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October 10, 2024 59 mins
Doc and Jacques talk with local singer-songwriter Lon Goddard. The episode features Lon’s musical journey, including his experiences in England. Lon also showcases his musical talents with three songs. Hosts: GiGi “Doc” Reed MD, Jacques Kepner; Producers: GiGi “Doc” Reed MD, Jacques Kepner Music: My Grandfather’s Clock, The Fox, and House of the Rising Sun […]
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(00:11):
Welcome everyone to this weekly live radio show
at KCRW
100.7
FM in lovely Coastal Brookings, Oregon.
Thank you for tuning in to this week's
exciting and fun program of Doc and Chuck.
I'm doctor Gigi, and I'm sitting alongside my
cohost, San Franci Scorschagi.
Hello, Jacques. Hey, doctor Gigi, and good afternoon

(00:34):
to our guests today and to all of
you loyal and new listeners out there. Welcome
to the Doc and Jacques Radio Variety Show.
Today is Wednesday. It's October 9th,
2024.
It's
a lovely day out there. Not too hot.
Not muggy. Well, it's definitely muggy out there.
Cloudy. Coast.
Not windy. Yeah. It's just a it's kind

(00:54):
of a nice day. It's also
oh, come on. Now did you give me
this fact it's National Moby
Cheese Day?
Are you kidding me? It is true. It's
National Moby Cheese Day. Yeah. And it is
also National Emergency Nurses Day. Okay. That's called
Emergency Nurses Day. So
you do Yeah. That one is a real
good one. You deal with emergency nurses all

(01:14):
the time. Right? Sort of. You have.
Well, you know, I'm not working in the
ER anymore, but they are working hard. It's
also what? Happy anniversary day. That's kind of
a weird one too. Oh, it's I get
it. Guess what, folks? Guess what? This is
super news for everybody. Yeah. Our loyal listeners
and all the new listeners too. What is

(01:35):
today's date? Oh, yeah. What's It's October 9th.
So last year, October 10th.
We Was our first inaugural show. Yeah. Doc
and Jock. The Doc has just started 1
year. So we've got 1 year under our
belt. Special shout out to,
to the loyal
family that supports us here and been so
nice to us. You know who you are.

(01:56):
And then, of course, the Wizards, in the
in the sound booth,
Tom Bozak and Ray Simon. Thank you, guys.
We've been it's been a a wonderful year.
Been a ride.
Yeah. Alright. So
let's let's go. Where where are you? I'm
going with the other listeners that you said
you know were who they are. Yeah. So
somebody. Okay. Niece, Kelly. Your niece, Kelly? Hey.

(02:17):
Jimbo? Yep. Jimbo.
Brother John and Patty, they're listening. Yes. Jimbo.
Janice. Janice. Hey, Janice. And Victoria. Doctor Sherry
and Chris. Hey. What's going on? A lot
of them are listening in the Midwest. Yes.
Rebecca, Dave Howland, and Clara.
Yeah. Lucas. Lucas, call home. Your mom wants
to know where you are. Yeah. We connected.
Rica
and Jaden, Jared, Grant, and Vera, of course.

(02:39):
Hey. What's going on? Scarlet,
Darwin,
Annie John. Yeah. Susie Susie is my best
in Utah. In Utah and mama. Mama and
Sam. Yep. Who am I even with put
those 2 together? Richard and Nina.
Theresa and Michael. Yeah. And Anthony. And your
new friend, Anthony. Yeah. And a lot of
others listening out there. We really appreciate you,
here on

(03:00):
the
Jacques and Doc. When are your anniversary show?
It's really Doc and Jacques, but it's okay.
Did I say Jacques and Doc? It's ladies
first. Hello. Alright. Sorry about that.
Alright. So What do you got for us?
Let's start with the MD 10, as we
usually do. Which is a weird one this
week because you don't you're not dealing with,
like, the heart, the lungs, the pain. No.
We're just doing

(03:20):
weird,
fun, cool stuff that most of you, you
actually found. Good job. I found some of
these. Yeah. Very nice. Deep search on it.
So listen to this. Humans shed about 600,000
skin particles every hour. Oh, that's
kinda gross. Yeah. If you count that up,
it's about
£50, £50,000

(03:40):
in a lifetime. £50
of shed dermis.
Okay. Yeah. So this is taste in my
mouth. This is important because we have dead
skin outside, so we are not attractive to
the bacteria or other things that wanna infect
us. They cannot bore through the skin that
is dry and dead. Ew. It has to

(04:01):
be a wet, warm opening for them to
go in. Yikes. So we are constantly shedding
the system. They they're they're on us. Right?
They cling to us, but they just don't
Right. They can't go anywhere. Unless you possibly
get a cut on your finger. Right. They're
waiting.
And they're waiting as far as I, what
is this? Sepsis. And what are some of
the? Oh, just skin infections. Yeah. Cellulitis.

(04:21):
Diet green,
that bacterial?
Yeah. Okay. Could, can be. Okay.
Next one. Teratoma tumors Oh,
weird ones. Can't grow their own hair and
teeth. Okay. A teratoma tumor, is it a
common tumor you Teratoma
tumors are very rare, but they're I have
seen one. It's a very rare type of

(04:42):
tumor
that can contain it. So it's a ball
pretty much and they can contain fully developed
tissues and organs such as hair, teeth,
muscle,
bone.
Get it. Often, they have hair and teeth.
Are they always cancers?
Well, there are tumor. So it's it's a
can they're usually benign, so it's a tumor

(05:02):
more than a cancer.
They are found everywhere, but most common in
the tailbone,
ovaries, testicles.
Girl. They are usually made out of germ
cells. So when we're first being made as
an egg and a sperm, those are germ
cells. And,
when we grow up, these cells develop onto
something, but some kind of stay behind and

(05:24):
then they wanna be something else, and so
they become the little teratoma tumor. So I
might have a Tommy, the teratoma
testicle tumor. T top 2. Growing within oh,
my goodness. God gracious. Alright. You probably don't.
But it's about the,
saliva.
This is weird. This is getting The average
human produces over 25,000

(05:46):
squirts
of saliva in a lifetime.
Good god. That's enough. Find out how much
it is. I found out twos. What do
we call worthless Yum yum yum. You know
what? So we if people don't know what
saliva is, usually they do. But it is
spit or drool, and it's mostly made up
of water,
some electrolytes, mucus, white blood cells. But most

