December 17, 2024 • 48 mins
Guys obviously aren’t quitting on the season, but maybe they’re playing for their own future contracts. Is it selfish? Then again, football is all about one-on-one battles. Also, should the Cowboys look to construct their roster differently next year to ensure more depth? And this team has had a number of undrafted free agents see action this year. Is that good? Yes. Is it bad? Well …
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we filled up an entire box truck. Like I'm they're
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get a good picture on it, but we did an
entire h box truck. We filled that box truck up.
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Do you have like any idea of how many families
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I know last year we did over a thousand kids
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You know what I mean.
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and then they just turn it into a store and
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in and they get to go shop for their kids
like it's a department store because they know what their
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kid likes.
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You know what I'm saying. It doesn't go good.
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We go to the store and I get ten basketballs
and the kid loves soccer, you know.
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What I'm saying.
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It's like, well, actually he likes archery, you know what
I mean. So the families get to go and stop
for the kids, and it feels like, you know, it
doesn't feel like a handout, doesn't feel.
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Like something that they get to pick it out.
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They get to pick it out and they get to
do it kind of in a sense of that they
were going to the department store to do it.
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Yeah, why do you got that? Why do you have
that look on your face.
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I love it, man, I just you know I love it.
And keep doing your thing, man, thank you.
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Mean years you been doing it now over ten?
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Really, yeah, I'm over ten. I was doing this back
when I was a player, so it's always.
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Been over ten.
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How long you've been out of the league.
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Twenty thirteen? Wow? Eleven?
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All right, eleven years Man, Salt and.
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Again.
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So good, good on you, Good on you guys. Thank
you for helping. Absolutely so.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Since you were here yesterday, what were your overall let's
see here, here was our checklist yesterday. Sloppy beat a
bad team that you should have beat.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
That was from a Monday night back.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Yeah, short week, and then I got to see some
young guys play, or some guys that haven't played a lot.
Offensive line seems to be getting better and serviceable. Why
didn't we do this? With Rico earlier, and your prediction
was true.
Speaker 7 (06:18):
Your score was way.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
Off, but your prediction came true.
Speaker 7 (06:23):
He didn't get fifty five and they lost.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Other than that, we didn't really We talked maybe eight
minutes of football and talked about Dion and some old
day stories when eight and that was the show. So
did we miss anything?
Speaker 9 (06:36):
You know?
Speaker 8 (06:37):
For me, you know, I sit here sometimes and I
want to pat myself on the back when I'm right. Uh,
there are times where I got to eat crow. Oh
there are times I have to eat Crow. And I
can be men enough to say that I can eat
Crawel Because I said that I felt like coming into
this game that they they took a death blow with
the way that they lost in that that Bengals game,
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and I thought that they will come out flat and
uninspired and kind of just just basically dead, and they didn't.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
And that's a testament to them.
Speaker 8 (07:05):
So I was wrong and thinking that, you know, this
group is still going out there doing what they can
to uh to win football games. And you know, but
bad team, good team, whatever whatever it is, you still
see a level of intensity from you know, from the
guys to go out there playing that it doesn't always
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look good, right, but it doesn't feel like it didn't
feel like quit.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
It doesn't always look good. Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Does that Does that factor into the decision on whether
they bring McCarthy back or out, because obviously these are
these guys aren't.
Speaker 7 (07:42):
Quitting, you know.
Speaker 8 (07:44):
And that's where I fall in this very very peculiar
situation because I look at a few things and just
from my history of being in the league, you see
a guy like Ceedee Lamb who honestly outside of the
records that he's trying to keep going. Right, So he
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reached a thousand yards, that's a good one, and then
now he's like twenty two catches off, he's twenty two
catches off from beating his all time reception record. Right,
But this is a guy who doesn't have to play hard.
His deal is already done. But there's a lot of
other guys. There's a lot of other guys on this
football team who are we what was it talking about
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thirty thirty three guys who are free agency offseason?
Speaker 5 (08:31):
And Mike even referenced that he was, like, guys are
playing for contracts, they're playing for their families, their livelihood,
the stuff that you always talk about, like, hey, yeah,
you don't know when your last down in the league is.
Speaker 8 (08:41):
And this team they don't know what we don't know
it is there going to be a coaching change. So
the last thing that you want to do is be
able to put on film when that new staff comes
in and they're coming through the film of the games
that you played, say oh, this guy's a quitter. No,
don't want them on my roster because the new coach
that come in ain't tied to you. And if you
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aren't MICA type, if you aren't CD type, if you
aren't that level, that type of player, then you're you're expendable.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Or if the current coaching staff stays and you quit,
they don't.
Speaker 7 (09:13):
Want you on this team.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
Right, that's literally what I just said.
Speaker 7 (09:15):
No, you said, if a new coaching staff comes.
Speaker 8 (09:17):
In, oh the currently if the current stage, oh lord,
don't say that, but if it does, but if it does,
you don't want You're absolutely right.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
I apologize.
Speaker 8 (09:25):
That's who apologies one. I don't get to a third.
I don't know we're gonna get to it.
Speaker 9 (09:29):
Right.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Very often sometimes you're right.
Speaker 12 (09:32):
But so yeah, it's an interesting dynamic though, because in
a way you could say these guys are playing selfish
because they want Obviously the team is benefiting, yeah, and
it's a good thing in the end. They're not showing
any quit but in some ways their motivation is different
now than it.
Speaker 9 (09:46):
Might have been.
Speaker 8 (09:47):
I think there is a level of selfishness in because
football is what made a bunch of one on one
battles that have to happen likely as a team, right right,
So selfishly, I have to win my one on one battle.
It's just me and a man across from me. Sometimes
I get a little help, but sometimes I don't. But
I have to win that battle more often than not.
And that's the selfish part of it. But it just
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so happens to correlate with what the other ten guys
in that field are doing the same thing that you're
trying to do.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
And as long as.
Speaker 8 (10:16):
Y'all doing it in unisoner to what the play design is,
then it works out right. But anytime you have those guys,
you have eleven guys who are doing the individual about
on one goes rogue and he's supposed to be down
blocking and he, you know what I'm saying, he doing something.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
Else pass.
Speaker 8 (10:37):
Those type of things you know, happen, And the other
thing for me, I've been trying to figure out because
I do want to be fair, and I do want
to be and I do want to give at times,
not all the time, at times benefit of the doubt.
And so for me, the one player that recently that
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I kind of trying to put where and how is Rico?
Speaker 6 (11:06):
Right?
Speaker 8 (11:06):
Because like right now, for example, like Rico has is
number one in the National Football League in rushing EPA right,
so yards expected on per play, he just took over
Derrick Henry, so he's number one in the league. Meaning
successful runs mean basically on the first run you get
four yards or more, and then on the second run
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you get half of what's left over, so you're getting
three at least three on that, and then the third
run is you know, do you get the rest of it?
Right now, he's at a sixty percent rate and that's
that's damn good. So my thing is now is where
do we put what pocket do we put Rico in?
Do we put Rico in the pocket of you know,
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this is a guy who wasn't getting many reps early
in the year, couldn't overtake that. Do we put Rico
in the box? Well, the last couple of games have
been a verse pretty much really bad defenses and run defenses.
Or do we say, you know what duds a player? Yeah,
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Like that's the part. Like that is where I'm at
on a bunch of things where we put Rico.
Speaker 12 (12:22):
I would probably go with the ladder there that he
is showing he's a player.
Speaker 7 (12:25):
Well, let me ask you guys, this did they change?
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Like he's the best running back in the league, up
there with the best Well, the last three or four games,
his performance, he's he's up there with Saquan and those
types of guys. I'm not saying he's Saquan by any means.
I'm saying something has changed in the last four to
five games, which I would think is they know with
Cooper Rush, you got to run the ball because he's
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not going to throw you into a game and compete
like that.
Speaker 7 (12:55):
So you have to kind of.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
Change the dynamic, right, and the offensive line is getting better,
You're changing your game plan a little bit, you're feeding
him the rock. Is this the building block for Okay?
This is working with Cooper Rush. Maybe we asked Dak
to do too much early on or maybe even last year.
Now we have a formula with this guy.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
If we can.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
He's a free agent after this year, right, his contracts up.
Maybe you don't go get a guy in the draft.
You hang on to this guy. You know what he
can do. You've seen it. You go back to old
school DAC where you're not asking him to throw thirty
forty times a game. You're asking him to throw seventeen
to twenty five and you run with Rico. Is that
is that a formula for success? I mean, is that
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because this is working whatever they're doing.
Speaker 9 (13:45):
Yeah. So the one thing that has gotten better and
the one thing that's been consistent, it's three sorry teams
we've played.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
I forgot the fack that.
Speaker 9 (13:57):
In the offensive line, UH has played grittier, meaner, and tougher,
and they've played a little bit better as a unit.
