May 8, 2025 • 46 mins
George Pickens is joining the team, but CeeDee Lamb is still the No. 1 guy. Should Coach Schotty sit down and make that clear to Pickens right from the jump? You bet! Plus, just what does he bring to the team? Was the price too high for what could be a one-year rental? And could this affect the culture the team is trying to build? Regardless, this trade has got people (and us) excited.
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Yeah.
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Speaker 4 (02:55):
Well, welcome to the show boys. Thank you so much
for joining me, allowing me to join you. We got
lots to talk about, specifically George Pickens, who is a
new Dallas cowboy. We traded with the Pittsburgh Steelers for
one wide receiver. George Pickens, you officially have your wide
receiver two or one B That is the question. Nate
(03:17):
first thoughts. Give me your feels on George Pickens.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
I'm loving it.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I for two months wide receiver, wide receiver, wide receiver, right,
Missus Jones said, I'm going to get y'all some people.
I'm gonna be trading. He said that big trade, big trade.
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
I'm puppy breaks over there. He said what he said?
He said, two big trades. Yeah, one is they love it.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I love it, man. That's all I have to say.
We are building a libit quicker than I.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
Thought we would.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
And when it is the last time, and I'm not
belittling the guys before this trade. But when is the
last time, brother Jesse, we got an impact player in
the trade that we can say.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
Wow, Stefani Cooper, Marko, Mari Cooper. I would say, Mary
Cooper like the guy who really turned and moved the needle.
I think Stefan was cool, but he Amari moved the needle.
Amari took you from you know, missus Hearn's you took
you from that. It took you from wide received by
(04:26):
committee to a legiti receiving cores. Yes, for me, I
think I echo with Nate. I. You know, football's fluid,
so you you have all these thoughts and these ideas.
This is one of those trades where the person that
you've got in is it someone that you know, like, hey,
(04:47):
two years ago, we liked his traits in the draft,
we liked them coming out in the drive, but he
can't play right. It's like this is this is one
of the guys like you like this traits, he has
the ability and he's still in his prime, right, that's
the good part of that. He's still playing his best
football right absolutely.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
Now.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
If I'm shoddy, If I'm shoddy, okay, when mister Pickers
gets to town today. I bring him in the office,
I sit him down, I give him a warm shoddy welcome.
I introduce myself. I say my name is Brian Shotten Harmer.
Feel free to call me coach Shoddy, feel free to
(05:28):
call me Shoddy, whichever you prefer. You can't call me
Brian though, when we don't eat beers together. Right, And
I tell the young man man, we're happy to have
you here. We are excited to have you here. We're
looking to change this program and take this thing to
the next level. But I want to make one thing
very very clear, crystal clear clairvoyant. Absolutely Ceedee Lamb's the man.
(05:55):
Ceed Lamb is one told that leave no doubt. Justin
case to ponder your case. I want you to know, hey,
young fellow, we're gonna, we're gonna feature here. We're gonna
get you some rock. We're gonna get you the rock.
We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna do this thing. I
don't want you to under I don't want you to
confuse the order of operation here, Okay, eighty eight, Timothy, Yeah,
(06:18):
eighty eight is the guy. You will be a partner
to him.
Speaker 7 (06:25):
Do you think that's gonna be a problem.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
He's Batman. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, he's Batman.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
And but make it very because what happens is with
that level of a player, and you know, all the
talk is gonna come out about George Pickens and how
he can be a head case. Right they call him
in an NFL y B Right, like, so all the
stuff that, let's let's eliminate some of it. Let's not
let you walk into mini camp and to O t
(06:50):
A's and to training camp and have this assumption that
beat your chest.
Speaker 7 (06:56):
No, no, no, you think he's got that at some you
think that's gonna be a problem.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
We're eliminating. We're eliminating it. We are not leaving any
room for Era.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
But this is a guy who has had problems with
coaching staffs before in that he obviously wants a bigger role.
He obviously wanted that Pittsburgh. However, if you're telling him
you were not ceedee lamb, we have that guy. Yeah,
and if you were that guy, you wouldn't have been traded.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Correct. Correct, correct.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
So you're now in a situation where you're in a
contract year. You need to go out and earn that contract,
whether it's here, whether it's somewhere else. But you got
to prove that you can work on a team at
that capacity and be the wide receiver one in the
case that you're being asked to be wide receiver two
in this case.
Speaker 8 (07:37):
Right.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
I want you to prepare well. I want you to
show up on time. I want you to be a
great teammate. But at no point in time do I
ever want you to confuse the fact that there is
an there, there is an alphabet. You could be an
Alpha two. But he's our guy. He's the guy that
who we drafted. He's the guy who's been here the longest.
He is the perennial Pro bowler. He is the top
(07:59):
three four I receive in the National Football League. He's
the dude. And he's got those two eights right there.
There's a reason why he wears those eightes.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
He's the guy.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Okay, he's the dude we pay thirty million dollars to. Okay,
stick with him, Yeah, learn from him. But I want
you to understand from day one, there's no need for
you to be throwing a Tampa tantrum on the sideline.
There's no need for you do this is the guy.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
This is the step This is the step where a
lot of receivers go. This could be a step to
launch you into the into a perfect role that gets
you paid. This can be the step where every year
you on a different team.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Yeah, Kirk, Do we need some of that?
Speaker 6 (08:43):
Though?
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Do we need some of that attitude on the sidline?
Should Jesse be wearing black air Force ones as opposed
to the white airports.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Today with no black white socks with white air Force ones.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
White socks at white air Force. That's how we do it. Yeah,
are you gonna get a shisty Kirk? What shisty the
ski mask?
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Kurt? Don't he got five kids, He don't cover nothing.
Do we need that attitude?
Speaker 7 (09:09):
It depends on how it's directed. I guess it doesn't
sound it sounds like he's been a good teammate. He
hasn't been good with the media, and he's had his
issues on the field. I think yes, having some of
the attitude is good, depending on how it's used.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
That The thing, I'm just so excited man, that for
once we can say good move.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Yes, we can say good move.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
And and the first thing I thought was what everybody
thought that followed the stillers at any time? Wow, what
is he gonna say? And I'm like, nah, I forget
what is he gonna say? Because that talk you're talking
about because everybody credits coach Shottenheimer with he is a
he is a guy that can relate to these players.
(09:55):
So I'm thinking he had that conversation kind of.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
Like like but can't relate to this kind of plan.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
But know the thing about it is, I don't think
that he gave him, uh, you're coach in North Carolina speech.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
That's so, and that's where I was going to go.
I was like, I was, I was hesitant to go there,
but I'm like, you have to have the Bill Belichick speech.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
Yeah, and Bill Belichick.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
You can ask anybody. I can sit here as a
personal experience, there is no sugar coating when you come in.
When I went to New England and they signed me,
I sat down across from Bill Belichick. He told me
exactly what he wanted from me. I need you to
do A, B and C. And he's looked at me
and said do you think you can do that? He said,
I don't. I'm not asking you do anything else. These
(10:39):
three things I need you to do. If you can
do those things, that you'll be a part of this
football team if you can't literally look at me. Mind,
if you can't, you won't And I said I can't,
and he said see you in the morning, like that's
the and that's that's not just.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
Me that.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
Straightforward with him.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
You know, I think when you're dealing with the player
who has the ability to be combustible, right, I don't
want to leave anything misunderstood if I tell and honest.
And for those who have not been to the locker
room or or or dealt with these type of men,
(11:19):
and it's not everybody, but a lot of them, a
lot of them will prefer you just be honest with me.
Don't give me to Jason Garrett. I wish I had
fifty three of you, Jesse, but the one you got
you cut because I'd rather you tell me whether you
just don't cut it, you ain't got it no more.
I can take that. Then you're telling me that I
(11:41):
respect you, telling me, hey, you just don't fit here anymore.
Bro Like you ain't fast enough, you ain't tall enough.
You won't tell me that that I go. You know what, man,
I appreciate you. I appreciate what if for earnestness. Then yes,
what it is?
Speaker 7 (11:57):
It's something? Well one, do you think Shotty will do that?
In two? What if it was Dak that did that?
Speaker 9 (12:04):
No?
