July 14, 2025 • 33 mins
Join Chris Welsh (@IsItTheWelsh) and Joe Orrico (@JoeOrrico99) as they tackle your questions live on Discord for the final time this season at fantasypros.com/chat.
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Intro - 0:00:00
Second Half Tips - 0:02:06
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Outro - 0:32:30
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Well, what's up friends, and welcome in to Fantasy Pros.
This is cleaning Up the Discord only show. I'm Chris
Welsh joined by Joe Rico as I have an all
season and we are here for the final cleaning up
of the season, all Star break. We wave goodbye to
just at least this show where we hang out on
Discord with all of our besties waiting for you guys
(00:27):
to produce the show and if not, we have to
babble on about what we want to talk about. But
I want you guys to remember Discord has got your
back in the football season, We've got Discord shows. I'll
be back on ericson and I will be starting up
our show in about probably about a month or so,
so it won't be long without And if you guys
want more, you just got to make sure to join
(00:48):
the Discord and it will justify more of these awesome
shows with myself and Joelrico. So Fantasypros dot Com slash
Chat that's where you sign up for the Discord tons
of free access to it. There is a pre side
if you want a few of the extras, but go
and check it out today for yourself. You make that
decision and come and be a part of the shows
in our amazing community. Mister Joe Rico, there is no
(01:11):
rest for us during the All Star break, really, But
how are you doing?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I'm doing very well, my friend. It's sad that this
is our last show, but it's been a good run.
I hope we get to run it back again next year.
It's been good talking to you guys, and I'll up
the chat, ask your questions and hop on stage. Be
on the pot of us. Because this is the final countdown.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Let me ask you. Let me start with a question
for you here. This positively and negatively, the All Star
break kind of represents, you know, the first and second half.
But what we know is it's numerically that's not actually
the case. There's less than half the games. But what
it also represents is a time where you get a
(01:52):
lot of checkouts. We're gonna have a period where there's
gonna be a handful of teams that are gonna look
at themselves and they're gonna go, I'm too far out,
I'm completely done. I can't do it. So you have
this weird dichotomy in fantasy baseball where you know there
is still so much more to be done. This is
where you win your league, but you also are going
(02:13):
to be battling with teams that are going to be
out of it, the trade market in general. FAB, What
is your top singular or multiple piece of advice in
the second half. Is it streaming? Is it FAB? Is
it aggression? Is it trade market aggression? Is it actually
(02:33):
maybe being a little bit more passive holding on to
your players longer. What do you think a couple keys
to winning this second half is?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I think the big one for me is understanding your
team and the construction of it. Where you are in
the standings, and especially for roto players, look at where
you are and what categories you need to make up.
If you are way behind in certain categories, maybe it's
time to give up on them. If you're a very
dead last and stolen bases or home runs or certain categories,
(03:03):
it might be time to give up on them. There
are certain categories where you can see that there is
a path for you to make a push up the standing,
so you target those particular categories. It's really about understanding
your team. If you're in fifteenth place in a fifteen
team league and you got thirty two roto points and
you maybe don't need to devote any more time to
that league. As crappy as it might sound, you know,
people say, well, there's a something to be had for
(03:25):
going from fifteenth to tenth if you can move up
in the standings of this part of the year. But
I think prioritizing those teams that actually have a shot
is what makes the most sense. You spend the most
time researching those teams as opposed to trying to have
some you know, moral victory by moving up a couple
points at the bottom of the standings, really understand your teams,
understands which ones have a shot, and then I think
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you give yourself the best chance to actually compete for
the league title or to finish in the money in
those spots where you actually legitimately have a chance. Just
about understanding where you have a chance. If you're in
tenth or eleventh place in a twelve time leads, it's
probably time to give up on that league.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I like the one of really understanding, having a true
understanding of your team, your needs, and whether you're punting
a strategy or going hard on a strategy like this
is the time to do it. Whether you do it
in the trademarket, whether you do it in the whether
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it's a trade market or the waiver market, whatever it is,
is just like really understanding the construction of your team
where your benefits are. Obviously rodos a little bit easier
because you physically look and you're like, okay, I'm in
this category. But it's making that understanding and coming to terms,
especially if you're head to head being like, all right,
I should let this go. If I'm consistently losing week
in and week out on saves, the save market is
(04:46):
kind of blah, and I've got maybe I drafted one
hero save guy and then I got it like one
or two other just middling, but I just consistently lose.
Maybe it is punting that category. Maybe you can sell
that closer to jump ahead in another spot. So I
think the understanding of your team is massive important, massively important,
and kind of in the same vein as being as
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active as you possibly can. Fantasy baseball is a grind,
and you've had a sea you feel like you've already
put in a full season. You've got this second half
of a season going where your twelve team league might
now be eight active, or your Rodo might only be
seven active in that, you've got to be as proactive
as possible and your ability to stream pitchers if you
(05:29):
don't have caps, paying attention to hot turnarounds, maybe not
dropping too instantly a player that's been solid for you know,
the shiny new toy, and as the season gets a
little bit further along, maybe having a little bit more
of a stomach for cutting your dead weight. That's what
(05:49):
fantasy baseball is all about, and you know all you're
gonna have to find a trendy. Every fantasy winner has
like one or two guys that they probably picked up
in August or September that's going to help carry them
in some capacity, whether they're the number one carrier or
top five on their fantasy team. So be active in that.
But just you know, a couple of little tricks of
the trade for this final run here, because baseball is
(06:12):
unlike any other It just it goes long and you
can have those leads, or you can have this great
team and it can fall apart, or I have had
a couple instances where I was I remember I was
a team Bog will remember this. I was a team
that was out of it in this one league I
sold off and it was a dynasty I sold off,
(06:33):
and then all of a sudden, because of some of
the pickups I made, I started winning. I squeaked into
the playoffs, and I ended up getting to the championship
on a team that I sold off three or four pieces,
just by having these like rentally waiver guys out there,
so you know, being proactive and understanding your team, it's
the key key point here, mister Joe Rico.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Absolutely yeah, And like you you kind of alluded to it,
like some of that dead weight, like you might have
been waiting for the whole season for Michael Hay to
turn it around, for Matt McClain to turn it around,
you know, Brenton Doyle.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
There's a lot of these.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Names, Ozzie Albi's, and it gets to a point where
it's like, well, maybe it's just not their year and
it's time to just move on from some of these
players as opposed to just waiting and waiting because they
were top one hundred draft picks. So I think part
of cutting that dead weight and moving on, like this
is a point of the year where it's like you've
given guys some rope, You've given them more than an
or about one hundred games at this point, and now
it's time where you can probably start to move on
(07:26):
from some of those guys who've been truly, truly disappointing.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Put a pin in the Ozzie one. That's a good
one because at the end here we want to answer
some of our listener questions. But I want to talk
about a few guys, and I'll just tease it right now.
Let's talk about Ozzy and some players. Are you comfortable
with them in the second half? Are you going to
buy into them being able to either turn it around
in a way that's worth buying or turn it in
around in a way that is worth holding. And I
think Ozzie's maybe the first one we can talk about.
(07:51):
But let's get to the audience here. Always under says,
hey should I pick up Zebi Junk? I was about
to say, is that the same person? But Zebby Comma
Junk or Schlitzler and drop Geo, Jacob Lopez or Shean.
