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February 14, 2021 76 min

Happy Valentines Day Everyone

Joining The Vern is podcaster, model, and professor of fetish Ruby Mae (click on her name to view all of her kinks, I mean links)   She brought along her friend Deerick of PCA Productions  and the three of us had a fun time talking about the 2002 BDSM positive film, Secretary .  Having a guest who actually works in the community of what takes place in the movie was both relaxing, insightful and a lot of  fun.   I hope you have as much fun listening as we had recording.

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