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Speaker 1 (00:02):
The following is the production of Dallascowboys dot Com and
the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Cowboys blowing out of the backfield, sick flowing down the sideline.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
This is Hanging with the Boys now, Your hosts.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon.
Speaker 5 (00:27):
Gross looking live at Tostitos Championship Plas outside Ford Center
at the Star in Frisco, Texas, where a lot of
tours going on today, a lot of action out here.
It's fifty eight degrees. The highest sixty one. The low
is thirty five.
Speaker 6 (00:45):
That is Shenna's little shirt Gross, Nate Newt World Champion.
This is Kurt one pump Daniels because two pumps will
get you a fine in the back keepers live but local.
It is Chris Beam. I am Salt and Pepper Poppy.
Together we make Hanging with the Boys. The sports Tuggle
pipling the bill people when we speak.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Wingstop is here.
Speaker 7 (01:09):
Over the place.
Speaker 6 (01:09):
It's probably because a lot of you know, high school
playoffs going on right now. Everybody's coming all in town,
in town at the college.
Speaker 8 (01:16):
Game here last night. I don't know if they're still around.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah, big game at the big Arkansas state?
Speaker 7 (01:21):
Really?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Where was that at at the store?
Speaker 7 (01:23):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Here here at xbox?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Xbox?
Speaker 8 (01:27):
Really?
Speaker 7 (01:28):
How did I not know this?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Who's like the tree tonight? Is this the last one
you got tonight? Tomorrow night?
Speaker 9 (01:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:35):
You know who it is?
Speaker 8 (01:37):
Find out.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I don't know what be on top of a Kurt.
Speaker 8 (01:40):
I didn't sho know.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
All the things happening at the stars. It is everything
after the star. We're not in this building. We don't
sit with the marketing department.
Speaker 7 (01:50):
Why are you attacking?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I don't know Friday? You got look at you back?
I just feel like dishing some out. Bring it back,
Kurt with it.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Let's take some phone calls eight eight eight eight five
five When two nine seven?
Speaker 7 (02:04):
Dad?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
How do you say his last name?
Speaker 8 (02:06):
When? When do you have Geena and Jerry Jones tomorrow?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I heard of them last one.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
I've heard of one of Kurt. You're not gonna play
with my boy boy. You're not gonna play with him
like he's not gonna snap back at you. You only
take that from one person, the wife.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yeah, I like your hat.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
Thank you man. I've been nice?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Have you been good? That's what it says.
Speaker 6 (02:37):
That's what it says.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
What it says, I've been good.
Speaker 7 (02:39):
Oh, I've been good.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Next week, what does the show schedule like, Chris, Monday
and Tuesday only Friday, right, are we doing Friday?
Speaker 6 (02:48):
We're doing all right.
Speaker 10 (02:49):
Next week's schedule is Monday and Tuesday only.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Then we got Christmas.
Speaker 10 (02:55):
I'll be going on Christmas in Washington travel day of
Christmas Eve, Christmas and Friday.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Friday is a day off, just a gift.
Speaker 8 (03:04):
Uh well, good folks who have to work Thursday.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Yeah, we got the Friday off, so two days next week,
so that is correct. You have any if anybody in
the building wants to bring us Christmas gifts, bring him
Monday or Tuesday. Walk theme on down, walk him down
the hall. So all right, so let's get this. How
you doing, Nate Jesse?
Speaker 7 (03:25):
Good as Kurt.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I didn't ask you.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Guys, Well, you know you went at Kurt and you've
trying to apologize, so you better try to make friends.
Speaker 7 (03:31):
But before you get on, you so let it kirk.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Kurt said that Kurt got little dog get him. I'm
telling you, cush him all the way to the edge.
But when he snapped, I bet he snaps it.
Speaker 6 (03:43):
That's it. That's this is the kind of guys who
don't want silent assassin kurtse the kind of guy that
he tries to like de escalate the guys. Come on, guys, no,
I don't want to do that. Let's just let's just
all we're all a little bit heated, a little bit,
so we said something that we don't mean, and you
keep pushing them.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
And then and then and then the folks got to
call him down.
Speaker 7 (04:01):
It's over.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
It's been three weeks, y'all. The promise the folks on
the phone that y'all wait.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
On Chris to say, I got a call, I got
a call. Put we got Roger. He's in Seattle, Washington.
Speaker 11 (04:16):
The greetings, thanks so much for let me call in.
Love the show, always tune in every day.
Speaker 12 (04:23):
Uh.
Speaker 11 (04:23):
One of my favorites, Uh wine love Nate Newton, put
him in the Hall of Fame, Love Big Nate, Jesse Holly,
one of my favorites. Uh to Pump Kirk, Uh love
everybody on the show. I wanted to give one pump
to will get your flag for Jesse Holly. I wanted
to give two shout outs. Uh absolutely genius takes that
(04:45):
he gave one of them is a little bit oldie
but giddy. But I didn't get a chance to call in.