So Rico has developed into a better back. He has
learned to read and stay with the blocks longer, He
plays the situations better, He sees the whole now's he
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gets through the whole. Before he used to be just widen,
just get the ball and just run. Now he reads,
he understands the offense better. All of those pluses because
even when you're playing not so good NFL teams, they
are still NFL teams. You still can build momentum and
you still can build confidence. And that's what this offensive
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mind is getting. That is what Rico is getting. If
next year a good running back comes open with a
special gift, say ultra speed of the gift to make
people miss catching the ball, if that guy comes open,
you still get him. You don't mess around, you still
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get him.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
You know.
Speaker 9 (15:04):
The issue? The issue here, like I was saying y'all yesterday,
was and just what I was telling him is it's
a lot of guys that we have shot up and
developed this year, including Rico. What are you gonna do
this offseason? So, whether it's a new coach or not,
what are the Cowboys willing to do? Rico has developed
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into a pretty sturdy guy. He is who he is.
He's a good football player, nothing nothing special. He's just
a good football player that is doing his job in
the NFL. That's just what I believe.
Speaker 12 (15:38):
Do you think that they're feeding him the ball more
because they've just seen that confidence in him, they've seen
that change in him. They can give him more. Or
is it just dictated by the game and what's happening.
Speaker 9 (15:50):
I've never bought into the dictator dictating of the game.
Because we started in here three weeks ago saying we were.
Speaker 7 (15:56):
We were still in the game.
Speaker 9 (15:58):
Why didn't it into it that everything's a little bit
better right now? You know, the offensive line is a
touch better. Uh, the rhythm of the play calling has
gotten better. Uh, and Bricoy has been the beneficial area
of this. I still ain't forgetting that. Uh they got uh,
the other guys sitting out there a wide receiver that
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you still have to pay attention to, you know.
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All right. So we were just having a off air
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actually one we can talk about on the air, so
we tabled it. We were talking about Kurt, you brought
it up, so bring it up. And then Jesse and
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Speaker 12 (20:03):
Well, we were talking about are they going to spend
money this season? And Stephen kind of alluded it to
a little bit in his radio shot yesterday that yes,
they want to pay these high end guys. But then
you get all these injuries and it makes you second
guess yourself a little bit. But it sounds like they're
proceeding as normal and Parsons will be back anyway. So
we've got this kind of upscale high end, the rich guys,
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the Parsons, Lambs, Prescott's, and then you've got the you know,
the undrafted guys at the bottom and all that that
middle class. Should they how do they spend their money?
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Should they be lower middle class with a lot of guys,
or higher middle class with more select maybe better players.
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Speaker 8 (20:44):
So one of the things that we do is is
it's always this compare contrast, right, It's always, well, Philly's
doing this and the Niners are doing this, and this
team is doing that, and that's fine, right, and everybody's
going to work things differently. And for the Cowboys, for
as long as I can remember, they have always been
a draft and development.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
That's their model. We go when we do really good
in the draft, and we hope that those guys.
Speaker 8 (21:09):
Are guys that we can bring along and that we
can you know, build up, and then now these be
the guys that we pay the in house guys, aren't.
This team has never really been a team that goes
out into free agency and fish in those ponds like that.
Speaker 6 (21:23):
And I think one.
Speaker 8 (21:24):
Of the things that makes this season a little bit
of gift and a curse.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
At the end of the year.
Speaker 8 (21:30):
And it's gonna be very dependent upon how these next
three games go Tampa Bay, Philadelphia, Washington, Because if for
some reason there was six and eight right now, if
for some reason you go when you win two of
the last three games and now you're sitting at the
end of this year at eight and nine. The Joneses
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may look at this and go, whoa big goal? Huh,
They'll say, where eight and nine with all these injuries
and depleted and you know, we're we're we're gonna get
at some point time, we're gonna get. Well, Dak's coming
back with eight nine and we didn't have Dak. Uh
Parsons probably won't miss four games next year. Maybe we
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can get tanked, you know, back at a discount, and
Sam Williams will be on his way back, and eventually
you're going to get back over shown and maybe we'll
get back Digs at some point in time next year.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
It won't be down to your fifth sixth cornerback.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8 (22:30):
So there there, there's a there's a lot of promise
that goes to this thing, and they go, well, we
don't really have to go out there and dive into
the upper echelon free agents, because if we just bring
them back our core, you know, and and CD's not
dealing with the with the shoulder injury, and Rico's looking good.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
And knee kneeling will get better.
Speaker 8 (22:54):
Hope that hope you right, and so, but this is
so they'll end of this year and go, well, well,
why do I have to go out there and spend
this outrageous amount of money to be competitive? Now notice
I said competitive and not really pushing forward the super
Bowl level type stuff, because what ends up happening is
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you may there may be a level of hopium, and
you bring those guys back and you're competitive until you
run into those teams that said, well, while you were
getting competitive and living and dying on hopium and thinking
that you can go and do this, when you run
into us who said, we're preparing for a super Bowl
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and you're drafting developed guys, ain't better than these established,
high end free agents that we brought in to go
with our high end players that we drafted and developed.
And you see what happened in the playoffs. You run
into the Green Bays, you run into the Niners of
the worlds, you run into you know whoever, the team
that you're detroits.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Of the world.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
And so that's the gift in the curse. But the
Cowboys aren't a team.
Speaker 6 (23:59):
They just aren't.
Speaker 8 (24:00):
They aren't a team that looks to go and to
go all in into the level of free agency, and
like I said, this year, now maybe how they gone
you know, three and three, three and fourteen and it
looked real bad. But they consider that. But there's a
there's a level of hope that's left in. But we
get these guys back with the full training camp, with
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the full whole deal, we'll get some of these lower
level free agency and you know, the discounted ones.
Speaker 12 (24:28):
And the learned anything from this year, because I mean Diggs,
who knows this future may be what he's gonna be
like next year, he's not gonna be supposed to be back.
He's gonna miss training camp.
Speaker 8 (24:39):
You know what they say, Dak, We'll find another durn Blair.
We found the right Darron Blair in the fifth round.
That worked out pretty well for us.
Speaker 12 (24:44):
That's what Steven kind of hinted that was the depth
is hurting me. I mean, it's great when your top
stars are healthy, but once they get hurt, then you
don't have that same solid depth.
Speaker 9 (24:55):
The thing that you're saying, Jesse, I'm with you one
hundred perc and you are so correct. The bottom line
is this, you don't even sign back your own guys.
You've let a couple of offensive linemen go. You've let
a couple of You have to sign these guys. Now,
(25:17):
these guys that are like ghosting.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
And Lewis Rico, all these guys, sign them back.
Speaker 9 (25:27):
It's gonna be new guys in their place. And that
and that, that is the issue. Well, we're gonna draft,
we're gonna develop, and that's why Armstrong is gone. That's
why two offensive linemen is gone because we're under drafted
them and we under developed them for somebody else. You
have to make a concerted effort and if it push
you near the cap signing your own, well do it.
(25:47):
But don't tell me you're not gonna push the cap.
You're not gonna get the high end free agents. You're
gonna develop your own and let them go somewhere else.
That is what's been happening here.
Speaker 12 (25:57):
But didn't that. The problem though, is that they are
signed their own. They're just signing really really expensive you know, Lamb,
you know.
Speaker 9 (26:04):
But I'm gonna tell you something as great as Lamb is.
Just line them up there against against loving guys. Hey, Lamb,
have at it. You got forty five million dollars, get them,
get the other eleven guys. It's still got to be
ten guys to go with Lamb.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
You have to if you're gonna.
Speaker 8 (26:19):
Sign your own, sign them, Like I think, to NAT's point,
you signing Lamb and Micah and and Dak, that's a
pre work, that's a prerequisite of this is how you
gotta play football. Like every team has a Dak, a
CD and a Micah. Like that's almost a starter kit.
If you're going to be anything remotely close to being competitive,
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you're gonna have those three level type guys, you know
what I mean, Like you're gonna you can add in
you know, you could add in one of those really
good offensive.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
Linemen you know, into that mix as well.
Speaker 8 (26:51):
But to have a pastor, a pass catcher, a pass rusher,
and a pass protector.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
That's that's that's bottom line, basement levels.
Speaker 9 (27:00):
That's the found the price doing business, right.
Speaker 12 (27:02):
But they that seemed to be their excuse though they
had to pay these digs, Dak, Lamb and.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
Had Parsons come.
