Govern America | January 10, 2026 | Cartel of the Suns - Govern America

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
We have before us the opportunity to forge for ourselves
and for future generations, a new.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
World order, new world order, new world order.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
This is a moment to season. The kaleidoscope has been shaken.
The pieces are in flux. Soon they will settle again.
Before they do, let us reorder this world around us.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
A new world order, a world where.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
The United Nations is poised to fulfill the historic vision
of its founders.

Speaker 5 (00:27):
Nevertheless, unitedated in a key position, tool shape, is so
that the problem of the put French identity will be
the emergence of a new international order the.

Speaker 6 (00:39):
First decade of the twenty first century, that out of
what is will be feared, the greatest restructuring of the
global economy, greatest restructuring of the global economy, greatest restructuring
of the global economy.

Speaker 7 (00:52):
A new world order was created.

Speaker 8 (00:56):
Documenting the grass allow rebel.

Speaker 9 (00:58):
The very word secrecy repugnant in a free and open society.
And we are as a people inherently and historically opposed
a secret societies, the secret oaths and a secret proceedings.

Speaker 10 (01:13):
Waiting war on the new world order.

Speaker 7 (01:15):
The councils of government.

Speaker 11 (01:17):
We must guard again the acquisition of unwanted influence, whether
it's sought or unsought by the military industrial conflict.

Speaker 12 (01:27):
This is Governor America with Darren Weeks and Vicky Davis.

Speaker 13 (01:40):
From FEMA Regions five and ten. This is Governed America.
Vicky Gavis us here. I'm during Weeks. It is the
tenth of January twenty twenty six. Nice to have you
with us once again, ladies and gentlemen. And it is
going to be a busy show. There's a lot going on.
I was just talking to Vicky briefly before the show
as we did our weekly sound check prior to coming

(02:01):
on the air, and there's a lot going on. It
is the death of a thousand cuts and we're only
just we're only just uh, you know, a week end
of this new year. I mean, I mean, it's kind
of ridiculous.

Speaker 14 (02:17):
I'm doing a tour of the library here and talking
about the significance of the passage of time, right, the
significance of the passage of time. So when you think
about it, there is great significance to the passage of time.

Speaker 13 (02:31):
Yeah, so there you go, there's.

Speaker 15 (02:35):
The passage of time.

Speaker 13 (02:38):
Yeah, there there. You know, if there's anything good in
all this crazy stuff that's going on right now. At
least you don't have that to listen to every day.

Speaker 15 (02:48):
True, Yes, that's a blessing.

Speaker 13 (02:52):
Yeah. So anyway, man, where do we start? Where do
we start? Let's start with some good news. Let's start
with some good news. Okay, there's a study that came
out about carbon dioxide. Yes, we'll get I'm aware of
the smalli stuff. I'm aware of the protests that are
going on to today throughout the nation, and and and frankly,

(03:15):
obviously these are not organic protests. We'll get to all
of that, and the Somali fraud, which we wanted to
get to last week, but we ran out of time.
Just too much going on with the attack on Venezuela
that continues to go. But there was a study put
out which found that the carbon dioxide is greening the earth. Now,

(03:36):
how many times have we been saying that, Vicky here.

Speaker 15 (03:40):
I think that I think they teach that in middle
school science class exactly.

Speaker 13 (03:47):
I learned it in elementary school. Uh. But but now
they've come out to confirm it that carbon dioxide does
in fact green earth. You know, they they have have discovered,
among other things, photosynthesis and the fact that CO two
is turning the world's dry lands. They're turning greenoun because

(04:09):
of rising CO two levels.

Speaker 15 (04:11):
You know what that's really frightening, actually that the media
that they are just discovering this now, I mean.

Speaker 13 (04:23):
Well, this is put out by NASA dot gov. From
a quarter to half of Earth's vegetated lands have shown
significant greening over the last thirty five years, largely due
to rising levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide, according to a
new study published in journal Nature Climate Change on April
twenty fifth. An international team of thirty two authors and
twenty four institutions in eight countries led the effort, which

(04:45):
involved using satellite data from NASA's Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectrometer
and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administrations advanced very high
resolution radiometer instruments to help determine the leaf area Wow,
the leaf area index. Did you know there was a
leaf area index?

Speaker 15 (05:06):
Now I have to say I didn't.

Speaker 13 (05:09):
Or amount of leaf cover over the planet's vegetated regions.
The greening represents an increase in leaves on plants and
trees equivalent in area to two times the continental United States.
So more green stuff, more plant life. Maybe greater crop yields,
assuming that Monsanto and they bear people who own Monsanto

(05:30):
now can't turn around and figure out a way to
kill it all off. But and of course there's Bill
Gates and all the other eugenics population controlled type people
working to kill people. But anyway, I thought that was
a you know, give them long enough, maybe they'll you know.
But they were still saying that there was a problem.

(05:54):
I'm trying to find this in here. Oh, I think
I know what it was. They they were seeing all
this plant life and one of these articles and this
was I think Yale dot Edu they were reporting on
this as well, and they said something about all this
increased plant life is going to cause water shortages. Oh

(06:19):
h yeah, here it is. Despite warnings that climate change
would create widespread desertification, many dry lands are getting greener
because of increased CO two in the air, a trend
that recent studies indicate will continue. But and here it
is scientists warn this added vegetation may soak up scarce

(06:42):
water supply. They always find a way to be a
Debbie downer.

Speaker 15 (06:47):
Yeah, well, they want to be able to control people,
and you know, if there's some disaster on the horizon,
then that gives them their reason.

Speaker 13 (06:58):
That's it. That's exactly right.

Speaker 16 (07:00):
Oh.

Speaker 13 (07:01):
One other thing, Well, there's a couple of other things.

Speaker 7 (07:03):
Uh.

Speaker 13 (07:04):
Turning a corner here, trying to keep things moving. Uh,
the gateway Punnit is reporting that the UK Metropolitan Police
Department is going to require their officers to declare their
Free Masonic Mation PUI free Masonic membership. So if they're
if they're Freemasons, they're going to have to say that

(07:25):
now apparently Wow, Yeah, that kind of surprised.

Speaker 7 (07:29):
Man.

Speaker 13 (07:30):
I didn't see that coming.

Speaker 15 (07:31):
Yeah, why did they say? Why?

Speaker 13 (07:34):
Yeah? The United Metropolitan Police Service has introduced a new
policy requiring its officers and staff members to declare whether
they're Freemasons. The MPs wrote in a statement that there
have been calls going back a number of years for
the role of Freemasonry in policing to be properly addressed,
including as a recommendation and the report of the Daniel
Morgan Independent Panel. We strongly believe that failing to act

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on these calls would further damage trust not only among
the public, but also other officers and staff. In response
to the new policy, the United Grand Lodge of England
has sued the MPs.

Speaker 15 (08:11):
MPs, huh oh, that's really pretty interesting.

Speaker 13 (08:15):
Well, I think it has something to do with favoritism.

Speaker 15 (08:19):
Because yeah, that's possible.

Speaker 13 (08:22):
Because you know, if one's a Freemason and the other
one isn't a Freemason, who are they gonna help. Freemasons
have demanded an emergency injunction from the High Court to
halta Metropolitan Police's new policy that orders officers to tell
their bosses if they are members of the organization. The
Freemasons filed papers in London on Christmas Eve and claimed

(08:44):
that the METS policy amounts to quote unquote religious discrimination
against Freemasons who are also police officers. Isn't that interesting?
So this is now a religious group the lodges, that's interesting.

Speaker 15 (09:00):
I don't Yeah, I didn't know they were, but I mean.

Speaker 13 (09:04):
Who knew, you know, they say the met Commissioner, Sir
Mark Rawley, that's interesting that he's a sir knighted by
the Crown, evidently is making up the law on the hoof,
and accused his force of whipping up conspiracy theories about
the influence of Freemasons. Go look at who all has

(09:24):
been a member, who have been high ranking officials around
the world. They're not conspiracy theories, folks. The MET has
vowed to fight back as it sees the policy as
part of the flight to restore trust and credibility, and
the case currently under investigation involves claims of Masonic influence

(09:45):
and alleged wrongdoing. And December, the MET said anyone who
was a part or had been a member of hierarchical
organization that requires members to support and protect each other
must declare it. So it doesn't sound like he's singling
out just the Masons. It's any secret society or a

(10:06):
hierarchical organization.

Speaker 15 (10:08):
Any lodge, any membership.

Speaker 13 (10:12):
That's I think that's good.

Speaker 15 (10:14):
Well, I don't know. I find it kind of chilling, Like,
what the hell business is it of theirs? What clubs
you belong to? But then maybe I'm just saying that, Well.

Speaker 13 (10:26):
If it's a club, if it's a club that can
cause you to not properly, Okay, well let's just play
that out. Then if they're a member of the Communist
Party USA or a Communist Party of England, whatever, whatever
group that is a subversive group, do you think they
should declare that.

Speaker 15 (10:46):
Yes, that's a political club. I don't know that the
Masons are political, doesn't.

Speaker 13 (10:54):
That, But it influences their behavior if they show allegiance
to each other and not the general public. I mean,
if they can bias they're policing, then I think it's
something that needs to be because because you can't have
it out in the open, sunlight is the best disinfected.

Speaker 15 (11:13):
Well, the thing is is that those brotherhoods, those clubs
in Great Britain go back centuries, and so why is
it only a problem now It's never been a problem before.

Speaker 13 (11:30):
Well, I think it's a good thing.

Speaker 15 (11:34):
Well, I'm on the fence. I'm not saying it isn't
it or it isn't I just I don't know.

Speaker 13 (11:40):
I think all of these people who have secret allegiances
should be exposed. But that's just me. But here's another thing.
Art send me over this. I think last night Trump
has got a new executive order, this just came out
a few days ago, withdrawing the United States from international organizations, conventions,

(12:02):
and treaties their contrary to the interests of the United States. Now,
the cynic in me want I just you know, at first,
it sounds like a great thing, and I think it
is a great thing, except for a lot of great things.
I wonder if they have underlying, real, real reasons. I

(12:23):
mean there's the purported reason, and then there's the real reason.
For instance, this North American or not just North American,
but the Union of the Americas. And now really it's
been rebranded as the Technate. This is an implementation of technocracy.
We'll talk about that some as the show progresses today,
because I think I think Jason and Utah's absolutely spot on.

(12:48):
He sent us that map earlier reminded us that the
Union of the Americas, which originally it was the Free
Trade Area of the Americas, they were trying to get
that built back in the early two thousand, as I recall, Uh,
it started with the North American Union push from George W.
Bush and you know his counterparts in Mexico and Canada.

(13:13):
And then that was supposedly destroyed. Supposedly, I think it
just went black underground.

Speaker 15 (13:21):
Who said it was destroyed, Well, now that's what.

Speaker 13 (13:23):
They came out and said, I'll tell you who said
it was the one that was promoting what was his name?
He was making all the rounds on the patriot talk shows.
And I didn't believe that it was they dropped it.
I just figured it went black, it went dark, mm hmm.
They went because when they get pushed back then they

(13:44):
go another direction to do it covertly. So officially it
was dropped, but I think unofficially it continued in the background.
The point is is that they've been after this for
a long time, and Trump has promoted recently, very vociferously,
the idea that the US is going to gather or

(14:07):
get Greenland one way or the other.

Speaker 15 (14:10):
Yeah, and that's the dn't tell.

Speaker 13 (14:14):
Yeah, that kind of talk. In fact, here I got
the audio right here and the.

Speaker 17 (14:20):
Policy question, how much money are you thinking of getting
people in Greenland to get them on board with a
possible US.

Speaker 18 (14:27):
I'm not talking about money for Greenland yet. I might
talk about that, but right now, we are going to
do something on Greenland, whether they like it or not,
because if we don't do it, Russia or China will
take over Greenland and we're not going to have Russia
or China as a neighbor. Okay, well, we already to

(14:51):
make a deal, you know, the easy way. But if
we don't do it the easy way, we're going to
do with the hard na hangout.

Speaker 13 (14:56):
I'm Sorry, what did you say.

Speaker 15 (14:58):
I said, Russia already is a neighbor. They're just right
across the strait from Alaska.

Speaker 13 (15:04):
Well that is true, that is true, but he conveniently
overlooked that.

Speaker 18 (15:15):
I would like to make a deal, you know, the
easy way, But if we don't do it the easy way,
we're going to do it the hard way.

Speaker 10 (15:24):
And I'm a man.

Speaker 18 (15:25):
And by the way, I'm a fan of Denmark too,
I have to tell you.

Speaker 13 (15:28):
And you know they've been very nice to me.

Speaker 7 (15:31):
I'm a big fan.

Speaker 18 (15:32):
But you know, the fact that they had a boat
land there five hundred years ago doesn't mean.

Speaker 13 (15:35):
That they owned the land. Well, following that logic, because
we had a boat land here in the continental United States,
we don't own the land. So I mean that be
careful of these arguments that you're making.

Speaker 16 (15:46):
President.

Speaker 18 (15:47):
Sure, we had lots of boats go there also, but
we need that because if you take a look outside
of Greenland right now, there are Russian destroyers, there are
Chinese destroyers and bigger there are a Russian submarine all
over the place. We're not going to have Russia or
China occupy Greenland.

Speaker 10 (16:05):
And that's what they're going to do.

Speaker 13 (16:06):
If we don't.

Speaker 18 (16:06):
So we're going to be doing something with Greenland, either
the nice way or.

Speaker 13 (16:10):
The more difficult it. Please go ahead.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
And then as the president, why is it so important
to you to own it when you have a military
presence there which you could expand to effect the security.

Speaker 18 (16:25):
Because when we own it, we defend it. You don't
defend lisas the same way. You have to own it.
And you know, with a nation, look at what happened
with Obama, with that horrible deal they made with Iran.

Speaker 13 (16:37):
It was a sure right, I'm gonna jump out of
it because now he's going on about Obama.

Speaker 7 (16:41):
Yeah and Iran.

Speaker 15 (16:43):
Yeah. So actually, the Democrats and the Republicans are both
following the plan absolutely for the the Americas as a
continental governing structure. It's just that the Democrats chose to
have open borders, you know, to to destroy our nation state.

Speaker 13 (17:08):
Everything that's going on right now with Trump sending the UH,
the ICE agents, the ICE officers, whatever you want to
call them into the cities right now to gather up
the illegal alien invaders has been facilitated by the previous administration.

(17:28):
They left the door wide open so that the next
administration could and would do this. I think that this
is a perfect synergistic plan of both administrations working together
for the common uh UNGOD double plus uncood as as

(17:49):
Orwell would have stated it.

Speaker 15 (17:52):
Yeah, it's not it's not good for the American.

Speaker 13 (17:54):
People, correct, Yeah, I think that's its total cooperation going
on here.

Speaker 15 (18:01):
Well, I think that's what the Bipartisan Commission was all
about from the beginning.

Speaker 13 (18:08):
But if you're going to if you're going to make
the Western hemisphere all one, you wouldn't need a world
government telling you what to do, would you. You wouldn't
need a United Nations if you're considering the entire Western
hemisphere the United States.

Speaker 15 (18:27):
Correct, well, well, we don't. But the China and the
Soviet Union were both involved in it. You remember the
five Nations of the United Nations was Soviet Union, China,
the United States, Great Britain, and France. Those were the

(18:51):
five original members of the UN Security Council. Yeah and so,
and you know what's the deal with Britain and France.
They were both colonial powers.