(06:08):
really most importantly, it has enzymes in it.
So,
stuff that starts the digestion process. It's big
on the,
digestion. It's a Yeah. So it's the first
step of especially 1st. Sugar. Yeah. Yeah. I
remember why was I drooling over you when
I first met Jade.
So weird. It's like, yeah, I'm on our
first date and I was drooling. Okay. That

(06:29):
really sounds unbelievable. Because I ate a candy.
And did you know that a handshake
carries more germs than a kiss? A handshake.
Yes. And why do you think that is?
Because wet and slimy? No. No.
I don't know. Tell me why. Well, because
the saliva, as I said, has digestive enzymes
in it. So we don't have a lot
of bacteria in our mouth because our digestive

(06:51):
enzymes
digest
started yeah. Start the digestion. I see. But
on our hands We don't have a lot
of spit unless you're So maybe it's smart
to lick your fingers at, but not really.
Oh, yes. See, that's why we lick our
fingers after a meal. Oh, God. I don't.
I've never seen anybody
your mama. I love mama so much. But
that day, we served her that good food.

(07:12):
She went at it. She liked that meal
very much.
And it was kinda quick. Okay. Tell us
about sleep and starvation, doctor.
Lack of sleep can kill you quicker than
starvation.
Say that again. So if you don't sleep,
you you die be any days in a
row or many days in a row, you
die before you die from starvation not eating

(07:35):
the many days in a row. That's what
they found out. That's what
What was that place down in, where we
had our prison?
Oh, what's the name of that prison military
prison we had? Yeah. Anybody? Okay. We don't
know. Yeah. I don't know how to call.
But they would keep people off for days
just by moving them, shaking them, loud music
Yeah. Bright lights, and they couldn't sleep And
guess what happened? Yeah. They go insane first.

(07:57):
They go insane then. Yeah. That is Poor.
In the US, 2 out of 3 people
have poor vision. We're all wearing glasses in
this room. Yeah. John and GFG. And we
are all and plus a 2 engineer. That's
5 business. We're 25. So
hey. Wait a minute. You told me you're
23.
K. So we're all have 2 out of
3 Americans have poor vision. Alright. Yeah. So

(08:18):
this is, this is a fun, fun one
coming up. Humans share 60 60% of their
DNA, not genes, but DNA. Okay. We've learned
about genes. With bananas.
With bananas?
Oh.
96%
with pigs. 96%
of our DNA is shared with pigs? Mhmm.
99% with chimps.
Woah. So we're kinda closer about banana?

(08:41):
We're not closer to a banana than a
chimp, but we're closer to a chimp than
a pig. Wow. Now but remember, not everything
DNA is
a gene. Only 1% of the DNA is
actually gene that codes for something. K. We
had our DNA talk a few weeks ago,
I wanna say. That was great. The 3
and me and friends. And what is that
strongest muscle in the body? This tongue is

(09:02):
the strongest muscle. Coated with saliva.
Everybody has a unique tongue print.
Wow. Identical twins do not have the same
tongue tongue print. Nor do they have the
same? The fingerprints.
They also don't have the same fingerprints, but
they do smell the same we found out
the other day. Okay. That's a lot of
them. Identical twins smell identical. Yes. Now wait.

(09:25):
I'm an identical twin. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not
gonna go over to Rica and say, hey.
Hey. Hey. America. What's going on? Shnuli, can
I smell you, please?
Oh my goodness. Alright. Well, thank you, doctor.
That was a nice abbreviated different path that
we followed this time. Yeah. Let's get right
on to our guest here. Welcome, everyone. Today,
doctor Gigi and I are pleased to be

(09:46):
speaking with no one else than Lon Goddard,
a multi talented singer, a songwriter, guitarist,
who for many years has been on the
periphery of our coastal consciousness,
whether it's serenading the stages of local nightclubs
or performing in theatrical plays or just hamming
it up at the many festivals in our
lovely seaside region.

(10:08):
Well, I think for certain, Lon Goddard is
very, very talented. He is an, artist in
his own unique way.
And today,
we're gonna find out what makes this local
iconic personality
tick tock tick tock. After we hear some
of his stories
and his background and president endeavors, Lon will
sing some of his songs. Whoo. These songs

(10:31):
are more than mere entertainment. They're the poetry
of our shared experiences, the soundtrack
to our collective memories. And in an age
of fleeting trends,
Lon Goddard
reminds us of that the enduring power of
storytelling
through song and music. So get ready to
dive into

(10:51):
the world of this classic singer, songwriter, and
guitarist
extraordinary.
Welcome, Lon Goddard, to the doc at Jacque
Radio Variety Show. Welcome.
Greetings. I'm so very good to be
here, Yance.
I understand we are having an Indian restaurant
opening very soon.
Wait a minute. I thought that was Russian,

(11:12):
but then I think it's in in from
a Hindu, is that there gonna be an
Indian restaurant to come opening them.
It's National Cut the Cheese Day. No. Bold
the cheese. Oh, I make mistake.
Problem there. Oh, my goodness gracious. Okay. Start
us out loud.
Where were you born and raised?

(11:34):
Well, now that's an ambiguous question.
I prefer to say that I was
born in the UK, but that's not actually
true. I was hatched in
the regrettable state of Ohio. Uh-oh.
Well, sorry. So wait a minute. You were
actually hatched there. You actually were born, but
you were UK your parents were UK

(11:55):
folks? And you and my family?
From Ohio. They grew up in an orphanage,
and they married,
soon after they were 5 years old.
I hear I hear the background. I hear
our engineers out there kind of chuckling. Well,
cool. So Okay. So tell us the connection
to England and the UK.

