2252 - Fantasy Questions of the NL Central - Pirates and Cardinals - Fantasy Baseball from Prospect361.com

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Speaker 1 (00:21):
Decide jasons. Everyone that's you're twelve. I'm looking the Fantasy
Baseball Live. Today is October twenty sixth, about three point
fifteen in the afternoon. As always, I'm here with my
good buddy mister Tim McLeod and Taim. I'm here in
beautiful North Carolina. It has been spect The weather has
been spectacular since we arrived. Mid seventies, low to mid seventies.

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Just perfect weather that I think it's going to rain
here for the next few days, but man, all week long,
just beautiful weather.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
So in other words, you're not missing the New Jersey weather.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Not in the New Jersey weather. So we'll be here
for another five or six weeks and the head back
for the holidays.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
And it's nice.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
When you're retired, you just yeah, kind of come and
go as you as you please. So the only thing
that was that was weird. I mean, so every the
weather conditions down here, having set how beautiful it's been,
are incredibly harsh and mold grows on everything. So the
humidity and the temperature, I mean, it's if you have

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anything that's white, so like the post and a lot
of the trim work is all white. It has not
really had a lot of mold on it. When it
came back, it was all of the stuff was covered
with mold, and so I had to get out the
powerwasher and use some kind of heavy duty solvent to
kind of get rid of the stuff. It's just you
realize how how how gross it is here, you know,

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you think of it that way.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, what's the Jamaica situation looking like for you guys?
There's a pretty big storm ruin. It's just so east
of you.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
It's south, but it's all moving out to uh to
see so oh, okay, there's a category five and hurricanes
are category one through five, five being the worst and
most destructive, and there's been multiple category fours and fives
this year. But because of the way the wind currents
have gone, they've all kind of gotten to the eastern

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part of the US and have just gone out to sea.
And besides some rain, which is what we're going to
get over the next couple of days, it hasn't been bad.
And you know, if yeah, right, if those those wind
currents were different than we'd be you know, the whole
East coast wud be getting slammed. So people are going, oh,
you know, it's really not climate change. Oah, it is.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
We're just got lucky, so well, think better better to
be lucky, lucky at storms and then the unlucky.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
That's that is for sure. Yeah, it's funny. I mean
we've lived here now eight years, which is amazing, and
just in the time we have lived here, the climate
change has been pretty remarkable. Just the tides are higher.
You go to the beach and a lot of the
sand is really shifted around. You'll see big cliffs, you
know where it used to be nice flowing into the

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water and the cliffs that are there and they're having
to move around. On the east side of our island,
houses are starting to be washed away because of some
erosion down there. So it's it's really it's really gotten bad.
So yeah, wonder the next generation of these Barrier islands
going to exist anymore?

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Well, yeah, it's everything is changing, and it's changing a
lot quicker than I figured it would. I figured it'd
be a problem for my grandkids. I think it's gonna
be a problem in some cases even for us. It's
fourteen degrees celsius here today, which is high fifties. It's
very very mild for this time of the year really mild.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
And I heard they found the mosquito in Iceland, which
has never happened before, So I thought that.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Was pretty gret congratulations. They want more, I can send them.
I can send them by the boatload.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah, it's it's a weather. It's just around the country.
It's actually been beautiful for uh baseball and for everything else.
But now Toronto they've got the roof, which is great.
And Los Angeles it's the weather's always beautiful unless you
have an earthquake, which I guess is not weather related,
or for a fire. So they've got their own share
of problems out there. So, Timmy, have you watched much

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of the World Series of So what have you thought?

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah? I watched all of all of Game one. I
got bits and pieces of Game two. I was working,
so I missed. I missed a good junk of it.
But we've got a thing, you know, ja'son thirty on
our sports. It just basically shows all the highlights of
the game in thirty minutes. So I watched it a

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couple of times, went through it, and I I'm I'm impressed.
I'm impressed with both teams and the This my my
concern for the Dodgers has come true, and my concern
for the Jays, both of them are sitting. You know,
I was concerned with with Toronto going up against the

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plethora vases they were going to face, But at the
same point in time, I also saw an opportunity with
the Dodgers' bullpen. And in the first two games, we've
seen both, you know, we've we've seen the Dodgers' bullpen
problems in Game one, which contributed in a huge way,

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and the scrappy you know, running the count up getting
Blake snell out a little bit earlier. Uh. Game two,
Yamamoto was brilliant, unbelievable. Yeah, it's uh yeah, he's a
top five starter next year for fans for purposes. And
so what we're seeing, I think is both teams in

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two separate games, succeeding and failing. Okay, because of the
things that we've discussed on air over the past couple
of weeks, and yeah, there haven't been a lot of surprises,
but yeah, it's.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Los Los Investia to already kind of thin bullpen really
hurt the Dodgers, so that that might come back to
haunt them. Apparently his something happened with his pregnant wife,
I think, so hopefully something. Yeah, So hopefully that's all
going to work out. Okay, So he had to leave
the team for you know, for good reasons. But that

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I mean, it's a thin bullpen already, and great Sasaki
is great, but you know, if a guy comes out
of the fifth innings, you know, that's.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, well, and that's and again, you know what the
Jays are going to do. They're going to be up
there hacking and trying to run the pitch counts up.
And if they can run those pitch counts up and
get to that bullpen, like you said, in the fifth,
sixth inning, that becomes a problem.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Well, they weren't able to run the count up yesterday
because Gammamoda except always in the first inning, if you're
going to get to him, that's when you're going to
get to them. After that, he was to strike one
strike too, and then it's his dead mut Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
I think he retired twenty in a row or something
like that. It's the second complete game. The last time
I think somebody did that was Kurt Schilling. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Is that the bloody Is that the the bloody sock game?

Speaker 2 (07:38):
That it might have been have been a long time ago. Anyways,
twenty some odd years back.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Ye, hundred and five pitches. Hundred five pitches in a
World Series. That's impressive.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
It's not gonna be No, no, it's not. And you
know the Jay the Jays were pounding into the ground
it and that people, and it was like, you know, hey,
grounder to short stop, out, one, grounder to second base,
two fly ball, oh three, you know it was just yeah,

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it was impressive, it really was.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
But the Dodgers. Having said all that, the Dodgers did
what they needed to do, and that was to split
the games in Toronto. So and now it's just back
over to Los Angeles and you've got Tyler glasnow going
for the Dodgers, and who's going Sureser is going for
the Toronto How do you look at Game three?

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Ah, again, if they can get five five innings shures
Er with three earns or that, that's some in a
fairly good situation.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Assuming can't they do that, or is there a high
probability then I know he can't do it. Is there
a high probability he does that? Oh he's a gamer.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Mentally, yeah, mentally, he's already done it. Okay, physically, No,
not not quite. I I would put the odds at
less than fifty.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
I would too. I mean, it's it is the Dodgers,
and you know, and yeah, it's just they're a better
team at home as well. And Glasnow's got as nasty
stuff as Blake Snell. And he's got the same problem
as Blake Snell though, I mean it's injuries and sometimes
control problems, and Blake's Snell.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Again.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
If you can, if you can hold through like they did,
as you were saying, be patient at the plate. That's
the only way you can get to them, because if
you swing at the stuff, you're you're just gone. He's
it's too good.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, yeah, they've they've got to take the first first
two three innings. If Blake Snell is at after three,
if Snell is at forty pitches or less, the Jays
have got big problems.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yeah you mean glassnow?

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Oh sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah, glassnow and the Dodgers have problems. Yeah, sorry, Yeah,
that's they got they got to the Jays have to run.
They've got to get him up into the fifty sixty
seventy pitch count mark fairly early, and fairly early to

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have success. I think that's you know, and hey, they
can do it. It's that's part of their plan. I
think it's a good plan. You know. It's Jill all
about the execution.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Well, I'm pulling for that. I'm pulling for the blue Jays.
I think the Dodgers will win. But I'm firmly in
the Blue Jays camp. I would love to see that
the great Dodgers, and I think they are great, just lose.
I mean, it would be nice to see that. It
was a long article by Jason Stark from The Athletic

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was free for everybody. Encourage you go out and read.
He's a good writer. And but the question was are
the Dodgers ruining baseball? I'm not sure he really concluded anything.
Let me ask you the questions. Yeah, are the Dodgers
ruining baseball?

Speaker 2 (11:04):
No, I don't think they're ruinning baseball? Okay, I think uh,
I think Neil Huntington's ruining baseball?

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Oh the Pirates owner.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, But then again that's just me. I I sort
of have a I have a question for you here
because I need your I need your your thoughts on
this one. How many games is this gonna go? Rich?

Speaker 1 (11:32):
I think the Dodgers win in five. I think they
went three in a row here and go in five.
If not, I mean, if if the Blue Jays sneak
out of game and Dodgers, it's it could it's either
six or seven. But yeah, I mean, they still got
to get through Yamamoto again. They gotta They're gonna throw

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up Blake Snell again, who was really good. I mean
know he had a pitched until he tired.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Uh. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
They still got Tyler Glassa who is a great pitcher.
And who's going to be the fourth guy? Oh oh
oh Tony so yeah, oh that guy.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Right.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Yeah, it starts all over again with Snell and Alamoo.
I mean, I I think if you could beat them
in seven games, you gotta you gotta give it up
for the Blue Jays. That's a that's a tough ask.
That's why I think it's gonna go five, maybe six.
How would you think?

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Okay, No, the reason I the reason I was asking
is because I told you a little bit, uh before
we got on the air. They had sort of a surprise.
I wanted to bring up. Okay, yeah, I have tickets
camp tickets for Game six.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Oh you doo wow, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, yeah, but it's nice. It's it's wonderful that I
ended up in a situation where somebody got some tickets
and they got a hold of me and asked me
if I wanted to go. The only the only challenge
is I had living for Francis Richard.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yeah. It's right around the corner from Toronto, just down. Yeah,
it is Saint Louise. What is that place? Yeah place?

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Yeah. Yeah. So anyhow, if there's a game six, I
can't book a plane because I can't cancel them up here.
I can't book a plane till the last minute. In
the hotels well you can just imagine what they are.
But I'm going to I'm going to go. If there's
a game six, yeah, you can just watch. It's a

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two day drive. Oh yeah, yeah, it's about eleven hundred miles.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Oh lord, tip, that's a long way. I thought was
run around. It's a pre You're in Ontario, right, that's
where Toronto is.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yes, Ontario from border to border is if I'm not mistake,
and close close to the fifteen hundred miles.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Wow, I could drive from one side of New Jersey
to the other in about an hour and a half.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
So that's yeah, I am where I where I live.
I am closer to Saint Louis, Kansas City, Chicago, and
Detroit than I am the capital of the province I
live in. That's how big Ontario is.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Wow. So so what are you gonna So your question
to me, if you do, you go ahead and pre
and pre buy uh tickets for everything now? And do
they so I guess if they win. If if the
blue Jays you're herp and the Blue Jays went on Monday,
then you can serve your tickets exactly.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Because if I want to book a plane ticket, okay
and have it refundable, the cost of booking that is
about two and a half three times the cost of
a normal flight, right Yeah, yes, and hey, begetting the

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tickets that no charge was a nice bonus. But I
don't give it all back to.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
The airline exactly.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah you got with airfare. No no, no free airfare.
But anyhow, I'll keep you apprized as to what I'm doing.
What I'm tentatively looking at doing is taking a flight
out at six in the morning on Friday on game
day and coming back on the Saturday. Yeah, one night,

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one night hotel because hotels downtown are all five to
eight hundred night two.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, well you could say somewhere near the airport or something.
They are going to be cheaper.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
So yeah, I don't want to do that though.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Okay, you down town, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Where all the action is. If somebody wins the World
Series in six games, I can say I was there.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
There you go. That's exciting.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah, So anyhow, that's yeah, that's my surprise news for
the day.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
That is great news. That's that's a lot of fun.
So we we're all now now we're really hoping that
that the Blue Jays will win one of those three games.
So Timp can go and be a live reporter for us.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Yeah. Seats by the way, uh two hundred level about
five rows back over first base. Wow, the good seats
so the same. There's somewhere in there somewhere in the
area for Game six and probably three to five thousand
a ticket.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Going rate right now is two thousand plus basically on everything.
You can get standing room for four hundred. I know
people that have sold tickets and bought tickets for the
first game that was fifteen hundred to twenty three hundred
a ticket.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
So are you going by yourself or you going with
somebody going with the person who offered you the ticket.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
No, the person who offered me the ticket is lives
in California.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Oh okay, yeah, no is a listener. Is this a
patre member listener or no?

