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Hey, everyone, Welcome back toanother episode of Chanel in the City.
I'm your host, Chanel A.Mari and I have a very special guest
here today. He's a dear friend. He is hilarious. He's a stand
up comedian, and he has oneof the most popular awesome podcasts out there
with his dear friend Ryan Long,who's an awesome comedian as well. It's
called Boys Cast. Check it out. He's in the studio today at Gotham
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Podcast on Channel in the City.This is a big honor. He also
hosts Bathhouse. He's going to getinto a lot of this stuff. Sure,
sure, And I love your sketches, I love everything. Please help
me welcome my friend. And he'salso Jewish. I mean, I have
to say it, that's a bigdeal. He's helping the Jews out.
I'm helping the Jews out. Ithink I heard her heart the Jews more
than I'm helping. You're doing amitzvo for me. I've had a lot
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of people being like, you're notdoing us any favors with the stuff you're
doing. We're gonna we'll get intothat because you know I've been through that
too. Please help us. WelcomeDanny Paul chat Hello, how's it going,
and anouncing her Polish. It's ait's Polish, is it? No,
it's Russian? Russian. I lovethat Russian Jew. I I grew
up with a lot of Russian Jews. Yeah, I know how to say
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called delay. Do you know Russian? I understand it a little bit,
but I can't speak up. Butmy parents are from there. But that's
awesome. I don't I should knowmore, but I just never Yeah.
And but you're originally from Canada.I'm from Canada. That's pretty cool.
Toronto where Drake and Justin Beavers from. Lots lots lots of famous Canadians.
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The Weekend, right, a lotof people. Man, Yeah, I
remember when, like when I startedcomedy in the weekend, was just like
a local Toronto guy. Oh that'sso cool for real? So you were
doing so you were doing comedy forso many years in Toronto. Yeah.
Yeah, but like when I started, and like probably I started in two
thousand and nine, but like Iremember, in like two thousand and ten,
people are like, you heard ofthis guy at the weekend and like
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he was just like a local.It's crazy, isn't that crazy? Did
you ever think he was going toblow up where you were like kind of
not caring because I'm like I neverwas. I like my friends who were
more into that stuff, where likethis guy's like gonna be serious. I
mean I remember when like Drake becamesuper famous too, because I have a
lot of friends who are actors whoare like on Degrassi and stuffy, like
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on the show Degrassi, so theylike, yeah, really yeah. I'm
like, so a friend of mine, Michelle Shaughnessy, she's a comedian,
and then she started she's not marriedto Snake. Holy shit. Yeah,
So anyways, but like I likethat was the biggest show when I was
a kid, yea Degrassi And thenI just remember like when I'm doing comedy
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and started just she'd be like we'dbe doing some like shitty show and he'd
just be like tagging along, andI'm just like, holy shit, Snake,
that's so cool. That's really cool. Damn. You have like a
lot of history around you. Wellit's like, well in you know,
in Canadian show business is not nota ton going on. So I was
gonna ask you, so, likeNew York, we're in the mecca,
right, stand up comedy, entertainment, acting, whatever you do, singing,
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it's really cutthroat. I mean,it's different than Canada, Like how
would you say, You's just likein Canada, you don't like the best
way to put it is, inCanada, when you're doing comedy there,
nobody you're associating with is like reallyparticularly popping off. You know, like
nobody's like, oh my god,Like that person's like sells out theaters.
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Everybody's like the ceiling is very low, right, Like no, you're never
at some random show and you're like, holy shit, this guy's like sells
out theaters. And it's just likedoing this show that's like doesn't happen in
Canada, Whereas here that's very common. Like you know, here you could
be doing comedy here for a fewyears and you're like, yeah, I
know many people who are like wildlysuccessful. Yeah, that's not the case
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in Canada. Honestly, I thinkI would strive more than there because for
me in general, I don't knowif you've but it changed a lot since
since TikTok and Reels and stuff hasactually changed the landscape a lot, which
is uh, you know, it'sonly been maybe a couple of years.
So yeah, like and I've beengone from there for long ago. So
I do actually have some friends wholike I have my friend Chade Arena and
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Nieman Zarri and a few other peoplewho like, you know, they became
really popular on um. You knowthey live well change has moved here.
But like my friend Nimo, likehe lives in Toronto, and he became
so popular online that like he cando shows in the States and like sell
tickets and stuff. So right,whereas that was unheard of two years ago,
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Like, well, how do youfeel about that? Because you know,
with us being doing stand up comedyhere in New York, you know,
there's also like a stigma. Yougotta get the stage every day,
you got to hit the hot clubsin order to be respected. And then
there are TikTokers. I mean Idon't mind, I mean respected by who.
That's a great rhetorical ques. Idon't know. I feel like it's
high school sometimes, where like othercomics are like that person has to accept
you or that person has to vouchfor you. But I mean it's now
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it's straight up just like you youknow, there's I know many people who
are not in the New York comedyscene or the LA comedy scene who sell
insane numbers of tickets really like,yeah, yeah, you don't need to
be like to sell tickets now,which is essentially the name of the game,
like for comedy, Like that's whyyou do it, is just go
on the road and sell tickets.Why you do it? But it's like
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that is the business of comedy isselling tickets. And I know a lot
of people who are neither based inLA nor New York who sell crazy amounts
of tickets. So and that's maybea you know, a fairly recent phenomenon,
but that's currently how it is.So it's like you don't need to
be here. But if you wantto get a ton of stage time,
like you know, you're you're notgoing to get that same same amount of
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stage time like in other cities unlessyou're you know, in Austin and you're
one of like those top ten guysor something, right for the most part,
but otherwise you know it'll be tough. So for a lot of state,
you can get a lot of stagetime in New York for sure,
if you're in a certain it justdoesn't mean right that it's what are the
goals. What is everyone's goal?What is their success? Success to them?
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And comedy? Yeah, I meanI guess if New York's like also
people have different things like if youwant to get but it's I don't even
know if it really exists anymore.Like, sure you can get it.
You know, you can do alot of sets and maybe get on Saturday
at Live if that's what you're goingfor. Is that right? I don't
feel like that happens only because Marcello. But did he submit his tape?
Though he submitted a tape, hestill submits his tape. Yeah, and
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you know many other people are todo the same thing, like people submit
their tapes not from New York.But I mean I guess you can kind
of like if you're in the mixhere, I guess you can do that.
But at the end of the day, you can just like you could
have ten super viral reels and sellout clubs across like right, you know
the country, like pretty quickly whenyou came to New York? Was it
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easy hard for you? Like?How did you It was a pain?
It's really hard, Like to gofrom to move to New York, to
move to America is hard it's notNew York. It's right. It's like
to get into America, you gottaget a visa and it's like it's a
whole process and you have to likeyou know, not anybody can get it.
Like it's it's uh, the wayit's set up is just like it's
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difficult. Yeah, but but Imean it can be done, but you
have to have like a bunch oflike credits and all the stuff and like.
And then also when you moved toNew York from Toronto, like you
start over like I didn't know anybodyhere, right, so how did you
cope? Like what did you doin order? Just started hanging out our
comedy clubs basically and just meeting people. But like you're starting like all over
again, like nobody knows who youare, Like you just kind of start
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all over again and just do it. I don't know, I mean I
knew that's what it was going tobe like. So, which is pretty
impressive because you have a very popularpodcast and your clips also go viral with
well, but we didn't like whatyou didn't. Yeah, Like when I
moved here, like I had,you know, I had some like online
notoriety, I guess from back inCanada or whatever. But for the most
part, like we didn't have ourpodcast. We had a different podcast which
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we stopped doing and then, butwe didn't have any of that stuff.
We had a bunch of sketches wehad made it in Canada, but nobody
cared because it was in Canada.Oh so you were you and Ryan were
friends in Canada. Yeah. Yeah, we've known each other for a long
time, like like probably since twothousand and ten or something. That's nice
though to have somebody. Yeah,we were like we've like like we've said
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it, like like we were like, you know, pretty much are I
was Ryan's like first comedy friend andwe're like still friends, like you know,
and that's working together, like likewe clicked immediately that Yeah, what
made you guys? So I guesswhat inspired this podcast? And like how
did you get to this level ofsuccess? Is this like a normal thing
for people because I think your pastand they're like, oh, we want
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a podcast like that. But Idon't think people understand it takes a lot
of work. Yeah, it takesa lot of work. I mean we
you know, we had a podcastbefore before the Boys cast, which it
was called Fucking Omics. So wedid in Canada for like five years,
and you know, it did okay, but it was nothing like overly successful.
And then we just the I thinkthe format of it wasn't um wasn't
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that great. So and you know, I think a lot had to do
like Ryan was doing The Boys Castactually without me. It was like he
was doing a solo podcast, theBoys Cast, and that took off like
a little and I was doing adifferent solo podcast, excuse me. And
then we were in Miami together inlike twenty twenty one, like the beginning
of twenty twenty one. We wentdown there to work on this movie and
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or to write write one anyways,and we were both doing our solo podcasts,
and then he kind of was justlike, we should just do one
crossover episode because it's just like doinga solo podcast sucks, Like it's just
like it's way harder to do thana podcast with someone else, yeah,
like because you know, you're responsiblefor all the error time essentially. So
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we just did it and people likedit, and we're like, you know,
we should just like we were bothkind of overdoing the solo podcasts,
but because of COVID, like itwas easy to do. You know,
like the one good thing about oursolo podcast is there's no coordination. You
do it whenever you want and that'sit. And anyways, it was like
we just did it and then wewere just like, you know what we
should just and you know, weobviously worked well together because we had done
a podcast for five years. That'samazing. Love that. Yeah, yeah,
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So what do you think is thesecret to, like, I guess,
being a successful podcaster? Fuck ifI know, I honestly, there's
it's very much like comedy, there'sno single way to do it. Like
people, if you go ask acomedian, like a successful comedian, how
did you become successful? You willget a different answer from pretty much every
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single person. Like there's no oneway. I mean, I would say
the best way to do it isI mean, the best way to do
it is having an interesting show thatlike the content is good, Like you're
putting out something unique and you know, like you're providing some sort of like
interesting content that's obviously before anything.But that's not necessarily even enough. But
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that's the starting point. And thenI guess now would be leveraging all the
shorts reels TikTok and then putting outthose those because like you know, you
can and we have like you know, you can easily put out a short
and like it can get two hundredthousand views on it, Like that's not
crazy at all for anybody, Likeanybody could do that. You don't need
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a lot of followers anywhere. Youcan just do that if you have an
interesting whatever clip, like you cando that and like tomorrow now again,
two hundred thousand viewers might get youfive people who actually listen to your podcast.