Uh so genius take. That is a little bit older.
Uh way back when when certain unnamed people were talking
about perhaps firing other radio personalities.
Speaker 13 (04:58):
Uh.
Speaker 11 (04:59):
Jesse Holly said attitude reflects leadership as a reflex to
some of the contests on the team. Oh my goodness, Mike,
Mike drop of the century, one of the best takes
ever for mister Holly. And then more recently, just after
the Packers and Cowboys tie, I remember Jesse took a
(05:21):
lot of time saying that was the moment they should
have played for the win. You do not play for
ties like, Hey, Dak Prescott is a way better quarterback
than Sam Darnold. I think we all would agree, Hey,
this is our sixty million dollar guy win the game.
After seeing yesterday, I totally understand brilliance from mister Jesse Holly,
(05:42):
fourth and long man.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
That check is on the mail, brother, I'm telling you, man.
Speaker 14 (05:47):
What I would.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
That check is in the mail, baby, That check is
in the mail. It's coming to Seattle overnight on putting
that checks mail to you. Being I had a call
a call here and say those things about me in
seven years. But your check is on the bill, your
your check is on the way.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Do we cut him off?
Speaker 7 (06:07):
Chris?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Yeah? I got the next caller.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
A good glazer. Y'all cut him off.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
That's Chris, that's your boy in the back.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
Christ I mean we will let dudes sit on his phone,
hold on eight minutes, talk with nothing but white noise
in the background.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Quick, one guy gives Jesse a compliment. Chris got him off.
Speaker 15 (06:30):
We gonna let him say on all day. We gotta
get him in and out. Right, man, you gotta get
the store. Hurry up with the store. Okay, now we
know the rules. Now there's a rule.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Well, Chris, you tell them the rules before you get
them on the air if you're gonna do them dirty
like that.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
All right, Well here's the rule.
Speaker 6 (06:47):
Hey, Roger Man.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I appreciate you, Roger, We appreciate the great suggestion.
Speaker 7 (06:52):
But you next time leave room for your score.
Speaker 8 (06:54):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
I'm gonna give Roger incomplete.
Speaker 15 (06:56):
I see you know Roger was going for the on
this one.
Speaker 7 (07:01):
Okay, I get you another one in Yeah, we got
another one.
Speaker 9 (07:04):
Boy.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
We got our boy Antoine and Maryland.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
He's gonna be quick.
Speaker 14 (07:08):
Oh yeah, boy, what's up, guys.
Speaker 16 (07:10):
Hey, So even though we're not making the playoffs, Man,
if I got to give out an MVP of the season,
I'm giving it to Jerry Jones, because no matter how
hard I try not to fall for it, he always
reeled me back there. Man, I'm back to wearing my hat,
I'm wearing my jersey and everything, thinking we had a chance,
no matter how hard I fought against him.
Speaker 14 (07:28):
Man, but he got me. Man, he do it every
time my score I say, we lose. Thirty one seventeen,
we lose, and we gonna end it like that, you
know what I mean? Thirty one seventeen. Man, we ain't
a Marion. Have to gonna get off on us and
uh and I think keenan Ale are gonna have a
pretty good game.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
All right, all right, man, thank you for the Christmas brother,
Merry Christmas.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Since you such a fan of mister Jones, come watch
him like the tree tomorrow night. There, come on down
fly this. Plenty of room, be plenty of room out there.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
The weather's nice and we're going to really have a
seventy degree day on Christmas.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
And I can't wait. I hope so I love it.
Do you really listen guys, you can keep that from
Jersey that you have weather crack like Christmas. That is,
that is you don't have to it is. That's a ten.
I want wool Weather.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I know you don't like coach you.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
I'll take a Bahamas Christmas any.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
You ain't in the Bahamas, you Texas?
Speaker 6 (08:31):
That's okay, right about you?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Where'd you get seventh?
Speaker 8 (08:34):
Yeah from I'll take the warm the nice seventy.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Really, I think it's supposed to be seventy.
Speaker 10 (08:40):
I'm looking at this for Harris. It's fifty two thirty six.
Oh that's FedEx Field.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
You would I'm you're the wrong place, in the wrong spote.
It's gonna be eighty on Tuesday seventy six, on Wednesday
seventy five, on Thursday seventy seven, on Friday. Yeah, that's
a merry Christmas boy. Yeah, man, put me on some
T shirt.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Man, I'm happy.
Speaker 8 (09:02):
Man.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Well, before we go to break, see if I can
depress us all some injury news, right, yeah, mister Bland. Yeah,
it seems like what two three years ago, we were
solid at cornerback, we had some depth at cornerback, We
had our hairs grabbing you in the lunch room going, well,
we got us another one.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
I see you. You got to see me. He lied
to me, you got to see me. That was a lot,
he said. He said, we got another one, got another one.