Speaker 9 (27:11):
That's where Jones is so masterful that we have been
doing it for him, right. But the media has been
oh you hear you hear the guys sometime at the
place where Jesse's at. Now, hey, well, you know, we're
up against the cap. Okay, and the forty nine up
gainst the cap. Detroit up gets the cap against the.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Cat and Philly Hey, and the and the The comeback
to that is if you would have taken care of
business a year a year and a half before you
were up against the wall and had to pay market
value for a year later when they when those prices
go up by ten million dollars for a receiver, you
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were again with Parsons, exactly, get the deal. You know
he's not going anywhere. Get the deal done now, be like, hey,
we don't want you to in this season without being
under contract.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
And let me also say this to my good brother
Michael Parsons.
Speaker 15 (28:05):
Oh yeah, workd you apologize. Got to be the third one,
not get the third one to death.
Speaker 8 (28:18):
Michael, for the love of God, please stop publicly telling
people that you'll take thirty. What's the difference between thirty
and forty? Like, I know you might be trying to
pander to the public, a quart of the court of
public opinion. You're not taking less. You shouldn't even think
(28:41):
about taking less. I know, David malu Getta, your agent.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
How quick do you think he called him listen.
Speaker 8 (28:47):
As soon as David Malot heard that, he goes, hey, listen,
we're not taking like stop like stop, take a page
out of Tate Lawrence's book.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
That ain't my problem.
Speaker 8 (29:00):
That ain't how they got a maneuver and work the
cap ain't min get.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
It anyway, tag me whatever you gotta do.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
Stop saying that you're gonna stop saying you.
Speaker 8 (29:09):
I know you want to be a cowboy for life,
that's good, but you need to be a cowboy for
life at the highest price that you can get it.
Don't don't take a dollar less than what you absolutely
and you.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Know you know who's probably calling him as well, the
Miles Garants of the world, all those guys, because they're like, bro,
you having our price now.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
Also, the nfl P is like, hey, hey, listen, you're
you're a high profile dude.
Speaker 8 (29:32):
What we're not gonna do is a union is let
you take less than what you're supposed to take to
stay with the team, because that that man.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
Everyone wasn't for everybody else.
Speaker 8 (29:40):
So don't don't say that publicly, bro, Like, don't don't
say that publicly. Just just say, hey, we're gonna do
whatever we gotta do to get a cab, to be
a cowboy for life and whether that however, you.
Speaker 6 (29:49):
Worked that behind the scenes. But but don't don't. Don't
kill your bargain in the public right now.
Speaker 8 (29:55):
Man, No, listen, do like Dion said, they're gonna have
to put me on lay away.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
That's how big my price gonna be. Thank you, Jesse.
Speaker 9 (30:06):
And Parsons, do what you gotta do. Listen to Jesse,
But cowboys, y'all still have to pay the other these
other guys. I don't want to have another year where okay,
we pay Parsons and then y'all tell us as fans
and I'm not speaking as a football guy. I'm just
as a fan. Don't tell me like, okay, well kind
(30:27):
of had of that old so to go. Man, We
was just on the board of getting Chauncey done. But no, no, no,
we gotta have players to compete because one time you
can't play for pay for guys and let fifty forty
(30:48):
nine of them just wander out there. You can't and
not be competitive.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
All right, let's take our last break when we come back.
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Speaker 7 (33:50):
Chris is at home listening to the show.
Speaker 6 (33:52):
Texted He's listening.
Speaker 8 (33:53):
Text he's probably like knee deep on Fortnite.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
Yeah, back when backpacking wait waiting, Yeah, and.
Speaker 9 (34:00):
An overdose.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
Or already hyped him up on some talent jumping here women,
help me get some duves. So what do you all
want to do the last ten minutes?
Speaker 9 (34:12):
Well, how long does it take to do just quickly?
How does it take to do one of them Fortnite games?
Like ten minutes?
Speaker 13 (34:18):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (34:18):
Probably it depends on how quick Fortnite of Call of Duty.
We're on Fortnite now that Fortnite moved off. We used
to be Call of Duty and then they jacked with
the game, and then and then Fortnite started. They released
some really cool every season, like every month they have
a different map and a different theme. They had like
the X Men theme where you can.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
Do difference that I was buying banana suits at Yeah.
Speaker 7 (34:39):
Yeah, that was the Fortnite So everybody.
Speaker 8 (34:41):
I can't believe grown men spent their hard earned American.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
Dollars bana suits. Yeah, banana skins, digital ones, you know.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
But there's no one in our friend group that's on
before like ten or eleven o'clock because they all have kids' ability.
They have to put the kids to bed and put
the wife to sleep and then they jump on and
then they play from like ten eleven to like.
Speaker 7 (35:05):
Two or three in the morning. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
Depends what I quit me about three minutes.
Speaker 9 (35:11):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (35:11):
But if you if you win a game.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
It's probably takes.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
It sounds like your sex stop. It sounds like you said.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
If you win, if you win the game, get out
of it.
Speaker 7 (35:20):
If you make.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
It to the if you make it to the end,
it's about twenty twenty five minutes, All right, go ahead
on two.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
So twenty five minutes.
Speaker 8 (35:28):
I mean you've got to get like if y'all love
from eleven to about three o'clock in the morning, that's
like it's like ten twelve games, y'allah.
Speaker 7 (35:34):
Yeah, it depends like it depends on what's going on.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
If people have work early in the morning, if they
got meetings, they will jump off. But if you know,
like weekends, it's hell, you might you lose and you
lose track of time. Like it's if you don't have
anything to do the next day, you look up and
it's two thirty in the morning, like what you like,
and then you say one more and then you have
an unwritten rule. If you win, you have to play
another one, like gambling, Like you can't go out on
a losing hand, like you got to play one more,
(35:58):
so you in and then you know, yeah, yeah, so
there you go.
Speaker 8 (36:03):
Nice all right, Happy backpacking Chris, Yeah, happy backpacking Chris.
Speaker 12 (36:09):
So I do have a question for these guys, if
you don't mind me asking. Well, we've been talking about
young guys and building the roster and all that. I
was amazed at that came out that Jalen Brooks touchdown
in that last game. There were seven undrafted players on
the field for Dallas. The eleven offensive guys, seven of
them were undrafted. Part of me thinks that's that's amazing.
You're doing some great as McCarthy said, drafting in the
(36:32):
eighth round or whatever, you're really finding guys. Part of
me is like, that's why we're where we.
Speaker 8 (36:36):
Are, right exactly. No, you hit it right on the head.
You hit it right on the head. And you know
this this league when you when you cut out all
the fluff right, cut all the hooplah, cut out all
of the streaming services, cut out all of the fan fare,
cut out all of the cut out all.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
Of it, cut out all of it. It's a players league.
Speaker 8 (37:00):
Okay, there's a reason why guys go in the first round.
There's a reason why guys go undrafted. Now, not saying
that you can't miss in either miss on a guy
in the first round.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
We know that.
Speaker 8 (37:15):
Can have a guy be a stalworth in your organization
as an undrafted guy. But there is reason, there is
a reason why these guys are where they're where they're at, you.
Speaker 6 (37:29):
Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 14 (37:29):
And so.
Speaker 8 (37:31):
You're not gonna find very many teams who are highly
successful with a bunch of guys in the seventh and
to Mike McCarthy eighth round type situation, those that are
really successive, that are really successful they're gonna be primarily
dominating with guys of the of the higher caliber. You
(37:53):
know what I'm saying, Like, again, I don't want to
knock anybody from round one through eight seven. But there's
a reason for that, because this is a players league.
There's a reason why there's a Justin Jefferson in the world,
and he's in a class by himself. There's a reason
why there's a CD Lamb of the world. There's a
(38:14):
reason why there's a Patrick Mahomes in the world, and
then there's everybody else because those type of dudes matter.
They are the reason you hoist Lombards and you don't.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
There's a reason why coach Belichick's coaching in college and
not still in the league.
Speaker 6 (38:32):
Right, he found that quarterback, he found a gym.
Speaker 8 (38:35):
He found a gym in the seventh round, right, and
then when the gym in the seventh round turned into
first round quality.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
He went with a super Bowl is another team, and
then coach Belichick's out of the league.
Speaker 8 (38:45):
And right, but you go, but you go look at
those teams, you go say, oh, yeah, there's a there's
a Vitch Wolfork in the mix. There's a second round
Rob Gronkowski in the mix. There's a Matt Light in
the first round type mix. And there's a Woody, there's
a Damien Woody an offensive, there's a you know, there's
a key to leave on the outside, you know there
there there's a reason why those things happen the way
(39:08):
that they do, and and and and that's because this
is a This is like I said, remove everything.
Speaker 6 (39:13):
It's a players league.
Speaker 8 (39:14):
So you know, when you line up seven of the
eleven players on the team, it's undrafted free agents.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
Credit to them. That's not a formula of success.
Speaker 12 (39:25):
Nice bro, you got Kurt Oh okay, well, oh, let's say.
Speaker 9 (39:32):
You had no follow up, no follow Yes, he did
a great job.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
You don't have a follow up.
