know,
done some damage. And I justwant women to know, like,
you don't need a man, butif you want a man, please go

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find the man of your dreams,just like I did. Right. It's
just a strong message because especially inour cultures, it's like your identity.
Like even now, the latest thingI'll be open with my parents, like
don't come home too much, don'tleave your husband so much. Rights again,

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my husband's fine with me, likecoming to Miami for a work gig.
How does he feel about write yourcareer? So it does he is
he supportive. I wouldn't be withsomeone who was not supportive. And he's
told me, babe, go beyondfamily karma, beyond your podcast to the

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very similar. It's like you havea very rational head space about this whole
thing mentally, you know, Ithink it's very hard when you're in the
public eye or in general in arelationship, like you're being really mature about
the message. And I think itis important for women to understand that we
don't need a man, but ifwe want a man, that's okay.
You know. I don't know ifyou've felt this way, but growing up,

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it was always like you're an oldmaid, right if you don't have
a man. Or the religion andthe spirituality came in it into it a
lot, like, well, Godwants you to procreate. And I mean,
so, what do you say topeople out there that have that guilt
where they feel they need to procreate. They're at the age of thirty eight
like myself, and they don't feelthey're getting married anytime soon, or they
don't see their relationship going anywhere.What do you say to those people?

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I say, ignore the noise,but no in your heart, because I
do see a lot of young womensaying they know they don't want to have
children. Things change every year inyour thirties, you think something different,
Like I'm saying one thing today,next week, I don't know what I'm
going to be saying, right,like you're changing so much, and we're
living in a world where things arechanging rapidly too. So like maybe the

(15:58):
thirty year old thirty years ago couldn'tgo freeze her eggs, right now we
can and now you have. Ialways say, instead of buying that bag,
instead of going on that vacation,you can go on a payment plan
and freeze your eggs if you reallywant to. That's what I did,
because I still don't know at thirtyeight if I want to have children.
I like to say, me andmy husband are flex on kids, and

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if we are going to have one, we'll have one. Yeah. I
think that's so powerful what you're saying. It's like you need to know what
you want and know it and thenplan for it. I think a lot
of times we don't do that.We are so we doubt ourselves. We're
unsure of ourselves because of society andwhat society trains us to feel. Which
is why I love watching your storyon Family Karma, because you have like

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this beginning, middle, and endwhere you're giving hope, right, you
always want hope at the end ofthis story, and even if you were
still single now there's still hope bythis message of you don't really needing yourself
unless you want something. I thinkthat and I want yeah, and I
want everyone to know you have tomake the effort and you have to know

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what you want, and you haveto kind of like not have your entire
list as much as it sounds likethe end of the world. Like,
my husband's not six feet fine,he's five nine. Oh, that'll do.
You compromise? Hey, you compromisethere. I say, he's tall.

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On his money, that's all thatmatters. And as long as he's
giving you the vitamin D once amonth, just kidding, I'm just saying,
you know that once a month isjust fine. Honey. Well that's
I was gonna say. Do youthink intimacy is important? And I was
having a conversation with some of mygirlfriends the other day and a lot of
people right into Chanel the city askingabout the intimacy factor. I guess,

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how do you spice it up ifit's not there? And do you think
it's that important? If it's notthere, They're not the one? Okay,
you need to want to sleep withyour man or who your partner,
whoever you're with now how often wouldyou say is healthy? Okay, So
it depends on your body, right. I think your body is different.
I think your work is different.Everyone has a different career, a different

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body, a different libido, differenthormones. I think the norm the average
American married couple, it's statistically isonce a week. Ain't no shame in
that way, once a week onlysome people? Are you boning every day?
I mean, when I'm in abook case, explain well, I'm

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in a relationship, right, andwe were in the beginning. We've been
together for a year, and Ithink part of our well, my love
language was not every day, butlike a couple of times, maybe three
or four times a week in thebeginning. And I know that we had
issues about because he would say tome, hey, babe, just because
we're not boning every day, doesn'tmean I don't love you, and it
doesn't mean I don't feel for you. Also, Ben, after thirty five,

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just so women who are listening,note, a lot of my guy
friends, I'm putting this out thereand they're gonna like be so mad.
They're on biagrahunt Like after thirty five. A lot of men can't get it
up. I'm so happy. Thisconversation took a turn burn. I know,
I'm sorry we're gonna change gears,but I was going to tell you
that that's important to say because theperson I'm dating is older, and we

