January 29, 2026 • 47 mins
Let’s check in on Brian Schottenheimer and Christian Parker constructing the defensive staff, spending money on Javonte Williams and George Pickens, DeMarcus Lawrence’s rebirth in Seattle and how teams are now building around a good quarterback, a creative offensive coordinator and a dominant defense. Plus, Nate tells stories of Jimmy Johnson arriving in 1989 and what their Super Bowl schedules were like.
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Ranging back that, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Miss me, didn't you No, not that we did if
you picked that up over there?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
How y'all being good?
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Feels like I haven't seen y'all forever? Yeah, any any news?
I need to catch up. The coach that got hired.
I heard about that. Things are happening around here. I
heard about that.
Speaker 7 (02:19):
How do y'all feel about that? How we how do
we feel as a show about that?
Speaker 5 (02:23):
This is the first time we talked about it, is it?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:26):
The hire has happened.
Speaker 8 (02:27):
When it happened the day, Oh try we broke this.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
We broke it, Tommy, Right, that's right, I'm sorry, that's true.
That's true.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
They broke that day.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
Now that it's settled in how do we how do
we feel about it? We were good with it, excited.
Speaker 9 (02:40):
Yeah, I'm glad they brought in a young up and
comer's new ideas.
Speaker 8 (02:44):
I don't like it.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
That's not that's not the the cowboy way.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
Yeah, I'm hopeful.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I'm hopeful that and even some of the assistants that
he's bringing, and I am I am. I don't ever
want anyone, especially assistance, to lose jobs, right, So I'm
not happy people lost jobs. I am happy that they've
allowed first Shotty to pick his DC and then allow this.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
DC to pick his lieutenants.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
And so to do that, you had to you had
to say bye bye some of the guys you had
already had on staff, that was already under contract.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
And I appreciate that because for two reasons.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
One, not a group, not a group last year that
we had that was that was coach well, that was
coach Well. That one group, not the front, not the middle,
not the edges, is not the back end. So you
already showed me that if we did nothing else, if
we brought back all the guys that we had last year,
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which I'm not saying that they would do, but you
already showed me that you can't do nothing with those
guys because it's on film, it's on tape of you
being the worst defense in cal war history. So out
with the old and then he gets a chance. And
the second thing is that he gets a chance to
bring in his guys. It's it's young, relatable, up and coming.
(04:18):
I think the ideas will be innovative now that the
Joneses have to do their part again and get players.
Because for every player that people attached to CP as
they call them, Christian Parker, they talk about the Cooper,
the Jeans, and they talk about the Quin Mitchell and
(04:38):
about the Reign Defensive Player of the Year and Patris
ertain the second we don't got none of them guys
on our team right now. Go get them some and
maybe he'll be able to do something with it. But
that that did give me hope that they're maybe doing
things in a different manner going forward.
Speaker 9 (04:55):
Do you think that I just love the DC higher
love these young guys. Do you think they need like
a grizzled vet in that assistant room somewhere just to
kind of maybe provide a little guidance or a little.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
I think they have.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I don't know they have I'm not saying in the room,
but if they need guidance, they got contacts, They got
phone numbers. You know, these guys, you know, whether it's
Flores or Fangio or Vance, they they got guys that
they could reach back to and.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Say, Man, I'm struggling in this part of the area.
What what what what do you? What do you advise
in that aspect of it?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
And I like the fact that this this this guy,
Christian Parker, he's building his tree, like he's getting a
chance to build history, now, you know what I mean.
Like the guys that when they go and they come
up to the right, they'll go all right. He is
a disciple of the best defensive coording the NFC East.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
Cool. So, but we'll see what.
Speaker 9 (05:54):
Was it like in eighty nine when all these college
coaches came in, Were you guys as players kind of.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Like, Oh, everybody, uh, everybody, this ain't there.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
You know, this ain't college, This ain't this, and this
ain't that. In the media, Oh, we was all right
to Jimmy made that first speech, and all of a
sudden the media lost the players.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
We cut ourselves off.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Before longer, about thirty of us got cut off completely.
So yeah, come in and uh, don't come in nice,
come in for real, letting them see who you are.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
In command. Respect.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
You know, the great coaches always tell you you can
always soften up, but it's hard to go to the
other route.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
It's hard to go to other route.
Speaker 10 (06:45):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Uh, it may get you knocked out of the first
battle as a Hall of Famer, but believe they'll win
super Bowls.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
Unbelievable, unbelievable. Yeah, another show.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 6 (07:03):
I like it because I think you are dangerously close
to this turning into the same old way we do business.
We've done it for so long, and now this thing
looks completely different. Like you got a young, a young
head coach that's not proven, but his first year in,
(07:25):
got to work on some stuff right, but for the
most part, good things right, heading in the right direction.
You let him do what you should do. Give you
a list of guys, Go get one of those guys.
Let that guy do what he should be doing and
build his team out. So it's this is not business
as usual around here. This is completely different, and hopefully
(07:46):
it's Hey, we've been doing it for thirty years this way,
let's maybe do it this way and see how this
thing goes for the next few years and see what
happens and Shoddy.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
To his credit, he was onto something because at the
at the onset of this whole hiring process, when we
started hearing names like Dante Jones and Christian Parker and
you know, Jim Leonard, these were names that most people
are casual and not even not even I could said
to myself, a hardcore football fan, didn't know who Christian
(08:18):
Parker was until he came up in the conversation of
being a d C. Of course, you know, Gannon came
into the play in the mix of all that kind
of stuff. Derontay Jones, d C, Jim Leonard they're talking
about is probably gonna be a d C. And then now, uh,
Christian Parker a d C. They just hired Jonathan Gannon
(08:40):
will be a DC. So like the names that he
was talking about that we didn't know about, he he
was we were looking at. And granted, I still would
have liked to talk to Flores, and would have liked
to talk to Raheem Morris, and would like to talk
to Robert Salah because those names they carry weight, they
walk in with respect. But the days that he brought in.
There's a whole lot of other folk that was like,
(09:03):
if you don't, we will. And so like the names
that he chose weren't names that all of a sudden
now like forgotten names.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
Those guys went off and got jobs.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
And then of course we're gonna play the We're gonna
play the game in a couple of years of who
fared better Deronte Jones over in Washington or Christian Parker
over here in Dallas. We gotta play for them twice
a year, every single year, so that matchup will always
be there to look at and compare. And you'll look
at what if Jim Leonard takes a job as a
DC and and again and all the names that we
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had in here as a DC option. We'll play the game,
you know, in a year or two and say, what
of these guys doing across the league that was in
here as the finalist for the Cowboys at this position?
Speaker 7 (09:46):
Excuse, excuse, how big of a deal is it?
Speaker 6 (09:50):
You know, we've all we've heard the last what four
or five years, is Fangio vig Fangio, he's got our number,
he's got you know, he's the best in the business.
And you go get somebody, like you said, to start
their own tree, right like that, This is opportunity for
him to become that defensive mastermind that head coaches start
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popping up that we're on his tree, you know, like
the Belichick tree and things like that. How big of
a deal is it to go get somebody within the
division that knows the team that you as of right now,
that's the team that you have to beat to get
where you want to go.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Is that is that a big deal?
Speaker 6 (10:26):
Or is that just or is him being under Fangio
and him being that mastermind a bigger deal than it
being in the division.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I think it has some advantages. You could sit down
and he's he's on your team now, right. It's not
just a casual conversation. The wins and losses count for
him as well. So any good soldier will be like,
how can I equip my infantry with the proper information
to defeat this fault? And there are some things that
(10:57):
he's learned, uh from and through Vic Fangio. There's probably
some concept that he's like, I ain't really care for this.
This probably was sucked or and also there's you know, man, listen,
here was our weak spot when.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
I was there.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Our week spot where we were always trying to hide
was this dude. Boy, we were trying to hide this
dude every single week or man, a thing that killed
us the most.
Speaker 10 (11:21):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
We could not cover this or that play just tore
us up every single time put it. They went there,
that the tight end down the middle of this and
the sideline of that run play. So having those little
insightful intel can help you out because when you play
when you play Philadelphia, it's it's always a nip and
tuck type of game. It's always one two, three, four plays.
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Which way they go their way or our way that
determines those games. And unless the Giants make a meteoric
rise and Washington comes back to you know, to to
what they did a year or so ago, it's gonna
be chasing Philly for the division.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
And I just I need, I need to have.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Some sort of advantage if I can't have it, because
you're not gonna in my personal opinion, the history says it,
you're not gonna have a better roster top to bottom
over the last Phillies roster, Like the last five to
ten years, you ain't had the better Philly roster. But
(12:25):
that doesn't means you can't win the game. If I
have tailtale signs, if I have intel, if I have
things that now give me a slight advantage in those
moments when I need the most, and then you know,
my goy ceede, lamb, you gotta you gotta catch the
football when the time to catch the football. You know
what I mean. There's no culture for that. There's no
you can tell them all you want. You know, he's
gonna do this and gon do that, all right, Cool's
wide open catch it.
