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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And we are back.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
It is Colts Corner with myself, Kevin Bowen, Mark Dythan
once again out.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Of the bullpen, and boil boy.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
We're talking about another ass kicking by the Indianapolis Colts
forty to six yesterday over the Las Vegas Raiders. Honestly
kind of a it's a different type of blowout, and
I think we'll get into that throughout the show. I
don't think you necessarily look at the box score and
it jumps off the page at you, but definitely a
few key statistics where you can really see how and

(00:31):
why the Colts were able to have their biggest margin
of victory in twelve years.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
And Mark, I think I want to start there.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
It's just well, first off, I should probably say good
morning to you, how are you morning, how are you?
Thank you as thank you for having me as usual,
for doing this much much appreciative. I don't care that
these teams are bad. I don't care if they're going
to be drafting the top ten. I said this after
the Titans game. I'll say it again. The Colts did
not win a single game more than twenty points at

(01:01):
all last season, at all in twenty three, and at
all in twenty twenty two, and now they've done it
three times in five weeks. They're playing to their standard,
not to their competition. Hell Mark, they've lost to shitty
quarterbacks named Taylor Heineke, Jake Browning, Drew Locke, you know,

(01:24):
I Procossweiler. Yes, there's a much longer list in recent years.
And not only are they taking care of these teams,
they're doing them in really emphatic fashion. And again, just
a year ago, all eight of your wins were by
one score. So to me, it's very impressive, just the
thoroughness to these margins running away from these teams. I'm curious,

(01:47):
big picture, what does this early season confidence do for you.
We've never seen the Colts play from ahead in a season.
It's been years. So now when you go to Arrowhead,
or go to Pittsburgh or go to see do you
play with a little bit more confidence? And now that
one possession game, does it go your way whereas in
LA didn't go your way? You know, those sorts of

(02:08):
things I'm really curious about when you look at it
big picture, I.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Think it also just means like you're stacking these wins
against bad teams, so you have house money to play
with in these bigger games. The down line, when the
schedule does get a bit tougher or the injury bug starts.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
To hit you, you know a little bit more, you know,
those sorts of things. I think that's really good a
point out as well.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
They're winning at home, that hasn't been a guarantee in
recent years. They were five hundred at home Understike in
before that. I think all of that are things that
stand out to me. But again, the three wins by
twenty points in five weeks, I.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Like last year.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
I want to say the Bills and the Ravens maybe
are the only two teams.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
That had three such wins over an entire season.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Like NFL teams don't blow out other NFL teams, and
they typically don't do it more than once in a year,
maybe twice, and the Cults have now done it three
times in five weeks, so major credit. It's a definition
of complimentary football. And that was obviously something that Changsike
and focused on a ton ton in the offseason, and uh,
they've had it going so far.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
All right, you want to get into what you liked yesterday,
plenty to get into with that, Yes, sir, where are
we starting big first half plays?

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Okay, so this is where we start to get into
this mark about like the blowout was a little bit
different than the other ones. Is there a more misleading
comment than this? The Raiders won two quarters yesterday and
the Colts won two quarters yesterday.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Yeah, because if you didn't watch the game and just
saw the boxer, like, that's impossible. What are you talking?

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Raiders won the first and the fourth and the Colts
won the second and the third. You look at the
yardage the Colts only out gained. And how about this,
the Colts had three one seven yards yesterday. The Colts
had twenty one more yards than the Raiders. They had
actually more penalty yardage than the Raiders.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Like you see that in the box scoring and.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
You probably think, oh, one possession game, But no, it
was the biggest margin again in twelve years. Okay, Why
the Colts were a perfect six of six in the
red zone. The Raiders were zero for four. So just
do red zone math there for a second. Let's say
instead of scoring seven you settle for three. All right,

(04:22):
that's a four point difference. I just said ten red
zone drives six for the Colts, four for the Raiders
ten times four is forty. That's a forty point margin
if you look at it like that, and the final
score was close to that. So, I mean, honestly, so
much of this game came down to the red zone.
And yes, the Colts did have two more red zone
chances than the Raiders, so obviously that matters, but you

(04:44):
converting and you stopping them was the difference. You know.
As far as specifically the big first half plays, I
look at nothing bigger than Josh Downs on the third
and twelve. That was a playmark where Daniel Jones was
very content throwing short of the sticks there. It's a
play that looks like you know you're gonna be running
the fieldal unit on there for whatever a mid length

(05:05):
field goal in Downs breaks one two, three tackles to
turn whatever a six seven yard dump into fourteen thirteen.
I mean, just a hell of an effort by Josh Downs.
Tyler Warren is not spiking the football unless Josh Downs
does that. So that is the first playoff point two.
Chaguing a Loubi on the block punt. Certainly that wasn't