So what do you think about the three potential pickups
versus the three drops? And then I'll go on to
(08:13):
the rest of the question after.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
So Zebby, I I don't know if there's been any
like new update on him or anything, but he was
really pretty disappointing earlier on when he was pitching this year.
I don't know that I'm going to be rushing out
to grab him necessarily. Junk and Schlitler are guys that
I am kind of interested in at this point, specifically
(08:37):
Schlitler if he's able to stick around playing for a
good team, because Junk is not gonna have a ton
of win opportunities out there in Miami. I think you'd
be all right to drop Lopez and Sheen and pick
up junkin Schlitler Dio. Assuming we're talking Lucas Giolito. I mean,
he's been really good, so I'd be holding onto him
over Zebby in this situation. But I think Junk and
Schlitler you can you can pick him up over Lopez
(08:57):
and Sheen.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I'd be fine with.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
That, completely agree Schlitler say his name very carefully when
we say it, one hundred percent, I would move over
those guys. He also said also option I could drop
our Darvish and Edward Cabrera or Profar. I'm definitely not
dropping Cambrera. I mean, we're kind of bracing for the injury.
I think I think we got it like Lopez and
(09:18):
she and are fine for those two. Like I'm not
sold on Darvish or anything like that, but I think
that's the move. Another question, and my final question, would
be should I drop Jacob Wilson and grab Nick Kurtz.
I've got both of them in a couple leagues, but
one league, I have another good shortstop, and I have
Sodastrom at first base. So should I grab Kurtz and
drop Jacob Wilson or Sodastrom or should I not add
(09:41):
Nick Kurtz? What do you think?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I can't believe that Nick Kurtz is still available is
bruly shocking. But what those options, I'd be all right
to move on from Soderstrom. I mean we haven't really
gotten much from him outside of that first run of
the season. I mean he's been serviceable, I guess, but
really that first month was unbelievable and then Ay was
(10:06):
a ninety four WRC, plus June was eighty seven. He's
had a pretty decent July so far. But I think
given the options, I think I'd prefer to drop Soderstrom.
I guess it really depends on that. On that shortstop situation,
and if you actually have to like sit one of
them every day, then I guess Wilson could be dropped
at that point. But my initial feeling here is to
drop Sodashrim for Kurtz. But Kurts being on the wire
(10:27):
is unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Agreed, completely agree. I do think there's probably spots for
Jacob Wilson, like you said, like maybe don't make sense.
You need like heavy counting stats and you know he's
never really playing okay, But I would just I'll take
Kurts over Sodastrom like in a vacuum, So I think
we're solid there. I cannot, and I agree with you.
I cannot believe Nick Kurtz is available. Can you know
(10:50):
what makes me sick too? I had just the other
day I did look at DK's draft odds before Rookie
of the Year and cam Smith had actually moved back
up to number one, which is great for me because
I placed a bet. I had placed a bet on
Christian Campbell and then before that though I had placed
a bet on cam Smith, great odds, very excited, but
(11:11):
because Jacob Wilson had been holding that thing. Can you
imagine if you would have jumped in on Nick Kurtz,
like a month or two, you probably got twenty to one.
And I'm not looking at the odds right now. I
can look it up here in a second, but I
cannot imagine that you didn't get incredible odds. And the
al side has just completely opened up. So let me
(11:32):
see if I can find it real quick under awards
Rookie of the Year Jacob. So they're all plus money,
all plus money now Jacob Wilson has the lead according
to DK at plus one ten. Cam Smith is plus
one forty yo. Nick Kurtz is still three and a
half to one right now, Roman Anthony, if you want
(11:53):
really fun odds, just throwing it out there, twenty five
to one as the Red Sox are winning games. But
like if you guys remember that was like a minus
like five hundred in favor of Jacob Wilson some time ago.
So Cam Smith is in play, and Nick Kurtz, I think,
is really in play, and I'm actually kind of shocked
we're still getting that good of odds. It's just when
(12:13):
players on the same team they can kind of eat
into each other. That actually might kind of speak well
to Cam Smith. If we're being honest, But what do
you think if you were placing If you're placing a
bet right now, at least you get plus money across
the board, who would you side within the Al Rookie
of the Year.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I mean, it's probably going to be kouraged the way
he's trending. The guy that's kind of interesting, honestly is
Carlos Narvaiaz in Boston, the catcher. He's playing phenomenal defense.
He's got eight home runs, he's hitting two seventy three.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
He's got the.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Same war as Jacob Wilson if you're looking at fangrafts
war or the lead in the American League. So I
think that he could be a dark horse potentially playing
in Boston going to get more media.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Love than playing in Sacramento. Potentially.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Cam Smith is also pretty interesting because he's been phenomenal.
Picked him up in a couple of places and he's
been a.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Fantastic Really you want to hear this, April's say, I'm
so sad. This is probably gonna be just if you
guys remember last year. I'm very proud of this even
though it didn't hit. But preseason I had bet Jackson
Merrill rookie of the Year seventeen U seventeen to one.
And if you guys remember, I have an autographed card
from Jackson, who inscribed my odds I got on it.
(13:22):
It's one of my favorite cards. I got Camp and
I think this is going to go the same way
I got cam Smith twenty five to one, and my bet,
they're not even offering any type of payout right now.
I guess because he's second. But I'm just staring at
this with a massive twenty five to one return and
he's second best odds right now, So I'm like, please,
Cam Smith, please let Kurtz and Jacob Wilson eat into
(13:44):
each other. My luck, he'll probably finish second and I'll
have another year where my amazing long shot bet doesn't
pay off. I'm they give me a nice buyout, I
might consider it, So it's.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Fine when you're working. Oh what el was Skis, wasn't it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Skeens wan, Yeah, there was a legit time where Skeens
and Merrill were going back and forth. I never got
offered a buyout on Meryll, and I probably would have
taken it if it would have been good, because he
had about a week or so where he was the
odds on favorite, but then it was like runaway skins
and it was very, very sad for my book Austin
(14:23):
Riley and CJ. Abrams. Is that a fair trade for
Miserowski and Bett's ten team Rodo keeper ten keepers in there?
So Riley Abrams for Bett's Miserowski. Which side do you like?
Speaker 2 (14:39):
It feels pretty fair on both sides. Honestly, I don't
know that I have a strong preference. I guess the
Riley side is probably safer just because Miserowski, like we've
talked about, or like Joe's talked about a lot, He's
gonna eventually need to have Tommy John surgery. You can't
be throwing one hundred and two with ninety seven miles
mile and our sliders and stay healthy forever.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
So yeah, you would say.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
That about Chris Sale, but that was I guess more
about his arm. It's it is a different situation.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
I mean, it was Sale throwing sliders at ninety seven.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
No, no, That's what I'm saying, Like you're right, like
the Sale throws more sweepy stuff, but it was it
was more of his arm action. But I just I
always remember every human being forever, which just like Chris
Zille is gonna have Tomy John. Criszill's and have Tommy John.
And it was just like okay, yeah, until.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
He did and then Bets, I mean Bets, Bets has
had kind of a down year. He's getting older, so
there is some risk on that side. With Riley and Abrams,
You're getting two guys who are fairly young. Riley should
in an ostensibly good offense going forward in Atlanta, although
I know that's not been true the last couple of years.