Speaker 9 (12:46):
You think that's a big reason why they hired Parkers,
just because he's got this intimate knowledge of the NFC
East Or is that just an added bonus.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
I think it's a bonus. I think they I think
they wiled them.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I think I think they One of the things that
they talked about, was Stephen talked about and Will McLay
talked about, was when CP Christian Parker everybody calls him CP,
when CP UH sat down and talk with him, just
his youthful energy and the teaching part of it. They
were really excited about the fact that he was able
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to one show them a way that their defense will
be able to be good with the cornerstone.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
Players that they have.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
And then they said in their in their in their
interviews that he made it simple enough for Jerry and
Steven to understand when they met with them. So you know,
I'll hold that comment. So if we get back to
a point here next October and we're and I'm hearing
about communication and confusion, I'm gonna say, well, if he
(13:48):
explained enough for those two to get it, he got
play a problem.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
And so what you're telling me is by this time
next year, you'll either be calling them CP a Christian.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Parker from Philadelphia.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Absolutely, And let me also say, well, I'm hopeful of
the higher I still reserve the rite.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
Football is very fluid. Ye see pee today? All right?
Not for long for coaches too.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
You see p today, You brighten shiny bells and whistle
check with me a week sick, holler.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Back at me week seven, six, seven and eight.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
He might be Christian from Philadelphi, from Philadelphia, all right,
wherever the hell he's from, he might be that.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
But I guess Michael from Pittsburgh, back in Pittsburgh, calling prophecy,
call it caught it.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
All right.
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guys as we head.
Speaker 7 (17:29):
Into when does the league year start? March eleventh?
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Right now?
Speaker 7 (17:35):
We'll say March eleventh? How do you guys value?
Speaker 6 (17:41):
I think the big topic of signing guys is going
to probably be what number one is going to be pickings,
and then probably Javonte Williams is probably kind of the.
Speaker 7 (17:54):
The interest order.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
I guess of who we have on get least offensive
side of the ball, where do you value? You run
him back with this team? Because you had Rico Dwdle
on this team for how many years? Three and didn't
really do anything with him. He goes to Carolina, He
has a career year rushing for two hundred and fifty
yards a game. Javonte Williams, you kind of plug and play.
(18:16):
Great year, really solid year. But could you do that
with just your run of the meal running back with
the way that this offense is constructed, would you save
that or is that even enough money? We're talking about
what's six seven million? Dollars a year probably for him.
What we're talking about now, that three million dollar gap
(18:37):
between him and just somebody off the street. Is that
even enough in the grand scheme of things to worth it?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Would you?
Speaker 7 (18:43):
Would you go ahead and wrap him up?
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Or is it like, could we just plug Joe Blow
in there and have a decent running game.
Speaker 7 (18:52):
Because you need so many pieces.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
You do, you know?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
And I don't want to slight Javante. There's bias there, right,
He's a target. And I've said this all year long.
Really like Javonte, like I really do. There's nothing special
about Javonte. Like he doesn't have breakaway speed, he's not
(19:17):
super elusive. He's just he's just a professional running back.
And that that that lends that that lends some credibility, right,
Like he's gonna do everything right. If there's six yards
to get out of a run, he gonna get all six,
you know what I mean? Every now and again he
(19:38):
might give you nine or ten. But he ain't taking
six and making it sixty.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
He ain't. He ain't.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
He ain't making three guys missing the whole jump cut
oo ooh and hit his head on the goal post.
That's not happening now. Granted, on the other side of that,
when you talk about just plug and play, guy, because
and that's a big if you signed back George Pickens,
you're gonna have light boxes majority of the time simply
(20:05):
because of Seed Lamb and George Pickens. So that's the
thing where I go, here's what I'm giving you as
a contract, Davonte, here's where we feel you're at.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
I'm not moving off this dollar. Take it or leave it.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
It's right twenty guys.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
It's about twenty guys. You said, this is it.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
This is it.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
There's no need for negotiation. There's no need for you
to tell you people call back and say we.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Won't hear this. Here it is there, you go, this
is it. We love to have you.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
And if he's willing to do that, if he's willing
to do that, whatever that looks like, glad to have
you back. Welcome aboard. You're gonna be our starting running back.
You're gonna do what we need you to do. We're
gonna sprinkle these other guys in there. But this is
not gonna be a long standing conversation this offseason. You
you're and I hate to say this because I is.
(21:00):
I do like Javonte a lot, and he's a tar heel.
You ain't good enough for the back of forth negotiation.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
You're just not.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Here's what it is, my boy. We would love to
have you there here. That's the cost. Now, George, you're
gonna have to deal with it. You gonna have to
deal with it. That's a guy you're gonna have. Now,
that's a guy you're gonna have to sit back and go,
what's your number? Here's our number, what's your number. Here's
it's gonna have to be some it's gonna to be
a little tennis being played here you decide. Here's the
(21:29):
franchise tagging. Yeah, you know, that's that's the negotiation conversation.
I don't think there's a lot of negotiating going I
would be doing with Javonte.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
Yeah, I just wouldn't.
Speaker 9 (21:41):
It didn't rank in the top thirty for facing eight
man fronts. Yeah, yeah, the box they're not.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
It's tough.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
It's tough. You you you have to have you. You
have to have all pros at corner. If you're gonna
load the box with those two dudes on the outside
and most teams just don't have that.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
They don't have to do.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
They can line up on the outside and go all right, now,
I'm gonna bring that safety down and he gonna But
you just don't have it.
Speaker 9 (22:06):
But do you need to spend that kind of money?
I think the bigger question is you spend that money
on pickings. I mean, you look, do the two Super
Bowl teams have two stud wide receivers like that?
Speaker 8 (22:16):
I mean, can you can't you win without?
Speaker 5 (22:21):
I meant, oh lord, I mean I want him back.
But I'm saying, but you understand.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Where you're coming from, and you sound logical, very very logical.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I have in order to go in order to go
ordinary like you just can't. You you can't be ordinary
on both sides of the ball, thank you. You just can't. Like, Okay, Seattle,
We're we're okay. Offensively, we have we have J and
S Jack Jackson Smith and Jigba and we're okay there.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
We're lead on We're a lead on defense. We're the best.
We're the best defensive team in the league.
Speaker 7 (22:58):
Got Sam Donald, but we got these guys on it.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
But our defense is lights out, you know what I'm saying.
And so you you you can. You can carry that
to you.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
Right right, Drake May's shortcomings because my defense is playing
lights out but being average on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
First round exit.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
You gotta you gotta, you gotta you gotta, you gotta gotta,
you gotta, you gotta pick a side to be great
on and then hope the other side is average and
that carries you. But if you're gonna, if you're gonna
get if you if you're saying, and I'm there are
scenarios where I've been on record saying I would be
okay with trading away George Pickens if it if it
(23:41):
yielded bringing back some picks, and if it got picks
and players, because I've seen this offense with CD and them, Yeah,
helped that get to second in the league and MVP
votings and still be a really a really, really really
good offense. But what ended up happened was you had
a defense and it costs you now trading away George
(24:05):
Pickers mint I was able to load up and become
elite on defense.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
Can you the way the league is starting to change now,
and it looks like there's more of a shift into
just give me a quarterback that won't throw the game away.
Can you can you still win with the with a
a really good elite offense and a mediocre defense, or
(24:31):
do you.
Speaker 7 (24:31):
Have to have those thumpers on defense?
Speaker 6 (24:34):
Because every every every defense we played that you talked
about Denver, you know, you told us what nine weeks ago,
the boys are good, you know, and then New England
and then Seattle and all these it's it's almost going
back to the old school football where you know, Trent
deal for one year Super Bowl in Baltimore, like, just
give me a.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
Guy to drive the bus, not turn the ball over.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
But more teams are realizing, Shanning and guys, what more
teams are realizing is it ain't but five or six
elite quarterbacks. So these general managers and playoff personnels are
really looking at their owners and they're fac saying, sir,
it ain't but five or six elite guys. We're gonna
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have to go a different route. We're gonna have like
like Jesse said, we're gonna build elite defense here, and
we're gonna get a guy in here that's not gonna
throw a bunch of interceptions, and we're gonna get a
very creative offensive coordinator. That's that is at a premium now.
And you notice most of the head coaches are coming
from the offensive coordinator side, because that's an elite thing
(25:41):
to be creative to make to line people up so
your quarterback don't.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Have to work.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
He just come up boom, Okay, let me throw it away,
let me dump it over here, or let me just
take this sack.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
You know, so your answers are written into the question. Yes,
you know what I'm saying. Like, most quarterbacks now are
coming to a line of scrimmage and the play when
they leave the huddle, Listen, this is the route concept.