(05:27):
even like the Colts trying to block it. That was
a Louby thinking to himself, Man, I don't think that
outside guy is gonna be able to get to me here.
And hell, he almost blocked it. He almost maybe eliminated
kids from his future with how he blocked that punt there.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
And the Raiders need to reevalue with their special teams.
That's the second time. A field goal last week, a
punt this week. Not good from them.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Hell, they got their punter or hurt.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, and obviously they think they might have had some
retaliation after that. And then lastly, Grover Stewart getting his
big Ol'paul up there. Two a lot two gets to
celebrate the pick and all that, but it doesn't happen
without Grover, And like, think about those plays. Okay, the
Cults are down three nothing with down when Downs makes
that play, maybe that's three to three in the middle
of the second quarter.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Three to three. That sounds weird.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Let Gino Smith is adamant he had a dude wide
open in the back of the end zone on the
Grover Stewart play. Okay, let's say Grover doesn't get his
hand up there, Gino throws that in there. We're talking
probably fourteen to ten and a half m h I mean,
does it just sounds so different when you say it
out loud, so again, in a month, in two months,
we're gonna look back at forty to six and be like, man,

(06:29):
what an absolute dismantling. And obviously it turned into that,
but you gotta mention these first half plays. They're so
important to again taking Ashton Gentzy out of the game,
taking Max Crosby and not putting him into these obvious
passing situations. So before he moved on to anything else, Mark,
I just wanted to make sure we pointed out some

(06:50):
of those first half plays there because they were so
critical in a scoreless first quarter for the first time
all season, turning into a three score halftime lead.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Yeah, I mean there's a couple even early in the
game there was there was a play where Max Crosby
just whipped around the offensive line and just got to
Jonathan Taylor in like an instant. I'm like, oh boy,
that could be trouble if that keeps up going on,
And that was early in the game.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Didn't get Taylor going no other day. I mean, Taylor
had his quietest day of the season. So again, you know,
why how were you able to build this lead? You know,
here's a little bit of the reasons why.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
All right, Next up Daniel Jones. Operating.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, operating to me, I think is a keyword, Like, okay,
Daniel Jones.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
What he threw for two? Was it?

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Two? Nineteen to twelve to twelve and two touchdowns? That's
a fine fantasy football day. It's not the most eye
poppying fantasy football day. But then look at the bigger
team stats. Offensively six of six in the red zone,
eight of ten on third down. That dies saying a
franchise record. How about also tying a franchise record with

(07:56):
six straight touchdown drives. So when I say Daniel Jones,
I want to point to him operating an offense that
is putting up numbers in a sixty minute game that
we haven't seen in franchise history or it ties franchise records,
and you obviously look at the quarterbacks that have played
for this franchise. So I was for the day that

(08:21):
Jones had. I was glad he had the highlight there
at the end of the first half, which is another
play I probably should have mentioned as well, because to me,
that was the best individual play of Jones's season. Where
you are rolling out to the right. I think there
are the four yard line. They had no timeouts, less
than twenty seconds at that point, I thought to yourself, Okay,
can you got two shots at it? Probably through the air,

(08:42):
maybe a third. But your quarterbacks have to be really
smart here. You can't obviously take a sack, you can't
dump one short of the goal line, and you know,
run the risk of being tackled in the field. To
play all of that is super, super risky. So he
rolls to his right and as he's rolling there is
pressure and I'm thinking myself, just throw it out of
the back of the end zone, live to see the

(09:03):
next down. And instead, as he shows the athletic ability
to roll out b he then shows the poise to
stay in the play. He doesn't panic early, he stays
in the play and then see he shows off the
arm velocity to rifle one. To Michael Pittman Jr. It
was risky and he found the reward. And those are

(09:24):
the types of plays.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Mark.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
That's it separates quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
I mean, if you want to look at it, Geno
Smith throws a pick on the other end of the
field and then Daniel Jones makes that play like if
I said to you at the start of the year,
Geno Smith Daniel Jones, you probably would have said Geno
Smith's a little better, but like maybe similar teams. That's
what tears quarterbacks differently though, Like when all of a sudden,

(09:51):
you're getting a huge play in the red zone, it's
a condensed area of the field. You're gonna need your
quarterback to maybe have some self creation. The x's and
O that you draw up there's probably not going to
be exactly how it works. Can your quarterback make a play?
And that's exactly what that play was.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
And I feel like Daniel Jones, like, yeah, if you
look just the box score, like his numbers aren't like
gonna blow you away, but he's just commanding the offense
the way we haven't seen anybody do with Shane Steichen's scheme,
and it's just like he's doing what he wants out there.
He's making things happen. Like you said, he's not throwing
the ball away because he's like he has the confidence
now that he's trusting what his eyes are seeing. And