But you can just keep doing thatand you know, eventually reach a
point of scale where like you geta lot more people. But do you
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think consistency, Oh for sure itdoes help, yeah, Or do you
think you can be able to dokind of what you want when you want
or that doesn't I mean if you'refamous, if you're famous, yeah,
if you're already famous, you cando whatever you want for a podcast.
People will you know, like theKnelk Boys, I don't know if you
know, like you know, theyput out a podcast kind of whatever they
want right right right, or likeBethanny Frankel, I love her too,
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but she'll not she'll do she'll beconsistent or some of the housewise, but
sometimes they can't and it's okay,like yeah, yeah, like they're the
audience is waiting for you to putout a show where and when you start.
That's not how it is, souh yeah, you gotta be consistent.
You gotta have good clips. ButI mean pre like the reels and
stuff, like, I mean itwas I don't know how people, to
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be honest, I don't know howreally people became popular. YouTube's a good
one. Like YouTube has a likea podcast tab. Now I always say
press too. I don't know Icome from the press era, but I
press for sure. Like I alwaysjust think about the podcast that I listen
to. Yeah, I always tryand think of like how did I find
out about this podcast? And it'salways something different. Sometimes it's I heard
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a lot of times as you hearabout it on another podcast. Right,
that's a big one. So whichfalls under press like doing other podcasts?
Is press? Right at this point? Um, you know you can obviously
if you're like you have some bignetwork that works with you that wants to
you know, will promote you andstuff like that. But it's honestly,
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there isn't a way. Yeah,I like that you're saying that because it
I know a lot of people askme too, it's like how did you
do this? How did you getthat? And it's it's not there's no
rhyme or reason. It's kind oflike you gotta go with your own gut.
You gotta do your own thing.Even with jokes, it's kind of
like, well you A lot oftimes comments will be like, you can't
do this, you can't do that, and to me, there's no,
you can't. It's more like whatis authentic to you? Yeah, you
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can do whatever you want. There'swhatever you want. Nobody's stopping you from
right, Yeah, yeah, nobody'sstopping you from doing anything you want,
like comedy wise or podcast like,I mean there's podcasts that are out there
that sure they say wild Chap,I like there's I sometimes will go on
this website Kick, which is likeTwitch is like a Twitch clone, but
like there's they have some stuff therethat like you're not allowed to have on
Twitch or whatever, and you cansort by they're all live streams, but
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you can sort by like lowest tohighest, which you can't do on Twitch.
So you can just see all thesepeople who are streaming with zero people
watching, that's awesome. The onlyperson watching with some person streaming, that
is awesome. There's so there's amillion of them. Wow, I'm just
people who are just like literally nobody'swatching, and I'm just on Instagram,
like obsessing over Instagram when there's allthese I mean, well there's a million
other platforms, but I'm saying,like the amount of people who are just
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like yeah, they're not putting outanything very entertaining and there's zero people watching.
Well, what entertains you? Youwould say, like for you,
like, what's something interesting that youwould share with us or that we should
be paid? Interesting? Up?I mean, I like I list into
the just kind of all over thestuff I've been getting really into like history
podcasts, but like the show.I do this call in show on Tuesday
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who well that's I was gonna say, nobody's really doing that, like where
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you can go on the guest ona podcast live. No, I don't
think so. But uh and Ibring on, like I have these interests
like my guests tonight. I don'tknow when this comes out, but tonight
from when we're recording. As thisguy Nick Bryant, who he released Jeffrey
Epstein's Black Book, Like, he'sthe guy who like released Jeffrey Epstein's Black
Book and he wrote this book calledThe Franklin Scandal. So it's like it's
not a comedy podcast, but that'sreally interesting. I'm so. I just
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I don't know if you saw thedocumentaries of Jeffrey Epstein on Netflix, and
I'm like obsessed with like every version. Yeah, this guy was the guy
who like and he's like he wastrying to pitch like all these news sites
forever to release this and they werelike we don't want like he was he's
he had been on Jeffrey Epstein sincetwenty twelve, trying to release all this
stuff and like nobody would believe us. Yeah, they were just like they
weren't interested in it. Well that'sthe thing also power and money. But
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I don't think a lot of peopleunderstand is that that's what hides a lot
of Well it's like you know,if you go if you go to some
press outlet, then they go,hey, I want to bust open the
news on Jeffrey Epstein and they're like, that's my friend, right, They're
like, yeah, I don't thinkso. I don't think it's literally my
friend. Like imagine someone came upto like you or Ryan. They you
guys would have each other's back atpoint. Come on, I mean,
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I don't know if Ryan ends up. If Ryan is would the sex traffickers
of child sex traffickers of all time? Would I be like to the extent
where I'm like, Ryan is afucking island. I don't. Maybe at
some point my loyalties would, right, right, But yeah, but for
the most part, but your friends, that's literally like people are like,
yo, this guy's like the worstchild sex traffickers, and people are like,
this my friend. Just the wayyou're saying it is, that's how
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hilarious because it's like, well,that's my friend. So there's nothing I
kids said. It is what itis. That's why nobody would would give
them any Like That's why I wassigning for so long. For so long,
Yeah, because people were just like, has my buddy, Like I
don't want to and he probably givesme tons of money and I get I
get to go to fun Island andright on his private jets and his parties.
You ever go by his his place, No, I probably would be
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Thank god. I I probably wouldhave been one of those who like,
I mean, it's just didn't evenknow because it uh is it big?
But I saw it? But yeah, he has like a crazy like you
know, forty million dollars Brownstone likeon like I want to say seventy something
like right by Central by you cangoogle it like that. I've just walked
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by it just to see it.And how did it feel to walk by
it? Like was this looks likeI'm a nice house. It's I mean,
honestly, my thing, did youget goosebumps? Like just like weird.
No, But my thing is literally, like you walk by, you're
like, I can't leave somebody's fuckinghouse because normally it's like in New York
that's an apartment building. Yeah,like nobody apartment building, you know,
that's somebody's house here. Yeah,that's crazy. But you know with that
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situation though, I mean to bringit back to comedy in general, Um,
it is like I feel like there'sa lot of like people who are
you know, not jealous or competitive, but they'll say like this person does
this or this person and that.What's your advice? I guess to people
to keep their head in the gameand just focus on their art, you
know, without like the yea andshe said, I don't know, like
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for comedy wise like or whatever.Like now there's so many outlets like you
don't need anybody. I love thatyou're saying this right now because it's an
enspinment. You don't need anybody.No, now you're you're especially I mean,
like for stand up, you doneed to be able to go get
stage time, but like you don'tneed to be in the seller like you
can go do you know, abar show or whatever, Like you just
need to work on your jokes andthen like you can find an audience online
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essentially that will come see you inperson, and then all you need to
do is just work on your act, which like whatever, you can do
that in a million different places.So it's not about like right, obsessing
over the gate keepers and like papershave lost their power, like the gatekeeper.
Yeah, but like passing a club, let's say, it's always like
they feel like you are either worthit or not. But now that we
have the online players, but there'slots of people, like you know,
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there's so many now, like hugetouring acts who are like not pass the
clubs. So true, like MattRife, Yeah, like I mean,
I mean Matt Rife or whatever.But like Troy Bond, I don't know
if you know him, Yeah,he probably sells out like literally literally right,
like every show on a weekend andlike any improv in America. And
you're like, I think he onlyworks at Broadway Coming Club, you know,
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so it really not considered how likeyou know, one of the top
clubs. Far from it, butit does perform their yees today. But
whatever, It's like, but Iget what you're saying, No, what
I get what you're saying no,it's true though, like it's not about
every club wants to think that they'relike top tier and then they want to
make you feel like you have tobe good enough. But you don't have
to be passed at a club.I mean, all that gives you is
just something to do on the weekend, like right, like some you know,
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some whatever you can do comedy onthe weekend. Like not even that,
because there's many places you can docomedy on the weekend in New York
City. But yeah, sure youcan do at one of these clubs,
but doesn't do anything for you.It doesn't know, it's not gonna make
you faint. Like a lot ofpeople come to me, Hey, if
I do the clubs, do youthink I'm gonna get on TV? Really
know? But like people you've neverheard of work of the seller? So
many yeah, so many, AndI'm like, why aren't they on TV?
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Because who wants to put I don'tknow, because TV is like dead.