(12:16):
Well, the connection was made pretty much by
accident. A friend of mine I went to
school with,
we subsequently got a flat, when we graduated,
and he managed to somehow rig a course
in drama at Manchester University in England. Oh,
nice. And so he just announced one day
in the flat that he was leaving to

(12:38):
go to England,
and I said, you're going to leave me
alone in this flat?
He said, yep. I'm going, and I had
nothing else to do. So I said, well,
my folks have got a $1,000
in a trust fund from an accident that
I was in as a kid.
If they'll release it, then I'm going too
because I got nothing better to do at

(12:58):
all.
And so we
we found some crazy Russian who was driving
across from Sacramento to New York. Oh. He
needed somebody to help drive and pay for
gas, motels, and we headed for New York.
We booked passage on the New Amsterdam,
and we went to Southampton,
and that's how the story began. The rest

(13:20):
is historical.
I was 17. And how long did you
stay?
25 years. Dang.
So you just got back last
month?
Yes. I'm actually only 37 now. That's my
line. Darn it.
Okay. So you're now in England, 25 years.
What what year did you arrive in England?

(13:40):
1966.
Oh. So Vietnam was going on. Was that
a better place to be anyways?
Right? Yep. I guess I was over there
while everything was going on. I wasn't even
here for the, Haight Ashbury
Oh, damn. Period in San Francisco. I missed
it. Yeah. But I was there for the
swinging sixties in London.
The swinging sixties? In London? You know, she

(14:01):
worked Gigi worked at the hospital in WEXAM.
Right? Yep. Just outside of London. 2011, you
were already gone, I'm guessing. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah?
Well, you see, we got a lot of
common, don't we? Alright. So I know when
we got there. So okay. This is I
think I told that before. But anyway, so
when I came to the state when I
lived in England, they said, where are you
from? And, you know, I am from Germany.

(14:22):
So I say Germany.
It's like, that was the end of it.
But then I caught drift that I should
say, I'm from the USA. I'm from America.
And they all loved me. Yeah. Because Germans.
Germans? They didn't Yeah. I was from Germany
too, but for just a little while, but
not very long.
It was your time. Just I'd like to

(14:42):
hear mama. Mama mama talks like that. So
when did you,
when did you when did you land in
Brookings?
Oh, that will be 19,
92. Wow. So you've been around here for
a while. Care. Yeah. That's why there's so
much reference to he he could bump we
was watching you the other night. You were
talking about everybody. Some of these people that

(15:04):
I've just heard glimpses of their names, like
our guy, Elmo,
and, some people like that that you were
rubbing elbows with back in the day. Elmo?
Tickle me, Elmo?
No. Elmo That was the other one. No.
Yeah. The bloke won an Oscar, you know,
for High Noon. Yeah. High Noon. That's right.
He won an Oscar. But Elmo what's his

(15:24):
last name? Come on. We've sold Williams. William.
Elmo Williams. Yes. Yeah. You can find it
on a pedestal in Azalea Park. Yes. You
can. And he built it. Nice big quote
by me in bronze.
Is that really? Okay. Alright. And there's also
that big check out. I always thought to
myself, I've got a headstone when I go
already, so he's done. Well, hello. That's our

(15:45):
last question. We already know it. So that
your your headstone will say he's done or
he's gone? We don't ask a question anymore
now. Hazel, what am I guessing? Okay. We've
always asked all of our guests, what is
your tombstone gonna say? But this this week,
we still have I got one of them
too. Okay.
Yeah. It's gonna say,
you could think about it. We're not asking
for a minute exactly. Can't remember. There was

(16:07):
nothing he couldn't do, so he didn't.
That's a good one too. That is a
good one. Good one. There's also the Capella
by the Sea. That's one thing that Elmo
built for his beloved Oh. He did. He
he was a great fella. Oh, man. I
know who you're talking about. Character. There's a
lot of people listening. All local people. He
was one of the first that I met
when I got here. Right.
292. And did you arrive with a guitar

(16:29):
in your back pocket? I had a guitar
with me. Alright. It was a bit larger
to Yeah. A little bit bigger. Be fitting
in the pocket. But,
I came up here for no particular reason
other than riding point for a sister of
mine who'd passed through town and described it
as a lovely little bird that she'd like
to quit selling real estate in Los Angeles
and come all the way up here with

(16:50):
her kids and raise them in a proper
little town like this one. Wow. You know
how many people go through here and say,
Oh, what a nice little town. Yeah. Absolutely.
I'm not here.
So I said, Well,
I'll go ride point then
and,
see what it's like because I wasn't doing
anything yet again back in the States.
Yeah. That's two stories. I came and stayed

(17:10):
in the Chetco Inn when it was still
a lodge for a couple of weeks. She
didn't come, so I got myself a flat
in Old County Road,
and she didn't come. Oh my gosh. So
I then fell in with a fellow who
was doing a weekly TV show here at
the on the educational channel Cool. Called Coast
Stories, which I proceeded to almost take over,

(17:30):
which is how I met Elmo.
It's true. And, she didn't come.
And then
I, did a 20 minute, interview with Elmo
because Coast Stories was about interesting people on
the coast. Cool. So I was the interviewer
and my other half was a cameraman. Right.
The 2 of us paired up and went
everywhere, and I've got tons and tons of
footage. I did a 20 minute interview with

(17:52):
Elmo out on his gazebo at his home
and I've still got that. And that's how
I met him. And my sister never came.
She never came. She ended up never coming
up here. Well I saw his house. Somebody
pointed out where his house was. It's not
been sold many years, but it was right
perched out right over that cliff. Right? Yep.
Part of it's
it was a gorgeous place, many a party

(18:13):
in there, and Elmo was a splendid cook,
so he he just provided for everybody all
the time. A real character too, in his
costumes and his dress and his Yes. And
his And a terrific speaker.
Wow. How cool is that? Oh, well. You
missed that
that part of the legend,
but you were here at 92.
It is now 2024.

(18:34):
You still like it as much as you
did?
Well, that's an unfair question.
I'm not sure. You might as well say,
do you like the world as well as
you used to?
Yes or no. You're right. That is
Alright. So tell us, have you always been
into music and the music business?

(18:55):
Is that what you have done all your
life? Music? Hey. Can you hear me? We
are we're running into some technical
issues here. Our guest is not hearing doctors.
No. Say something. No. What can you hear?
Did you okay. My question was have you
always done music or have you
spread away somewhere?
Well, since I was probably

(19:18):
about 10
when my
parents forced me to take steel guitar lessons.
Forced you?
Well, they obliged me to do it. I
wasn't that fond of the idea
to have a guitar sitting on your lap.
But it's usually a piano they force you.
Yeah. So a good No. This fellow came
to the door. He was

(19:39):
a music teacher. He was, flogging his courses,
and, steel guitar was one of the main
things he was pitching. And so I got
into that.
I was stuck with that for 6 years.
Wow.
So you learned
slowly I learned how to play guitar in
your lap in an open tuning.
Okay.
And so that was at age 10 and

(20:00):
you have never veered off. That was your
Well, I immediately decided that, when rock and
roll came in, that I needed to get
off this open tuning thing in my lap.
And so I
got the stamp books from my mother. I
think they were blue chip stamps. Blue chip,
green? Yeah. And green and the green shield.