Speaker 6 (12:05):
No, no, no, no no no, why no? Why no? Dak?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
It has to have a different relationship with him as
a quarterback. Troy had a different one with me. He
gonna have a different one with Troy. With with Jesse?
Speaker 6 (12:20):
What is wrong to Jesse?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
I know you gee dimension, Yeah, a quarterback. It's only
a few quarterbacks that can come at you like that,
you know, But I don't think our quarterback is that guy.
And I think Jesse probably can tell you a little more.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
I also say this, Dak is the piece keeper.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
Yes he is.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
If you're playing, if you're a parent and you're playing
good cop, backhop that's a good cop. He's like, hey, man, no,
you gonna be all right, man, come on, just that
positive positive. But when you date based, when you deal
with there are levels to who gets dealt by who,
Who who deals with who? Not who's getting dealt with,
(13:17):
but who's the CD Micah Dak those people A lot
of times it even goes above the head coach. They
get they get their their line, they're chaining the command
comes sometimes even above that dude, then it's the next
tier guy. And that has to come from Shaddy if
(13:39):
I am going to take the range of this football
team and truly and fully have control over it. And
and because what happens is the locker room starts looking
around and going, man, you ain't you that We don't
believe that, we don't believe you you need more people,
we believe, we're not believing that your actually gonna do
(14:00):
what you said you're gonna do, because we're seeing how
you're treated, how you're doing this. There was that now
out Jimmy Johnson fantasy said it. Everyone gets traded fairly,
but everyone gets treated the same. But a coach has
to be the one that is able to come in
and step in and to have the authoritative hand over
the locker room and and and and especially with those
guys who are second tier and below. He has to
(14:23):
be able to come in and have that conversation with
Pickens and others in that in that realm of here's where,
here's where we're gonna be at my boy.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Well, to be fair, for all intents and purposes, everything
we've heard about Brian Schottenheimer has been that, Yes, has
been the guy that's going to take the lead and
make the final decision when he needs to her when
he does need to take over. You don't have Tyler
Brooker on this team without Brian Schottenheimer in that moment
saying like, what are we doing?
Speaker 5 (14:47):
This is the guy and that's fine. That's fine in
the off season. Yeah, that's fine in the office.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
And it's fine when you've got guys like Dak or
right Booker, you know, guys that are you know, they're
toning the line or whatever. You bring a guy, how's
he gonna handle when he's got a guy like Pickings
who comes in with some baggage.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
That's the thing. Adversity shows you who you really are
when things ain't going so right. Are you going to
be that same person in that situation to that point?
Speaker 7 (15:16):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (15:16):
Go ahead. And another thing is.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
If he has Dak Parsons, Booker, Tyler Smith rolling with him,
he's not is a non.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
Factor because if he blow up.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Let's say, Josh, the new guy, you come in here
and blow up and us three looking at you like
Jess to stop, You're like, oh no, we don't start. Yeah,
let's start over here. It's the same over that, bro.
Speaker 7 (15:47):
Yeah, could that be a part of pickings problem? In
Pittsburgh had no quarterback? No, I mean either, Yeah, you
had they have good leadership on the defense, but their
offense really didn't have anybody that could step up and
maybe keep guys sort of.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
Brother, you got to prove to this man you are
who you say you are.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
And none of those quarterbacks, even Russ later in his career,
was not that guy we saw in Seattle.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
So we don't know what.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
The issue is. But here's his second chance. Here is
his second chance. Like I said, you need to be
second chance to a greater situation or second chance. Well, man,
Pickings get what. We gave a third for him, but
he playing for such and session.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Now right, all right, boys, we need to take our
first break.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
When we come back, I want to talk more about
George Pickens the football player. I want to talk about
his assets on the field, less so much about the baggage.
But when we come back, we will talk about that.
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It's all good, but letting him.
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An Well, the thing about it, man, I'm moving one
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what blew it.
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You're literally moving one hundred miles an hour.
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A yeah, loving it.
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You have to know you gotta know your brother, right, Yeah,
of course I know. Him not responding to me wasn't
a personal thing, not a this I know literally in
my head when he didn't respond, I said to myself,
where in the world is Carmen san Diego? I know?
I know, like, because Nate's usually good if if he don't,
now Nate may not text you back, he gonna call
(20:32):
you back. Yea, yeah, I call you back after you
send him a text. So you sent him. I sent
him a voice note, so I kind of like try
to cheek like I send him a text, he might
not touch it back. But if I sent him a
voice note, I know that he heard it. Yeah, and
he didn't respond. I was like, oh, he's definitely somewhere
like in between here and Chattanooga. I said, how many
miles did you drive.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
Between two vehicles?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Man? If I'm if I can keep my GPS only
keep me in line.
Speaker 6 (20:58):
I probably do about thirty this off season and.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
An off season. O boy, uh car, least hate to
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Speaker 6 (21:17):
Come on, I do that round with Dallas.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
All right, boys, we need to talk more about George Pickens,
the player, the man on the field, Jesse obviously, as
a wide receiver yourself for former ore I don't know
how you what's the best term to say, former wide receiver?
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Now, once you are, you are who you are for life.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
You are who you are wide receiver, as a wide
receiver yourself. How do you see George Pickens adding to
this current team that we have first and foremost.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
When he breaks the huddle, defensive has to go. Is
he winning number fourteen? We don't know yet. Trying to
figure it out. Marku's bell, Paul for a second, get
your money, Mark, listen to uncle Jesse. Okay, George, got money.
This is your opportunity right now. If you decide to
give up twenty fourteen, the price should start at twenty
(22:03):
five k.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
That's it.
Speaker 7 (22:05):
That's it, Yeah, to.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Start start, start negotiations, begin, start at twenty five k.
See how see how interesting he really is about this number.
But in your mind, twenty five k should be your
starting point. You know what I mean? Now, would you
do it for a pair of shoes? Non? None, No
pair unless you're give me like the original cakes, unless
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you give me like the very easy ones. And okay,
let's you give me like the eminem four something I
can not know that's gonna bring back seventy five one
hundred K value. Then yeah, but I don't think George
Picking got those in his possession, so we don't know.
Don't take it, don't take the vacation telling you one
hard cold cash in a Duffel bag, like like Ricky
Roll from Blue from Blue Chips, he just had leave
(22:48):
the Duffel bag and the tractor. That's how you want it.
Speaker 6 (22:51):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
On the field, first things first. Now, when you break
the huddle, defenses do one of two things. Let me
the guy there's eighty eight and it used to be
we're only gonna focus on him. That's it. Now it's done.
Game plan. Game plan is done. Well, we'll take our
chances with whoever's on the other side. Yep. If they
(23:13):
beat us, we tip our cap.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
And we go.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Who's that tober? Okay, well, good job. Now that defense
can't shift, that safety can't be going over there so fast.
You now have to game plan differently for the Cowboys.
What does that do for you? Opens up other passing lags,
Jake Ferguson, you need to have a comeback here.
Speaker 6 (23:34):
Right, Yes, sir, Yes, sir.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
Safety is gonna be occupied on the outside, they're gonna
be look at some other things. You gotta eat. Running
lanes come open, whether that's Javante or Sanders or Blue
or whoever the running back at that particular time. And
then when you add the component of his playmaking ability,
he's not a polished route runner. He's not a guy
(23:57):
who's gonna give you the route tree. But that's the
joy of having CD Lamb. You don't need him to.
It's a bonus if he does, but you don't need
him to. You talk about the catch radius. One of
the problems that the Cowboys had last year was one
they didn't create separation, and then two they didn't have
a player that can consistently catch the ball opposite of
(24:19):
Ceedee Lamb in tight window throws. You've now had an
answer to that question. George Pickens is a guy. When
I play with a guy named chad O Chosinko, and
he's always saying I'm seven to eleven, I'm always open.
You gotta just throw it to the right place. George
Pickens gives you that ability where he eliminates even sometimes
(24:41):
you're wrongdoing.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
Yeah, he's a bad ball catcher.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Yes, the way he's able to find the ball in
the air, his tracking.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
Skills is like insane. I compare some of his tracking
skills to guys like Larry Fitzgerald, guys like Julio Jones
des Bryant, just when the ball is in the air,
their ability to track it and no matter what's happening
around them, defender hanging on them, pushing them, pulling them,
tackling them, whatever it is, safety bearing down on them.