Speaker 13 (19:05):
I don't think he's completely pulling us out of the
United Nations, but he has pulled us out of a
lot of the organizations that we were involved in. And again,
I think it's great that we're being pulled out. I
just hope it's for the right reason. And one of
them is a United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change,

(19:25):
which honestly, I don't think he can do by executive
order because that one was ratified by the Senate.

Speaker 15 (19:33):
Right, there are several treaties in there. Yeah, so the
treaty would have to be canceled.

Speaker 13 (19:41):
But just a few days ago, Trump wrote, on February fourth,
to twenty twenty five, I issued Executive Order fourteen one
ninety nine with drawing United States from an ending funding
to certain United Nations organizations, and directed by the Secretary
of State, in consultation with the United Nations Representative to
the Representative to the United Nations, to conduct a review

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of all international intergovernmental organizations of which the United States
is a member and provides any type of funding or
other support, and all conventions and treaties to which the
United States is a party, to determine which organizations, conventions,
and treaties are contrary to the interests of the United States,
like all of them are.

Speaker 7 (20:25):
Two.

Speaker 13 (20:27):
The Secretary of State has reported his findings as required
by Executive Order one four one nine nine. I have
considered the Secretary of State's report, and, after deliberating with
my Cabinet, have determined that it is contrary to the
interests of the United States to remain in a number
of participate in, or otherwise provide support to the organizations

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listed in section two of this memorandum, Consistent with Executive
Order for one nine nine and pursuant to the authority
it vested me as President by the Constitution of the
Law of the United States of America, I here by
direct all executive Departments and agencies to take immediate steps
to effectuate the withdrawal of the United States from the

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organizations listed in section two of this memorandum as soon
as possible. For the United Nations entities. Withdraw means ceasing
participation in or funding to those entities to the extent
permitted by law. And so, he says. His review of
this continues to go on. But here's the list of organizations,

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un organizations organizations from which the United States shall withdraw
A non United Nations organizations that would be the twenty
four to seven Carbon Free Energy Compact, Colombo Planned Council
Commission for Environmental Cooperation, Education, cannot wait. European Center of

(21:54):
Excellence for Countering Hybrid Threats, Forum for European National Highway
Research Laboratories, Freedom Online Coalition, Global Community Engagement and Resilient Fund,
Global counter Terrorism Forum, Global Forum on Cyber Expertise, Global

(22:14):
Forum on Migration and Development, inter American Institute for Global
Change Research, Intergovernmental Forum on Mining, Minerals, Metals and Sustainable Development,
Intergovernmental plan On Panel on Climate Change. That's the sole
one that I'm I'm really unsure about the other ones.
Probably he's okay. Bear in mind, I agree with pulling

(22:39):
us out of it. I want to be pulled out
of it. I just think it might take a senatorial action, which,
by the way, should happen because the Republicans are in
charge of both houses of Congress right now. We have
a trifecta that Republicans do. I say we. I don't
really consider myself a Republican, but supposedly your team is
in charge. If they're really working for you, why aren't

(23:02):
Why aren't they pulling us out of the IPCC. Why
haven't they codified some of the better executive voters that
Trump has done. You know, they're playing a role that's
that's there.

Speaker 15 (23:14):
You're cutting in and out?

Speaker 13 (23:15):
Am I really yeah, yeah, I didn't.

Speaker 15 (23:19):
Hear the whole less thing you were saying.

Speaker 13 (23:24):
Well, that's bizarre.

Speaker 15 (23:25):
I don't know if I don't know, if it's just
oh it says my internet connection is unstable. Ah, okay,
zoom is not responding.

Speaker 13 (23:37):
Uh, you may have to reconnect. I'll tell you. We
do have a break coming up, so I'll just continue
reading this if you want to want to reconnect, or
you might wait for the break. I don't know. You'll
have to judge how bad it really is for you. Yeah, okay,
well maybe go ahead and re reconnect then, okay, because

(23:59):
we're gonna head to the break here in just a moment. Anyway. See,
let me try something here. Got to do something real
quick here, Sorry about that, folks. All right, so anyway,
there's the Intergovernmental Science Policy Platform on Biodiversity and Ecosystem Services,

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the International Center for the Study of the Preservation and
Restoration of Cultural Property. Wow, that's a mouthful. International Cotton
Advisory Committee, because where would we be if we didn't
have an International Cotton Advisory Committee. International Development Law Organization,

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the International Energy Forum, the International Federation of Arts, Councils
and Culture Agencies, International Institute for Democracy and Electoral Assistance,
International Institute for Justice and the Rule of Law, International
LEAD and ZINC Study Group, the International Renewable Energy Agency,

(25:05):
the International Solar Alliance, the International Tropical Timber Organization, International
Union for Conservation of Nature, the Pan American Institute of
Geography and History. Can you believe we were funding all this?
The Partnership for Atlantic Cooperation, the Regional Cooperation Agreement for

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Combating Piracy and Armed Robbery against Ships in Asia, Regional
Cooperation Council, the Renewable Energy Policy Network for the twenty
first Century, the Science and Technology Center in Ukraine, Secretariat
of the Pacific Regional Environmental Program, and Venice Commission of

(25:48):
the Council of Europe. Now those are all the non
United Nations entities that we are supposedly going to separate from.
There's also the UN ones, which I'm not going to
get through before the break. But uh, I don't see
much of a downside for any of this pulling pulling

(26:10):
out of all of this stuff. It's ridiculous, except I
hope it's being done for the right reasons, for the
sovereignty of the United States, not for the for the
building of the Western Hemisphere Alliance very important. Putting America

(26:31):
first should not mean putting the Western Hemisphere version of
America first. I'll keep it the way, the formulation, the
way it is right now. All right, we got the
bottom of the hour. Break, we'll continue a moment hitting
the ground running. Let me come back, don't go away.

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Hi, I'm e Laane, a student at Hillsdale College. Here
is Hillsdale College President Larry Arne on the importance of
the Presidential Oath of Office.

Speaker 22 (28:10):
Members of Congress and federal judges take an oath to
the Constitution, but the Constitution prescribes the exact words of
the oath only for the president. The American presidency was
a new and powerful office created at the Constitutional Convention
of seventeen eighty seven. Nothing like it existed in any
other constitution in history. It was designed to allow certain
virtues decision activity, secrecy, dispatch, things like that, and they

(28:35):
were thought to be essential to executive power, especially in
a crisis. But despite this immense power, the president is
not so powerful as the Constitution itself. That is why
presidents was pledged to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution,
and why it is the duty of the people to
ensure that they do so.

Speaker 21 (28:51):
This Constitution Minute was brought to you by Hillsdale College
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Speaker 23 (29:02):
US President Harry Truman famously said, not all readers are leaders,
but all leaders are readers.

Speaker 24 (29:11):
Teaching a boy to love.

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Reading the right books is one of the foundational skills
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our boys need stories about soldiers, missionaries, and presidents. If
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Speaker 24 (29:45):
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Speaker 25 (30:28):
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Speaker 24 (31:37):
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Speaker 27 (31:45):
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Speaker 13 (31:49):
All right, this is Governed America. I'm Dren Weeks. Welcome back.
Vicky's here as well, Vicky Davis, And the website for
the show is Governamerica dot com. That's governed America dot com.
My email address is radio at Governamerica dot com. And
VICKI you want to give your information out please Okay.

Speaker 15 (32:08):
My website my main website is channeling or the Technocratic
Tyranny dot com. My older website is Channelingreality dot com.
And my email address is on both websites.

Speaker 13 (32:25):
Yeah, and I want to thank Art again for sharing this.
Executive voter pointing this out. There's so much going on,
you can't keep track of everything, and so it's nice
to be able to have listener listeners that tip you
off to certain things, call your attention to certain things,
because our attention today is going in a million different
directions because we try to juggle it all, and it's
just like drinking. It's like trying to catch a fire

(32:47):
hose in a dixie cup essentially in terms of the information,
or a geyser, even Niagara falls, whatever metaphor you want
to use anyway, but we're sharing before the break or
we were. This executive order from Donald J. Trump just
a few days ago, all the organizations that he wanted
he wants to withdraw us from, and this is an

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executive order purportedly doing that, assuming that he had he's
on firm legal ground with most, if not all of it,
and I believe that he is. There may be one
or two. I specifically mentioned the IPCC which was ratified
by the Senate. That one may be a little problematic,

(33:28):
but there may be some other ones as well that
were congressionally hooked in somewhere that you know, I don't know,
if I guess it kind of depends. They're supposed to
be formally ratified. But if there's funding of some of
these organizations, that could be a little bit of a
problem as well.

Speaker 15 (33:50):
Yeah, I think I think they should do it. Like
you remember William prock Smaier, right, and how he would say,
I forget what his list was, but it was a
list of sham programs or groups or something that that
we belonged to that we didn't need to belong to,

(34:13):
or they were projects, you know, from other groups that
that we were involved in. Yeah, there's it was like
the Golden Fleece Award or something like that.

Speaker 13 (34:24):
We are funding and have been funding things from all
over the around around the world, NGOs, organizations, entities that
not to mention the endless wars and rebuilding efforts. It's
it's no wonder we're in such debt as a nation. Uh,

(34:46):
it's no wonder that we are in such dire financial
situations and and and and this whole thing is teetering
on collapse. You can see it from from up close
and personal, and all the civil and russ that's going on,
everything that's being fomented. I don't think any of this
stuff is organic. I don't think any of these protests
that are scheduled for today and tomorrow are organic. I

(35:09):
see dots, red dots all over the map scheduled for
today and tomorrow. With this uprisings, which I would describe
as an insurrection vickey, a real insurrection. You have federal
agents trying to enforce immigration law in the United States,
again facilitated by the last administration. So here you have

(35:32):
the synergistic cooperation, in my opinion, between administrations, where one
sets up the next one to be a little more
totalitarian or a lot more totalitarian. None of this would
have been necessary to round up illegal aliens if they
hadn't let them in the first place. I guess that's

(35:53):
my point in all of this. So I believe that
this is a cooperation, and that would explain why you
can see somebody like Donald J. Trump go to a
funeral and be laughing it up with people like Obama,
laughing it up with the Biden family. You know, he
can call them names and make fun of Joe in

(36:16):
his ineptness and say he was a stupid president, and
then yuck it up with his family at events. Because
really it's all in act. Folks. They're they're they're they're
fooling people into thinking there's real enmity going on here. Yeah,
but I guess I'm just a conspiracy theorist, VICKI, you
and me both, So getting back to this to finish

(36:39):
it up and not talk us out of time here
I covered the non UN stuff before the break. The
UN stuff that he's pulling us out of now by
this executive order is the Department of Economic and Social Affairs,
the United Nations Economic and Social Council or echosock uh
Economic Commission for Africa.

Speaker 15 (37:00):
Wow, whoa, he's getting us out of ECOSK.

Speaker 13 (37:03):
Yes, well, these are the individual ecosc entities he's pulling
us out of. It's more more specific than just a
general echosock declaration. Okay, it's the echo SoC Economic Commission
for Africa, the ECHOSC Economic Commission for Latin America and

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the Caribbean, the ECHOSOC Economic and Social Commission for Asia
and the Pacific, and the ECHOSC Economic and Social Commission
for Western Asia.

Speaker 15 (37:37):
Well that's pretty huge, actually, it is that. That is
great because those are all the agencies that are engaged
in all the socialist crud.

Speaker 13 (37:51):
Yes, yeah, and it is great. Of course, the next
Democrat president that comes in there is going to reverse
all of this. I hate to be a Darren Downer here,
but I have to point that out. It is great
though it should be, but it should be. All of
this stuff should be banned. We should never never do this.

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We should have a law against funding these foreign entities.

Speaker 15 (38:18):
I totally.

Speaker 10 (38:21):
Don't.

Speaker 15 (38:21):
We don't need to belong to foreign non governmental organizations.

Speaker 13 (38:30):
The International Law Commission is apparently another United Nations organization
that's being pulled out of.

Speaker 15 (38:38):
That that that one's pretty important though. That's the one
that keeps track of all the treaties that the US
has become engaged in yep. So so that's kind of
bad because it takes information away from us.

Speaker 13 (38:54):
The International Residual Mechanism for Criminal well, I think they'll
still operate on it's just we're not funding them. We're
not going to be members. But I don't think that
any of these organizations are probably gonna shut down. Maybe
they will, you know, we could only hope, but.

Speaker 15 (39:13):
We don't know if we'll have access to the information though.

Speaker 13 (39:17):
But do we have access to it now?

Speaker 7 (39:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (39:20):
The International Law commissioned.

Speaker 13 (39:21):
Sure, Okay, I doubt anything's going to change. International residual
mechanism for criminal tribunals, the International Trade Center.

Speaker 15 (39:36):
That would be good.

Speaker 13 (39:37):
The Office of the Special Advisor on Africa, The Office
of the Special Representative of the Secretary General for Children
in Armed Conflict. Here's a mouthful. The Office of the
Special Representative of the Secretary of General on Sexual Violence
in Conflict. The Office of the Special Representative of the

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Secretary very General on Violence against Children. Well, I'll keep
my comments to myself. I was just thinking of the
old Epstein Affair, Peace Building Commission, the Peace Building Fund,
the Permanent Forum on People of African Descent, the United

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Nations Alliance on Civilizations, the United Nations Collaborative Program on
Reducing Emissions from Deforestation and Forest Degradation in Developing Countries.
You know, if you imagine trying to work for one
of these organizations, can you imagine where do you work?

Speaker 28 (40:39):
Oh?

Speaker 13 (40:39):
I work at the United Nations Collaborative Program on Reducing
Emissions from Deforestization and Forest Degradation in Developing Countries.

Speaker 15 (40:49):
Well, that is a mothful.

Speaker 13 (40:53):
You'd be the life of a dinner party. I'll tell
you if anyway. United Nations Conference on Trade and Development,
the United Nations Democracy Fund, the UN Energy, UN Energy,
UN Entity for Gender Equality and the Empowerment of Women,

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United Nations Framework convintion my climate change. We already mentioned
that United Nations Human Settlements Program, U n Institute for
Training and Research, UN Oceans, UN Population Fund, UN Register
of Conventional Arms, UN System, Chief Executive Board for Coordination,

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UN System Staff College.

Speaker 16 (41:38):
What is that?

Speaker 15 (41:41):
I don't know, but you know what, I'm going to
have to look into this because I know they were
beginning to do a major reorganization of the UN and
I'm wondering, Ah, if this is part of the reorganization.
Every decade or decade and a half or so they

(42:04):
do a reorganization of the UN, moving it closer towards
a global governing system.

Speaker 13 (42:11):
That's interesting. Yeah, that's a that's an interesting theory. Finally,
there's a UN Water and UN University. So those are
entities that we're pulling out of according to Donald J. Trump.
And so anyway, he says, the functions of the Director
of the Office of Management Budget relating to budgetary, administrative

(42:35):
or legislative proposals, the authority granted by law to an
executive department of agency or the head thereof this Memorandum
shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to
the availability of appropriations. Well, you know, we're just about
headed toward a government shutdown again. I think that seems

(42:56):
to be something that's never ending as well in this day.

Speaker 10 (43:00):
Well, you know.

Speaker 15 (43:01):
What, I was really stunned that the Congress, the Republicans
in Congress, voted to continue at least this is what
I understand. They voted to continue the subsidies for the Obamacare,

(43:23):
even though you know, that was a bone of contention
for the for the shutdown. But then but then the Congress,
the Republicans voted to continue with it. So I don't know.

(43:43):
I don't know what they're doing. You know, I don't
know why they would do that, but I believe they did.