(20:20):
Right. The other ones were Right.
But at any rate, she allowed me to
take her books of stamps and buy a
guitar which I did. And it has, no
brand on it but nonetheless, I did
Guitar
101 best I could. At that point, we
had Bob Dylan and early Donovan, people like
that coming in. I was very interested
in in, folk picking,

(20:40):
picking by with the fingers, finger picking. Yeah.
So,
I had that for a little while. And
then just before we left
for the UK,
I went into Sacramento with that guitar thinking
I better get a better one. So I
went to the pawn shop
and, he had these guitars on the wall,
and they had prices. And I said, well,

(21:02):
I'll I'll get that one.
And he said, I'll give it to you
for $65
with a case, but you are and in
trade for your
nameless guitar. It was a 1956
Martin D 28.
Today, it's probably worth about $20. My
And that's what I went to Britain with,
not knowing what it was. Right. Okay. So

(21:23):
the one you got, you're saying? The one
you got was the
that was the one that was the Martin?
That's the one that I went to Britain
with. I no longer have it,
but that's a sad story. Yeah. That was
one that was stolen or something.
No. You burned it on stage? It was
my own fault.
I sold it off. Yeah, it happens.

(21:43):
One of those things. I sold it off
to be
to join an electric band that was when
within the record company made up of employees.
So they were having a bit of a
lark. I didn't have any electrical equipment. So
I sold the guitar to a Bluegrass fellow
from Newcastle
for, I think, it was about £800. And
with that, I bought all kinds of equipment,

(22:04):
PV amp,
Gibson SG guitar, another Gibson J50
acoustic to take the place of the missing
Martin,
a,
Fender Jazz Bass
Wow. And,
a whole bunch of other stuff anyway, just
for the price of that guitar.
But the band,
dare I say what we called ourselves What?

(22:24):
Tell me. Split Beaver.
Split Beavers. Okay. I know that's another ambiguity.
Yeah. But,
perhaps tasteless. It lasted about 3 or 4
weeks and dissolved. And there I was with
all of the equipment. You split
up. We split up. Quite so. The Split
Beavers split up. Boy, did we split up.
We partured ways. And,

(22:45):
I only had
a Gibson J50 Acoustic
because the rest of the stuff meant nothing
to me then.
So I sold it all back off. Never
did like the Gibson.
Eventually, I sold it off and
picked up the Martin that I've got now,
which is much newer and
nothing like that pre 69 one I used
to. That's a Martin you've done. I'm looking

(23:07):
into Martin over there. Wow.
How cool. Very cool. Where where else have
you traveled too long? You said Germany? You've
been there for a while? Yes. Well,
being in the record business over there,
which I
was, I'd have to start and tell you
how I got there. Yeah. Tell me. We
got 5 minutes of break and the break
is just gonna take a minute. Okay. I'll

(23:27):
be very fast.
When I got there, I went to the
university with my friend that I mentioned. My
friend's name was Ivan,
and he started his course.
I went to the folk club there. There
were people who had guitars and were playing
folk music. Very interesting. They said I should
go to London. That's where the action was,
which is probably about, 200 miles down the
road. I used to hitchhike every weekend down

(23:50):
to London and then come back. Wow. And
then down to London and come back because
I took English and American literature
course,
signed up for it, did not take it,
seriously.
And then I eventually went down to London
and did not come back Oh, wow. And
stayed down there, and I met,
a folk singer called Roy Harper, who is
hugely popular

(24:11):
still,
at age 84 in, Europe,
is well known here.
Stephen Harper. Anything. Roy Harper isn't known here
anything like he is in Europe. Stayed with
him,
got inspired by him. He let me
design his first LP cover, play on a
couple of his first tracks, and then I

(24:32):
was suddenly
a folk singer
Wow. How cool. With a terrible voice. Well,
you're still you're still holding true to those
colors because you do sing. I could say
if anybody's a folk singer in town, it's
you. But the thing is, I was picked
up by a social worker called Judith Piappe.
She would, hang around the clubs and pick
up people who she felt she could put
on the right track if their life was

(24:53):
going astray. How cool. Or if she was
could find some way of improving
what they do, then she would. And she
was very honest in that. I was only
about, 3 months behind Paul Simon who she
had also picked up. Oh, really? In 'sixty
5. So I was given a bed in
her in her place. There were 6 or
8 other people in a little dorm that
she had. And then,

(25:13):
she said, eventually, I think what you she
was German. Yeah. She said, I think what
you I have what you need to do,
and you need to run the folk club
which will open in,
in the Saint Martin's in the crypt in
Trafalgar Square. You will run that for me.
I will have the priest who's just got
his new parish, and he will run. He
will come in, and he will interview you.

(25:34):
She sent this priest in to see me
who was, extremely gay, and he was, oh,
you're exactly what I need. Bess, you should
be running my phone club. Oh, I love
the way you said this, and now you'll
pick this little thing that you diddy that
you just did.
And so I said to Judith, I don't
think so. This is not what I need
to do. I have this idea, since I
used to be able to draw a caricature,

(25:55):
so buying the music papers, which come out
every week, and I will draw pictures of
those people who are photographed, those famous pop
stars, and I will go to each of
the offices
and see if I can get hired
doing cartoons for them. Yeah. So then she
said, well, I think someone else can use
your bed.
So I had to go

(26:15):
and I did go around to the papers.
I was hired by Rick O'Meara
and I eventually became a staff writer
and
a pop journalist. Dang. So this is what
I've heard him. Heard you were you were
out there,
journaling a lot of things, checking, and you've
got to see a lot of acts. You've
got a lot of It was a party.
It was a play and I was a