Speaker 7 (09:30):
But we thought we it was a memo that came
with that.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
He has to be attached to him.
Speaker 7 (09:35):
Okay, look at what you're right. You're right?
Speaker 6 (09:39):
Okay, Nate, Okay, I give you that.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Hey, good point.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
Has Nate cut you some bell?
Speaker 7 (09:45):
Brother?
Speaker 5 (09:46):
You have to see me, but cut you be so
now the question is foot injury right?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Curring recurring foot injury?
Speaker 6 (09:57):
I'm hearing this is I'm not I'm not a medical expert.
I'm not a trainer. I did stay at a motel six.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
Okay, well he did use their parking lot. But I do.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
And I will eat their breakfast. You should too.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
I think they have breakfast.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
They're having to go in and replace the screw. This
is the same foot that he hurt a year ago.
Speaker 7 (10:25):
So the.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
Rumor, the Reckie Speccy is that he has to go
back in and get that screw replaced as the screw
is giving them an issue.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
So I'm not the smartest person.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
We know that podcast, but you kind of need good
feet to be a cornerban, right, and then you got
some you got some drama going on with the other
cornerback and in your backup hasn't looked as advertised. Right,
So now does this become another position of need in
an already deep position of need on defense draft? You
(11:00):
need safety help, linebacker help, now you need cornerback help.
You can always use defensive line help, like is this
where does this rank?
Speaker 7 (11:09):
Now?
Speaker 6 (11:10):
Before we answer that question, I want to you you
made a statement before we got fully into this topic,
and I think it's critical because you just said. You said, man,
about a year or two ago, we thought that we
have the like the best defensive back room in the
in the league, right, and that goes to show you
that this whole well, boy, when we bring all this
(11:31):
back next year, it's going to be this. There is
no next year. You can't bank on things working in
your favor next year because we thought the same thing.
We thought that we we got two cornerbacks who we're
gonna want to be just cornerstone dudes for the next
three to five years, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
And that's what we're thinking about offense now, right right,
next year, we're good.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
Next week well, next year we're going to be And
now those two dudes, in the three years that they
have been and with the Cowboys, have played seven total
games together. And now we're talking about a position that
just a year or two ago we thought we had
lockdown and solidified to hold us down for the next.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Three to five year setting records.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
And now you're looking at it and saying that Christmas
list is getting long. Now we need safeties, we need
two corners, we need another corner, you know, we need linebackers,
we need rush ins. Like that list just keeps getting
longer and longer and longer. And that's why you know
we talk about well next year, well next year or
next year. There is no guarantee. There is no guarantee
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somebody gets something fixed this year. You think, oh, they're
gonna be fine next year. There is this. This is
a one hundred percent hurt business. It's not a matter
of if, just a matter of when. And then there's
the degree, the degree in which that hurt comes in.
This is not a promise thing. Man. From one year
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to the next. Your quarterback knock On Wood with three
games left has been healthy this year, you don't know
if that's gonna be the same thing next year, or
another player or another group of players, or another rash
of injuries that you may have on either side of
the ball. So that's why, man, when you have a
chance to win games and when they matter, when they matter,
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to get yourselves in the position to go and try
to win a championship, it is paramount that you really
push all the cards on the table if you have
the opportunity to, because next year is not promised, and
now it could be people that walking and say, well
glass half full, Well next year everything will go on
our favorite and it quite possibly may. But you just
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look at situations like this, when we thought that we
got it. We are set at corner, we got a
dude who intercepts the ball. We got another dude who
takes the ball back to the house. We are good.
Speaker 8 (13:58):
And now we're like, you think that's been a problem
for this organization, Like relying on hope, hope these guys
will come back injury and be good, hope that this
guy's a bounce back season.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
No, I think that's I think that's a league. Why
I think it's a league. Why I think everybody hopes,
Like I can tell you right, now and and it
sucks that he got hurt, but the Packers will look
up and if they don't win a championship this year,
they'll say, Man, I hope that we get Michael Parsons
back next year at some point in time, healthy enough
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for the stretch run.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
For us to go pursue.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Do you think this is kind of follow up to
your question?
Speaker 5 (14:34):
Do you guys think or is this a league wide
deal as well that when we when we have a
good solid position player, we don't go for depth at
those positions and go more for other.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
Solid We never go We have always been a top
heavy We've always been a top heavy team.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Is that specific to us or is that a league
wide That's.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
What I'm not saying. It's it's not an overall league
wide think.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
It's a philosophy.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
You watch the good teams, there's depth in those teams.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Go lot, look at Denver team and look how these
guys are signed. Uh just look at you know, uh.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
Detroit, another depth team. I mean that there's teams that
who who project depth.