Speaker 13 (43:51):
Yeah, i'll tell you what. We got to call on
the line. You're welcome to call in folks as well.
I do ask that you be kind of brief because
we have a lot to get to today. But let's
go out to California. Hello, you're on the air. Go ahead, please, Oh.

Speaker 29 (44:05):
Good morning, Good morning, y'all. This is Cynthia, California. Let's
go to that constitution. There is no enumeration that permits
the federal government to spend money on any other country
or any anything that impairs our sovereignty. And there's no
enumeration that allows in that constitution that allows for the

(44:28):
government to spend money on an insurance program for people's health.

Speaker 16 (44:33):
I agree, Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 13 (44:36):
They probably tuck it into the general welfare clause somewhere.

Speaker 29 (44:40):
I gu well, that was misunderstood. That's simply a header.
It is not an enumeration.

Speaker 13 (44:46):
No, I agree, I agree absolutely. It doesn't seem to
stop them, though, does it. I said, it doesn't seem
to stop them, though.

Speaker 29 (44:58):
That's because the state legislature have not stepped up to
the plate and objected, because they're supposed to have the
right to pull to pull back a senator and say, well,
we elected you to send you there, but you are,
you are violating the constitution, and we have a right
to withdraw you and elect Somebody knew because it is

(45:23):
a violation of the oath of office to be spending
money on taking us into debt actually, which is would
certainly risk our sovereignty. People forget that nations get invaded
when they haven't paid their debts. And I'm pretty sure,
there was something sneaky that went on in the eighteen

(45:43):
seventies where they may have encumbered the land that the
federal government claims to own. But the federal government doesn't
own that land. It was supposed to give that land
to the states when the states were carved outas territories,
but they retained it. There is no right to have
a Rocky Mountain National Park that that land belongs to

(46:05):
the states. Look at how how it was written. You
have to go to the ratification debates, which were hidden
for two hundred years. They were never taught in law schools.
There are judges up who've never read the ratification debates.
They don't know what they're they're doing. I'm avoiding three
letter four letter words.

Speaker 13 (46:26):
Thank you. I appreciate that they don't really know what
they're doing.

Speaker 29 (46:30):
As unconstitutional. You say ratification debates and they're scratching their
heads and going the what everything was clarified there that no,
they're not going to be taking your money and doing
this and that and this and that, they're not going
to be taking your money and running your schools. But
what have they turned around and do they became communists

(46:50):
and they started running our schools.

Speaker 13 (46:52):
Yep, yep, exactly, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 29 (46:56):
I reclaiming to be public dot org. He has he
is on a different station than you all, but he
understands the ratification debates like very few people do.

Speaker 13 (47:08):
Very good. Hey, thank you, thank you for the recommendation.
Blessings to you all. Right, let's move on here in
the interest of time. There are some other things going on,
very very important things. And one of the things that
I've found interesting was this. Apparently there has been a
blackout in Germany's Germany due to an attack on the

(47:29):
power there. German established this gateway pundit. German establishment persecutes
right wing AfD party, but in fact the left wing
radical groups are the threat to the country, they say.
For the second time, for the second time, an arson
attack claimed by a left wing extremist group has brought
chaos to the German capital Berlin for several days now.

(47:54):
The sabotage has left tens of thousands of residents without
heat or electricity in the winter chilias period. CBS News
reported quote the Saturday morning arson attack on critical electricity
infrastructure in southwest Berlin powered nearly fifty thousand homes and
businesses and renewed scrutiny of a long running sabotage campaign

(48:16):
by the left wing Vulcan Groupe. I know I butchered that,
but the group claimed responsibility for the fire, which destroyed
several high voltage cables near a heat and power station
and triggered one of the most severe blackouts the capitol
has experienced in years. I just wanted to put that

(48:39):
on people's radar. Tens of thousands of people left without
electricity in Berlin due to an attack on the power
grid there. So if you don't think that that can
happen here, ladies and gentlemen, you better think again our power.

Speaker 15 (48:55):
I wonder what. I wonder what happened to the new
clear power plants that were in France, because they had
they had, you know, quite a few in a concentrated area.
When my husband and I went to Europe, we saw
them and it was it was kind of bizarre, actually,

(49:16):
I thought that you would have so many small nuclear
power plants so close together.

Speaker 13 (49:24):
Yeah, I mentioned before that they you know, well, there
was somebody recently and we talked about that again recently,
that they were shooting at substations and I think it's
like one. I don't know how many substations were shot at.
What was that in the California area, do you recall Vicky? Yeah,

(49:49):
she probably looked that story and.

Speaker 15 (49:50):
I'm not sure, but I think it might have been
Oregon as well.

Speaker 13 (49:54):
Yeah, that figures the hotbed of communists, although frankly it's
all over the country anymore. It's frightening to the degree
to which the communists have taken over our major cities.

Speaker 15 (50:08):
Well, it was all of the reinvention of government during
the Clinton administration. They actually changed our form of government,
I believe, when they redesigned government for the for technology,
and they also globalized our government. So yeah, it's a mess.

Speaker 30 (50:36):
Now.

Speaker 15 (50:36):
Almost nobody really looks at it from that standpoint. Everybody
takes a narrow view and they try to make it
seem like everything started like four years ago during the
Biden administration, or if they do go back, they go
back to the end of the Obama administration. But this

(50:59):
whole redesign of our government has been going on since
George Herbert Walker Bush and his New World Order.

Speaker 13 (51:09):
Yeah, which has been most of my life. I remember
when he coined that phrase. But honestly, it is probably
going on before that it was. I'm sure this has
been a long laid plan that probably has been laid
or at least parts of it anyway before we were
even born.

Speaker 15 (51:27):
Yes, absolutely, they've had these plans. As a matter of fact,
I found an old article that I read that I
apparently didn't publish, but it is about a functional management system.

(51:48):
And if you you know, treating our government was designed
for the American people, but you know, for globalization, that
came up with the idea of a functional management system,
right because theoretically there should be no difference between a

(52:10):
regulatory agency in Mexico and a regulatory agency here as
long as the focus is functional. But that turns out
not to be true. You know, I don't believe you
can have a functional government that does not factor in culture.

Speaker 13 (52:34):
Well, we certainly don't have a functional government, now that's true.

Speaker 15 (52:39):
We don't.

Speaker 13 (52:40):
Everything. Everywhere I turn, I see dysfunction. It's like the
wheels are coming off all over the place.

Speaker 15 (52:47):
Well I think they are because and every time Trump
mentions Greenland or you know, then he did Venezuela. And
they're building the Americas, which is the Western Hemisphere governing
organization under its World Government.

Speaker 13 (53:09):
Yep, only they've repackaged it now as the Technate and.

Speaker 15 (53:14):
Yeah, well the Technate that came from Technography think inc.

Speaker 13 (53:19):
Yeah, Elon grandfather.

Speaker 15 (53:22):
From the nineteen thirties yep.

Speaker 13 (53:24):
So uh. But one thing I can look forward to
is my membership in the Illuminati, Vicky, because I because
I got I got the invitation. I got the invitation,
I just get Yeah, I got an email this week.
It was from the government of GV dot b R.

Speaker 31 (53:46):
Is that?

Speaker 13 (53:47):
Is that what it be in Brazil? I don't know,
but uh, anyway, it says we are thrilled to extend
this exclusive invitation to you. You have been selected to
join the Great Illuminati and become a member of this
distinguished family. Your virtues and wisdom have not gone unnoticed,

(54:10):
and you have indeed found favor in the eyes of
the Great Creator all capitalized. Uh. And so it's got reply,
and it's got a link which I'm not going to
click on. By the way, Warm regards Regina Prudence, Illuminati recruiter.

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So who knew that the New Illuminati has recruiters?

Speaker 7 (54:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (54:36):
I sure didn't. It looks like dot b R is.

Speaker 13 (54:40):
For zil Okay, all right, Yep, that's what I thought. So, uh,
you know, hey, I made it. I made it. Should
I should I accept congratulate? Should I go over to
the dark side? Anyway, somebody that did go over to
the dark side is whoever got rid of the judge
and Benjamin? Yeah, whose corruption case? Something really weird is

(55:04):
going on here.

Speaker 15 (55:06):
What happened to I didn't hear about that.

Speaker 13 (55:08):
The judge overseeing Benjamin that. Yeah, you know, he's in
that corruption case over there right now. Some theory theorized
that because of the corruption case is one of the
reasons why he's continuing to go with the war constant
war over there. I think it's a little deeper than that.
I think he's implementing the Greater Israel plan. But the

(55:30):
judge was overseeing the corruption trial and something very bad
happened to him. He died in a suspicious death.

Speaker 15 (55:39):
We'll tell you, very unexpected.

Speaker 13 (55:41):
Huh, very unexpected. Uh. Yeah, it's it's it's strange how
these things work. Oh, it covered a little more when
we get back from the break. There's a good cliffhanger
for folks. Stay with us, ladies and gentlemen, As Governor
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Speaker 33 (59:04):
The video release shows the perspective of the ice agent
who shot and killed a woman in Minneapolis on Wednesday.
Fox's Alexis McAdams reports.

Speaker 34 (59:13):
It's a video clip that's on a cell phone camera
from the agent who ICE says was hit by a
car by a woman who they say is an activist
who is trained to stop ICE operations.

Speaker 31 (59:24):
Go ahead, held car.

Speaker 34 (59:31):
There were those ICE agents on the ground. You hear
one of them saying to get out of the car.
They try to put their hand on the car. She
puts it in reverse a little bit, backs up, then
shifts it in a drive. According to the FEDS, goes
forward and you can hear a crash. And that's what
including JD. Vance, the Vice President of the United States
and DHS is saying, look, we told you, this is
what happened. This agent was hit and he was injured.

(59:52):
He was hospitalized.

Speaker 33 (59:54):
Paul Morrow is a contributor for Fox and said the
video helps the officer's side of.

Speaker 35 (59:58):
The story from his perspective. Number of things going on.
Number one, they're being extremely combative. Number Two, the partner
that is, as you noted, on the passenger side, is
not even in the car yet. When the car accelerates
towards the officer, you also hear the officer or somebody
yell WHOA something like that.

Speaker 36 (01:00:17):
So very clearly it was a surprise.

Speaker 35 (01:00:21):
All of those things go into the totality of the circumstances,
which is the metric legally that's used to assess these things.

Speaker 33 (01:00:28):
A Minnesota prosecutor called on the public to send any
video or other evidence in the fatal shooting of Renee
Good directly to local investigators. President Trump offered oil companies
total safety and security in Venezuela after the capture of
former Venezuelan leader Nicholas Maduro. Here's fox is Christian Goodwin.

Speaker 26 (01:00:46):
President Trump s'ys thirty million barrels of oil given to
the US by Venezuela is on its way to the US.

Speaker 24 (01:00:52):
That's a lot of oil.

Speaker 18 (01:00:53):
It's about four billion dollars worth.

Speaker 26 (01:00:55):
Telling oil executives from companies including Exon and Chevron, they'll
deal directly with the US, not Venezuela, and we'll have
security guarantees, and you have.

Speaker 18 (01:01:03):
Total safety, total security. One of the reasons you couldn't
go in is you had no guarantees, you had no security.
But now you have total security.

Speaker 26 (01:01:10):
Noting the US will start refining and selling up to
fifty million barrels of Venezuelan oil.

Speaker 18 (01:01:15):
Venezuela needs money, and we're going to make sure that
they get money and we're going to get money, and
the oil companies are going to make something for the
work they do, and they get to get back their money.

Speaker 26 (01:01:24):
Adding, oil companies would be spending at least one hundred
billion dollars of their own money to do so.

Speaker 33 (01:01:30):
Universities in California are being accused of using state harassment
prevention laws to affirm transgender ideology.

Speaker 37 (01:01:37):
Here's a report from AFNs and Bronson Woodruff. A screenshot
from the uc Training Center presents a scenario on transgender training.
It says, in short, a male is transgender, a classmate
continues to call him by his previous male name, and
that the same classmate complains when he uses the women's restroom.
What type of prohibited conduct can this be?

Speaker 7 (01:01:54):
Answer?

Speaker 37 (01:01:54):
Choices include sexual exploitation, relationship violence, quid pro quo, or
hostile environment. Anchor Tray Gallagher shared a response from UCLA
when asked for comment. It said in summary that in
the required harassment prevention trainings, there is no penalty for
answering incorrectly. Gallagher concluded this means that as long as
you get the indoctrination, you woren't good to go. Christina
Irwin appeared on Fox she's a candidate for California State Senate.

(01:02:17):
It's unbelievable, she agreed. This is not fair to the
kids because people have a right to have a different opinion.

Speaker 38 (01:02:23):
And I wish people would see that because you know,
the career politicians and Sacramento, they're out here censoring free
speech instead of dealing with our bills. They need to
be limiting our bills that are happening in Sacramento, not this.

Speaker 39 (01:02:32):
We have bigger problems.

Speaker 37 (01:02:33):
Irwin said she's a mother of three kids and that
she's seen firsthand that our schools are becoming quote indoctrination camps.
So what's the remedy.

Speaker 38 (01:02:40):
This is the only thing I would like to defund
and dismantle is the California education system. We need to
revamp it. We need to start fresh. We need to
actually start teaching kids reading, writing, math, training them on
vocational skills. Not everybody's meant for college. Some are, some aren't.
They need to be learning gardening, stocks, bonds, ye, maybe
even writing a checkbook.

Speaker 39 (01:03:01):
And how about AI. That's a new one.

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The comic book that introduced the world to Superman has
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its founders.

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is so that the problem of the rensidentity will be
the emergence of a new international order.

Speaker 7 (01:04:45):
The first decade of the twenty first century. But out
of what will be feared the greatest.

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Restructuring of the global economy, the greatest restructuring of the
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new world order was created.

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Right documenting the crisis of our republic.

Speaker 9 (01:05:03):
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This is govern America with Darren Weeks and Vicky Davis.

Speaker 13 (01:05:41):
From Femer Regions five to ten. This is the second
hour of Governor America. Darren Weeks and Vicky Davis here
with you as we are every Saturday. We hope you'll
tell somebody about the broadcast. And as we continue here
on hour number two, this is the tenth of January
twenty twenty six. As we get back into the show.
At the end of the last hour, we were talking
about the death, the suspicious death of this judge that's

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overseeing Benjamin Yahoo's corruption trial. The judge's name is Benny Segi.
S a G. I wouldn't that be Segi?

Speaker 15 (01:06:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (01:06:18):
You're I think I think you got your mic off.

Speaker 15 (01:06:21):
Yeah, yeah, that sounds that's how I would say it.

Speaker 13 (01:06:24):
Okay, Yeah, according to let's see, what is this publication?
This is one foreign A foreign publication, says the all
I'm gonna try to talk here. Suspicious death. It's Ranka
r O k Rakna Rakna political desk. The suspicious death
of Benny Sega Segi, the judge handling Netna Who's corruption

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case known as Case three thousand, has raised numerous questions
regarding his role and exposing large scale corruption linked to
the purchase of submarine and warships from Germany. Was this
incident an accident or was there something beyond it? The
circumstances of the judge's death, according to a report by FARS,

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you know what, I might as well just jump to
the far's report. I think I've got well, this is
mer But according to a report by FARS based on
information from news sources, Segi had recently, in the course
of completing the investigation, requested access to classified documents they
could have further clarified the political and financial connections within

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the case. However, on the first day of twenty twenty six,
he lost his life in a tragic accident on Highway
Number six. Police announced that the cause of the accident
was a traffic violation and drug use by the driver
of the opposing vehicle. The timing of the incident occurring
precisely as the hearings were concluding and the issuance of

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a final verdict was approaching, and has prompted some experts
to raise questions the timing has the ruling was expected
to play a decisive role and the fate of key defendants,
including David Charan, the former head of the Prime Minister's office,
under current judicial procedures, the death of the judge has

(01:08:19):
resulted in a lengthy delay in legal process. Isn't that
convenient for certain people?