Speaker 2 (17:36):
This is this is this is somebody who's involved in
the involved in the industry that happens to have a
good close friend who works for MLB that got tickets
and he was asked if he wanted the tickets. He
can't make game He can't make Game six, okay, so
he offered them to his friend and his friend muld

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be a good friend of mine. Hey, Jim. He called
me up on Wednesday, Jim, you're doing anything on the
on Halloween? And I said, well, other than drigg or treating, No,
I didn't have any plans. And it just went from there.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Well yeah, yeah, we got our.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Fingers across for you send me a take a break
get back. And I got some other questions. So I
want to pose to you. Got five questions about the
World Series and players and maybe from a fantasy viewpoint.

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So so first one's about Trey you seven, I called
him a breakout player. I think that's fair good. Another good,
solid performance in the playoffs, He's posted a three twenty
one ear and three starts, got one win. Obviously, look
great at the end of the season with the Blue Jays,
even more impressive going through four levels in the minor leagues.

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Where do you think he gets drafted in leagues this season?

Speaker 2 (19:04):
My initial reaction is too high.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Oh that's what I was afraid of.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah, I when I look at Trey Sad, it's a
great story. I love the kid, I love his attitude.
But I think what we're looking at here is a
player that was especially at the end of the year.
You know, once he got to Triple A, he was rushed. Okay,

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excuse me. When you look at his year, Okay, seventeen
innings at high A, he walked eleven thirty three innings
at a ball Okay, he only walked eight, eleven and

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thirty innings at Double A, eleven and seventeen at Triple A.
His regular season games, all three of them walk seven
in fourteen innings. I think he's going to be a
good pitcher, but the walk rates concerned me, and I
think we've seen it into the playoffs as well. He
had that brilliant no hitter okay earlier earlier on and

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it was amazing.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
He's change up too, and that always has early success
with those guys.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yeah, I think he's going to be a very good
pitcher eventually in number two, but not for me this year.
The I think there's some indications that there's going to
be some bumps along along his journey.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
So do you think you've been drafted as a number three,
number four pitcher or something higher than that.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
I think it'd be probably based on the success we've seen.
It will take somebody who is somebody who is disciplined
and does all their homework and looks at they won't
have him on their team next year, okay. I I
think he's going to be a number four type starter

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and he'll go as a number three, okay, based on
the early results.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
All right, let me give you two other hot shot rookies,
pitching rookies. I gotta give you three. Does he go higher?
I just want to know, not where you're taking we'll
talk about that. Secondly, does he go higher or lower
than Kate Hohrton lower? Does he go higher or lower
than Nolan McClain.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Lower?

Speaker 1 (21:40):
But close.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
Uh no, Actually, I was just trying to pull up
in Claan's numbers in my head here, and the old
noggin's not working that quick right now.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah, Tim, everybody Tim is a little onto the weather.
So that's the noggin is mucus mucus filled.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
So yes, it very much, so, yes, it's it's it's
not good. Nothing that was okay, better than a zero zero,
but anyhow, Yeah, no, I gotta go. I gotta go
with that menst okay.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Final one is Trey you savage? Who goes higher? You savage?
Or Jonah Toong?

Speaker 2 (22:24):
I think you're your savage?

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Will So would you take your savage over Tong? Or
would you rather have Tong?

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Next season? I would probably take you savage, but where
I would take him and Tong are not you know
what I mean? They're gonna go before that, Okay. I
I think there's veteran pictures out there that you could
probably sneak in ahead of them that have better odds

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of success. Like I said, I'd like them, but not
this year as much as moving forward. He's twenty two
years old, right, and yeah, there's gonna be some hiccups, I.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Think, so just trying to get my early understanding where
your head is with pitching, and you haven't completely thought
about it to this, It is a fair question, are
you so you Savage? Kate Horton, Dolan McClain, Jonahtong None,
None of those four guys are going to be in
your radar because you think they're going to be, They're
going to go too high for your comfort level? Is

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that fair to say? Or too early to say?

Speaker 2 (23:31):
The only one of that group that I will likely
end up with in a re draft league or the
odds are good that I'll be targeting is Horton. I
think we saw enough from Horton last year then I'd
be willing to pay a bit more for him than
the other three, with McLain probably second.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah, I think I'd rather have McClain because of the strikeouts.
But right I just don't, I just I mean, if
they're going to go is number three guys, and I
can get a veteran that's a little bit safer, is
my number three? That's probably the direction I'm gonna go.
If I'm gonna if I'm gonna kind of speculate, I'm
gonna speculate with my number five, six, starter with some
younger kids, so that that would be the way. That's

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my early read on the pitching situation.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yeah, and I agree with it, Rich, Like, how many
innings does you have you say you're gonna getna pitch
next year. I've got him down projected at one thirty
five Max.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
I think there's real concern because of how much he's
pitched this year. I mean, he started off in April
like everybody else did, and then what is it October
twenty six, and there's a really good chance, well, it's
almost inevitable he's gonna pitch again. He will pitch because pitch.
He's gonna pitch Game five.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
So yeah, he's got a hundred and ten innings in
this year before the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah, in the minor leagues.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
That's including everything this year.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yeah, it's that's I thought it'd be more than that.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yeah, No, it was seventeen thirty is fifty eighty eighty
and thirty is yeah, about one ten, one to eleven.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Interesting, so throw up playoffs, tackle another fifteen or twenty
in the playoffs. So that's still not bad. I mean
that's one hundred and thirty, two hundred and forty, So yeah. Uh.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
And that's where I've got to take that for next
year is somewhere in that area.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's reasonable. That's that's almost becoming
the norm Ian one point fifty is about the norm anymore.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
I mean the.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Freaks pitch one hundred and eighty to two hundred, you know,
the Ye Tarry schools of the world. By the way,
I don't know if we mentioned this, and we've talked
so much about it, but Terrek school lots of rumors
coming out of Detroit that they might move him in
the off season. What say you? The smart movie is
he will be a free agent at the end of
the twenty twenty six season. He has a Bar's client,

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so he's going to hit the open market. That's what
Bar's clients do. What do you think I think the
Tigers should What do you think they will do? What
do you think they should do?

Speaker 2 (26:04):
What I think they should do is enter the season
with Trek Scougel being a member of the Detroit Tigers,
and I think how the Tigers perform in the first
half should determine how they approach that situation. You know,
Trek Scoobel is in a five game sets good for

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two starts. He's good for two maybe three starts in
a seven game series. You know, if the Tigers are
serious about the game, how can they give him up
in the offseason? Okay, unless they're getting a haul that
puts some overall in a better situation for next year
than what they're in with them, and I just don't

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see that.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, but here's the counter argument. If you're I mean,
these teams have got to play for the long game, right,
and Tarrek Scoogle, the chances of him being a Detroit
Tiger in twenty twenty seven is extremely low because the
the Dodgers, the Yankees, the Mets, you know the teams, right.
The Red Sox even look great for the Red Sox.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
I mean, they're gonna work for a pitcher.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah, they're all gonna outbid the Tigers. And it's a
bar's client, so it's not going to be any hometown
discount at all. It's going to be who ponies up
the most money. And you would think the Tigers will
not be that team. But if they can reload, if
they can trade them to the Mets for Nolan McLain
and a couple of triple A prospects and you're ready

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prospects and a Carson Benge or something. I don't know, man,
that's I think you got to consider that.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
I think you have to consider it. But it'll all
depend on where the Tigers see themselves. Was this year
a one off in a fluke or is this year
something they can build on, be a better team next
year and take a serious run at the World Series.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Remember they they made it to the Alcus in twenty
twenty four, so they've made back to back seasons. And
you can argue if they did not have Trek Scoogle
that would have not been the case in either season.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
No, no guaranteed. So I don't know if if I
was a fan of the Tigers, unless they got a
massively grosshul that can help him over next year, I'd
be a little on the mif site. Should they trade
him before they see what they actually have next year, Yeah,
for sure.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
If they do that, it's definitely not going to be
a popular opinion that a popular move by for the
Detroit Tigers fans. But if you're putting purely your baseball
cap on and your front office cap one, and if
they get all the way to the deadline. He's not
going to be as valuable as he is on you know,
February first, obviously, right, because he's going to spend four

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months out of the sixth with the Tigers, so you
can get more value for him over the offseason. And
if you guess wrong and they don't make the players
so they get bounced in the first the first round,
all they're going to get, as you know, a sandwich
pick that's gonna be their compensation.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yeah, it's it's a tough call, there's no doubt about it.
But again, if you take a team like you know,
like the Red Sox, okay, with Garrett Crochet and the
number number three four in Balow, they would pay a
hefty price next June to get a healthy Terry Schoogle

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that that could take a team that is on the
cup of making the playoffs and make the World Service contender.
So I don't think they'll they won't get as much,
but I think they'll do awful well towards the trade
deadline if they under achieve it. You know, it's yes,

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he's he's going to command. He's the type of picture
you add him to your rotation in.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Picture in the game. So I mean it's it's everybody's
gonna want this guy. And you're right, whether it's the
deadline or February, is still going to command a lot.
But for having for the whole season, uh, you know,
get comfortable with the team. Blah blah blah blah blah.
I think that's when you want to you know, you
could pull a better player from the Red Sox in
this particular case, or even the Yankees, though I think

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the Yankees have enough depth, particularly with the Schlitzler kind
of making a state this season. Garrett Cole coming back,
I mean that.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Uh yeah, the Yankees. What the Yankees need is another
DH type to clog things up.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Yeah, that's funny. You know, the the don't forget the
Red Sox, you know, brought up Connie Early who looked
really good at the end of the season as well.
So there's they've you know, they've got somebody else too.
That's that's uh Paralys, who's who's back from Tommy John surgery.
He could make a sneaky arrival late in the second

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half next season as well. So some interesting So another
young pitcher that did not look good was Immit she
and he really took it on the chin on Friday Night.
What about him going in the drafts I'm worried about.
I mean, he's eighth pitcher on the on the team,
starting pitcher on the team. But we know how it's
gonna work. But particularly again with the Dodgers going so