(25:09):
My eyes does not leave the ball and I have
the ability to catch it and bring it down. So
you've given yourself now from the wide receive position, someone
who the defense most definitely has to respect and at
any given time, he is a twenty plus yard threat
catch waiting to happen. Let the league last year keep
their bus yards. Yeah, and that's what you want. Sometimes
(25:31):
you just want even if you don't go to him,
you want the threat of he's taking the top off
that defense has to lift and now I have the
ability to do some other things. And then you keep
the mind us by saying we call it TBT to
a mother. Show you pat that thing two times and
you let one fly down the old old GP and
see what he can do with it. That's pretty good
(25:52):
with that, isn't he.
Speaker 7 (25:53):
He's one of your favorites. And I'm seeing you've talked
about him before pickings. As far as what he does.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
Yeah, like just tracking ball, he's one of the best.
He's one of the best in the league. When it
comes to tracking the football, he's one of the best.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
And that's also not to say he's not a dog either,
because when he does have the ball, Like my favorite
comparison was Nick Harris earlier on the break I think
it was yesterday, compared him to a gen Z des Bryant.
That's kind of what you get out of him when
he has the ball in his hands. The ability to
make plays when plays look broken, when a safety is
coming down is going to demolish you.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
You could give.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Him a chance at that. Yeah, absolutely, because he's a maller.
I mean, he's a Georgia bulldog.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Okay, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (26:36):
He's getting a lot of pub for his yards per
catch or whatever, the best in the league. He's so big,
what's his threat going to be in the red zone?
If this has been a struggle for the Cowboys for
a while, finding that guy that can go and get
it in the red zone.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
It's that very things. He's always open like you give
him a chance. I had the pleasure of playing with
a young in his prime, deser It didn't matter when
we got to the red zone.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
You knew.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
You knew, your mama, knew, your daddy, knew, your aunt
with the crooked wig, knew, your uncle who got a
drinking problem, knew everybody knew that if you got four
downs in the red zone, one of those was gonna
be a jump ball des Bryant and the likelihood of
him coming down with the ball for a touchdown very high.
What you get with George Piketts, it doesn't matter what
you say or what you do.
Speaker 6 (27:26):
You know it.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
I know it. Eighty one hundred thousand know it. Millions
watching at home know it. Whatever number he's wearing, let's
just say fourteen for the time being. Fourteen will get
a shot down here in the red zone. He getting
a shot And if he doesn't. That's malpracticed by the coach.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Do you guys feel worried at all about re signing him?
Speaker 6 (27:45):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (27:46):
Yeah, no is that seen worth of one year rental
if that's the.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
Case, yes, because you gotta be in the game to
win it. You don't win it if you ain't.
Speaker 6 (27:57):
In the game.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
Sports, in the game. It's in the games in.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
The So you're saying he's he can be the guy
that puts him over the top.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
Well, now you got a little too much dipping your chip.
This is what I'm saying. You gotta play twice. What
I'm saying. Sometimes you sometimes my boy and you my man,
you know you, but sometimes sometimes the chip that you
dip into the guad and just be a little heavy.
Speaker 7 (28:22):
We're not Are you contending with the Eagles now?
Speaker 5 (28:25):
No? No, not yet. You still got some holes.
Speaker 6 (28:29):
Yes this season that's what I'm.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
I think you continued with the Commanders, but you're still
who's playing corner.
Speaker 7 (28:36):
Corners?
Speaker 6 (28:37):
You don't.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
You don't know who's it's a question mark. Now it's
still a question mark.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
You. You've got to let the season play. You got.
The thing is what I love about this.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Kid is we know who he is he's not a
draft pick that we said, Okay, let's just see and
then we go to training camp talking about how great
he is against an eighth corner.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
We know who this kid is.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Now can they get enough reps before the season starts
so him and CD can work? And now we find
out who our third receive is. Is it Ferguson? Is
it a specialist punt return specialist? You're gonna find out
who I guy is.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Well.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Now the question isn't no longer a player like Mingo
or Tobert where it's like, can this person step up?
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Jonathan Mingo?
Speaker 6 (29:23):
I'm sorry for who is you talking about? But let
me I'm an jump ahead. I'm gonna jump ahead.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
Let me get to my point.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
No, no, no, I'm gonna jump ahead.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
Okay, okay, all right.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
The question is people, is it enough balls?
Speaker 2 (29:39):
And these guys out there is yeah, yeah, like you said,
you know, give out some rocks when you say, know
the rock here? So we change every now and then. Now,
this is what I've been praying for for a lot
of years. When people say is it enough balls to
be passed around? We don't have to throw to this
guy you named. We don't have throw to Turpin, throw
(30:02):
all the balls to these two guys. You see, Jesse
me and you can relate to this. You know, when
they start talking about who is the best office in Lineman,
I gotta understand they gonna talk.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
About it, Larry. You know what I'm saying, Oh yeah,
I don't forget about Nate.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Okay, do that these two guys should have seventy percent
of your footballs thrown in them. That that's the bottom line,
and that when guys you're talking about they better play
special teams, they better be good.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
I'm just I'm saying the question is no longer. Are
these guys going to step up because you finally have
that quick question figure.
Speaker 6 (30:41):
Oh, they gonna step up. I promise you that they
have to. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
I like to you posted this morning. Who was yeah
yeah from Belly Yeah yeah yeah. They didn't like that
classic Yeah what did you No? I just I just
talked about now like you know, uh, you know cowboy nations,
like oh we finally got a real number two and
now in the terminal, yeah, then go in the back.
They're all looking around like, yeah, oh we Yeah. I
(31:05):
don't like that. I don't like that. But this is
this is the business. This is another indication for those
who sometimes don't realize because Tooper's had it on Easy Street,
Yes he has. Turper's had it on Easy Street, Yes
he has floor no Easy Street. You come in here
and you're thinking like, well, I'm good. Ain't nobody really
I don't. I'm not gonna I don't have to ascend
(31:26):
to this level. The numbers don't really move in in
a favor where I should be nervous. And then you
add a dog into the mix, and all of a sudden,
now you start looking around. You start you start counting
the room. Yeah, you start counting. You start counting that roster.
You start saying, over for a second, now, how many
quarterbacks we keep in? Okay, how many running backs we got?
(31:46):
Thirty seven thousand offensive linemen? Don't know how they' gonna
keep there? How many times you starts saying, are we
gonna keep four receivers or five receivers or six receivers?
Now you start doing the math, you say, okay, well,
see the's him. We know, we know, we know he could.
They just they just brought George Pickings, so he at
least good to start play some games. Okay, they paid
turping some money the last the last all season so.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
To.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
But they're just painting as part of turning right. But
these guys now have to start. They start looking around
and start saying. They start doing the math and they
figure going a A uh a, mama, hold off on
getting that second house. Uh, you know what, we we
ain't getting that car right now. You know you gotta
tell you, you gotta tell your girl, you know what, Take
take take that burke, take that burking back, take that
(32:33):
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We gotta just hold off to this the season.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Uh uh big special Teams guy, what is his name?
Speaker 5 (32:42):
Good one?
Speaker 6 (32:43):
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Speaker 4 (35:54):
I did know this. I didn't know this. I'm a
frequent listener to the show.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
I'm actually same Monoma even. I like to want to
be even. I don't have to have zero, but they
got to be a two or four, six, eight? Uh,
you know, can't be a one of five or three.
I hate that.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
I got to do it.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
I just gotta super No, No, I'm not super sitios.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
You wanted to be right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (36:17):
I wouldn't be right.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Hey, So you you went with us last week and
I ain't trying to find out what you was doing.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
But next time you decided to leave, leave us some.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
Power up points.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
So we don't you know, we know we wing it
a lot, but we don't want Shannon putting on that
were winging it.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Wait a second, Wait a second. We want to talk
about where you were last week.
Speaker 7 (36:34):
No, don't.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
You didn't give it. I don't want it.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
He didn't give it. He didn't give it.
Speaker 7 (36:39):
I was on the beach.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
Drinks. Oh you're back.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
What beach was that?