I know, I know, it'slike there's a strike and they're not
even a strike. I'd rather literallywant be on Twitter than watch of the
stuff that's on television. Well that'swhat's happening now. That's why. Yeah,
that's yeah. Like the thing iswith this writer's TV strike, like
it's gonna go on really long.Tell yeah, because a lot of the
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companies who are like like these youknow networks or whatever, like they are
barely making money or some of themare losing money because they spend as much
on content as they bring in.Yeah. Right, so they're like,
we're not making money. They're like, we have been locked in this system
that has been bad for us,and you know, so I think they're
going to let it drag on becausethey've just been like, you know what,
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we need less of this, Weneed less content. Uh, they're
paying too much or content And everybody'slike, oh, with their ceo makes
like so much money, but you'relike even still like their their business models
besides the ceo stuff is like they'rejust not not great business models currently,
you know, besides Netflix, LikeNetflix is the only one who has like
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a better business model. But likeevery streamer is like, you know,
I think I saw um. Idon't know if it's paramount or like one
of those big streamers is like theylose money. Like everybody's like, oh,
we like the writers and actors,like we want more money. They're
like, we don't make money.So here, I'm happy you said that,
okay, And that's what I've beenalso explaining to people in general.
When you don't make money, it'svery hard to put out extra money,
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even if you think that person's worthit or that actor deserves a promo.
It's like, if you're not makingmoney, they don't. You know,
a few of their shows make themoney and most of them lose the money.
And that's just how movies work too, and whatever. It doesn't seem
like the public understands that though thatmuch, right, it doesn't matter what
the public understands. It's like thisis a union negotiating and they'll figure it
out. But in the meantime,Like nope, Like I mean again,
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I don't, I don't. Idon't have any like allegiance to shows,
so like this does not affect me, Like I'm not, I'm not missing
any of my favorite shows. I'mmost I mostly watched stuff on YouTube,
or like I do watch some TV, I mostly watched sports and stuff on
YouTube. So and honestly, thequality of the stuff on YouTube now is
better than most TV shows anyways,for not dramatic stuff like for like educational
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whatever. So I'm like, I'mnot really missing out or anything. And
also like, you're right, thesocial media is what people are really engaging.
I mean, you can literally puta story of what you did in
a day in a life and they'drather watch that, you know, than
something else. And then a series, you know, I mean I love
scripted series, I love movies.I've grown up on it. But you
know, that's why reality TV isdoing a lot. I mean that reality
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like reality TV took off, andthen that's what social media is. It's
just reality TV and just and notproduced just like hey, free for all.
Everybody's acting like kind of what theywant. Yeah, pretty much.
So I don't know. I don'tknow. I think the strike world Dragon
it doesn't affect me personally. I'mnot in that system at all. So
do you agree with the act thatyou know? I mean, I would
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side with the actors because that's howI'm more identify myself from like studio.
But I mean again, I'm like, I'm not I'm not in any of
those unions. I'm not, likeI like, I'm a lot of comedy
now operates in this like shadow uhindustry essentially which is very large. It's
become very large where you know,like podcasts and all that stuff where you're
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like, we're not in the system, so it doesn't really it doesn't affect
it. You know, I'm notI'm not trying to be a writer on
like Seth Meyers or some shit,nor would they ever allow me to do
that. So why how do youknow? Um, if you try,
I mean, if they watched mypodcast, they would pretty instantly be like
yeah, not for us. Wellthat was ann was an asking with your
podcasts, I mean, what iswhat would you say? Boys? Cast
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is all about? You know,and what's it all about? Would just
talk about like current events and stuff, and like it's like a lot of
uh podcast I just think we're alot funnier and we do like some sketches
and stuff, but it's just likeit's a comedy podcast. Yeah, your
sketches are really funny. Yeah,we just do a comedy podcasts and yeah,
it's uh, we just talk mostlyabout for the most well actually know
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we talked some curve events and thenwe'll find some just like weird stuff on
the internet that's fun. Yeah,just make fun of it. Did you
ever want to act or yeah.I mean I obviously in sketches. But
when I was in Canada, I, uh, I was in this movie
we wrote and I was one ofthe actors in this movie. But do
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you remember the mayor Rob Ford,the guy to smoke crack, yeah or
whatever. We like made a movieabout him called Filth City. Oh that's
it's on t B right now.I love to be subscription. I'll watch
it's it's and uh but I actedin that and it's like it's a comedy
slash like action movie kind of orwhatever. And then uh, I did
some acting. Yeah, like tI did it. I was in like
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a couple of TV things like andI used to audition a lot for a
lot of shows. That's cool.Didn't get any Well, that's the I
know. That's the hard part ofauditioning is like you keep having to do
it and still be you have toalso accept the rejection and not get it.
Yeah, And it's so much workbecause you're taping yourself, you're going
auditions, you're going on calls.Yeah, And I mean whatever that's what
you're into. You want to bean actor, go for it. I
never wanted to be an actor.That was just right, I was doing
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comedy. I wanted to be awriter, and I want to be a
comedian. And then, you know, I never thought of podcasting when I
was starting, Like it didn't evenexist really, and uh but podcasting is
just doing a radio show basically,But I never thought of doing any of
that. Acting with people are justlike, hey, you know, like
you can go for commercials when you'rea comedian. It's an easier transition.
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I think, Well, it's justlike they're just like, yeah, exactly,
You're like you're comfortable in front ofa thing. And then they're just
like, hey, you can makesome money here and there if you just
go do these commercial auditions and yeah, so what made you want to become
a comedian? Oh? I justalways always wanted to. I always love
love comedy. Yeah, any likefavorites growing up that you want? I
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mean I saw my first comedy memoryis probably like Eddie Murphy Delirious when I
was probably six, which I don'tknow who I was. I know my
let a six year old watch thatship, but I probably watched that when
I was like well, because Ihad older brothers, so my older brother
watched it when he was like tenor it sounds like me when I grew
up like my bears, I literallywatched like Married with Children when I was
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nine, but I would sneak itor nine No, no, my parents
like, let me watch Marry withthe Children. Oh really they wouldn't.
They would let me. And thenmy mom be like, you know what,
this is not okay for you?Your nine years old? The camp
and it was just crazy. I'mlike, this is not even that bad.
Yeah, I mean married Children Andyou ever watched clips and Married with
Children right now? You're right,yeah, when you look back, that's
kind of it's I mean, Ifollow this account on Instagram the posts married
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with Children clips. Oh that's fun. It's insane, right, he's really
boycott of the network if they triedto, Like I think for a while
that if Fox had balls, theywould put it back on the air,
Mary like a redo it. Butlike they're just you can't watch reruns now,
well they you have to make anew like reruns are different, Like
they'd have to do a modern versionof it, you know, but called
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Mary with Children. But like theywould never do that, no, because
it's like I mean, they woulddo it and it would be a woman
and like it would be all reversedand it would be garbage. Right even
nine twenty when they revamped it,I feel like there was a lot of
backlash around it. It wasn't evenas bad as the one back then when
we grew up on it. Yeah, I watched it a little. I
wasn't huge. I always watched comedylike I was. I remember watching like
N two one. I never watchedmelrose Place or anything, but I do
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remember watching Eddie but Eddie Murphy thatalso, like I grew up on Eddie
Murphy that he was the biggest.But I was never into like some people
were, you know, we're intolike Bill Cosby and stuff. I was
never. I was never really likeI was just never into rape. No,
I'm kidding, I'm good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, any other
favorites. I watched a lot ofSaturday Live, Like, yeah, SETV
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that's me too. That's kind ofwhen when I wanted in the Hall in
Canada, those are like because thoseare Canadian shows, Okay, Kids in
the Hall of CTV. So Kidsin the Hall was on like all the
time, and that's where like likeI love this, Yeah, I mean
it's one of the best shows ever. I feel like I heard of that
show. It's a sketch comedy show. It's with like um Scott Thompson and
uh Dave Foley and okay, anyanyways, that's awesome. Yeah. I
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love your like just having the factthat you have an open mind about comedy
and entertainment in general. You know, I mean, I guess what's your
choice? You're like, bitch,I am as stuck well because sometimes I
think a lot of us let itget to us like we're not achieving a
goal, or we're not hitting thestage many stages, or we're not um
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getting viral on social media. Somaybe like maybe a tip you can share
with you on ant, like whatto do to just focus on you?
You can, I always tell mymy fans, like you have to focus
on I mean, you gotta see, like you know, what the thing
is that you're singularly good at,but also like you can just you gotta
try lots of different stuff. Idon't know, there's you know, like
especially with the you know, allthe reels and all that stuff. Is
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like you know, if you're postingabout your stuff and it's not working,
and then stop posting that and trysomething else, right, you know,
and like there's some you know youcan there's high production things you can do,
there's low production things you can do. Sometimes the low production things do
better than the high product I mean, like my friend Jay Drena, and
he literally became famous from laying inhis bed and he just like caught.
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He just does these green screen videosof him laying in his bed just looking
at like hot chicks working out right, and he just comments on them and
they're funny and they like catch youreye because it's like some it's already like
some hot chick doing something crazy right, and he's like famous. He like
sells like clubs all over America fromjust like literally content he made on his
phone in his bed. Or youcan dig the opposite route and you can
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go like rent a fucking studio andcan I swear of course whatever, but
like you can rent a studio orwhatever and like get a camera crew.
Would spend five thousand dollars on thisHiCon concept thing that like nobody will watch
or maybe you will a lot ofpeople watch it. I don't know.
But there's just like there's uh,there's no rules, and you know,
you can do anything on any budget, and like you know, there's there's
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currently with the way that you know, and it might not be this way
forever with like the discoverability stuff,but it currently is like that, and
you know, I would just trydifferent things. Okay. Also, what's
your opinion on you know, inthe industry, right they say they call
it a cutthroat industry for a reason. Yeah, when there's like other people
not necessarily comedians or like it iswhen they bully you, you know,
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I don't. I don't know ifyou've experienced bullying. A lot of sometimes
female comics experience, I think,yeah, I think it's a woman.
I don't know, man's got nobecause Mary's gonna be like knock you.
I don't care. I think it'sjust like comedy is by nature, just
like a bunch of people, likeyou know, if you're hanging out with
a general comics, like we're allbreaking each other's balls like to that degree.