(10:26):
that's something we haven't seen with Colts quarterbacks in recent years,
where they're doubting the playbook or they're doubting what they're seeing,
or they're hesitant. He's not showing that, and he's obviously
excelling quite well in it.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
And like part of me thinks when the Colts send
in like their AFC Offensive Player of the Week nomination
for this week, they should like send in the Daniel
Jones and then be like, uh, FYI he didn't play
in the fourth quarter, Like yeah, so if he did,
that might look like two ninety and three touchdowns. So again,
Daniel Jones operating that, to me, I think is really
really key. And also he's part of the group that

(11:01):
did a great job on Max Crosby, and to me,
I think that's another key of like I don't know
if I put it in something I liked Mark, but
specifically for me, you know said this to you in
the Morning Show all week long, you let a star
player have a historic day the previous week.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Don't do that again.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Phuku Nakua did that to you, and instead Max Crosby
just a fine day and honestly probably a blow average
day for Crosby, only one tackle for loss on the
first drive of the game, only one ball batted down,
and only one quarterback hit I mean you watched him
play your Bears the week prior.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
He did a lot more damage than that. He was
a madman in the first half. Yeah, when he wrapped Taylor,
I was like, oh boy, here we go. And then
you didn't really hear people from the rep that.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
So the plan for.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Him obviously was very detailed and executed well.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
And your quarterback is a big part of that.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Ashton Doolan's professionalism is the last thing on what you liked.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
So they sent the message today Mitchell.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Frankly at the aady Mitchell would have been inactive if
Alec Pierce would have stayed healthy throughout the week, and
that's obviously unfortunate Peers to have the late week set
back due to the concussion. So they had to dress him.
But clearly they wanted to punish him in a way,
and I think you saw that he didn't play through
the first three quarters of the game. His helmet was

(12:19):
off like several times I look down there. That is
super rare. Like if you are an offensive player and
your team is having to drive, you have your helmet on.
Like all it takes is, you know, one little shoulder
pad issue or one little whatever shoe issue, and you're
gonna need to go out there like he wasn't even
looking like a guy that was about to go in
the game. So clearly they wanted to send a message

(12:42):
to Ady Mitchell, and honestly, the message they sent was
pretty strong. You know, pretty much he got benched, but
also the guy that then replaced him did everything you
could want for a coach. He is still doing his
special team stuff, punt gunner, kick off, kick return. Hell,
he took one of the house. And then as a receiver,

(13:04):
he's just trustworthy. You know, two cutches fifty five yards.
I frankly thought he should have caught the one that
I thought he got his head blown off on when
Jeremy Chin smoked him on the sideline. He drew the
passing inference penalty down the field as well. It just
it seemed like the perfect storm for the Colts in saying,
you know what, we're gonna send this message to Adie
Mitchell and then we're gonna have somebody go out there

(13:26):
and take his snaps and do everything that we want
Adie Mitchell to do. It was reliable, be trustworthy, be
a guy you can count on, And that's exactly what
Doulan did.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
It's a dude who is not taking the opportunities he's
given for Granted he's out there, he's like, I'm not
coming off this field unless I'm injured. Even then he
might not come he might not come off unless he's
forced to, because he's just showing that he's I'm versatile.
You need me there, you tell me where to go,
and I'll be there. Yeah, he return punts, I'll do that.
You need someone to kick because Strader is hurt, maybe

(13:58):
I'll do that too. He's just a guy that like,
he's one of those guys that you would love to
have on your team. And like you said on the
show this morning, he's lasted through three coaching changes. That
doesn't happen usually. Usually coaches want to bring their own
guys in and all that. That tells you what everybody
thinks of Ashton Doling, that he is a guy you
can trust. It doesn't matter what coaching staff comes in. Like,

(14:19):
this guy is a dude that we can have on
our team. He can play for us every single day.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
And look they've they've drafted a lot of whiteouts since
he's been here. Yeah, Pittman, Pierce Downs Mitchell and yet
he googled. Yet he's the one that has stayed throughout
all of this. And you know, I made this analogy
on our morning show, Like I'm sitting there watching the
game yesterday, I'm like, gosh, he just does everything the
coaches ask of him. I'm like, he strikes me as
like the perfect Matt Painter Purdue role player.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Just he's Mason Gillis, He's CJ.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Cox, He's Grady Effert if you go back to those, like,
I mean, just the perfect role player.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Like he's not getting the n IDL deal. It's for
the love of the.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Game, No, not at all.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
He might get the other friend of the bar, you know,
while you know the star player gets the other one.
But like I mean that aspect to him, he just delivers.
And again they wanted to send a message to Ady Mitchell.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
The coaching staff was clearly very upset.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
I think they were even more upset because the crossing
the goal line was emphasized emphatically as late as the
night before the Rams game, and then for watching that
play out the next day, and the holding penalty obviously
created even more frustration. They wanted to send a message, so,
you know, scout team throughout the week for him and