Speaker 12 (39:40):
I'm ready for cinnamon rolls.
Speaker 6 (39:43):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:44):
Oh, shout out to mom Mama Gross who.
Speaker 9 (39:51):
Brought him up by now, and then.
Speaker 6 (39:54):
Shout out to Mama Gross. Buns. There you go, the
disrespect to Mama Gross.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
There with all their respect over there in the bag.
Speaker 9 (40:02):
So yeah, well, why we ain't seen them yet because.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
I didn't want you eating on the air because you
show you you show wings on that Well, yeah, that's
a that's a sponsor sponsored to the and we know
how he was up. We know how good the we
know how good the the podcast is when we're all
eating on the air and licking our fingers and smacking, and.
Speaker 12 (40:26):
You better watch that bag.
Speaker 14 (40:27):
Just grab it up.
Speaker 7 (40:28):
I know he's got his own.
Speaker 15 (40:30):
He has.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
His own and she even writes his name on it
and everything.
Speaker 6 (40:38):
So yeah, she makes.
Speaker 12 (40:39):
It thank you textas trashing and whatever she calls.
Speaker 5 (40:41):
You got a lot of y'all want something.
Speaker 6 (40:43):
What is that?
Speaker 5 (40:43):
I want the buns, the checks mixed and yeah the president.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
That's that's a good little we got.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
We got like eight containers at the house and she
made probably y'all.
Speaker 8 (40:53):
Man, Hey, I want to give a shout out. Yeah, yeah,
give us out to my god, Roger. Roger loves loves love,
love loves loves our show. We keep Roger laughing. Man,
So Roger, appreciate your brother. Thank you so much for
the support. I know I know that you're a huge
fan of mine, but we're a huge fan of yours, Roger,
So thank you so much for watching out. He was
he was watching the show last week. He said he
thought I was gonna eat my fingers off when we
(41:14):
were eating the wings. And these are so good man,
those wings are so good. So yeah, I see why
you don't want to bring those buns out.
Speaker 6 (41:22):
Yeah the show, Yeah, yeah, we save it. We'll put
you on.
Speaker 9 (41:27):
Roger.
Speaker 12 (41:28):
Gary Thomlinson heard you was talking about fishing yesterday and
Prime It's got a spot for you if you want
to go.
Speaker 9 (41:34):
All right, Hey, you sent it to me. But I'm
not a fish man unless it's a fish shack where
you can go get some fried fish.
Speaker 7 (41:44):
What's your favorite kind of fish fish?
Speaker 9 (41:47):
I like catfish, catfish, catfish man, and uh yeah, if
you get some good catfish that you can slice really
thin and fry it crispy, why nothing better?
Speaker 6 (42:00):
Whiting's fish?
Speaker 9 (42:01):
What's a whiting?
Speaker 6 (42:02):
Whiting?
Speaker 12 (42:03):
Is that?
Speaker 6 (42:04):
It's a type of fish, whiting whiting? Never heard of that.
Speaker 8 (42:09):
I know, g from Jersey watching from Jersey. Know whitings fish?
Speaker 7 (42:12):
What kind of fish is it?
Speaker 6 (42:13):
It's a white fish, look it up.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
Is it an ocean fish or like a river fish?
Speaker 6 (42:17):
Fresh water or Atlantic ocean? I guess I don't know.
Whiting fish from the East Coast. I've never heard fried.
Speaker 9 (42:24):
His sister said, Man, I love seafood.
Speaker 6 (42:26):
What you're gonna eat catfish?
Speaker 5 (42:29):
Yeah? Fried speckled trout.
Speaker 12 (42:33):
Speckled trout out of golf or red snapper.
Speaker 6 (42:38):
Sheckle?
Speaker 14 (42:38):
What trout?
Speaker 7 (42:40):
Whiting whiting fish?
Speaker 5 (42:42):
Is that it?
Speaker 9 (42:43):
See?
Speaker 6 (42:44):
Yeah, I guess that's it.
Speaker 5 (42:46):
I just see that's a sick looking.
Speaker 6 (42:50):
I need.
Speaker 9 (42:50):
I'm gonna tell you what.
Speaker 8 (42:52):
When they play that thing and put three pieces of
two pieces of white bread and.
Speaker 9 (42:56):
We go down, we go down south and we go
down south, down south. Uh, we've been known to fry
the whole fish. No, My wife.
Speaker 14 (43:09):
Like, what is that.
Speaker 9 (43:12):
Fish?
Speaker 14 (43:13):
You got?
Speaker 6 (43:13):
Do you eat raccoon and squirrels?
Speaker 5 (43:17):
I went back and listen.
Speaker 9 (43:20):
That is gone.
Speaker 5 (43:22):
I went back and listened to that that is gone
about six times. I showed my mom and Patty and
it was just like the way that they just shut
down on him is like they.
Speaker 6 (43:33):
Just like rain the squirrel.
Speaker 9 (43:37):
I got.
Speaker 6 (43:38):
I got maybe he knows something we don't.
Speaker 9 (43:40):
Maybe I got some homeboys who brother, he'd be eating
the squirrels and stuff and h I mean, you know
in college, you know how you don't have a lot
to eat? You know, you're in college, you're trying to
make a meal.
Speaker 6 (43:53):
I want I.
Speaker 8 (43:53):
Couldn't even division I want your Division one university. Yeah,
once I got the call in the Best Life. You
never got left on the porch.
Speaker 9 (44:03):
You catage.
Speaker 6 (44:04):
No, no, no, I want to go back. They didn't
forget about me.
Speaker 9 (44:07):
And that's why I hate tell his knees that you
don't want to go down.
Speaker 6 (44:12):
Yeah, you don't want to go live.
Speaker 5 (44:16):
What's what's either to end the show? What's either the
nastiest thing you've ever eaten or something you eat or
something you really you can't be in the.
Speaker 7 (44:26):
Country and not. I don't like ok either fried okra.
Speaker 9 (44:30):
My grandmather know you just put it in the peas
and stuff. Oh my god, that stuff. So try to
force me to eat that? Oh my god.
Speaker 13 (44:37):
Man.
Speaker 5 (44:37):
What's the nastiest either the nastiest thing or something you
ate that you never thought you would eat?
Speaker 12 (44:43):
Well for me to growing up, I hated Okra Man
like question.
Speaker 14 (44:53):
Kanya green.
Speaker 12 (44:54):
Okra Man had some kind of Japanese sushi thing was
like some weird eel. It was awful.
Speaker 8 (45:00):
It's bad, horrible, Oh, kangaroo and veggimont.
Speaker 6 (45:05):
What is it called veggie vegimonemon stuff? Is it bad?
Kangaroof teller? Terrible and veggimon.
Speaker 9 (45:14):
Why would you want an animal that's that you can
see they just sayin't nothing but muscle kangaroo, like you know, winning.
Speaker 6 (45:21):
A room as a rooms.
Speaker 9 (45:22):
You know, the Romans see that kangaroo while you eat it,
just trying to punch.
Speaker 7 (45:27):
You eat the right parts, the parts.
Speaker 9 (45:32):
Would you eat of the kangaroo.
Speaker 6 (45:35):
The tender parts.
Speaker 5 (45:37):
That's see, that's what happens when you speak before you
actually think it, because.
Speaker 9 (45:44):
That thing is the muscles.
Speaker 6 (45:47):
Man, what's the nastis thinking you have eaten.
Speaker 5 (45:52):
I can't think of the nasties because I've eaten some
nasty stuff.
Speaker 16 (45:56):
Take that how you take that you want? But like
something don't get kb in here.
Speaker 5 (46:09):
But something I ate that I never thought i'd eat
was like caviar, like really high dollar caviar, like two
hundred dollars an ounce.
Speaker 7 (46:18):
It didn't really have a tast It's kind of like guacamole.
Speaker 5 (46:21):
It's like you hear all this great stuff about it
and you put it in your mouth and it's like there's.
Speaker 6 (46:25):
Something like risk.
Speaker 8 (46:25):
People like, well you're just really yeah, that's just come on,
that's not yeah, Like that's like.
Speaker 6 (46:30):
Come on, do you eat it?
Speaker 9 (46:31):
What type of cracker? Do you eat it on?
Speaker 6 (46:33):
Like a saltine?
Speaker 14 (46:35):
I mean level.
Speaker 9 (46:36):
This call two hundred dollars an ounce and then you
eat it with a Yeah.
Speaker 6 (46:41):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 8 (46:42):
It's just one of those privileged steaks. It's it's because
I'm privileged.
Speaker 14 (46:45):
I can.
Speaker 9 (46:47):
I know sardines. Sardines is good.
Speaker 6 (46:49):
You you so, I'll tell you. I know. We got
to go.