Speaker 15 (01:08:26):
Yeah, it's kind of amazing how that happens.

Speaker 13 (01:08:30):
Just coincident, this legal interpretation or I'm sorry, this legal
interruption will benefit the defendants, as a new judge will
require considerable time to review the complex body of evidence.
The accident scene itself has added to the ambiguities surrounding
the incident. The vehicle that caused the crash entered the

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highway from a dirt road at a blind spot, a
scenario often cited as a method used in targeted eliminations
in political cases. Previous investigations cisr's cutter Gate have also
pointed to potential links between government offices and security institutions
in confrontations with opponents. Nevertheless, no documented evidence has been

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presented to demonstrate a direct connection between this incident and
the Prime Minister's Office for Beneficiary Groups. However, investigations indicate
that the incident has led to a halt in the
judicial process of case three thousand, providing a significant opportunity
for the defendants and individuals associated with the case. According

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to reports from Israeli sources, it is still unclear which
judge will assume responsibility for continuing the proceedings in this
sensitive case. I will add to that whatever judge they get,
and would assume the pressure would be on to have
a more net yahoo sympathetic judge. But whatever the case,

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whatever judge would be assuming the case after this guy
was oft if in fact that's what happened, he's got
to have that, whether whether or not it was, he's
got to have that in it. He or she has
got to have that in their mind that the previous
judge suffered a very strange death, had a very strange accident,

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had a very strange timing in the case, right before
a verdict was coming down. That's going to have to
weigh upon the mind of any judge that would take over.
I would imagine.

Speaker 15 (01:10:36):
Yeah, that's the same thing that happened with the Cocks
and Reese's hearings on nonprofits, on foundations and nonprofits. Same
thing happened right at the end of the case. They
were just wrapping it up, and then the chairman died.

Speaker 13 (01:10:57):
Yeah, and this go ahead. I'm sorry.

Speaker 15 (01:11:00):
Oh, and then another one had to take over, and
of course it ended very quickly thereafter.

Speaker 13 (01:11:07):
Yeah, that's what I'm concerned about here, this so called accident.
And that's my words, not theirs. This comes as Benjamin
who has made extensive efforts to prevent prosecution and obtain
a pardon while the case remains shrouded in uncertainty. So
I've got other sources on this, the Mere News Agency,

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which strangely enough, I couldn't get to that article this morning,
so I had to go back into the archive and
dig it up. But they said, according to police, the
vehicle was driving off road, came up onto the highway
and hit Seggy's motorbike. Okay, so I guess he was
on a motorbike and that was a cite the Times

(01:11:53):
of Israel. So I have the Times of Israel report
as well. And so anyway, I think we've said enough
about that. It's just a strange situation, uh in a yeah, yeah,
it seems to be a lot of those these days,
it doesn't there. All right, let's go to the phones.

(01:12:15):
We have a call in Georgia right now. Let's go
ahead and take the call. Hello, you're on the air,
Go ahead, please.

Speaker 16 (01:12:22):
Hey guys, this is Art and Georgia. Hey, you mentioned
the you've originally mentioned, uh, the One World Order, uh,
and when it got started basically, And I did some
research into that many many many years ago, probably over

(01:12:43):
a decade or so ago. And here's what I learned.
I had to go back to my documents because I
document everything I research and learn good. And here's what
here's what I found out. So if you'll bear with me,
there's a good bit here. Keep in mind, under the
Constitution of the United States, you know, when we're talking

(01:13:03):
about the Framework Convention on Climate Change, which is part
of that Executive Orders thing that you read earlier. Keep
in mind, under the Constitution in the United States, there
is a provision which requires a two third majority in
the Senate to approve any treaty. So with regards to
the Framework Convention on Climate Change, I believe, if I

(01:13:26):
remember correctly, this was signed in nineteen sixty and at
that time approximately one hundred and ninety countries were signed
up with it. Now here's what Lord Christopher Moncton described it.
He said, this treaty will for the first time, So
according to him, this is the first time this was done.

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Create a world government which will allow the government to
intervene directly in all matters involving the economy and the environment,
to transfer or redistribute wealth throughout the world, which would say,
actually be a tax of approximately two percent of the
gross de mets of product of the wealthy developed countries,

(01:14:07):
which would in turn be given to the poorer countries. Now,
when researching the Framework Convention on Climate Change, I found
two specific things that go directly to what Lord Markton said.
Annex one, paragraph thirty eight of this treaty, the Framework
Convention on Climate Change, is where you find the first

(01:14:31):
direct mention of a one world government. Now keep in mind,
Lord Monckton would know about these things because he was
involved in many, many treaty negotiations, and he even wrote
at least one treaty himself, so he would know what
he's talking about, what he's referring to these things. Also
in Annex one, paragraph thirty six is where they directly

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talk about how they're going to close down the free market.
They will have the capacity to interfere in all financial
markets worldwide, and they're in that Annex one paragraph thirty
eight is a provision in the treaty which will allow
them to be able to tax the countries, the wealthy countries,

(01:15:16):
at two percent of all their financial transactions. And so
you want to talk about a globalist, power hungry, socialist, Marxist,
Nazi mentality, this is definitely a Pandora box and this
has got to be stopped. Which is why when Trump
in Executive Order one four one ninety nine when he

(01:15:39):
mentioned the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, I was
absolutely thrilled, because that will remove our participation if he's
able to do this from engaging in a one world government.

Speaker 15 (01:15:55):
The problem is Trump is doing everything with executive orders,
and the Congress they're basically sitting on their hands.

Speaker 13 (01:16:05):
Yeah. Well, the other problem I see is that as
soon as the Democrat comes in office, all of this
stuff could be reversed. But I don't know. You know,
here's the problem that I see. I don't know with
if this technique is you know, I was thinking about
this this morning, the jokes that may or may not

(01:16:27):
be jokes about him having a third term. If yeah, I.

Speaker 15 (01:16:33):
Don't think it is a joke. And I'm not sure
that he can't do it. Actually, because we've explored.

Speaker 13 (01:16:40):
A little bit of that. There are ways, it seems
certain circumstances have to be right, and I forget all
the details. There are ways that it could potentially be
done involving, you know, an election of JD. Vance and
then Vance would resign theoretically, and you know, there's certain

(01:17:01):
maneuvers that could be pulled off potentially that would could
potentially get around the limitations to two terms. But my
concern is with everything that's going on right now, and
the North American Technate being built, and all of this

(01:17:21):
unrest going on which has been engineered for US. I
you know, Trump has been willing to pull push the
boundaries of everything that the executive branch can do constitutionally.
He's been able to he's been pushing that, I think

(01:17:44):
further than anybody. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't
end up validating some of these concerns that the Democrats have.
It's almost like it's almost like they whenever they accuse
him of something, then he's got to try to substantiate
the concern.

Speaker 16 (01:18:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:18:06):
I don't like I think. I think he is working on, uh,
the formalization of the well we'll call it technique because
that's as good as any any term. But it is
a continental governing structure, right, and so the the America's

(01:18:28):
you could call it the Americas.

Speaker 13 (01:18:30):
And and and what is going to happen with the
monetary union of the Americas because if you if you
have a a a united hemisphere, then you're going to
have to have a single currency for that hemisphere. Yeah, well,
you know he's been pushing for all of these, uh
you know, for the digitized digitization of currencies. He says

(01:18:53):
he's against the CBDC. He has made lip service to
not having a CBDC. But you can call it anything
you want, or choose not to call it a CBDC.
The bottom line is the name of the game is
control and I really think that they're all working together
in a synergistic matter. Am I being too paranoid? Art?

Speaker 16 (01:19:18):
No, I don't think so at all. And I totally
agree with what you and and Vicky are saying, because
the only way, as far as I know, the only
way that any of these executive orders are going to
be held in the future is if Congress gets off

(01:19:40):
their butts and begins to codify these things into law. Because,
like you said, all it's going to take is for
a Democrat to get in there and struggle a pen.
It's gone.

Speaker 13 (01:19:52):
Yep.

Speaker 16 (01:19:53):
Remember what Obama said, I've got a pen, and I'm
not afraid to use it.

Speaker 13 (01:19:57):
Yep. And during the Bill Clinton years it was a
stroke of the pen law of the land. I forget
which which one of Clinton's plus cabinet members said that.
But yeah, hey, thank you appreciate it.

Speaker 16 (01:20:09):
So unless they're willing to, you know, take those steps
and codify this in the wall, it doesn't amount to
a hill beans. Anyway, Thanks guys, I'll have a great one.

Speaker 13 (01:20:21):
You too, got back, All right, Let's go to Canada now,
British Columbia. Hello, you're on the air. Go ahead, please?

Speaker 17 (01:20:29):
Oh yes, good morning, icon. I just checked my references
here and we still got a super tanker a day
leaving Vancouver to go to China.

Speaker 13 (01:20:43):
Oh yeah, well you.

Speaker 17 (01:20:45):
Can include that as one of your sources for China's oil.
And that oil, of course comes out of Alberta, and
fifty of that oil in Alberta, probably more is owned
by eggs on the pipeline from those oil fans to
pork Equitlam here in Greater Vancouver was started by the

(01:21:08):
Kinder Morgan operation out of Texas, and it was then
somehow taken over by the Canadian government because of political machinations.
But I can understand why the United States has to
be aggressive in terms of its abilities to preserve its

(01:21:33):
stellself as a nation state.

Speaker 13 (01:21:35):
You see, is that what's happening?

Speaker 17 (01:21:38):
Well, all these nation states are what do they call it,
in a state of self help. There's no higher power
to tell China, Russia and the United States exactly how
to play the game. This is a key point. So
it's like, what do you call it? Charles Darwin and

(01:21:58):
the Law of the Jungle. But I wanted to say
something about the girl in Minneapolis.

Speaker 13 (01:22:05):
Yeah, you're talking about the hood, Yes, yes, the.

Speaker 7 (01:22:08):
Poor thing that was shot.

Speaker 17 (01:22:10):
Yes, she actually is, I think recently from Colorado. And
Colorado to me is a place where you have a
lot of counter intel ops. And I know this because
forty plus years ago I was involved in one of

(01:22:30):
those what do you call it demonstrations, Yeah, where a
whole bunch of us were out there on the streets
demonstrating against a rockepeller, David Rockefeller and his triparthite commissioned
blah blah. At the time, I didn't really know what
I was there for, except some of my radical buddies

(01:22:53):
dragged me there because Jackson Brown.

Speaker 7 (01:22:55):
Was there, you see.

Speaker 13 (01:22:56):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:22:58):
And then right, but then when you look at the
infrastructure of the thing, who paid Jackson Brown, who paid
Jesse Colliny on a lot.

Speaker 13 (01:23:08):
Of money funding this stuff, isn't there?

Speaker 17 (01:23:10):
Yeah? And so then in hindsight they say, hey, this
is co intel, you know, co Intel pro And they
even had a honey trap set up for me. Oh yeah,
And here's the deal. She came out of ten thousand
people we were marching, all of a sudden she was

(01:23:32):
beside me, talking to me, and we were going to
meet that night, right. Well, it ended up I met
some good old boys from South Dakota there who invited
me to have a beer with them, and I never
went back to the camp, right, I said, well.

Speaker 13 (01:23:49):
Are you telling me you stood up your handler?

Speaker 17 (01:23:52):
Well, I'm afraid I did, all right, man. And well
but it even gets better, you see, because when you
look at that poor thing that got shot, somebody told her,
look at Mildred, you stay in the suv. Nothing's gonna happen.
You're just gonna block it, right, And then they walked

(01:24:13):
away on her, see yeah, and then all of a sudden.

Speaker 13 (01:24:16):
Well I think that was her lesbian lover, wasn't it.

Speaker 17 (01:24:19):
Well whatever, But the point is is they said we're
going to have your back, and then they didn't. They
walked away, see, And so she was left there on
her own devices. And probably she's never had a gun
pointed at her, right.

Speaker 13 (01:24:35):
Yeah, But I don't know that the gun was pointed
at her before the well before she tried to run
over the agent.

Speaker 17 (01:24:43):
I'm quite well aware of that. I'm not going to
say how it happened exactly, but based on you see,
I went to a very radical university. The kids get
out there, they get promised something. I mean, they protested
the Kinder Morgan pipeline here in Vancouver, and they told me,
they said, hey, look at you just have to stand
there in front of the cops. But when the cops says,

(01:25:05):
if you don't move, you'll be under arrest, well, yeah,
that's fine, except if one of their guys decided to
slug the cop, then I'd get arrested as well. You see, Yeah,
this is how do you think go And so you've
got an Antifa or you've got some kind of subversive
group behind these things.

Speaker 13 (01:25:23):
So back to you, Yeah, I agree that they Antifa
and subversive groups. I think subversive billionaires are behind it
as well. Frankly, because somebody is paying for this. There's
no way these are organic. So to your point though,
about the girl itself, any angle you watched that from

(01:25:43):
and I've seen a number of different videos of the
same thing. She tried to run over the cops. She
tried to run over the federal officer. And I'm not
a fan of federal officers generally broadly, but they're there
to do the job of arresting ill legal aliens. And
I'm sorry, but you can't block roads, you can't encumber,

(01:26:05):
you can't get in the way of police operations and
expect to not number one, be arrested. Number two, if
you try to run over one of them, you should
expect to be shot. I'm sorry, but that's the reality
of it. And nobody forced her to do that. She
did that on her own accord.

Speaker 17 (01:26:23):
Right, Okay, I totally agree with you. But now what
do we have. We have coast to coast demonstrations, right
am I right?

Speaker 13 (01:26:32):
And yeah, but but see, this is what they do.
They seize upon, just like what the George Floyd thing.
They seize upon somebody that you know should not be celebrated,
and they turn it into a powder keg situation. They're
exploiting this whole thing. It was a terrible situation, but
they did. You know, they're just wait, lying in wait,

(01:26:54):
ready to exploit. Hey, I got a run, I got
a bottom of the art break. Thank you, Thank you
for the call. Yeah, ye, talk to you soon. Bye bye.

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Speaker 45 (01:31:11):
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Speaker 13 (01:31:28):
All right, we're back, they say, is Governor America. As
we continue on here, I just wanted to address a
little bit of what the last caller was talking about.
I will concede that this person who was shot in Minnesota, VICKI,
you got a TV or something on in the background.
I don't know what I'm hearing here, but it's coming anyway.

(01:31:53):
I would concede that this I've got people talking. Let
me let me pot this down a little bit. I
will concede that she probably was not aware that that
would be her last day on earth, and that she
may not have been aware of what she was getting into.

(01:32:15):
One thing that I've noticed is these people that are
blocking these intersections and interfering with these ice officers when
they're trying to perform their duties. They have these big
smiles on their face, like this whole thing is a
big game. It's not a game. When you're talking about
interfering with law enforcement activity, this is not a game.