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don't we forget that as women.I think we're so used to with the
patriarchy being so submissive and what doesthe man want? And how does the
man validate us? Right? Yeah, right, when you look at statistics
and you actually do research and youeducate yourself, and you'd be confident you
can have a healthier it could comeup with a healthier narrative on the communication
is key, right, just talkabout it, be open, and you

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know, figure out something that makesboth of you happy. But I definitely
to your original question, intimacy isvery important. And what do you say?
So two questions about like dating ingeneral? What is your advice to
women out there who recently are goingthrough a breakup? What would you tell
how would you tell them to copewith it? How do we cope with

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that? A breakup is tough.It took me five years just to recover,
and that's a little extreme, butthat's because some of us, I
think, are more sensitive to theworld than others. And I really think
like I just take things deeply andintensely, and the thought of like moving
on in a week is like unfathomableand was, and you get stuck in

(20:34):
this mentality of maybe I'll never findanyone again. And that's kind of what
I got stuck in. And Ididn't even make the effort. I just
made all those assumptions as soon asI went out there and started dating and
put myself out there to be rejected, to be told like, you know

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what, I really like you,but I don't want to be with someone
who's on TV anytimes. That waspainful, but you have to go through
it. And if you're going tonot put in the effort, wait for
someone to knock on your door,it's not going to happen. And when
I say, you don't need everythingon your list, focus on three things,
That's what someone told me. BecauseI met an older man who was

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like a very successful business man andhe's like, you're just like my daughter,
Like you know we have I havetwo daughters. They're both single like
you, and it's just you.You girls want you know everything, and
he's like, what do you want? I was like, I want someone
Indian that's six foot, who's dance, who'd likes to dance, who who's
funny as well, who's never beenmarried and doesn't have kids, who has

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hair and is successful and older thanme, but also, you know,
not too much older than me.And I want him to be Indian,
and I want his family to getalong with mine and all these and he's
like okay, and he literally hitLease a businessman, so they did like
a consulting thing. He's like,okay, so Indians, there's like a

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billion of you. You want someoneIndian in America, So already that's like,
let's just say a million of you. You want someone with hair,
who's over thirty five, Okay,there's like ten. And then he's like,
you want someone who it's funny,who dances, who's six foot like
five people. So he's like,there's five people in the world for you

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based on your list, and heput that into perspective, whereas like,
Okay, how many restrictions have Iput where there's eight billion people in this
world and now because of all myrestrictions, we're down to five literally five
people like never been married, nokids, Indian, hair, like tall,

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tall, like educated success, it'slike it's never ending. So then
I decided, let's focus on three. Number one physical attraction. You talked
about intimacy. You need to wantto be intimate with your partner and be
attracted to them. Number two integrity. I don't want to wonder at night
like where you are? What ishe doing? Like what's happening? Like

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I want peace. If you're notbringing peace, get out of my way.
And number three, I wanted someonewho was ambitious. And I found
those things. I've you know,focused on those things when I would meet
people, because if I was basingoff my list, me and my husband
would husband wouldn't be together. He'salso two years younger than me, right,

(23:33):
So that's that's important. Those biglike those main concepts of looking for
somebody, and if you and Ithink that helps people when they break up
with the person they thought they shouldbe with, because they can move on
and say, hey, maybe there'sthere are other things that I need added
this and you know, pick yourpoison hunt. Someone's going to have something
annoying. Yeah, which annoying thingyou want to deal with? We're all

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annoying, Well you talk about right, And I think that's interesting. A
lot of girls are in relationships thatwrite in that say, my boyfriend works
at in hospitality, I don't knowwhen he comes home, he's around a
lot of pretty girls. I feellike the girls don't have boundaries. What
do you say, like, howdo you and Ben work out where it's
a feeling? Yeah? What's thelike? How do you not become the

(24:18):
jealous woman but also the woman whohas respect and has boundaries in respect for
herself. I think that's something thatas women in general, for me,
even as a strong woman, havebattled in relationships with men who are very
you know, either misogynistic or justmen in general. Like you know what
I mean that. I think wehave to listen to our body. And
if you don't feel safe with someoneand you're doubting someone, you're probably right

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and that person isn't for you.It should be easy. You should get
a feeling of peace. You shouldbecome with your partner. You shouldn't be
wondering where they are, or whohe's texting, or who he's comparing you
too. Oh he's comparing if anyone'scomparing me to anyone, goodbye? Like

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I said, we're living in aworld now we're getting married as a risk.
So know that by marrying someone it'sa choice and you're giving them the
opportunity to be with you. Andwhy give someone the opportunity to be with
you if they don't make you feelsafe? That is very good advice.