Speaker 7 (46:53):
I used to work at a pizza place. That was
my first job.
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High living.
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He was straight out of George Hello, Jerry Joyce.
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We'll see you all tomorrow.
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We go to the store and I get ten basketballs
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What I'm saying.
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doesn't feel like a handout, doesn't feel.
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Really, yeah, I'm over ten. I was doing this back
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Been over ten.
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How long you've been out of the league.
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Speaker 5 (05:45):
Since you were here yesterday, what were your overall let's
see here, here was our checklist yesterday. Sloppy beat a
bad team that you should have beat.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
That was from a Monday night back.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Yeah, short week, and then I got to see some
young guys play, or some guys that haven't played a lot.
Offensive line seems to be getting better and serviceable. Why
didn't we do this? With Rico earlier, and your prediction
was true.
Speaker 7 (06:18):
Your score was way.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
Off, but your prediction came true.
Speaker 7 (06:23):
He didn't get fifty five and they lost.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Other than that, we didn't really We talked maybe eight
minutes of football and talked about Dion and some old
day stories when eight and that was the show. So
did we miss anything?
Speaker 9 (06:36):
You know?
Speaker 8 (06:37):
For me, you know, I sit here sometimes and I
want to pat myself on the back when I'm right. Uh,
there are times where I got to eat crow. Oh
there are times I have to eat Crow. And I
can be men enough to say that I can eat
Crawel Because I said that I felt like coming into
this game that they they took a death blow with
the way that they lost in that that Bengals game,
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and I thought that they will come out flat and
uninspired and kind of just just basically dead, and they didn't.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
And that's a testament to them.
Speaker 8 (07:05):
So I was wrong and thinking that, you know, this
group is still going out there doing what they can
to uh to win football games. And you know, but
bad team, good team, whatever whatever it is, you still
see a level of intensity from you know, from the
guys to go out there playing that it doesn't always
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look good, right, but it doesn't feel like it didn't
feel like quit.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
It doesn't always look good. Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Does that Does that factor into the decision on whether
they bring McCarthy back or out, because obviously these are
these guys aren't.
Speaker 7 (07:42):
Quitting, you know.
Speaker 8 (07:44):
And that's where I fall in this very very peculiar
situation because I look at a few things and just
from my history of being in the league, you see
a guy like Ceedee Lamb who honestly outside of the
records that he's trying to keep going. Right, So he
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reached a thousand yards, that's a good one, and then
now he's like twenty two catches off, he's twenty two
catches off from beating his all time reception record. Right,
But this is a guy who doesn't have to play hard.
His deal is already done. But there's a lot of
other guys. There's a lot of other guys on this
football team who are we what was it talking about
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thirty thirty three guys who are free agency offseason?
Speaker 5 (08:31):
And Mike even referenced that he was, like, guys are
playing for contracts, they're playing for their families, their livelihood,
the stuff that you always talk about, like, hey, yeah,
you don't know when your last down in the league is.
Speaker 8 (08:41):
And this team they don't know what we don't know
it is there going to be a coaching change. So
the last thing that you want to do is be
able to put on film when that new staff comes
in and they're coming through the film of the games
that you played, say oh, this guy's a quitter. No,
don't want them on my roster because the new coach
that come in ain't tied to you. And if you
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aren't MICA type, if you aren't CD type, if you
aren't that level, that type of player, then you're you're expendable.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Or if the current coaching staff stays and you quit,
they don't.
Speaker 7 (09:13):
Want you on this team.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
Right, that's literally what I just said.
Speaker 7 (09:15):
No, you said, if a new coaching staff comes.
Speaker 8 (09:17):
In, oh the currently if the current stage, oh lord,
don't say that, but if it does, but if it does,
you don't want You're absolutely right.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
I apologize.
Speaker 8 (09:25):
That's who apologies one. I don't get to a third.
I don't know we're gonna get to it.
Speaker 9 (09:29):
Right.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Very often sometimes you're right.
Speaker 12 (09:32):
But so yeah, it's an interesting dynamic though, because in
a way you could say these guys are playing selfish
because they want Obviously the team is benefiting, yeah, and
it's a good thing in the end. They're not showing
any quit but in some ways their motivation is different
now than it.
Speaker 9 (09:46):
Might have been.
Speaker 8 (09:47):
I think there is a level of selfishness in because
football is what made a bunch of one on one
battles that have to happen likely as a team, right right,
So selfishly, I have to win my one on one battle.
It's just me and a man across from me. Sometimes
I get a little help, but sometimes I don't. But
I have to win that battle more often than not.
And that's the selfish part of it. But it just
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so happens to correlate with what the other ten guys
in that field are doing the same thing that you're
trying to do.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
And as long as.
Speaker 8 (10:16):
Y'all doing it in unisoner to what the play design is,
then it works out right. But anytime you have those guys,
you have eleven guys who are doing the individual about
on one goes rogue and he's supposed to be down
blocking and he, you know what I'm saying, he doing something.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
Else pass.
Speaker 8 (10:37):
Those type of things you know, happen, And the other
thing for me, I've been trying to figure out because
I do want to be fair, and I do want
to be and I do want to give at times,
not all the time, at times benefit of the doubt.
And so for me, the one player that recently that
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I kind of trying to put where and how is Rico?
Speaker 6 (11:06):
Right?
Speaker 8 (11:06):
Because like right now, for example, like Rico has is
number one in the National Football League in rushing EPA right,
so yards expected on per play, he just took over
Derrick Henry, so he's number one in the league. Meaning
successful runs mean basically on the first run you get
four yards or more, and then on the second run
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you get half of what's left over, so you're getting
three at least three on that, and then the third
run is you know, do you get the rest of it?
Right now, he's at a sixty percent rate and that's
that's damn good. So my thing is now is where
do we put what pocket do we put Rico in?
Do we put Rico in the pocket of you know,
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this is a guy who wasn't getting many reps early
in the year, couldn't overtake that. Do we put Rico
in the box? Well, the last couple of games have
been a verse pretty much really bad defenses and run defenses.
Or do we say, you know what duds a player? Yeah,
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Like that's the part. Like that is where I'm at
on a bunch of things where we put Rico.
Speaker 12 (12:22):
I would probably go with the ladder there that he
is showing he's a player.
Speaker 7 (12:25):
Well, let me ask you guys, this did they change?
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Like he's the best running back in the league, up
there with the best Well, the last three or four games,
his performance, he's he's up there with Saquan and those
types of guys. I'm not saying he's Saquan by any means.
I'm saying something has changed in the last four to
five games, which I would think is they know with
Cooper Rush, you got to run the ball because he's
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not going to throw you into a game and compete
like that.
Speaker 7 (12:55):
So you have to kind of.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
Change the dynamic, right, and the offensive line is getting better,
You're changing your game plan a little bit, you're feeding
him the rock. Is this the building block for Okay?
This is working with Cooper Rush. Maybe we asked Dak
to do too much early on or maybe even last year.
Now we have a formula with this guy.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
If we can.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
He's a free agent after this year, right, his contracts up.
Maybe you don't go get a guy in the draft.
You hang on to this guy. You know what he
can do. You've seen it. You go back to old
school DAC where you're not asking him to throw thirty
forty times a game. You're asking him to throw seventeen
to twenty five and you run with Rico. Is that
is that a formula for success? I mean, is that
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because this is working whatever they're doing.
Speaker 9 (13:45):
Yeah. So the one thing that has gotten better and
the one thing that's been consistent, it's three sorry teams
we've played.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
I forgot the fack that.
Speaker 9 (13:57):
In the offensive line, UH has played grittier, meaner, and tougher,
and they've played a little bit better as a unit.
So Rico has developed into a better back. He has
learned to read and stay with the blocks longer, He
plays the situations better, He sees the whole now's he
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gets through the whole. Before he used to be just widen,
just get the ball and just run. Now he reads,
he understands the offense better. All of those pluses because
even when you're playing not so good NFL teams, they
are still NFL teams. You still can build momentum and
you still can build confidence. And that's what this offensive
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mind is getting. That is what Rico is getting. If
next year a good running back comes open with a
special gift, say ultra speed of the gift to make
people miss catching the ball, if that guy comes open,
you still get him. You don't mess around, you still
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get him.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
You know.
Speaker 9 (15:04):
The issue? The issue here, like I was saying y'all yesterday,
was and just what I was telling him is it's
a lot of guys that we have shot up and
developed this year, including Rico. What are you gonna do
this offseason? So, whether it's a new coach or not,
what are the Cowboys willing to do? Rico has developed
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into a pretty sturdy guy. He is who he is.
He's a good football player, nothing nothing special. He's just
a good football player that is doing his job in
the NFL. That's just what I believe.