Speaker 7 (36:45):
So you you are far away.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
You're a couple of courts low.
Speaker 7 (36:52):
I wasn't too worried about your bro.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
My boy said, do not disturb.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
Bro almost said something.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
Come on, the room is rocking, don't come knock it. Yeah, boy,
my boy, two punks my time.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Like the old man once told me, say it. Don't
hurt me when you put yours to the door and
see if you're here and to know it.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
Unless is your mama on the side, listen to your mama.
Get away from that door.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Now, you said something in the first segment I kind
of want to go back to. I want to I
want to go back to this comment. You said, this
is the first trade or this is the first move
and free agency that you feel really good about?
Speaker 5 (37:44):
Was that fair to say?
Speaker 6 (37:45):
Yes, Sheriff, it's been a wow.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
I mean, we had a good corner that we got
one time, and then we got Amari and I'm trying
to put it together.
Speaker 6 (37:56):
Who have we had? Uh? That the door just opened?
Speaker 5 (38:02):
Man?
Speaker 2 (38:03):
We cried for two three months, how we needed a
wide receiver. Yes, we got better than any Ain't nobody
in the draft equal to this kid.
Speaker 6 (38:13):
No one in right here, right now, right now.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
So we got Yes, we got better.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
So I'm excited. I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Forget all of what you think he is when he
opened his mouth. We know what he is when he
hit the field.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
So I'm excited.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
But do you feel better about the off season that
we've had free agency wise now after this trade? Yes, sir,
but you weren't feeling good about it before.
Speaker 6 (38:35):
I didn't even. I didn't even I'm the only one.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
I gave an a plus for the Drafty hold your tap, Okay,
I'm a tap. I didn't say I gave an a plus
for training camp. I gave it a plus for the draft,
So I was good. I was got to think where
everybody we drafted. It's going to be an integral part
over time. But to go out and get an instant
impact when the last time we've done that fellas to
get an instant impact.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
I thought it's the fund Gilmore. I think that that
trade there, I think that kind of gave you a
boost going into that offseason. It obviously wasn't the same.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Hope Stephanie Gilmour was a stabilizer. This dude gives you hope. Yeah, yeah, man, but.
Speaker 7 (39:16):
You still don't think they're ready to take the division?
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no, no, ensure.
Speaker 7 (39:24):
It's okay, this is my question, and I love the trade.
I'm glad they didn't. They needed to do it. But
if you know you're not gonna win the division, if
you think there were.
Speaker 5 (39:34):
You don't know.
Speaker 7 (39:34):
If he doesn't take you over the top, have you
given up? You give up a third and a fifth
for a guy that you're gonna rent for a year.
Speaker 5 (39:41):
The answer won't like this is one of those things
where our answer won't come until January. That's right in February, right,
because who life is funny? Okay, A month ago, a
couple of weeks ago, there was the whole thing with
Jerry Jones saying, I don't know you know who the
(40:03):
agent is? I don't agent is? You gotta know it now?
Speaker 7 (40:09):
Know now for sure?
Speaker 5 (40:10):
You know it now because of those who don't know
Pickings agents is David Malu getto who Jerry knows knows
because he's getting ready to give he's being ready to
sign off on the contract that gives Michael Parsons, who's
also one of them Monoghella's clients. But it's it's it's
it's just funny how how how it comes around. But
this is one of those things where we won't have
(40:31):
an answer until February of how this whole thing goes.
George may get here and and Brian Shott Hammer. Hammer
may have created such a great culture and a great
room that he wants to be here. He may fall
in love with Dak and love play against cde Lamb.
Do you remember Pittsburgh has good culture? George Pickens, I'm
(40:54):
gonna say, in his football playing.
Speaker 11 (40:57):
Life, his life, college, high school life, Yes, twenty four
years on this earth, his life has never played with
a better quarterback, and they're gonna pay with this year.
Speaker 5 (41:12):
Oh that's true. In his life. Fact, George Pickens in
his let me make sure, because in his football playing life,
he's not gonna play with the better opposite wide receiver
than the one he's playing with. Now, oh yeah, that's
fair in his life and his football playing life. So
if he gets here and and he's enjoying the fact
(41:35):
that I can play a brand of football where one
I'm not having to be beat double on triple coverage,
I'm not having to catch hospital balls because the quarterback
can't throw. We're not on time, they don't know what
they're doing. He rather run first, he's washed, he's trash,
(41:55):
whatever it may be. He may enjoy it. Now I
know that he wants to get paid and it may
be able to come to a resolution that works. We
won't know that until then. He may get here and
suck and they may look at the end of the
year go bah we we we gambled. It didn't work. No,
(42:16):
I'm just saying like that, like the question. The answer
to the to the to Kurt's question is we won't know. No,
it's but like I said earlier, he gives you a
chance to be in the game, you hope, and that's
all you can ask for you want good players to
go against other good players, because when you look at
(42:37):
Philadelphia and you look at Washington, once you had prior
to what's today Tuesday wasn't going to cut it against
those teams.
Speaker 6 (42:48):
It just wasn't.
Speaker 5 (42:50):
It wasn't gonna cut it in the NFC, It wasn't
gonna cut it against the AFC. You've got, you've taken
a big step to now putting the guy out there
when you get into those tight moments. I'm not throwing it.
This is not a shot. I know it brown, but
I ain't throwing it to know it brown for the
(43:10):
bounce office chest and to go into an interception. I'm
not throwing it to a guy who October, who may
drop it or not run the wrong route, or maybe
looking in at the ball and still be standing off sides. Now,
George Pickens might get a fifty yard penny because he
punts somebody in the face that might happen comes to
the territory, But he also might get a fifty yard
bomb that sealesn't win the game for you.
Speaker 6 (43:30):
This is the issue.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Great question, great answer, But you can't tell me that
you saw dan Quinn way he finished the season.
Speaker 6 (43:42):
Everybody what man way to commanders.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
We was even though we I didn't feel it was
gonna have a great year last year, we would still
had the Commanders below the Cowboys are even it was
Philadelphia Cowboys slash Commanders, did they We don't know what
one player, one coach, several players can do to elevate
(44:06):
a team.
Speaker 6 (44:06):
So I'm with you one hundred percent. Let's wait and see.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Starting with coach Shottenheimer, please hook into doing training, doing
training camp, these practice the Chargers once and the Rams.
Speaker 6 (44:20):
We'll start finding out real quick.
Speaker 4 (44:22):
I mean we're talking a bit on talking Cowboys too.
It's the fact that, like dan Quid did that in
his first year as head coach for the Sanders, Grenady
had a head coaching experience before. But is your expectation
now different with brand new rookie head coach basically coaching
your team, but now that you have these pieces in place,
you're not competing necessarily yet against the.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Fun I'm just excited. I'm just excited that we are
making the right moves. They have not made a bad
move yet. We are making the right move. Like when
they got that kid during the middle of the season
with a fourth round pick.
Speaker 6 (45:03):
You know, in hindsight is fifty fifty. Boy, we just
waited and boy, we could.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Say, you know what, we give you a fourth and
we'll give you you know, fifth next year.
Speaker 6 (45:11):
You know, we may have to give about third. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (45:13):
Yeah, come on, could have been different. All right, boys,
we gotta get out of here. Thank you so much
for why we gotta go. It's forty five.
Speaker 6 (45:21):
He's coming out of here.
Speaker 5 (45:23):
Fesshman, He's gonna realize that we don't we don't get on.
Speaker 6 (45:25):
We don't.
Speaker 5 (45:25):
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you guys, we do what we we death bro Yeah
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The prison got knocked out, man, you're Davante, the producer.
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Were just joking. He closes out.
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Yeah, yeah, that's all good. That's forgot to get the Yeah,
I got you, Kurt.
Speaker 6 (02:37):
Here we go.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
I'm working on my snap count.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
We're good.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
We're good.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
We're good. This is temporary.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Uh, Shannon will be back, I promise, But just today
we're covering. Yeah, we're holding it down for Shannon while
he's out doing his thing.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
But perfect practice makes perfect exactly.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Well, welcome to the show boys. Thank you so much
for joining me, allowing me to join you. We got
lots to talk about, specifically George Pickens, who is a
new Dallas cowboy. We traded with the Pittsburgh Steelers for
one wide receiver. George Pickens, you officially have your wide
receiver two or one B That is the question. Nate
(03:17):
first thoughts. Give me your feels on George Pickens.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
I'm loving it.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I for two months wide receiver, wide receiver, wide receiver, right,
Missus Jones said, I'm going to get y'all some people.