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I don't know what you're getting at. Like, but like, you
know, I there is some bullyingthat I see, like generally, but
it's not it's never like really superserious. I don't know. I don't
really have a take on that otherthan like I would just not hang out
with people who are right in generallyor just I mean it's like New York
City, this is the biggest comedyscene in the world. That's what it
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is. If someone's a bully,you're like, you can very easily avoid
them. That's good advice. Thoughyeah, I can sometimes get stuck like,
oh well, what if they becauselike again, it's like the in
crowd. I always call like somecomedy clicks like the in crowd where if
you're not with people validating you sometimeslike the clubs won't book you. But
like you said, you really gavea great observation today. It's like okay,
so then you do a bar show, so then you put it on
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something. But again it's like youdon't need them. Like one, you
don't need the clubs. It's likethe landscape is totally different than it used
to be, Like you don't needthe clubs. They're not going to do
anything for you. Like even ifin your dream scenario you're like, what,
go work at the seller ten timesa week, Like it's not gonna
like you'll give you stage time,it's not gonna make you anything. Like
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it's now it's like the best wayto get into the seller is by popping
off online and then go to themand they'll be like okay, right,
Like that's the way to get intoclubs now. Is not like having them
hand pick you. It's just like, hey, I'm popular on Instagram,
right, and then even if you'renot that good. No, I'm not
saying that about you, but I'mjust saying periods general. In general,
it's like, you don't even haveto be that good at comedy, but
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as long as you're popular online,they'll be like, all right, well
we'll take a shot, right,Like That's what I was trying to Like,
a lot of comics will be likewhy are these I'll see a lot
of the same comics being booked,but they don't have fame or they're not
you know, they don't have TikTokviews or yeah, so I guess the
question is I mean you might,I mean why are they getting invested in
it? Is it because they're funny? A million reasons, like the booker.
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You know, there's various bookers ordifferent clubs, and I don't know
they like those people for whatever reasonor whatever reason. It's not about funny
or not just is you might justbe a likable person too. Yea,
to that person, they find thatyou're funny. You are you know,
you're you've cultivated a relationship with thatwe're not. I mean, I don't
know it's sellable. Like most ofthe clubs in New York City, like
you know, they'll sell some ticketsbased off of like famous people, I'm
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sure, but for the most part, you're like, I don't know,
not really, like they just theylike those people or I don't know,
there's there's again there there's probably fiftydifferent reasons why those people could be in
there. Yeah, it's just niceto have your take on it. Yeah,
I don't know. I mean,there's there's clubs that I'm not in.
You know, there's lots of clubsthat I'm not in. How did
you feel? And so how doyou cope with that in general? Are
you like okay, Like you're likeit's fine, and it was just like,
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you know, as long as Ican get up a certain amount,
that's that's all. I'm Yeah,because that's not the game. The games
online, right, and that's whereyou have to focus on keep saying that,
like I post here online, thegame is not local anymore. Yeah,
Like like it was it's a coolthing. When I started comedy,
like you and I'm sure like thatyear or that era or whatever, like
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it was like, yeah, youdo comedy, uh, And then there
was no The only way to becomefamous was like or popular was in cell
tickets. Was like you know,you get on late night shows and blah
blah blah, and you're working withthis assiste like that doesn't exist. You're
like if if someone says like likenow, if my friends is like,
oh, I'm doing comedy on sethMeyers, like we make fun of them.
Like literally you're like, oh,cooled seers. It's like it's not
(38:15):
even cool anymore. It's like todo the Tonight Show, It's like it's
not cool. It's not it's coolto do the Boycasts literally boast I'm not
kidding serious, Like I would beon your rather than that, but like
it would do more for your career. Like like you know, I've had
friends who went literally to the TonightShow and they're like, yeah, I
have like two Twitter followers, twonew Twitter followers, right or something,
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or like you know you have tennew followers. Could because the people who
watch the Tonight Show, especially thepeople who watch this Tonight Show Live,
like that's they're from a different eraand they're not going to clubs really anymore.
And you know, like it's justit's a different type of person.
They just see you for five minutesand that's it. They're not going on
your social That was funny. Andten of them were like, wow,
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that person is so funny. Whois that? Yeah, And you're like,
okay, great, you just didthe Tonight Show and ten fucking people
know who you are now and that'sit, right, I know, they
think because it's consistency, and alsowith celebrities, because I worked with celebrities
and production and PR and these celebritiesthat got to where they got it,
they had to like do a lotof press. It wasn't just like one
time the t for sure, likeconstant, you know. Yeah, and
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again that you like there's the Internetnow, you don't need any of that.
You don't need any yeah, likewith TikTok and all that stuff,
like just go put out tons ofcontent and you know, like that's a
way better model than trying. Andagain it's just like doesn't even exist anymore,
Like there's no holding deals, LikeI don't know anybody who's become famous
from I know or not nobody,But who's become famous from like doing a
(39:44):
TV show? Right right? Idon't know, I don't even I don't
think I can name no, likemaybe no comics. I know Rommy,
but like he up there and thenthe show I think that capitalized. Yeah,
but like I have a one ofmy friends is David Hsh's on that
show. He's a comment from Toronto. I've known him for a long time,
and it's like, did that makeanything to tickets as a stand up?
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And he started he's a true standup. Now maybe he's like he's
a great actor, so maybe he'strying to focus more on that. But
you know, as a comedian,like if you're trying to be a comedian
comedian like doing you know, goingon the road and stuff like nothing beats
just YouTube and Instagram. Yeah,and also there's I think in the Eddie
Murphy days and Rodney danger Field days, there weren't a lot of comics coming
(40:29):
up, like now there's like awell, there were a lot of comics,
but there was just you only hadfive ways to be right to become
known. That's when I came likewhereas now that was like the days of
the crazy gatekeepers were like legitimately,you're like you had to, you know,
get on the Tonight Show. Likeif you didn't get on the Tonight
Show or all that stuff like thatwas it. That was it for you.
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If if five people decided they didn'tlike you, that was it.
Yeah, And I mean thank godI wasn't. I if I was going
through that error, it would bereally hard, especially for a female comments
Joan Rivers went through a lot ofhelp, of course. Yeah, and
now it's like just I don't know, there's there's a way. Now there's
I mean there's some comics who youcouldn't even believe who sell out like you
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know, clubs on weekends, whoare just like yeah, they don't focus
on that stuff. They just focuson the Internet and making stuff. What
do you say to um, comediansor just people in general that are putting
their art out there and like theyeither get public hate or like you know,
haters, negative comments. You're notfunny, this is shit, Like
do you pay attention to it?I mean, it's that's just the nature
(41:31):
of the game. It's the natureof the game. Yeah. Yeah,
so you've got to have thick skin, and you gotta expect has that happened
to you? Like fucking every day? Yeah, where people comments saying this
sucks literally every day of mind,no way, Yeah, how do you
handle it? Close your phone smart? You're right if that's all you gotta
(41:52):
do. Yeah, I don't knowwhat is this fear that I feel like
they're all gonna like attack me throughthe screen or something. But then you're
right. It's so easy to likeblock report and like block like turn your
phone off disabled comments on your thingor whatever, or don't look at the
comments. I know, it's hardnot to look at the comments. I
mean I've been like, my commentsare real bad. They're like, now
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we're Nazis. You Jewish person shouldhave Jewish people should have died in the
gas chambers, like crazy shit,I was hacking my nose. It's like
what about And then you're not funny. It's like listen to the comedy though,
and by the way, a lotof us. Yeah, if you
have people who are commenting, youknow, regardless of what they're commenting,
it still helps you in the algorithm. So it's like at least there's that
Wait, do you leave those tohelp the algorithm or if you delete them,
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Okay, you're like, bitch,I'm not a fucking it person.
I don't delete anything. No,I have like I have. You're not
even embarrassed. What if someone's likeagain, like those Jewish comments I think
are really like hurtful. I havea literal like a clip that I have
that's like currently kind of on Instagram, Like I get comments on twenty a
day probably right now on this oneclip at that I took two years.
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I did it two years ago andit was just like this. I was
just like a green screen replying tothis article about the Hill, Like the
news thing was like they said,the anti Semitic crime is like the highest
it's ever been. Yeah, thejoke is like it's the highest it's ever
been in Germany, like because ofthe Holocaust or whatever, and like look,
some of the cons people are likelaughing. Some of the people are
like getting into these whole debates aboutthe Holocaust and all this. Suff'm like,
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I don't know, go for gonuts right, like I wish I
had. I'm like, because I'mvery passionate about, well, how do
we stop anti Semitism, only becausein general, I think a lot of
people don't realize that Jewish people geta lot of hate in general, you
know. So it's fine, sobeing a Jewish comic, it just I
feel sometimes it's a little harder withthe comic. I don't think you could
handle a day in my life.I imagine we did the Freaky Friday Shiites,
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I would some of the stuff thatI've done with you would like would.
So what are the tip's mental healthwise? Because it's also turn your
fucking phone off. That's like justliterally have a life. Like we're gonna
get in most the stuff that youneed to like, you'll need to like
social media for example, like ifyou're trying to use it as a tool
to become a popular comedian, Yeah, post the thing you need to post,
(44:07):
and then fucking turn it off andthat's it. No, you don't
need to you don't need to carewhat something else you need to like check
in on, Just like post itand leave, right. I think that's
a good I'm gonna start doing that. Yeah, just post it and just
like remove the app from your phoneuntil you need to post something again.
Oh that's really smart. I don'tknow I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna
do that. I think a lotof people listening should do that because they're
always asking like now for me,like on Twitter, like I like to
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you know, getting getting in themud. So yeah, like I like
that. But you know it's notdefinitely not for everybody. But do you
react with like funny stuff or doyou react? You can never let it.