They go cover two ball, go right there. Yeah that
we we're not. Don't even play around with it.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
I don't need you to be Peyton Manning. Get up there,
and that's where it goes. And we're gonna take this
twelve yard game, this nine yard game.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Yeah, it's gonna be second and two and we're gonna
make them gonna dink and dunk and when they come
up that one time, and then I.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Just methodically wear you out throughout the game. And that's
and then you have this is where you trickle. You
trickle in those elite players where you look at a
guy like Jackson Smith and Jigba, right, but yeah, this
this route is for twelve yards. Now when Jackson catches it,
(26:43):
he gonna make him miss. Yeah, and now it's forty
like we don't have to go for all forty all
the time.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Did you see in the Rams game when it first
started against Seattle, go back and watch the first three
four plays.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
It's just what he said.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
And each one of those back rashid or whatever, they
made everybody miss, even when they was trying to jam,
they made him missing. Boom this fifty five yards first play,
next play, he walker kids shakes somebody. Every time it
was somebody making somebody miss. It wasn't no, you know,
just besides that one fifty five, everybody's making people miss.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
And that's what it's all about. That's what it's all about.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Getting that supreme athlete that with some knowledge, with some
football knowledge. All of these guys we see now either
being told exactly what to do, are smart enough to
know what to do to adjust.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
And look at Seattle, Seattle, like you look at that
passing game, right, Seattle gave you everything you would like
to have. This guy in one player right, But Seattle said, okay,
you know they made a miss. He's in trade because
they said we don't have enough down to field speed.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
No problem. Hey y'all don't want Rashisha he no more? Yeah,
no problem, will take them.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
They went and they got they had got In the
off season, the Rams told Cooper Cup you should probably retire.
They said, come on over because what you know, I
want you to put into this other kid named Jackson
Smith and Jig but who I know got got the
got the goods.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
So I got a.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Speed guy take the top off. I got another guy
to do everything that we need to do. And then
I got a grizzled VT who I know will come
up clutch whenever I'd even come up clutch third down.
But what he gonna do is what he gonna do
is he gonna look at the young boy and say,
let me tell you. Let me tell you about the
six am breakfast club, Sam Donald, Let me let me
show you what we did over in with the Rams.
(28:39):
We had a six am breakfast club. Me uh, my
other receivers and Matthew Stafford. We met every day at
six a m. So that we had everything down packed
and we got on the football field. So I'm gonna
take that incorporated with this. Coach said, I gotta, I
gotta take the top off. I got an All Pro
and then I got the grizzle vet.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Hey, Sam, just don't throw to the other team.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
We're good because each one of these guys bring a
unique skill set and we're going to exploit it in
every which way that we can. And they found themselves,
I mean Jack Smith and Jigba Has I mean all
Pro right, leading the league in receiving yards, has terrific season.
All his stuff ain't been Randy Moss mailbox, throw your
(29:23):
hand up, fifty yard post. Nope, it's been science, has
been ends, it's been posts, it's been out routes. He's
gonna he's gonna touchdown. Last week in the in the
in the conference championship game from the backfield he ran,
he ran, They ran a scissors route. He ran a corner,
he ran a post, they ran a scissors route.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Ain't nobody guard.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Him putting the dude in the backfield?
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Confusing the linebacker didn't know he went from being a receiver.
Put the dude he was a receiver. And an Safty said,
all right, we got him in coverage. He motioned into
the back of the linebacker said, wait a second, he's
a running back. Now I gotta defend him. And you
see them they look at it. They're like, wait, what's
going on here? They look at each other. Play snapped
the two safeties. What with the post route the linebacker
(30:04):
carried a vertical a little bit, was like, well he
din cover too, says back there, I'm gonna go back
and cover cover air colder route.
Speaker 10 (30:10):
You know.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
And you know the secret, you know the secret to
all of this, the biggest secret.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Nobody talks about. Who is this starting center? Who's they
starting guard? I'm talking about Seattle.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Who's they starting left tackle?
Speaker 7 (30:26):
Hm hmm.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
He just blocked people. I'm just telling you. I'm just
telling you, don't forget. Don't forget what really wins.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
Now, all right, let's take our last break. When we
come back the week but is a week and a half.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Before the Super Bowl. Who cares?
Speaker 6 (30:46):
We'll see if lady see if Nate cares or not,
and why he doesn't care.
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When we come back on hanging with the boys, be
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Speaker 8 (33:35):
Which for you? In Mexico? Team being Gold, team all
of it.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Apparently, Yeah, that's why you came over and flew.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
I know, I know it should have been team face
Masks and kept your face safe.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
Nate, Why why don't you care about play Bowl?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Shouldn't have been because I always sit there looking at
the Super Bowl for the last twenty five years saying
why didn't we.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Get that player?
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Why they can't we do that?
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Why can't we run this off this motion? Why can't
we play? So I don't care who goes this year
because I know what.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
I'm that player with us a year.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
Oh bro, we got a lot of you know what
the reassuring thing about this year is because you're right,
we usually have a lot of those questions. This year
it was we simply did not have the players on
defense to win football games.
Speaker 7 (34:26):
A lot of times, was it scheme?
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Was it?
Speaker 15 (34:28):
This?
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Was it?
Speaker 7 (34:29):
We let this guy Gord.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
He told y'all, he told y'all, he told y'all, but
he left.
Speaker 7 (34:37):
He told y'all how y'all feel about that?
Speaker 8 (34:40):
Was that a bigger loss than Parsons?
Speaker 1 (34:42):
No? No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
But honestly, like if I'm if I'm keeping it the buck,
those two couldn't exist together.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
No, they can't.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Because they were They were both alphas, and I think
they both grew because here's the thing, there's only one
real true alpha per side, like there's only one real
truth that's any team, on any team. And and when
(35:18):
either either you, you have to come to you either
have to in most cases, like in the jungle, when
the young lion challenged the old lion, you got to
just beat him out of it, or you have to
just he's old enough. He goes, I gracefully bow wow.
And And neither one of those two were willing to
do either one of those. And they both had philosophies
(35:42):
that were outside of the core concept of what they
wanted to do. Because I knew it was a rap
and shout out to I don't I don't know if
sounds of the sideline brother. They probably didn't. So I
don't want to say Alex Lily, but shout out Ali Lily.
Any he does a great job with the sounds of
the sideline. But there was that moment on the sideline
(36:04):
when Tank is sitting there and no, I'm rehashing old
stuff for people that we don't talk about anymore.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
That's no longer here.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
But there was a moment in time the sideline where
Tank was sitting down and Micah comes off the sideline,
off the field on the sideline and he's barking at
people and he's yelling at people about assignments and stuff
like that, and Tank says to him, don't yell at
them when you ain't doing what you're supposed to do.
That's when I knew, Like, that's when it was, oh,
(36:32):
this is this is over that those two can't coexist
because you have two players in their own right who
were standing ten toes down, and so you you the
locker room was divided defensively because there were there were
Tank supporters old school, there were Micah supporters. There were
(36:52):
dudes who had the belief of Tank. There were dudes
who had the belief of Micah. There were dudes you
wanted do to to do things in which the matter
of what the coach wanted to be done, they wanted
something that was going freestyle. And so when you had
all that mixing together disaster. It was what we saw.
So those two you had to get eventually get rid
(37:14):
of one of them. Now I didn't they get rid
of both of them. You like to keep one of them.
But Tank went and did his thing over there, and
ultimately Micah ended up going to do his thing over there.
Speaker 5 (37:25):
No, and and and and now you know ones at
the Super.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Bowl and then there's always that four or five players
that get way back out the way and wait to
see who win. Yeah, no, I ain't getting into that.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
I'm going on home, y'all.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
That's what they be like, You ain't. I'm right like,
hey man, y'all, y' got it, y'all got it. Hey,
I'm over here. I'm out of the hey man.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
You were right.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
Once the outpha, once the autphae comes up and dominates you,
like and I was really rolling with you.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
I didn't want to take no sob I was always
you know, human nature. You could tell who was with
who during you know, during those times, and they just
you know, and congrats to both of them. Micael got
the contract that he want. Tank is playing a Super
Bowl that he said that that's what you went to Seattle,
for so.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
You know what's amazing is we always talk about accountability.
The defensive back for Seattle, you.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Know, made the made the boo boo, Yeah was it?
Rick Woland made the bad move, which about the way
he'll be a free interest this year.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
And the cameras went immediately when he hit the sideline
and players were checking him, like, bro, you realize what you.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
What the potentially happened from this?