(15:40):
then once Alec Pierce had the set back, Okay, well, I.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Guess we have to.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
You know, they had a lot of injuries last week.
We had four inactives, so Mike Hilton was needed for
Kenny Moore. With Tyler Goodson out, they needed a running back,
so there's a Mira Abdullah. You only get two practice
squad call ups, so you had to keep Mitchell active
in that realm. But they sent the message and saying, hey,
you're fifty some snaps you got against the Rams. Those
are going to dooland he actually played a career high

(16:06):
forty seven offensive snaps, rationing, doing.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
All right things. He didn't like injuries.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
I mean Spencer Trader to think, I can you find
the dude? It just looked bad. I don't know, maybe
a letter of the law. Maybe he was fine, Maybe
he was just trying to block it, but I don't know.
That just kind of rubbed me the wrong way. And
again maybe whatever by the actual rule book, it wasn't
a penalty there, but that just looked awful. So you know,

(16:36):
I thought they should have tried to kick it. Later
with Sanchez, I'm like, do they really need to keep
on going for these two point in versions. I'm like,
why not have Drew Ogletree snap at Luke Rhodes hold it? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (16:48):
See what you got at that point? It was like
a preseason game at that point.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Yeah, and you never know when that might encounter in
a game, you know, you randomly see kickers get hurt.
I mean how the Raiders punter, I don't know if
you saw he got them limping out there to hold
just to kind of keep their operation as much as
much in in in store as they could there. But yeah,
that Strader injury. You feel awful for him. So now
what do they do? The Atlanta kicker, the one that

(17:17):
when you say his name out loud, you're like, wait,
is that how it really sounds?

Speaker 3 (17:20):
Young?

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Ho Ku?

Speaker 3 (17:21):
Yeah, I feel like I still am saying it incorrectly.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
I know, is that right? Are you sure about that?

Speaker 2 (17:27):
No? Sounds like you're out in Vegas later. Sounds like
something Mark Sanchez laid on Friday. I'm glad you said that,
not me.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah. Well just yeah, well what a just dumb ass,
what a drunken buffoon?

Speaker 3 (17:40):
Shockingly, that's not on your things? You didn't like that
needs to be first on the list.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
I know it should shout out to Brady Quinn's that's
a Notre dame class act stepping in Whinny and I
watched the first half last night when I got home,
though Brady Quinn did really so are you doing the
kicker tour? You know we always see the kicker too?
What about Buffalo?

Speaker 1 (17:57):
You know? Is Prader going to be out for a while?
I don't, you know.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
People keep on asking me about Justin Tucker. Isn't he
suspended for a while, like you got?

Speaker 3 (18:05):
I think he's suspended at least for the first six games,
if not longer.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
I thought it was like ten.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
I'll have to check. It might be longer than that.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
I mean we're only a week six, so I mean, yeah,
obviously need a kicker here for the next month or so,
so we'll see how the how it goes. And then
Grover Stewart with the bicep, I don't he looked to
be okay, but and I get he didn't go back
in the game at forties. Well he blew up that
fourth and inches.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Big dudes and biceps always make me worry. And then
the Colts have been awful without Grover Stewart on the
field and stopping the run. So that always has a
little concern on me. But obviously the Spencer Schrader one
is probably change Siko was not optimistic at all.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Justin Tucker is suspended for the first ten games. Yeah,
I mean, so that's even before you get into the
the pr nightmare right with the State daughters sign off
on that zero chance, I think you know your answer there.
The dude can't kick for at least another month. So yeah,
that to me was the biggest negative. Mark all right,
the next one on your list, his name is Joe Bachi,

(19:06):
but I maybe Joe Hibachi after yesterday.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
I'll look at that, look at that? Did you plan that? Not?

Speaker 3 (19:14):
But excellent I'm taking a note from James Voyd to here.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Excellent work there by no no take that and run
with it. By Mark Dychton linebacker play stinks. It stinks,
especially next to Franklin, and.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
We kind of knew that heading into the season. That
was one of our big positional concerns as a linebacker
and it hasn't gotten much better through five weeks.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
I mean, they're leading tackler yesterday, Austin and Jakie. He
wasn't even on the team at the start of the season, like,
and yet they've brought him back, and then they've signed
the fifty year master. I mean, they're trying everybody. Next
to Franklin, Bachi Snaps continued to go down. Chad Mooma
is playing a little bit. I want to see Loubie again.