It can't be mean. I mean, you can never allow people to
like think that it's affecting you.Otherwise you lost. Yeah, especially as
a comedian, you're like true,like because you're supposed to be strang we're
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supposed to be strong. Well,you're supposed to be impartial and you know
you're supposed to Yeah, you can'tbe like emotional about anything really, so
it doesn't affect your confidence ever aboutyourself, Like you never get down on
yourself or think anything like because peopleare anti semitic on the internet, Yeah
that I fuck. No, Imean this is like that they're gonna be
that regardless of life of how youfeel. So uh no, no,
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I don't. It's almost like right, it's it's still a fringe group of
people, like you know, thisisn't the world. This is the world.
No. I love that, umspeaking of let's change gears a little
bit dating. Um, well,you're engaged and congratulating if you were there
the night that I so crazy.So we are at Bonds. I'm gonna
(45:34):
let you tell a story. We'reat Bond Street, which, um,
I uh I got there and thenI, uh yeah and anyway, specifically
pick pick Bonds because it's one ofher favorite places. No, so I
had just decided it was on Kisson Canadian it was on Canada Day,
okay, and I had a showearlier that night. And then we were
(45:54):
just like I had planned. I'mlike, I'm going to do it tonight
like I had known for you know, a couple of months or whatever.
And so I was just trying topick a pick of time and I was
like, you know what, I'mgonna do it tonight. And so she
was like, you want to gooff dinner later and I said sure,
and then I just told her topick something and that's what she picked.
That's why I mean her Bond andshe's my girl. I love, by
the way, for everyone thing.I love Bond Street Sushi. It's one
of the last amazing, amazing sushi. It's it's not even that pricey but
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I guess, like they always makeit seem like it's an exclusive, but
anybody can go and it's really nice. It's a great date night. Great.
I love that you proposed to herthere because I'm super romantic. Yeah,
yeah, well I told well,originally our seats was like out in
the middle, and I go,like, I actually said, I'm like,
hey, can you move us tothe back? Possibly right? And
it's so funny because she's my uhuh, she's just so like a jap,
(46:42):
I guess, but I love Icall her a job not stop.
But she's uh because we were inthe back. Yeah, I was like
playing and she goes, quick,I want to sit over there, and
I go, no, no,here, this is better, I'm telling
you. She goes what She's like, it looks so much funner out there?
Why are we sitting back here?And I go, no, this
is more fun here. Oh,and I'm like, we had a table
over there. I moved us hereand she's complaining. I go, no,
(47:05):
it's fine, and then she wasjust anyways, and then it was
fine and then did you get downin one unfunny No, I'm no chump.
You just can't let her have that, uh, no, no,
no, I I asked. Itold him the server or whatever. I
was like, Hey, I'm gonnapropose to my girlfriend. And then I'm
like, we're gonna order dessert,and they like wrote on the plate and
stuff and they brought it out andshe thought it was like a birthday.
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But it was nice because the roomhad cleared out because it was like closing
the end of the night, soit was like pretty like private. And
then someone who worked there, oneof the servers, was afterwards. She's
like, hey, just you know, like I filmed the whole thing and
I never asked. Amazing, that'samazing. I love your fiance. She
is so kind, so beautiful,so beautiful too, so amazing gorgeous.
(47:46):
She loves you, you love her. Yes, you're like an inspirational couple.
Yes, yeah, we get Weget along very well. And where
you like, how do you feellike? And that night, by the
way, guys, I was therewith another fellow comedian. We were eating
dinner, just chilling and having onand then we see you guys, you
tell us what happened, and thenwe all celebrated at Little Sister. There's
a hot spot. The tag group. I love the tag group. Shout
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out to the tag group. Shoutout to a little sister. By the
way, everybody always asked me,what are the hottest places in the city.
That's a gem. It is exclusive, but if you station on the
city sent you sometimes you'll get in. Yeah, but how did you feel
about that night? Did you?It was fun? Yeah? I like
that place a lot that was rightbeside our old studio, and it's funny.
I walked by there a million timesand never knew that I was in
there. Isn't that so funny?Yeah, it's like a hot spot,
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like our studio was literally like rightat like where that bill right beside the
billiard hall, like on that corner. Oh shit, that's really close.
I walked Yeah, forever, likefor two years or not for I love
that place because they always had likethe best DJs, like shout out Jessie.
The design of it is really cool. I mean, you know,
it's a lot of midles and bottles, but it's still fun. Yeah,
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it's still cool. It's funny becauseyou were like the only comic and the
other comedian. Shout out to BrianMorris. We all like when we go
not like comedians don't want to goout to those places I feel because you
know, you're going on stage.Really you're focusing on the stage. It's
like fun to have people I liketo go like end of the night.
Yeah, yeah, I care likemy girl, like my fiance, I
guess, but she's really like wego to Mirage and stuff she loves,
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like teachings. Yeah, she's like, yeah, she's in all that stuff,
so which I'm generally in the pasthave not been so I uh,
but I go and it's fun,Like I like Mirage. Marrage is cool.
How did you guys meet? Wemet at a bar. That's a
good place to meet people, fashionedway Shades of Green. Shades of Green.
(49:34):
All right, you were talking aboutit that night. Yeah, yeah,
that's where we met. That Likeyou were like, I didn't.
Actually she was on a date.Okay, I had a girlfriend. Okay
at the time, I just movedfrom Canada and we were just like after
the stand because I was when Imoved to New York, I was just
going to the stand all the time, and so after the show we just
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went to, uh, everybody's like, we're going to Shades of Green stands
closing and then there and she wason a date with some random guy and
then I don't I think I waswearing a grateful Dead hat and so somehow
we started talking and then, uh, we just talked for like I don't
know, maybe twenty minutes or something, and her the guy she was with
us like buying everybody drinks. Iwas, I was probably pretty hammered.
(50:15):
And then I don't know, she'sjust I think she followed me on Instagram
or something. And then I think, like after the pandemic or like through
you know, in the summer oftwenty twenty, like I we were both
single and we just went on adate. Wow, and then it was
history from there. How long haveyou guys been together for? We went
on our first date? I thinkI want to say it might be three
(50:38):
years ago. Actually today, Ithink she went and dug it up at
the anniversary July eighteenth, Yeah,today, Happy anniversary Rose. Yeah,
because she went and found it.Yeah, I think I love that.
What would you say the secret isto like a relationship like yours, you
guys really community. I mean,I don't know, never give an inch,
(51:00):
I should never never got from tellthem no. Yeah, no,
I don't know. I don't know, do you feel like I don't feel
like someone. I don't feel likesomeone who's recently engaged should be giving relationship
tips. I'm like almost forty andI'm just first time engaged, so I
(51:21):
don't know about that, but Idon't know, or just dating in New
York City, Like what do youthink? I never really dated and that's
the thing, right, New YorkCity for like a few months and then
and then the pandemic happened because Ihad a girlfriend, and then then then
the pandemic hit and uh yeah,I like honestly dated here for three months.
Maybe. Woh, yeah, that'slucky. It's tough out there.
(51:45):
Yeah, it's not easy to date, yeah, because I think that in
New York everyone's always looking for thenext best thing or they think there's the
next, you know, next bestthing. So the communication and then yeah,
I mean, I mean I'm single. I mean, if you have
any friends, let me know.You probably know them. I know they
probably don't like me anyway, butyou probably know them. Yeah, I
(52:06):
probably know them. But that's anotherthing. I mean, do you what
do you think about the comics datingother comics in this industry? You do
think it's too don't I don't thinkyou should date a co worker. I
like that. I mean I don't. I don't. I don't think me
too taught people anything. I justguy, I don't think so. I
don't like if you learn one sowomen because we go for we you know,
(52:28):
I mean that's natural to go afterpeople you're with all the time,
like in any Yeah, but ifmen learn anything from the me two eras,
don't shit where you're like, don'tdate co workers, especially anyone who
are like position of power differential,but period, Like I do you know
any comics I knew whose lives wereliterally ruined because they like hooked up with
(52:51):
someone who was like an open micerand they were like not even though that
they were basically an open micer.And like I know, I don't know
if here, but in Canada,I know literally like several guys whose lives
were ruined over nothing, like justbecause like some girl, some jilted girl
was like, yeah, I wasan open micro and he was like a
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feature act in Canada, Like theguy made five thousand dollars a year doing
comedy and in her mind that wassome big power dynamic power differential and they're
just like yeah, fuck him tossinginto the trash Like that's not cool either,
Yeah, it's not and like whatever, it's just like if you learn
anything, there's plenty of people youdon't need to I'm agree with that.
(53:35):
And by the way, moving forwardto for me too, Like, like
you said, it's easier to wrapyourself into that, but I am like
anywhere you work, like this isnot common rights not exactly done. I
mean there's no not even comedy wise, there's no shortage of guys who just
like you know, had their wholelives ruined because they just had to go
(53:57):
sleep with someone they work with.Right. I agree with you. I
think that's the best advice. Youreally just just stay out of it.
Nobody got me too from some likenot me Too, because obviously there was
a me too where like there wasreally like criminal stuff and really bad behavior,
right, but there was a lotof guys were just like, yeah,
he's like he kind of like madean you know, it was like
a little too like whatever, likeflirty at work and I was a PA
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and he was like the host ofthe show or something, and just like
that power dynamic was and you're justlike yeah, just like don't do that
shit like one hundred percent both ofyou a man or you're a woman,
just ye, just don't get insolved. But mostly if you're a man.