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Did you realize where we're at and the opportunity You
know a lot of people missed that. It wasn't no,
And I don't feel and maybe I'm not in their
locker room, but I don't feel once that was said,
it sees that was over.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
You know.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
I think the young guy said, yeah, you know, once
he thought about it. Yeah cool. You know, but when
you got people that's not gonna let you get too
far out of the line, especially when you're done jumped
across the fence, they're gonna try to get you back
as quick as possible because the game was still in there.
And you know, it's just a lot of people miss that.
To me, that's important, you know, because we had that
(39:22):
on my team. You know, when you got winning teams
and teams that are coming.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
Closer like that side left and right? Man, huh you
jumping off something. I'll messing with you.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Yeah, I was, Yeah, I was, you know, until somebody said,
hey man, that don't work no more.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
That don't work no more. And if we have to
tell you big news, it's hard to it's hard too.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
And when we break the huddle, big new, you know. Yeah,
and so I forget to play, but I eat jump offside?
Speaker 1 (39:53):
What what was?
Speaker 5 (39:54):
You're you're out next week?
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Right?
Speaker 5 (39:56):
Yes, sir?
Speaker 7 (39:57):
For what bro, I'll be a radio ro timeless. We
gotta hold it down next week. So what what what
is this week like? Next week's all business?
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Right? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (40:10):
We we today, They in this time and era, they
get so many days off. We didn't get that. You know,
we had to come in every day and do something.
You know, you would get a short day like this
weekend coming up, that's opening. You know we'll get off
early on Friday. Had to be back by one o'clock Monday.
You know you aren't gonna get four or five days off,
(40:32):
you know, you you you know you get that that
Friday evening, Like I said, about one or two you practice,
then you have to be back Monday, but you have
to work out, so you might have come in at
eight o'clock in the morning. So, uh, but you hung
out of the bit with your family. You got rid
of your tickets. That was mandatory. He did not want
back then. You know, we could bring in the man
with the suit.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
You know.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Nowadays you know you gotta just send it over the
you know, the phone.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
So but it was fun. It was fun. It was fun.
Speaker 7 (41:02):
How long were y'all How long were y'all on site?
Speaker 5 (41:05):
A week?
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Yeah, we we got We flew in that Sunday. We're
flying that Sunday.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Yeah, and have a few days of no we would
keep to know, we would keep the same schedule. We're
flying that Sunday, Monday, we would work out. Tuesday would
be off. Wednesday we've started the regular week. Jimmy like
to keep it the same all the way through. He
believed that if you stayed with the routine as close
as you could, no matter where you were, you would
(41:32):
be a better team.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
At the end of the Sunday comes.
Speaker 6 (41:35):
And the game was on Sunday late, So y'all were
there from Sunday to Sunday. Yeah, how many nights of Shenanigans.
Did you have that week?
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Was it up? Well?
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Early in the week, Coach Johnson just say, man, at
one o'clock, I've been out here about nobody on the street.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
You know where you at? After one? Who house you over?
We ain't worried about it. Just beyond the street on
the street, who you win and how many you win?
We ain't worthing.
Speaker 6 (42:05):
And what day did y'all get like super focused on
going to bed on time?
Speaker 3 (42:10):
That's shoted Wednesday. So that's shot at Wednesday, that started
Wednesday night. And he wasn't joking, man, he was He
wasn't playing. He wasn't gonna stop you from playing any
game depending on who you were. But you're gonna pay
a fine. Oh yeah, he gonna get you. Yeah shout
Eric Willims. Yeah yeah. But one thing about it, it
(42:30):
was just so much fun. It was just the whole
work week was fun. I mean, if you he coach
believed in every day had it was his own day.
Live in this day, cherish this day, Preparing each day,
you know, so we'll be better tomorrow. Prepared this day
so we'll be better the next day. Peeking for that game.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
You know, what was your favorite part of the whole
week because you were there with your guys.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Snuck out at halftime and watch Michael Jackson.
Speaker 7 (42:58):
Yeah, how many yells knock out watched?
Speaker 1 (43:01):
Just me?
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Yeah, I don't know if anybody else did, because I said,
God had these restaurant.
Speaker 7 (43:08):
How much it showed you get watched.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
I got to see a litle bit of but I
stayed too long. But you know it had to be
back they checking wait did do that?
Speaker 10 (43:16):
Man got the thrill a lot and that was the
that was was that the first I think it was
the first one, right, that was the first halftime show, right, No, I.
Speaker 8 (43:30):
Think they have nobody that big and play.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Because was that If I'm not mistaken. I was a
little bit young then, but that was the time because
in living color a year ago, they they debuted there
in living color and it stole all of narrating from
the Super Bowl. And I think the next year of
the NFL was like not this time in living color
(43:55):
and they had the grand performers production, they had the
ready to performance you know before of all time, I
think that was the first time they went to that
kind of.
Speaker 9 (44:05):
Yeah, like says here like new Kids on the Block
were ninety one, but it.
Speaker 8 (44:12):
Was Michael Jackson.
Speaker 9 (44:13):
Jackson changed the game as far as people view, making
it must see TV. That yeah, okay, I mean for
it used to be marching bands, you know, was it
really now?
Speaker 3 (44:24):
I'll tell you Son, we left our mark on every
city that we played in.
Speaker 5 (44:30):
I mean, I'm always than one.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
You know, when in Atlanta it was all about the clubs.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
It's still all about the clubs Atlanta. Except why, I
know you don't live that life no more.
Speaker 5 (44:42):
What I hear.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
We brought the limos in on on Phoenix.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
You know, Scottsdale was still like scott Stille, Scottsdale like
Scottsdale is.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
I don't know, man, but all I know is they
told those places we couldn't go, And I got a secret.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
List to every one of those places. Which one was.
Speaker 7 (45:00):
Your favorite city?
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Just uh city? Atlanta? Atlanta is the best. But at
least my wife got half.
Speaker 5 (45:12):
That's an end, Jesse. Good luck on your last two days.
Enjoy your kirt seeing in the game.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
No no, no, no, no, you do when you come home.
Speaker 6 (45:23):
What's your week looks like tomorrow? I mean next week?
Are you just on radio road the whole week?
Speaker 5 (45:27):
Whole week Monday, Monday, we leave Friday.
Speaker 6 (45:29):
Producers just grabbing folks and bringing them on the air.
That'll be so much fun.
Speaker 5 (45:32):
I hate it, do you I hate Radio Row?
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Why?
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Because it is a It is an you be hustling
crap show. You be hustling, hustling, Oh dag.
Speaker 7 (45:41):
You have to hustle to or eat your producers.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
If he wants somebody real bad man, because if they're
not on the list, and you know, I'm like, hey,
you know, if Michael Ever walks by, he on our
list and he you know, Mike, come on, bro, give me.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Go out there.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
And you know, thank god we got Clarence who knows
a gang of people. But I mean I have former
teammates and people that I know by the time, they're like, hey, man,
typing is some of those contacts. And you want to
make sure that you do this because Folks is paying
shout the fabletics. Folks is paying for you to go
and all that kind of stuff. So you would have
had the numbers up. Know how you get those numbers up.
You got to have people out there, so you know,
(46:20):
that always comes back on you because if you don't
get the numbers right and everything ain't right.
Speaker 7 (46:23):
Who's your biggest guest to own on your list right now?
Speaker 5 (46:26):
You know, I haven't seen the list. You know, I
haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 7 (46:28):
Make sure make sure you give us a good report
when you come back.
Speaker 5 (46:31):
And yeah, I will, I will.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
That'd be fun.
Speaker 7 (46:33):
It'd be fun.
Speaker 5 (46:34):
I mean, yeah, it's and it was twenty people. It's
just my anxieties way up here. I'll be ready to go,
I mean.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
And I'm not good with being you know what I'm saying,
because sometimes people say no and get out of here.
Speaker 5 (46:48):
I ain't.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
I don't. I don't.
Speaker 5 (46:50):
I don't fear too well.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
No, No, I don't fare too well with being like
blatantly dissed to my face.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
I don't like.
Speaker 6 (46:56):
I don't when you go out, when you leave Sunday, Sunday,
and then you come back Friday, Friday. All right, we
have a safe trip off the shift, Nate. Good seeing
all you guys. Chris, thanks for keeping us on the air.
Speaker 4 (47:08):
We'll be back.
Speaker 7 (47:09):
I guess the three of us next Thursday. You in town.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
Yeah, yeah, and we'll call it. You know, no, I
call it I calling.
Speaker 7 (47:17):
You're doing the show next Thursday, Kurt, Let's do the show.
Speaker 6 (47:21):
Next Thursday time, same place, pre Super Bowl show.
Speaker 7 (47:25):
Good seeing you fellas, we'll see you. I know I'll
do it again.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Yeah we spread, we spreading do Mexican floor around now all.
Speaker 7 (47:33):
Right, Well see next week.