(19:55):
I mean, I get that he's never really been in
the twenty twenty. He's not been the leu an Remo
guy by any means that linebacker. I don't think the
Jalen Carlis return his minn either. So yeah, they got
to figure out linebacker. And because they were very fortunate
the brock Bauers and Michael Meyer were in street clothes.
And if Kyler Murray's healthy, it could be Jacoby Brissett's time.

(20:17):
You know, Trey McBride, I mean, that could be a
pretty active day for him as a tight end.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
I feel like, aside from Zire Franklin, you could play
the game of Colts Linebacker or Indianapolis indian and you
wouldn't know it'd be so be throwing darts.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
So true, that's really well, that sounds like a good show.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
Segment I know. All right, let's get into Twitter questions.
If you're ready, let's do it, all right, King starts
us off. He said Ady has a world of talent,
but seems to consistently have some type of mental laps.
So with how the coaches have picked experience over potential,
is it safe to say Ashton Doolan is the new
A d He's the OGAD, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Yeah. Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Literally just picture g Jesus as soon as you said
ad And I don't know where to go after that.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
You're stuck in Sunday School.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
I'm just stuck. I'm just stuck right now.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Good beer Jesus is what I'm what I'm looking at right.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Now, teens.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Mark, If Alex Pierce is out next week, there's no
chance you go back to Adie Mitchell. No, no, I
can't imagine it. I just and let me be very
the Cardinals anyway. I mean, I guess you really would
think boy Adie Mitchell and and nari uh what's his name?
De Marcado both out on the same field. Can you
imagine that both coaches should send those two out for

(21:38):
the coin flip? Each of them need to boost the confidence. Yeah,
and don't drop the coin, don't pick up the coin
off the field. Let the coin fall. I think Doolan.
Let me start here on Mitchell. I was totally fine
with him in active or benched like he was yesterday.
Totally fine with that. I don't think it needs a

(21:59):
law more than a week. But having said that, I
don't like him not playing. I don't put in the
punishment category anymore. Let me start there, but I think
Ashton Doolan has earned the right to be above him
on the down in, down, out depth chart. Now, could
you lessen the load a little bit on Ashton Doolan again?

(22:22):
Forty seven snaps.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Is a game? Was a career high form? Or Michael
Pitman Jr.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Who missed you know last week one day it was
limited one day with a hamstring injury. But yeah, I'm
fine with that. You know, he didn't play a meaningful
snap yesterday, Mitchell. I'm good with him playing a little
bit of meaningful snaps next week. But I you know, again,
he can purely win one on one, you know, can
you dial that up in a half dozen snaps?

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (22:45):
You know Doolan has some limitations there, but still to me,
the guy I trust more is largely that, and think
about it, your third or or fourth wide out in
the route tree. It's largely like do you trust the guy?
Like can you run a hard route when you know
you're probably not getting the ball? That helps with you know,
keeping the defense on us, that helps with you know,

(23:07):
all of a sudden, Kai Blackman falls down and to
two out wells wide open. Matthew Stafford's like, oh my gosh,
of course I'm gonna throw it to him.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
You know those sorts of Thingah, you see mismatches you
can take advantage of later in the game or something, right.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
But I would I would keep the who gets the
bulk of the Alec Pierce role. If Pierce is out
to me, it deserves to be doing. Yeah, I'm fine.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
If if ad Mitchell is involved in the game plan,
I think he's better in kind of like yeah, a
change of pace kind of guy or something like that.
Start ad Mitchell start Asling doing, but have them, you know,
rotate throughout the game and keep the defense honest, so
you've got different schemes and looks going out there and
everything like that. Do I think he needs to be
benched through the bye week? No, absolutely not. But you

(23:48):
do need to find some role for him, because if Frankly,
if you're not finding a role for him against the Cardinals,
I can't see he's getting much run against the Chargers
or the Falcons or the Steelers down the line.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
So I mean, I think you sprinkle. I mean literally,
Reggie Wayne should have the ultimate teach tape today for
Adie Mitchell therewith And by the way, I do want
to read this from Reggie Wayne. I tweeted during the game,
mark like, did you see the Richardson overthrow of Mitchell?