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I think that's a very powerful andthat's a feeling I can't help anyone with.
That's a feeling in your gut,in your heart, in your space,
in your mind. Like I don'tknow how you feel or what makes
you feel that way. That's somethingyou have to learn about yourself. And
that's why I think a lot ofwomen like need to sit and figure out

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what do they want, how dothey want to feel? How do they
want to have someone make them feel? And a lot of times no one
wants to hear this. What areyou bringing to the table? You have
your list of what you want?What are you bringing to the table?
Hun totally it's a two way stree. This is such good advice because it's
really an eye opener. It's abouthow does that person make you feel.

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You could love someone so much andturn a left eye for them constantly,
but if they're making you feel acertain way, that's when you know,
to say goodbye, but then youalso have to reflect and see what you're
bringing to the table or not.It's a give or take. Relationships are
complicated, you know. That's thetruth. I like that there are with
it. There are no right answersevery relationships. Different people tolerate and expect

(26:33):
different things, So it depends onthe specific situation. But I'd say,
knowing what you want and what youwant to put up with because everyone's annoying.
Yeah, I feel we're all annoying. We're all annoying. You're so
right. Yeah, on that note, we see your relationship, you know,
unfold this season. We have awedding, we have bodies in a

(26:55):
relationship. You guys are close.Talk to us about what we can anticipate.
What what from your lens, whatdo you think the drama is within
your friends and your relationship, Likewhat has been the obstacle? I would
say, I also think you know, we have two weddings this season,
and the viewer can see and itwas a learning experience for me as well.
In my friend group. Just becausepeople have been together for ten years,

(27:19):
fifteen years, marriage changes every Yes, yes, and you'll see that
you're going to see that it's notthe same and the friends. You're saying,
you're going to see how the friendsare changing the dynamics and in their
relationships, spouses and in the friendgroup all of it. Do you feel

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like sometimes in general, friends willsee even there in they think they're in
a good relationship and then they seelet's say you in a relationship, and
they project whatever they don't want onyou, Like, has that happened?
Yeah? And I think that's fairbecause we all ultimately want the best for
each other and it's not intentional totally. How do you guys bounce back?

(28:04):
You and your friend group? Um, when you guys have conflict on the
show and off the show, howdo you guys maneuver that? I think
it's very uni. Were in avery unique situation because bouncing back means you're
at the next event with your families, right. You can't really continue this

(28:27):
for too long or you're going tosee them right, right? So do
you know that you have to confrontthat? But do you confront it and
say sorry, do you guys havea you know, how do you like
to deal with confrontation? I shouldask? I mean, you saw me
and Michelle and rich at the dinnerthat was I gotta tell you, we're

(28:51):
so badass at that dinner because Idon't know, See, I can be
confrontational, but I'm like learning intherapy how to be confrontational, like in
a healthy way. Like how youwere in that dinner where I do feel
you were very You were standing byyour conviction, but it wasn't like you
were yelling. It wasn't like ata character. It's my point, it's
hard to get to a point ofconfrontation and not get out of character.

(29:15):
Yeah, like, what were youthinking during that whole dinner? Like take
us through that, especially with somemen. Not to make it women against
men, but it's it's a sensitivetime. Yeah, right, men fight
differently than women. That's yeah.Tell us what was going on through your
head during that scene? Well,I think just you know, staying calm

(29:36):
is I'm actually very low key.As much as I have a big personality,
I'm not someone that ever raises myvoice. It's also my personality,
Like I don't scream. People sayI sound like Daria, you're a little
bit, but I wish I wouldlike that yet, So I'm not one
to scream. It's not my natureand I might have intense opinions, but

(29:59):
I don't, like I'm not abig loud person, Like I'm not loud
physically, like I don't scream.And honestly, like I said earlier,
the relationship is the priority right now. So you can be mad, but
it's not changing the fact that rightnow it's not a priority. Like at