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deep into the playoffs, he's gonna get plenty of starts.
What about him in a draft he sees somebody who
interests you.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Yeah, he does. And I don't think he's an eighth.
I look at imag and and in La he's number five.
He's obviously behind Snell, Klasno, Yamamodo Tani, but there is
number five is open open forbidding. And and Ema she
and I'm looking at him as a number five on

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the Dodgers, but the three four on my fantasy squad.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
I kind of agree with you. I love him, Ima.
She also don't forget everyone River Ryan is coming back
as well from Tommy Johns such, so there's there's a
chance we see him by June. Another could be another.
Imit shean type of player who really can help you
in the second half.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah. The only the only thing I looked a quantified
that statement is is he viable and deeper mixed leagues. Yeah,
I think he's I think he's viable in twelve team leagues.
With the proviso that the Dodgers don't sign another Asian
starting pitcher or trade for a veteran in the offseason,
I'm gonna say they don't. But it's the Dodgers. You

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never know what the Dodgers are gonna do. You really don't.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
And there's rumors that they might bid on Kyle Tucker
that that might really put them to a position like
you gotta be kidding me type thing. So but but yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Yeah, exactly, they you know, hey, they could go after
bobashd Our next topic, and move Wookie that's back into
the outfield.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
It was interesting because as you were running down the
Dodgers pictures, one picture you did not mention was Rookie Sasaki,
which then I have to ask, are you becoming more
confident that he's going to be the closer entering twenty
twenty six or are they going to say, wait a minute, now,
we spent this is too good of an arm. Let's
put him back in the rotation.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Looking at that bullpen, Yeah, I I think that at
some point in times, Zaki's looking at serious surgery. Okay,
I think I think. I don't think as a starter.
I don't think it's gonna work right now. So I
think they're gonna say, Roki, this is this is where

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it's at. We need a lockdown, shutdown type closer. Eh,
it's yours. And he doesn't have a lot of leverage. Yes,
zero leverage.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
He's a second year player. Next year he has no
he's paid the minimum and he is zero leverage. None.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Yeah, and yeah, I can't I can't see the Dodgers
with their lineup saying no, yeah, yeah, we agree, we
want you to start next year, and we'll lose fifty
games by the All Star Break because our bullpen can't
protect the lead. No, that's not gonna happen. If I
was drafting today, I would draft Sazaki as a.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Closer, Timmy, They're not going to lose fifty games by
the All Star break. Just FYI, that's not yea happen.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
It was a little exaggerated next them. They might if
they don't fix it. They might. If they don't fix
their bullpen, they'll.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Just beat everybody seventeen to thirteen. So that's just after yeah,
you know, after having his lady. Late season troubles, injury troubles,
but he should be healthy come next season. He is
a free agent. It was, it was a fantastic bounce
back season. In fact, I don't know, I don't I

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don't know if they've announced bounce back player this season.
He probably won't get it, but I think he should
be should be considered a three eleven bat the average,
eighteen home runs. I think it was four stolen bases.
My problem with this, and we see it all the
time where guys have these great walk years and then yeah,
I mean Anthony Santander. You can argue, well, ge was hurt,

(35:20):
He's stunk before he got hurt. So where is he
now the Blue jayser in the in the World Series.
Where's Anthony Santander hurt? Again?

Speaker 2 (35:28):
So well, and you know, when you when you start
looking at bead might be the second best comeback player
on the Jays behind George Springer. Now there's there's a
serious comeback.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
That's true. But anyway back to Bashett, is he going
to be overdrafted in twenty twenty six or do you
think people aren't going to be buying it? What is
what is your how should I think about Bobachett going
into drafts next season.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
It's really an interesting situation. I I pulled up the shortstops, okay,
and their they're twenty five stats. Okay, and one of
the one of the five stats. They're twenty twenty five
this year, the past twenty.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Twenty five stats.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
I got it, okay, Yeah, yeah, And you know you
start looking at the metsgu Lindor, they don't need anything.
William Domas is in San Francisco, Zach Niedo, Nope, Trevor
Story's in Boston, Dansby Swanson's in Chicago, Bobby Woodson, Casey
Della cruz is in Cincinnati, calls some Montgomery, Chicago, Corey Seeger, Perdomo,

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c j Abrams, Gunner Henderson, Jeremy Penya, Trey Turner, Jacob Wilson.
Bobashett has a bit of a problem now. Granted he
is the only shortstop free agent shortstop, big name shortstop
available in free agency, but other than the Dodgers possibly
looking at bringing him in and getting Mooky back into

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the outfield, like who needs a shortstop?

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Many so you're thinking he could be back in Toronto.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
I think that that is potentially a destination, but again
it's going to depend on the money. I think there's
a good possibility he takes one of those bridge type
contracts or one with a slew of optotes. Because all
the big players except the Dodgers have a shortstop.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Bro, couldn't you move into a second base role? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (37:32):
You can move into second base? Yeah yeah, Jeff.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
So my question is not necessarily where he's going to
wind up in free agency, etc. But he's had a
great season. Is this a guy that all of a
sudden turns back into Bobachett? Who but the Bobashet we
know over the last in twenty twenty three and twenty
twenty four, who wasn't very good?

Speaker 2 (37:56):
I think I think the needs of chronic situation. He
hasn't run for like three years. Okay, he's never had
thirty home runs. The ops was great, Okay, he finished
third RBIs on a on a team where he was
batting in a very good situation this year in Toronto.

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I with the plethora of available shortstuffs for our game,
I'm just gonna stay away. I Yeah, I think that problem.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
I kind of misspoke. So his twenty three season looks
exactly like his twenty five season, twenty home runs, five
solar bases, eighteen home runs this season, four stolen bases,
three eleven batting average three zero six batting average in
two thousand and so looks very similar to that. A
guy that's there's no speed laft, he's gone. He looks
like he's a high teens, low twenty home run guy

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that never walks, makes really good contact.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yeah, and he's still like swinging in those first pitches.
He's making contact with with with more of them. But
I don't know, there are so many options at shortstop,
like if I just don't I just don't know. I
I think he's gonna have a hard time getting a contract.

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I really do.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
I think he's I think he's more of a middle infielder.
I would I would advise people not to overdraft Boba
based on the season he had with the season was good.
But and I'm looking at it, it's not that good. So,
I mean, it's no and there not there anymore. So
that that makes it a little dice. And you always
worry about a guy who just never walks. I mean

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and on base percentage legue that kills you. But that
also means going to get on base less, less opportunity
to score runs, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Yeah, yeah, there's for our games purposes, it's I'm just
avoiding it.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Let's go to the Dodgers and he pays, and they're
really struggling in the playoffs. So I took a look
at and I was just digging in, trying to say,
I've found a really bizarre uh split here with him.
Usually it's right handed, left handed, but his home wasat splits.
He hits three twenty five, three sixty ninety five ninety
four with nineteen home runs at home, almost exact same

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played appearances in away games, where he's hitting two twenty one,
two fifty seven on base percentage and at three point
thirty six slug he's slugging one hundred and sixty points
more away from home, and he only has eight home
runs away from a Dodger stadium. I don't even know
what to think about that.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Well, he's twenty four years old, and he's probably just
loans him on the road. Okay, he'd be away from
home and everything, Okay, and you know he's young. I'm
sure that will will stabilize as he he gains a
little bit more experience and and a little bit more wisdom.

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It's a weird split. Is there any reason for it
other than the fact that maybe he feels a lot
more comfortable at home. He's a young player. That's the
only thing I can come up with.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Yeah, that's only thing I could come up with. I
agree with you. So is he somebody that interests you
at the draft table?

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Well, at his position, those twenty seven home runs that
he hit was the thirteenth best as an outfielder.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
So the answer is yes.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Yeah, the answer is definitely yes. He stole fourteen basis. Yeah,
I obp again strikes out a little bit too much.
When he's twenty four years old. There's growth potential there.
You're gonna have to draft. You're gonna have to draft
him as your week number one strong number two. Oh remember,

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you got in a fifteen team league and needs seventy
five outfielders and he is number thirteenth on the list
as far as power numbers are concerned. Playing on a
good team, Yeah, and he's not any great spots. So
as a twenty four year old, yeah, you're gonna you're
gonna look at him as a week number one strong
number two. Type outfielder does the.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Uh maybe doesn't does the twenty nine walks in twenty
six and twenty six weeks bother you of the season
basically walking once a week.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Yeah, that's yeah, that that is a concern. And let's
face it, a prolonged slump means the Dodgers will get
somebody else in on the field, right, Yep, there are
there are there are there are pressures associated with playing
on a winning team. So yeah, it's it is concerning.

(42:51):
But again, he's twenty four, He's already got two seasons
under his belt, and there's definitely.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Definitely wrong a number one strong number two. Wow, it
feels it feels too if it feels too expensive for.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Me, mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
But I mean you bring up the fact that he
go for the Dodgers, but that means there's gonna be
a lot of RBI and run scored opportunities for him
even though he's not hitting at the top of the lineup.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Yeah. I I think what it's going to illustrate is, uh,
the oatfield is something when one is going to have
to approach very carefully when it comes to read draft leagues.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Final I want to go to Yeah, final, guy I
want to talk about from the for the World Series.
You've been saying that for years though, right, that there's
not enough outfielders out there, but they also coming to
the league.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Yeah, the waiver wire becomes incredibly important, doesn't it.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
It does. Indeed, I want to go maybe next week
we'll take a look at your your first waiver wire
of this season. I remember how you nailed it in
twenty twenty four. I'm going to take a look at
that scene. See he nailed this season, so because that's
all I was fun to look at cool.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
I have to look back. I usually do after the season.
See see how many Emilio pegans I recommended to close.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Final guy is Freddy Raiment. He hasn't played well this
postseason at all. It's it's it's been underwhelming. But he
is thirty six years old. Every the data shows he
is definitely in decline. Seventy percent exit velocity and ninety
point nine mile hour exit velocity, which everyone that still
means there's power there. It's probably twenty to twenty five

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home run pop. Those years of thirty to thirty five
might be eliminated. The speed is completely gone. I know
he stole on nine bases, but he's in the tenth
percentile and sprint speed. So it's a guy that's in
his decline. Give me his stat line for twenty twenty
six home run, stolen bases, and batting average.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
I might go with twenty four home runs, five stolen bases,
and a two to eighty batting average. You know, even
though he's in decline. You know, last year at first base,
he had the second best OPS amongst his peers.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
So is he going to go in the top five rounds?

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Well, listen, that's where that's where it sort of gets
gets interesting. Yeah, I think he will, but he's he's
you know, he's not going to be the back of
the first second round. If I get when I look
at first base, there are some really good bats that
I think are going to go fairly early. It's all
about how far does he fall. I think he's old, Definitely,

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he's old, but I don't think he's done. And he's
playing on a team that will give him RBI opportunities.
If I see a potential bargain from Freddie Freeman, I'll
jump all over it. And again, when you when you
are looking at at first base, yeah, you got pe
Alonzo and Nick Kurtz, Vinnie Bascuentino will probably go ahead

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of him, Bryce Harper, Vlaid Vlad Junior. But after that
it gets pretty gets pretty thin pretty quick, you know,
Guys like, oh, it's a good example here, Christian Walker,
Spencer Torkelsen, Michael Bush, Michael Busch. There's questions. Okay, So

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if I could, if I could get him as a fifth, sixth,
first basement off the board in the latter stages of
the third round, yeah, that would definitely interest me.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
What what what?