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Mean want twenty yards overshead? Clear miscommunication. So I pretty
much tweeted that I go and third down Richardson throws
at twenty yards over Mitchell's head in a clear miscommunication.
Some dude replies to me and tagged Reggie Wayne and
goes that was all on ad based on the reaction
at Reggie Wayne had after the play and ad was

(24:39):
walking back on the sideline. Ritchie responds to that dude
after the game and goes, you have no idea what
you're talking about in all caps dead wrong. So who
knows the fact that Reggie Wayne feels the need to
go to Twitter there you know, obviously him and Mitchell
weren't on this se Richardson, that is him and Mitchell

(25:01):
worn on the same page. I don't know if I
have the energy to play the blame game on that,
but I just thought i'd share it.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
Pretty interesting. We'll have to see where that goes, all right,
Colt's maniac up next says, I know it's unlikely, but
with us being foreign, when having the potential need for
a reliable kicker, if Spencer Schrader is going to miss
significant time, the Colts try and pick up a future
Hall of Fame kicker such as Justin Tucker. Yeah, we
spend it through the first ten games, right, I mean
we we got.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
A few of these questions. I think Joelson what he's into.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
I mean again, you got to start there, like let's
say Spencer Trader or whatever broke his leg or you know,
knee lick him and stuff. He's you know, he's going
to miss his significant amount of time, Like you need
a kicker on Sunday. So I Maddox Treho, I don't
believe he's on a roster anyway. He was on your
you know, the roster in the off season. Never kicked
in the NFL, of course, or do you go to

(25:53):
the veteran market. You know, I probably opt for the
veteran market.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
And I don't know. I thought the dude in Atlanta
was was halfway good? Say that again? His name the Falcons.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
Guy young ho Coup. Yeah, I think is that that's
how you say it?

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Oh? Scared?

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Do you keep asking me to do that? I'm gonna
get right.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Young way, it's young young.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
Yeah, it's something I know I'm saying it wrong.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
I'm sure I am. Yell sometimes in your brain in
the maturity level. I'm a little nervous where you're at.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yeah, I don't know what the Buffalo. I haven't kept
tabs on the kickers around the league. Buffalo's got prayer
and bas should be coming back at some point, right,
I mean, I don't know. Go find one of these kickers, and.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Well about Rodrigo. You want to bring Rodrigo back?

Speaker 1 (26:33):
So where was he kicking? He kicked? Well?

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Right?

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Was it XFL, the UFL, UFL.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
Saint Louis BattleHawks.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
Dude, I don't know if I can do I can't
do rexpects.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
You want me to name some guys who are available?
Any okay? Goo blank and ship.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
This is unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Sane Gonzalez, Okay, Dustin Hopkins.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
Oh sure, Hopkins, Yeah, Florida Stake.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Greg Joseph Yeah, Young Way Coup Sure, and then Maddox
Traheo and a couple other guys. I'm not even sure
I'd never heard of them before.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Can you imagine playing the Jersey game? Can you name
how many teams those guys played for?

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, so that's what probably Monday or Tuesday is going
to look like for the Colts here.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
So that's where you're at as far as Talker's concerned.
I'm gonna say no, and I'm gonna say it pretty emphatically.
At first, Off would be stunned. He can't play football
until what your bye week? Right, so you need a
kicker for the next.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Month and then.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
He can make the trip to Berlin. I guess that's
technically no. No, you're right, he would have to be
after the bye week. Yeah, so, yeah, that didn't make sense.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
I mean, the allegations are definitely not all right. I
mean I would did he get charged. I don't even
know where I would say everything stands legally, But I'm
gonna go out on a limb and say their say, girls,
probably not fans of that.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
If I had your money, I would say there is
zero chance that they would sign Justin Tucker, and I'd
feel incredibly confident that that would be the case. So yeah,
I would I put any Justin Tucker discussion aside because
there's no way that's happening. They need a kicker now,
and they're also not going to take on that pr
nightmare with the daughters involved in the ownership now. So yes,
AYM put that to the side. All right, Randy says,

(28:06):
how is Joe Bochi still on this team? Let alone starting?
Have you seen the other linebackers?

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Yeah, yeah, the Boschi stores. You know, it's a nice
little camp story. But you know, even then, it's kind
of like, all right, yes there's a player too. But
I thought pretty early in the year you could see, man,
this is this is a liability and even like, honestly,
you just haven't had a lot of linebacker impact. Like

(28:32):
I know Franklin had the sack yesterday, but still I
just feel like that position group in general, Like right now,
if we're going to critical eye the Colts, I would say,
like linebacker play still depth at corner, and then like
quitty pay like, that's just a little like, all right,

(28:56):
when you face legit offenses. I mean, again, the Raiders
down there left tackle, they are two top tight ends.
Clearly Gino Smith to having some issues when you face
more competency on that side of the ball.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
What happens?

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Because again, the Cults have had thorough beatdowns of opponents,
you could also probably sit here and say, when the
Cults have faced two competent opponents, both games have gone
down to the final play pretty much Broncos and Rams.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
So yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
I guess a GK deserves maybe a little bit more
of a role. Again, Alubis, I thought when he played
linebacker he was halfway decent. I realized I was the
Gus Bradley era. Hell, there was part of me mark
that thought, does shack Leonard of anything left in the tank?