Speaker 5 (47:33):
Hang with the boys.
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Speaker 7 (01:15):
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Hey?
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I got two more day.
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Lobster and I got yeah, two days left. I got
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It's gonna be Saturday.
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Night, Mexico.
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Ranging back that, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Miss me, didn't you No, not that we did if
you picked that up over there?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
How y'all being good?
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Feels like I haven't seen y'all forever? Yeah, any any news?
I need to catch up. The coach that got hired.
I heard about that. Things are happening around here. I
heard about that.
Speaker 7 (02:19):
How do y'all feel about that? How we how do
we feel as a show about that?
Speaker 5 (02:23):
This is the first time we talked about it, is it?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:26):
The hire has happened.
Speaker 8 (02:27):
When it happened the day, Oh try we broke this.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
We broke it, Tommy, Right, that's right, I'm sorry, that's true.
That's true.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
They broke that day.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
Now that it's settled in how do we how do
we feel about it? We were good with it, excited.
Speaker 9 (02:40):
Yeah, I'm glad they brought in a young up and
comer's new ideas.
Speaker 8 (02:44):
I don't like it.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
That's not that's not the the cowboy way.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
Yeah, I'm hopeful.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I'm hopeful that and even some of the assistants that
he's bringing, and I am I am. I don't ever
want anyone, especially assistance, to lose jobs, right, So I'm
not happy people lost jobs. I am happy that they've
allowed first Shotty to pick his DC and then allow this.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
DC to pick his lieutenants.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
And so to do that, you had to you had
to say bye bye some of the guys you had
already had on staff, that was already under contract.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
And I appreciate that because for two reasons.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
One, not a group, not a group last year that
we had that was that was coach well, that was
coach Well. That one group, not the front, not the middle,
not the edges, is not the back end. So you
already showed me that if we did nothing else, if
we brought back all the guys that we had last year,
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which I'm not saying that they would do, but you
already showed me that you can't do nothing with those
guys because it's on film, it's on tape of you
being the worst defense in cal war history. So out
with the old and then he gets a chance. And
the second thing is that he gets a chance to
bring in his guys. It's it's young, relatable, up and coming.
(04:18):
I think the ideas will be innovative now that the
Joneses have to do their part again and get players.
Because for every player that people attached to CP as
they call them, Christian Parker, they talk about the Cooper,
the Jeans, and they talk about the Quin Mitchell and
(04:38):
about the Reign Defensive Player of the Year and Patris
ertain the second we don't got none of them guys
on our team right now. Go get them some and
maybe he'll be able to do something with it. But
that that did give me hope that they're maybe doing
things in a different manner going forward.
Speaker 9 (04:55):
Do you think that I just love the DC higher
love these young guys. Do you think they need like
a grizzled vet in that assistant room somewhere just to
kind of maybe provide a little guidance or a little.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
I think they have.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I don't know they have I'm not saying in the room,
but if they need guidance, they got contacts, They got
phone numbers. You know, these guys, you know, whether it's
Flores or Fangio or Vance, they they got guys that
they could reach back to and.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Say, Man, I'm struggling in this part of the area.
What what what what do you? What do you advise
in that aspect of it?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
And I like the fact that this this this guy,
Christian Parker, he's building his tree, like he's getting a
chance to build history, now, you know what I mean.
Like the guys that when they go and they come
up to the right, they'll go all right. He is
a disciple of the best defensive coording the NFC East.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
Cool. So, but we'll see what.
Speaker 9 (05:54):
Was it like in eighty nine when all these college
coaches came in, Were you guys as players kind of.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Like, Oh, everybody, uh, everybody, this ain't there.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
You know, this ain't college, This ain't this, and this
ain't that. In the media, Oh, we was all right
to Jimmy made that first speech, and all of a
sudden the media lost the players.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
We cut ourselves off.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Before longer, about thirty of us got cut off completely.
So yeah, come in and uh, don't come in nice,
come in for real, letting them see who you are.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
In command. Respect.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
You know, the great coaches always tell you you can
always soften up, but it's hard to go to the
other route.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
It's hard to go to other route.
Speaker 10 (06:45):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Uh, it may get you knocked out of the first
battle as a Hall of Famer, but believe they'll win
super Bowls.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
Unbelievable, unbelievable. Yeah, another show.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 6 (07:03):
I like it because I think you are dangerously close
to this turning into the same old way we do business.
We've done it for so long, and now this thing
looks completely different. Like you got a young, a young
head coach that's not proven, but his first year in,
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got to work on some stuff right, but for the
most part, good things right, heading in the right direction.
You let him do what you should do. Give you
a list of guys, Go get one of those guys.
Let that guy do what he should be doing and
build his team out. So it's this is not business
as usual around here. This is completely different, and hopefully
(07:46):
it's Hey, we've been doing it for thirty years this way,
let's maybe do it this way and see how this
thing goes for the next few years and see what
happens and Shoddy.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
To his credit, he was onto something because at the
at the onset of this whole hiring process, when we
started hearing names like Dante Jones and Christian Parker and
you know, Jim Leonard, these were names that most people
are casual and not even not even I could said
to myself, a hardcore football fan, didn't know who Christian
(08:18):
Parker was until he came up in the conversation of
being a d C. Of course, you know, Gannon came
into the play in the mix of all that kind
of stuff. Derontay Jones, d C, Jim Leonard they're talking
about is probably gonna be a d C. And then now, uh,
Christian Parker a d C. They just hired Jonathan Gannon
(08:40):
will be a DC. So like the names that he
was talking about that we didn't know about, he he
was we were looking at. And granted, I still would
have liked to talk to Flores, and would have liked
to talk to Raheem Morris, and would like to talk
to Robert Salah because those names they carry weight, they
walk in with respect. But the days that he brought in.
There's a whole lot of other folk that was like,
(09:03):
if you don't, we will. And so like the names
that he chose weren't names that all of a sudden
now like forgotten names.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
Those guys went off and got jobs.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
And then of course we're gonna play the We're gonna
play the game in a couple of years of who
fared better Deronte Jones over in Washington or Christian Parker
over here in Dallas. We gotta play for them twice
a year, every single year, so that matchup will always
be there to look at and compare. And you'll look
at what if Jim Leonard takes a job as a
DC and and again and all the names that we
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had in here as a DC option. We'll play the game,
you know, in a year or two and say, what
of these guys doing across the league that was in
here as the finalist for the Cowboys at this position?
Speaker 7 (09:46):
Excuse, excuse, how big of a deal is it?
Speaker 6 (09:50):
You know, we've all we've heard the last what four
or five years, is Fangio vig Fangio, he's got our number,
he's got you know, he's the best in the business.
And you go get somebody, like you said, to start
their own tree, right like that, This is opportunity for
him to become that defensive mastermind that head coaches start
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popping up that we're on his tree, you know, like
the Belichick tree and things like that. How big of
a deal is it to go get somebody within the
division that knows the team that you as of right now,
that's the team that you have to beat to get
where you want to go.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Is that is that a big deal?
Speaker 6 (10:26):
Or is that just or is him being under Fangio
and him being that mastermind a bigger deal than it
being in the division.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I think it has some advantages. You could sit down
and he's he's on your team now, right. It's not
just a casual conversation. The wins and losses count for
him as well. So any good soldier will be like,
how can I equip my infantry with the proper information
to defeat this fault? And there are some things that
(10:57):
he's learned, uh from and through Vic Fangio. There's probably
some concept that he's like, I ain't really care for this.
This probably was sucked or and also there's you know, man, listen,
here was our weak spot when.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
I was there.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Our week spot where we were always trying to hide
was this dude. Boy, we were trying to hide this
dude every single week or man, a thing that killed
us the most.
Speaker 10 (11:21):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
We could not cover this or that play just tore
us up every single time put it. They went there,
that the tight end down the middle of this and
the sideline of that run play. So having those little
insightful intel can help you out because when you play
when you play Philadelphia, it's it's always a nip and
tuck type of game. It's always one two, three, four plays.
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Which way they go their way or our way that
determines those games. And unless the Giants make a meteoric
rise and Washington comes back to you know, to to
what they did a year or so ago, it's gonna
be chasing Philly for the division.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
And I just I need, I need to have.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Some sort of advantage if I can't have it, because
you're not gonna in my personal opinion, the history says it,
you're not gonna have a better roster top to bottom
over the last Phillies roster, Like the last five to
ten years, you ain't had the better Philly roster. But
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that doesn't means you can't win the game. If I
have tailtale signs, if I have intel, if I have
things that now give me a slight advantage in those
moments when I need the most, and then you know,
my goy ceede, lamb, you gotta you gotta catch the
football when the time to catch the football. You know
what I mean. There's no culture for that. There's no
you can tell them all you want. You know, he's
gonna do this and gon do that, all right, Cool's
wide open catch it.