Speaker 8 (15:20):
Baltimore have a top heavy salary.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Cap that limits you, man, and then during the season
more than justice point when when a player is out there. Okay,
if we need that player, we never get that player
because we don't have the money. Uh, we're not willing
to spend the money. We you know, it ain't my money.
(15:45):
But you you you're talking about winning.
Speaker 10 (15:48):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
With Jesse said, I just want to you better draft
the best available player because our offensive line is no
better than our corner I say, our secondary. They were
all hurt, never got to play together, and now once
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we see them for two or three games, they ain't
the guys we thought they were due to the fact
that no continuity. Uh, some of them may be just
not good enough. We don't know that yet. I mean
a few of them we do, but a lot of
them we don't. And the longer this thing go and
and and we don't change the way we do business,
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it's gonna get it's gonna get ugly. It's not gonna
get better for us. It's gonna get uglier because you
can't have eight guys with ninety five percent of your
Sarah cap. You got and that's where depth come in at.
That's where you got to go out draft a guy
that is healthy, that has not had a career college
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field with injuries, go out and draft. A, Hey, this
is a third round pick. This is what we projected
him at. This is what he is. We didn't have
to reach for him. This is who he is. He's healthy,
he's ready to come in. That's inserting. Let's make sure
he get the reps he need. Saying with our first
round pick, saying with our second round pick. I just
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don't understand unless you are filled with top quality starters,
how you're first and second and third round. Don't dominate
your rosters. If you're gonna build through the draft. And
these guys when they walk on the field, when they
get off the bus, off the plane, and off the uber,
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however they get here, they need to be walking onto
the field. OTA's rookie, Minnie Camps. These is the starters.
If you're gonna go through the draft, if you're gonna
use free agency, maybe you can, you can have a
little competition thing. But if you're gonna use the draft
as your main goal, you gotta be hitting. You do
not get an opportunity to say, well, he didn't work out. No,
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this is how you do it. You want to pay
overpay your top notch players. You got the draft. That's
and that's why I've been saying the year in, the
year out, why is this guy not starting? We don't
go to the normal route. We don't play the free
agency game. If you don't play the free agency game,
every guy you bring in here by trade or by draft.
(18:27):
That's why the mango I want to pronounce it, mingo.
Why was it he not playing within the first three
or four weeks when we gave up a four for him.
You traded for him. He's been in the league. You
should know what he can and cannot do. You got
professionals over there looking at this kid and asserted him
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if you just bought him here to say, oh, we
just want to take a look at him for next year.
Speaker 7 (18:53):
It's there, Jesse James Flank. There's no next year. It's now.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
It's unfortunately you can prolongate e double dash, but it's coming.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Might be coming Saturday. Well take our first break when
we come back. More phone calls eight eight eight eight,
five five two two nine seven, score predictions later and
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All right, let's go back to the phones.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Chris.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Who we got? We got Lester? He is in Minnesota, Lester,
we already know how you became a cowboy fans.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
I bet you, I bet you will be seven eight
in Minnesota. Thank oh Christmas.
Speaker 19 (22:00):
Hey man, I like the snow and everything. Man, that's
where I live up there. Nobody I like it.
Speaker 13 (22:08):
Man.
Speaker 19 (22:08):
I've been in the Midwest my whole life. Born in
New York, raised up in the Midwest. Love it. But anyway,
I want to say the Nate man, dude, everything you
just said. Man, I've been saying for forever. I mean,
when we draft those hurt players, those are in the
second and third round, those are potential starters. Man, you
you don't need to say, Okay, they may play this
(22:31):
shear next year whatever. I mean, if you look at
the morale of the team, the team looking for help,
you know, the team that's coming back, and they're like,
oh man, this guy can't help us. So you know,
we got to do it on our own. Although they
will do it, of course, but it's still it's a
sort of morale thing as well. When you're drafting these
hurt players and the team says you know, the players
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amongst the locker room say privately, man, this guy can't
help us whatever. But anyway, man, hey, Cowboys by one.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Go Cowboys, Cowboys by one.
Speaker 7 (23:08):
Thank you, Lester.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
That's a way to do it.
Speaker 8 (23:09):
Lester, sounds like Cowboys don't have a second and third
round pick this year, so.
Speaker 7 (23:17):
So wet gotta worry about that traffic. I just believe
this right here you got.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
If you have a theory, whether I believe it's wrong
or right, or whoever believe is wrong or right.
Speaker 7 (23:32):
Each theory has its consequences.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
If you're a free agent guy and you're a that
type of team that hey, we'll address our biggest issues
in free agent, that means you're finished. Spend some money,
and that means you may be finish, get ready to overpay.
But these guys that you're getting, one thing you have
to do is say this is what he does best.