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Hell? His energy? I'm kidding by that, but man, his energy.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
I mean, I'm sure he'd like to suit up. I'm
sure if you gave him the chance.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
He's wired.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
I went to his press conference before the game started.
He is so fired up in there talking about, Yeah,
I'm coaching my high school team and right now we
have no defensive player over two hundred pounds, but yet
we still fight and we still Oh my gosh, man,
his energy just through there. He banged that An Villa
I say, great as annvil back.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah, yeah, he brought it.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yes, he is slightly different than Edrin James smooth operator
ye Annvilla.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Earlier in the year.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
All right, last one of Twitter questions was big Bama.
So if you can circle a particular upcoming game on
the schedule or a scenario situation for Daniel Jones would
make Ballard say, Okay, I've seen enough, he's our guy
for the future.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Yeah, I mean one game. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
It's hard to boil these things down to one game.
You know, as great as Daniel Jones looks yesterday, then
all of a sudden, you're like watching Geno Smith and
you're like, man, is.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
That what you could walk yourself into?

Speaker 3 (30:44):
You know, what are you saying it's one game in particular?
Are you saying like that would be the Okay, we've
seen enough to this point that now is extension talk?

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Yeah, I guess. I mean the debate right now is
either do you tag them or do you extend them? Right?
That's I mean. The debate is not.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
I mean, he's going to be your quarterback in twenty
twenty six to the first five games of the season, right,
I mean that's like a given. So now the debate
would be this, I don't know, would injury history were
you at all? Like would you want him that he
hasn't played a full season right in his career? I mean,
is that something you would do?

Speaker 3 (31:17):
You have to consider it, But I mean, yeah, like
does that creep into your I feel like that goes
for every player in every sport.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Well, yes, I just think his injury history is a
little bit more. You know, we're not talking about whatever
Josh Allen, you know, from a durability standpoint or the
mannings here. I mean, the win season went off the rails,
but I just can't envision that, you know, I'm trying
to think of other Iman Jacoby and them started five
and two, but I don't know, I think Paniel Jones

(31:44):
got a little bit more individual talent there. So yeah,
I don't know if there's necessarily like one game on
the schedule, like how about this one? Like you go
win at Kansas City and then all of a sudden
you hand them the extension that Monday.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
How about this.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
Sunday Summer seventh at Jacksonville. You get that win at Jacksonville,
you signed that man to a contract extension. Before you
get on the tarmac, he goes up with.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
The pool in Jacksonville, sits in the pool and signs
the extension in there with a nice.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
My tie gives a nut scrab to Jacksonville.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
I you like that, oh man? But yeah, I mean,
right now, again, I don't know what I think.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
The real debate just comes down to franchise tag.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
You know, Ballard does.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Always do you think they would play that, by the way,
would you think they go extension or where they go,
We're just going to hit the the tag on, you know.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Part of the things.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Do you extend Jones and tag Pierce? Remember you can
only just tag on one guy. That's a fun that's
a fun de little bit. I feel like, yeah, I mean,
it's considering how we thought we were going to have
a quarterback situation. And then again, do you get into,
you know, length of that contract. Is this a situation
where hey, let's do because what what was the initial one?

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Was it two to three?

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Or do you try go something a little bit longer
than that? And then We've heard Ballard recently say, hey,
you know a mistake that I felt like I made was,
you know, I didn't do a good enough job finding
the next quarterback while you still have one that can
give you a level of play that you like. So
does that mean, even if you extend Daniel Jones, do
you keep the twenty twenty six quarterback class close to

(33:20):
the burner twenty seven? Like Ballad says, it's easiest to
draft I have one. So these are all very debatable topics. Certainly,
for the most part, I know Ballard is given in
season extensions, not many, but for the most part, he's
a big believer in I'll let the deadlines spur the action.

(33:43):
He'll wait, and I think give. I mean, given Pierce's concussion,
I guess a state right now, and Daniel Jones's injury,
I think it's fine to hold all. I don't think, like,
I mean, you could tag him at any point, you know,
or you know, once once that window opens up in
February or whatever, and like I would like, I mean,

(34:04):
maybe Jones's agent would hardball you a little bit, but like,
let's be honest, he just revived, He's reviving his career.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
Here. Are you really going to risk it and go
somewhere else?

Speaker 3 (34:15):
And he chose to come here in free agency, he
could have gone somewhere right, right, And I'm pretty.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Sure Minnesota offered more money than Indy two.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
I'm pretty sure that.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
If Chris Ballard gets Daniel Jones agent on the phone,
and they offer him the Sam Darnold contract, so three years,
a little over one hundred million dollars, do you think
he takes that? And would you want him to sign
for that?