I'm gonna be trading. He said that big trade, big trade.
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
I'm puppy breaks over there. He said what he said?
He said, two big trades. Yeah, one is they love it.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I love it, man. That's all I have to say.
We are building a libit quicker than I.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
Thought we would.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
And when it is the last time, and I'm not
belittling the guys before this trade. But when is the
last time, brother Jesse, we got an impact player in
the trade that we can say.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
Wow, Stefani Cooper, Marko, Mari Cooper. I would say, Mary
Cooper like the guy who really turned and moved the needle.
I think Stefan was cool, but he Amari moved the needle.
Amari took you from you know, missus Hearn's you took
you from that. It took you from wide received by
(04:26):
committee to a legiti receiving cores. Yes, for me, I
think I echo with Nate. I. You know, football's fluid,
so you you have all these thoughts and these ideas.
This is one of those trades where the person that
you've got in is it someone that you know, like, hey,
(04:47):
two years ago, we liked his traits in the draft,
we liked them coming out in the drive, but he
can't play right. It's like this is this is one
of the guys like you like this traits, he has
the ability and he's still in his prime, right, that's
the good part of that. He's still playing his best
football right absolutely.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
Now.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
If I'm shoddy, If I'm shoddy, okay, when mister Pickers
gets to town today. I bring him in the office,
I sit him down, I give him a warm shoddy welcome.
I introduce myself. I say my name is Brian Shotten Harmer.
Feel free to call me coach Shoddy, feel free to
(05:28):
call me Shoddy, whichever you prefer. You can't call me
Brian though, when we don't eat beers together. Right, And
I tell the young man man, we're happy to have
you here. We are excited to have you here. We're
looking to change this program and take this thing to
the next level. But I want to make one thing
very very clear, crystal clear clairvoyant. Absolutely Ceedee Lamb's the man.
(05:55):
Ceed Lamb is one told that leave no doubt. Justin
case to ponder your case. I want you to know, hey,
young fellow, we're gonna, we're gonna feature here. We're gonna
get you some rock. We're gonna get you the rock.
We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna do this thing. I
don't want you to under I don't want you to
confuse the order of operation here, Okay, eighty eight, Timothy, Yeah,
(06:18):
eighty eight is the guy. You will be a partner
to him.
Speaker 7 (06:25):
Do you think that's gonna be a problem.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
He's Batman. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, he's Batman.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
And but make it very because what happens is with
that level of a player, and you know, all the
talk is gonna come out about George Pickens and how
he can be a head case. Right they call him
in an NFL y B Right, like, so all the
stuff that, let's let's eliminate some of it. Let's not
let you walk into mini camp and to O t
(06:50):
A's and to training camp and have this assumption that
beat your chest.
Speaker 7 (06:56):
No, no, no, you think he's got that at some you
think that's gonna be a problem.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
We're eliminating. We're eliminating it. We are not leaving any
room for Era.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
But this is a guy who has had problems with
coaching staffs before in that he obviously wants a bigger role.
He obviously wanted that Pittsburgh. However, if you're telling him
you were not ceedee lamb, we have that guy. Yeah,
and if you were that guy, you wouldn't have been traded.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Correct. Correct, correct.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
So you're now in a situation where you're in a
contract year. You need to go out and earn that contract,
whether it's here, whether it's somewhere else. But you got
to prove that you can work on a team at
that capacity and be the wide receiver one in the
case that you're being asked to be wide receiver two
in this case.
Speaker 8 (07:37):
Right.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
I want you to prepare well. I want you to
show up on time. I want you to be a
great teammate. But at no point in time do I
ever want you to confuse the fact that there is
an there, there is an alphabet. You could be an
Alpha two. But he's our guy. He's the guy that
who we drafted. He's the guy who's been here the longest.
He is the perennial Pro bowler. He is the top
(07:59):
three four I receive in the National Football League. He's
the dude. And he's got those two eights right there.
There's a reason why he wears those eightes.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
He's the guy.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Okay, he's the dude we pay thirty million dollars to. Okay,
stick with him, Yeah, learn from him. But I want
you to understand from day one, there's no need for
you to be throwing a Tampa tantrum on the sideline.
There's no need for you do this is the guy.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
This is the step This is the step where a
lot of receivers go. This could be a step to
launch you into the into a perfect role that gets
you paid. This can be the step where every year
you on a different team.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Yeah, Kirk, Do we need some of that?
Speaker 6 (08:43):
Though?
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Do we need some of that attitude on the sidline?
Should Jesse be wearing black air Force ones as opposed
to the white airports.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Today with no black white socks with white air Force ones.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
White socks at white air Force. That's how we do it. Yeah,
are you gonna get a shisty Kirk? What shisty the
ski mask?
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Kurt? Don't he got five kids, He don't cover nothing.
Do we need that attitude?
Speaker 7 (09:09):
It depends on how it's directed. I guess it doesn't
sound it sounds like he's been a good teammate. He
hasn't been good with the media, and he's had his
issues on the field. I think yes, having some of
the attitude is good, depending on how it's used.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
That The thing, I'm just so excited man, that for
once we can say good move.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Yes, we can say good move.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
And and the first thing I thought was what everybody
thought that followed the stillers at any time? Wow, what
is he gonna say? And I'm like, nah, I forget
what is he gonna say? Because that talk you're talking
about because everybody credits coach Shottenheimer with he is a
he is a guy that can relate to these players.
(09:55):
So I'm thinking he had that conversation kind of.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
Like like but can't relate to this kind of plan.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
But know the thing about it is, I don't think
that he gave him, uh, you're coach in North Carolina speech.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
That's so, and that's where I was going to go.
I was like, I was, I was hesitant to go there,
but I'm like, you have to have the Bill Belichick speech.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
Yeah, and Bill Belichick.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
You can ask anybody. I can sit here as a
personal experience, there is no sugar coating when you come in.
When I went to New England and they signed me,
I sat down across from Bill Belichick. He told me
exactly what he wanted from me. I need you to
do A, B and C. And he's looked at me
and said do you think you can do that? He said,
I don't. I'm not asking you do anything else. These
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three things I need you to do. If you can
do those things, that you'll be a part of this
football team if you can't literally look at me. Mind,
if you can't, you won't And I said I can't,
and he said see you in the morning, like that's
the and that's that's not just.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
Me that.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
Straightforward with him.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
You know, I think when you're dealing with the player
who has the ability to be combustible, right, I don't
want to leave anything misunderstood if I tell and honest.
And for those who have not been to the locker
room or or or dealt with these type of men,
(11:19):
and it's not everybody, but a lot of them, a
lot of them will prefer you just be honest with me.
Don't give me to Jason Garrett. I wish I had
fifty three of you, Jesse, but the one you got
you cut because I'd rather you tell me whether you
just don't cut it, you ain't got it no more.
I can take that. Then you're telling me that I
(11:41):
respect you, telling me, hey, you just don't fit here anymore.
Bro Like you ain't fast enough, you ain't tall enough.
You won't tell me that that I go. You know what, man,
I appreciate you. I appreciate what if for earnestness. Then yes,
what it is?
Speaker 7 (11:57):
It's something? Well one, do you think Shotty will do that?
In two? What if it was Dak that did that?
Speaker 9 (12:04):
No?
Speaker 6 (12:05):
No, no, no, no no no, why no? Why no? Dak?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
It has to have a different relationship with him as
a quarterback. Troy had a different one with me. He
gonna have a different one with Troy. With with Jesse?
Speaker 6 (12:20):
What is wrong to Jesse?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
I know you gee dimension, Yeah, a quarterback. It's only
a few quarterbacks that can come at you like that,
you know, But I don't think our quarterback is that guy.