Speaker 2 (46:47):
What? Realm third?

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Wow? So I'm looking at at fan tracks and they've
got a score next to everybody's name. I think I'm
looking at on base percent itch, but they're not Josh.
I guess with his thirty stolen basis is at the
top of the list. Here you got Naylor, Alonso Bellinger,
Raphael Devers, Matt Olsen, Nick Kurtz, Vinny p Vlad Junior,

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Michael Bush, then Freddie Freeman, followed by Tyler Soderstrom, then
Bryce Harper after that. So just looking at his over
how he did last season, I know, the second highest ops.
But from a fantasy standpoint, you know, it's not at
least how he's ranked is not so great.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
No, twenty four homers, ninety RBIs, eighty one runs scored.
He is going to be in the top five across
the board now, unless you're predicting a huge fall off,
and I'm not. I think the huge fall off has
occurred already. I think he'll stay stable for another year

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or two and then another step step down. If you
look at the look at his numbers the past two years,
they are almost a mirror image of each other. Okay,
I agreed, So yeah, so I'm sort of thinking that
next year is not going to be a serious falloff
for Freddie Freeman. And hey, if I can get him later,

(48:15):
then if I can get him, if he's still there
in the fourth, fifth round, I think you've got to
be all over that because I don't want to be
chasing Cody Clemens, Alex Burlison, Nathaniel Ryan O'Hearn, you know,
Andrew Vaughan do I and they're all in the top twenty.
I don't want to play that game, you know, I

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time outs.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
What about your buddy from Boston? It's hurt all season?

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Yeah, Yeah, there's thirty five hundred potential there. Hey, does
Boston make a move and trade him this offseason.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
I hope not.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
I hope not as well, but I don't know if
i'd rule it. Oh yeah, they are. They gonna sit back,
and you know, I don't know what they're gonna do
with trist and gasses. But yeah, again, what are you
gonna pay for him? What are you gonna pay for
Josh Naylor in his twenty home.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
Nus, He's not gonna He's not gonna be on my team.
I'm spending dollars. He's he's he's a euro. He calls euros.
I don't have it. I don't have a conversion for that.
I'm not I'm not partaking.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Yeah, do you want Spencer's deer? With his two thirty
eight batting average and twenty one home runs, he finished
twelfth in home runs at first base? Yeah, maybe I'm
ben Ben races in there, But he's a catcher, right,
You're gonna use him a catcher, not first base.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
All right, I'm gonna take a break, come back because
I don't want you to keep talking about this. I
have a guess the player. So okay, so stop looking
at first basement. Let's take a break. I'll come back,
and I gotta guess the player asked for the great mcclown,
did I have Timmy. I don't even believe this, but

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I'm going to say it. Josh Alla had thirty stolen bases.
You had this second amount of stolen bases by a
first baseman.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
Buy a first baseman and it would be Bryce Harper
with twelve.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Augustine Ramirez was sixteen.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Oh, okay, yeah, with uh.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
I mean Augusty Ramirez. There's many things. He is fast
as not one. I don't know what's going on there.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
Well, and again, if you've got Ramirez, you're gonna want
him to catch here.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Probably uh true, but he is he catching. Will have
to take a look at that, just want to make sure.
Maybe he's faster than I thought. I've never looked at
this before. Yeah, looking at august ramirez sprint speed is
thirty one percent tile, he's got sixteen stolen bases. Come on,
what is going on here?

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Well? When you when you when you make the bases okay,
four feet across? Okay, it means people can run at will.
Louise Rayes was number three at stole on bases with eleven. Okay.
Carlos Santana's stole seven, he's thirty eight, I think thirty nine.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
And then he loses his job midway through the season.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
So yeah, yeah, it comes traded for him, and then yeah,
he basically platooned to win more sad against stuff left.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
He's eh, Augusty Ramirez didn't play first base at all,
so that's that is. You know, I'm not sure why.
Maybe he came into the league as a first base
and that's why he showed on, but he's not a
first the first base coming in. It's seventy seventy three
games a catcher, sixty three at d H So catcher

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with sixteen stolen bases, Oh, that's Timmy. It's pretty interesting.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Yeah, you're starting to look at uh catcher is a
fascinating position.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
There's he's top man with sixteen. Right after that is
kyl Riley.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
M hm. So yeah, there's there's some good, young talented
catcher this year. I'm all my fun to see that
breaks down.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
I'm all arriving Herrera. That's that's I still that guy.
Three well, if he's my guy, but a three seventy
three on base percentage and nineteen hour runs, eight stolen
base I've looked at his underlying stats, but that's a
guy that I've always been pretty bullish on. And uh yeah,
so I yeah, I kinda kind of like Ivan Herrera,
so that's that's don't know if it's my guy, but I

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like him. So since them, we're gonna, we're gonna finish up.
I'm sorry, you're about to say.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
Something I was. Yeah, I was just going to mention I.
I just saw something that came up on Twitter that
I thought might interest you. Rich Okay, Okay, it's under
the DraftKings logo, and it says when the NBA is
very concerned about the multiple arrests made the result as
a result of the FBI's sports gambling investigation use code

(53:23):
multiple arrests for a thirty percent profit boost on a
three leg parlay with DraftKings, Are you really the NBA?
It's it's somebody posted as a gag on Okay.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Yeah, I as I was thinking it was the Onion
or something like that. Yeah. I wanted to bring this up,
and we're going to talk the pirates in Saint Louis
fantasy questions and finish that up. But I didn't writ
any notes on this. Teddy but as you and I
talked before coming doing the recording, this made big news
middle I think it was Thursday or Friday of last week,
and where the FBI did a sting of the NBA

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and apparently a couple guys got suspended. Chauncey Billups. Billups,
who is a Hall of Fame coach player for the
Detroit Pistons, if I recall, was involved in a high
stakes poker game but also apparently leaking information about his
team when he was going to be resting players to

(54:22):
tank at the end of the season. So he's in
trouble for that, and there's all these articles out like
we can't believe this is happening. I'm like, what, It's
just the most obvious thing where you get players thrown
huge sums of money who don't make a lot. Apparently
that some of the players that are getting in trouble

(54:42):
You've seeing this in baseball are not your guys that
are making fifteen to thirty forty fifty million dollars a season.
But it's the guys that are, you know, your your
last guy on the roster type of thing, and they
are enticed to venture into this gambling thing. And I
think if you the leagues, particularly the NBA. The NBA

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started all this, David Stearns, who is is that? David
Stearns forgot who the commissioners. He was the one that
originally embraced it, and everybody else kind of all the
other leagues kind of fell online. And now you can't
go to a football game, a baseball game, a hockey game,
any kind of sporting event and not see everything littered

(55:26):
with gambling. And to think that we've got this this
kind of issue that's going on with the basketball and
we've seen it already in other sports. If he keeps
people keep saying the Dodgers are going to kill baseball,
I wonder if gambling is eventually going to kill these
this sport guy, I don't see this getting any better.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Uh, you can ask the Cleveland Guardians for their thoughts. Rich.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Yeah, there you go. There's a perfect example of we
haven't heard what's happening there, but uh, you know cross
A are the best closers in the game. And uh
and then Luis Garcia, so Lisa Ortez loase or tease.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
Yeah, that's a.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
Perfect example of these Louis Ortiz, a guy that's not
making a lot of money gets you know, hey, you
can pull in another five million dollars by throwing a
ball as your first pitch of the game. No one's
going to be the wiser. And you know it's people
are making tons of money off of this stuff. But
it was bound to happen.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
It's inevitable, and it's not This isn't over. This is
just one incident. I think of what could potentially be
many incidents, you know, moving moving forward, it's it's going
to be a problem. And these professional sports leagues they're

(56:49):
living on they're living on the edge and sometimes you
can walk back from it, and sometimes you fall off.
But they're setting themselves up for there's a whole lot
of her that's going to be coming over the next three,
four five years. And don't get me, I'm not this
is an a moral issue for common sense. It's a

(57:10):
common sense issue. I hey, I'll throw ten bucks down,
you know, on just aboard than anything, you know what
I mean. I have nothing against gambling, but I think
when you start introducing it in a way where it
becomes even easier for player involvement, that's not a good
situation at all. It's going to be trouble.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
I just think it's I think it's completely hypocritical, critical
as well. The owners and the league can benefit from this,
but yeah, player, and I get it why a player
can't get involved, but.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Still you're exploited.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
You're exploiting the players so the league can make money
from gambling and something they can't participate in. I think
it's a real kind of it's it's a box that
I think is going to be tough for these leagues
to get out of.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
I think the word hip a critical comes into play
at some point.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
In Absolutely it's it's the epitome of hypocrisy. I totally
agree with you, and you know, and I think more
is going to happen. Uh, it's unfortunate. I know most
of the stuff that Chauncey Phillips involved these high state
poker games, I don't know. Did you hear what they
were doing?

Speaker 2 (58:25):
Yeah? They were. I think the machines were rigged.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
So I saw a long interview about this and the
the guy was I think it was CNN. The guy
who was interviewing was like, I didn't know the questions
to ask because he was this dumbfound that like, oh
my god, So they built cameras into the table under
the felt so where the guy's cards, where they could
take a look at the cards that were laying down.

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They were going to that level. And then people wore
these earpieces, Timmy. They look like a bebe that you
would drop the teeny tiny a bebe that you drop
into their ear And to take the metal microphone out
you have to use a magnet to kind of draw
the thing out. That's the kind of sophistication they were
going with. And apparently there would be somebody in the

(59:13):
control room and say, you know better, Number three has
got a you know, it's got an ace and a
five something. It was completely rigged.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
Well yeah, and I the number one number I heard
was that somebody lost one point eight million in the process. Yeah,
I don't care how wealthy are one point eight million,
that's a good junk of change.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
Apparently, and apparently some of those people didn't pay. And
guess what, the Tony Sopranos of the world the mob
got in and said, you know, do you value your legs?