Speaker 9 (12:46):
You think that's a big reason why they hired Parkers,
just because he's got this intimate knowledge of the NFC
East Or is that just an added bonus.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
I think it's a bonus. I think they I think
they wiled them.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I think I think they One of the things that
they talked about, was Stephen talked about and Will McLay
talked about, was when CP Christian Parker everybody calls him CP,
when CP UH sat down and talk with him, just
his youthful energy and the teaching part of it. They
were really excited about the fact that he was able
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to one show them a way that their defense will
be able to be good with the cornerstone.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
Players that they have.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
And then they said in their in their in their
interviews that he made it simple enough for Jerry and
Steven to understand when they met with them. So you know,
I'll hold that comment. So if we get back to
a point here next October and we're and I'm hearing
about communication and confusion, I'm gonna say, well, if he
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explained enough for those two to get it, he got
play a problem.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
And so what you're telling me is by this time
next year, you'll either be calling them CP a Christian.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Parker from Philadelphia.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Absolutely, And let me also say, well, I'm hopeful of
the higher I still reserve the rite.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
Football is very fluid. Ye see pee today? All right?
Not for long for coaches too.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
You see p today, You brighten shiny bells and whistle
check with me a week sick, holler.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Back at me week seven, six, seven and eight.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
He might be Christian from Philadelphi, from Philadelphia, all right,
wherever the hell he's from, he might be that.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
But I guess Michael from Pittsburgh, back in Pittsburgh, calling prophecy,
call it caught it.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
All right.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
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All right, almost there, Jesse almost What how do you
guys as we head.
Speaker 7 (17:29):
Into when does the league year start? March eleventh?
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Right now?
Speaker 7 (17:35):
We'll say March eleventh? How do you guys value?
Speaker 6 (17:41):
I think the big topic of signing guys is going
to probably be what number one is going to be pickings,
and then probably Javonte Williams is probably kind of the.
Speaker 7 (17:54):
The interest order.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
I guess of who we have on get least offensive
side of the ball, where do you value? You run
him back with this team? Because you had Rico Dwdle
on this team for how many years? Three and didn't
really do anything with him. He goes to Carolina, He
has a career year rushing for two hundred and fifty
yards a game. Javonte Williams, you kind of plug and play.
(18:16):
Great year, really solid year. But could you do that
with just your run of the meal running back with
the way that this offense is constructed, would you save
that or is that even enough money? We're talking about
what's six seven million? Dollars a year probably for him.
What we're talking about now, that three million dollar gap
(18:37):
between him and just somebody off the street. Is that
even enough in the grand scheme of things to worth it?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Would you?
Speaker 7 (18:43):
Would you go ahead and wrap him up?
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Or is it like, could we just plug Joe Blow
in there and have a decent running game.
Speaker 7 (18:52):
Because you need so many pieces.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
You do, you know?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
And I don't want to slight Javante. There's bias there, right,
He's a target. And I've said this all year long.
Really like Javonte, like I really do. There's nothing special
about Javonte. Like he doesn't have breakaway speed, he's not
(19:17):
super elusive. He's just he's just a professional running back.
And that that that lends that that lends some credibility, right,
Like he's gonna do everything right. If there's six yards
to get out of a run, he gonna get all six,
you know what I mean? Every now and again he
(19:38):
might give you nine or ten. But he ain't taking
six and making it sixty.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
He ain't. He ain't.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
He ain't making three guys missing the whole jump cut
oo ooh and hit his head on the goal post.
That's not happening now. Granted, on the other side of that,
when you talk about just plug and play, guy, because
and that's a big if you signed back George Pickens,
you're gonna have light boxes majority of the time simply
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because of Seed Lamb and George Pickens. So that's the
thing where I go, here's what I'm giving you as
a contract, Davonte, here's where we feel you're at.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
I'm not moving off this dollar. Take it or leave it.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
It's right twenty guys.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
It's about twenty guys. You said, this is it.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
This is it.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
There's no need for negotiation. There's no need for you
to tell you people call back and say we.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Won't hear this. Here it is there, you go, this
is it. We love to have you.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
And if he's willing to do that, if he's willing
to do that, whatever that looks like, glad to have
you back. Welcome aboard. You're gonna be our starting running back.
You're gonna do what we need you to do. We're
gonna sprinkle these other guys in there. But this is
not gonna be a long standing conversation this offseason. You
you're and I hate to say this because I is.
(21:00):
I do like Javonte a lot, and he's a tar heel.
You ain't good enough for the back of forth negotiation.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
You're just not.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Here's what it is, my boy. We would love to
have you there here. That's the cost. Now, George, you're
gonna have to deal with it. You gonna have to
deal with it. That's a guy you're gonna have. Now,
that's a guy you're gonna have to sit back and go,
what's your number? Here's our number, what's your number. Here's
it's gonna have to be some it's gonna to be
a little tennis being played here you decide. Here's the
(21:29):
franchise tagging. Yeah, you know, that's that's the negotiation conversation.
I don't think there's a lot of negotiating going I
would be doing with Javonte.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
Yeah, I just wouldn't.
Speaker 9 (21:41):
It didn't rank in the top thirty for facing eight
man fronts. Yeah, yeah, the box they're not.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
It's tough.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
It's tough. You you you have to have you. You
have to have all pros at corner. If you're gonna
load the box with those two dudes on the outside
and most teams just don't have that.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
They don't have to do.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
They can line up on the outside and go all right, now,
I'm gonna bring that safety down and he gonna But
you just don't have it.
Speaker 9 (22:06):
But do you need to spend that kind of money?
I think the bigger question is you spend that money
on pickings. I mean, you look, do the two Super
Bowl teams have two stud wide receivers like that?
Speaker 8 (22:16):
I mean, can you can't you win without?
Speaker 5 (22:21):
I meant, oh lord, I mean I want him back.
But I'm saying, but you understand.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Where you're coming from, and you sound logical, very very logical.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I have in order to go in order to go
ordinary like you just can't. You you can't be ordinary
on both sides of the ball, thank you. You just can't. Like, Okay, Seattle,
We're we're okay. Offensively, we have we have J and
S Jack Jackson Smith and Jigba and we're okay there.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
We're lead on We're a lead on defense. We're the best.
We're the best defensive team in the league.
Speaker 7 (22:58):
Got Sam Donald, but we got these guys on it.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
But our defense is lights out, you know what I'm saying.
And so you you you can. You can carry that
to you.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
Right right, Drake May's shortcomings because my defense is playing
lights out but being average on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
First round exit.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
You gotta you gotta, you gotta you gotta, you gotta gotta,
you gotta, you gotta pick a side to be great
on and then hope the other side is average and
that carries you. But if you're gonna, if you're gonna
get if you if you're saying, and I'm there are
scenarios where I've been on record saying I would be
okay with trading away George Pickens if it if it
(23:41):
yielded bringing back some picks, and if it got picks
and players, because I've seen this offense with CD and them, Yeah,
helped that get to second in the league and MVP
votings and still be a really a really, really really
good offense. But what ended up happened was you had
a defense and it costs you now trading away George
(24:05):
Pickers mint I was able to load up and become
elite on defense.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
Can you the way the league is starting to change now,
and it looks like there's more of a shift into
just give me a quarterback that won't throw the game away.
Can you can you still win with the with a
a really good elite offense and a mediocre defense, or
(24:31):
do you.
Speaker 7 (24:31):
Have to have those thumpers on defense?
Speaker 6 (24:34):
Because every every every defense we played that you talked
about Denver, you know, you told us what nine weeks ago,
the boys are good, you know, and then New England
and then Seattle and all these it's it's almost going
back to the old school football where you know, Trent
deal for one year Super Bowl in Baltimore, like, just
give me a.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
Guy to drive the bus, not turn the ball over.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
But more teams are realizing, Shanning and guys, what more
teams are realizing is it ain't but five or six
elite quarterbacks. So these general managers and playoff personnels are
really looking at their owners and they're fac saying, sir,
it ain't but five or six elite guys. We're gonna
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have to go a different route. We're gonna have like
like Jesse said, we're gonna build elite defense here, and
we're gonna get a guy in here that's not gonna
throw a bunch of interceptions, and we're gonna get a
very creative offensive coordinator. That's that is at a premium now.
And you notice most of the head coaches are coming
from the offensive coordinator side, because that's an elite thing
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to be creative to make to line people up so
your quarterback don't.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Have to work.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
He just come up boom, Okay, let me throw it away,
let me dump it over here, or let me just
take this sack.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
You know, so your answers are written into the question. Yes,
you know what I'm saying. Like, most quarterbacks now are
coming to a line of scrimmage and the play when
they leave the huddle, Listen, this is the route concept.