And you know, I think the Nationals offense is positioned
to be really good for the next couple of years
as well.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
As much as c J.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Abrams isn't somebody that I've always been a big fan of.
That side's probably safer, but I think value wise, it's
fair on both On both ends, I.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Think it's pretty fair. Bets is the oldest still, you know,
if he doesn't have a bounce back, it's not gonna
go well for his value. Abrams is really interesting. You
know what, I'm gonna just say, I think this is fair.
I kind of think the Miserowski Bets side might be
the sexiest ten team keepers. It's not quite a dynasty,
(16:13):
so all of these guys are keepers. Though I think
it's relatively fair. I actually might side slightly with the
Miserowski Bets side, especially if mis Like keeps going. But
you know, two really good young talents in Riley and Abrams,
I think it's relatively fair.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Hal asks what do you think I was going to say?
What do you think about him in the All Star Game?
Do you think about that?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
It's whatever? I mean, like, personally, I do agree. I
agree on the side of the players here that think
this is lame, like Pat Murphy defended it being like, hey,
come on, Goods, this is entertainment, and it's like yeah,
but it's also not like guys have bonuses attached to that.
So I think that if he takes away Now. Thank
(16:56):
god the Phillies paid out the All Star bonus to
Cris Sanchez, who one hundred percent should have been the guy.
For a guy to pitch twenty five innings and be
in the All Star Game if there was no one
else that was really worthy, if there wasn't a Chris Sanchez,
I don't know. I'm not going to cry about it.
I'm not going to like be up in arms and
be like, oh, these kids but I think Pat Murphy's
(17:18):
wrong and he's defending his guy. We can laugh that
Hobby Bayez is the starting center fielder and what has
he not played center in like forty games over Buxton,
But that was the fans choice, and I already think
that is moronic that we allow that to happen. This
was on the manager side they decided to do this.
I don't just think it's a flashy like you know, goofy,
(17:43):
a spectacle like it's supposed to kind of be a spectacle,
except players' money is attached to this, and it's kind
of like an honor. So I think they're they're wrong
in that aspect. But you know, like Misroowski's really cool,
he's awesome, He's fun to see. It'll be fun to see.
But you know, I do agree with the the players
in that, like Chris Sanchez should have had that spot.
I think they asked Ranger Suarez and he declined. After
(18:06):
this all happened, kind of probably like in a little
bit of a protest of it. But I don't know,
are you like a fan of this?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
No? I wasn't a fan of it.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I mean, not that it really matters, But like you said,
when things like incentives are tied to it, when there's
big money. I mean, fifty thousand dollars to them is
not as much as it is to us, obviously, but
it's still a good amount of money. So I'm glad
the Philly's paid up. I think it should have been Sanchez.
I've been a big Sanchez fan. But I think the
people who are like, well, this is gonna help like
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grow the game.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
You're getting a young, exciting pitcher.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
And I think that part is bs because most people
who are casuals who may or may not tune into
the game are not going to have any idea who
Miserowski is. Even if he throws a shutout in it,
They're not going to really care who he is. There's
casuals who are not really baseball fans necessarily, but there's
a lot of people who didn't even know who Mike
Trout was for a long time.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I mean, dude, the casuals aren't going to be like, well,
I'm not watching that. Wait, Mizzerrowski's in now, I'm watching Like,
no one's gonna do that, so give me a break.
Maybe it'll give you a TikTok reel or something exactly.
I don't know. I think it's silly. Just a reminder
to everybody. We got the live streams, and the live
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(19:15):
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I say, I don't know. I think we're going through
(19:36):
the end of this month. They got to be honest
with you. I'm not one hundred percent sure. There's a
lot of craziness going on, but I know we're going
to be here this week. There's I think we're post
All Star break. Then there's nothing going down. Perfect time
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(20:17):
house question, but we got l TB three with the
hand raised coming up on the chat LTB three, what
is up?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Brother?
Speaker 1 (20:25):
If you accept the thing and come up and hang
with us? Right after we were talking all Star Misraowski.
So I wonder if this is like an all Star
based question or if we'll even get it because he's
got to accept it and come up here, going once,
going twice, and let's see, let's try it one more time.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Did I like?
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Click it wrong?
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Sold?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Sold?
Speaker 3 (20:51):
All right?
Speaker 1 (20:52):
If you pop back up, you just let us know, brother.
I don't know what's going down, but let's get to
the next one. This was how what is strategy for
head to head with playoffs for young pitchers? He's got
schemes Crochet, Burns, Miz and Bubich. What would be your
strategy with two absolute banger of aces and Crochet and skins?
But then you got Burns Miz and I don't know
(21:14):
how you want to associate Bubitch in that, But what
would be your strategy with the young guys?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
So Schemes and Crochet, there's nothing to really do, I
don't think unless, like with all of these guys, there
is some risk of shutdown. It's kind of mitigated for
Crochet because he's pitching for a competitive team, whereas with
the others it's kind of a kind of competitive Cincinnati,
I guess. I think they've been decent and they're kind
of in the mix, and since and Milwaukee is in
(21:43):
the mix, yes, but I don't know that they're going
to want to really risk anything with a guy like Miserowski,
and I think the same thing with Burns. They'll probably
not be shut down at all, But there is a
risk with any of these young guys.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
At the end of the year, teams.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Start to get a litle bit nervous and start throwing
them like four innings, three innings. We saw it last
year with Crochet when you start to push up against
innings limits. So that's a possibility. Bubitch, I think, is
the riskiest of this whole group, just because he is
already kind of pushing up on his innings where you'd
expect him to be for the entire year, just based
on where he's been the last couple of seasons. So
Buobach is somebody like I would be trying to actively
(22:21):
sell the other guys varying degrees of risk. I guess
Misrowski's probably fine, but I don't know. There is some
risk with all of them. If you get a nice offer,
especially if you get offered a hitter for any of them,
or a pitcher who is on a competitive team, a
truly competitive team, I think that makes a difference.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
But there is risk with all of these guys. There
really is.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
I would definitely look to consolidate, especially Misroowski. I think
Misrowski's value is so high. He's an All star. He
looks incredible out there. I have to imagine there's some
form of a cap that's in play. I will say,
the Brewers need him, so I would listen if someone
is really paying up burn I don't know if Burns'
value is worth moving off what he potentially could provide,
(23:02):
but I'm listening. I'm paying attention to the wire, and
I'm really in the market to see if there's some
like big type of trade that I can pull off.
Especially for Mizerowski specifically, and as Hall said, you know,
the four wins for Skeens is killing it, absolutely is.
That's why I still hold that that Zach Wheeler bet
that I brought up a long time ago Joe on
(23:24):
the Betting Pros episode we did is the play because
how and how can how first can Paul Skeens be
the favorite cy Young with four wins? But also how
can he win the award if he doesn't cross ten
wins overall comparative to what like Zach Wheeler is doing
or you know, even if you want to get into
logan web, I just I think betting against Skeens on
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the cy Young is the best play with how bad
that team is and four stupid wins for Skins, like legitimately,
like what does he got maybe thirteen fourteen more wins?