(01:32:39):
Yet they sit there with a big smile on their
face like they're really accomplishing something like the cat that
ate the Canary. And you certainly can't be running over people.
You can't be running over people with your car and
not expect retribution for them, especially when this is I mean,

(01:33:02):
that is a justification for deadly force. I'm sorry, and
certain people may get angry at me for saying that.
I don't care. I think what's happened there is a tragedy,
but it was a tragedy of her own making. You
don't run over cops, sorry, or anyone else for that matter. Anybody,
in my opinion, would have their justification to use deadly

(01:33:23):
force when you're trying to run over them with your car.
You just don't do that. But it's especially stupid to
do it to a police officer. I don't care if
they're a federal officer, a state officer, or a local
sheriff or county sheriff, a local police. You don't run

(01:33:44):
over people. And that's what she did. I mean, it's
very clear that that's what she did. His body cam
footage makes that very clear. But even before that was released,
the other angle, it's very clear that that was what
was going on. And then there were two others in

(01:34:08):
Portland that were shot as well, which further inflame the situation.
We'll get to that as time progresses. So, Vicky, you
were going to say something, I think.

Speaker 15 (01:34:18):
Yeah, well you can't. You just can't aim at a
cop with your car. I mean I over the past
few days, I think it was Fox News every single program,
every show went over the same story, same thing. You know,

(01:34:40):
it's like nothing else is happening in the country. But
it's absolutely well.

Speaker 13 (01:34:46):
That's the mainstream media. I mean they pretty much drop
everything and cover one thing.

Speaker 15 (01:34:51):
Yeah, it's now. I understand that there's a prosecute in
Minnesota that's going to try and prosecute him in the state.
I don't think they can do that.

Speaker 13 (01:35:07):
Oh they can, and they will, and they might hear he's.

Speaker 15 (01:35:11):
A federal officer and he was engaged in the line
of duty.

Speaker 13 (01:35:17):
Yeah, if I were, if I were them, that's an
interesting point. I just wouldn't go to Minnesota anymore.

Speaker 15 (01:35:26):
Well with hit, Yeah, I mean that's what a normal
person would do. But cops they go where they're sent.
But he'll probably be off duty, you know, while they
do their perfunctory investigation. But nothing's going to happen to
him that that state judge is not going to prosecute him.

(01:35:49):
It's not going to happen.

Speaker 13 (01:35:51):
Well, we're in different times. I know that as time
progresses here, maybe we'll get to Tim Walls, this other
piece of work, who now apparently wants to mobilize the
National Guard. For what purpose is he mobilizing the National Guard?

Speaker 16 (01:36:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (01:36:10):
What does he think they gonna He's going to use
his National Guard against the federal officers. I don't think
so that that could be a real problem.

Speaker 13 (01:36:19):
Yeah. Here here's the audio. Let me just go ahead
and play this. I will where we got to call
on the line. Just hang with me for just a moment.
Their color. Uh, this is Tim Walls this week talking
about how he's activating the National Guard, giving putting them
on notice. And you got to wonder, it's like, is
this for the purpose of keeping the peace? Because he
certainly hasn't done that, so apparently that's not what it's for.

(01:36:42):
So you can only come to the conclusion that he's
putting them on notice and activating them, uh, for the
purpose of potentially coming against the federal ice officers.

Speaker 46 (01:36:50):
We've been warning for weeks that the Trump administration's dangerous,
sensationalized operations are a threat to our public safety, and
today that recklessness costs someone their life. There's nothing more
important than Minnesota and safety. I've issued a warning order
to prepare the Minnesota National Guard. We have soldiers in
training and prepared to be deployed if necessary. I remind

(01:37:10):
you a warning order is a heads up for folks.
And these National Guard troops are our National Guard troops.
They're teachers in your community, their business owners, their construction professionals.
They are Minnesotans. Minnesota will not allow our community to
be used as a prop in a national political fight.
We will not take the bait.

Speaker 13 (01:37:31):
Yeah, but you have taken the bait. Have you known?
This is a guy of course, that was in charge?
You know when they burned down the police wasn't that Minnesota?
Were they burned down the police station?

Speaker 15 (01:37:48):
I don't know if that was Minnesota.

Speaker 13 (01:37:50):
Or Wisconsin, but no, I think it was. It might
have been Wisconsin. I don't know. I might be getting there.

Speaker 15 (01:37:56):
I think he's kind of semi retarded. Actually, well, I
don't think. I don't think he's very bright you're.

Speaker 13 (01:38:03):
Being very generous. Actually, I think he's just profoundly traitorous
and a total worthless piece of garbage scumbagh.

Speaker 15 (01:38:14):
I can go with that.

Speaker 13 (01:38:16):
I mean, if he was mentally retarded, I could have
some affection for him. Anyway, Let's go out to Arizona
and take a call there. Hello, you're on the air.

Speaker 28 (01:38:24):
God please, yes, good morning, This mic and Arizona the
discussion of about the New World Order. I have a book.
It's called Lawrence of Arabia. It's the authorized biography of T. E.
Lawrence by Jeremy Wilson. It's like an eleven hundred page book.

(01:38:44):
Lawrence was a very prolific letter writer, and he'd turn
out ten thousand word letters every day, and he'd have
correspondence with people like Winston Churchill and other members of
the parliament. And in this book they reproduce the letters

(01:39:05):
that he had received. Is he had surviving brothers and
then they got his correspondence his estate, and then they
passed those on to their brothers sons. And when Jeremy
Wilson came along to produce this book, he was given

(01:39:29):
all the correspondents of those, you know, the letters, and
in this book. They reproduce it and Lawrence received a
letter from someone. I haven't looked it up, being that
that's such a lengthy book, but it clearly states in

(01:39:49):
there that what he was doing over there was for
the quote unquote new World Order. Wow, this term dates
back to it leads World War One.

Speaker 13 (01:40:02):
Yep, that's interesting.

Speaker 15 (01:40:05):
Well, I think, yeah, I think the Mackinder plan dates
back to the sixteen hundreds if I'm not mistaken. But
you know, the plan for territorial territorial governing structure.

Speaker 13 (01:40:23):
So yeah, this has been what we can know. What
we can know is this has been a long laid
plan for all of our lives and beyond, and it's
ages old, and now they're on the threshold of achieving
it for the first time. They've thought they were closed

(01:40:44):
in the past, but they really have it ratcheted up
the process, I think, and I think subsequently exposed themselves
for having done it. A lot of people are aware
of the plan. A lot of people are I think
that's part of the reason why we have so much
division today in conservatism and patriot circles, and by patriots,

(01:41:08):
I'm using that word loosely, I'm using that in terms
of people who are on the right, who are who
are mega, who are still following Donald Trump. A lot
of people justify what. You know, They're willing to take
the the bad that he does and excuse it because
they think there's a greater good involved there.

Speaker 15 (01:41:33):
Yeah, but I don't think so. I don't think so.
Now that he's talking about Greenland.

Speaker 13 (01:41:39):
You don't, no, listen. I specifically remember Charlie Kirk when
he first started talking about Greenland. Charlie Kirk went over
there a delegation.

Speaker 15 (01:41:50):
Oh I didn't know that.

Speaker 16 (01:41:51):
I didn't know.

Speaker 13 (01:41:51):
Oh yeah, Charlie Kirk came on his podcast and started
talking up Greenland. You know, now he didn't Trump to
be fair. Trump wasn't saying at the time that we're
going to take it by force like he is now.
You know, we're going to get it no matter what.
But people are willing to justify anything if they think
that the end justifies the means, if they think that

(01:42:15):
there's a greater good involved, or you're going to avoid
some bad catastrophe. And I think a lot of conservatives
now are motivated and energized by a strong United States.
They think, hey, look we're strong again, We're playing strong
on the world stage. That means all of our enemies

(01:42:36):
are going to be afraid of us. That look at
us exercising our military muscle. That's a great thing. What
they don't see is that this is a process that
is building the new world order. This is exactly what's
going on here. They're playing right into it, and I
think it's ingenious from this, I hate to give them

(01:42:58):
a compliment, but I think from the standpoint of the globalists,
it's genius to have them put somebody like Donald Trump
there to be a blowhard for everything that we have
been crying about, screaming about forever. I mean, how many
times on this broadcast have we talked about the need
for terrorists, for instance, to stop other countries from taking

(01:43:21):
advantage of us. That's a mantra of Donald Trump. That's
one of his big talking points is tariffs and other
countries not taking advantage of us.

Speaker 15 (01:43:33):
But yet which which was done intentionally. By the way,
it was not a mistake that they wrote those trade
agreements to bleed out our country because what they were
buying was buy in on the continental governing structure.

Speaker 13 (01:43:53):
The talk against communist China, you know, to talk about
how they shouldn't be operating in our head hemisphere. All
of that appeals to conservatives. I have to admit, you know,
I've said on this broadcast, I don't want the Chinese
operating in our hemisphere, in Latin America or anywhere else.
I do find it a little odd, though, that they're

(01:44:14):
still operating here in the United States with next to
our military basis, and nothing really is being done about that.

Speaker 15 (01:44:19):
Seemingly, Yeah, still buying property and yeah, I agree.

Speaker 13 (01:44:25):
Has the EB five visa program? Is that still an
act enacted?

Speaker 15 (01:44:28):
BICKI they replaced well, I don't know that they replaced it.
But Donald Trump's gold card is the EB five visa.
He just gave it a new name and they changed
the terms. The money no longer has to go to
a local UH development organization. Apparently it can just go

(01:44:55):
to the Treasury, and the investment can invest, you know,
wherever he wants.

Speaker 13 (01:45:04):
Apparently, Okay, according to Perplexity, No, the EB five visa
program has not been rescinded. It remains authorized by Congress
through the EB five Program and the Integrity Act of
twenty twenty two, So it's still an effect. Despite the
fact that we have Republicans in charge of Donald Trump
at the in the White House. So the biggest thing

(01:45:26):
that enables China to buy their way into the country,
you know, he just he built upon it. Like you said, Vicky,
the gold card builds upon the existing EB five. But
the EV five visas are still are still there. There's
still a thing.

Speaker 15 (01:45:38):
Right well, And what happened with that EB five visa
is that the investor bought his way into the country
and then started a business and needed to import experts
from his own country. And that may maybe how the

(01:46:01):
Somalis got in our country and such numbers.

Speaker 13 (01:46:05):
Yeah, Color, I don't want to leave you hanging. I'll
give you another shot there.

Speaker 28 (01:46:11):
Okay, very good. I'd like to weigh in about this
ice shooting. Yeah, number one with no balls walls going
on there. It reminds me of the bussing and the
integration back in what the nineteen fifties. I think it
was Eisenhower when the Wallace governor. Wallace activated the National

(01:46:34):
Guard to block the entrance of the black people into
the schools, and Eisenhower had sent the US military down
there to force the integration, and he bypassed it. It's like, okay, well, fine,
you got to going to get the National Guard down there.
I'm just going to federalize the troops. And it's like, okay,

(01:46:56):
you guys that are standing on this side of the road,
you come over. We're here and stand on that side
of the road. So that has nothing to do with
what Walls is trying to attempt to do. Donald Trump
is just going to activate the troops and ain't Nothing's
going to happen. Second of all, is the is the reaction.
You know, when George Floyd died, the Democrats or the activists,

(01:47:20):
the progressives burnt down cities, and when Charlie Kirk died,
we had prayer vigils, and I hear all this stuff
on the news media of about this poor unfortunate woman
that died. It's a tragedy, blah blah blah. You know
what we need to We need to adopt the Democrats'

(01:47:42):
position on this, and she needs to be ridiculed and
made fun of and smeared, just like the Democrats tried
to do to Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 13 (01:47:51):
Yeah, I don't know, I don't I don't agree with that. Honestly,
I think we can be better than in them.

Speaker 15 (01:48:01):
Well, I agree with the sentiment, but you can't do
that kind of stuff.

Speaker 13 (01:48:05):
Actually, well, I don't want to lose I don't think
we should lose our humanity. The point is is that
she was a fool. What she did was absolutely foolish,
and she paid the price for it. That being said,
I don't I don't think we should be holding them
up as heroes for sure, And she certainly was not

(01:48:25):
a victim. She was a victim of her own stupidity.
So that agree. I guess I did kind of ridicule her,
but I'm not. I'm not what the Democrats did. What
the left did to Charlie Kirk was print t shirts
with pictures of him, caricatures of him with blood shooting
out of his neck. I just can't. I don't advocate

(01:48:47):
for that level because she probably had a family that
loved her, and.

Speaker 15 (01:48:54):
So yeah, I think she had children.

Speaker 13 (01:48:57):
I look at this as something she can go quietly
into the night, uh and God will judge her for
her actions, her deeds on earth, and then we forget
her and move on, because there are plenty of other
fools to take her place. There are plenty of other
people that have drunk. The Marxist communist you know, fist

(01:49:19):
in the air, revolutionary agenda, kool aid and uh and
unfortunately we have no shortage of those idiots. But but yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:49:32):
I think we must have been importing them.

Speaker 13 (01:49:35):
Well, I think we're pretty good at making homegrown stupidity anymore.

Speaker 15 (01:49:41):
Well, yeah, you.

Speaker 13 (01:49:42):
But anyway, probably, Hey, sir, I really appreciate the cog
God pleasure.

Speaker 28 (01:49:46):
Sir, get no sweat man. Thank you for your time.
Enjoy your broadcast later.

Speaker 13 (01:49:50):
Yeah, thank you, thank you. All right, let's go to Missouri. Now. Hello,
you're on the air. It's Sam and welcome in into
the broadcast.

Speaker 30 (01:50:00):
Yeah. Absolutely, I wanted to get in earlier this time.

Speaker 13 (01:50:03):
There you go.

Speaker 30 (01:50:05):
But I wanted to comment on this whole situation here.
From the standpoint, what we have here is what I
would refer to as struggle sessions, pressure from above, pressure
from below. You got the left doing their thing, and
then Trump and the and the process of combating it
is creating the very thing that conservatives one time would

(01:50:26):
have stood against, be you know, in the sense of
a police state, in the sense that in a way,
what you're going to wind up with is ice as
a federal police force. And the Democrats could come right
and use ice in reverse against the conservatives later is
my fear out of all this whole in the end,
you're still winding up with a totalitarian state.

Speaker 13 (01:50:47):
Uh.

Speaker 30 (01:50:47):
And basically what you got here is people fighting who
over who's going to use the government as a weapon
is really what you're really good?

Speaker 15 (01:50:56):
Point? Yeah, very good.

Speaker 13 (01:50:58):
Yeah, that's that is then, because and it has caught
crossed my mind. The problem is is that people are
being conditioned to accept militaristic types of police in the streets,
you know. And if this thing continues to escalate, it
could very well be at some point that Trump will

(01:51:19):
declare the Insurrection Act. And that isn't as bad as
if he comes right out and declares martial law and
all of this stuff. To me, I don't think Trump
is beyond doing. In fact, there's already people who are
calling for the Insurrection Act. And frankly, if it gets

(01:51:39):
bad enough, you know what plays in my mind here
is are the words of Henry Kissinger back allegedly in Evans, France.
Henry Kissinger said today Americans would be outraged. If you
end troops enter Los Angeles to restore order tomorrow, they
will be grateful This is especially true if there was

(01:52:00):
some outside threat from beyond the one thing that every
man fears is the unknown. And he said that they
would people would be willingly relinquishing this US sovereignty to
the world body if they perceived that there was a
threat that was bad enough. And I'm paraphrasing there. That

(01:52:21):
was the best that could do from memory on that quote.
But that is that is really the case where when
people feel threatened enough, they're willing to give it all up.
They're willing to surrender if it feels if it'll make
them feel safe. And we can't surrender to the police
state now.

Speaker 30 (01:52:42):
In fact, I'm already running into memes occasionally, people coming
up with a new phrase. Now you know, the based
off of the click at or ticket thing that you
have of the seatbelt laws now is show your hands
obey commands.

Speaker 7 (01:52:57):
Wow.