(30:22):
what they were mad about that youweren't putting them as friends as a priority.
Yeah, and I, you know, was single for five years,
was always the supporting friend, wasthe only single friend in the group.
And now you know, I hadto make this relationship a priority because I
never made my personal life a priorityever before. Do they get along with

(30:42):
him? Now? We still allhave to meet because, like I said
on the show, I'm a womanof my word. No one's meeting my
husband until we're married. Because Ihad so much trauma from introducing people to
to the community and then it wouldn'twork out. Yeah, I get that,

(31:03):
And then it became a joke,right, humiliated because then you feel
like you're totally I like, oh, who is it this week? Right?
So it's a catch twenty two becauseit's like you want to show that
you're yip, but then you don'twant to talk about it because you don't
want everybody in your business. Yeah, so you will do sign up for
a show. But then my husbanddidn't sign up for the show, so

(31:25):
that was different as well. Youknow, but I was very open at
that dinner and you know, saidsaid what I had to say. But
you know, to set the recordstraight, you know, Rachelle was upset
about the rs VP. He's veryhappy that I'm with someone, but the
rs VP situation, obviously they sentsent the dates and rs vps a year

(31:48):
before the wedding, and you knowI said yes a year before the wedding.
I didn't know a year later thatI'd be moving to not still and
living their part time and with someone. So a lot of changes happened,
and you know those weren't communicated.So that right, we're clarifying why he
was so it was because he invitedyou to his wedding of where year ago

(32:12):
with an art and I did,like technically, like if we're looking at
technicals, yes, I said yes, RCPM coming for him, rsvping was
you're my friend, like booked theroom and I understand that, but I
had to put the relationship first inthe situation I was in, because I

(32:35):
had never done that in my entirelife. I totally know what you mean
because the relationship I'm in now,I had to make decisions where I put
the relationship before certain things in mycareer with friends, and I get.
I totally understand, because sometimes youhave to make that relationship work. I
really obviously am in love with myhusband, and I wanted it to work.

(32:57):
I wanted to work, and I'venever felt this way about anyone before.
So it was also different like beingwith someone you actually want to marry
and finding that person you're going tomake a different kind of effort. I
wouldn't necessarily say it was dropping everyone for a man. It was more
like, I need to make thiswork. This is my shot because I'm

(33:22):
with someone fabulous. I totally getthat, and so I think the message
too, is sometimes you have toput your relationship first. In general,
I think a lot of us don't, and we want to make our friends
happy, we want to have itall. But when you're against the grain,
I think taking a page out ofyour book makes sense. You're very
buck about it. You know you'renot saying I'm gonna excommunicate all my friends.

(33:44):
I'm gonna make time for them.But when it comes to my relationship,
if I'm so secure in it,I need that first because that's my
happy space. Yes, IgE,that's you loving yourself. You're putting yourself
first. By the way, timeout, just to let you know,
there's five more minutes on the zoom. But if we get through it,
I just will sign back on justfor another ten more minutes. Thank you.
Okay. Um. In terms ofthis season, who would you say

(34:07):
was the most challenging um to getalong with out of the cast? For
you, but I think you seeit. It's for me. It's a
constant uh up and down battle withVischelle. You know, I think there's
a lot. I think Michelle hasa lot going on in his life.
And do you think he felt theclosest to you in the past, And

(34:30):
that's maybe why we see a lotof the project like the absolutely absolutely,
because like he said, we haveover twenty years of friendship and so you
know, he's getting married and allthe stuff he has been dealing with with
his mother in law, and you'veseen it unfold. I mean we're watching

(34:52):
as viewers. I'm watching like you. Like those season ones and twos were
tough watching your friend get beat uplike that by his mother in law,
like his future in laws. Youknow, it's not fun to watch,
and watching it must be painful forthe person of course you're reliving it.

(35:13):
Yeah, well that's all I wasgoing to ask you too. In general,
you know, how does Vishal's partnerand your partner feel about just being
friends for that long? I meanit has there ever been a boundary issue
or not really? Because no,no, because we're like, you know,
it's like brothers your own right boundariestogether, sister type. Yeah,
and our families it's like, literallywe've known each other our entire lives.