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Yeah, yes, I'm carrying a violin case, but I don't
play real well exactly.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
So just crazy stuff that you think only only people
in Hollywood can come up with the storylines and they
at you played out supposedly in real time here over
the last couple of years of these high high stake
poker games and again having a coach in the NBA
involved with supposedly you know, organized crime. People's not that's

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not going to end well for anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
No, it is not. And I hate you know, the
do as I say, not do as I do mentality.
I think we have to be reevaluated at the professional
sports level.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
I think you're right. We'll see how it all ends up.
And it kind of makes what Pete Rose did seem kind
of ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
It's like, and now we've got guys that are working
with organized crime to maybe Pete Rose did, I don't know,
but it just seems like it's gone up multiple levels here.
And you get a Hall of Fame guy involved. You
think he's got plenty of money and it is only
going to be at the guys on the fringes and
you find out, no, it's not. And you know, it's
just it's I agree with you, not a moral issue,

(01:01:01):
but it's if these sports lose their integrity, then you've
got mass chaos. I mean, no one's going to watch it,
and sports is the golden goose of media. That's what
everybody wants, is live television sports. And if you can't,
you've got the WWE. I mean, that's what you have
where it's all it's all scripting.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Yep, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
Today, let's take a look at these final two teams
of the National League. Centric got a lot of great
feedback on our fantasy questions. People. People told me as
soon as we start talking doing this kind of review
of the different divisions, that baseball is right around the corner, right,
because it's like, wow, this is always kind of at

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the end of the World Series, we start talking about
this and getting people's juices flowing, and it's almost like
they don't care for right or wrong. They just want
to hear the discussion and hear the thought process. Go
I thought that was really cool.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Well, and you know what, it is all about the
thought process because we're still in October, we're still playing
the World Series, and we're trying to plot things out
that are going to happen over the next five months.
So yeah, there's a lot of what ifs and wars
and hypotheticals. But I like the idea of exploring some

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of these options, and I like exploring them early. Some
we hit, some we don't, but again, it won't be
too long before we'll have a little bit better of
an idea. And if you're drafting early, especially early drafting,
some of this should come into play. I think critical thinking.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
It's funny because I mean, most people's fantasy seasons ended
a month ago. Six It doesn't take long. When you're
in the middle of the season. You know everything, what's happening,
You know all the players and who's so much. It
does only takes a couple of weeks and you forget
who you know the closer is for the Detroit Tigers
or something like. You just don't know anymore because you're

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not thinking about it every day. So it's good to
kind of to start to dig into this and it
helps remind everybody of these players.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Yep, I agree, all right to me, let's talking.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
About Pittsburgh Pirates. I'm afraid this this question will take
an hour, so I apologize out of time, so I write,
when I look at the Pirates lineup, it's not very intimidating.
So let me give you the names. O'Neil Cruz, Jared Torello,
Brian Reynolds, Spencer Horrowitz, your buddy, Nick Gonzales, Jack's Zowinsky,

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Joey Bart, Indie Rodriguez, and Nick York. That is according
to uh base Roster Resource, if the season were to
start today, that is what their lineup looks like. So
give me two moves the Pirates can make to off
to make their offense better.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Only two.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Give me as many as you want, but I want
at least.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Too, Okay, Bally all I. The only thing I've got
for you is not what fans of the Pittsburgh Pirates
want to hear, or maybe it is. It should be
the only situation and the only act the Pirates can
do right now is waited out until the kids start arriving.

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That's it. They can't trade for big names. Yeah, that's
that's one of the big ones. Yeah, they got to
waited out until they get the kids up. There's nothing
They're not going to sign free agents. Okay, what do
they have to offer for trade? Connor Griffin? No, you know,
Paul Skans. You know there's been so many suggested trades

(01:04:42):
for Paul Skiings on Twitter this offseason already. Then you
can shake a stick out and all of them are
ridiculous because the Pirates aren't moving Paul Schames for love
their money. It ain't happened. I'd be shocked even if Pirates.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
Paul Skins would if if if, if Trek Scoble acquires
Nolan oh I forgot the name of the Mets pitch
one of the Mets, big Nolan McLain and a Carson
bench type. Yeah, I can't imagine what Paul Schames would
be three x that. I mean it would It would

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cost a team enormously. I mean, with his age and
the mountain of team control. They no one's gonna buy it.
It's so expensive.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Yeah, can I ask you for a favor? Can I
escape for about thirty seconds?

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
Right? Sure, we'll put you on hole s all right,
Tim is back. I had the pleasure of listening to
Tim's entire conversation, and Tim was actually believe or not
talking with Chauncey Billups and Tim, I was a little
surprised that you run in those circles after after the
discussion we just had. But he's invited you to play
in his next poker game.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
Well done, well, yeah, and he's already told me I'm
gonna win.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
You gotta put that little microphone or ear not microphone
but ear ear h ear, I guess ear plugger not
But what would you call that? You listening advice or
whatever in your ear? So I can't believe microphone in
your your ear. It's not a microphone.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
It's it's at my age, rich, I call it a
hearing aid.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
Yeah, this thing was amazing, how small it was amazing? Okay,
So I think we're at tim giving us two moves.
You haven't given me any moves. You're just not moving. Uh,
you're waiting for the kids to come up. That was
your That was your move.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
Yeah, that that is That is a move that the
pirates will make there.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
All right, here's the problem with that, with that philosophy.
Condor Griffin, we talk about him in a minute. Bubba
Chandler's are seth Hernandez not gonna be.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
Up for a while.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
Tamar Johnson, maybe is he gonna help this year? I
don't know. Edwin Florentino chancing me really really good, he
sotle ways off. I'm looking for ezmra Lyn Valdez, who's
hitting a home run every day at the Fall League.
Maybe yeah, him, Rafael Flores, interesting catcher, could be a
guy that can help Jack Bran again. So I mean

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there's besides Connor, Griffin and maybe Valdez and Johnson. I mean,
there's not a ton of depth. This is not the
Boston Red Sox at the beginning of the twenty twenty
five season with all their kids coming on.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
But it might be next year at this time. It
could be or yeah, or the spring the spring of
where are we here? Spring of twenty seven. I'm the
Pirates aren't going to bring in free agents. They're not
going to sign anybody, So what options do they have?
I know what you're you're looking at. You know, the

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clock is sticking on Paul Skeens. Okay, but they still
have what three more years? Four more years? I know
it goes quick, but this was his second.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
Year, so they got four more years of him.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Okay, Well, this year is a wasted one and they
got to hope for better, better things out of twenty
seven and twenty eight and they can get their value
on them at that point in time. I mean Connor,
because they you.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
Know, Griffin's going to help a lot. The question is,
yes he is, When is he going to get up,
So I want the date and the time that he
comes up.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
Well, he's got a grand total of eighty three at
bats at double A. I'm thinking that we see him
around the All Star break, slightly after the All Star break.
If things break right, you know, if he rocks it
the first three months of next year down in the minors,
I think we see him up around the All Star break.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
Okay, so that's a half season a little less. It's
called for the season something like that. Yeah, is that
somebody you try to draft or is he going to
be so expensive probably in a draft and whole league,
that you got to take him. I would guess in
the twenties, low twenties, somebody's gonna jump on. Is that
too expensive?

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
It's too expensive for me? Because again, that's if everything
breaks right, Okay, if he struggles a little bit, okay,
like he's only got eighty three at bats in a
double if he struggles at all, that could be pushed back.
I would rather focus on a young player, a minor
leaguer that I think is going to contribute in April,

(01:09:38):
May and June. Okay, he might not have the same
results as a Connor Griffin and more than likely won't.
But towards looking at your fantasy team, those three months
of every day at bats from even an average player
will probably generate more than Connor Griffin will over the
last two to three months. Assume me again if things right. So, no,

(01:10:01):
he's not on my list of targets and re draft
leagues this year.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
Tamar Johnson will be in Triple A to start the
two thousand and twenty six season. I guess I gotta
get my head wrapped around. We're in twenty twenty six now,
so there's a chance, a realistic chance that we see
him mid season. And that's a very good baseball player
as well. I mean, he doesn't have nearly the kind
of tool set that Condor Griffin does, but he can help.

(01:10:29):
He's got speed, he's got some you know, average power.
It can really really hit your thoughts.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
There, h question five says, give me a sleeper in
the organization. I bet you never guess who I put. Okay, okay, there,
you know we've taken one name off the list. I agree, Rich, Yeah,
he's one of my sleepers in that organization.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
That's interesting. I just want to give you just a
TAM's thought on Condor Griffin. I could double down on
that Anthony has a chance to be a superstar.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
Agreed, totally. I think we see it. I think we
see it this year. It sky's a limit.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
He played in a little bit more than half a
season this year, seventy one games in Boston. He had
eight home runs and had four stolen bases, with forty
eight runs scored. This is what we get guys most
of the time. Even with really really good players who
come into the league as rookies, they're not fully baked.

(01:11:33):
And Connor Griffin is not fully baked, and it usually
takes one Some guys come out of the shoot just ripping,
and it's really hard to figure out who those guys
are going to be. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
Yeah, And you know when you get two weeks into
the season and you see a veteran playing I'll just
a veteran playing for the Pirates who's off to a
hot start. Did you pick him up and add him
off the waiverwear, Yeah, he's playing every day. You have
to make those type of moves, right, So yeah, it's
it is really tough. And as much as I like

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going in on one or two prospects, you really can't
with the game changing the way it has younger players
coming up, starting pitchers blowing out arms left, right and center.
You gotta you gotta hold onto two or three spots
in your in your reserve roster for starting pitchers, probably
a couple setup guys a bat You can only have

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so many of these kids. And to tie up a
roster spot hoping that Connor Griffin is gonna get called
up early in the season, I think you're chasing fools cold.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
I agree. I totally agree with that. I would probably
in a draft and hold league much prefer Tamorrow Johnson
because I can get him in the forties. Then what
I'm gonna have to pay for Connor Griffin. And yes,
if conn Griffin and both Tamar Johnson started whatever the
first thing it's called April first, I don't know what
the start to start of the season is. Yes, Connor

(01:13:09):
Griffin is going to perform better. It should perform better
from a fantasy purpose of Tamar Johnson. But given the
price difference and how you know how much I think
Tamar Johnson a little bit further along, I think there's
a better shot he's worth the risk of the cost
of him.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
If you know what I mean, Yeah, totally no. Now, hey,
if we hear the beginning of February that the Pirates
have plans that Connor Griffin is going to start as
an everyday player and break camp with the Pirates, well, hey,
do I think it's going to happen? No, But if
the Pirates were to say something like that, well, reevaluate,
reevaluate your plans and in a hurry. Right.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
I don't know who Connor Griffin's representative is, we can
look that up. I don't think he's a Bar's client.
But he wasn't first round draftic, which probably means he
has a little bit of money banked up as probably
a six or seven million dollar deal that he signed.
But if they could get him to a you know,
a Roman Anthony kind of deal, like eight years, one

(01:14:09):
hundred million dollars, that might be a really really smart
play by the Pittsburgh Pirates.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
Yeah. Play the Tampa Bay Rays game, right, Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
Or what or what the Milwaukee Brewers did with Curio
or what the Boston Red Sox have done with a
number of players, including Christine Campbell and Roman Anthony.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
Yeah, you know, hey, something like that changes the whole
equation and our discussion becomes very mood very quickly. I
don't know what's going to happen, so I would err
on the side of caution if I was drafting early,
assuming that that won't happen in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
If you equate Connor Griffin a little bit to led
la Cruz in terms of Elie de la Cruz being
far and away than us player on that team, kind
of Griffin had a chance to be that marquee name.
I mean, this is the kind of the guy that
you can build around. And as we saw, the Cincinnati
Reds made it to the playoffs this season. And since

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I read as good as Hunter Green as he's know
Paul Skins, So that's why I think Griffin, we could
see they should bring him up at some point next season.
I don't know when it's going to be. I think
Tim's suggestion of sometime at July makes sense, depending on
how well he plays at the beginning of the season.
But they got to push it because of Paul Skins,

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and they can't dilly dally around here.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
No, they can do the same thing that will happen
has happened to Garrett Cole right, that's right, absolutely enjoy
your success on another squad.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
Look, I'm obviously a huge fan of Paul Skins. I'm
also a huge fan of Bubba Chandler. I'm not sure
exactly what happened after the month of April where he
just could not throw strikes. He looked really good at
the end of the season. Simple questions. Stat line for
twenty twenty six. I know you hate these. I hate
them as well. And we're going to do our Prospect

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podcast probably sometime this week, and Tim's gonna ask me
a whole bunch of these, So I know I don't
like them. I know you don't like them. Anys pitch wins, eras,
era and strikeouts.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
Oh I can say is payback is a beach? Is
it's I'm gonna go with one hundred and thirty five
innings from Bubba. Six wins in the ear a of
three seventy five. I had to pick a number. It

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was between one and seven, So I'm going on the
e side.