Speaker 30 (01:52:59):
So how bad it's getting. And this is why I
say we're winding up with the Conservatives being the police
state mentality, and then the Democrats have their own police
state mentality. Just depends on which one you want to pick.
And then we go back now to the anti Semitism
stuff that started springing up from Israel and the Trump

(01:53:19):
administration where they were talking about going after people for
anti Semitism. Remember Pam BONDI, Oh yeah, well think using
the exact same terminology as the left uses.

Speaker 13 (01:53:30):
Yeah, you're not allowed to criticize Israel. You're not allowed
to criticize any Jews. You're not allowed to. Isn't it
amazing how quickly the standards go out the window when
it's your team, your team that's doing it, your team
that's committing the treachery. Yeah, we don't have a team.

(01:53:52):
We don't have a team, but what we do have.
Every side has their situational ethics. Every side. The ethics
go right out the window. The standards, there's no standards.

Speaker 30 (01:54:06):
I'm always starting my radio show now. When I started out,
I said, welcome to Off the Cuff Radio. I'm your
political atheist.

Speaker 13 (01:54:13):
There you go, there you go. Get by the way.
Speaking of which, we got about a minute left. I
think before the break, you want to go ahead and
plug that.

Speaker 30 (01:54:20):
Yeah, we're going to start up again tomorrow night. It
will be seven to ten pm Eastern Time. We'll just
use Eastern time because everybody knows Eastern time. And a
new twist. I finally have started figuring out how to
use substacks. So we're going up on substack. Now, oh cool,
we'll make the show available in podcast form. And I'm

(01:54:42):
still learning it. I'm having to learn it by trial
and error. So I've got a few guinea pigs on
the email list that are willing to accept Sam's buckles
and all kinds of other stuff in the process. But
you know, it's substack, like some main things, is set
up for a sighted world and a blind person working
through it. It can be done, but you can't follow

(01:55:03):
their instructions. You have to you have to do it
on your own because you know, I'm not in I
couldn't tell you the first thing about him, you know,
emojis and all that kind of stuff like they talk
about up there and putting images up there, you know,
pictures and different things, because then you got to know
the size and all that stuff. And so but what

(01:55:23):
I am doing is I am able to get the
title of the show up there, show notes and the
broadcast and target the audience that I want to target.
So I figure, if I've got that done, I've got
something going.

Speaker 13 (01:55:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:55:35):
Yeah, well that's good, that's progressive.

Speaker 13 (01:55:37):
You give your address once more.

Speaker 30 (01:55:39):
Yeah, moo, Liberty Radio dot US. That'smo is in Missourian
and Libertyradio dot US. And we just got our website
back up after redoing it.

Speaker 13 (01:55:49):
So all right, great, Hey, thanks for the call. God
bless you, sir.

Speaker 30 (01:55:53):
You beg God bless you too.

Speaker 13 (01:55:54):
All right, talk to you soon, by bye. All right,
we're at the end of this hour, ladies and gentlemen. Uh,
one more hour to go and the fastest three hours
in talk radio. As we continue, we'll get into some
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Trump says that we're just here to get stop the drugs.
Stop the drugs.

Speaker 15 (01:56:16):
I thought we were there to get the oil.

Speaker 13 (01:56:18):
Well there's that too. There's a little bit more to
this story, as you can imagine that mister Trump is
talking about. We'll get into some of that in the
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Speaker 36 (01:59:02):
American Family News almost depe President Trump sharing details on
the US military operation in Venezuela during an exclusive interview
with Fox's Sean Hannity. Ashley Webster reports.

Speaker 47 (01:59:13):
The President praising everyone involved in the mission. He also
gave some eye opening insight into what happened.

Speaker 7 (01:59:20):
Nobody was killed. We didn't lose a soldier.

Speaker 18 (01:59:22):
We had some people wounded, but we didn't lose a soldier.

Speaker 13 (01:59:25):
A couple of very.

Speaker 18 (01:59:26):
Brave helicopter pilots were wounded pretty badly, but they're good.

Speaker 47 (01:59:29):
Venezuela's Interior Minister claims one hundred people were killed in
that mission, no Venezuelan citizens, though he also added the
Maduro suffered a leg injury during the capture and his
wife sustained a head injury, but no fatalities.

Speaker 36 (01:59:45):
On the US side, left wing protesters continue to cause
problems and fight against immigration officials in Minneapolis. Alexis McAdams is,
there were the latest.

Speaker 34 (01:59:54):
The mayor here in Minneapolis didn't drop an f bomb today,
but he didn't tell people not to, you know, act out,
because we I've seen it where they're spitting and fighting
with these federal agents. So I want to see what's
going to.

Speaker 24 (02:00:03):
Happen again today.

Speaker 34 (02:00:04):
It's almost as if on the ground, the state and
the local officials are watching a completely different video clip.

Speaker 24 (02:00:10):
Than the Feds.

Speaker 34 (02:00:11):
Because the city visuals say it's murder, the Fed say
it was justified.

Speaker 24 (02:00:14):
But it led to those protests.

Speaker 34 (02:00:16):
Rene Nicole Good, we're learning that she was an activist
according to DHS sources. You tell me she was part
of this group called ice Watch, and we heard about
it in other places, not just Minnesota. These people go out,
they call themselves legal observers, but they're not just observing.
According to the Feds. Rene Nicole Good was using her
car as a weapon. According to the federal prosecutors, they

(02:00:36):
say she hit an agent with their car.

Speaker 36 (02:00:38):
Here's DHS Assistant Secretary a Trician McLaughlin.

Speaker 48 (02:00:41):
This individual, the subject in question, the deceased, had been
following our law enforcement throughout the day, stalking them. At
the time of this incident, our law enforcement was outside
of their vehicle trying to get their vehicle out of
the snow when she started blocking our law enforcement, harassing them,
impeding lawful operations on the ground.

Speaker 36 (02:01:04):
Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Prying give a press conference today and
he seems to have drawn his own conclusions about what happened.

Speaker 49 (02:01:10):
I mean, the ICE agent walked away with a hip
injury that he might as well have gotten from closing
a refrigerator door with his hips. He was not injured.
He walked out of there with a hop in his step.

Speaker 36 (02:01:27):
Fox and Needs contributor Hugh hewittt reacts to the mayor's comments.

Speaker 50 (02:01:30):
He said on camera just now that the ice agent
was not injured, a declaratory statement. He said he walked
away with a hop in his gate, another adjective attempting
to import to the agent joy that is shooting had happened.
He is one of the carnival barkers of American politics
at this point, and you really can't trust anything that

(02:01:52):
he says. And I think he's taken his city and
done it great damage by making it abundantly clear it's
not governed serious.

Speaker 36 (02:02:00):
A conservative columnist says, it doesn't seem to matter to
Democrat politicians in Minnesota if someone tries to use a
car to ram federal immigration agents trying to round up
dangerous illegal aliens in Minneapolis.

Speaker 31 (02:02:12):
Minnesota Governor Tim Walls Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry have been
on the war path the wick of Wednesday's fatal shooting
a thirty seven year old renamed Nicole Macklin good by
an Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent after she refused orders
to stop her vehicle. Governor Walls has threatened to call
out the National Guard to confront ICE. Fry used foul

(02:02:34):
language to lamb Bass DHS for sending ICE agents to
the city. Robert Knight, as a columnist for the Washington Times,
you have the mayor.

Speaker 51 (02:02:44):
Of Minneapolis who presided over the George Floyd riots and
watched as a Minneapolis police station burned down before he
did anything. It's using their word to denounce ICE officials.
If you look at the video, the woman was clearly
trying to ram an Aid, and I guess if she'd survived,
she would have been charged with attempted murder. But that

(02:03:05):
doesn't seem to matter to the Democrats in Minnesota who
have circled the wagons and are defending their corrupt regime.

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Speaker 32 (02:03:45):
True for the rest.

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Of our nation, Governor America.

Speaker 1 (02:04:01):
and for future generations, a new.

Speaker 2 (02:04:08):
World order, new world or that new world order.

Speaker 3 (02:04:10):
This is a moment disease. The galeidoscope has been shaken.
Before they do, let us reorder this world around us.

Speaker 28 (02:04:21):
A new world order, a world where.

Speaker 4 (02:04:23):
The United Nations is poised to fulfill the historic vision
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Speaker 5 (02:04:27):
Nevertheless united stated in a key position to shape is
so that the problem of the rensidentity will be the
emergence of a new international.

Speaker 6 (02:04:39):
Order the first decade of the twenty first century, that
out of what is will be created the greatest restructuring
of the global economy, greatest restructuring of the global economy,
greatest restructuring.

Speaker 7 (02:04:51):
Of the global economy, a new world order was created.

Speaker 8 (02:04:56):
Douan the crisis of our rebel.

Speaker 9 (02:04:59):
The very word secret see is repugnant in a free
and open society. And we are as a people inherently
and historically opposed to secret societies, the secret oaths and
a secret.

Speaker 10 (02:05:13):
Proceedings waging war on the new world order.

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The councils of government we must guard again the acquisition
of unwanted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military
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This is Governor America with Darren Weeks and Vicky Davis.

Speaker 13 (02:05:48):
From Femer Regions five and ten. This is the third
and final hour of Governor America. Vicky Davis is here.
I'm during Weeks and it continues to be the tenth
of January twenty twenty sixth As we get back into
the show here. I wanted to get into Venezuela a
little bit. One of the things that concerned me a
lot is the fact that Taulci Gabbert ran on the

(02:06:11):
idea that we were going to end regime change wars.
That was one of her big talking points. And yet
the silence now is deafening from Tulsa Gabbert. And I
want to know where Tulsia Gabbert is on this. Why
isn't she speaking out or did she just get absorbed
by the deep state and all of a sudden now

(02:06:31):
she can't speak out or resign because everything is being
done without her. Mediaite, says Director of National Intelligence. Tulsa
Gabbard was reportedly in the dark about the Trump administration's
plan to invade Venezuela and depot's president, Nicholas Maduro. Bloomberg
reported on Thursday that the White House excluded the nation's

(02:06:52):
top intelligence from discussions about the planned ouster, which was
carried out on Saturday.

Speaker 7 (02:07:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (02:07:00):
See, that's a complete opposite point of view than one
I heard over this weekend. I think it was from J.
D Vance actually, and he was saying that they all knew,
including Tulsea Gabbert. Well that what they were going to
do in Venezuela. So we can't even get a straight story, you.

Speaker 13 (02:07:22):
Know, yeah, very very very good. I'm glad you added
that in. By the way, can you whatever that you
got on in the background if you can.

Speaker 15 (02:07:29):
Oh, okay, yeah, I can do that.

Speaker 13 (02:07:31):
Hold on, so, Bloomberg reported. They said on Thursday, the
White House excluded the Nation Stop Intelligence from discussions about
the plandouster, which was carried out on Saturday. People familiar
with the situation said that Gabert had previously opposed US
intervention in the South American country. As Vicky just said,

(02:07:51):
she said that JD Vance claimed that Gabbard was read
in on it. So who knows? The United States needs
to day out of Venezuela, Gabbard said then a Democrat
member of Congress in a tweet, she says, let the
Venezuelan people determine their future. We don't want other countries
to choose our leaders, so we have to stop trying

(02:08:13):
to choose theirs. I will say too, I hold Cat
Temp in high regard for having the courage to go
on Fox News. She was For those of you that
don't know, Cat Cat Temp is a regular panelist. I
guess you'd say on the show Gutfeld, the late night

(02:08:36):
talk comedy show on Fox News, and that it is
a comedy show, okay, and and they're actually doing very
well in the ratings. They including making they make fun
of even their own hosts. It's it is funny. It's
a funny show. But they also have their political commentary

(02:08:56):
in there as well, which is very partisan. You know,
raw raw raw, Trump, Trump Trump. It would describe most
of it. But I will say Kat temp who is
also a writer on the show, but she's also one
of the regular panelists, she spoke out against this. I
didn't clip the audio. I thought about it, but I didn't,

(02:09:22):
she said I And I'll try to paraphrase what she
said as best I can. Basically, she says, I feel
like the American people kind of have the conservatives have
whiplash because on the one hand, Trump has ran on
you know that we got to have we got to
stop these regime change wars, and now we have what

(02:09:46):
amounts to a regime change going on in Venezuela.

Speaker 15 (02:09:50):
And she says, well, the Chinese were moving in down
in Venezuela. I think that's what the real concuser.

Speaker 13 (02:09:56):
Chinese have been moving in down there for a long time.
And a lot of this, I think is because of
we have not had real diplomacy in our country for
a long time. We've been focused the United States has
the State Department has on on on the Middle East,
on every place else but our own hemisphere. There has

(02:10:20):
been There has been very little engagement, i think with
Latin America other than hey, let's just you know, give
have trade agreements with them, and you know, just like
the Chinese, if we have open borders and an agreement,
you know, everybody's going to be happy when we send
all of our businesses down there. Every everybody's going to

(02:10:41):
be happy. Once we have all these multilateral trade agreements.
It'll just be one big, happy continent.

Speaker 15 (02:10:49):
Yeah, except except for the American people who won't get
the jobs, won't get any job.

Speaker 13 (02:10:55):
And except for the Latin American people who run off
their land when American businesses go down there.

Speaker 15 (02:11:00):
Well that's true too, yeah.

Speaker 13 (02:11:01):
And then they have no choice but to go somewhere
to better themselves, and guess where they're going to go.
So that's the situation we've had for a long time.
And so she spoke out in favor of that or
in you know, basically going against the grain. I respect

(02:11:24):
somebody that's courageous enough to go against the grain. You know.
The Dixie Chicks come to mind, even though they're on
the left, or they at least came to be on
the left at the time that they came out against
George W. Bush's war in the Middle East, or at

(02:11:45):
least ask questions about it. They really even I don't
even think they came out against it. They just express doubt. Well,
that's enough to have all the unhinged people on the
right come after you. And and this is the problem.
It's like I was telling a friend of mine recently,
there are just as many unhinged people on the right

(02:12:07):
as there are on the left.

Speaker 15 (02:12:09):
Oh, no doubt.

Speaker 13 (02:12:10):
Yeah, See, we can't agree. You got to attack somebody
if they disagree with you. And that is the way.
And I'm sure kat tempt you know she spoke out.
She says, I knew this was going to be bad
when I said it. I had no idea how bad
it was going to be. Yeah, well, I bet I
bet she's getting death threats.

Speaker 15 (02:12:32):
Oh, I'm sure, I'm sure. I'm not sure that they
aren't agitating this on purpose so that we have a
civil war, because if you have a civil war, of course,
then you go into martial law and then and then
the government can be tyrannical with cause. So I'm not

(02:12:56):
sure that it isn't on purpose.

Speaker 13 (02:12:59):
Well, I think it is a purpose, and I think
you're right. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if that's
not the plan, and that is that is our concern,
you know, I share that concern, all right. In the
interest of time moving along here, I wanted to get
into but but Taulca gabbered, where are you? Taulca gabbered,

(02:13:22):
You may have been, you may or may not have
been in the dark leading up to the Venezuela alster,
but you certainly know about it. Now. Do you have
a cushy, bureaucratic job now with a big paycheck that
you're not willing to speak out and say this is
not right? What's going on? Where are you? Tulca gabbered,

(02:13:46):
You're in a position as director of National Intelligence. Supposedly
you're supposed to be these people's bosses.

Speaker 15 (02:13:55):
Yeah, Actually, you know what, I'm not that a posed
to what was done in Venezuela. He was not a
legitimate leader. He was not an elected leader.

Speaker 13 (02:14:07):
Yeah, well that's the talking points, VICKI. Who are we
to decide what's a legitimate leader and who's not. You know,
there are people, they're Democrats here in this country. They
don't think Donald Trump is a legitimate leader.