(35:37):
Our parents have known each other forover thirty years, and you know,
you just don't want to see yourfriend hurting. Yeah at the end of
the day, right, And sometimeswhen you bring the truth to your friend
about that, they are not readyto maybe accept it too exactly. And
you're going to see a lot ofthat this season with the relationships, like

(36:00):
the people who are married or gettingmarried or together, and with the friendships,
you're going to see the different layersbecause ultimately, now like we're adding
people to the friend group, right, because now they have partners and husbands
and that's life. That's what happensas you get older. Yeah, exactly,

(36:21):
it's reality. And even though youdon't want it to be part of
your reality, sometimes you have todeal with that. That's true. It's
funny because I'm dealing with it inmy own life and then I realize,
h, this is actually what theysay in shows and movies, and I
never related to that. I waslike, why can't everyone just get along?
And it's not. He has one, two, three, And now
I, you know, I,you know, don't want to insult Richa

(36:44):
either. That's Vischelle's wife. Sowhen I speak to Vischelle now, I
speak, you know, to Vishelleand Riche as a unit, right,
because that's the respect thing. Yeah, the same way I would want them
to speak to me and my husbandas a now because now they share a
life together. I totally agree withthat. A lot of people in general

(37:06):
and society. Now, I don'tknow if you've heard about this, but
the millennials don't agree with that mentality. So I don't know if that's from
us, you and I being raisedin the culture, or like meaning more
of a sheltered culture or more justit's a millennial thing. Why do you
mean just Some people feel like,no, well, I'm individual, and
so what I try to tell millennialsin general is like, no, when

(37:27):
you're in a relationship, you're signingup for more than me. You're signing
up for we. And the thingis, you can't be we whenever you
want and me whenever you want something. I think you have to, you
know, have a balance, standby your man kind of thinking, by
your woman no matter what. Yeah, and you say to that. Well,
also in this case, like theyhadn't met him, Like my friends
are like, when are we goingto meet him? And I said,

(37:50):
you'll meet him when I get married. What people? You know, Bravo
showing you everything. It's like whatthe viewer chooses to pick and choose.
Bravo showing you the whole story.You will see you've seen my grandparents haven't
met my boyfriend when we're watching,so my friends are mad that they haven't

(38:12):
met him. My own family hasn'tmet him. My grandparents have not met
him during the season, so it'slike I'm dealing with a lot of other
things with my family as well,you know, so before we're even talking
about you being mad, he hasn'teven met my family. Totally. It's
right and bravos showing you that.But no one's like picking, you know,

(38:37):
they want to pick and choose,and that's that's why you have a
show. That's what's fun about ashow. You have very different opinions,
and you know you have to beopen to all the all the opinions of
all the viewers. I love that. I love how self a where you
are talking about who you get alongwith the most disease and we do see

(38:58):
your friendship with Bali, who Ilove too, and I love you guys
friendship. Talk to us a littlebit about your friendship and how did you
get to this place of like thisclose. Yeah, I think it was
just we're girls girls at the endof the day. And I think a
lot of people tell me that,they're like, we know you're a girl's
girl. Like I'm all for women, and you know, Bolli's a strong

(39:22):
woman and you you want to bearound women that encourage you and uplift you
and have your back. And Ithink in season one, do you see
that right off the bat, youknow she has my back, She sticks
up for me. She stands upfor me, and she's not afraid to
be the only one to do it. Yeah, that's the that's the key

(39:45):
important to find a woman friend likethat. It's very rare to be honest
with you. And you know,we we have very different lives, right,
Like Bolly's has a daughter, andyou know O'Malley and you know you
seen and heard her story about divorceand you know now you know, living
with her parents again and all ofthat. And you know, I've never

(40:07):
been married up until now literally amonth, and so I think she's got
a lot of wisdom. You know, it's like one of those learned from
your mistakes. And if you havesomeone like that in your life who's acknowledging
their mistakes and sharing that with youon what not to do and what to

(40:28):
do in terms of dating, marriage, you know, family, just life
advice, like why not? LikeI think it's a blessing that I have
that from her as well. It'snot just a friendship, it's also just
like someone who's there to like giveyou good advice. Yeah. I love
that. It's very important to havethose kind of people in your life.
Like talking about mental health because thepodcast is about mental health. How do

(40:52):
you, you know, cope withmental health your own and what is your
advice for us to you know,whether you're on a big TV show or
just how life gets stressed. Imean, it's it's so tough right like
these days because we have so muchgoing on. It's not like you can
really sit down a lot of thetimes and focus on your mental health.