Speaker 12 (15:38):
Do you think that they're feeding him the ball more
because they've just seen that confidence in him, they've seen
that change in him. They can give him more. Or
is it just dictated by the game and what's happening.
Speaker 9 (15:50):
I've never bought into the dictator dictating of the game.
Because we started in here three weeks ago saying we were.
Speaker 7 (15:56):
We were still in the game.
Speaker 9 (15:58):
Why didn't it into it that everything's a little bit
better right now? You know, the offensive line is a
touch better. Uh, the rhythm of the play calling has
gotten better. Uh, and Bricoy has been the beneficial area
of this. I still ain't forgetting that. Uh they got uh,
the other guys sitting out there a wide receiver that
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you still have to pay attention to, you know.
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All right. So we were just having a off air
discussion like we do almost every break, and this is
actually one we can talk about on the air, so
we tabled it. We were talking about Kurt, you brought
it up, so bring it up. And then Jesse and
Nate both have thoughts on it.
Speaker 12 (20:03):
Well, we were talking about are they going to spend
money this season? And Stephen kind of alluded it to
a little bit in his radio shot yesterday that yes,
they want to pay these high end guys. But then
you get all these injuries and it makes you second
guess yourself a little bit. But it sounds like they're
proceeding as normal and Parsons will be back anyway. So
we've got this kind of upscale high end, the rich guys,
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the Parsons, Lambs, Prescott's, and then you've got the you know,
the undrafted guys at the bottom and all that that
middle class. Should they how do they spend their money?
Speaker 14 (20:34):
There?
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Should they be lower middle class with a lot of guys,
or higher middle class with more select maybe better players.
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Man.
Speaker 8 (20:44):
So one of the things that we do is is
it's always this compare contrast, right, It's always, well, Philly's
doing this and the Niners are doing this, and this
team is doing that, and that's fine, right, and everybody's
going to work things differently. And for the Cowboys, for
as long as I can remember, they have always been
a draft and development.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
That's their model. We go when we do really good
in the draft, and we hope that those guys.
Speaker 8 (21:09):
Are guys that we can bring along and that we
can you know, build up, and then now these be
the guys that we pay the in house guys, aren't.
This team has never really been a team that goes
out into free agency and fish in those ponds like that.
Speaker 6 (21:23):
And I think one.
Speaker 8 (21:24):
Of the things that makes this season a little bit
of gift and a curse.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
At the end of the year.
Speaker 8 (21:30):
And it's gonna be very dependent upon how these next
three games go Tampa Bay, Philadelphia, Washington, Because if for
some reason there was six and eight right now, if
for some reason you go when you win two of
the last three games and now you're sitting at the
end of this year at eight and nine. The Joneses
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may look at this and go, whoa big goal? Huh,
They'll say, where eight and nine with all these injuries
and depleted and you know, we're we're we're gonna get
at some point time, we're gonna get. Well, Dak's coming
back with eight nine and we didn't have Dak. Uh
Parsons probably won't miss four games next year. Maybe we
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can get tanked, you know, back at a discount, and
Sam Williams will be on his way back, and eventually
you're going to get back over shown and maybe we'll
get back Digs at some point in time next year.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
It won't be down to your fifth sixth cornerback.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8 (22:30):
So there there, there's a there's a lot of promise
that goes to this thing, and they go, well, we
don't really have to go out there and dive into
the upper echelon free agents, because if we just bring
them back our core, you know, and and CD's not
dealing with the with the shoulder injury, and Rico's looking good.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
And knee kneeling will get better.
Speaker 8 (22:54):
Hope that hope you right, and so, but this is
so they'll end of this year and go, well, well,
why do I have to go out there and spend
this outrageous amount of money to be competitive? Now notice
I said competitive and not really pushing forward the super
Bowl level type stuff, because what ends up happening is
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you may there may be a level of hopium, and
you bring those guys back and you're competitive until you
run into those teams that said, well, while you were
getting competitive and living and dying on hopium and thinking
that you can go and do this, when you run
into us who said, we're preparing for a super Bowl
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and you're drafting developed guys, ain't better than these established,
high end free agents that we brought in to go
with our high end players that we drafted and developed.
And you see what happened in the playoffs. You run
into the Green Bays, you run into the Niners of
the worlds, you run into you know whoever, the team
that you're detroits.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Of the world.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
And so that's the gift in the curse. But the
Cowboys aren't a team.
Speaker 6 (23:59):
They just aren't.
Speaker 8 (24:00):
They aren't a team that looks to go and to
go all in into the level of free agency, and
like I said, this year, now maybe how they gone
you know, three and three, three and fourteen and it
looked real bad. But they consider that. But there's a
there's a level of hope that's left in. But we
get these guys back with the full training camp, with
(24:22):
the full whole deal, we'll get some of these lower
level free agency and you know, the discounted ones.
Speaker 12 (24:28):
And the learned anything from this year, because I mean Diggs,
who knows this future may be what he's gonna be
like next year, he's not gonna be supposed to be back.
He's gonna miss training camp.
Speaker 8 (24:39):
You know what they say, Dak, We'll find another durn Blair.
We found the right Darron Blair in the fifth round.
That worked out pretty well for us.
Speaker 12 (24:44):
That's what Steven kind of hinted that was the depth
is hurting me. I mean, it's great when your top
stars are healthy, but once they get hurt, then you
don't have that same solid depth.
Speaker 9 (24:55):
The thing that you're saying, Jesse, I'm with you one
hundred perc and you are so correct. The bottom line
is this, you don't even sign back your own guys.
You've let a couple of offensive linemen go. You've let
a couple of You have to sign these guys. Now,
(25:17):
these guys that are like ghosting.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
And Lewis Rico, all these guys, sign them back.
Speaker 9 (25:27):
It's gonna be new guys in their place. And that
and that, that is the issue. Well, we're gonna draft,
we're gonna develop, and that's why Armstrong is gone. That's
why two offensive linemen is gone because we're under drafted
them and we under developed them for somebody else. You
have to make a concerted effort and if it push
you near the cap signing your own, well do it.
(25:47):
But don't tell me you're not gonna push the cap.
You're not gonna get the high end free agents. You're
gonna develop your own and let them go somewhere else.
That is what's been happening here.
Speaker 12 (25:57):
But didn't that. The problem though, is that they are
signed their own. They're just signing really really expensive you know, Lamb,
you know.
Speaker 9 (26:04):
But I'm gonna tell you something as great as Lamb is.
Just line them up there against against loving guys. Hey, Lamb,
have at it. You got forty five million dollars, get them,
get the other eleven guys. It's still got to be
ten guys to go with Lamb.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
You have to if you're gonna.
Speaker 8 (26:19):
Sign your own, sign them, Like I think, to NAT's point,
you signing Lamb and Micah and and Dak, that's a
pre work, that's a prerequisite of this is how you
gotta play football. Like every team has a Dak, a
CD and a Micah. Like that's almost a starter kit.
If you're going to be anything remotely close to being competitive,
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you're gonna have those three level type guys, you know
what I mean, Like you're gonna you can add in
you know, you could add in one of those really
good offensive.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
Linemen you know, into that mix as well.
Speaker 8 (26:51):
But to have a pastor, a pass catcher, a pass rusher,
and a pass protector.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
That's that's that's bottom line, basement levels.
Speaker 9 (27:00):
That's the found the price doing business, right.
Speaker 12 (27:02):
But they that seemed to be their excuse though they
had to pay these digs, Dak, Lamb and.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
Had Parsons come.
Speaker 9 (27:11):
That's where Jones is so masterful that we have been
doing it for him, right. But the media has been
oh you hear you hear the guys sometime at the
place where Jesse's at. Now, hey, well, you know, we're
up against the cap. Okay, and the forty nine up
gainst the cap. Detroit up gets the cap against the.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Cat and Philly Hey, and the and the The comeback
to that is if you would have taken care of
business a year a year and a half before you
were up against the wall and had to pay market
value for a year later when they when those prices
go up by ten million dollars for a receiver, you
(27:52):
were again with Parsons, exactly, get the deal. You know
he's not going anywhere. Get the deal done now, be like, hey,
we don't want you to in this season without being
under contract.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
And let me also say this to my good brother
Michael Parsons.
Speaker 15 (28:05):
Oh yeah, workd you apologize. Got to be the third one,
not get the third one to death.
Speaker 8 (28:18):
Michael, for the love of God, please stop publicly telling
people that you'll take thirty. What's the difference between thirty
and forty? Like, I know you might be trying to
pander to the public, a quart of the court of
public opinion. You're not taking less. You shouldn't even think
(28:41):
about taking less. I know, David malu Getta, your agent.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
How quick do you think he called him listen.
Speaker 8 (28:47):
As soon as David Malot heard that, he goes, hey, listen,
we're not taking like stop like stop, take a page
out of Tate Lawrence's book.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
That ain't my problem.