They go cover two ball, go right there. Yeah that
we we're not. Don't even play around with it.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
I don't need you to be Peyton Manning. Get up there,
and that's where it goes. And we're gonna take this
twelve yard game, this nine yard game.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Yeah, it's gonna be second and two and we're gonna
make them gonna dink and dunk and when they come
up that one time, and then I.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Just methodically wear you out throughout the game. And that's
and then you have this is where you trickle. You
trickle in those elite players where you look at a
guy like Jackson Smith and Jigba, right, but yeah, this
this route is for twelve yards. Now when Jackson catches it,
(26:43):
he gonna make him miss. Yeah, and now it's forty
like we don't have to go for all forty all
the time.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Did you see in the Rams game when it first
started against Seattle, go back and watch the first three
four plays.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
It's just what he said.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
And each one of those back rashid or whatever, they
made everybody miss, even when they was trying to jam,
they made him missing. Boom this fifty five yards first play,
next play, he walker kids shakes somebody. Every time it
was somebody making somebody miss. It wasn't no, you know,
just besides that one fifty five, everybody's making people miss.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
And that's what it's all about. That's what it's all about.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Getting that supreme athlete that with some knowledge, with some
football knowledge. All of these guys we see now either
being told exactly what to do, are smart enough to
know what to do to adjust.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
And look at Seattle, Seattle, like you look at that
passing game, right, Seattle gave you everything you would like
to have. This guy in one player right, But Seattle said, okay,
you know they made a miss. He's in trade because
they said we don't have enough down to field speed.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
No problem. Hey y'all don't want Rashisha he no more? Yeah,
no problem, will take them.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
They went and they got they had got In the
off season, the Rams told Cooper Cup you should probably retire.
They said, come on over because what you know, I
want you to put into this other kid named Jackson
Smith and Jig but who I know got got the
got the goods.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
So I got a.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Speed guy take the top off. I got another guy
to do everything that we need to do. And then
I got a grizzled VT who I know will come
up clutch whenever I'd even come up clutch third down.
But what he gonna do is what he gonna do
is he gonna look at the young boy and say,
let me tell you. Let me tell you about the
six am breakfast club, Sam Donald, Let me let me
show you what we did over in with the Rams.
(28:39):
We had a six am breakfast club. Me uh, my
other receivers and Matthew Stafford. We met every day at
six a m. So that we had everything down packed
and we got on the football field. So I'm gonna
take that incorporated with this. Coach said, I gotta, I
gotta take the top off. I got an All Pro
and then I got the grizzle vet.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Hey, Sam, just don't throw to the other team.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
We're good because each one of these guys bring a
unique skill set and we're going to exploit it in
every which way that we can. And they found themselves,
I mean Jack Smith and Jigba Has I mean all
Pro right, leading the league in receiving yards, has terrific season.
All his stuff ain't been Randy Moss mailbox, throw your
(29:23):
hand up, fifty yard post. Nope, it's been science, has
been ends, it's been posts, it's been out routes. He's
gonna he's gonna touchdown. Last week in the in the
in the conference championship game from the backfield he ran,
he ran, They ran a scissors route. He ran a corner,
he ran a post, they ran a scissors route.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Ain't nobody guard.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Him putting the dude in the backfield?
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Confusing the linebacker didn't know he went from being a receiver.
Put the dude he was a receiver. And an Safty said,
all right, we got him in coverage. He motioned into
the back of the linebacker said, wait a second, he's
a running back. Now I gotta defend him. And you
see them they look at it. They're like, wait, what's
going on here? They look at each other. Play snapped
the two safeties. What with the post route the linebacker
(30:04):
carried a vertical a little bit, was like, well he
din cover too, says back there, I'm gonna go back
and cover cover air colder route.
Speaker 10 (30:10):
You know.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
And you know the secret, you know the secret to
all of this, the biggest secret.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Nobody talks about. Who is this starting center? Who's they
starting guard? I'm talking about Seattle.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Who's they starting left tackle?
Speaker 7 (30:26):
Hm hmm.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
He just blocked people. I'm just telling you. I'm just
telling you, don't forget. Don't forget what really wins.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
Now, all right, let's take our last break. When we
come back the week but is a week and a half.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Before the Super Bowl. Who cares?
Speaker 6 (30:46):
We'll see if lady see if Nate cares or not,
and why he doesn't care.
Speaker 7 (30:51):
When we come back on hanging with the boys, be
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Speaker 6 (33:14):
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Speaker 5 (33:32):
For you, Oh big golf, sir, we say.
Speaker 8 (33:35):
Which for you? In Mexico? Team being Gold, team all
of it.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Apparently, Yeah, that's why you came over and flew.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
I know, I know it should have been team face
Masks and kept your face safe.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
Nate, Why why don't you care about play Bowl?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Shouldn't have been because I always sit there looking at
the Super Bowl for the last twenty five years saying
why didn't we.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Get that player?
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Why they can't we do that?
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Why can't we run this off this motion? Why can't
we play? So I don't care who goes this year
because I know what.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
I'm that player with us a year.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
Oh bro, we got a lot of you know what
the reassuring thing about this year is because you're right,
we usually have a lot of those questions. This year
it was we simply did not have the players on
defense to win football games.
Speaker 7 (34:26):
A lot of times, was it scheme?
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Was it?
Speaker 15 (34:28):
This?
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Was it?
Speaker 7 (34:29):
We let this guy Gord.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
He told y'all, he told y'all, he told y'all, but
he left.
Speaker 7 (34:37):
He told y'all how y'all feel about that?
Speaker 8 (34:40):
Was that a bigger loss than Parsons?
Speaker 1 (34:42):
No? No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
But honestly, like if I'm if I'm keeping it the buck,
those two couldn't exist together.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
No, they can't.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Because they were They were both alphas, and I think
they both grew because here's the thing, there's only one
real true alpha per side, like there's only one real
truth that's any team, on any team. And and when
(35:18):
either either you, you have to come to you either
have to in most cases, like in the jungle, when
the young lion challenged the old lion, you got to
just beat him out of it, or you have to
just he's old enough. He goes, I gracefully bow wow.
And And neither one of those two were willing to
do either one of those. And they both had philosophies
(35:42):
that were outside of the core concept of what they
wanted to do. Because I knew it was a rap
and shout out to I don't I don't know if
sounds of the sideline brother. They probably didn't. So I
don't want to say Alex Lily, but shout out Ali Lily.
Any he does a great job with the sounds of
the sideline. But there was that moment on the sideline
(36:04):
when Tank is sitting there and no, I'm rehashing old
stuff for people that we don't talk about anymore.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
That's no longer here.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
But there was a moment in time the sideline where
Tank was sitting down and Micah comes off the sideline,
off the field on the sideline and he's barking at
people and he's yelling at people about assignments and stuff
like that, and Tank says to him, don't yell at
them when you ain't doing what you're supposed to do.
That's when I knew, Like, that's when it was, oh,
(36:32):
this is this is over that those two can't coexist
because you have two players in their own right who
were standing ten toes down, and so you you the
locker room was divided defensively because there were there were
Tank supporters old school, there were Micah supporters. There were
(36:52):
dudes who had the belief of Tank. There were dudes
who had the belief of Micah. There were dudes you
wanted do to to do things in which the matter
of what the coach wanted to be done, they wanted
something that was going freestyle. And so when you had
all that mixing together disaster. It was what we saw.
So those two you had to get eventually get rid
(37:14):
of one of them. Now I didn't they get rid
of both of them. You like to keep one of them.
But Tank went and did his thing over there, and
ultimately Micah ended up going to do his thing over there.
Speaker 5 (37:25):
No, and and and and now you know ones at
the Super.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Bowl and then there's always that four or five players
that get way back out the way and wait to
see who win. Yeah, no, I ain't getting into that.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
I'm going on home, y'all.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
That's what they be like, You ain't. I'm right like,
hey man, y'all, y' got it, y'all got it. Hey,
I'm over here. I'm out of the hey man.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
You were right.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
Once the outpha, once the autphae comes up and dominates you,
like and I was really rolling with you.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
I didn't want to take no sob I was always
you know, human nature. You could tell who was with
who during you know, during those times, and they just
you know, and congrats to both of them. Micael got
the contract that he want. Tank is playing a Super
Bowl that he said that that's what you went to Seattle,
for so.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
You know what's amazing is we always talk about accountability.
The defensive back for Seattle, you.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Know, made the made the boo boo, Yeah was it?
Rick Woland made the bad move, which about the way
he'll be a free interest this year.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
And the cameras went immediately when he hit the sideline
and players were checking him, like, bro, you realize what you.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
What the potentially happened from this?