(26:36):
character in this crazy play. What year was
that when you got that job? From 66
onwards. Oh my goodness.
So every night was
a concert of some sort or a party
of some sort. Every day or evening there
was a reception for somebody.
Every afternoon we were in the pub, which
was, of course, the lifeline of all information.
All the pubs were

(26:57):
the,
circulatory
system of information. Yeah. The Internet of So
we're always in the pub and then it
was party, party, party, party. Home at 2
am, didn't have to be in the office
until another 10:30 or so, and another day
begins.
Wow. Do you have all these drawings still
to this day? I have a number of
them.
I,
when I first got the position as a

(27:19):
staffer,
the editor said, is there anyone you want
to send a subscription to? And I said,
yes, send one to my folks in Elk
Grove in Sacramento, which he did. They kept
them all. Oh, no. So I've got all
300 issues. Wow. So you're just talented. You
can't oh, 3 Is that where you were
kind of Yeah. Was that where you were
kind of based as a kid in Elk
Grove? I have some friends in Elk Grove.
Graduated

(27:40):
from school. That's like 400,000 people now. It's
so huge. It's massive. It was a tiny
thing where the roads were unpaved.
Wow. It is so massive. I have good
friends there in Elk Grove. And I go
down there and I just get lost. So
you don't have so you don't have any,
classes in art? You are just talented? Is
is that I haven't gotten any training. Well,
well, I was an average student, so I

(28:01):
haven't gotten any training. Wow. That's pretty cool.
But I am in a class by myself,
you know.
I mean, that's that's for sure. I mean,
there are professionals, semi professionals, amateurs, and then
there's me. Yeah. Listen, we've you've been on
our radar for a year, and I'm glad
when you finally came in here on our
anniversary date. Yeah. Special, special time here. We're
having a conversation with Lon Goddard. It is

(28:22):
at mid break time, and we are through
the
oh, am I a couple minutes early? You're
a minute early. I am a whole well,
I'm just gonna go right in. I'm gonna
plow through this. Okay. Okay. We're almost at
the halfway mark of this edition of Doc
and Jacques on our anniversary special.
You are tuned in to KCIW
100.7
FM in Brookings, Oregon. We are proudly a

(28:43):
noncommercial community radio station. And as I say
each week, regardless if you sing you do
have a voice, and that is what a
community radio station like KCIW
100.7
does best for
its caring family, and you could become a
part of that family. You really can. Gigi
United,
thank the the universe for all the people
that we were in touch with and that

(29:04):
we have landed this unique position that we
find ourselves in and get it to interview
such fascinating characters such as Lon Goddard and
today. Mhmm. Folks, you could reach out and
become part of that family too. Get out,
get involved. You could contribute. You could donate
your time. You could donate your money for
any amount is is welcome here. We are
a 501c3

(29:25):
nonprofit radio station. And if you'd like to
find out more, please visit us at kciw.org
and find out more about it. We're back
in the studio with Lon Goddard who is
telling us some fascinating
stories.
We knew you were a conversant guy.
We knew you were an interesting guy.

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And,
boy, we are in for a treat here
today
with hearing some of these stories. Gigi, you
have any more questions you wanted to tie
up? Yeah. Well, not yeah. Well, I before
we started the show, we talked a tiny
bit and I wanna know
generally, have you ever met or played with
any famous folks?

(30:07):
Only Roy Harper. I'd say no.
Well, you met I haven't. Well, you met
like Wait. Dire Straits, you Dire Straits. No.
Well, you see at that point, I was,
a journalist.
So I wasn't playing. Oh, not playing, but
you met him. I was either a journalist
or I was a PR. I switched back
and forth between those two things. I either
was working on a newspaper or I was

(30:28):
working for a record company. On the newspaper,
I would interview people, and for the record
company, I would make sure that people like
the former me interviewed
the stars that I represented.
How cool. So who did you So the
guitar wasn't much in the background.
So who did you interview or who did
you meet that was somebody that we would

(30:48):
or I would know? It's more of a
case of if you mentioned somebody
Then that's easier. Oh. A lot of people
came through. Yeah. A lot of people. So
any of the stones?
All of them except Brian Jones.
Oh, wow. I was a little too late
for that by days.
Wow. Where he drowned.
Yeah. I I I have to rethink this

(31:10):
whole thing about,
the health and exercise since
Keith Richards has outlived Richard Simmons.
So I gotta really rethink this exercise for
Richmond. That's how I dig Keith Richards. He
Yeah. He's
a he's a very together person
who has an image and will very quickly

(31:30):
tell you that he's absolutely clean of substances,
which he is and has been for 20
years. Yes. But he said, I've got an
image and I've got to keep it up.
I'm Keefe. Right. Exactly. Have fun. Any of
the Beatles?
I did not see John Lennon, but the
other 3, yes. Interesting.
Wow. 2 of them are still How about
Pink Floyd? I spent a long longest time

(31:50):
with George Harrison,
in a small booth in Apple Records where
he played the White Album
and went through every track on it and
explained everything about it. So that was rather
a long period with him. Right? How about
Supertramp?
No. You got me there. England? I wasn't
really fond of

(32:11):
bands of that nature, so I didn't really
love them. They were a little bit later
anyways. That's more your age. She's only, you
know, she says 29,
24,
whatever. Wow. This is, you should be interviewing
us, I suppose.
Okay. Now let's see. Where were you born,
Jacques?
Not such a French thing that's really
I just always defer off to the German.

