Future of Life Institute Podcast
The Future of Life Institute (FLI) is a nonprofit working to reduce global catastrophic and existential risk from powerful technologies. In particular, FLI focuses on risks from artificial intelligence (AI), biotechnology, nuclear weapons and climate change. The Institute's work is made up of three main strands: grantmaking for risk reduction, educational outreach, and advocacy within the United Nations, US government and European Union institutions. FLI has become one of the world's leading voices on the governance of AI having created one of the earliest and most influential sets of governance principles: the Asilomar AI Principles.
Episodes
Tamay Besiroglu joins the podcast to discuss scaling, AI capabilities in 2030, breakthroughs in AI agents and planning, automating work, the uncertainties of investing in AI, and scaling laws for inference-time compute. Here's the report we discuss in the episode:
https://epochai.org/blog/can-ai-scaling-continue-through-2030
Timestamps:
00:00 How important is scaling?
08:03 How capable will AIs be in 2030? &n...
Ryan Greenblatt joins the podcast to discuss AI control, timelines, takeoff speeds, misalignment, and slowing down around human-level AI.
You can learn more about Ryan's work here: https://www.redwoodresearch.org/team/ryan-greenblatt
Timestamps:
00:00 AI control
09:35 Challenges to AI control
23:48 AI control as a bridge to alignment
26:54 Policy and coordination for AI safety
29:25 Slowing dow...
Tom Barnes joins the podcast to discuss how much the world spends on AI capabilities versus AI safety, how governments can prepare for advanced AI, and how to build a more resilient world.
Tom's report on advanced AI: https://www.founderspledge.com/research/research-and-recommendations-advanced-artificial-intelligence
Timestamps:
00:00 Spending on safety vs capabilities
09:06 Racing dynamics - is t...
Samuel Hammond joins the podcast to discuss whether AI progress is slowing down or speeding up, AI agents and reasoning, why superintelligence is an ideological goal, open source AI, how technical change leads to regime change, the economics of advanced AI, and much more.
Our conversation often references this essay by Samuel: https://www.secondbest.ca/p/ninety-five-theses-on-ai
Timestamps:
00:00 Is AI ...
Anousheh Ansari joins the podcast to discuss how innovation prizes can incentivize technical innovation in space, AI, quantum computing, and carbon removal. We discuss the pros and cons of such prizes, where they work best, and how far they can scale. Learn more about Anousheh's work here: https://www.xprize.org/home
Timestamps:
00:00 Innovation prizes at XPRIZE
08:25 Deciding which prizes to create
19:00 Creat...
Mary Robinson joins the podcast to discuss long-view leadership, risks from AI and nuclear weapons, prioritizing global problems, how to overcome barriers to international cooperation, and advice to future leaders. Learn more about Robinson's work as Chair of The Elders at https://theelders.org
Timestamps:
00:00 Mary's journey to presidency
05:11 Long-view leadership
06:55 Prioritizing global problems
08:...
Emilia Javorsky joins the podcast to discuss AI-driven power concentration and how we might mitigate it. We also discuss optimism, utopia, and cultural experimentation.
Apply for our RFP here: https://futureoflife.org/grant-program/mitigate-ai-driven-power-concentration/
Timestamps:
00:00 Power concentration
07:43 RFP: Mitigating AI-driven power concentration
14:15 Open source AI
26:50 Institut...
Anton Korinek joins the podcast to discuss the effects of automation on wages and labor, how we measure the complexity of tasks, the economics of an intelligence explosion, and the market structure of the AI industry. Learn more about Anton's work at https://www.korinek.com
Timestamps:
00:00 Automation and wages
14:32 Complexity for people and machines
20:31 Moravec's paradox
26:15 Can people switch career...
Christian Ruhl joins the podcast to discuss US-China competition and the risk of war, official versus unofficial diplomacy, hotlines between countries, catastrophic biological risks, ultraviolet germicidal light, and ancient civilizational collapse. Find out more about Christian's work at https://www.founderspledge.com
Timestamps:
00:00 US-China competition and risk
18:01 The security dilemma
30:21 Official a...
Christian Nunes joins the podcast to discuss deepfakes, how they impact women in particular, how we can protect ordinary victims of deepfakes, and the current landscape of deepfake legislation. You can learn more about Christian's work at https://now.org and about the Ban Deepfakes campaign at https://bandeepfakes.org
Timestamps:
00:00 The National Organisation for Women (NOW)
05:37 Deepfakes and women
10:12 Protectin...
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