(41:12):
I think it's a luxury for alot of us. And so you know,
when I'm down, when I'm stressedout, the best thing for me
is to talk, I say,spiral with friends and family, Like I
don't spiral with my partner unless it'slike about him, Like I talk to
my mom and my friends about whatI'm feeling, Like you know, when

(41:37):
you're filming or you know things arehappening, or you don't know if you're
going to get married, or youknow you want this to work out,
Like is he going to propose?Like things like that, Like I am
very grateful that I have a supportsystem in my family and my friends.
The friends that you know, Ido like talk to them as well that

(41:59):
I think talk about it. Yeah, talking about it is important. I
think the worst is to keep itto yourself for act like you know,
you've got it all together, Likesometimes it's okay to not have everything perfect.
Yeah, I think what's interesting forme is obviously my business. You're

(42:19):
going to see, you know,a big fat Indian wedding that I tell
i'mred. I'm like, you're soannoying because you had my dream wedding and
I joke with Bali, I'm likeit should have been us and yeah,
and then you're going to see Michelleas a newly wed with Richa and you
know they're obstacles and like what's goingon with Auntie Lopa and like you know,

(42:44):
Monica and Rischie. Obviously that's abig you know, part of the
season and how that unfolds and melike, you're going to see like am
I going to get engaged? Andobviously people know the outcome, but to
see what it took to get there. And there's a lot of controversy around

(43:06):
that too, right because the Auntie'sopinions matter. Talked to us a little
bit quickly about Auntie's in your culturewhat it means because a lot of like
the family, you know, youguys feel like your family, but also
why does it matter so much theopinion of your parents. With your husband
now and that journey, you know, it's a lot of pressure. I
feel you. I understand my wellgoing yeah, going back to BALI right,

(43:29):
she's a friend and an auntie withthe aunties, but she's my friend
just like Auntie Kulpana in the seasonis a good friend of mine and a
good friend of my mom. Soit's just like dynamic where they are your
elders and they have experienced life andso far they're happy. They've gone through

(43:50):
ups and downs in life with kids, marriage, family, parents, They've
seen a lot. So it's kindof like a blessing we have them in
our lives because whether we like itor not. I was telling my friend
the other day, our moms arealways right. Yeah. Unfortunately, unfortunately,
our moms always know. You know, my mom always warned me about
certain relationships, and I would alwaysget angry with her and be like,

(44:13):
why don't you just let me behappy? Why can't you? And she
would say, you know, she'sgetting better now at expressing herself, So
because I would, I would tellher, I'll rebel moore if you yeah
on me? Why he's not goodenough for you why he's not. And
at the end of the day,you're right. I think they just know
they have a sixth sense. Theyhave been through it themselves. They're wiser.
Yeah, so I think them likewe have them as a guide,

(44:37):
right, Like they're there to guideus and they only mean well, and
they're from a different era. Theydidn't have most of the choices or options
that we have, you know,so for them, they're trying to navigate
as well to understand how we thinkand how we feel. Like I do
think our aunties make the effort tostay hip and in the know, and

(45:00):
well that's a lot of because theysupport your being a career woman and married
at the same to get it right, they get it. They just don't
want to see me alone, whichis right. That was the message you're
trying to say, Like even ifyou ended up alone, it's not the
worst of the worst like that.Yeah, they just you know, as
family as friends. Even my grandparentshe's they're like my grandfather said, you

(45:22):
know, it's all fun now,but one day we're going to be gone
parents, So they worried. Theywant to see you with someone and whether
that works out or not. Likein life, the way they've been raised
and the way they've lived. Justyou know, you're with a companion that

(45:44):
can help. And when they sayalone, like in life, a lot
of people are alone and they wantto be with someone and that can be
friends, you know, partner,family. A lot of people don't have
families that are supportive or don't havea family, and so you know,
make the effort to talk to people. You don't know how lonely some people

(46:05):
might be. Totally. I totallyfeel that I felt alone a lot of
times in season one. In seasontwo, you did because of just because
you felt single or well, youknow you can are sometimes you're the only
one in your journey. I wasfreezing my eggs and looking like what I
feel like, you know, sometimesjust going through dates and you're like a
joke. I totally understand. That'swhat I've been going through before my relationship

(46:31):
now, and in general. Ijust think in general, I have this
fear of the joke being turned onme, if that makes sense. I
think we all do as women.Because of the patriarchy and because of society,
you feel like am I the buttof joke. It's also with the
whole like when you find out aman's cheating or being people you feel like,