Like he has to win more than fifty percent of
his games to get to double digits, which is it's.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Crazy, yeahs pro, he started twenty games and the usual
numbers thirty two sometimes thirty three starts, so yeah, he's
got to win at least fifty percent. I think that
Wheeler is going to be the cy Young winner. I've
bet it myself. Numbers are close enough with him and
with Skins. It depends on what metrics you look at specifically,
some of them Skiings is better, some of them. Whe
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Wheeler has a better SIERRA, he's a better strike up.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Minus walk rate.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Skeens has a higher war he has a better FIP.
So it kind of depends on which stats you look at.
But Wheeler has been here for a long time. He's
been a finalist for the award. He's thirty five years old.
I think in the minds of the voters, this might
be one of the last times and not the last time,
that Wheeler puts up a season of this caliber, whereas
with Paul Skeins, we're probably going to see ten or
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twelve more seasons of this caliber. So I think the
voters are going to probably lean towards Wheeler if the
underlying numbers are the same, especially because Wheeler has nine
wins in nineteen starts. He's probably going to finish with
he sixteen something like that.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
He's good. The current odds on Favorite now it's moved.
He's minus one twenty five. But Skeins is also minus
money at minus one oh five, So that's how close
this can change last hall Ittt also said like how
many more starts will he go? Five or more innings?
I think they're really ratcheting down his innings right now.
I think he'll kind of pair back up. But it's
fair they're really babying Paul Skins right now. And you
know what do they have to vuy for outside of
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him winning a cy Young which but I think don't
make too much into that big dances. I have at
least eight points in every category. Things to you guys
currently in first place at ninety points. Just wanted to say,
appreciate all the work you all put in. Oh, I
appreciate that man that's so nice to you. And he
had a question below saying which spar starting pitcher would
you guys keep? I've got Hunter Brown or which three
starting pitchers? Hunter Brown, Freddy Peralta, Yuri, Pez Miserawski. I'm
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leaning towards trying to trade Miserawski for a first baseman,
maybe Naylor, vinp Kurtz. So I guess the question is
is Miserowski who's on the outs here? Miserowski or Yuri?
If you're keeping three pitchers, I mean Hunter Browns hasn't
been pitching well, but he looks like you'd be like
the number one.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
One on the outs for me, would probably be peralta
of these guys.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
It's hard to well, yeah, I think I'm kind of
with that one maybe, But I'm also I like the
idea of trading Miserowski and even in a small keeper,
but aim higher. See if you can aim higher than
the guys that you're looking at, that's what I think
you should.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
We're going to overpay.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
People are going to overpay for Maserowski right now, with
all the hype and all the people putting him in
like the top twenty pitching rankings. He's brilliant. He is
absolutely brilliant. But I think you'd be able to get
like a top thirty or forty overall player for him
in the right deal.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Agreed a last one here. In my first Roadow League ever,
I've ranked eighth in saves, fourth and homers first, and
stolen base eri whip first and win oh so first
in stolen base eri whip first and wins second, a
batting average third and RBI and last in saves right now,
but projected to be seventh in saves should I forget
homers and saves and focus on keeping this standing where
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I'm at, or maybe try to get homer and RBIs
up even if it drops drops to second in stolen base,
in third and batting average. So the question is which
side are you going sans getting away from homers and
saves and try to boost up the other categories or
kind of hold suit.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I'd forget about any projections for saves because it's a
complete crap shoot and anybody, even the most accurate projections
for saves are not going to be able to predict
anything there.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I think of how many guys might become new closers
in the next three weeks. You might have three or
four new closers on teams that sell off relievers that
are in front exactly.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Bednar might not be a closer Ken who knows what's
going to happen over the next few weeks, So there
could be some opportunity on the waiver wire to kind
of make up ground in that case. So I think
you kind of have to just evaluate your league for
the next little while, see who's available, See among the
closers in the league who you might be able to
pick up, because I think you could viably just punt it.
It sounds like it's an eight team league just based
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on the way you're describing eighth and last.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
So the fact that you're.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
First in the other you know, in four of the
other category, second in batting average, I'm assuming you're winning
this league. So I think you do have a little
bit of leeway here to kind of see where the
market goes with saves, if there's somebody you could pick up,
if there's perhaps a trade. Because you mentioned your first
and stolen bases, maybe there's a stolen base guy that
you can trade off and try and boost up your
saves a little bit. But I think you do have
the luxury just projecting where you probably are in the
(28:24):
standings to kind of just play it out until the
trade deadline and just evaluate your team over the next
couple weeks, and also just to see who becomes available.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
I couldn't add any much more to that. I think
that's really great analysis. Quick let's do some quick hitting
at the end second halfs buy or sell these players
we mentioned Ozzie Albi's. Ozzie Albi's has just struggled on
the year. Do you think you can trust in holding
onto Albi's or do you need to just let go?
So even outside of just buy, I'm not gonna even
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ask you to buy. If you're an Albi's owner, do
you hold for a second half or are you worried
that it's been so bad and this team is probably
selling off that you don't want any part of it.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
I don't know that I don't want any part of it,
but I think that we're getting to a point where
there's not really much to hold out hope for. The
team has been awful, and any sample size you look at,
whether you break it down by the last couple of weeks,
by the whole season, Atlanta has been miserable, miserable this year. Offensively,
they are the eighteenth ranked team of the ninety seven
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WRC plus. So the surrounding environment's not helping him, and
he's not helping you. Seven homers and seven steals. I
guess it's not the end of the world if he
finishes doubling that and it's like fifteen and fifteen. But
he's hitting two twenty his twenty nine RBI, his on
base percentage is two ninety. He's never getting on base
to be scored. You know, the data has gone in
the wrong direction in terms of the barrel rate, in
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terms of the hard hit rate. If you look at
the plate discipline metrics, they're not too far off from normal.
You know, zone contact, oh, swing swinging, strike rates, they're
all about normal. But he's just not making good contact.
You know, a three percent barrel rate, twenty nine percent
hard hit rate, that's pretty terrible. He's barreled up eleven
balls the entire season. So I just don't know that
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there's really much hope and thinking he's gonna turn around
this year. There's a good chance on buying back in
on him next year, just you know, expecting that price
to go down into probably the one fifty to one
seventy range.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Overall.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
I'll probably have a couple shares next year. But I
think this year you're most most of the listeners are
probably in ten or twelve team leagues.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
You don't have to wait around anymore. I think you
can cut eight all.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Right, A couple more quicker hitters Mookie Bets. Mookie Bets
has not been the Mookie Bets that we've known. Joe
and I talked about it on the trade video. Two
forty four eleven homers, six stolen bases. Are you a
buyer of a bigger seller second half on Mookie Bets,
or do you think we're going to get a lot
more of what we've gotten in the first half.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I am not overly optimistic the fact that he's still
in a great lineup, like he has fifty six runs,
forty five ribbi. Those are going to be fine by
the end of the year. But again, another guy who's
just not making great contact. Five percent barrel rate, thirty
five percent hard hit rate. I don't think he's gonna
be somebody that you're ever dropping. But I don't think
we're getting prime Mookie Betts probably ever again.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
At this point. He's gonna be thirty three years old
pretty soon.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Dylan Cease It is one of the worst qualified ras
out there. He's near the top. Expected numbers are still
so dramatically better than what he's putting out. Are you
buying or selling Dylan Ceese in the second half.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
I'm still buying all the expected numbers, like you mentioned,
are still good. Three sixty nine FIP is very good.