Speaker 8 (29:00):
That ain't how they got a maneuver and work the
cap ain't min get.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
It anyway, tag me whatever you gotta do.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
Stop saying that you're gonna stop saying you.
Speaker 8 (29:09):
I know you want to be a cowboy for life,
that's good, but you need to be a cowboy for
life at the highest price that you can get it.
Don't don't take a dollar less than what you absolutely
and you.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Know you know who's probably calling him as well, the
Miles Garants of the world, all those guys, because they're like, bro,
you having our price now.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
Also, the nfl P is like, hey, hey, listen, you're
you're a high profile dude.
Speaker 8 (29:32):
What we're not gonna do is a union is let
you take less than what you're supposed to take to
stay with the team, because that that man.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
Everyone wasn't for everybody else.
Speaker 8 (29:40):
So don't don't say that publicly, bro, Like, don't don't
say that publicly. Just just say, hey, we're gonna do
whatever we gotta do to get a cab, to be
a cowboy for life and whether that however, you.
Speaker 6 (29:49):
Worked that behind the scenes. But but don't don't. Don't
kill your bargain in the public right now.
Speaker 8 (29:55):
Man, No, listen, do like Dion said, they're gonna have
to put me on lay away.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
That's how big my price gonna be. Thank you, Jesse.
Speaker 9 (30:06):
And Parsons, do what you gotta do. Listen to Jesse,
But cowboys, y'all still have to pay the other these
other guys. I don't want to have another year where okay,
we pay Parsons and then y'all tell us as fans
and I'm not speaking as a football guy. I'm just
as a fan. Don't tell me like, okay, well kind
(30:27):
of had of that old so to go. Man, We
was just on the board of getting Chauncey done. But no, no, no,
we gotta have players to compete because one time you
can't play for pay for guys and let fifty forty
(30:48):
nine of them just wander out there. You can't and
not be competitive.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
All right, let's take our last break when we come back.
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Speaker 7 (33:50):
Chris is at home listening to the show.
Speaker 6 (33:52):
Texted He's listening.
Speaker 8 (33:53):
Text he's probably like knee deep on Fortnite.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
Yeah, back when backpacking wait waiting, Yeah, and.
Speaker 9 (34:00):
An overdose.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
Or already hyped him up on some talent jumping here women,
help me get some duves. So what do you all
want to do the last ten minutes?
Speaker 9 (34:12):
Well, how long does it take to do just quickly?
How does it take to do one of them Fortnite games?
Like ten minutes?
Speaker 13 (34:18):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (34:18):
Probably it depends on how quick Fortnite of Call of Duty.
We're on Fortnite now that Fortnite moved off. We used
to be Call of Duty and then they jacked with
the game, and then and then Fortnite started. They released
some really cool every season, like every month they have
a different map and a different theme. They had like
the X Men theme where you can.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
Do difference that I was buying banana suits at Yeah.
Speaker 7 (34:39):
Yeah, that was the Fortnite So everybody.
Speaker 8 (34:41):
I can't believe grown men spent their hard earned American.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
Dollars bana suits. Yeah, banana skins, digital ones, you know.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
But there's no one in our friend group that's on
before like ten or eleven o'clock because they all have kids' ability.
They have to put the kids to bed and put
the wife to sleep and then they jump on and
then they play from like ten eleven to like.
Speaker 7 (35:05):
Two or three in the morning. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
Depends what I quit me about three minutes.
Speaker 9 (35:11):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (35:11):
But if you if you win a game.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
It's probably takes.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
It sounds like your sex stop. It sounds like you said.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
If you win, if you win the game, get out
of it.
Speaker 7 (35:20):
If you make.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
It to the if you make it to the end,
it's about twenty twenty five minutes, All right, go ahead
on two.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
So twenty five minutes.
Speaker 8 (35:28):
I mean you've got to get like if y'all love
from eleven to about three o'clock in the morning, that's
like it's like ten twelve games, y'allah.
Speaker 7 (35:34):
Yeah, it depends like it depends on what's going on.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
If people have work early in the morning, if they
got meetings, they will jump off. But if you know,
like weekends, it's hell, you might you lose and you
lose track of time. Like it's if you don't have
anything to do the next day, you look up and
it's two thirty in the morning, like what you like,
and then you say one more and then you have
an unwritten rule. If you win, you have to play
another one, like gambling, Like you can't go out on
a losing hand, like you got to play one more,
(35:58):
so you in and then you know, yeah, yeah, so
there you go.
Speaker 8 (36:03):
Nice all right, Happy backpacking Chris, Yeah, happy backpacking Chris.
Speaker 12 (36:09):
So I do have a question for these guys, if
you don't mind me asking. Well, we've been talking about
young guys and building the roster and all that. I
was amazed at that came out that Jalen Brooks touchdown
in that last game. There were seven undrafted players on
the field for Dallas. The eleven offensive guys, seven of
them were undrafted. Part of me thinks that's that's amazing.
You're doing some great as McCarthy said, drafting in the
(36:32):
eighth round or whatever, you're really finding guys. Part of
me is like, that's why we're where we.
Speaker 8 (36:36):
Are, right exactly. No, you hit it right on the head.
You hit it right on the head. And you know
this this league when you when you cut out all
the fluff right, cut all the hooplah, cut out all
of the streaming services, cut out all of the fan fare,
cut out all of the cut out all.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
Of it, cut out all of it. It's a players league.
Speaker 8 (37:00):
Okay, there's a reason why guys go in the first round.
There's a reason why guys go undrafted. Now, not saying
that you can't miss in either miss on a guy
in the first round.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
We know that.
Speaker 8 (37:15):
Can have a guy be a stalworth in your organization
as an undrafted guy. But there is reason, there is
a reason why these guys are where they're where they're at, you.
Speaker 6 (37:29):
Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 14 (37:29):
And so.
Speaker 8 (37:31):
You're not gonna find very many teams who are highly
successful with a bunch of guys in the seventh and
to Mike McCarthy eighth round type situation, those that are
really successive, that are really successful they're gonna be primarily
dominating with guys of the of the higher caliber. You
(37:53):
know what I'm saying, Like, again, I don't want to
knock anybody from round one through eight seven. But there's
a reason for that, because this is a players league.
There's a reason why there's a Justin Jefferson in the world,
and he's in a class by himself. There's a reason
why there's a CD Lamb of the world. There's a
(38:14):
reason why there's a Patrick Mahomes in the world, and
then there's everybody else because those type of dudes matter.
They are the reason you hoist Lombards and you don't.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
There's a reason why coach Belichick's coaching in college and
not still in the league.
Speaker 6 (38:32):
Right, he found that quarterback, he found a gym.
Speaker 8 (38:35):
He found a gym in the seventh round, right, and
then when the gym in the seventh round turned into
first round quality.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
He went with a super Bowl is another team, and
then coach Belichick's out of the league.
Speaker 8 (38:45):
And right, but you go, but you go look at
those teams, you go say, oh, yeah, there's a there's
a Vitch Wolfork in the mix. There's a second round
Rob Gronkowski in the mix. There's a Matt Light in
the first round type mix. And there's a Woody, there's
a Damien Woody an offensive, there's a you know, there's
a key to leave on the outside, you know there
there there's a reason why those things happen the way
(39:08):
that they do, and and and and that's because this
is a This is like I said, remove everything.
Speaker 6 (39:13):
It's a players league.
Speaker 8 (39:14):
So you know, when you line up seven of the
eleven players on the team, it's undrafted free agents.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
Credit to them. That's not a formula of success.
Speaker 12 (39:25):
Nice bro, you got Kurt Oh okay, well, oh, let's say.
Speaker 9 (39:32):
You had no follow up, no follow Yes, he did
a great job.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
You don't have a follow up.
Speaker 12 (39:40):
I'm ready for cinnamon rolls.
Speaker 6 (39:43):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:44):
Oh, shout out to mom Mama Gross who.
Speaker 9 (39:51):
Brought him up by now, and then.
Speaker 6 (39:54):
Shout out to Mama Gross. Buns. There you go, the
disrespect to Mama Gross.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
There with all their respect over there in the bag.
Speaker 9 (40:02):
So yeah, well, why we ain't seen them yet because.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
I didn't want you eating on the air because you
show you you show wings on that Well, yeah, that's
a that's a sponsor sponsored to the and we know
how he was up. We know how good the we
know how good the the podcast is when we're all
eating on the air and licking our fingers and smacking, and.
Speaker 12 (40:26):
You better watch that bag.
Speaker 14 (40:27):
Just grab it up.
Speaker 7 (40:28):
I know he's got his own.
Speaker 15 (40:30):
He has.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
His own and she even writes his name on it
and everything.
Speaker 6 (40:38):
So yeah, she makes.