You're not trying to change that. That's what you're paying for,
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and that's what you have to accept. But if you're
talking about drafting somebody and developing somebody and talking about
the first, second or third round, your first round of
got to start. He can't unless let's say a healthy
Philadelphia offensive line and they say, the best guy on
our board is an offensive line. Well, he may not
come in there and start, but if you're the Dallas Cowboys,
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this guy gotta start, and he's got we got to
go through these growing pains.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
You know. It's just that's just how it goes.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Because you can't wait till this guy get until his
third year saying.
Speaker 7 (24:29):
Oh we better see Kenny play. That's a waste.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
So each whatever your method, whatever your theory is, it's
some consequences come to that, and you have to be
willing to do that.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
You know. That's like bringing Quinn Williams in half. You know,
gave up two picks.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Two first round picks, saying well, we're gonna give him
drop twenty five plays a game. How does that make sense?
How does that make it? Don't you got to play Quinny?
You got to and you know what you're getting, so
you you got to shape things around him.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
You know, you can't come in and say, hey man,
I want you to play this certain way right here.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
That's like the guy that got hurt with Green Bay.
They took him and enhanced him. They enhanced this the
way they used him versus how we used him, they
enhanced him. So you know who a guy is depending
on how you get them and how you receive them.
If you bring in a guy that's you pulled up
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from the second round and make him a first round
and then say he ain't ready to play, why did
you draft it?
Speaker 7 (25:31):
You should have got him at that second round position.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
If a guy is injured and I mean really really hurt,
I'd rather lose him than to lose him on a
first or second or third round. Hey, bro, love you
catch you in free agency once you learn. Like Jesse
said the other day, was so right.
Speaker 7 (25:52):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
We don't need rookie linebackers. We don't need a first
round linebacker or second round linebacker.
Speaker 7 (25:59):
We need it a real veteran.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
So we might spend a little extra money to get
a real bulldog linebacker. Because linebackers, you want them to
be savvy. You don't want them learning correct absolutely, So
it's it's consequences to what you do.
Speaker 7 (26:17):
Uh, I'm gonna leave that alone.
Speaker 8 (26:22):
You know, earlier in the year, especially the defensive line
was getting criticized, and the secondary has been criticized all
year long. Is the real problem with this defense? The linebackers.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
It is one of the yes, yes, yes, and it's
it's a it's a it's one of those things that
it's a domino effect because good linebackers are the ones
that a good defensive line keep clean. It's when it's
and Nate knows this all too well. You hear Nick
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talk about like you know, a deuce or dual block
or you know what I'm saying. It's when if Nate
can get to that second level right away. Now, that
linebacker at two hundred and forty five fifty pounds got
to deal with a dude who's three hundred, who is
now already left a lot of scrimmage, has gotten to
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the second level. And if it's run right, that running
back as soon as Nate gets close enough to that linebacker,
that running back's coming right off his tail. So either
you gonna run right ato three hundred pounds or I'm
gonna get my hands on you and move you out
the way. And that running backs cutting right off off
my tail up the field.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
So if you guess and guess wrong, like a young
man did, it's.
Speaker 7 (27:39):
To the house right.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
And so it's a it's a problem, but it's also
a part of the bigger problem. You know, these guys
are going in the wrong direction, but a lot of
times they're also having to deal with not being clean,
not being able to diagnose and then deliver downhill.
Speaker 8 (27:55):
Iber Fliss said a quote yesterday. It kind of surprised me, said,
the mic linebacker is driving the car. That's a big
part of it. And they're doing a good job of
that this week, being decisive with their communication. And it's
kind of like this. You know, we're fifteen weeks in
or whatever, but it's just now, and I mean it
ext me.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
Wonder is that do what you gotta do, Matt. Let
these folks know. Man, keep with the positivity, Matt ebra
flu don't let them, don't let nobody send you to
to your room. Don't don't let them send you to
your room. Even though you gotta go to your room.
They just sent you to the room. You keep that positivity,
Matt Ebraflus just surprised me to Yeah, you keep that
at even Flus. You keep that Christmas positive energy, Matt,
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Matthew Eberflus, You keep that positivility.
Speaker 9 (28:40):
Brother.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
I had a question when Nate was talking, and before
Nate stopped talking, I answered my own question.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
In my head.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Let me see if you guys can answer my question.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
Before I asked the question, Nate was talking about when
you draft a guy in the first round to start,
and in my head, I was like, Okay, we always preach.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Take the best.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
Player possible, right right, And my question that was formulating
in my head was what if you take the best
player possible, but you have someone that's already a starter
that he would have to take the place of Can
you answer my question for me?