His Sierra at three forty one is the best of
his career. The walks are not a big problem. He's
giving up ten percent barrel rate, which is a problem,
but you know, just based on a lot of the numbers,
he's still getting whifts outside of the zone. The swinging
strike rate is still good. The stuff is still good.
I'm a big buyer on Dylan Ceas right.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Now buys and sells. We got the video for you
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Joe pie Zepia and myself are talking about three buys,
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Well, what's up friends, and welcome in to Fantasy Pros.
This is cleaning Up the Discord only show. I'm Chris
Welsh joined by Joe Rico as I have an all
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(01:11):
rest for us during the All Star break, really, But
how are you doing?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I'm doing very well, my friend. It's sad that this
is our last show, but it's been a good run.
I hope we get to run it back again next year.
It's been good talking to you guys, and I'll up
the chat, ask your questions and hop on stage. Be
on the pot of us. Because this is the final countdown.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Let me ask you. Let me start with a question
for you here. This positively and negatively, the All Star
break kind of represents, you know, the first and second half.
But what we know is it's numerically that's not actually
the case. There's less than half the games. But what
it also represents is a time where you get a
(01:52):
lot of checkouts. We're gonna have a period where there's
gonna be a handful of teams that are gonna look
at themselves and they're gonna go, I'm too far out,
I'm completely done. I can't do it. So you have
this weird dichotomy in fantasy baseball where you know there
is still so much more to be done. This is
where you win your league, but you also are going
(02:13):
to be battling with teams that are going to be
out of it, the trade market in general. FAB, What
is your top singular or multiple piece of advice in
the second half. Is it streaming? Is it FAB? Is
it aggression? Is it trade market aggression? Is it actually
(02:33):
maybe being a little bit more passive holding on to
your players longer. What do you think a couple keys
to winning this second half is?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I think the big one for me is understanding your
team and the construction of it. Where you are in
the standings, and especially for roto players, look at where
you are and what categories you need to make up.
If you are way behind in certain categories, maybe it's
time to give up on them. If you're a very
dead last and stolen bases or home runs or certain categories,
(03:03):
it might be time to give up on them. There
are certain categories where you can see that there is
a path for you to make a push up the standing,
so you target those particular categories. It's really about understanding
your team. If you're in fifteenth place in a fifteen
team league and you got thirty two roto points and
you maybe don't need to devote any more time to
that league. As crappy as it might sound, you know,
people say, well, there's a something to be had for
(03:25):
going from fifteenth to tenth if you can move up
in the standings of this part of the year. But
I think prioritizing those teams that actually have a shot
is what makes the most sense. You spend the most
time researching those teams as opposed to trying to have
some you know, moral victory by moving up a couple
points at the bottom of the standings, really understand your teams,
understands which ones have a shot, and then I think
(03:47):
you give yourself the best chance to actually compete for
the league title or to finish in the money in
those spots where you actually legitimately have a chance. Just
about understanding where you have a chance. If you're in
tenth or eleventh place in a twelve time leads, it's
probably time to give up on that league.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I like the one of really understanding, having a true
understanding of your team, your needs, and whether you're punting
a strategy or going hard on a strategy like this
is the time to do it. Whether you do it
in the trademarket, whether you do it in the whether
(04:25):
it's a trade market or the waiver market, whatever it is,
is just like really understanding the construction of your team
where your benefits are. Obviously rodos a little bit easier
because you physically look and you're like, okay, I'm in
this category. But it's making that understanding and coming to terms,
especially if you're head to head being like, all right,
I should let this go. If I'm consistently losing week
in and week out on saves, the save market is
(04:46):
kind of blah, and I've got maybe I drafted one
hero save guy and then I got it like one
or two other just middling, but I just consistently lose.
Maybe it is punting that category. Maybe you can sell
that closer to jump ahead in another spot. So I
think the understanding of your team is massive important, massively important,
and kind of in the same vein as being as
(05:07):
active as you possibly can. Fantasy baseball is a grind,
and you've had a sea you feel like you've already
put in a full season. You've got this second half
of a season going where your twelve team league might
now be eight active, or your Rodo might only be
seven active in that, you've got to be as proactive
as possible and your ability to stream pitchers if you
(05:29):
don't have caps, paying attention to hot turnarounds, maybe not
dropping too instantly a player that's been solid for you know,
the shiny new toy, and as the season gets a
little bit further along, maybe having a little bit more
of a stomach for cutting your dead weight. That's what
(05:49):
fantasy baseball is all about, and you know all you're
gonna have to find a trendy. Every fantasy winner has
like one or two guys that they probably picked up
in August or September that's going to help carry them
in some capacity, whether they're the number one carrier or
top five on their fantasy team. So be active in that.
But just you know, a couple of little tricks of
the trade for this final run here, because baseball is
(06:12):
unlike any other It just it goes long and you
can have those leads, or you can have this great
team and it can fall apart, or I have had
a couple instances where I was I remember I was
a team Bog will remember this. I was a team
that was out of it in this one league I
sold off and it was a dynasty I sold off,
(06:33):
and then all of a sudden, because of some of
the pickups I made, I started winning. I squeaked into
the playoffs, and I ended up getting to the championship
on a team that I sold off three or four pieces,
just by having these like rentally waiver guys out there,
so you know, being proactive and understanding your team, it's
the key key point here, mister Joe Rico.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Absolutely yeah, And like you you kind of alluded to it,
like some of that dead weight, like you might have
been waiting for the whole season for Michael Hay to
turn it around, for Matt McClain to turn it around,
you know, Brenton Doyle.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
There's a lot of these.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Names, Ozzie Albi's, and it gets to a point where
it's like, well, maybe it's just not their year and
it's time to just move on from some of these
players as opposed to just waiting and waiting because they
were top one hundred draft picks. So I think part
of cutting that dead weight and moving on, like this
is a point of the year where it's like you've
given guys some rope, You've given them more than an
or about one hundred games at this point, and now
it's time where you can probably start to move on
(07:26):
from some of those guys who've been truly, truly disappointing.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Put a pin in the Ozzie one. That's a good
one because at the end here we want to answer
some of our listener questions. But I want to talk
about a few guys, and I'll just tease it right now.
Let's talk about Ozzy and some players. Are you comfortable
with them in the second half? Are you going to
buy into them being able to either turn it around
in a way that's worth buying or turn it in
around in a way that is worth holding. And I
think Ozzie's maybe the first one we can talk about.
(07:51):
But let's get to the audience here. Always under says,
hey should I pick up Zebi Junk? I was about
to say, is that the same person? But Zebby Comma
Junk or Schlitzler and drop Geo, Jacob Lopez or Shean.
So what do you think about the three potential pickups
versus the three drops? And then I'll go on to
(08:13):
the rest of the question after.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
So Zebby, I I don't know if there's been any
like new update on him or anything, but he was
really pretty disappointing earlier on when he was pitching this year.