And I think Jesse probably can tell you a little more.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
I also say this, Dak is the piece keeper.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
Yes he is.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
If you're playing, if you're a parent and you're playing
good cop, backhop that's a good cop. He's like, hey, man, no,
you gonna be all right, man, come on, just that
positive positive. But when you date based, when you deal
with there are levels to who gets dealt by who,
Who who deals with who? Not who's getting dealt with,
(13:17):
but who's the CD Micah Dak those people A lot
of times it even goes above the head coach. They
get they get their their line, they're chaining the command
comes sometimes even above that dude, then it's the next
tier guy. And that has to come from Shaddy if
(13:39):
I am going to take the range of this football
team and truly and fully have control over it. And
and because what happens is the locker room starts looking
around and going, man, you ain't you that We don't
believe that, we don't believe you you need more people,
we believe, we're not believing that your actually gonna do
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what you said you're gonna do, because we're seeing how
you're treated, how you're doing this. There was that now
out Jimmy Johnson fantasy said it. Everyone gets traded fairly,
but everyone gets treated the same. But a coach has
to be the one that is able to come in
and step in and to have the authoritative hand over
the locker room and and and and especially with those
guys who are second tier and below. He has to
(14:23):
be able to come in and have that conversation with
Pickens and others in that in that realm of here's where,
here's where we're gonna be at my boy.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Well, to be fair, for all intents and purposes, everything
we've heard about Brian Schottenheimer has been that, Yes, has
been the guy that's going to take the lead and
make the final decision when he needs to her when
he does need to take over. You don't have Tyler
Brooker on this team without Brian Schottenheimer in that moment
saying like, what are we doing?
Speaker 5 (14:47):
This is the guy and that's fine. That's fine in
the off season. Yeah, that's fine in the office.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
And it's fine when you've got guys like Dak or
right Booker, you know, guys that are you know, they're
toning the line or whatever. You bring a guy, how's
he gonna handle when he's got a guy like Pickings
who comes in with some baggage.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
That's the thing. Adversity shows you who you really are
when things ain't going so right. Are you going to
be that same person in that situation to that point?
Speaker 7 (15:16):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (15:16):
Go ahead. And another thing is.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
If he has Dak Parsons, Booker, Tyler Smith rolling with him,
he's not is a non.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
Factor because if he blow up.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Let's say, Josh, the new guy, you come in here
and blow up and us three looking at you like
Jess to stop, You're like, oh no, we don't start. Yeah,
let's start over here. It's the same over that, bro.
Speaker 7 (15:47):
Yeah, could that be a part of pickings problem? In
Pittsburgh had no quarterback? No, I mean either, Yeah, you
had they have good leadership on the defense, but their
offense really didn't have anybody that could step up and
maybe keep guys sort of.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
Brother, you got to prove to this man you are
who you say you are.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
And none of those quarterbacks, even Russ later in his career,
was not that guy we saw in Seattle.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
So we don't know what.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
The issue is. But here's his second chance. Here is
his second chance. Like I said, you need to be
second chance to a greater situation or second chance. Well, man,
Pickings get what. We gave a third for him, but
he playing for such and session.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Now right, all right, boys, we need to take our
first break.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
When we come back, I want to talk more about
George Pickens the football player. I want to talk about
his assets on the field, less so much about the baggage.
But when we come back, we will talk about that.
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Speaker 5 (19:29):
It's all good, but letting him.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
You gotta let him down, bad man.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
And I read his text that he needed me to
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and uh, thirty minutes later, meaning to hit him, and
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back to him.
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I want to apologize. I ain't.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Yeah, okay, but you said it publicly.
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Now, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, I got to call him.
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They always need a little reminder, general reminders.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
An Well, the thing about it, man, I'm moving one
hundred miles hour. I went out of town and that's
what blew it.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
You're literally moving one hundred miles an hour.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
A yeah, loving it.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
You have to know you gotta know your brother, right, Yeah,
of course I know. Him not responding to me wasn't
a personal thing, not a this I know literally in
my head when he didn't respond, I said to myself,
where in the world is Carmen san Diego? I know?
I know, like, because Nate's usually good if if he don't,
now Nate may not text you back, he gonna call
(20:32):
you back. Yea, yeah, I call you back after you
send him a text. So you sent him. I sent
him a voice note, so I kind of like try
to cheek like I send him a text, he might
not touch it back. But if I sent him a
voice note, I know that he heard it. Yeah, and
he didn't respond. I was like, oh, he's definitely somewhere
like in between here and Chattanooga. I said, how many
miles did you drive.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
Between two vehicles?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Man? If I'm if I can keep my GPS only
keep me in line.
Speaker 6 (20:58):
I probably do about thirty this off season and.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
An off season. O boy, uh car, least hate to
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Speaker 2 (21:08):
Get I stopped writting because I stopped because I used
to rent a little bit man this and then all
of a sudden like oh, you're going to drive one
hundred miles a day?
Speaker 6 (21:17):
Come on, I do that round with Dallas.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
All right, boys, we need to talk more about George Pickens,
the player, the man on the field, Jesse obviously, as
a wide receiver yourself for former ore I don't know
how you what's the best term to say, former wide receiver?
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Now, once you are, you are who you are for life.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
You are who you are wide receiver, as a wide
receiver yourself. How do you see George Pickens adding to
this current team that we have first and foremost.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
When he breaks the huddle, defensive has to go. Is
he winning number fourteen? We don't know yet. Trying to
figure it out. Marku's bell, Paul for a second, get
your money, Mark, listen to uncle Jesse. Okay, George, got money.
This is your opportunity right now. If you decide to
give up twenty fourteen, the price should start at twenty
(22:03):
five k.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
That's it.
Speaker 7 (22:05):
That's it, Yeah, to.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Start start, start negotiations, begin, start at twenty five k.
See how see how interesting he really is about this number.
But in your mind, twenty five k should be your
starting point. You know what I mean? Now, would you
do it for a pair of shoes? Non? None, No
pair unless you're give me like the original cakes, unless
(22:26):
you give me like the very easy ones. And okay,
let's you give me like the eminem four something I
can not know that's gonna bring back seventy five one
hundred K value. Then yeah, but I don't think George
Picking got those in his possession, so we don't know.
Don't take it, don't take the vacation telling you one
hard cold cash in a Duffel bag, like like Ricky
Roll from Blue from Blue Chips, he just had leave
(22:48):
the Duffel bag and the tractor. That's how you want it.
Speaker 6 (22:51):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
On the field, first things first. Now, when you break
the huddle, defenses do one of two things. Let me
the guy there's eighty eight and it used to be
we're only gonna focus on him. That's it. Now it's done.
Game plan. Game plan is done. Well, we'll take our
chances with whoever's on the other side. Yep. If they
(23:13):
beat us, we tip our cap.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
And we go.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Who's that tober? Okay, well, good job. Now that defense
can't shift, that safety can't be going over there so fast.
You now have to game plan differently for the Cowboys.
What does that do for you? Opens up other passing lags,
Jake Ferguson, you need to have a comeback here.
Speaker 6 (23:34):
Right, Yes, sir, Yes, sir.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
Safety is gonna be occupied on the outside, they're gonna
be look at some other things. You gotta eat. Running
lanes come open, whether that's Javante or Sanders or Blue
or whoever the running back at that particular time. And
then when you add the component of his playmaking ability,
he's not a polished route runner. He's not a guy
(23:57):
who's gonna give you the route tree. But that's the
joy of having CD Lamb. You don't need him to.
It's a bonus if he does, but you don't need
him to. You talk about the catch radius. One of
the problems that the Cowboys had last year was one
they didn't create separation, and then two they didn't have
a player that can consistently catch the ball opposite of
(24:19):
Ceedee Lamb in tight window throws. You've now had an
answer to that question. George Pickens is a guy. When
I play with a guy named chad O Chosinko, and
he's always saying I'm seven to eleven, I'm always open.
You gotta just throw it to the right place. George
Pickens gives you that ability where he eliminates even sometimes
(24:41):
you're wrongdoing.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
Yeah, he's a bad ball catcher.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Yes, the way he's able to find the ball in
the air, his tracking.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
Skills is like insane. I compare some of his tracking
skills to guys like Larry Fitzgerald, guys like Julio Jones
des Bryant, just when the ball is in the air,
their ability to track it and no matter what's happening
around them, defender hanging on them, pushing them, pulling them,
tackling them, whatever it is, safety bearing down on them.