(46:52):
I guess, how do you howdo you cope with that? Like,
what do you do back humiliation whenit comes to that, because I
mean, I've clearly been humiliated amounta TV show and you can't control what
viewers think, er say, oreven your friends sometimes because thankfully on our
show, like there is no edit, Like what you see is what you

(47:14):
get. And I think, likewe're not flipping tables and we're very real
and most people aren't flipping tables inthe world. And so what you see
from our show is like a realisticfriend group and what's happening and the real
conversations or not screaming and going crazyon each other because that's not how most

(47:35):
people talk to each other in life. And so yeah, there's been times
you've seen I've been very hurt andyou know, you've seen me breakdown and
cry. And that's all you cando is know that everything's temporary. And
that's what I tell myself. It'stemporary nothing. That's all I can say.
Right that I was gonna say toyou, like that do you have
to go through? But you haveto like just accept what they say and

(47:59):
know that that's not who you areat the end of it. Go through
it and get through it. Gothrough it and get through it. I
love that. Well, talk tous quickly before we wrap up your amazing
clothing line. What are we gonnasee from the fashionista herself? Talk to
us about what inspired you behind yourclothing line this season. Yeah so I
was actually I'm about to buy couplesmyself shop dot com. Yes, so

(48:22):
I was actually actually a VP atElie Tahari, which is a clothing line.
Wow. Yeah, I love ElieTry. You see, we don't
know a lot of things. There'sa lot of things that happened behind the
scenes before you get on reality TV. Yeah. Yeah, I was in
New York from twenty eleven to twentyseventeen. Great experience. All women.
Wow, all my bosses, allmy coworkers, all women. So imagine

(48:45):
like hormonal women on their period andyou know, it's a fun, fun
time. And I'd say those werejust really fun days. And I was
just innocent and like excited to bein that environment. And Devil Wears Prada
but more than like making you afool, making you like more ambitious and

(49:09):
growing thick skin because you're working forreally tough women, but they mean well
because they just want you to beprepared for the world and what's out there.
And I'd say the fashion industry,like with everything happening now, it's
definitely a weird industry. But Ididn't have that experience. What I had

(49:30):
as an experience was the sizing.I have a lot of friends that are
curve size, and a lot ofclothing is made straight size, and even
at Tahari, you know, theymade that change, and so you know,
going from that traditional zero to twelveto then adding fourteen and sixteen,

(49:52):
and then I thought, why notgo to thirty two because you know,
that is the reality the real bodyof women, right like, And so
my thing came at working at somewherelike Ellie to Harry the product. The
dresses are beautiful, but most curvesized women have to shop at like,

(50:15):
you know, discount stores to justfind a black black T shirt dress.
And maybe you want to wear agorgeous maxie dress, you know that has
a really beautiful print or that hasyou know, cutouts, and it's We've
come a long way from twenty seventeento now, because back when I started

(50:37):
in twenty seventeen, they were literallylike five five brands going to like five
X and I think it was likeTarget eloquy. You know, I can't
even name them all. And sonow we have you know, it's getting
out there, but now the issueis it's not actually available, like the

(50:59):
pictures there, the size is there, but when you click on it,
it's like not really there, outof stock or something. And so that's
where I came in and I createdCurrently and it's a business run by me.
I'm one person, and so alot of people are like, when's
your next collection coming out? Andyou know, you see that, you

(51:20):
know in the show, like Idid take a break to focus on dating,
and you're going to see me thisseason juggling. Do I come back
with a new collection, Do Iget engaged? How am I handling like
keeping up with my friends? Andyou know, I did get some slacked
on social media, like flacked onsocial media for you know, kind of

(51:42):
putting the friend group to the side. But there's a lot going on and
everyone's like, that's life, youjust manage a relationship. I'm like,
yeah, but I'm showing you thatI couldn't that I couldn't do it all.
Well. I love how honest youare about it, because as an
entrepreneur, like you said, you'rerunning your own business, managing and coping
with all this. Do you believewe can have it all? Or do
you believe in general you have todo it in different ways? Like you

(52:04):
said, I had to take abreak to find my dating and then now
I'm back to my fashion. Youknow, whoever's telling you they're doing it
all, I'm happy for them.I couldn't do it all, and that's
what I'm showing you, right,that's the honesty. Correct. If I
could do it all, I'd betelling you do it all. I personally
could not do it all. AndI think there's no way in life you