Speaker 15 (02:14:19):
When they're sending up their gang members up to our
country and those people are killing our people. I mean,
it's a whole big message.

Speaker 13 (02:14:31):
Years we had an administration that led him in. Well,
so are they send them or were we encouraging them
to come? And who's the legitimate leader? You know, certainly
I don't think Joe Biden was a legitimate leader.

Speaker 15 (02:14:46):
It was somebody that was elected at least, but Maduro
took over and I don't know how that was done.

Speaker 13 (02:14:54):
And are we going to overthrow every single nation on
the planet.

Speaker 15 (02:15:00):
Well, it seems like we've been passing.

Speaker 13 (02:15:02):
That has a tyrant in charge. Is it our job
as the American people to destroy countries, overthrow and top
of governments and do nation building weight worldwide? Isn't that
the very definition of the New World Order?

Speaker 15 (02:15:18):
Absolutely not. But I don't like it that foreign countries
are encouraging their people to come up to the United
States and kill our people.

Speaker 13 (02:15:30):
I take offense, but we see that's the propaganda. We know.
I think you're falling prey to the propaganda. Because here's
the thing. If we have strong borders, we have military
on the border, patrolling the border as the border should
be done. If you got your naval defenses in place,

(02:15:52):
you don't need all of that. You don't need regime
changes in other countries, because there is no difference to
what you just described there. There's no difference between that
and what George W. Bush said about the Middle East.
We have to fight him over there so that we
don't face them here at home. That was the Bush doctrine.

(02:16:12):
How is it any different?

Speaker 15 (02:16:14):
And it's exactly the same. Okay, that's that's why they
went into Venezuela. So, but George W. Bush, I think
that whole Afghanistan war that was contrived, That was not
real in terms of political problem, that was not our problem.

(02:16:35):
I think George Bush just used that as an excuse
to get us sober in the Middle East.

Speaker 13 (02:16:42):
Yeah, well, very much the same way that Donald Trump
is using Venezuela to get us to go down there.
And take control of resources and topple governments and basically
make a double standard for all the patriots out there
who were against regime change wars just five minutes ago.

(02:17:05):
That's the way I see it. If we have a
strong nation, strong countries, and we engage diplomatically, not by force,
we can accomplish whatever we want to accomplish. That way,
we don't need to go in and top of governments.
And if they got a problem with that, well we
can isolate them. But you're never going to win other

(02:17:25):
nations over to your side and be able to have
strength diplomatically by bullying them. And that's exactly what's going on.
Let me just play this up. As I said. Trump
has repeatedly said that his war against Venezuela is about
the drugs, and that's been the administration's talking point. Madua

(02:17:49):
supposedly was running drugs into the United States. But Mike
Ben's was on Real America's Voice and he broke down
how the Department of Justice won a Meduro back in
twenty nineteen, and this really puts the lie to the
idea that this is about drugs. The Department of Justice
wanted Maduro back in twenty nineteen, but their case was

(02:18:11):
encumbered by the fact that the CIA was implicated the
CIA was running drugs in Latin America.

Speaker 52 (02:18:18):
Well, we know it caused a problem for the DOJ
because they superseded their indictment in twenty twenty five. The
indictment for drug trafficking against Nicholas Maduro was a twenty
twenty indictment, shortly after the failed Bay of Piglets operation
to capture Maduro the first time in twenty nineteen through
Jordan Goudreau's Silver Corp private mercenary firm. He's now being

(02:18:41):
prosecuted himself, but effectively, what you had was an uncomfortable
history throughout the Cold War in the twentieth century under
substantially Republican leadership. This is bipartisan, but this is what
makes the story difficult. I think for a lot of
conservatives to come to grips with and then we sow

(02:19:02):
it again in Afghanistan during.

Speaker 10 (02:19:04):
The Bush era.

Speaker 52 (02:19:05):
But the narcotics play an important role, just like USA
does in supporting pro American pro democracy so called forces,
insurgent groups, rebel groups, cartels, gangs, militias that are the
enemy of my enemy is my friend, just like we

(02:19:26):
worked with Afghan warlords and used the drug proceeds on
the effectively the Golden Crescent, to fund the Musha Haden
against the Soviets and then to fund various Afghan warlords
against the counter insurgency against the Taliban in Afghanistan. The
same thing played out throughout the entire twentieth century, starting
in the late nineteen fifties throughout South America, centralized around Colombia, Peru, Ecuador,

(02:19:53):
and Venezuela, and in the nineteen nineties. What you're referring
to is the origin point of the so called Cartel
of the Suns, which in the original indictment of Maduro
listed him indicted him as being the head.

Speaker 36 (02:20:04):
Of the Cartel of the Sons.

Speaker 52 (02:20:06):
Thirty two times in that indictment they mentioned Cartel of
the Sons. This was something the ADMIN ran on right
up until the moment they indicted Maduro. The problem is
the Cartel of the Sons was a CIA cartel.

Speaker 24 (02:20:18):
The two.

Speaker 52 (02:20:20):
Brigadier brigade generals in the Venezuelan military that started the
Cartel of the Sons were both on CIA payroll, and
the entire in nineteen ninety three, things came to a
head when the head of the DEA, the head of
the United States Drug Enforcement Agency, resigned in protest after

(02:20:41):
the CIA ran over the DEA and greenlit the deliberate
importation of fifteen hundred kilos of cocaine from Venezuela to
be sold on the streets of Miami to US citizens,
and then the CIA threatened the case officer that he
would be charged to be talking to the press about it.

(02:21:01):
And then the CI worked with the dj DE grant
immunity to the Venezuelan military officials in the nineteen nineties
who were on the Venezuela National Guard Venezuelan military side
of this operation that was all pre Hugo Chavez is
nineteen ninety eight communist socialist turn And the problem is
if you hinge your whole thing on it being a

(02:21:24):
Venezuela thing, you're basically setting up somebody else for our
own deep States crimes.

Speaker 13 (02:21:29):
So this is the same thing that they've been doing
all along, the same thing as CIA is.

Speaker 16 (02:21:34):
Just like.

Speaker 13 (02:21:37):
The guarding of the poppy fields by our soldiers in Afghanistan.
You remember that.

Speaker 15 (02:21:43):
I do vague.

Speaker 13 (02:21:47):
Guarding the poppy fields. The Taliban was in the process
of destroying or the Mujahideen was destroying. They were destroying
the poppies.

Speaker 15 (02:21:57):
Yeah, so maybe that was the real reason we went
in there.

Speaker 13 (02:22:01):
So we don't care. We don't bag, they don't care. Listen,
if the drugs are being run by Meduro or anybody else,
it's you know, if it's coming into the United States,
it's because they want it to come into the United States.

Speaker 15 (02:22:16):
Well, looking at it in another way, what is it.
It's a depopulation program.

Speaker 13 (02:22:22):
Amen.

Speaker 15 (02:22:22):
So if we get in wars all over the world
and you know, our guys get killed there, people get killed,
it's smaller population.

Speaker 13 (02:22:33):
Yeah, I call her. I have a couple more clips.
Just hanging with me, just a moment, and I'll get
to your call. But I think this is important. Was
rense repeat, ladies and gentlemen. And as Mike Benz points out,
they did the same thing to Panamanian dictator Manuel Noriego.

Speaker 52 (02:22:50):
You heard this three part plan laid out for Venezuela.
Step you know, it's going to be stabilization, and then
it's gonna be you know, privatization, and then will be
a transition. Well, stabilization involves hearts and minds work is
what we famously call it, but what it's really hearts
and minds in cash. What involves is paying off a

(02:23:12):
substantial part of what will be the Venezuelan military structure,
civil society, business leaders. And to pay someone off, you
need the cash for it. And in these countries in
South America, as we did in Afghanistan. In Afghanistan, the
CIA handed out seventy million dollars worth of drug money
bribes in order to do this.

Speaker 10 (02:23:32):
By the way, this.

Speaker 52 (02:23:32):
All goes back to this. This has been modeled as
a Noriega style smash and grab Noriega. The trial played
out the same way. It turned out that when we
took Noriega into custody after a military invasion of Panama
and arrested him for narcotics trafficking, it came out that
for thirty one years he had been on cipay roll
because he was useful to the CIA and the US

(02:23:55):
military for the right wing to prop up the governments there.
So I think this case is going to be very
very interesting to follow. But I think what they're going
to do is they're going to look at the points
of evidence, which was I'm sorry to say, but it's
very thinly sourced. These are all very very tangential allegations

(02:24:15):
which basically relate to minor side characters for the most
part in the Venezuelan government and simply saying because he
was the head of state, he must have he must
have blessed this in some direct sense.

Speaker 13 (02:24:27):
Okay, I'm gonna hold it right there for just a
second and switch pots because the pot is apparently dirty.
Let me continue to see if this is any better.
But even these, no, that's even worse. Huh, Okay, we'll
go back. Sorry, folks, it's trying to make things work here.

Speaker 36 (02:24:44):
Many of these are strange.

Speaker 52 (02:24:45):
The indictment list this two thousand and six flight, which
has strange ties to a close associate of Jeb Bush
and understand the Bush family.

Speaker 10 (02:24:54):
George H. W.

Speaker 52 (02:24:55):
Bush was a CI director and played an interesting role
in the BCCI ban development That was the CIA's bank
for narcotics trafficking in the nineteen eighties, which incidentally funneled
thirty five million dollars of cash to a Manuel Noriega.

Speaker 13 (02:25:12):
So there you go. Any thoughts on that so far?

Speaker 15 (02:25:17):
Ah, It's a very tangled web, isn't it. It's like
the government is actually just funding a criminal.

Speaker 13 (02:25:26):
Absolutely, they use the terrorists, they use the drug cartels,
they use the mafia, and then when their usefulness is gone,
hey guess what, it's a color revolution, or hey guess what,
it's a regime change, or you're a war criminal, or
you're guilty of human rights violations. It's also tiring. It's

(02:25:46):
also sick. That's why, you know. Don't get me wrong.
I am no fan of Maduro, but it's a red airing.
It's a red airing. Whoever they put in place to
replace Maduro will be just as bad.

Speaker 15 (02:26:04):
Yeah, what I what I care about. I care about
our young people, people dying on those drugs like Sentinel.

Speaker 13 (02:26:12):
Is interesting.

Speaker 15 (02:26:13):
That's that's what I care about.

Speaker 13 (02:26:15):
Yeah, I care about that too. But that's not what
they care about. That's just the excuse they make to
appeal to decent people like you and and and the
listeners and everybody, you and me and everybody. But the
bottom line is they don't care about that. It's it's
whoever they can use. And I'm not entirely unconvinced either

(02:26:36):
that there's not an element of petrodella warfare involved in
this too. I have some evidence of that which we'll
share in a moment, and also we'll take your calls
as well. Hang with me just another moment, folks, uh,
and we'll get to your calls. Stay with us, ladies
and gentlemen, as we have the break, and we'll be

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All right, we're back. This is Governed America. Final half
hour of the show. Here, I got one more clip
on this Venezuela thing, and then we'll go to the phones.
We know, as we said, I think we demonstrated pretty
well it's not about the drugs, because the CIA has
long been involved in running drugs into our country from
Latin America. It's almost legendary, really, But if it's not

(02:32:02):
about the drugs, what can it be. I was flipping
around the radio dial on Tuesday and I just happened
to catch This is how God works. I just happened
to catch a little day on NPR's morning edition Believe
it or Not, and they had Lisa Swartz on from

(02:32:23):
CNN and they were talking about Venezuela and how they
had to had been what they had been using to
prop up at their economy, and spoiler alert, it wasn't
US dollars. Here's a little snippet from the show this.

Speaker 15 (02:32:39):
Morning edition from NPR News. I'm Leila Falutin and.

Speaker 54 (02:32:43):
I'm stevenskip Good morning. We've heard a lot in recent
days about Venezuela's oil. The country has another resource, gold.
Years ago, CNN reported that the country was increasingly relying
on gold to prop up its economy. CNN International correspondent
Lisa Sarez part of that investigation, and she's on the line.

Speaker 55 (02:33:01):
We went to El Kalao and this is in the
Orinoco Belt and it's traditionally that is the height of
where a lot of the gold has been sourced for many,
many years. So it's that area is not new, but
it's you know, an eldorado has been an eldorado for
Nicholas Nadudo for.

Speaker 2 (02:33:22):
Many many years.

Speaker 55 (02:33:23):
I went to El Kalao. I think it's been ongoing,
you know, the mining industry there since kind of the
early kind of mid nineteenth century.

Speaker 24 (02:33:31):
And that area is neither.

Speaker 55 (02:33:32):
Has substantial gold deposits in part of course of the geology.

Speaker 54 (02:33:37):
And how important has that gold become to the Venezuelan
economy as it has otherwise fallen apart.

Speaker 55 (02:33:44):
Look what we have seen, and you will no doubt
what a reportion of this right Venezuela has. The listeners
will know three hundred billion barrels improven oil reserves, but
they actually only produce less than what a million a day.

Speaker 10 (02:33:59):
And so over the year is with.

Speaker 55 (02:34:00):
The infrastructure and under poor management of Travis and Madudo,
they've relied heavily on gold. And back in twenty eighteen,
Maduro basically announced the gold plans that would allow Venezuela
to profit something like I think the plan was like
five billion dollars annually to try and we said it

(02:34:21):
sold really such a way as to as to sold
strengthen our reserves, bring foreign investors.

Speaker 28 (02:34:27):
But what we have seen, and that's why we.

Speaker 55 (02:34:29):
Were there on the ground, try and follow the money.

Speaker 16 (02:34:31):
How is it?

Speaker 55 (02:34:32):
It's what we keep asking ourselves. How is it that
Nikolas Maduda has been able to stay in power for
so long? And this speaks to that it is a
question of.

Speaker 28 (02:34:43):
The military around him.

Speaker 55 (02:34:44):
And you had mentioned just before the break the Defense
minister as well as the Interior Minister Zara Kavejo Vlada.
They are they are really the tumor, the whole behind
this whole impagrise. You can move ahead, but the tumor
still there. They run this operation via praduity. Is a
military gang. So we've seen the impact that have had

(02:35:05):
on the ground, and they command the entire strauction that
goes all the way to the top.

Speaker 54 (02:35:11):
Let me make sure I understand this. You have a
country with an almost worthless currency. It has a lot
of oil, but not very much really being pumped. Are
you saying that it is gold that the government is
using to pay troops, pay security forces, keep the government
together and maybe collect a little bit for themselves.

Speaker 55 (02:35:27):
Oh, without a doubt, so many many years, that's exactly.

Speaker 31 (02:35:30):
What they've been doing.

Speaker 16 (02:35:31):
It is not just me just as ministry sources.

Speaker 55 (02:35:33):
This is many people in the government have been speaking
to They've been using gold to funnel. The US itself
has said this. You know, they've actually put sanctions on
Venezuelan gold as well, and we have tracked the money.

Speaker 13 (02:35:49):
You know.

Speaker 28 (02:35:49):
I was speaking when I.

Speaker 55 (02:35:50):
Was there to a source of the Venezuelan Central Bank
and he was saying to me that at the end
of April of that year that they had twenty six
tons of gold feed taken out of the bank and
that was packed into private plane and destination by the
way Middle East and Africa. That's roughly just for listening,
it's one point six big in dollars all that getting a.

Speaker 13 (02:36:14):
Sanction there you go, what do you think of that?