Speaker 6 (29:29):
That used to be old school football, like think about
like quarterbacks. They used to draft the quarterback's successor and
have them sit right for a year or two to
learn how to be a professional. Practice habits, study, habits,
hearing the offense, all that kind of stuff, old clipboard,
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and then you move into that spot. The answer your
question is.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
I have the answer. I just want to know if
y'all are thinking of it the same that I'm thinking
of it.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
The guy has to be good enough, like the guy
in front of him has to be good enough, right.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
And then my answer to myself before I asked the
question was there's only maybe two spots on this whole
team you couldn't draft somebody that you should be grade
a talent that wouldn't be a starter on this team.
There's nobody that there's nobody if you draft somebody in
the top fifteen of this draft, that you couldn't sit
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the person that's starting at that position right now and go,
this guy's there's.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Maybe three guards, four your quarterback, quarter guards, a couple
guys on defensive line. Now maybe yeah, you're wide receiver.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
So if you're taking best player possible, there's really nobody
with elite talent.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
In front of him at any position.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
Right, they'll have their full complement of player like they can't.
They shouldn't be able to go wrong with these first
round picks because you need it everywhere, right, and that everywhere.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
That's scary.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
So when you when you when you hear these draft gurus,
and I'm not knocking nobody, they have to have their
opinions because that's what they're paid for. But fans, listen, no,
asinine please this once. Please listen to me. You need
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everyverything you need.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
Ass I'm serious.
Speaker 7 (31:22):
I'm trying to plead to these people. I'm trying. I'm serious.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Every year there's only maybe twelve to fifteen true first
grade first rounders, and then you got guys that at
the bottom of the barrel are guys that are second
round guys in the middle, and then you know, and
now you start evening out when you get in the
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middle of the second round where the players start. You know, hey,
this guy, that guy don't matter.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
Do not be fooled.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
You know when you hear one of these great guys
that do the draft say hey, well this is the
you know, this is the that's who they like. You know,
I wish we could have the mind to get into
Will McLay because that them people may not ain't be
thinking that way.
Speaker 7 (32:11):
It's gonna be a lot of players out.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
There, but it's gonna be about ten to fifteen true
first rounders. And if one of those ten to fifteen
true first rounders dropped to you like CD Lamb did,
or like Michael Parson did, do not hesitate.
Speaker 7 (32:30):
You know, I don't care who you is. Finna get
get hey.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Man, that's our got hey, that's our got.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
Get him with the second verson bru get him with
any pick you can get him with.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Because just like Jesse said, tomorrow is not promised.
Speaker 7 (32:49):
And if you're not drafting.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Good healthy, clean, football loving people. You're doing yourself an
injustice over the lawe hall. You're doing yourself an injustice
over the long haul, because at any moment, you can
go from we got to overflow to man, we even
we don't even have a position now. We don't have corners.
(33:15):
We don't We got safeties, but they're one dimensional safety.
We got safeties, you know, but they're one dimensional. We
got linebackers, you know, and they we got linebackers, we
got they're humans.
Speaker 7 (33:28):
Yeah, they're humans.
Speaker 6 (33:29):
They're humans.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Yeah. All right, let's take our last break. When we
come back, a couple more phone calls and score predictions
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Speaker 2 (35:57):
Yes, bro, we're gonna work on that because I get
these things and don't even know how to implement them.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
You know, we'll do it after the show.
Speaker 7 (36:03):
Look at him? Look at wow. Man is getting terrible.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
We already went through who we think is going to
be open twenty four to seven earlier in the week,
and who was that? Jesse said, uh, the what's the
guy's name?
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Wwenton Johnson. But may not catch, but he will agent
I mean zero, He will be open.
Speaker 7 (36:24):
Just may come after you.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Maybe hit him in there.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
He's gonna come after you.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
They come out with me, you know, I talked to
Agent zero and uh, right before this past game.
Speaker 7 (36:33):
You know, I told him, I said, brother, you just
keep doing what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Get through this season, man, and don't throuse your love
for the game. It's round when you see a young man,
I mean love the game.
Speaker 7 (36:46):
I mean, I don't know who told me this.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Maybe you told me just where even Uh he said
he wasn't gonna propose to his girl until less he
could bend his knee, you know, coming back off the injury.
You know, so setting those markers, yes, Marcus for himself,
and I'm saying to myself, everything, everything is tied to
the game. I remember I used to go talk to
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the boys like Jess do now, and I guess they
banned me because I wasn't because I was too crazy.
I used to tell them cats man, and I'll tell
them now. And I tell you all you guys that's
in college now says y'all getting paid. Don't base everything
(37:30):
around football. That is first and foremal I'm talking about
the guys that getting paid, not you guys that ain't
good enough. Y'all got to do your scholarship work, make
sure you go to class. But you guys, that's getting
paid and thank you going to the pros. Hey, base
everything off of football, Your girlfriend, your school, how you
(37:52):
treat your parents. Base everything off football. No pregnancies, no marriages,
not doing football season. We ain't doing nothing that ain't
pertaining to football. That is what it is. Football pays everything,
everything for everybody, Mama, daddy, brother, sister, homeboys that's been
(38:14):
hanging on to your sister. They realized you could do
it better than them. Base everything. They won't be mad
at you because they want that yet too, So base
everything on football. They stopped me from going over that. No, No,
I've had dudes come from I work with.