I don't know that I'm going to be rushing out
to grab him necessarily. Junk and Schlitler are guys that
I am kind of interested in at this point, specifically
(08:37):
Schlitler if he's able to stick around playing for a
good team, because Junk is not gonna have a ton
of win opportunities out there in Miami. I think you'd
be all right to drop Lopez and Sheen and pick
up junkin Schlitler Dio. Assuming we're talking Lucas Giolito. I mean,
he's been really good, so I'd be holding onto him
over Zebby in this situation. But I think Junk and
Schlitler you can you can pick him up over Lopez
(08:57):
and Sheen.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I'd be fine with.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
That, completely agree Schlitler say his name very carefully when
we say it, one hundred percent, I would move over
those guys. He also said also option I could drop
our Darvish and Edward Cabrera or Profar. I'm definitely not
dropping Cambrera. I mean, we're kind of bracing for the injury.
I think I think we got it like Lopez and
(09:18):
she and are fine for those two. Like I'm not
sold on Darvish or anything like that, but I think
that's the move. Another question, and my final question, would
be should I drop Jacob Wilson and grab Nick Kurtz.
I've got both of them in a couple leagues, but
one league, I have another good shortstop, and I have
Sodastrom at first base. So should I grab Kurtz and
drop Jacob Wilson or Sodastrom or should I not add
(09:41):
Nick Kurtz? What do you think?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I can't believe that Nick Kurtz is still available is
bruly shocking. But what those options, I'd be all right
to move on from Soderstrom. I mean we haven't really
gotten much from him outside of that first run of
the season. I mean he's been serviceable, I guess, but
really that first month was unbelievable and then Ay was
(10:06):
a ninety four WRC, plus June was eighty seven. He's
had a pretty decent July so far. But I think
given the options, I think I'd prefer to drop Soderstrom.
I guess it really depends on that. On that shortstop situation,
and if you actually have to like sit one of
them every day, then I guess Wilson could be dropped
at that point. But my initial feeling here is to
drop Sodashrim for Kurtz. But Kurts being on the wire
(10:27):
is unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Agreed, completely agree. I do think there's probably spots for
Jacob Wilson, like you said, like maybe don't make sense.
You need like heavy counting stats and you know he's
never really playing okay, But I would just I'll take
Kurts over Sodastrom like in a vacuum, So I think
we're solid there. I cannot, and I agree with you.
I cannot believe Nick Kurtz is available. Can you know
(10:50):
what makes me sick too? I had just the other
day I did look at DK's draft odds before Rookie
of the Year and cam Smith had actually moved back
up to number one, which is great for me because
I placed a bet. I had placed a bet on
Christian Campbell and then before that though I had placed
a bet on cam Smith, great odds, very excited, but
(11:11):
because Jacob Wilson had been holding that thing. Can you
imagine if you would have jumped in on Nick Kurtz,
like a month or two, you probably got twenty to one.
And I'm not looking at the odds right now. I
can look it up here in a second, but I
cannot imagine that you didn't get incredible odds. And the
al side has just completely opened up. So let me
(11:32):
see if I can find it real quick under awards
Rookie of the Year Jacob. So they're all plus money,
all plus money now Jacob Wilson has the lead according
to DK at plus one ten. Cam Smith is plus
one forty yo. Nick Kurtz is still three and a
half to one right now, Roman Anthony, if you want
(11:53):
really fun odds, just throwing it out there, twenty five
to one as the Red Sox are winning games. But
like if you guys remember that was like a minus
like five hundred in favor of Jacob Wilson some time ago.
So Cam Smith is in play, and Nick Kurtz, I think,
is really in play, and I'm actually kind of shocked
we're still getting that good of odds. It's just when
(12:13):
players on the same team they can kind of eat
into each other. That actually might kind of speak well
to Cam Smith. If we're being honest, But what do
you think if you were placing If you're placing a
bet right now, at least you get plus money across
the board, who would you side within the Al Rookie
of the Year.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I mean, it's probably going to be kouraged the way
he's trending. The guy that's kind of interesting, honestly is
Carlos Narvaiaz in Boston, the catcher. He's playing phenomenal defense.
He's got eight home runs, he's hitting two seventy three.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
He's got the.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Same war as Jacob Wilson if you're looking at fangrafts
war or the lead in the American League. So I
think that he could be a dark horse potentially playing
in Boston going to get more media.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Love than playing in Sacramento. Potentially.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Cam Smith is also pretty interesting because he's been phenomenal.
Picked him up in a couple of places and he's
been a.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Fantastic Really you want to hear this, April's say, I'm
so sad. This is probably gonna be just if you
guys remember last year. I'm very proud of this even
though it didn't hit. But preseason I had bet Jackson
Merrill rookie of the Year seventeen U seventeen to one.
And if you guys remember, I have an autographed card
from Jackson, who inscribed my odds I got on it.
(13:22):
It's one of my favorite cards. I got Camp and
I think this is going to go the same way
I got cam Smith twenty five to one, and my bet,
they're not even offering any type of payout right now.
I guess because he's second. But I'm just staring at
this with a massive twenty five to one return and
he's second best odds right now, So I'm like, please,
Cam Smith, please let Kurtz and Jacob Wilson eat into
(13:44):
each other. My luck, he'll probably finish second and I'll
have another year where my amazing long shot bet doesn't
pay off. I'm they give me a nice buyout, I
might consider it, So it's.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Fine when you're working. Oh what el was Skis, wasn't it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Skeens wan, Yeah, there was a legit time where Skeens
and Merrill were going back and forth. I never got
offered a buyout on Meryll, and I probably would have
taken it if it would have been good, because he
had about a week or so where he was the
odds on favorite, but then it was like runaway skins
and it was very, very sad for my book Austin
(14:23):
Riley and CJ. Abrams. Is that a fair trade for
Miserowski and Bett's ten team Rodo keeper ten keepers in there?
So Riley Abrams for Bett's Miserowski. Which side do you like?
Speaker 2 (14:39):
It feels pretty fair on both sides. Honestly, I don't
know that I have a strong preference. I guess the
Riley side is probably safer just because Miserowski, like we've
talked about, or like Joe's talked about a lot, He's
gonna eventually need to have Tommy John surgery. You can't
be throwing one hundred and two with ninety seven miles
mile and our sliders and stay healthy forever.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
So yeah, you would say.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
That about Chris Sale, but that was I guess more
about his arm. It's it is a different situation.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
I mean, it was Sale throwing sliders at ninety seven.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
No, no, That's what I'm saying, Like you're right, like
the Sale throws more sweepy stuff, but it was it
was more of his arm action. But I just I
always remember every human being forever, which just like Chris
Zille is gonna have Tomy John. Criszill's and have Tommy John.
And it was just like okay, yeah, until.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
He did and then Bets, I mean Bets, Bets has
had kind of a down year. He's getting older, so
there is some risk on that side. With Riley and Abrams,
You're getting two guys who are fairly young. Riley should
in an ostensibly good offense going forward in Atlanta, although
I know that's not been true the last couple of years.
And you know, I think the Nationals offense is positioned
to be really good for the next couple of years
as well.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
As much as c J.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Abrams isn't somebody that I've always been a big fan of.
That side's probably safer, but I think value wise, it's
fair on both On both ends, I.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Think it's pretty fair. Bets is the oldest still, you know,
if he doesn't have a bounce back, it's not gonna
go well for his value. Abrams is really interesting. You
know what, I'm gonna just say, I think this is fair.