(25:09):
My eyes does not leave the ball and I have
the ability to catch it and bring it down. So
you've given yourself now from the wide receive position, someone
who the defense most definitely has to respect and at
any given time, he is a twenty plus yard threat
catch waiting to happen. Let the league last year keep
their bus yards. Yeah, and that's what you want. Sometimes
(25:31):
you just want even if you don't go to him,
you want the threat of he's taking the top off
that defense has to lift and now I have the
ability to do some other things. And then you keep
the mind us by saying we call it TBT to
a mother. Show you pat that thing two times and
you let one fly down the old old GP and
see what he can do with it. That's pretty good
(25:52):
with that, isn't he.
Speaker 7 (25:53):
He's one of your favorites. And I'm seeing you've talked
about him before pickings. As far as what he does.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
Yeah, like just tracking ball, he's one of the best.
He's one of the best in the league. When it
comes to tracking the football, he's one of the best.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
And that's also not to say he's not a dog either,
because when he does have the ball, Like my favorite
comparison was Nick Harris earlier on the break I think
it was yesterday, compared him to a gen Z des Bryant.
That's kind of what you get out of him when
he has the ball in his hands. The ability to
make plays when plays look broken, when a safety is
coming down is going to demolish you.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
You could give.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Him a chance at that. Yeah, absolutely, because he's a maller.
I mean, he's a Georgia bulldog.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Okay, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (26:36):
He's getting a lot of pub for his yards per
catch or whatever, the best in the league. He's so big,
what's his threat going to be in the red zone?
If this has been a struggle for the Cowboys for
a while, finding that guy that can go and get
it in the red zone.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
It's that very things. He's always open like you give
him a chance. I had the pleasure of playing with
a young in his prime, deser It didn't matter when
we got to the red zone.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
You knew.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
You knew, your mama, knew, your daddy, knew, your aunt
with the crooked wig, knew, your uncle who got a
drinking problem, knew everybody knew that if you got four
downs in the red zone, one of those was gonna
be a jump ball des Bryant and the likelihood of
him coming down with the ball for a touchdown very high.
What you get with George Piketts, it doesn't matter what
you say or what you do.
Speaker 6 (27:26):
You know it.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
I know it. Eighty one hundred thousand know it. Millions
watching at home know it. Whatever number he's wearing, let's
just say fourteen for the time being. Fourteen will get
a shot down here in the red zone. He getting
a shot And if he doesn't. That's malpracticed by the coach.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Do you guys feel worried at all about re signing him?
Speaker 6 (27:45):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (27:46):
Yeah, no is that seen worth of one year rental
if that's the.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
Case, yes, because you gotta be in the game to
win it. You don't win it if you ain't.
Speaker 6 (27:57):
In the game.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
Sports, in the game. It's in the games in.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
The So you're saying he's he can be the guy
that puts him over the top.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
Well, now you got a little too much dipping your chip.
This is what I'm saying. You gotta play twice. What
I'm saying. Sometimes you sometimes my boy and you my man,
you know you, but sometimes sometimes the chip that you
dip into the guad and just be a little heavy.
Speaker 7 (28:22):
We're not Are you contending with the Eagles now?
Speaker 5 (28:25):
No? No, not yet. You still got some holes.
Speaker 6 (28:29):
Yes this season that's what I'm.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
I think you continued with the Commanders, but you're still
who's playing corner.
Speaker 7 (28:36):
Corners?
Speaker 6 (28:37):
You don't.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
You don't know who's it's a question mark. Now it's
still a question mark.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
You. You've got to let the season play. You got.
The thing is what I love about this.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Kid is we know who he is he's not a
draft pick that we said, Okay, let's just see and
then we go to training camp talking about how great
he is against an eighth corner.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
We know who this kid is.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Now can they get enough reps before the season starts
so him and CD can work? And now we find
out who our third receive is. Is it Ferguson? Is
it a specialist punt return specialist? You're gonna find out
who I guy is.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Well.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Now the question isn't no longer a player like Mingo
or Tobert where it's like, can this person step up?
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Jonathan Mingo?
Speaker 6 (29:23):
I'm sorry for who is you talking about? But let
me I'm an jump ahead. I'm gonna jump ahead.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
Let me get to my point.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
No, no, no, I'm gonna jump ahead.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
Okay, okay, all right.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
The question is people, is it enough balls?
Speaker 2 (29:39):
And these guys out there is yeah, yeah, like you said,
you know, give out some rocks when you say, know
the rock here? So we change every now and then. Now,
this is what I've been praying for for a lot
of years. When people say is it enough balls to
be passed around? We don't have to throw to this
guy you named. We don't have throw to Turpin, throw
(30:02):
all the balls to these two guys. You see, Jesse
me and you can relate to this. You know, when
they start talking about who is the best office in Lineman,
I gotta understand they gonna talk.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
About it, Larry. You know what I'm saying, Oh yeah,
I don't forget about Nate.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Okay, do that these two guys should have seventy percent
of your footballs thrown in them. That that's the bottom line,
and that when guys you're talking about they better play
special teams, they better be good.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
I'm just I'm saying the question is no longer. Are
these guys going to step up because you finally have
that quick question figure.
Speaker 6 (30:41):
Oh, they gonna step up. I promise you that they
have to. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
I like to you posted this morning. Who was yeah
yeah from Belly Yeah yeah yeah. They didn't like that
classic Yeah what did you No? I just I just
talked about now like you know, uh, you know cowboy nations,
like oh we finally got a real number two and
now in the terminal, yeah, then go in the back.
They're all looking around like, yeah, oh we Yeah. I
(31:05):
don't like that. I don't like that. But this is
this is the business. This is another indication for those
who sometimes don't realize because Tooper's had it on Easy Street,
Yes he has. Turper's had it on Easy Street, Yes
he has floor no Easy Street. You come in here
and you're thinking like, well, I'm good. Ain't nobody really
I don't. I'm not gonna I don't have to ascend
(31:26):
to this level. The numbers don't really move in in
a favor where I should be nervous. And then you
add a dog into the mix, and all of a sudden,
now you start looking around. You start you start counting
the room. Yeah, you start counting. You start counting that roster.
You start saying, over for a second, now, how many
quarterbacks we keep in? Okay, how many running backs we got?
(31:46):
Thirty seven thousand offensive linemen? Don't know how they' gonna
keep there? How many times you starts saying, are we
gonna keep four receivers or five receivers or six receivers?
Now you start doing the math, you say, okay, well,
see the's him. We know, we know, we know he could.
They just they just brought George Pickings, so he at
least good to start play some games. Okay, they paid
turping some money the last the last all season so.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
To.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
But they're just painting as part of turning right. But
these guys now have to start. They start looking around
and start saying. They start doing the math and they
figure going a A uh a, mama, hold off on
getting that second house. Uh, you know what, we we
ain't getting that car right now. You know you gotta
tell you, you gotta tell your girl, you know what, Take
take take that burke, take that burking back, take that
(32:33):
other Louis back. We're not we ain't getting the go yard.
We gotta just hold off to this the season.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Uh uh big special Teams guy, what is his name?
Speaker 5 (32:42):
Good one?
Speaker 6 (32:43):
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Yeah?
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Speaker 4 (35:54):
I did know this. I didn't know this. I'm a
frequent listener to the show.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
I'm actually same Monoma even. I like to want to
be even. I don't have to have zero, but they
got to be a two or four, six, eight? Uh,
you know, can't be a one of five or three.
I hate that.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
I got to do it.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
I just gotta super No, No, I'm not super sitios.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
You wanted to be right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (36:17):
I wouldn't be right.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Hey, So you you went with us last week and
I ain't trying to find out what you was doing.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
But next time you decided to leave, leave us some.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
Power up points.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
So we don't you know, we know we wing it
a lot, but we don't want Shannon putting on that
were winging it.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Wait a second, Wait a second. We want to talk
about where you were last week.
Speaker 7 (36:34):
No, don't.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
You didn't give it. I don't want it.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
He didn't give it. He didn't give it.
Speaker 7 (36:39):
I was on the beach.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
Drinks. Oh you're back.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
What beach was that?