(32:32):
Hello.
Alright, doc. Give me a question. Give him
a question. Okay. Tell us about
songwriting. Do you write your own songs?
Well, funny you should ask that. I've written
hundreds of songs,
but I can't read music, so I don't
know what they are. Oh, that was one

(32:53):
of our questions. Yeah. I often turn on
the radio and think, I might have written
that.
Darn
it. That's what they got away. Most of
my songs
didn't make my own grade,
so
they wound up in piles.
And, the one song that I finally felt

(33:14):
did,
which you aren't allowed to do here because
it contains the word beep and the other
word beep beep. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. So
we're not going to be playing that one.
No. But I thought that one passed muster,
and people do request it. Yes. We liked
it. We liked it, but because of its
has those couple of swear words in it,
we can't do it. And

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the engineer's looking at me right now. He's
lowered his glasses. Everything's good. So, okay. So
you so you sort of write the music,
but you also sort of write the the
the lyrics. Right?
Yes. I have piles and piles of lyrics
as well. Okay. And I can read, so
those have been lost. Oh, I thought you
said you could you can't read. You can't

(33:55):
read. You can't read. Yes. We ask every
musician, do you do you, do you read
music? You'd be surprised. I'd say 70% say
no. They yeah. They can. 70% of the
artists that we've had in here are musicians.
Now do you have do you have something
called synesthesia
that you,
for example,
that you hear a sound or intonation
and then you see colors or a movement

(34:17):
or anything
of the like. No, you don't. Okay. Okay.
That was strange to me too. She sees
I'm sure. I understand. If she sees the
color orange, she sees the number 24.
She sees the, number 93,
she sees black.
She sees it's really bizarre. It's just it's
something It's totally normal for me. Yeah. We
had somebody here

(34:40):
Dan Sedgwick. He sees if something is an
e flat, then he sees
the brownish or something. And I thought, that
is really weird.
But now I'm thinking that's probably what you
guys think about me seeing, you know, 24
or That's weird. We thought it was weird.
If you don't have it, it seems weird.
Alright. You have been a part of the
Brookings
scene now since 92, since you arrived. Did

(35:02):
you start picking up and and start playing
in
these pubs and bars and restaurants here in
town in 92? Or is this something that
evolved slowly slower?
I was essentially in the theater when I
got here first. To be fair. Pardon? A
friend of mine, Tom Jones, who runs the
Brookings Signs and Graphics here,
was one of the first people that I

(35:23):
met when I came to town
because we had graphics in common since I
was a cartoonist. Yeah. And, he said,
There's a place in town here that's got
a whole batch of weirdos. You belong with
them.
And so he introduced me to the Chetco
Pelican Players. You were around back then, Yeah.
That's where I met you for the first

(35:44):
time at the syndromic. They were. Yes. I'm
probably
number 4 on longest standing members still alive.
Wow. How cool is that? Well, good. And
you look good. If you look good, you
sound good. So you started playing in
the venue. And then,
I mean, how many places do you play
at every year? You're always, you're like the

(36:05):
iconic figure, right? You stand out.
You got a good look. You got a
good verb to you. You sing. Nice voice.
You tell your stories. You play guitar. Plenty.
And he's always wearing his his unique hat.
We're not wearing them today in the studio
because we're wearing earphones.
But what is your favorite, what was your
what was your favorite place you ever played
that's no longer here, here in Brookings?

(36:26):
Oh, that's no longer here? Yeah. I've only
been here 4 years, so I don't know.
That's a surprise. Think smack.
Do I know that it's not here anymore?
I mean, COVID took a lot of places
out. Right?
I don't think I think all the places
that I played are still here. Okay.
At least well, the favorites are still here.

(36:47):
Alright. I'm sure there are ones that have
gone by the wayside,
but I can't remember what they are
because the ones that exist here Okay. Surpassed
them. What are your what are your favorite
local places like? Oh, I love to play
the Kuontay and Misty Mountain.
Why? Because they They have been supporting me
for a long time and

(37:07):
I love them both very much.
And, I like to play jambalaya down in
Crescent City, Tortuga, up in Gold Beach. I
do like to get around.
And,
we didn't know you played jambalaya. We just
we were just I had a slight pair.
And Jen Schmidt on my show down.
Yeah. I have one I
I believe I,

(37:28):
heard a bit of that. Yeah. I'm doing
that next month again.
Oh, okay. So we'll come down. So, yeah,
come on. We'll we'll come down. Now where
do you where are you playing in the
next few weeks? Do you have anything lined
up? I'll be doing the Elks Lodge on
Friday. Which one? Here? This one here. Oh,
yeah. That was 1939,
I believe it is. I thought 34.
34. Thank you. High school. That was a

(37:50):
good year. I think. I think.
And then I'll be doing,
the Kuontay on Wednesday.
So you're stable at Kuontay? That's where we
saw you last week. Yes. I was gonna
do that. And then I believe Misty comes
up on the 25th.
So I, and I do a lot for
assisted living
facilities. Really? I play for,

(38:10):
for the dementia wards.
Oh, wow. In that way, I can play
songs like Me and My Gal, Bicycle Bill
for 2, You Are My Sunshine, and things
like that which really put some sparkle in
people's eyes. Yes. Yes. Music is very powerful.
I do more of that than you could
imagine.
I've probably
got I've got 15 or 20 I've got

(38:31):
15 dates this month for certain. Woah. Wow.
And a great batch of those are are
for
the, memory awards. Right. And you're volunteering for
that. You just do that for the love
of it and,
yep. That's cool. Very nice. It's a good
thing to do. Yeah. It is a good
thing to do. Yeah. True. True. True. True.
And then we,
let's see, the big You're up in, where

(38:53):
do you play? At Tortuga? You said that's
coming up? Yep. I played
that just last week.
At the Tortuga? At the, Tortuga Mexican restaurant.
Right. Mhmm. Which we have seen, but never
been in there. So where can people find
out where you play so they can get
their schedule ready? Oh, I'm solidly on Facebook
and by email, but mostly Facebook is where

(39:14):
everything is, traded. Lon Goddard. Now tell us
about your wife, Claire. Under my own name.
How long have you and Claire been together?
Did you meet? Oh, well, she's not my
significant other half. Yes. In part. She's my
lady, my roadie, my sound equipment lady.
She's, my driver. There you go. She's my,
everything. She's my life's blood actually. Nice. Without

(39:35):
her eye crumble. You see like a vampire
in the sunlight. I'm finished.
Go, Clara. I remember last week at Coontay,
we were talking afterwards and in the background
there was Clara picking up all your equipment
and putting everything away while you were out
chatting it up. Yes. She's very kind in
letting me do that. I set up
and then I
do the gig, and then afterwards she lets

(39:56):
me talk to people while she cleans up.
Right on. Do you also do private events?
Sure.
When people ask for it.
I'm I've done quite a lot of them.
I'm fine with birthdays, weddings,
parties, whatever.
I can usually switch around the,
the
songs to match what the event requires. Yeah.