Speaker 12 (40:39):
It thank you textas trashing and whatever she calls.
Speaker 5 (40:41):
You got a lot of y'all want something.
Speaker 6 (40:43):
What is that?
Speaker 5 (40:43):
I want the buns, the checks mixed and yeah the president.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
That's that's a good little we got.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
We got like eight containers at the house and she
made probably y'all.
Speaker 8 (40:53):
Man, Hey, I want to give a shout out. Yeah, yeah,
give us out to my god, Roger. Roger loves loves love,
love loves loves our show. We keep Roger laughing. Man,
So Roger, appreciate your brother. Thank you so much for
the support. I know I know that you're a huge
fan of mine, but we're a huge fan of yours, Roger,
So thank you so much for watching out. He was
he was watching the show last week. He said he
thought I was gonna eat my fingers off when we
(41:14):
were eating the wings. And these are so good man,
those wings are so good. So yeah, I see why
you don't want to bring those buns out.
Speaker 6 (41:22):
Yeah the show, Yeah, yeah, we save it. We'll put
you on.
Speaker 9 (41:27):
Roger.
Speaker 12 (41:28):
Gary Thomlinson heard you was talking about fishing yesterday and
Prime It's got a spot for you if you want
to go.
Speaker 9 (41:34):
All right, Hey, you sent it to me. But I'm
not a fish man unless it's a fish shack where
you can go get some fried fish.
Speaker 7 (41:44):
What's your favorite kind of fish fish?
Speaker 9 (41:47):
I like catfish, catfish, catfish man, and uh yeah, if
you get some good catfish that you can slice really
thin and fry it crispy, why nothing better?
Speaker 6 (42:00):
Whiting's fish?
Speaker 9 (42:01):
What's a whiting?
Speaker 6 (42:02):
Whiting?
Speaker 12 (42:03):
Is that?
Speaker 6 (42:04):
It's a type of fish, whiting whiting? Never heard of that.
Speaker 8 (42:09):
I know, g from Jersey watching from Jersey. Know whitings fish?
Speaker 7 (42:12):
What kind of fish is it?
Speaker 6 (42:13):
It's a white fish, look it up.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
Is it an ocean fish or like a river fish?
Speaker 6 (42:17):
Fresh water or Atlantic ocean? I guess I don't know.
Whiting fish from the East Coast. I've never heard fried.
Speaker 9 (42:24):
His sister said, Man, I love seafood.
Speaker 6 (42:26):
What you're gonna eat catfish?
Speaker 5 (42:29):
Yeah? Fried speckled trout.
Speaker 12 (42:33):
Speckled trout out of golf or red snapper.
Speaker 6 (42:38):
Sheckle?
Speaker 14 (42:38):
What trout?
Speaker 7 (42:40):
Whiting whiting fish?
Speaker 5 (42:42):
Is that it?
Speaker 9 (42:43):
See?
Speaker 6 (42:44):
Yeah, I guess that's it.
Speaker 5 (42:46):
I just see that's a sick looking.
Speaker 6 (42:50):
I need.
Speaker 9 (42:50):
I'm gonna tell you what.
Speaker 8 (42:52):
When they play that thing and put three pieces of
two pieces of white bread and.
Speaker 9 (42:56):
We go down, we go down south and we go
down south, down south. Uh, we've been known to fry
the whole fish. No, My wife.
Speaker 14 (43:09):
Like, what is that.
Speaker 9 (43:12):
Fish?
Speaker 14 (43:13):
You got?
Speaker 6 (43:13):
Do you eat raccoon and squirrels?
Speaker 5 (43:17):
I went back and listen.
Speaker 9 (43:20):
That is gone.
Speaker 5 (43:22):
I went back and listened to that that is gone
about six times. I showed my mom and Patty and
it was just like the way that they just shut
down on him is like they.
Speaker 6 (43:33):
Just like rain the squirrel.
Speaker 9 (43:37):
I got.
Speaker 6 (43:38):
I got maybe he knows something we don't.
Speaker 9 (43:40):
Maybe I got some homeboys who brother, he'd be eating
the squirrels and stuff and h I mean, you know
in college, you know how you don't have a lot
to eat? You know, you're in college, you're trying to
make a meal.
Speaker 6 (43:53):
I want I.
Speaker 8 (43:53):
Couldn't even division I want your Division one university. Yeah,
once I got the call in the Best Life. You
never got left on the porch.
Speaker 9 (44:03):
You catage.
Speaker 6 (44:04):
No, no, no, I want to go back. They didn't
forget about me.
Speaker 9 (44:07):
And that's why I hate tell his knees that you
don't want to go down.
Speaker 6 (44:12):
Yeah, you don't want to go live.
Speaker 5 (44:16):
What's what's either to end the show? What's either the
nastiest thing you've ever eaten or something you eat or
something you really you can't be in the.
Speaker 7 (44:26):
Country and not. I don't like ok either fried okra.
Speaker 9 (44:30):
My grandmather know you just put it in the peas
and stuff. Oh my god, that stuff. So try to
force me to eat that? Oh my god.
Speaker 13 (44:37):
Man.
Speaker 5 (44:37):
What's the nastiest either the nastiest thing or something you
ate that you never thought you would eat?
Speaker 12 (44:43):
Well for me to growing up, I hated Okra Man
like question.
Speaker 14 (44:53):
Kanya green.
Speaker 12 (44:54):
Okra Man had some kind of Japanese sushi thing was
like some weird eel. It was awful.
Speaker 8 (45:00):
It's bad, horrible, Oh, kangaroo and veggimont.
Speaker 6 (45:05):
What is it called veggie vegimonemon stuff? Is it bad?
Kangaroof teller? Terrible and veggimon.
Speaker 9 (45:14):
Why would you want an animal that's that you can
see they just sayin't nothing but muscle kangaroo, like you know, winning.
Speaker 6 (45:21):
A room as a rooms.
Speaker 9 (45:22):
You know, the Romans see that kangaroo while you eat it,
just trying to punch.
Speaker 7 (45:27):
You eat the right parts, the parts.
Speaker 9 (45:32):
Would you eat of the kangaroo.
Speaker 6 (45:35):
The tender parts.
Speaker 5 (45:37):
That's see, that's what happens when you speak before you
actually think it, because.
Speaker 9 (45:44):
That thing is the muscles.
Speaker 6 (45:47):
Man, what's the nastis thinking you have eaten.
Speaker 5 (45:52):
I can't think of the nasties because I've eaten some
nasty stuff.
Speaker 16 (45:56):
Take that how you take that you want? But like
something don't get kb in here.
Speaker 5 (46:09):
But something I ate that I never thought i'd eat
was like caviar, like really high dollar caviar, like two
hundred dollars an ounce.
Speaker 7 (46:18):
It didn't really have a tast It's kind of like guacamole.
Speaker 5 (46:21):
It's like you hear all this great stuff about it
and you put it in your mouth and it's like there's.
Speaker 6 (46:25):
Something like risk.
Speaker 8 (46:25):
People like, well you're just really yeah, that's just come on,
that's not yeah, Like that's like.
Speaker 6 (46:30):
Come on, do you eat it?
Speaker 9 (46:31):
What type of cracker? Do you eat it on?
Speaker 6 (46:33):
Like a saltine?
Speaker 14 (46:35):
I mean level.
Speaker 9 (46:36):
This call two hundred dollars an ounce and then you
eat it with a Yeah.
Speaker 6 (46:41):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 8 (46:42):
It's just one of those privileged steaks. It's it's because
I'm privileged.
Speaker 14 (46:45):
I can.
Speaker 9 (46:47):
I know sardines. Sardines is good.
Speaker 6 (46:49):
You you so, I'll tell you. I know. We got
to go.
Speaker 7 (46:53):
I used to work at a pizza place. That was
my first job.
Speaker 5 (46:55):
We used to have my back that would did he text.
I used to have a guy that would order a
sardine pizza with no cheese. It was dope sauce and sardines,
and it smelt like Holy hell.
Speaker 9 (47:14):
It was awful ses with grape jelly and cheese. He
thought that was.
Speaker 5 (47:23):
High living.
Speaker 9 (47:23):
He was straight out of George Hello, Jerry Joyce.
Speaker 5 (47:26):
And then probably eating side of spam with it.
Speaker 14 (47:29):
Noon. You want song, you know what, but got it?
Speaker 9 (47:40):
I'm going on my fat reserve.
Speaker 5 (47:44):
All right, let's go eat some cinnamon. Jest seeing you, Kirk.
We'll see you all tomorrow.
Speaker 9 (47:49):
Home day, Josh.
Speaker 5 (47:52):
Thanks everybody that contributed to the show. Chris, hope Loki
feels better. We will be back tomorrow, same time, same place.
Speaker 9 (47:58):
On some bonds.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
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