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (34:39):
I think it's about thirty three and a half million
a year. Yeah, yeah, I yeah, you would do that.
Ask me again in the and you're thinking about Jesus again,
But yeah, yeah I did.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
By the way, speaking of well, I don't know if
it is a good transition or not. I can think
of a birthday shout out to my lovely wife. Sure,
happy birthday to Mattie Bowen makes incredible sacrifices for our family,
and I hope she has a wonderful day. There's no
chance in the world she's listening to this podcast. Zero chance,
no chance, let alone the final minute of the pot.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
She is a big Markdiking fan. But I'll shoot her
text later that's gone well before easy Now, A happy
birthday to my lovely wife. She's incredible and I love.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Gold On Maddie. Thanks for putting up Kevin. We've hit
the Bengo car. We've gone with Mark Sanchez in the alley.
We've gone with Jesus, We've gone with clipboard Jesus. Have
we mentioned Charlie Whitehurst?

Speaker 1 (35:35):
No? Have we not gone there? We can hit that though.
What do you want to know about Mark Sanchez in
the alley? Anything else? We want to know what the
hell is he doing? That's a sixty nine year old dude.
He tried to like end his life.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
Yeah, I don't understand. I mean, I've been obviously, I've
been drunk before. I've never been to that point where
I'm accosting strangers in their vehicles and come out he
opened the car door. Yeah, I don't understand why he
was playing like parking police something, you can't park here?

Speaker 2 (36:00):
What?

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (36:01):
He tries to get like one of those meter things,
you know, those like things you wear around your neck.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Every time I see those people, I'm just always I mean, I.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
Want to see the video, like, I don't know if
I don't know how greas or anything like that.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
But I want to spread it down the alley.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
I probably don't need to see knives being pulled out
or that, but but I mean, I maybe he sat
there at the bar and maybe someone said to him, ah,
butt fumble guy, and he thought to himself, you know what,
I'm done with this. Butt fumble needs to be second
on the Google search. I'll show you when they search me.
I want alley guy and then butt Fumble. I just

(36:37):
remember reading that story and I'm like, what is happening today?
What's going on? I was coaching Rosie soccer game and
all of a sudden, someone texts me and I checked
my phone. I have to you're about to see Mark
Sanchez stabbed as a headline, just so you know he's
the suspect. I'm like, okay, like supernu yeah, I'm like,

(37:01):
this is about to be juicy. The sanchiz are you
talking about it?

Speaker 1 (37:04):
In social media?

Speaker 2 (37:05):
With just one of the most social media afternoons you'll
ever see, uh just delete button like none other, and
they're saying they jumped the gun. I find that shocking,
regret just and then the more the infos come out,
just incredible. Hope the sixty nine year old man is okay,
hope Mark Sanchez is okay and Brady Quinn delivering again.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
I was gonna say, was that another another like Notre
Dame win over USC?

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (37:28):
It is.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Notre Dame is better than USC for the last decade
or so. And that's another one.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Yeah, because Brady Quinn's like, you know what I got it? Hey,
let's be on Brady Quinn better looking than Mark Sanchez.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
Right. Do you ask Ashley Dyton, she will vehemently agree. O.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Good, thank you for that. There you go, Mark Dyton,
thank you well.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
We hit all cylinders today.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Signing off here.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Week five, we transitioned to the Arizona Cardinals. I think
it opened at five and a half. I believe we'll
see about Kyler Murray's foot. For those that haven't wanted
the Cardinals all year.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Oh boy, what a loss.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
That was all one possession games, two three straight losses.
They've lost all three on the final play of regulation.
I want to say five total points. Their games have
been decided by like thirteen total points this year. Something
just ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
And we'll see.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Could be Jacoby Brissette homecoming does it go?

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Berset tribute video?

Speaker 3 (38:15):
I mean, why would this only show the QB sneaks
m M. That would be a juicy storyline If Kyler
Murray can't go. I know that loses a little bit
of lester, but locally I kind of like to see it.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Kyler Murray went Beanie indoors yesterday, I'm like, okay, interesting
wrestler cutting weight.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
That was such an awful game and that was just
now mind boggling how they lost that. I was watching
that game on red Zone like, well, there's no way
the Titans are pulling this off, and sure enough they
found a way that was epic. Brian Callahan lasts another week.
Would you get dowsed with gatorade? I could have think so.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
I saw him like that as tremendous goes from fire
to gues dows with gatorade. Mark Dykeden, excellent work. This
is Colt's corner with myself. Kevin Bowen signing off. Thank
you all for listening. We'll talk to you on Wednesday.
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