I kind of think the Miserowski Bets side might be
the sexiest ten team keepers. It's not quite a dynasty,
(16:13):
so all of these guys are keepers. Though I think
it's relatively fair. I actually might side slightly with the
Miserowski Bets side, especially if mis Like keeps going. But
you know, two really good young talents in Riley and Abrams,
I think it's relatively fair.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Hal asks what do you think I was going to say?
What do you think about him in the All Star Game?
Do you think about that?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
It's whatever? I mean, like, personally, I do agree. I
agree on the side of the players here that think
this is lame, like Pat Murphy defended it being like, hey,
come on, Goods, this is entertainment, and it's like yeah,
but it's also not like guys have bonuses attached to that.
So I think that if he takes away Now. Thank
(16:56):
god the Phillies paid out the All Star bonus to
Cris Sanchez, who one hundred percent should have been the guy.
For a guy to pitch twenty five innings and be
in the All Star Game if there was no one
else that was really worthy, if there wasn't a Chris Sanchez,
I don't know. I'm not going to cry about it.
I'm not going to like be up in arms and
be like, oh, these kids but I think Pat Murphy's
(17:18):
wrong and he's defending his guy. We can laugh that
Hobby Bayez is the starting center fielder and what has
he not played center in like forty games over Buxton,
But that was the fans choice, and I already think
that is moronic that we allow that to happen. This
was on the manager side they decided to do this.
I don't just think it's a flashy like you know, goofy,
(17:43):
a spectacle like it's supposed to kind of be a spectacle,
except players' money is attached to this, and it's kind
of like an honor. So I think they're they're wrong
in that aspect. But you know, like Misroowski's really cool,
he's awesome, He's fun to see. It'll be fun to see.
But you know, I do agree with the the players
in that, like Chris Sanchez should have had that spot.
I think they asked Ranger Suarez and he declined. After
(18:06):
this all happened, kind of probably like in a little
bit of a protest of it. But I don't know,
are you like a fan of this?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
No? I wasn't a fan of it.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I mean, not that it really matters, But like you said,
when things like incentives are tied to it, when there's
big money. I mean, fifty thousand dollars to them is
not as much as it is to us, obviously, but
it's still a good amount of money. So I'm glad
the Philly's paid up. I think it should have been Sanchez.
I've been a big Sanchez fan. But I think the
people who are like, well, this is gonna help like
(18:35):
grow the game.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
You're getting a young, exciting pitcher.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
And I think that part is bs because most people
who are casuals who may or may not tune into
the game are not going to have any idea who
Miserowski is. Even if he throws a shutout in it,
They're not going to really care who he is. There's
casuals who are not really baseball fans necessarily, but there's
a lot of people who didn't even know who Mike
Trout was for a long time.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I mean, dude, the casuals aren't going to be like, well,
I'm not watching that. Wait, Mizzerrowski's in now, I'm watching Like,
no one's gonna do that, so give me a break.
Maybe it'll give you a TikTok reel or something exactly.
I don't know. I think it's silly. Just a reminder
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(19:36):
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(20:17):
house question, but we got l TB three with the
hand raised coming up on the chat LTB three, what
is up?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Brother?
Speaker 1 (20:25):
If you accept the thing and come up and hang
with us? Right after we were talking all Star Misraowski.
So I wonder if this is like an all Star
based question or if we'll even get it because he's
got to accept it and come up here, going once,
going twice, and let's see, let's try it one more time.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Did I like?
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Click it wrong?
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Sold?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Sold?
Speaker 3 (20:51):
All right?
Speaker 1 (20:52):
If you pop back up, you just let us know, brother.
I don't know what's going down, but let's get to
the next one. This was how what is strategy for
head to head with playoffs for young pitchers? He's got
schemes Crochet, Burns, Miz and Bubich. What would be your
strategy with two absolute banger of aces and Crochet and skins?
But then you got Burns Miz and I don't know
(21:14):
how you want to associate Bubitch in that, But what
would be your strategy with the young guys?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
So Schemes and Crochet, there's nothing to really do, I
don't think unless, like with all of these guys, there
is some risk of shutdown. It's kind of mitigated for
Crochet because he's pitching for a competitive team, whereas with
the others it's kind of a kind of competitive Cincinnati,
I guess. I think they've been decent and they're kind
of in the mix, and since and Milwaukee is in
(21:43):
the mix, yes, but I don't know that they're going
to want to really risk anything with a guy like Miserowski,
and I think the same thing with Burns. They'll probably
not be shut down at all, But there is a
risk with any of these young guys.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
At the end of the year, teams.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Start to get a litle bit nervous and start throwing
them like four innings, three innings. We saw it last
year with Crochet when you start to push up against
innings limits. So that's a possibility. Bubitch, I think, is
the riskiest of this whole group, just because he is
already kind of pushing up on his innings where you'd
expect him to be for the entire year, just based
on where he's been the last couple of seasons. So
Buobach is somebody like I would be trying to actively
(22:21):
sell the other guys varying degrees of risk. I guess
Misrowski's probably fine, but I don't know. There is some
risk with all of them. If you get a nice offer,
especially if you get offered a hitter for any of them,
or a pitcher who is on a competitive team, a
truly competitive team, I think that makes a difference.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
But there is risk with all of these guys. There
really is.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
I would definitely look to consolidate, especially Misroowski. I think
Misrowski's value is so high. He's an All star. He
looks incredible out there. I have to imagine there's some
form of a cap that's in play. I will say,
the Brewers need him, so I would listen if someone
is really paying up burn I don't know if Burns'
value is worth moving off what he potentially could provide,
(23:02):
but I'm listening. I'm paying attention to the wire, and
I'm really in the market to see if there's some
like big type of trade that I can pull off.
Especially for Mizerowski specifically, and as Hall said, you know,
the four wins for Skeens is killing it, absolutely is.
That's why I still hold that that Zach Wheeler bet
that I brought up a long time ago Joe on
(23:24):
the Betting Pros episode we did is the play because
how and how can how first can Paul Skeens be
the favorite cy Young with four wins? But also how
can he win the award if he doesn't cross ten
wins overall comparative to what like Zach Wheeler is doing
or you know, even if you want to get into
logan web, I just I think betting against Skeens on
(23:46):
the cy Young is the best play with how bad
that team is and four stupid wins for Skins, like legitimately,
like what does he got maybe thirteen fourteen more wins?
Like he has to win more than fifty percent of
his games to get to double digits, which is it's.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Crazy, yeahs pro, he started twenty games and the usual
numbers thirty two sometimes thirty three starts, so yeah, he's
got to win at least fifty percent. I think that
Wheeler is going to be the cy Young winner. I've
bet it myself. Numbers are close enough with him and
with Skins. It depends on what metrics you look at specifically,
some of them Skiings is better, some of them. Whe
(24:21):
Wheeler has a better SIERRA, he's a better strike up.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Minus walk rate.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Skeens has a higher war he has a better FIP.
So it kind of depends on which stats you look at.
But Wheeler has been here for a long time. He's
been a finalist for the award. He's thirty five years old.