But right, we don't have theme too for the women yet. Um
but no. But also like Ijust think that's really professional advice. And
I think, no matter how muchyou're tempted, you just gotta you gotta
have self control. Yeah, youjust gotta have self control, which is
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and I mean it's a tough onebecause obviously people have met that way for
a long time, but it's justnot And I mean, look like if
you work in an office and Iknow someone who's like in that scenario with
like working in an office, andthen they have a relationship and they break
up and you're like, yeah,this sucks. Sucks, yeah, even
in comedy. But you're right too. It's like if you're a performer and
then you're dating someone empowered at theclub, then you can't even perform at
(55:06):
the club anymore. It just becomesweird. It's too and it's not worth
it. No, no, no, I don't think it's worth it.
Don't don't sit where you, don'tshit where you It is the moral of
the story shit, but just don'tshoot where you yes, and eat,
but just don't eat where your shipcorrect. Okay, Um, let's talk
about writing your jokes because you reallyare funny. I've seen you in stage
(55:27):
many times. Yeah, what inspiresyou? Like? Where do you get
the material from? It? Just? Uh, just whatever? Not alive?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Idon't know. Just I'll just things
pop into my head here and there, I'll see something or actually were I
was on the subway over here andI was with Justin Silver. Yeah,
(55:50):
and it was really funny too,by the way. Yeah, and there
was um, it was a crazyNew York's so crazy. There was a
guy who was like packed subway andthere's a guy fully laid out. Okay,
looked like he was dead, Likehe was like his eyes were open,
but he could tell he was likebreathing, right, but he looked
like his eyes were open. Hewasn't moving. He looked like he was
(56:12):
dead. Literally nobody could give ashit. Okay, like he might have
been dead. I'm laughing because you'reright. No, Like this guy literally
might have been dead and nobody asked, are you okay? Nothing, just
like he's laying flat on taking upthis New York. Well, I honestly
believe it, like I do.In New York City is the one where
you're like, this guy might bedead, nobody cares, and then there's
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like like he's right here, andthen over here some guy is like doing
pull ups and dances for change,like you know, doing these dances because
the people do that in New YorkCity. Like and you're just like it's
so crazy because you're like, thisguy might be dead, right and not
one person is gonna check check onhim, Like he could ride around dead
for hours before someone might be like, hey, this guy's dead called the
(56:59):
police are something, by the way, which I love the police, but
sometimes they don't do it in NewYork. By the way, the police,
it's very hard for them to getshit done. Yeah, Like it's
not necessarily like you're going to besaved. I always say, like,
you got to protect yourself. Ahyeah, exauce if you're not allowed to
except for yourself. It's a catchto protect yourself, to protect yourself in
York, So it's a catch.Twenty two. You're just talking about this
(57:20):
on Justin's podcast. Let's talk aboutthat a little bit, Okay, In
New York where you're like, literally, you have to run away because he
almost got mugged a couple days ago. What's going on a lot? I
feel like it's targeted. A lotof mugging has been happening, not only
with comedians but just in general.Yeah, I mean it's just like their
crime. I don't know, crimeis really high here. Yeah, it's
so funny you said that though you'rereally not allowed to. It's a crime
(57:43):
if you like defend your defend yourself. And I was saying that that's so
scary, like if like, ifyou're at home, you can defend yourself
if someone's like breaks in your house. But if you're like on a street
and someone comes up to you,like legally in New York City, you
have to run away. But whatdoes that say, Like where's the boundary
of like freedom then and like safetyand protecting ourselves. Well, they're just
(58:04):
like, I mean eving the situation. You know that enables people though,
that's the whole point of like,well for sure, but also I guess
they're in the city's mind. They'relike, well, you know, we'll
find we have police will find thosepeople, will prosecute them. But you
shouldn't be taking like this into yourown hands, right, But again,
you know, like that that's justlike it's kind of a gray area.
It's not black and white. It'snot so black and white, you know,
(58:24):
And I'm sure the detectives want todo the best job, but again
it's like just so much crime that'slike is it going to be good in
your hands or is it? Orshould I take mean like if you if
you, if you want to makeit like Texas where everybody can carry a
gun, like no, that's alsobad. Though, Yeah, I don't
know, Like honestly, I don'tknow. I think like I have changed
(58:45):
my tune on this actually a lot, because I used to be like very
anti gun, especially living in Canadawhere you like and look like there's there's
not school shootings in Canada, likeyou know that shit doesn't exist. There
are shootings, like criminals get gunsin Canada and they shoot people, like
it was near where I lived,like literally last week in Toronto. This
woman was like these three guys thatgot in a fight like broad daylight,
(59:07):
like just got in a fight.She was like walking on her like lunch
break, and she caught a straybullet and died like this woman like it
was like really tragic, like youknow, two kids, Like you know,
she's like in her forties or Something'sjust like so that shit happens everywhere.
But uh, you know, thereis an argument to be made that,
um, you know, a morearmed society might be a more polite
(59:28):
society in the sense that you know, you're you're not gonna like if you
think everybody has a gun, you'reprobably not gonna go try and rob somebody,
true, right, Like like likeif those guys who were like go
to mug people or like there's acomic crat his face slashed to couple.
I know, I'm sorry. Youknow, it's like if if the crazy
people in the city thought that,like you know what, like everybody has
(59:51):
guns, probably wouldn't happen. Ithink so too. I also think people
wouldn't talk as much shit in general. Yeah, if everybody, you know,
everybody had a gun. I meanwhen I'm like, like I go
down to Florida from time to timeand I'll like rent a car there and
like I definitely am driving, andyou know, I think to myself,
You're like, yeah, you know, you're like one road rage attack from
getting just a car shot up oreven just where it's like that wouldn't cross
(01:00:13):
my mind, wouldn't cross your mind, even though taking the stage or going
out there with no security, youjust you don't This whole world is going
crazy, so you just don't knowwhat's going to happen after it to you
where and New York is like yeah, I mean, look, there's a
lot of you can go live livingand I'm sure some sleepy town somewhere like
and they don't have any of theseproblems, Like it's a city of ten
million people, like there's gonna becrime. It's gonna be crime. It's
(01:00:34):
just like how much crime? Andyou feel like, what do you think
we need to do to make changes? I guess or I don't know.
That's that's that's a side. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. You're
like, I'm just a comedian ina podcast. I don't know. I'm
not a politician. I don't knowhow to fix Um. Why don't you
ask Biden? Maybe? UM,I get it, But New York City,
to me, it just hasn't beenlike this dangerous. Yeah. Just
(01:00:55):
I've lived my whole life here.Justin said the same thing. He's like
life here like this is like kindof feels like what it was like in
the eighties and stuff. Yeah,like that you can't even go out on
the subway and feel like people pushin front of the tracks, like people
getting I mean the face sometimes forthe face and our heart goes out by
the way to David from Dope UpComedy, you know, they're like my
family. I love those kids.Um. And the fact that this guy
(01:01:17):
is just working his ass off andmining his business and then this happens to
him, It's like so, butit's like face flashings are like a New
York thing? What is that about? It has to be no, I'm
very so. I'm obsessed with likethe psychology behind serial killers or like muggers
or murders. There's a reason though, there's why are you picking that?
Like, I don't know, butit is. I think it's a gang
thing, but it's very specifically aNew York thing that they slash your face
(01:01:42):
here. Oh my god, I'mso scared. Yeah, like it's an
actual New York thing that doesn't happenon the subway in other cities. But
have you like had a conspiracy inor theory about why I think Kevin Brennan
told me it's a gang thing,because I've been since I moved here,
I've been very vocal about the factthat I'm like, I can't believe how
many people get their fucking face slasheshere. Yeah, I know, it's
(01:02:04):
like a lot. I know theBrooklyn ones too, that those stories.
I don't know if well, therewas another comic Doug Smith had it happened
to him. Oh my like isit is it targeted towards the comics And
oh my god, I'm like,fuck, fuck me, what I mean
to do? No, it's it'slike it's always coincidental that it happened to
be though like a few weeks,well, there happens. No, he
was like ten years ago. Ohokay, okay, he's not recently.
(01:02:27):
But it's like I now know twocomedians who have had their face slashed on
the subway. Like it's like it'sa lot, it's a lot, and
it's sad by the way. Justqu I mean, it's like, look,
it's it's probably super traumatic for theperson that happens too, but you
know, like it's it's in termsof bad things that can happen to you,
there could be worse, but Icould imagine it would be very traumatic
(01:02:49):
thing, but you know, youcould like get killed or you know,
have your get stabbed or something.It's it's not like it's it is just
like a superficial wound, right right, Like he you know, nobody eyes
from having their face slash obviously unlessthey get your neck or something. But
it's the whole point. It's justlike to have this you know, visual
thing. I guess, Wow,this is a lot that I'm learning,
(01:03:10):
like, and I was thinking aboutit. By the way, you guys
can go out my insert story orjust in general go to Doped Up Comedy
because they have a link for Davidto help him a fundraiser for medical bills
and to help him with the plasticsurgery. So at least he feels good
because that's a you know, verytraumatic thing. And general it's the invasion
of your privacy, your space.You just think all these things. Sure,
(01:03:30):
it's crazy, Yeah, I can. I can't imagine the city.
I though the thing does need todo more. People just need to do
more to protect I know you're gonnasay if this is a New York,
same thing, but like something hasto give because the crime here is just
well there was. I mean,if you know about Daniel Penny, it's
like there was a guy who didsomething and now he's like on trial for
murder. Oh, what's going onwith that? He was like, I'm
(01:03:51):
getting my news from you right now. Well, he was like a marine.
He was the guy I remember JordanNeil Oh yeah, yeah, yeah
yeah, he likes tried to subduea crazy guy in the subway and killed
and he died. There's various opinionsor whether he was responsible for him.