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Do you still do the second Saturdays? That's
what I think right. 1st I still do
the Art Walk. 2nd Saturday Art Walk. Yes,
it is. That's where I believe I Albeit,
Kim Devine's Kim's Garden Party. Oh, yeah.
This this upcoming one. Well, maybe if we're
in town, we will come by because we've
been, Kim's been on the show. Yeah. And
that's where I think I first met you.
I think you first came on my radar
about 4 years ago, and I believe you

(40:38):
were playing at it could have been was
this Scott? It was another one back it
was cool. We walked to the small river.
There you were. Oh, when we went. It
was Yeah. No. This was before I met
him. And I trade off, with, Steve Nelson
in doing the
Democratic
headquarters,
for the art walk as well. No. I
did not. It's his it's his stint this

(40:58):
time, and then I'm on
right after we find out what happens in
November.
Yeah. Everything's putting hold on that. I hope
that everything will come out nice. Are you
busier in the summer months obviously? Maybe
Yep. This is kind of Yep. Entering the
I get, things down at the port and
outdoor events, in the summer, which is great.
Yeah. Right. Do you get better with age?

(41:20):
Do I? Pardon? Did you get better? What
day have you gotten better with age?
You've gotten, I said the word. Well, I've
become,
wobblier.
In lots of ways, yes. In lots of
ways, I've passed through phases of playing
and,
types of music that I was fascinated by.

(41:41):
I've kind of run the gamut, and there
are things I might have missed along the
way that I find more interesting than I
did,
prior.
So,
yeah, I'd say I've just changed rather than
getting better. I'm probably slicker, a little slicker.
A slicker. A slicker. Well,
you are, like I said, an iconic figure

(42:01):
in our in our region.
Everybody knows your name. You're super talented.
You're quite a character,
quite an interesting fellow that's been around. I
have a lot of a lot of saliva.
But we all do. 2 swimming pools. All
right. If you wanna start getting ready to
play some songs for us, we'd like to
hear that. And if we have time after
you've sang a couple songs and talked about

(42:22):
them, then we will, when you come back,
we have more questions for you. Folks, we've
have been interviewing Lon Goddard,
extraordinarily
talented
artist here in our region
that has done so many things and is
such a fascinating person.
Yeah. He's gonna sing a song. And what's
that song gonna be today, Lars? I'll start
with 1 since we have to be copyright

(42:44):
free. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's good.
I thought I'd start with one that a
lot of people may remember from their youth
called My Grandfather's Clock.
My Grandfather's
Clock by Ron Alon Goddard. It's copyright free.
Okay. Good.
Let's get this right.

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Now my grandfather's
clock was too tall for the shell,
so it stayed
90 years on the floor.
It was taller
by half
than the old man himself,
though it weighed not a penny weighed
more.

(43:37):
It was bought
on the morn
of the day that he was born,
and was always
his treasure
and pride.
But it stopped
short,
never to go again
when the old
man
died.

(44:01):
Now my grandfather
said
that of those he could hire,
not a servant so faithful
he found,
for it wanted nothing,
just time to be wound.

(44:21):
And it stayed
in his place,
not a frown upon its face.
And its hands never hung
by its side,
but it stopped
short,
never to go again
when the old
man
died.

(44:42):
Then it rang
an alarm
in the dead of the night,
an alarm that 4 years had been dumb.
And it's clear that his spirit
was plumbing
for flight,
and the hour of departure
had come.

(45:02):
Still that
cluck kept the chime
of this soft and muffled chime, and we
solemnly
stood by his side.
Then it stopped
short,
never to go again
when the old
man
died.

(45:23):
Yes. It stopped
short,
never to go again
when the old
man
died.

(45:44):
We'll tick the top tick tock.
Yay.
I apologize. A bum note in there. That's
a I heard a bum note in there.
Are you kidding me? Okay. Was not a
bum as far as that. Beautiful. I love
that song. It's a Have you did you
know that? I Did you? No. I've heard
it several times before in my life. Really?
I've heard of it. It just makes me
sad. I thought I might ring a bell

(46:05):
or 2.
Yeah. There we go. I'm ringing now the
bell of, you know, bing bing bing dong
dong.
I, it's emotional.
So it's, it's one of those memorable ones
that I like. Oddly enough, it's, it goes
down very well in the assisted living places
too. Even though it refers to the old
man dying Yes. Those folks aren't particularly

(46:26):
worried about that. Yeah. They love the song.
They remember it. That's cool. Alright. What else
have we got now?
We have a little song called The Fox,
which is a little livelier, but That's when
I called her the first time I saw
And it well, it's about a fox. What
more can I say?

(46:46):
Yeah. Lan Goddard here at KCAW study.
Now the fox went out on a chilly
night. He prayed for the moon to give
him light. He had many a mile to
go that night before he reached the town.
Old,
town, old,
town, oh, we had many a mile ago

(47:08):
that night before we reached the town, oh.
So we run till they come to a
great big thing, the ducks and the geese
were kept there, and he said a couple
of you were gonna grease my chin before
I leave this town.
Oh, town, oh, town, oh, well, a couple

(47:28):
of you were gonna grease my chin before
I leave this
town, no. So he grabbed the great goose
by the neck, and he slung the duck
across his back, and he didn't mind the
quack, quack, quack, all the legs all angling

(47:51):
down. Oh,
down, oh, down, oh, well,
he didn't mind the quack, quack, quack, all
the legs all angling down.
Oh,

(48:12):
now the old girl jumped up off the
bed and out the window, she popped her
head. She said, John John, the goose is
gone. The fox is on the town. Old
town, old town. Oh, well, John John, the
goose is gone. The fox is on the
town.

(48:33):
So Johnny run up atop the hill, and
he blow his on both loud and shrill.
The fox said I'd better run like hell.
They'll all be on my jello,
jello,
jello. Well, the fox said I'd better run
like hell. Well, I'll be on my tail.

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So we run till he come to his
cozy den, and there was the little ones
8, 9, 10, and saying, daddy, you want
to go back again? It must be a
real fine town. Old
town, old
town. Oh, well, daddy, you want to go
back again. It must be a real fine
town.

(49:29):
And then the fox and his wife without
no strife, they cut up the goose with
a fork and knife. Then they'd had such
a feed in their life.
And the little ones chewed on a bone.
So
Bones, oh. Bones, oh, well. They never had
set your feet in their life. The little
ones chewed on their bones, oh.
Chewing on

(49:51):
their bones, oh.
Chewing on their bones, oh. Well, they're chewing
on their
bone. Chewing on them bone.