Speaker 7 (38:31):
Hey, man, I got my wedding hold ain't that's the
day before the game. Yeah, man, but that's what she wanted. Bro.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Tell her, no, see what she's gonna do, and better
still get that agreement. Oh what agreement you're talking about.
It's called pre nup and that I see when she
really loves you.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Hey, babe, here's a pre nup.
Speaker 7 (38:49):
I ain't marry you.
Speaker 6 (38:50):
You gotta marry because you love me.
Speaker 7 (38:52):
Well, you ain't married because you love me?
Speaker 6 (38:55):
Come on, God, thoughts and views not reflect.
Speaker 7 (39:01):
I don't have.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
All that bad I went, Yes.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Chris, let's try to get to these two phone calls
into the show. Who we got? All we got? Bruce,
He's in Houston, Bruce.
Speaker 7 (39:23):
What's up?
Speaker 9 (39:25):
Hey?
Speaker 12 (39:25):
Good, Thanks for taking my call, Nate Man. Sound like
you're doing some confession there, buddies.
Speaker 7 (39:31):
Yeah, I should have got that free up on the
pro Oh.
Speaker 12 (39:35):
I agree with you, Nate. They are to they are
to marry you because they love you better or worse
as a as.
Speaker 9 (39:41):
A scripture worse.
Speaker 12 (39:43):
Okay, go ahead, Well, but thanks for the insight you
guys give to the game. I really enjoyed listen to
all you and that's why I say I agree with you, Nate.
Your first rounder he needs to start. You shouldn't be
drafting him, in my opinion. And it seems like Dallas
is in the last two times. Guidon might make it,
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but it's like they reached from the guy you know.
And then the second rounder is either injured like you
guys said, and then and then it that's where you've
got to build your roster from if you're not going
to be heavy and free agency rebel may They said
he was going to be a potential number one pick
had he not got hurt. So you know, the story's
still out on I'm glad he's getting to play now
because this is like his preseason, if you will, so
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hopefully we'll be better next year. I do think they
are going to get eliminated. I just can't see Washington
being silly. But and if they do, do you guys think.
I know they talked about Prescott and the starter's playing,
but to me, I wouldn't want to risk that injury
since you've got so much invested in him. You know,
let Milton play, let some of the other backups play
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to and of course the young secondary play. So see
what we have with them, because I do think whether
he's in the booth or on the field, Eberfuse, you
go to adapt, whether it's zone or man, you know,
change with what your players are and instead of them
adapting to your system. But I think they're going to
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go in another direction. Defensive coordinator is what I would do,
but I hate to do that four years in a row.
But I think Scottie shot he's doing a really good
job building the culture. But it always seems like we
have a good offense and a crappy defense or vice versa.
Through the years and if we ever get the two together,
it's it's gonna be off.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Yes, sir, what you got?
Speaker 7 (41:31):
What you score?
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (41:33):
I look, uh doubt Dallas is gonna lose. I don't
think they scored twenty four points thirty four to twenty
four Chargers. Good show, guys.
Speaker 5 (41:45):
I appreciate Bruce. Thanks for the insight, Chris. Let's get
to the next one real quick. Who we got telling
them to be faster?
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Be fast, Arthur, be fast Arthur in spring?
Speaker 9 (41:54):
What's going on doing them? And let you be a
few of prisons because I'm hanging with the balls. I'm
gonna say this real, real quick. Did any of us
really expect to come in and roll into the playoffs
this year? We got a new head coach, we got
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a defensive coordinator that the head coach didn't really even want.
He got picked by upper management. That being said, Cowboys
will lose Thisson by seven. I love my bars, but
I gotta be a realist. If we get lucky enough
to win one, possibly two games out of the next three,
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I will be surprised. But at least we didn't. Thank
Thank you, brothers.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
Appreciate it, bunch, appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (42:44):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (42:44):
That's the way to do it. Get in, get out.
Give you a score, Jesse, what's your stat of the
week this week?
Speaker 6 (42:49):
So my stat of the week. I told you guys
this earlier this week that the Cowboys we talked about
the passing game of the Chargers. But I believe that
what's the head coach nam John Harbaugh, Jim Harble, and
Greg Roman. They're gonna want to be a physical, physical
running group. And so with the combination of Vadell and Hampton,
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that running back group, if they rush combined for over
one hundred and fifty yards, it's gonna be a long,
long day for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
Yeah, fifty or more.
Speaker 5 (43:25):
Georgia's man, all right, Nate, what you're feeling on the game.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
What's your score?