Speaker 1 (01:16:44):
Six wins. How many what's his ERA? Three seventy five,
so that's a pretty how many strikeouts?

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
Again, one hundred and forty five A little bit more
than a strikeout on any Yeah, a little bit more
than that's.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
A pretty good player.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I Bubba Chandler will be Yeah. I
think he's going to be an asset this year.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
Yep, I'm wrong one.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
Yeah. Well how many did Paul Skeens get last year? Nine?
Eight or nine something like that?

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
Oh, I know, I saved your ass on that Bubba channel,
that Paul skin steal you're about to make. And I said,
because you're gonna get Glass now. And I say, I said,
Paul Skins win more games than uh Tyler Glass. I
was one hundred confident of that, and he.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
In fact it. So yeah, yeah, no, I sort of
like my pitching with Logan Gilbert is my number three
behind Skeens and Yamamoto for next year.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
That's a good word, Yeah, it is. I'm a little
worried that Yamamoto might If the Dodgers are smart they are,
you might not see a whole lot of time before
May ish. I would think they're going to rest him.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
Well lot, It will depend on what happens with the WBC.
And you know, just Team Japan, do they utilize Yamamoto,
do they utilize Otani? They don't need to to have
the best rotation in that tournament. They don't need the
MLB guys. I don't know what they're going to do,
how they're going to approach it. There is a who.

Speaker 1 (01:18:17):
Would they pitch if not the MLB guys they have?

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
Well no, I just answered answer the question for somebody
to day. But just to give you an idea of
how strong the pitching is in Japan right now young pitchers.
Last year twenty twenty five, there were thirteen qualified starters

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that posted a sub two fifty ERA in that league,
of which six of them were under two. In the
top twenty ERA in the MPB last year there was
only one person that had n ERA over three. Now
it's a it's a dead ball era that right right now,

(01:19:05):
they have so many good young pitchers. It is. It's scary, rich,
it really is. They have to stop your heart. No
I could over the zero point zero.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
I was ready to.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
Get I know you did. You can't. You can't teach
your dogs.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
I kept worrying, and then it was like a fish.
I had the like, no, I'm not gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
No, no, no. All I know is a w BC team.
Your band will have the best starting pitching.

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
But usually I mean these these these Japanese players are
so competitive. I would not be surprised both Sasaki and
yamamotive pitching it against maybe the advice of the Dodgers.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
So yeah, I don't think Kuchi is good enough to
make the team. That's how good they're pitching, is Richard, Yeah,
it's it's ridiculous. Okay, Yeah, we're gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
Yeah, I think I think we're in agreement there. I
love your stat line. I think the wins will be
a little bit more, maybe nine. But that could be
just me being stupid because six is probably realistic.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
It could it could be. The only thing is looking
at the Pirates, you're not going to have a good
team now if you're if you're betting on high winds
out of a pitcher, I'll go with Skeens because he's
going to get more work, okay than Bubba Chandler. I
would think, so, more work, more opportunities. Yeah, but I
had Paul Skans, I would have a hard time picking

(01:20:47):
him for fifteen wins. I think that's your reach.

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
But if you say Paul Skans get twelve and Bubba
Chandler and the rest of the guys get six to
seven a piece, that's not a lot of wins, so
that's not very discouraging. That's why they got to get
kind of Griffin up and Johnson and even Valdez. I mean,
I I think I did the Pittsburgh Pirates podcast this
past week and I warned everybody that the Fall League

(01:21:15):
is a huge hitters league. There's no pitching there outside
of a handful, so you do see these kids kind
of blow up. And yes, Valdez look really good and
high at the beginning of the season, but in the
second half when he went up to double A, he struggled.
So just everybody be careful with Valdez going into next season.

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
Particular, if you're betting on twenty twenty six and using
AFL offensive numbers, enjoy fourteenth in a fifteen team league,
that's what you're you know, it just doesn't work. No.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
Dennis Santana Santana. Dennis Santana was pretty good last season,
t sixteen saves in a two eighteen ear a, particularly
after Ben Dark got moved to the Yankees. How do
you view him as a top blank closer.

Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
Oh, You're probably not gonna like this, but I'm looking
at probably top twenty to twenty five.

Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
Really and it's not the leagues. I am not happy
with that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
No. Well, and it's not based on the two eighteen
era in the sixteen saves. That's not the problem. The
problem is he's a free agent heading into twenty seven.

Speaker 1 (01:22:34):
Oh okay, so you can follow this Bednar route.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
I think there's a strong possibility that there could be
a mid season move in the cards for Dennis Antanna. Okay,
he's coming off a very very one point four million
dollar contract. Yeah, okay, and hey, if he continues to
pitch that good hole, is he going to be in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 (01:23:01):
I didn't realize that it's going to I didn't realize
he was yep.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
Yeah, So that My problem isn't the skills, it's not
the opportunities. It's the fact that he might only be
in a position to earn saves for half a season.
And that's where my concern lies with Dennis and Danbridge.

Speaker 1 (01:23:20):
Yeah, but I think he could probably still get fifteen
to twenty saves by the time he's moved. If he's
moved at the deadline. Now, obviously, if he's moved that
prior to the season, that's that's gonna screw it up
for everybody. Right, because I doubt he'll become a closer.
I guess if you moved to Detroit that might be interesting,
but would they trade in division, et cetera. I'm sorry.
He's on the National League Central, so yeah, that might work.

Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
Yeah, but then again, you'll shadow your will of st
dreams and mine too.

Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
But that's that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
Yeah. Yeah, but you know he saved sixteen games basically
in half a season this year, right, So I don't
think I think he's going to save fifteen to twenty
games in Pittsburgh if he starts the season as a closer.
I think they'll get he'll be it'll be a deadline
type deal. So yeah, he's he's going to earn saves,

(01:24:11):
but I don't think there's a full inning of them there.
If I thought there was a full inning there, he'd
be closer to ten to fifteen, he'd be somewhere in
that range.

Speaker 1 (01:24:19):
Okay, So right, So we're looking at a top twenty
to twenty three closer twenty with maybe a chance for
twenty twenty to low twenties kind of save opportunities assuming health.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
Yeah, yeah, I like him. I'm just I just wanted
to bring up the fact that I'm concerned that he
won't have a closer job for the.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
Full Very fair, give me a sleeper in the organization
minor or major.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
Well, we already took care of tomorrow Johnson.

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
Anything else you want to say about him?

Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
No, not really. I think I we'll be discussing him
this week, so we can let the listener wait a
few days, can't we? Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:24:58):
Sure? Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:25:01):
Uh, don't get in my opinion and not yours. But
that's okay, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
And that's the right opinion to get okay. Uh, Jared
Jones is going to make my Waiver Wire article in
early May.

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
But when does he come back from Tommy john I
think he had brace surgery. Do you know when he
went when he had their brace surgery?

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
Uh? I believe his scheduled return is early in the season.
That's why I put early May. Okay, and the and
the other guy. And this fits into the other guy
I wanted to match you mentioned, And this fits into
Dennis Antenna. Uh. In leagues that use holds, account holds

(01:25:44):
and per se, he was in this and half look
at Isaac Mattson, He's going to be your setup guy
in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
Isaac Mattson.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
Yes, interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:25:55):
I don't know a lot about Isaac Matson.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
If I was doing an early draft and hold, he'd
be the sort of guy that I would love between
say round forty and fifty that has the potential to
give you really good numbers in the second half. Now,
granted it could blow up. There's so many variables involved,
but if I'm going to throw a dart at somebody,
I might as well and I'm going with my Dentis

(01:26:21):
and Tanna story, I might as well go for the backup, right.

Speaker 1 (01:26:25):
Isaac Mattson came up as a Baltimore Orioles already twenty
nine years old. Huge, So he came up as an
oriole in twenty twenty one four and a third innings
in relief, and then it come back until twenty twenty four,
back to the major league. So let's see what his
baseball savant looks like, shall we? Shall we?

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
Ten? Yeah, I was I was just coughing up along,
so yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
That's okay. Sorry, Yeah, I'm sorry for that. But it
was supposed to be podcast, so that hasn't happened. I
apologize for that. So let's see here Isaac Mattson looks
like he is a curveball pitcher primary No. Four seamer
up to ninety averages ninety four up to ninety six.

(01:27:18):
Change up good, No, not a good change up. So
he's fastball change up slider guy. Nothing really plus maybe
his slider is his best secondary pitch average velocity here,
what's his expected era? So it's two forty six ear
a expected era three twenty seven, which is pretty good.

(01:27:41):
So it looks okay. I don't know if he's core
asing material, but he looks okay.

Speaker 2 (01:27:46):
Yeah, the big pluses he plays for the Pirates.

Speaker 1 (01:27:52):
I just don't know how good he is.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
Yeah, it should give him opportunities, yeap when you look
at the rest of the Pirates moull Man, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
Yeah, yeah, So anyway, so good good call there right
to me, it's like a break you got anybody else?

Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
No, No, that's I think we beat Pittsford to death
pretty much, bitch so.

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
Tamar Johnson Jared Jones. By the way, Jared Jones had
brave surgery on May twenty first, so that would be yep. Yeah,
I type in my notes so people know who you picked.
It's take a break, come back and oh she's already
had an hour and a half to me. Sorry about that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
That's no problem at all. Us I got a.

Speaker 1 (01:28:42):
Fine final system for the National League center would be
the Saint Louis Cardinals. Same question I pretty much had
for Connor Griffin. When do the Cardinals call up JJ
Weatherhold and where does he play? Second base, third base, shortstop,
et cetera.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
Uh well, this this is a tough one. I The
Cards have got to do some moving around Nolan. Aaron
Ilo was two years with thirty million left on his
contract and the Cards have said they're not buying them out. Okay,
So Aaron Idol is going to be on that team.

(01:29:21):
Mason when he's coming off knee surgery. How is he
going to look in the spring. We won't know until
the spring, but my thoughts are, if the Cards want
to utilize JJ Weatherhold, it's got to be at second base,
which means moving Donovan into a super sub rule. Okay,
Donovan was one of the better players last year. It

(01:29:42):
is it. It's tough finding room with the current roster
configuration in Saint Louis. So I'm I'm only going with
two hundred and fifty at bats for JJ Weatherhold this year.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
No boo, have a boo.

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
I know I'm saying boo too. I'm not happy, But
where where did you play? Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
I think he's going to be after six weeks in
the league, He'll be the best offensive player on that team.
They have got to find a spot for him. I
think Donovan is a good call. Maybe they move Donovan
to the outfield. Maybe Mason Winn can't come back healthy,
so he starts there.

Speaker 2 (01:30:28):
And J. J.

Speaker 1 (01:30:29):
Weatherhall is a is a great baseball player, showed what
he could do with the minor league. Should have been
up at the end of the season. I'm not sure
again why he wasn't. He's a good shortstop too, so
I cannot believe that he is not out of the
three guys you mentioned, after three or four months in
the league, will not be by far the best player.

(01:30:50):
And if the if the Cardinals can't find a spot
for him, if I'm a Cardinals fan, I'm furious.

Speaker 2 (01:30:57):
Yeah, well let's let's raise it. If me's and wins healthy,
he's not taking the short stock job. Mason wins defensively,
and yeah, it's just not going to happen. And if
they have to hold on to air now you know,
he's going to be at third base, and right now
they got Donovan a second So where can Weaerhold play
in the outfield?