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Did you realize where we're at and the opportunity You
know a lot of people missed that. It wasn't no,
And I don't feel and maybe I'm not in their
locker room, but I don't feel once that was said,
it sees that was over.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
You know.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
I think the young guy said, yeah, you know, once
he thought about it. Yeah cool. You know, but when
you got people that's not gonna let you get too
far out of the line, especially when you're done jumped
across the fence, they're gonna try to get you back
as quick as possible because the game was still in there.
And you know, it's just a lot of people miss that.
To me, that's important, you know, because we had that
(39:22):
on my team. You know, when you got winning teams
and teams that are coming.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
Closer like that side left and right? Man, huh you
jumping off something. I'll messing with you.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Yeah, I was, Yeah, I was, you know, until somebody said,
hey man, that don't work no more.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
That don't work no more. And if we have to
tell you big news, it's hard to it's hard too.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
And when we break the huddle, big new, you know. Yeah,
and so I forget to play, but I eat jump offside?
Speaker 1 (39:53):
What what was?
Speaker 5 (39:54):
You're you're out next week?
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Right?
Speaker 5 (39:56):
Yes, sir?
Speaker 7 (39:57):
For what bro, I'll be a radio ro timeless. We
gotta hold it down next week. So what what what
is this week like? Next week's all business?
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Right? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (40:10):
We we today, They in this time and era, they
get so many days off. We didn't get that. You know,
we had to come in every day and do something.
You know, you would get a short day like this
weekend coming up, that's opening. You know we'll get off
early on Friday. Had to be back by one o'clock Monday.
You know you aren't gonna get four or five days off,
(40:32):
you know, you you you know you get that that
Friday evening, Like I said, about one or two you practice,
then you have to be back Monday, but you have
to work out, so you might have come in at
eight o'clock in the morning. So, uh, but you hung
out of the bit with your family. You got rid
of your tickets. That was mandatory. He did not want
back then. You know, we could bring in the man
with the suit.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
You know.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Nowadays you know you gotta just send it over the
you know, the phone.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
So but it was fun. It was fun. It was fun.
Speaker 7 (41:02):
How long were y'all How long were y'all on site?
Speaker 5 (41:05):
A week?
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Yeah, we we got We flew in that Sunday. We're
flying that Sunday.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Yeah, and have a few days of no we would
keep to know, we would keep the same schedule. We're
flying that Sunday, Monday, we would work out. Tuesday would
be off. Wednesday we've started the regular week. Jimmy like
to keep it the same all the way through. He
believed that if you stayed with the routine as close
as you could, no matter where you were, you would
(41:32):
be a better team.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
At the end of the Sunday comes.
Speaker 6 (41:35):
And the game was on Sunday late, So y'all were
there from Sunday to Sunday. Yeah, how many nights of Shenanigans.
Did you have that week?
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Was it up? Well?
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Early in the week, Coach Johnson just say, man, at
one o'clock, I've been out here about nobody on the street.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
You know where you at? After one? Who house you over?
We ain't worried about it. Just beyond the street on
the street, who you win and how many you win?
We ain't worthing.
Speaker 6 (42:05):
And what day did y'all get like super focused on
going to bed on time?
Speaker 3 (42:10):
That's shoted Wednesday. So that's shot at Wednesday, that started
Wednesday night. And he wasn't joking, man, he was He
wasn't playing. He wasn't gonna stop you from playing any
game depending on who you were. But you're gonna pay
a fine. Oh yeah, he gonna get you. Yeah shout
Eric Willims. Yeah yeah. But one thing about it, it
(42:30):
was just so much fun. It was just the whole
work week was fun. I mean, if you he coach
believed in every day had it was his own day.
Live in this day, cherish this day, Preparing each day,
you know, so we'll be better tomorrow. Prepared this day
so we'll be better the next day. Peeking for that game.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
You know, what was your favorite part of the whole
week because you were there with your guys.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Snuck out at halftime and watch Michael Jackson.
Speaker 7 (42:58):
Yeah, how many yells knock out watched?
Speaker 1 (43:01):
Just me?
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Yeah, I don't know if anybody else did, because I said,
God had these restaurant.
Speaker 7 (43:08):
How much it showed you get watched.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
I got to see a litle bit of but I
stayed too long. But you know it had to be
back they checking wait did do that?
Speaker 10 (43:16):
Man got the thrill a lot and that was the
that was was that the first I think it was
the first one, right, that was the first halftime show, right, No, I.
Speaker 8 (43:30):
Think they have nobody that big and play.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Because was that If I'm not mistaken. I was a
little bit young then, but that was the time because
in living color a year ago, they they debuted there
in living color and it stole all of narrating from
the Super Bowl. And I think the next year of
the NFL was like not this time in living color
(43:55):
and they had the grand performers production, they had the
ready to performance you know before of all time, I
think that was the first time they went to that
kind of.
Speaker 9 (44:05):
Yeah, like says here like new Kids on the Block
were ninety one, but it.
Speaker 8 (44:12):
Was Michael Jackson.
Speaker 9 (44:13):
Jackson changed the game as far as people view, making
it must see TV. That yeah, okay, I mean for
it used to be marching bands, you know, was it
really now?
Speaker 3 (44:24):
I'll tell you Son, we left our mark on every
city that we played in.
Speaker 5 (44:30):
I mean, I'm always than one.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
You know, when in Atlanta it was all about the clubs.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
It's still all about the clubs Atlanta. Except why, I
know you don't live that life no more.
Speaker 5 (44:42):
What I hear.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
We brought the limos in on on Phoenix.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
You know, Scottsdale was still like scott Stille, Scottsdale like
Scottsdale is.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
I don't know, man, but all I know is they
told those places we couldn't go, And I got a secret.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
List to every one of those places. Which one was.
Speaker 7 (45:00):
Your favorite city?
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Just uh city? Atlanta? Atlanta is the best. But at
least my wife got half.
Speaker 5 (45:12):
That's an end, Jesse. Good luck on your last two days.
Enjoy your kirt seeing in the game.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
No no, no, no, no, you do when you come home.
Speaker 6 (45:23):
What's your week looks like tomorrow? I mean next week?
Are you just on radio road the whole week?
Speaker 5 (45:27):
Whole week Monday, Monday, we leave Friday.
Speaker 6 (45:29):
Producers just grabbing folks and bringing them on the air.
That'll be so much fun.
Speaker 5 (45:32):
I hate it, do you I hate Radio Row?
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Why?
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Because it is a It is an you be hustling
crap show. You be hustling, hustling, Oh dag.
Speaker 7 (45:41):
You have to hustle to or eat your producers.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
If he wants somebody real bad man, because if they're
not on the list, and you know, I'm like, hey,
you know, if Michael Ever walks by, he on our
list and he you know, Mike, come on, bro, give me.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Go out there.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
And you know, thank god we got Clarence who knows
a gang of people. But I mean I have former
teammates and people that I know by the time, they're like, hey, man,
typing is some of those contacts. And you want to
make sure that you do this because Folks is paying
shout the fabletics. Folks is paying for you to go
and all that kind of stuff. So you would have
had the numbers up. Know how you get those numbers up.
You got to have people out there, so you know,
(46:20):
that always comes back on you because if you don't
get the numbers right and everything ain't right.
Speaker 7 (46:23):
Who's your biggest guest to own on your list right now?
Speaker 5 (46:26):
You know, I haven't seen the list. You know, I
haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 7 (46:28):
Make sure make sure you give us a good report
when you come back.
Speaker 5 (46:31):
And yeah, I will, I will.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
That'd be fun.
Speaker 7 (46:33):
It'd be fun.
Speaker 5 (46:34):
I mean, yeah, it's and it was twenty people. It's
just my anxieties way up here. I'll be ready to go,
I mean.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
And I'm not good with being you know what I'm saying,
because sometimes people say no and get out of here.
Speaker 5 (46:48):
I ain't.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
I don't. I don't.
Speaker 5 (46:50):
I don't fear too well.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
No, No, I don't fare too well with being like
blatantly dissed to my face.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
I don't like.
Speaker 6 (46:56):
I don't when you go out, when you leave Sunday, Sunday,
and then you come back Friday, Friday. All right, we
have a safe trip off the shift, Nate. Good seeing
all you guys. Chris, thanks for keeping us on the air.
Speaker 4 (47:08):
We'll be back.
Speaker 7 (47:09):
I guess the three of us next Thursday. You in town.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
Yeah, yeah, and we'll call it. You know, no, I
call it I calling.
Speaker 7 (47:17):
You're doing the show next Thursday, Kurt, Let's do the show.
Speaker 6 (47:21):
Next Thursday time, same place, pre Super Bowl show.
Speaker 7 (47:25):
Good seeing you fellas, we'll see you. I know I'll
do it again.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Yeah we spread, we spreading do Mexican floor around now all.
Speaker 7 (47:33):
Right, Well see next week.
Speaker 5 (47:33):
Hang with the boys.
Speaker 13 (47:35):
This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and
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