Speaker 7 (43:30):
Real quick?
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Like, if the hardballs and they're and mentor can stop
you from running, we're in trouble because they have seventeen picks.
They want you to throw the ball there. You know,
they trying to stop you from running it. And if
that happens, I'm long on Jesse. That's gonna be ugly.
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I'm telling you so, Cowboys. Half a point?
Speaker 5 (43:55):
That was half a point, Kurt, Yeah, spread as Cowboys are.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
They're giving up two and a half.
Speaker 8 (44:06):
Yeah, I've seen bad in one and a half, so yeah,
I mean the Chargers are rolling.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
How are the Chargers getting two and a half?
Speaker 8 (44:15):
They're getting one and a half. Now it's dropped a
little bit, but still I guess because.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
How are the Chargers getting any points?
Speaker 8 (44:21):
We're home?
Speaker 5 (44:22):
I guess how are the Chargers getting any points?
Speaker 8 (44:25):
I don't know, but I think after the last two weeks,
Cowboys are kind of struggling, So I think Chargers are
probably gonna come out of Chargers still have a lot
to play for. They're still got to shot out of
the division and they haven't wrapped up. They'll make the playoffs,
but they haven't sealed it yet, so they're not backing
off any So yeah, I think they'd be Chargers.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
You know, and remember that we were the Cowboys. Now,
whether we good or bad, they coming.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Twenty eight twenty one? All right, Chris, what you got?
Speaker 7 (44:54):
All right?
Speaker 13 (44:55):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (44:55):
Pick a year nineteen twenty two or twenty three?
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Did twenty two twenty two to ten?
Speaker 7 (45:03):
Cowboys?
Speaker 3 (45:04):
Let's go.
Speaker 8 (45:06):
The last time the Cowboys have beat the Chargers at home.
Speaker 10 (45:11):
Rookie rookie year, the last time the Chargers have beat what.
Speaker 8 (45:18):
The last time the Cowboys have beat the Charges at home?
Speaker 7 (45:21):
It was image rookie year and I don't know about that.
And I gained he to gain two yards?
Speaker 3 (45:25):
Check it out and he gained two yards.
Speaker 7 (45:26):
Okay.
Speaker 10 (45:27):
The whole game was ten twenty nine, twenty three at Dallas.
Dallas won forty three to twenty in front of ninety
three thousand.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
That was two years ago. You shure, I'm reading the
Cowboys all right?
Speaker 7 (45:40):
Well, my bad, Yeah got here.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
So I'm I'm gonna go Cowboys in a shocker. I'm sorry,
that's the Rams my thirty one. Hey, when you come
to the show, Chris company.
Speaker 7 (45:52):
Charge, which one is the big dog?
Speaker 3 (45:54):
Yeah? When Kurt tells you something, Kur, Kurt, you're right.
Speaker 6 (46:01):
Well, my boy say something.
Speaker 7 (46:02):
And I jumped right on because I.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
Was Cowboys thirty one, Chargers twenty like.
Speaker 7 (46:07):
Man, I blew it again. That's what I was saying about.
Blew it again.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
Jesse.
Speaker 7 (46:12):
What you got?
Speaker 3 (46:13):
What's the reason Cowboy's gonna come out flat? Because they
gonna win Saturday.
Speaker 6 (46:17):
No, the Cowboys, the Cowboys are gonna win this football game.
Crazy spoiler, which is crazy. The Cowboys are gonna win
this football game, and it's gonna it's gonna be one
of those things where Philly will lose to uh who
they have Washington, Washington, They'll lose to Washington.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
Keep that Hope train going, for sure.
Speaker 8 (46:38):
They gotta go to.
Speaker 6 (46:39):
Buffalo and then they gotta go to Buffalo and then
the Cowboy. But then the Cowboys will let you do
because they will lose on Christmas, but they gotta win Sunday.
They're gonna win Sunday twenty four seventeen. They gotta score
thirty Jesse twenty four seven.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
Twenty four seventeen.
Speaker 8 (46:52):
Right, this is.
Speaker 6 (46:52):
This is this is this is very cowboy because and
I also do believe that Shaddy, who sometimes has a
little bit of rabbit ears. So he's been hearing the
last couple of days about how he was a little
bit kind of hesitanting, kind of like you suddenly once
you get past midfield shot, he's gonna come out and
be uper duper aggressively.
Speaker 5 (47:08):
He's gonna be like, settle for this, I'm gonna go
forward everything elash midfield.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
We're going going all right.
Speaker 5 (47:14):
Something to watch for Jesse good stuff, Nate good stuff,
Kurt good seeing you.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
Chris, thanks for keeping us on the air. Josh, thanks
for keeping him company.
Speaker 5 (47:22):
We'll be back money Hanging with the boys.
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