Speaker 15 (02:36:17):
Well, that's pretty interesting, I thought. So I was wondering
where all the gold was coming from, because all the
internet programs seem to be offering gold, you know, they're
sponsoring a lot of these internet radio programs. Yeah, so, well, yeah,

(02:36:37):
I was wondering what the source was because it.

Speaker 13 (02:36:41):
Does I think that if you're not using if you're
using gold to prop up your economy, what you're not
using is the US dollar and how many countries have
we went to war with after they announced like Maduro did,
like his bunch did a gold plan quote unquote.

Speaker 15 (02:37:04):
Yeah, wasn't that what momark today was?

Speaker 33 (02:37:07):
It?

Speaker 28 (02:37:08):
Sure was?

Speaker 15 (02:37:09):
Okay?

Speaker 13 (02:37:10):
Absolutely anyway, let me go ahead and go to the phones.
British Columbia. You're on the air, Go ahead, Lace, Yeah,
sorry to bother you again.

Speaker 17 (02:37:19):
That's right, you would be you would be surprised that
a lot of your fentanol down there actually comes from Canada.
That's point number one.

Speaker 13 (02:37:28):
Interesting.

Speaker 17 (02:37:29):
Point number two is, of course you talked to CIA. Well,
right now they're taking control of the streets in the
United States to start this ruckus. That point number three. E. T.
Lawrence was actually murdered, But.

Speaker 7 (02:37:43):
That's for another show.

Speaker 17 (02:37:45):
And now I've got two books I want to give
you the titles. Okay, one is called Man the State
and War, Man the State and War, and the other
one is Theory of International Politics. That Theory of International
Politics by the celebrated international relations guy Kenneth and Waltz

(02:38:06):
from Columbia University. In those two books, you're going to
see what the architecture of war is really like. So, oh,
by the way, I want to tell you the reason
I call into your show, Vicky and Darren is because
you guys have a lot of good substance, the specture
of your show, the way you guys handle yourselves. I

(02:38:26):
appreciate that.

Speaker 13 (02:38:27):
So I appreciate you. Thank you, Thank you. You're very kind,
all right for saying that.

Speaker 17 (02:38:31):
All right, Well, we'll let you go talk to you later.

Speaker 13 (02:38:33):
All right, God bless you, sir. Thank you. All right,
So let me just kind of go to this because
we're talking about motive right now with regard to Venezuela.

Speaker 15 (02:38:45):
Uh huh, and.

Speaker 13 (02:38:46):
We start, I want to circle back. I want to
do the Jensaki on this.

Speaker 15 (02:38:50):
Oh no, all right, we'll let's you do it this
one time.

Speaker 13 (02:38:54):
Only we were talking earlier about the technate. Okay, so
we taught we've established I think pretty conclusively. I don't
know if you would agree with me, because you kind
of took the opposing position on this that it's not
really so much about the drugs, even though they say
it is, but it could be more about the Petro

(02:39:15):
Dolla warfare and even greater than that. There doesn't have
to be any single purpose though, because usually whatever they
do has multiple purposes. Attached to it, so getting them
off of the gold and back on the dollar. And
I think that correlates or dovetails perfectly with establishing the

(02:39:39):
Hemispheric Union, or what it was called by Technocracy Inc.
As the technique. Are you with me so far? Yeah?

Speaker 15 (02:39:50):
I haven't heard anything I disagree with yet.

Speaker 13 (02:39:52):
So okay. So first of all, let's start with a
montage of clips. This is Donald Trump making state recent
statements basically arguing for the annexing of other things in
the hemisphere.

Speaker 39 (02:40:06):
Day I want to talk about the North American.

Speaker 13 (02:40:09):
Technique and Eve, sorry, wrong clip, it's this one.

Speaker 56 (02:40:12):
I intend to resign as party leader, as Prime Minister.

Speaker 13 (02:40:15):
Kevin Trudeau and more specifically, Sorry folks, I'm really not
having a very good moment here, all right.

Speaker 56 (02:40:23):
I intend to resign as party leader as Prime minister
after the party selects its next leader through a robust
nationwide competitive process.

Speaker 18 (02:40:34):
Why are we supporting a country two hundred million plus
a year.

Speaker 2 (02:40:41):
Our military is at their disposed.

Speaker 18 (02:40:43):
Of all these other things the world. The Panama Canal
is a disgrace. What took place at the Panama Canal.
Jimmy Carter gave it to them for one dollar.

Speaker 13 (02:40:51):
Okay, I want to stop it right there. First he
started off talking about Canada should be the fifty first state.
Then we're talking about the Panama Canal. And by the way,
I agree with him on the Panama Canal. I don't
think we want the Chinese to control the Panama Canal. Absolutely,
But taking over the Panama Canal wasn't to do the
United States a service. It was to build the Hemispheric Union.

(02:41:16):
That's the reason for it. That's how they get you anyway, continue.

Speaker 18 (02:41:20):
And they were supposed to treat us well, I thought
it was a terrible thing to do. So the Panama
Canal is under discussion with them right now. So we're
going to be changing the name of the Gulf of
Mexico to the Gulf of America. Well, we need greenland
for national security purposes. I've been told that for a
long time, long before I even ran. I mean, people

(02:41:41):
have been talking about it for a long time.

Speaker 13 (02:41:42):
Okay, with that as background, just kind of putting all
these subjects together. There is a woman on the on
the YouTube's called really Graceful, and she did a very
good video on the technate subject and I want to
I want to play you a little bit of what
she had to say about it.

Speaker 39 (02:42:02):
Today, I want to talk about the North American technique
and even more specifically Elon Musk's granddad, who was a
leader of the technocracy movement in Canada from nineteen thirty
six to nineteen forty one before he left for South Africa.
The technocracy movement became famous when its founders, a group
of scientists and engineers headed by Howard Scott, made an
energy survey of North America under the banner of Columbia University.

(02:42:26):
The Technical Alliance, as it was first called, was basically
documenting how wasteful the current capitalist system was back in
nineteen nineteen. But at this point it's kind of difficult
to kneel down what they meant by the idea of technocracy.
As they moved forward, the group eventually splitting into two.
Even in this book Comparing Socialists and Technocrats, published in

(02:42:46):
nineteen thirty three, Paul Blanchard said that the meeting of
the word technocracy shifts from day to day, but it
can basically be boiled down to this core idea well
into the industrial era. Technocracy's founders believe capitalists and would
fizzle out as machines would soon replace men, and they
set forth to design a society that would succeed capitalism

(02:43:06):
when that collapse inevitably occurred. From these key points, we
can ascertain that the technocracy was clearly anti capitalist and
anti democratic, and it was also anti government, but not
really anti government in a libertarian way. Its original founders
believed in a radical form of social and economic equality,

(02:43:28):
while not identifying with Marxism, and given the context of
the time, science and technology were changing the very fabric
of North American society, and the technocracy believed that only
highly trained experts and scientists were capable of leading a
new North America into greatness. And I reckon that the
hope of greatness and prosperity held a particular appeal during

(02:43:50):
the depths of the Great Depression, when the technocrats of
the nineteen thirties maintained that they would be stewards of
these machines. In this industrial infrastructure is that of the
greedy capitalists, the current masters of those machines. And if
the technocrats were allowed to rule over the natural resources
that North America had to offer, the average workday for

(02:44:12):
an individual would exceed no more than two hours that
was the original pitch at least, But basically our society
would sink or swim based on the technicians, their own
elite class or echelon, being the controllers instead of the
elected politicians. And that's the key idea here, that's the takeaway.
No more elected politicians, just kind of like these self

(02:44:34):
proclaimed experts leading society. While money as an exchange is
at the center of a capitalist system, at the center
of the technocracy is energy in publishing a bunch of
pamphlets and papers. While into the nineteen forties the technocracy
incorporated was really good at seating fear over a crumbling

(02:44:55):
capitalist society wherein the monetary system crumbled and stepp cupping
in as the savior would be energy accounting, or the
means of tracking how much energy was used to produce things,
rather than what we do now, which is measure the
cost the monetary cost of production. In the technocratic society,
energy credits were deducted when you bought something, and the

(02:45:18):
certificates were issued directly to the owner, so they couldn't
be bought, sold, traded, or stolen. Nobody could collect more
than anybody else. So the North American technique is a
concept that came out of the technocracy. That refers to
a blueprint for turning North America into a technocratic society,
combining Canada's minerals and hydroelectric resources with the US's industrial

(02:45:42):
infrastructure and farming strengths. This blueprint includes North and Central America,
the Caribbean, parts of South America, and Greenland that's important
there and Greenland encompassing thirty countries in numerous other territories,
and if it were implemented today, it would become the
world's largest nation. Also, controlling the whole Arctic doesn't hurt

(02:46:05):
for a military advantage in World War Three.

Speaker 13 (02:46:08):
What do you think so far, VICKI.

Speaker 15 (02:46:11):
Yeah, I agree with everything that she said. That technocracy
is a management system that you know, the concept of
managing society as opposed to our political system managing the herd, yes,
managing the hurt. Yeah, you become just an object in

(02:46:33):
their design. And the thing is, you know, with the
energy certificates. I know they've already issued energy certificates. I
found that system on I think it was the Department
of Energy website. It's only they were calling the renewable

(02:46:55):
energy credits or something like that. So they were already
in the process of moving towards a system like that.

Speaker 13 (02:47:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (02:47:07):
Yeah, I have across all my research, I have bits
and pieces on all of that and that I just
don't have it all put together and you know, something coherent.
But that is that is the idea, and that's really
what Howard Lettnik is his goal moving towards. At least

(02:47:36):
that's the impression that I got from him in an
interview that I listened to him, is to establish a
management society, you know.

Speaker 13 (02:47:46):
Yeah. Now, I also learned there's another thing from that
video was interesting to me is that there is a
connection between Elon Musk and Donald Trump that goes back
way far. As you know, he named two of his
companies after Nikola Tesla. Tesla makes the electric cars, and

(02:48:07):
the now defunct Nicola, which made electric trucks. So Elon
Musk held Nicola Tesla in very high regard. But it
just happened that the real Nikola Tesla died, and when
he died, a Trump was sent in by the FBI.
Now listen, listen to this.

Speaker 41 (02:48:28):
Go back to the nineteen forties. The inventor Nikola Tesla
died in nineteen forty three. The FBI was called in
to vet his inventions to make sure there was nothing
dangerous there that could fall into enemy hands, and they
called an MIT electrical engineering professor, a very esteemed one
named John Trump. Now it turns out that that John

(02:48:50):
Trump is in fact the uncle of the President of
the United States. By the way, he found out that
Tesla's inventions, which included a purported death ray, were not
necessarily dangerous to society.

Speaker 13 (02:49:03):
By the way, that is a very controversial conclusion as well,
because that conclusion that John Trump came to is not
without some controversy. As just say that.

Speaker 41 (02:49:18):
But then if you flash forward to today, you've got Tesla,
the automaker named after this inventor, Nikola Tesla. And in
a way, Elon Musk is the intellectual descendant of Nikola Tesla,
a futurist, a polymath, and someone with a million inventions
at his in his mind. And there's more of course,

(02:49:40):
Nikola Tesla. Of course, Tesla named after his last name,
Nicola named after his first name.

Speaker 13 (02:49:48):
So I thought that was interesting.

Speaker 15 (02:49:51):
Yeah, that is, I didn't know that about Trump's uncle,
but that kind of makes sense.

Speaker 28 (02:49:58):
You know.

Speaker 13 (02:50:00):
Just it's really interesting how all these connections just kind
of come together.

Speaker 15 (02:50:06):
But when yeah, well you know what, all of these
people that are geniuses that are inventing all of this
stuff and it all has to do with automation of
various aspects of society, they kind of all com mingle together,

(02:50:27):
you know, so that they are like a oh, I
don't know what you would call it, a species apart from
the normal. And so it wouldn't surprise me if the
technocracy Inc. People carried forward with even an informal organization,

(02:50:57):
you know, with of people who who think along the
technocratic lines.

Speaker 13 (02:51:04):
Well, if somebody were to build a technque and the
whole monetary system is going to be based upon the
energy it takes to produce a product, you're going to
be paying things with a monetary unit based on energy,
where would private property rights come into being? Would there

(02:51:26):
be a role in private property rights for the common people.
I can't have my doubts about that.

Speaker 15 (02:51:33):
That's not clear because they've already moved to a single
transmission grid. That was one of the things that they
were doing, was building the single transmission grid. They haven't
accomplished it quite yet, but I think most of the

(02:51:53):
power companies are tied into the grid, and of course
the the single transmission line is also the smart grid
runs devices. Yea, and so Texas was a holdout, but
I'm not sure if that's still true.

Speaker 7 (02:52:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (02:52:16):
Well, I think our private property rights are going to
be under attack in a major way. And as a
matter of fact, that really goes dovetails perfectly with what's
going on with all these the uprisings of all these
communists everywhere. Hello, Zorah Mamdani and his property tenant advocate.
Her name is I think see a weaver.

Speaker 15 (02:52:39):
Oh yeah, yeah, I've seen her.

Speaker 13 (02:52:40):
Yeah yeah. She recently came right out basically said, you know,
property rights, I think they should be abolished.

Speaker 57 (02:52:47):
I think the reality is is that for centuries we've
really treated property as an individualized good and not a
collective good, and we are going to and transition into
treating it as a collective good and towards a model
of shared equity. I will require that we think about
it differently, and it will mean that family is especially

(02:53:11):
white families, but some pot families who are homeowners as well,
are going to have a different relationship to property than
than than the one that we currently have.

Speaker 15 (02:53:22):
So so brown and black and uh what Chinese they
call them yellow. I'm sure. So they'll all be able
to own property. It's only white people that won't own property.

Speaker 13 (02:53:34):
Apparently, apparently that's what it sounds like. But honestly, I
think this is just a liberal, guilty, left wing race
trader who is spouting off her Marxist bull crap, because honestly,
under communism, nobody has any property rights except the super rich.

(02:53:58):
Nobody has the right. That's the thing is that communism
everybody's poor except the people at the top. Yeah, you know,
But one thing Michelle Tandler on Twitter, she said that
she says a few months ago, I dug into co
A Weaver's Twitter history because she was Mandani's housing advisor.

(02:54:21):
I had a hunt she might end up with a
position on his team. Well she did, and she deleted
her ex account accordingly, but not before Michelle Tandler saved
some of it, So some of the stuff that she
has here from co Weaver. CoA Weaver wrote on July ninth,
twenty eighteen, there is no such thing as a good gentrifier.

(02:54:43):
Only people who are actively working on projects to dismantle
white supremacy and capitalism, and people who aren't. Okay, that's
one thing that she wrote. Then there are some other
tweets that were saved. She says on May ninth, instead
of blaming folks for not having access to a mortgage
in a rich neighborhood and all that comes with that,

(02:55:06):
we could tax the rich, invest in the public good,
stop all evictions, and fund safe, stable public housing for everyone.

Speaker 15 (02:55:14):
Yeah. Great, you know there's others I should say, though,
when when you say white, when we say white, we
mean like skin color. That is not true of them.
I listened to a presentation by a lady who has
really studied all of this, and white is more of

(02:55:37):
a mindset or a belief system. Yeah, there's other things
to be black or brown or whatever, but they would
consider you white.

Speaker 13 (02:55:48):
There's other places where she talked about electing more communists
as well. So anyway, all of this stuff everything we
talked about to be in the show notes. Hey, thank
you ladies and gentlemen for being with us. God bless you, Vicky,
appreciate everything you do. Thanks for what you do, and
join us. Back to your next week, same time, same outlet,
and we'll do it all over again. God bless you
folks and we'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 15 (02:56:10):
Thank you, everybody

Speaker 23 (02:56:16):
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