I think in the minds of the voters, this might
be one of the last times and not the last time,
that Wheeler puts up a season of this caliber, whereas
with Paul Skeins, we're probably going to see ten or
(24:44):
twelve more seasons of this caliber. So I think the
voters are going to probably lean towards Wheeler if the
underlying numbers are the same, especially because Wheeler has nine
wins in nineteen starts. He's probably going to finish with
he sixteen something like that.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
He's good. The current odds on Favorite now it's moved.
He's minus one twenty five. But Skeins is also minus
money at minus one oh five, So that's how close
this can change last hall Ittt also said like how
many more starts will he go? Five or more innings?
I think they're really ratcheting down his innings right now.
I think he'll kind of pair back up. But it's
fair they're really babying Paul Skins right now. And you
know what do they have to vuy for outside of
(25:19):
him winning a cy Young which but I think don't
make too much into that big dances. I have at
least eight points in every category. Things to you guys
currently in first place at ninety points. Just wanted to say,
appreciate all the work you all put in. Oh, I
appreciate that man that's so nice to you. And he
had a question below saying which spar starting pitcher would
you guys keep? I've got Hunter Brown or which three
starting pitchers? Hunter Brown, Freddy Peralta, Yuri, Pez Miserawski. I'm
(25:44):
leaning towards trying to trade Miserawski for a first baseman,
maybe Naylor, vinp Kurtz. So I guess the question is
is Miserowski who's on the outs here? Miserowski or Yuri?
If you're keeping three pitchers, I mean Hunter Browns hasn't
been pitching well, but he looks like you'd be like
the number one.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
One on the outs for me, would probably be peralta
of these guys.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
It's hard to well, yeah, I think I'm kind of
with that one maybe, But I'm also I like the
idea of trading Miserowski and even in a small keeper,
but aim higher. See if you can aim higher than
the guys that you're looking at, that's what I think
you should.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
We're going to overpay.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
People are going to overpay for Maserowski right now, with
all the hype and all the people putting him in
like the top twenty pitching rankings. He's brilliant. He is
absolutely brilliant. But I think you'd be able to get
like a top thirty or forty overall player for him
in the right deal.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Agreed a last one here. In my first Roadow League ever,
I've ranked eighth in saves, fourth and homers first, and
stolen base eri whip first and win oh so first
in stolen base eri whip first and wins second, a
batting average third and RBI and last in saves right now,
but projected to be seventh in saves should I forget
homers and saves and focus on keeping this standing where
(26:58):
I'm at, or maybe try to get homer and RBIs
up even if it drops drops to second in stolen base,
in third and batting average. So the question is which
side are you going sans getting away from homers and
saves and try to boost up the other categories or
kind of hold suit.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I'd forget about any projections for saves because it's a
complete crap shoot and anybody, even the most accurate projections
for saves are not going to be able to predict
anything there.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I think of how many guys might become new closers
in the next three weeks. You might have three or
four new closers on teams that sell off relievers that
are in front exactly.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Bednar might not be a closer Ken who knows what's
going to happen over the next few weeks, So there
could be some opportunity on the waiver wire to kind
of make up ground in that case. So I think
you kind of have to just evaluate your league for
the next little while, see who's available, See among the
closers in the league who you might be able to
pick up, because I think you could viably just punt it.
It sounds like it's an eight team league just based
(27:58):
on the way you're describing eighth and last.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
So the fact that you're.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
First in the other you know, in four of the
other category, second in batting average, I'm assuming you're winning
this league. So I think you do have a little
bit of leeway here to kind of see where the
market goes with saves, if there's somebody you could pick up,
if there's perhaps a trade. Because you mentioned your first
and stolen bases, maybe there's a stolen base guy that
you can trade off and try and boost up your
saves a little bit. But I think you do have
the luxury just projecting where you probably are in the
(28:24):
standings to kind of just play it out until the
trade deadline and just evaluate your team over the next
couple weeks, and also just to see who becomes available.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
I couldn't add any much more to that. I think
that's really great analysis. Quick let's do some quick hitting
at the end second halfs buy or sell these players
we mentioned Ozzie Albi's. Ozzie Albi's has just struggled on
the year. Do you think you can trust in holding
onto Albi's or do you need to just let go?
So even outside of just buy, I'm not gonna even
(28:53):
ask you to buy. If you're an Albi's owner, do
you hold for a second half or are you worried
that it's been so bad and this team is probably
selling off that you don't want any part of it.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
I don't know that I don't want any part of it,
but I think that we're getting to a point where
there's not really much to hold out hope for. The
team has been awful, and any sample size you look at,
whether you break it down by the last couple of weeks,
by the whole season, Atlanta has been miserable, miserable this year. Offensively,
they are the eighteenth ranked team of the ninety seven
(29:27):
WRC plus. So the surrounding environment's not helping him, and
he's not helping you. Seven homers and seven steals. I
guess it's not the end of the world if he
finishes doubling that and it's like fifteen and fifteen. But
he's hitting two twenty his twenty nine RBI, his on
base percentage is two ninety. He's never getting on base
to be scored. You know, the data has gone in
the wrong direction in terms of the barrel rate, in
(29:48):
terms of the hard hit rate. If you look at
the plate discipline metrics, they're not too far off from normal.
You know, zone contact, oh, swing swinging, strike rates, they're
all about normal. But he's just not making good contact.
You know, a three percent barrel rate, twenty nine percent
hard hit rate, that's pretty terrible. He's barreled up eleven
balls the entire season. So I just don't know that
(30:10):
there's really much hope and thinking he's gonna turn around
this year. There's a good chance on buying back in
on him next year, just you know, expecting that price
to go down into probably the one fifty to one
seventy range.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Overall.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
I'll probably have a couple shares next year. But I
think this year you're most most of the listeners are
probably in ten or twelve team leagues.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
You don't have to wait around anymore. I think you
can cut eight all.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Right, A couple more quicker hitters Mookie Bets. Mookie Bets
has not been the Mookie Bets that we've known. Joe
and I talked about it on the trade video. Two
forty four eleven homers, six stolen bases. Are you a
buyer of a bigger seller second half on Mookie Bets,
or do you think we're going to get a lot
more of what we've gotten in the first half.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I am not overly optimistic the fact that he's still
in a great lineup, like he has fifty six runs,
forty five ribbi. Those are going to be fine by
the end of the year. But again, another guy who's
just not making great contact. Five percent barrel rate, thirty
five percent hard hit rate. I don't think he's gonna
be somebody that you're ever dropping. But I don't think
we're getting prime Mookie Betts probably ever again.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
At this point. He's gonna be thirty three years old
pretty soon.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Dylan Cease It is one of the worst qualified ras
out there. He's near the top. Expected numbers are still
so dramatically better than what he's putting out. Are you
buying or selling Dylan Ceese in the second half.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
I'm still buying all the expected numbers, like you mentioned,
are still good. Three sixty nine FIP is very good.
His Sierra at three forty one is the best of
his career. The walks are not a big problem. He's
giving up ten percent barrel rate, which is a problem,
but you know, just based on a lot of the numbers,
he's still getting whifts outside of the zone. The swinging
strike rate is still good. The stuff is still good.
I'm a big buyer on Dylan Ceas right.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
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answering your guys's questions. We still got you back on
the back half of this season. That's going to do
(32:33):
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(32:56):
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