(50:12):
Yeah. The fox went out on a chilly
night. He prayed for the moon to give
him light. He had many a mile ago
that night before he reached the town. Oh,
town,
oh, town, oh, we had many a mile
to go that night before we reached the
town. Oh,
we had many a mile to go that

(50:33):
night before we reached the town.
Alright.
One daughter. What a trip. What a fun.
I've never heard that song before.
Before
o. Never heard it before o.
Wow. Before o. Before o. Before o. Before
o. Before o. Before 1 o. Yeah.

(50:53):
It's a foxy one. It's a foxy one.
Now we have if you want, yep.
Have a good level? If it's Tyler. Yeah.
He I'll do one more. Yeah. Alright. Let's
do one more. Why not the ubiquitous
House of the Rising Sun? Okay. There. Do
you believe that that was on here just
a little bit ago. Yes. We've I do
it a little differently. Alright. Yeah. Let's do
it. House of the Rising Sun, La Duttard

(51:14):
here in case Here we go then.

(51:36):
Now there is
a house down in New Orleans
that they call
the rising
sun,
and it's been

(52:04):
She sewed
all my new blue jeans.
My daddy,
he was
a gambling boy
in the town
holding your name.

(52:43):
Now the
only thing that a gambler needs
is a suitcase
and
a trunk.
Only
time
that he's ever satisfied
is when
he's on a drunk.

(53:04):
So, mama,
tell your children
not to do what I
have done
and spend your life
in
misery
in the house of the rising
sun.

(53:48):
Now, boys,
fill up your glasses.
Fill them up to the brim,
and raise
them hatches
4 gamblers,
boy. And be glad
that you ain't him.

(54:53):
Wow.
Very impressive. Geez. Very impressive. Nice twist to
that song. Very nice. You've been listening to
Lon Goddard here on the Jacques Doc. MG.
Radio Ready Show here in Brookings, Oregon. Lon,
where do you see yourself in a couple
of years from now?
In a couple of years from now? Here
in the area. You're not going anywhere. Right?

(55:14):
Stumbling, I suppose. Stumbling from the Stumbling down
the road. Misty Mountain to the
Chetco Brewery and back. Yes. I do hope
to get get back to Europe regularly.
Yeah. No. You just got back to Europe.
I've been doing that. England and Last 3
years, they were intended to go again in
May. Right. I seem to have this,
feeling that I,

(55:35):
culturally
have an affinity for the place.
So it's like going home, really. Have you
been to Scarborough,
up on the coast of England? It's about
4 I've been there. Yes. Yeah. We're thinking
we were looking at the There's not a
place in England that I pretty much haven't
been Yeah. Because of all the time there.
I I hear you, man. England is such

(55:55):
a such a trip, such a wonderful place.
And
it's good that you're traveling and we followed
you on Facebook.
You've been listening to
Alon Goddard here who is just so interested.
Why don't you one day write a book?
That I have in mind.
I've been hounded by people to do that
for a long time, and I tell them

(56:15):
that when my hearing finally goes, because it's
not the best now,
then I will be forced to. Yeah. Right
on.
Well, we wish you the best. We look
Very impressive. It was very awesome. Around town.
Everybody could find all you need to ask
is about anybody where Long Goddard is and
people know what you're up to and for
good reasons.

(56:36):
Thank you very much, Jacques and Gigi, for
having me. The program. Thank you. Alright.
Okay. What time is it, doctor? It is
time corner. We got what? About 3 minutes
of just a couple of great jokes.
Okay. Quote. Mhmm. Alright. What do you got?
What do you got for us? Life can
only be understood backwards,
but it must be left forward. That's a
famous I've heard that one. Give us another

(56:57):
one.
Yes, sir. Wasn't,
wasn't saliva that astrologer
down there in Arcadia?
Saliva Raine wasn't that
right? Alright, doc. Here's another quote.
Alright. Time spent in self reflection is never
wasted. It is like going on an intimate
date with yourself. Yeah. That's by the Doctor.

(57:18):
Wong, I think. Peter Wong or something. Paul
Wong. Hey, you know, doc, today I asked
my phone. I said, Siri, why am I
still single?
And it activated the self facing camera.
Hey, when I told my date that I
worked with animals, she found it really sweet.
And she asked me more about it, about
my job.

(57:38):
And I told her I was a butcher.
My my dog used to chase people on
bikes a lot. Yeah? I got so bad
that I finally had to take his bike
away.
You know, that reminds me,
I bought
some spot remover and poured it on my
dog. Now he's gone. Yeah. He's gone.

(58:00):
Spot poor spot, Scott.
Alright. What do you got there, doc? Another
word for us?
It is not so much about who you
used to be as it is about who
you choose to be.
Oh, okay. One more. You're always with yourself,
so you might as well enjoy the company.
There you go. Hey, what do you call
fake dad? What? A faux pas.

(58:24):
Today at the bank an old lady asked
me to help check her balance. Yeah? So
I pushed her over.
Why do chicken coops have 2 doors? Why?
Because if they had 4 doors they'd be
chicken sudans.
Coop agents. Coops and ants. Okay.
Give us another one. Dwell not on the
faults and shortcomings of others instead. Seek clarity

(58:47):
about your own.
Not bad. Okay. What's the Buddha one? I
like Okay. That's the Buddha one. Oh, okay.
That was it. Okay. Okay. We're talking for
that. I was sitting in traffic the other
day. Mhmm. It's probably why I got run
over.
Hey. Why do scuba divers fall backwards instead
of off a boat? Why? Because if they
fell forward, they'd fall into the boat.
Okay. I know. Alright.

(59:08):
You have been everybody, thank you for listening.
You have been listening to Doc and Jock
on KCAW
Our 1 year anniversary. Yeah. 100.7
FM in Brookings, Oregon, our 1 year anniversary
of the show. We hope you have enjoyed
the show as much as we have
and our interaction with Lon Goddard in this
season.
I very much enjoyed my time. Yeah. Yeah.

(59:30):
Yeah. It's so good. We had a great
time. Thank you, folks. Yes, ma'am. Peace and
love to you all. We have some great
guests next week. Bye bye. Bye. Bye.
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