And now that guy is like literallyon trial for manslaughter. So if you're
riding the subway, why would yougo help someone, like if that's going
(01:04:14):
to put you in jail. Wow, that's a crazy story. Yeah,
that's a crazy story. I haveso much to take in now. But
there was another incident like a weeklater of someone who did someone was like
a menace on the subway and thisguy stabbed him and killed him, and
they charged that guy with manslaughter.But then they released him. They actually
like remove the charges or whatever andhe's free to go. So you know,
(01:04:36):
there's one incident where it was fine, there's one incident where it wasn't,
which is what calls back to yourpoint saying walk away, you run,
well, you walk away, butyou're like, you can't walk away
on a subway car. These areboth instances on a subway car, and
you're like, if you see somethingcrazy happening on a subway car, you're
like, there's a chance that ifyou step in there that you will be
criminally liable for like helping somebody.So do you think though that we had
(01:05:00):
more police back then than now aroundand that's why or now we don't know
if that's happening. Yeah, yeah, it's above our pay grade. But
it's just interesting. It's interesting.But I mean I mean, like um,
like you know social services, LikeI was saying, justin it's like
the joker. It's like a lotof people are probably just like falling through
the cracks of all these like socialsafety nets, and you know they have
(01:05:21):
met they're all mental health issues,like all the people all mental health.
It's all all mental health, right, So it's like it's people who are
like addiction mental health problems. Theseare the perpetrators of all these or like
you know these the whatever the makeupof all these people. So you're like,
probably there needs to be more moneyfor that stuff, but they probably
(01:05:42):
and there's also survival. I feellike it's the survives. There's never an
excuse. I'm saying when somebody feelsthey need a phone or money or they're
gonna go to that extent and stupidbecause it's like, yes and not like
you can phone like an iPhone.Robbing someone for the iPhone is worthless because
you can just go brick your phone. So it's like, literally, I
don't know why they would, right, Yeah, they're not thinking. I
(01:06:02):
don't think these people are necessarily thinkthinking. So I think there's mental health.
Yeah, it's a mental health,and that's why we need a lot
of money for mental health. Honestly, where's it come from? I don't
know. I'm sure. I mean, I'm sure now it's available if they
take away money for something else,right, But I mean, but even
there's an organization for mental health thatraises money and awareness. It's called NAMI.
They're trying to do their best.But again, like you said,
(01:06:24):
it's like, I mean, thecity is like how much money have much
sitting like insane tax revenues. They'rejust they're spending and other things on other
things, right, instead of savingour people yeah, I mean we you
can you can vote for a newmayor who will fix it. But true,
I mean that's the voting is important. That's literally what you can do
is go vote a new mayor andwho will be like the tough on crime,
(01:06:45):
like how Juliana I loved him.Yea, Juliana was really tough on
that ship. I mean that's whatit was. We were when we were
during that time. I didn't feelit as much. Yeah, and then
you're just like, I don't know, you go like, that's how the
cycle works, is like probably getsmore dangerous than you vote in a new
guy. He cleans it up,and it's just like a cycle, and
now we're just in the back tobeing more dangerous because he probably made it
way less dangerous, but like atthe expense of like a lot of people's
(01:07:09):
rights, and like he probably wasover the people who go like, look,
how harsh you are. Like someguy who like jumped a turnstyle is
spending the last thirty days in jail, right, And we were like that's
not fair, right, So thenthey go correct that and then it becomes
more dangerous and it's just like acatch twenty two. Yeah, I would
not want to be a politician.It's probably a hard job, very hard.
I don't know how to be political. Um, well let's talk about
(01:07:30):
real quick bathhouse. Yes, so, because I feel like going back to
like not having TV. When Iwatch your clips alone, I'm not just
like blowing smoke up your eyes.It's so interesting to be like, I
want to watch it right away.Yeah, what made you start it?
Like? What is it about?Because guys kind to check this out.
It's really interesting. Yeah. So, um, I just so I do
Low Value Mail, which is myshow on Tuesday Night. It's like a
(01:07:50):
calling show, and then I basicallyjust wanted to do like a similar like
I don't even Eve watched like Openand Anthony, but it's kind of like
similar to that. It's just likecomedians hang out and then you can kind
of just call in and uh yeah, and I've I haven't been doing it
for that long. I've only beendoing it for like six months, and
(01:08:11):
hopefully the stand lets me keep doingit because it kind of so it's live.
It's live. Yeah, it's alot of people then they come to
see the show. No no,no, it's just video live yeah,
the videos yet there ace No,there's no audience. No, there's no
audience. It's just like people watchon YouTube and then it's on my channel
Low Value Mail, and yeah,it's just like comics hang out. People
call in and it's kind of likeweek to week different but it's mostly just
(01:08:35):
like a very h just straight kindof comedy. Like we don't really have
topics, Like it's nothing like justlike like that just conversation. Yeah,
kind of just like shooting the ship. People call in the last for like
they'll just have questions like we have, you know, some regular callers.
Some people will call for the firsttime. Although I got um recently.
(01:08:57):
I got to strike up because itused to be all on my main YouTube
channel, and then I got astrike on my channel, so then I've
moved a strike. A strike onYouTube is when you do something naughty.
Okay, I thought we were supposedto do naughty. You know what,
This YouTube's cracking down a lot,so that's why there's only fans. Okay,
I get any here. Yeah,YouTube has been cracking down a lot.
(01:09:19):
I don't know why that. Theygave the Theo Vanna strike. They
gave Tim Dylan a strike. Meyou can't post your channel gets demonetized for
three months. You can't post fora week, and if you get three
strikes, you're never allowed to havea you do channel for the this of
your life and what considers the naughty, that's the problem, right, So
(01:09:40):
I got a strike for we weretalking about the day Ted Kazinski died,
Okay, the UNI bomber. Right, we were just talking about it on
the show on the Bathhouse. Hehad died and then someone just brought him
up. We were talking about it, and then the guy who makes my
clips made a clip of us talkingabout it, right, and I posted
(01:10:02):
the clip, yeah, from thefull episode, So the full episodes on
my channel, no strike. Right. Then we take a clip from the
full episode, post it on mychannel and it immediately got a strike for
glorifying violent criminal organizations or something likethat. Was like the what they said,
right, but that's not what you'redoing. It's just like, right,
(01:10:24):
it's a comedy. Well, theycan't tell the difference between comedy because
it's like an algorithm is just likedetecting words and goes this is this gets
flagged because we were talking about TedKazinski and he's like whatever on their list
of shit you're not allowed to talkabout. And then so it got a
strike, and then I appealed itinstantly denied appeal. And then when the
(01:10:45):
only other option you can have isgood, you go make a stink about
it on like Twitter, and ifenough people kind of like make it,
help you with it, then YouTubewill give it a final manual review where
someone will watch it. And theystill were like, yeah, it's a
strike for God, and it's likewe did nothing of the sort. We
talked about it on a comedy podcast. So they give your strikes and then
you like you can't stream, andyour strikes stays there for like three months,
(01:11:09):
and if if you don't get anotherstrike, it goes away, so
then you start back over. Butit's like again, it's like it's unclear.
And then Tim, like Tim Dillongot one for his podcast Theo Vane
got one for having Roseanne on hispodcast, like where you're like it's comedy,
we're just like talking about comedy andstuff, and it's unclear how the
rules are enforced, Like what therules are. It's just like none of
(01:11:31):
that shit's clear. And what sucksis also like you'll be in it,
right, you'll be recording it andthen all of a sudden, right,
you don't know the rules, youdon't know what you're saying is naughty or
not. But more important Instagram too, of that happens, it's like,
how are you supposed to know?Then? Why am I even creating?
I mean, TikTok's the worst.TikTok is really bad, like and that
was the thing. I TikTok islike the most uh like where the most
(01:11:51):
restrictive. So I assume that thatclip that I got a strike for,
I'm like, I'll post this onTikTok and It'll get removed immediately, right,
must assuming that, But it didn't. It was like it's still on
TikTok. So it was fine forTikTok. YouTube was like, this is
a strike, but the actual originalvideo, like the original podcast that got
the strike not a strike. Iget it. Wow, that's crazy.
(01:12:15):
Yeah, So it's just like it'sit's very unclear. Actually, that reminds
me should probably remove that from thatchannel. Yeah. Now I've been moving
everything over to this new channel,so I have a new channel. But
then I lost like a huge amountof viewers because even just well whatever,
just even though I tell everybody it'syou just lose the game, but it's
I think in the long run it'sbetter. But so anyways, does it
(01:12:38):
even help though, to like haveviewers vouch for you or no, the
strike has nothing to even know.It's YouTube internally for their ad policies and
all the stuff, they're just like, we don't want we don't want this
on our platform. But again it'snot applied. Like there's a video of
a guy on YouTube literally waxing hisasshole, but he says it's for like
educational purposes that can stay up.That's comedy podcast They're like cracking down.
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They're literally cracking down on comedy podcasts. That's interesting. Yeah, that's that.
It's right, specifically comedy podcasts too, I mean yeah, And it's
just like, look, they don'tjust josh jokes. Well, they don't
distinguish between jokes and not jokes becauselike, you could say a joke,
but if it's said by someone who'snot joking, you could be like,
oh, that's kind of inflammatory,right, but said by someone who's joking.
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And again it's not somebody's not watchingit. It's just like there thing
is just scraping all this data andit just sees these words and goes,
that's that's that's an issue. Butit's being said as a joke, but
they don't. They're distinguishment. Anyways, I think Elon Musk is going to
solve a lot of these problems withTwitter. Okay, that's good to know.
I hope, So, I reallyhope. So do you think so
now that we have a woke youknow, it's more woke generation with jokes.