Speaker 1 (01:31:15):
I don't think he's ever played in the outfield.

Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
Yeah, so yeah, it's like, how do you predict how
do you predict five six hundred of bets for GJ.
Weatherhold even though he's ready for five to six hundred
of bats? You know what I mean? It's like, are
they going to bring him up to DH?

Speaker 1 (01:31:32):
I just can't believe that they're that stupid that they would.
I'm just refuse to believe that. And you could say, yeah,
history is not on my side in that statement. I
get you, I get you, But I just think he
is a different cat and they've got to find a spot.
Maybe maybe he does come up as a DH, but
maybe maybe they move Aeronada to a DH role because

(01:31:55):
he's kind of lost a step at third base. I
don't know. Maybe your Aeronymus the first base I think
that's yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:32:01):
I think I haven't Heraros slotted in at DH. By
the way, Brandon donov is also their leadoff at Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:32:09):
Yeah, I mean I hear what you're saying. It makes
a lot of sense, Like just how can you how
can you potentially keep a guy that could be your
cornerstone for the future down when he is clearly ready?

Speaker 2 (01:32:24):
Yeah, I yeah, I I don't have an answer to
that question, but I think there's a possibility that they
find some way to do exactly that, and they didn't
bring them up last fall, which doesn't which sort of
supports my thought process.

Speaker 1 (01:32:39):
I guess it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:41):
Yeah, you know what I mean. So I'm yeah, I'm
trying to get sort of all my ducks in a
in a row, but I don't like the role I'm
putting them in. Does that make sense?

Speaker 1 (01:32:51):
I mean, look, you're bringing up facts that are true.
These are not alternative facts, these are real facts. And yeah,
and the setup is not great for if you want
JJ Weatherhold, I get that. It makes total sense what
you're saying. I just don't believe it, you know, I
just refuse to believe that that they're all of that,

(01:33:13):
all of those sacks that you are.

Speaker 2 (01:33:18):
Yeah. Yeah, if it was me, I would move Donovan
into a super sub role, but weather Hold at second
base and have him break camp at second base away
you go.

Speaker 1 (01:33:27):
Now, what you would do is find a way to
get out of Nolan air the Nolan Aeronauto deal. So
what does the thirty million dollars You say, we'll pick
up twenty of the Yes, I'll pick up twenty of it.
Somebody else pick up ten of it and be done
with it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:43):
Yeah, but Saint Louis has emphatically stated that they're not
buying them out. He's he's there. Yeah, the ideal situation.
You're right, Saint Louis should say, okay, Nolan, this this
ain't working or moving in a different direction. He got
thirty one mil left on the contract. Here's your thirty
one mil a still of eastadt in the way you go.

Speaker 1 (01:34:06):
So he's signed for two more years or just the
one two two at thirty one or two together at thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:34:15):
One, a total of thirty one on two years.

Speaker 1 (01:34:21):
Come on, that's I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:34:24):
His contract was loaded low at the back end and
high at the high in the beginning middle.

Speaker 1 (01:34:31):
Well, then that makes I'm sorry, Tammy, that makes absolutely
no sense. I mean, surely he gets somebody to pay
a few million dollars a year for Nolan Aeronati. Still,
let's take a look at the data. Hear, He's probably
still a very good defender. I just went by and
didn't look at that. No, his sprints, his range is
still eighty one percent arm strength forty one, so he's
still a good defender. His average exivelocity was eighty six

(01:34:56):
point eight miles an hour last year, so the power
is gone. Exit velocity of the year before that was
just about the same, saying he has never hit the
ball very hard, has always gotten around by leverage, and
it's kind of starting to catch up to him. So
the power is that twelve sixteen is probably reasonable.

Speaker 2 (01:35:15):
Well, you know what they could do is they could
trade him to the Pirates.

Speaker 1 (01:35:20):
For Connor Griffin.

Speaker 2 (01:35:24):
God, yeah, yeah, ball schemes there we go.

Speaker 1 (01:35:26):
Yeah, it's interesting because no One Aeronata. I mean, we
just talked about Freddy Freeman. No One is only thirty
four years old, so all things considered, I mean, yes,
he's an older player, but I mean the downside that
the drop off really started last season when he was
thirty three years old, so in twenty twenty yeah, four.

Speaker 2 (01:35:48):
Sort of makes you wonder how many of how much
of all of the combination of all those spectacular plays
at third base, Okay, over the past ten twelve years,
how much has that taken out of his career at
the back end of.

Speaker 1 (01:36:03):
It, I could have, but team's got it. Sometimes teams
is just gonna make the.

Speaker 2 (01:36:10):
Yeah, well somebody's got it. Somebody in Saint Louis has
to make a decision, period, right, get some direction, get
some focus and move forward. They're moving, they're moving sideways.

Speaker 1 (01:36:22):
Yeah, they're not going to go anywhere. I'm sorry with
no oneer, not a being. You know, your your star
is the the time has passed, and maybe he has
a pickup this year coming up twenty twenty six. I mean,
you can see that happen every once in a while,
maybe it happens with him, but the date is not
supportive of that at all. The average ex of velocities
are going down the wrong direction, the speed is completely gone.

(01:36:44):
Looks like he's still a good defender, still makes good contact.
His walk rate has started to plummet as well. So
he's just not the same player.

Speaker 2 (01:36:54):
No, nope, Jimmy, yeah, yeah, yeah it is. But the cards,
I don't think he'll do it.

Speaker 1 (01:37:05):
So you said it's Jon fifty, you say it's two
hundred fifty plate appearances. It doesn't matter what the other
stuff he does, right, because if he's if he's only
going to get that few of at bats, then you
know it's a guy that you're not going to draft.

Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
Well, no, you're you're looking at Weatherhold. I think when
he does get up, will play every day. And what
I what I love about Weatherhold is the fact that
if you're in an OBP league, okay, the second that
he arrives and he's playing every day, you want him
in your in your lineup. Because my prediction on his
OBP is probably I think I've got three eighty or

(01:37:41):
something like that. Yeah, Yeah, he's he's a he's a
four hundred OBP. He's gonna flirt with four hundred over
his career, I think, and he's going to steal some
basses and hit for some pop. He's JJ. Weatherhold is
a great young player, but until the Cards figure out
what they're doing, he's he's season purgatory.

Speaker 1 (01:38:03):
Alex Burlson followed up his twenty one home run season
in twenty twenty four with nineteen more in a lot
fewer games. He makes excellent contact as well. Is this
who he is? A twenty home run to seventies type
of player with a handful of stolen basis or do
you think there's more in the tank.

Speaker 2 (01:38:21):
I think there could be more in the tank, but
I'm not confident that the Cards with the mess that
they've got will find a way to give him those
at beats. So I would be drafting him as a
twenty home run to seventy type player, taking anything more
than Simonus, which is.

Speaker 1 (01:38:38):
Still a pretty good baseball player by the way.

Speaker 2 (01:38:40):
Yep, yeah, oh, definitely, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:38:44):
Okay, all right, let's move on to the other one.
And this is kind of sad and not again not
that roster resource has all the answers. They're pretty good
at this everyone, I mean they their track history is
pretty good on this. But they got Jordan Walker listed
as a bench back bitch bad? Do you yea, this
is true?

Speaker 2 (01:39:01):
Tim, Uh yes, I do.

Speaker 1 (01:39:08):
So fantasy manager should avoid.

Speaker 2 (01:39:10):
Him then right now? Uh well, you got Burleson, you
got Lars Newtbar who apparently had foot surgery in the
off season their summation, and you got Victor Scott in centerfield.
Is Jordan Walker going to take at bats away from
anybody there? He might take them away from Burleson in

(01:39:31):
a platoon, okay, but he doesn't, you know, he's not
playing centerfield over Victor Scott, and I guess if Newt
bar is not healthy, there could be an opportunity there.
But I just my advice for people that have Jordan

(01:39:53):
they're looking at Jordan Walker is in a re draft league, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:40:00):
What about what about any league?

Speaker 2 (01:40:03):
Yeah, pray for a trade and hope for the best.
I don't I wouldn't. I wouldn't give up on him, Okay,
but at some point in time, you have you faced
with that decision. As long as he's in Saint Louis,
he's going to be sitting in your I don't know
how many at bats he's got, but I think you

(01:40:24):
got to hold on and hope for the best and
dynasty away in redrafts.

Speaker 1 (01:40:28):
Yeah, I've got I play in twelve dynasty leagues. And
for those of you who consider that too many, you're
absolutely right. He has owned in every dynasty league. So
I'm assuming if this holds true, people are going to
be moving on from I think he I mean, at
this structure, it just is this hasn't worked out.

Speaker 2 (01:40:52):
No, it hasn't. Again, the best thing that could happen
I believe right now is a trade and whether or
not the Cards will head in that direction. He's still young.

Speaker 1 (01:41:08):
Still young, he's still incredibly talented. He gets the ball hard. Yeah,
there's some raw skills there, but he needs different coaching.
Not to say that he's gotten bad coaching from the Cardinals.
I'm not saying that. He just needs somebody to help
him look at things a little differently and maybe he
can unlock some of his talent and turn it into
baseball skills. At the moment, he looks, he looks like

(01:41:30):
he's just blocked.

Speaker 2 (01:41:32):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:41:34):
Who's the closer for the Cardinals?

Speaker 2 (01:41:36):
Tim right now? It's rightly O'Brien. In my opinion, he'd
be the favorite, but I think the odds are maybe
fifty to fifty. They're pretty close to being a coin
to us on whether or not Ryan Helsley were returning.
I like Brian right now, but you like him over

(01:41:57):
Jojo Romero, Yes, I do. Yeah, Okay, it all depends
on where Helsley lands, and wherever Hellsley lands, he will
be the closer. And if it's Saint Louis and O'Brien,
as you said, okay, fair enough, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:42:13):
The final question, like a final question to have in
every system, is give me a sleeper in the organization
minor or major. Clearly one of THESJ Weatherhold. So I
think we've crossed that all the list.

Speaker 2 (01:42:26):
Yeah, this team's a mess, okay. And I looked at
options and there's only one player that and again they
haven't they haven't done anything with JJ Weatherhold. But there's
a kid they got in the minors that is not

(01:42:47):
all that far off. Yeah, Joshua Bias. That's the only
name that.

Speaker 1 (01:42:55):
He was the only other player to go twenty fifty
outside of Connor Griffin. So uh that from your your your,
your friend and mine.

Speaker 2 (01:43:02):
Bob king High, Yes, uh, I get all the emails. Yes,
I'm the.

Speaker 1 (01:43:11):
Exactly by the way, I will say, if I could
just interrupt for a moment, the Bob Kinghi send us
a video. Bob Kings I think is an f s
U graduate. So he's an alumni there, the alumnies, and
he goes to a lot of the games and apparently
Gary sheffield Son is playing there and he showed us

(01:43:31):
a video. Timmy, I mean it looked just like Gary Sheffield.
I mean it was amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:43:36):
Oh yeah, the same bat wiggle and yeah, it was.

Speaker 1 (01:43:40):
It was crazy, right, It's like, yeah, I think I
think my dad should. I have no idea if he's
any good or not. Haven't heard a ton about him.
But let's see.

Speaker 2 (01:43:50):
So well, you know, as partners in d L five,
we have a rule of that we got to find
a way. I gotta find a way somehow, okay, to
overpay for an f s you guys, to keep Bob happy.
And if it's you know, that's that's Hey, he's going
to be a target.