Speaker 7 (36:45):
So you you are far away.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
You're a couple of courts low.
Speaker 7 (36:52):
I wasn't too worried about your bro.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
My boy said, do not disturb.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
Bro almost said something.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
Come on, the room is rocking, don't come knock it. Yeah, boy,
my boy, two punks my time.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Like the old man once told me, say it. Don't
hurt me when you put yours to the door and
see if you're here and to know it.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
Unless is your mama on the side, listen to your mama.
Get away from that door.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Now, you said something in the first segment I kind
of want to go back to. I want to I
want to go back to this comment. You said, this
is the first trade or this is the first move
and free agency that you feel really good about?
Speaker 5 (37:44):
Was that fair to say?
Speaker 6 (37:45):
Yes, Sheriff, it's been a wow.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
I mean, we had a good corner that we got
one time, and then we got Amari and I'm trying
to put it together.
Speaker 6 (37:56):
Who have we had? Uh? That the door just opened?
Speaker 5 (38:02):
Man?
Speaker 2 (38:03):
We cried for two three months, how we needed a
wide receiver. Yes, we got better than any Ain't nobody
in the draft equal to this kid.
Speaker 6 (38:13):
No one in right here, right now, right now.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
So we got Yes, we got better.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
So I'm excited. I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Forget all of what you think he is when he
opened his mouth. We know what he is when he
hit the field.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
So I'm excited.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
But do you feel better about the off season that
we've had free agency wise now after this trade? Yes, sir,
but you weren't feeling good about it before.
Speaker 6 (38:35):
I didn't even. I didn't even I'm the only one.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
I gave an a plus for the Drafty hold your tap, Okay,
I'm a tap. I didn't say I gave an a plus
for training camp. I gave it a plus for the draft,
So I was good. I was got to think where
everybody we drafted. It's going to be an integral part
over time. But to go out and get an instant
impact when the last time we've done that fellas to
get an instant impact.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
I thought it's the fund Gilmore. I think that that
trade there, I think that kind of gave you a
boost going into that offseason. It obviously wasn't the same.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Hope Stephanie Gilmour was a stabilizer. This dude gives you hope. Yeah, yeah, man, but.
Speaker 7 (39:16):
You still don't think they're ready to take the division?
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no, no, ensure.
Speaker 7 (39:24):
It's okay, this is my question, and I love the trade.
I'm glad they didn't. They needed to do it. But
if you know you're not gonna win the division, if
you think there were.
Speaker 5 (39:34):
You don't know.
Speaker 7 (39:34):
If he doesn't take you over the top, have you
given up? You give up a third and a fifth
for a guy that you're gonna rent for a year.
Speaker 5 (39:41):
The answer won't like this is one of those things
where our answer won't come until January. That's right in February, right,
because who life is funny? Okay, A month ago, a
couple of weeks ago, there was the whole thing with
Jerry Jones saying, I don't know you know who the
(40:03):
agent is? I don't agent is? You gotta know it now?
Speaker 7 (40:09):
Know now for sure?
Speaker 5 (40:10):
You know it now because of those who don't know
Pickings agents is David Malu getto who Jerry knows knows
because he's getting ready to give he's being ready to
sign off on the contract that gives Michael Parsons, who's
also one of them Monoghella's clients. But it's it's it's
it's just funny how how how it comes around. But
this is one of those things where we won't have
(40:31):
an answer until February of how this whole thing goes.
George may get here and and Brian Shott Hammer. Hammer
may have created such a great culture and a great
room that he wants to be here. He may fall
in love with Dak and love play against cde Lamb.
Do you remember Pittsburgh has good culture? George Pickens, I'm
(40:54):
gonna say, in his football playing.
Speaker 11 (40:57):
Life, his life, college, high school life, Yes, twenty four
years on this earth, his life has never played with
a better quarterback, and they're gonna pay with this year.
Speaker 5 (41:12):
Oh that's true. In his life. Fact, George Pickens in
his let me make sure, because in his football playing life,
he's not gonna play with the better opposite wide receiver
than the one he's playing with. Now, oh yeah, that's
fair in his life and his football playing life. So
if he gets here and and he's enjoying the fact
(41:35):
that I can play a brand of football where one
I'm not having to be beat double on triple coverage,
I'm not having to catch hospital balls because the quarterback
can't throw. We're not on time, they don't know what
they're doing. He rather run first, he's washed, he's trash,
(41:55):
whatever it may be. He may enjoy it. Now I
know that he wants to get paid and it may
be able to come to a resolution that works. We
won't know that until then. He may get here and
suck and they may look at the end of the
year go bah we we we gambled. It didn't work. No,
(42:16):
I'm just saying like that, like the question. The answer
to the to the to Kurt's question is we won't know. No,
it's but like I said earlier, he gives you a
chance to be in the game, you hope, and that's
all you can ask for you want good players to
go against other good players, because when you look at
(42:37):
Philadelphia and you look at Washington, once you had prior
to what's today Tuesday wasn't going to cut it against
those teams.
Speaker 6 (42:48):
It just wasn't.
Speaker 5 (42:50):
It wasn't gonna cut it in the NFC, It wasn't
gonna cut it against the AFC. You've got, you've taken
a big step to now putting the guy out there
when you get into those tight moments. I'm not throwing it.
This is not a shot. I know it brown, but
I ain't throwing it to know it brown for the
(43:10):
bounce office chest and to go into an interception. I'm
not throwing it to a guy who October, who may
drop it or not run the wrong route, or maybe
looking in at the ball and still be standing off sides. Now,
George Pickens might get a fifty yard penny because he
punts somebody in the face that might happen comes to
the territory, But he also might get a fifty yard
bomb that sealesn't win the game for you.
Speaker 6 (43:30):
This is the issue.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Great question, great answer, But you can't tell me that
you saw dan Quinn way he finished the season.
Speaker 6 (43:42):
Everybody what man way to commanders.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
We was even though we I didn't feel it was
gonna have a great year last year, we would still
had the Commanders below the Cowboys are even it was
Philadelphia Cowboys slash Commanders, did they We don't know what
one player, one coach, several players can do to elevate
(44:06):
a team.
Speaker 6 (44:06):
So I'm with you one hundred percent. Let's wait and see.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Starting with coach Shottenheimer, please hook into doing training, doing
training camp, these practice the Chargers once and the Rams.
Speaker 6 (44:20):
We'll start finding out real quick.
Speaker 4 (44:22):
I mean we're talking a bit on talking Cowboys too.
It's the fact that, like dan Quid did that in
his first year as head coach for the Sanders, Grenady
had a head coaching experience before. But is your expectation
now different with brand new rookie head coach basically coaching
your team, but now that you have these pieces in place,
you're not competing necessarily yet against the.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Fun I'm just excited. I'm just excited that we are
making the right moves. They have not made a bad
move yet. We are making the right move. Like when
they got that kid during the middle of the season
with a fourth round pick.
Speaker 6 (45:03):
You know, in hindsight is fifty fifty. Boy, we just
waited and boy, we could.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Say, you know what, we give you a fourth and
we'll give you you know, fifth next year.
Speaker 6 (45:11):
You know, we may have to give about third. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (45:13):
Yeah, come on, could have been different. All right, boys,
we gotta get out of here. Thank you so much
for why we gotta go. It's forty five.
Speaker 6 (45:21):
He's coming out of here.
Speaker 5 (45:23):
Fesshman, He's gonna realize that we don't we don't get on.
Speaker 6 (45:25):
We don't.
Speaker 5 (45:25):
We don't go to break you know. All right, fine,
you guys, we do what we we death bro Yeah
around right man, that ship, that ship, that's I'm that producer.
The prison got knocked out, man, you're Davante, the producer.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Davante should when the prison got knocked out and beat up?
Speaker 5 (45:51):
Man, we got ISAA on the TV.
Speaker 6 (45:56):
Were just joking. He closes out.
Speaker 5 (45:58):
We gotta go.
Speaker 4 (45:59):
Thank you so much for tune in for hanging with
the boys again. I'm Josh Rodriguez hosting for Oh Sorry, Kurt,
hosting for Shannon Gross or Sharon discussing Everyone call him Jesse,
Kurt Nate christ in the back.
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