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Like I was speaking to Judy Goldabout this and she was just like,
no, you're supposed to be ableto say whatever the fuck you want
on stage, no matter what everyone'sgetting. That's rich coming from her because
everyone's getting offended. I mean sheliterally went off everyone. Shane gil Us
she did, why not I thoughthim in the no for everything? And
then when Shane gun wasn't. Icould be wrong, but I believe,
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like when Shane got in trouble forhis whole cancelation, like she's one of
the people who was like kind ofsaying what he was doing was not okay,
which is fine, but both thingsright because on the podcast she was
like saying she was very adamant especiallyas women, as female comics, like
you're allowed to say things without theaudience feeling that they're offended all the time,
because the audience will come up toher or they've come up to me
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or other comics and be like andit's like, guys, it's just a
joke. We're just telling you're ata comedy club. But like, if
Eddie Murphy did it these days,do you think he would get canceled?
Like no, like no, like, no, nobody's getting canceled for really.
I mean, nobody's getting canceled forlike stand up really unless it sucks
right and then no good comedians LikeI mean I went and saw Louis c.
K massa square garden, like peopleare still seeing him? He said,
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yeah, it was sold out.Now'sa square garden like in the round,
like twenty thousand people there. Likenobody's getting canceled for comedy like that
again, Like Shane's thing was becauseyeah can educate. Shane Gillis was got
on Saturday Night Live. He waspicked to be a new in twenty nineteen.
They were like, he's gonna bethe new cast member on Saturday Night
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Live. And then this fucking weaselwho was like a comedy journalist or whatever
unearthed some clips of him just likesaying some stuff which wasn't even racist.
It was like the way he wasexplaining it was like, you know again,
it was just a joke he wasmaking, and the way he framed
it was he was being racist.And then he got basically fired from S
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and L like within a week ofbeing hired because of this guy's now for
him, because no one for him, He's way better off. Like I
mean, it's sucked at the time, but like I mean, one of
the most famous yea he is.I was like really, yeah, but
you're right because he gets to dothat's what I love about. And he's
like literally one of the most famouscomedians in the world literally, like right
now, he's like huge. He'sDid you see him on bub Kiss because
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he was really funny. It wason Pete Davidson. Was he gonna it
was really good on it? Yeah, But that's what I'm saying, Like
him, Tim did, Like youguys have like this, I feel like
drew this path where you can befamous. Yeah. The only people who
can cancel you like us as YouTube, right because you don't relying on networks,
You're not relying head nobody writes asa check, like we get you
know, we have some sponsors andwe have our patrons, and that's it.
(01:16:17):
Like like, but then some peopleare also worried about getting canceled by
sponsors. I mean, would you, but you can't worry sponsors. But
our sponsors like know what they're sponsoring. We don't say anything like right,
We're just they're like, yeah,they want to sponsor a comedy podcast.
That's what it is. You needto know. You need to work with
people who know what your brand isand are willing to vouch for your Yeah,
exactly, we have like big,big time sponsors, but they're like
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they're fine with sponsoring comedy podcasts.Like you know, we don't and you
know we're not big enough size.But yeah, like the canceledone's so worried
about getting canceled. That's what itis. I'm not you know what,
I have this conversation. I'm inspiredto not care anymore. I honestly like,
again, if you're you say somethingso heinous that you're getting literally your
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career taken away from you, Idon't even know of a real example of
that happening. Like we're a specificthing and you're like generally, like if
you're doing it in a comedy clubenvironment or whatever, like if you're bombing
and you're saying something crazy and thenlike yeah, I mean you could tell,
right, I could. Yeah,Like if you're if everybody's laughing,
then nobody's really going to cancel you, Like yeah, yeah, I don't
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know. That's hard. It's hardto put yourself out there. Comic comedy's
hard, like if you're getting canceledas a comedians because you did something illegal,
and it's just like the only comicswho really got canceled were like in
the B two stuff like true,I don't know, and they didn't even
really some of them did something somebodydid, some of them didn't, Like
I mean, Chrystalia is still around, yeah exactly, It's not like yeah,
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yeah and again, and no oneeven knows. Everyone always believes one
side of the story, like noone has the evidence. I always say,
show receipts and evidence, like yes, of course, if women are
complaining, we believe them. Imean, I know I know a female
comic who would like kind of jumpedon the whole Chrystallia thing, and her
thing was literally like I was,she was in her twenties, and he
messaged sure, and you're like okay, okay, and and they love to
(01:18:06):
turn it around or throw but thisis what I also say to people,
be careful of what you throw aroundgenerally, because you can ruin I know,
career, I know, but Ihate. I really don't mind.
You can. That was the objective, But that's what I'm saying. I'm
against this stuff about ruining someone's Ifit's true, you take it up with
authority, do you take it upillegally? You document, you don't publicize.
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I understand the argument that they werelike, yeah, well we try
to take it up with the authorities, and okay, they wouldn't listen to
us, and fine, you know, there's it's a really hard thing to
prove. But like a lot ofpeople are not even claiming criminal things,
right, I'm not saying that personto be ruined. They're just like he's
a sleazy guy. And you're like, okay, well that's I don't know.
I don't know if this grounds forhaving everything removed from you. But
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have you heard of how he's doingat all? Or do you know?
And fine, he's fine, likehe doesn't let it affect him. Much.
Well, he's just like his peoplewho like him like him, and
I mean he's definitely like he can'tever work on like he's never gonna be
on a TV show. Regan reallythink that fu Yeah wow, Hollywood really
Oh yeah, he's the funniest thingthat Hollywood says that what they call the
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kettle block a little bit because weknow a lot of executives and the CEOs
that are doing much worse. Yeah, yeah, but he's never gonna like
I can't imagine there's a scenarios ona Netflix show. Again, that really
seems like on network TV, right, So it's more like tours and like
more podcasting and more podcaster. Imean, he goes where all the fucking
where all of us go. He'sa podcast you know. I like that
though, not to be scared tobe canceled. That's a great calm lesson
(01:19:32):
for today. It's just like yeah, yeah, I mean there's there's a
whole world out there like of uh, you know, people who are not
in the industry who are doing fine. I like that. Yeah. One
question before we wrap up, onelast question, shannel in the city,
where do you like to go hotspots that you can recommend hot spots that
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I can recommend, or that mygirl is more of the hot spot person.
I just kind of yeah, bythe way, I follow her ad
Heather Road. Okay, she's notpublic, she's not gonna DM you,
but you could also listen to thisradio show and podcasts. Yea, but
what are your suggestions that you liketo get your head kind of in the
you know, I like Blue RibbonSushi place is really good. I'm more
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like food stuff. Yeah, Idon't know. I'm not like, uh,
I'm trying to think, where haveI gone that I really liked?
Um, there's this place in theEast Village's Roman place. It's not that
fancy, but it's called Toby Tomo, which is one of my favorite ramen
places. I love ramen. Um. I don't know. I'm not a
big scenster like Brooklyn Mirage. Ilike that, like that or whatever.
But it's mostly she's just taking meof stuff. Like she goes and we're
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going to this thing, and Ilove it. I love it. She's
gonna make even cooler one one day. We're gonna see just come out of
a limo with your sunglasses, withyour You're like, yeah, we're going
to Lavo tonight and I'm going tobe the Yeah. I don't know what
that is, so I know it'sit's another hot club. Okay, it's
on the hot clubs. I don'tknow what it's on by the same owners
of A Little Sister. I gottatake you there. You and Heather,
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we love that. I don't knowanything about it. That that ship.
Maybe we could sell it. Yeah, well, anything we want to say
or plug in before we just followme everywhere at Danny Jokes Okay and podcast
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you so much. Danny Polishock.Am I I'm still not pronouncing polischuck right,
polis check. I'm just doing theLong Island act. I know I'm
not, you know, but Dannypolish Chack, thank you for being here.
I really think you're an awesome person. You're hilarious, you're talented,
you're amazing. I'm so happy we'refriends. Yes, and thank you for
being so kind to me, sosupportive. Yeah, you know, um
(01:21:41):
Danny's a good guy, so thankyou. Follow him, make sure to
tune into his podcast. We're rootingfor you. Thank you. I have
a feeling you're gonna win an enemyfor something. Listen if I'm right.
If I'm right, then I'm psychicbecause I've been like I've been calling shit
and it's been happening. So Idon't know if I'm psychic or something's happening
in the energy. But we'll see. Let's put in the universe. Yeah,
okay, I mean I don't evenknow what. I don't want to
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win it. I don't know why. I'm Chris Jennerary. Why don't Amy
Good? I don't know, I'mlike a Chris. I'm Chris Jennerary right
now. I'm not better win thatof my friends whose careers I want have
won Emmys or are you. Onemore thing is like, what what would
be your ideal? I mean,like ideal right now to to like a
chief? I mean, you know, Tim Dylan or Shane or something.
They're like, you know, justdoing stand up and podcasting. But I
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do think there's gonna be um acategory for Emmys for podcasting. I've spoken
to a couple of publicism they're notgoing to be white guys look like me
who talk about the shit I talkabout. Yes, they're will you're Jewish.
So that helps a little bit.It doesn't. No, it doesn't,
doesn't. I know. It's Ijoked about it a long time when
I was having in Canada, wherelike, uh, you know, like
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like I'm just considered a white guy. Like they're not like, oh,
you're Jewish. They're like, no, you're just a white this white guy.
Right. Yeah, well, maybewe'll change it. We need some
more representation here, we do it. Okay, Fine, I'm just going
through. We're gross represent Wait.But the thing, funny thing is is
that the the the majority of theexecs that run Hollywood are Jewish. Yeah,
and you would think they'd help theirfellow assists. The conies were true,
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right, but they say, butthey're not. No, they're just
trying to make money. And that'swhat Look, they're trying to make money
money. They are those they're theexecutives. They work for a business,
and guys who look like me don'tmake money for like what they're trying to
like they're trying to do. Yeah, and that's all there is to it.
And that's all folks. Yeah,stay tuned for another episode on Chanelle.
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Maybe one day it was the case, but that is not the case.
Maybe one day, but we arerooting for you and I hope everything
you get you and had their success, love, happiness. May your marriage
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