Speaker 1 (01:44:05):
You've got to overpay for f SU guys and Japanese players.
So that's quite it's quite a debacle. You guys got
not debacle. That's quite a problem you guys. Guys have
so well.

Speaker 2 (01:44:16):
Yeah, but you know what, we always managed to work
through it. And yeah, it's uh yeah, what you're.

Speaker 1 (01:44:22):
Going to find as a Japanese player needs to go
to f s U, then you then you can solve
two birds with one stone.

Speaker 2 (01:44:30):
Yeah. I was hoping Sazaki rin Tero was going to
go there, okay, and we could kill two it was,
but he went to Stanford, so yeah, it didn't work out.

Speaker 1 (01:44:39):
Must be smart if you went to Stanford, No offense, Bob.
The Stanfords an elite, elite school, so f y. I so, yes,
that's the yeah to say that anyway, we're off topic
to me, give me a sleeper. Yeah, so you got
Joshua Bias.

Speaker 2 (01:44:58):
Yeah, that's the only sleep for that. And you know what,
hopefully the Cards see through all of this mess and
find a way to get JJ Weatherhold into the lineup
every day early in the season. He's a he's a
great young player. I don't see a lot of flaws
in his game anywhere. And it's a shame that he

(01:45:22):
didn't get called up last fall, and it would be
just piling onto that shame from last fall if he's
not up early in the season.

Speaker 1 (01:45:31):
It was weird that he didn't get called up too.
I just just does didn't make any sense, even though yeah,
he's blocked and so forth. But didn't Mason win end
the season on the IL. I mean I didn't understand that.

Speaker 2 (01:45:44):
Yeah, they moved to Gaycy into shortstop. Yeah, I mean, okay,
he's not a natural shortstop, no, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:45:53):
I mean they did everything. They They clearly did not
want to bring him up for whatever reason. Maybe they
didn't want to start his clock. They're playing by the
old rules and not trying to win. There top three
in the Rookie of the Year to get an extra
pick that they're playing. Hey, we want to have this
guy controlled for seven years, so he's not going to
be up until May at the or middle of April
at the earliest. I'm not sure what game they're playing,

(01:46:14):
but it made little sense with the new collective bargaining
agreement in place.

Speaker 2 (01:46:21):
Yeah, the game is not they're playing is not conducive
to Wins. No, no, I don't know if.

Speaker 1 (01:46:28):
I don't know if it's a sleeper for me, but
I'm very intrigued by Ivan Herrera. I still I kind
of like the potential there. I know that pedro Pehas
is going to be your primary backstop, but Herreras should
be able to split time between catching and DH. I
think that guy can hit, and I think there's power there.
So he continues to intrigue me.

Speaker 2 (01:46:52):
You know where he's spenciled in right now? It's d H, Right,
yeah it is.

Speaker 1 (01:46:58):
But otherwise I'm looking had a pretty ordinary team. Alex
Burls and we talked get some interesting power. Wilsonturiers the
best years behind him. Mason Win could be a very
good player. Lars Newbar has never lived up to expectations.
Nolan aar and not have we talked about him? And
Victor Scott's a very very interesting guy that might go.
He might be the time. Is it gonna be the

(01:47:19):
top player drafting on that team?

Speaker 2 (01:47:24):
Uh, Sonny Gray's thirty six, so we can rule that
one out. Uh, I'm looking looking at that players, positional players. Yes,
he would be because Mason Win we don't know this,
you know, status of his knee, Yeah, right now, Victor

(01:47:44):
Scott would be the he'd be my number one pick
on the cards.

Speaker 1 (01:47:49):
Yeah. Wow. Thirty four stolen bases last season. I still
think there's a bit more, a bit more power there.
He only hit two sixteen, but a lot of that
was his babbot of two four but twenty four percent
strikeout right, nine percent walk rate. You can do a
lot worse than Victor Scott. Tommy, let's say, yeah, let's
take a final break and come back. Unless you have

(01:48:10):
something to add.

Speaker 2 (01:48:12):
Nope, I think we got her. We got her all covered.

Speaker 1 (01:48:16):
That's let's take a break, come back and wrap this up. Sorry, Tim,
We're almost in an hour and fifteen minutes to name
the off name for the World Series. To get back
at it, tomorrow and we're rooting for at least one

(01:48:36):
more victory for the uh Toronto Blue Jay. So mister
McLeod can spend three grand to go to the game.

Speaker 2 (01:48:44):
So that's the world and that's all it moves in hotel.

Speaker 1 (01:48:50):
Okay, Wow, sounds like fun.

Speaker 2 (01:48:53):
Yeh. Yeah, it's quite the opportunity. I'm hoping it goes
six games. As much as I hate for I will
get on a plane for game six.

Speaker 1 (01:49:02):
Yeah, for sure. It's not that long of a flight,
is it hour?

Speaker 2 (01:49:08):
It's two hours?

Speaker 1 (01:49:10):
Really?

Speaker 2 (01:49:11):
Wow? Well, yeah, when you got a one engine turbo proper.

Speaker 1 (01:49:14):
Yeah, a little squirrels back there pedaling along eye area.

Speaker 2 (01:49:20):
Yeah. The airlines motto was the first at the scene
of every accident. Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:49:28):
I remember flying once. I went from Pierre Pierre, South Carolina.
No where were the the the president's faces Mount Rushmore.
So I had a I had a business and Pierre,
South Carolina, South Dakota, which is the capital. Very nice
people there by the way, in South South Dakota. So

(01:49:50):
I decided to fly into Grand Rapids, which is okay,
I guess a little bit bigger city. So I had
like a real plane go because I hadn't seen the
Mount Rushmore since I was a kid. And I said, well,
let me go, let me go look at Mount Rushmore
and some other stuff around there. So I did that,
and then I took a small prop plane from Grand uh,

(01:50:13):
Grand Rapids to and I said Grand Rapids or some
grand wherever the to Pierre and and literally I was
the only person in the plane. There was all kinds
of boxes in the plane that were strapped in. It
was a cargo slash private passenger plane. And they gave
me a list to look at. They didn't tell me

(01:50:33):
any safety procedures, but just you know, showed me where
the you know, where the life preservers were and stuff
like that, and it's like parachutes. It was like good
luck and it was it was bare bones man. So
it was I'll never forget that. And we made it
obviously made it safe and uh. But that was my

(01:50:55):
trip from Grand something to to Pierre. So I've been
on those planes before.

Speaker 2 (01:51:01):
Ye I've only seen Mount Rushmore once and it was
from the Canadian side. There was no big deal. Four
butts up in the air.

Speaker 1 (01:51:10):
It's true, that's true. Actually, it's actually very cool. There's
actually down like.

Speaker 2 (01:51:17):
That's a Canadian joke. That's all. You see the backside
of the may from ours from looking down.

Speaker 1 (01:51:22):
So I was just riding around. I didn't want to
go to the Wax museums. That seemed weird. So but
down the street I saw where they were. There was
some Indian that they were doing a similar kind of
sitting buul. I think it was where they were doing, Yeah,
a similar carving in a stone. Similar carving in a stone,

(01:51:43):
And I said, well, this is pretty cool. It was
I think it's ten dollars or something. It was a
private entity and they've been working on this on this
carving for twenty twenty five years and it was all
like a third of the way done. But you could
see the guy's face and there were people up there, children,
but they didn't have any funding for this this thing,

(01:52:04):
and they were you know, they were basically, yeah, asking
for money to try to privately finish this thing. I
haven't checked. That was probably fifteen twenty years ago, and
hopefully it's done by now. But that was actually really
cool to see, so you can actually zero yeah it
see this. It was really big too to see what
was going on. So I digress, tell me what's for dinner?

Speaker 2 (01:52:29):
What's for dinner tonight? I honestly can say I haven't
a clue. I'm not feeling all that well, so I
know what I'm going to have, and that's probably toast. Sorry, Rich,
It's just just just one of one of those days
where no, I'm just not feeling like eating a whole lot,
so it's probably going to be toast. Yeah, I don't

(01:52:54):
think that's my apologies to the list.

Speaker 1 (01:52:56):
I'm looking at sitting bowl. That's not what I'm There's
a monument in a sitting bowl, but that's not It
must have been some other some other Indian and South
Dakota statue of I'm sorry too, statue of an Indian
in South Dakota. Oh there it is, crazy horse. Yeah,

(01:53:22):
crazy horse. I'm wearing a massive mountain carving your custard
that is still under construction and the dignity of the Earth. Yeah,
it's still under construction. How long has that been under construction?
I don't Wikipedia page that told me all of that,
sure will. Yeah, anyway, So yeah, that's that's what I

(01:53:42):
remember seeing. I haven't haven't progressed a much since since
twenty years, so it's amazing Yeah. Wow, it's the world
largest mountain carving. Yeah, his face is pretty good and
his fingers out there, and it's but the horse. They
have to work on the horse, given that it's crazy. Yeah,

(01:54:05):
that's important.

Speaker 2 (01:54:08):
Well yeah, and you know it's probably he's probably got
a stone cold stare.

Speaker 1 (01:54:13):
On right, He's got definitely definitely a stone cold stare.

Speaker 2 (01:54:16):
See when they started this is.

Speaker 1 (01:54:18):
I'm sorry to belabor this is. I found this to be.
This thing has been like being built forever about lasting them.
But I can't find It's when you need a Wikipedia page.
It gives you that high level stuff, you can't find it. So, Timmy,
you've disappointed me with with toast. I think we're having.
We had breakfast out this morning and a salad for much.

(01:54:41):
They would have a salad for dinner. But yesterday and
our little beach town right on the beach, they put
it in a new little bar. It's called the Sand
Beach Bar.

Speaker 2 (01:54:51):
I think.

Speaker 1 (01:54:53):
Okay, So we went there for the first time, I said,
so we said, what's good to have said? People seem
to like the cheese. Oh my word, Timmy, this cheese
steak was unbelievably good. I'm still thinking about this cheese.

Speaker 2 (01:55:07):
Steak, so they serve it on a butnon.

Speaker 1 (01:55:10):
Oh yeah, big big bun. Uh. It was really really good.
So that was I'm still like, I'm still full for
the cheese steak I had yesterday for lunch, but uh,
it was that good.

Speaker 2 (01:55:22):
So that you'll be returning to that restaurant.

Speaker 1 (01:55:26):
I will be returning to the bar is really it
was strictly a bar, you know, a bar that looked
out of the RoCE so uh so everything was kind
of pricey because they have to. I'm sure the rent
was was pretty high, but it was great.

Speaker 2 (01:55:39):
So yeah, that sounds cool.

Speaker 1 (01:55:42):
All right, Timmy, I'm gonna let you go because you're
you're ill, and we will come back later this coming week.
Tim and I will figure out what day works for him.
Maybe Friday, Tim and we'll talk off the air and
then we'll do the nationally Central prospects.

Speaker 2 (01:55:57):
Yeah, I think the plane that I'll be taking Friday
probably probably has.

Speaker 1 (01:56:01):
It's right, You've got that, So we'll have to do
it some other day besides Friday, so maybe Thursday or something.
So yeah, well we'll figure other day, Okay, Timmy, Be well, yeah, be.

Speaker 2 (01:56:12):
Safe, be well. Talk to you next week,

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