(52:27):
can have the perfect relationship, theperfect career, the perfect family life,
and the perfect relationship with all ofyour friends and make time for all of
that. You know, we livein a world where there's a lot going
on and you can only do somuch. Like we're human and we need
to sleep. I think sleep isso important, like eight hours a day,
and make time for you and mentalhealth. Right, the list goes

(52:50):
on and so for me personally evennow, like I've told my husband,
like if and when we have thatone child, I'm not going to be
doing it all even then, Likethere are women working taking care of the
home, cooking, managing their friendgroups, but at some point there are
cracks because you can't continue like that. Totally. Want to get your opinion

(53:15):
on where do you think the fashionindustry is heading? Since you are designer
yourself and you've had expertise running abusiness like Eliza Harri, I've I'm very
happy in my little bubble and thanksto Bravo, they've made me somewhat mainstream
and you know, have done whateverthey can on their end to support me

(53:35):
all the time, Like anytime there'slike a Bravo Khan like they've you know,
said Anisha, let's get your clothesout there, Like they've done the
most and they continue to do themost for me. The way the fashion
industry is going, I'm can youhear me? Yeah, I'm just very
happy that things are just coming tolight. And it's important because I didn't

(54:00):
have those experience, but we allknow that those experiences exist, and I'm
just glad we live in a societynow where we have what we call social
citizenship and we put people on Blast. We don't have to be afraid to
call people out on social media.And there's a difference between calling things out

(54:21):
in support of what's right versus beinga troll or something like And that's the
beauty of social media, like youcan use it for the good. And
I think that's one example of howsocial media is amazing because now with TikTok,
Instagram, the reels, everything,Facebook, you can't hide if you
wrong someone, they're going to goon with a user name. They don't

(54:44):
have to worry about being attacked maybelike in the nineties and the two thousands,
like how did you share your storywithout hiding your identity? Like now
we can do that. And soif fashion brands are doing inappropriate things,
they're going to get called out.And so I'm very happy with what's going
on and that it's coming to lightand it's been going on. I love

(55:07):
that. Make sure you guys checkout shop currently dot com because I know
I'm going to retail therapy. Also, one thing you can clarify about yourself
that you want to clarify to theaudience about season three. For you,
I'm the most chill person on FamilyKarma and according to the bravocn Family Karma

(55:30):
Panel. My friends, they askedthem, you know, like superlative,
like who's the most So they're like, who's the most fun? And everyone
said me, I love that.And so I think as intense as I
may seem, I'm actually a verylow key, chill person. I love
it. Yeah, I could tell. We got to hang out when you're

(55:51):
back in New York. Speaking ofNew York, what's one place that you
would suggest a chanel in the cityaudience to go to for food, restaurant
or somewhere where you just like toescape get positive energy. And so a
place in Miami too, one breach. Okay, So in New York,
I was just there. I loveKaytown. It's you know, under the

(56:12):
radar, and you have delicious food, you can have a good time.
You can sing karaoke, or youcan go to a Korean rave and and
I love that they're open late andI feel safe when I'm there, you
know, and it's just a goodtime. I love Kaytown any time of
day and all year round. Lovethat. And then and in Miami,

(56:37):
I just love the design district.You can be amongst all the bougie things
like rolls, Royces and Chanelle andPerkins and you could still have a delicious
sandwich or meal for like twenty bucksand be in like the Miami of it
all. Yeah, totally, Ilove that. I actually my family moved

(56:59):
to Miami, so I gotta hityou guys up when I'm wow yeah waiting.
So I love Miami. We always, you know, do something in
New Year's um. But yes,Anisha, thank you so much for doing
this. You're amazing. Where caneverybody follow you? So? My Instagram
is a nish Rama Krishna. It'sa mouthful but not as hard as it
sounds. And my TikTok is atAnisha Rama Krishna, and you know I'm

(57:21):
spilling the chai and spearing garbage allthe time. I love it. You
are amazing, You're fresh at breaththere, You're beautiful. We love you.
Thank you. Into Family Karma Sundaynights, nine pm. Hey guys,
it's me Anisha Rama Krishna from BravoTV's Family Karma. I'm on Chanel
in the city and catch me withmy girl, Chanel Omari