April 3, 2025 • 50 mins
The Cowboys have acquired or signed quite a few players this offseason who they liked coming out of college but haven’t done much in the NFL. Is that the right strategy? Is this just for depth? Can they help them develop into something more? Plus, will the leash be short for head coach Brian Schottenheimer? And was it a surprise to hear him say there were building the roster from the outside in?
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 7 (01:39):
How are y'all?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Great Man Jesse is wearing a very unusual color for
him today, Say is that lime or booker?
Speaker 7 (01:48):
Green?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Booker?
Speaker 7 (01:51):
Why it's pretty?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
I like it's a it's a good color on you.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
You could have said it slime greeny.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Slime green.
Speaker 7 (01:59):
No, No, I have a four year old.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
I was trying to kind of combat the drilliness of
the weather with light colors, like I don't want to
dress with the weather to make me feel.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Even more bright.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Yeah, I wanted to go opposite color to like it.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
You don't wear a lot of colors.
Speaker 7 (02:16):
You wear a lot of pastels.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
Yeah, like I will like you know, mauv and salmon,
muted muted colors and and and like lilac, lavender.
Speaker 8 (02:28):
Lilac, you know, Carl Burnt.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Things like that, eat Man and Ny. You look good
as always with your fight T shirt on.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
If it's free. As for me, that's the model.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Right, always looking dapper in your butt?
Speaker 7 (02:45):
Can you believe I.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Still got the sweats be waring from when you played
nineteen eighties.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
You I believe it.
Speaker 7 (02:54):
I do too.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
Still you still well, you're still with a team issue
with the socks, are you?
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Are you a pack rat?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah? I'm Finn unpacked, bro, because I don't want to
fall in my house in this nineteen sixty your order, yeah,
your clothes, wise and shoes, yeah, because I don't wash stuff.
But over and over us we wear this sage stuff
over and over and over and over.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Lot that stuff go, man, Yeah, I got to that stuff.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
I have a question for you. At the end of
the show. We need to talk football first. We'll do
this backwards from what we normally do.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Normally we don't talk football except the last five minutes.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Let's try to flip it. Talk some football because a
lot going on right the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Is it a trade? Is that what we're saying? Is
it final yet or is it still pending? I hadn't
seen official.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Word, but it's everywhere.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
It's officially unofficial.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Officially, what is the officially unofficial word? Kurt?
Speaker 8 (03:46):
They are acquiring Joe Milton, quarterback from the Patriots with
a seven round pick in exchange for a fifth rounder.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Now we knew that we're going to bring at least
one more quarterback. In thought it was going to be
the draft. How do you got guys? Obviously he's going
to get a lot of reps in training camp because
you're probably gonna.
Speaker 7 (04:05):
Rest back a lot.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Will are going to get those reps.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I mean, that's really it. Like he's a body, right,
he's a camp body? Is he a camp body?
Speaker 7 (04:18):
Joe?
Speaker 5 (04:18):
He'll be here for a while.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Well, I'm just saying he's a guy that's going to
take reps and feel you've got to have bodies in camp.
We're not getting rid of him. After camp, He'll he'll
be around. He's an extra.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Body in the quarterback room. So is he worth a
what was it? Seventh rounder?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Fifth?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Fifth rounder? They got Milton and a seventh rounder?
Speaker 7 (04:43):
Do you like?
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Are you okay with that?
Speaker 5 (04:47):
I think mhm.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
The compensation wise, because we're gonna all we're going to
compare this to the Tree Lance situation, right that where
we're gonna that's just natural thing that we do. Compensation wise.
The Cowboys won, Okay, they they cut a better deal
than they did with the tray Land situation.
Speaker 7 (05:06):
Okay, you don't hear that often, right, lately they.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
I think they won. I think they won in this deal.
I think New England wanted to get rid of Joe Milton.
They've had him and seen what he has and the
Cowboys and this has been talked about for a while now,
for a couple of weeks maybe maybe even like right
after the combine you started hearing the conversations about Joe
Milton and New England had kind of wanted the high
price early on and they thought they can get abe
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flee somebody for Joe Milton. Now, now when you get
to the player, now, the Cowboys have him for another
three more years for just a little over three million dollars.
They think it's three and a half. So they have
control over this player for the next three years, which
is the that's developmental time, right like you have time
to develop him. This isn't this isn't a one year
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deal where he has to come in right now and
do something right now. My, my, here's my only issue
with this. If I gave you blind statistics, if I
didn't tell you who this player was, and I just
told you that he was six foot five, two hundred
and thirty pounds, ran a four to five or four
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to six whatever it was at the combine as Pro day,
excuse me, And and can throw the ball country bomb,
you think, let's go. The only problem, and it's a
big problem, is Joe Milton has a cannon. Yeah, doesn't
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know where the ball's gonna go. I don't think doesn't
know where the ball's gonna go. Doesn't He can throw
a flat footed seventy five eighty yards, can throw a
ten yard out route forty feet over somebody's head. Really,
that is That's Joe. That's been Joe Milton's problem at Tennessee.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
It's bitten.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
He throws. He is a fastball pitcher and you're standing
five yards away from him.
Speaker 7 (07:03):
Was the name Vne And.
Speaker 6 (07:07):
Like he could throw the ball one hundred miles an hour,
throw it a country mile.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
But he he'll struggle.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
Throwing a five yard out route to the guy right
that right that right out in front of him, or
ten yard out route or something, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Like it's the accuracy.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
It's just you never know where the football is going
to go with this kid, and I don't.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
I don't know if this staff has a quarterback developer
on it. But it's it's one of those. It's a project.
It's the new experiment for the Cowboys to have someone
tweets him as earlier like all you know quarterbacks on experiment,
and that's fair, especially the backup ones. But if you're
looking for Joe Milton to come in if that gets
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hurt this season, to come in and fill that role
and win you mini games, I think you had a
better shot with Cooper Rush doing that than you would
with Joe Milton.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Why my question would be, why is New England giving
up on him? So they drafting what last year staff?
Speaker 6 (08:02):
New culture staff comes in, they don't. We said this
before on this show. When a new coaching staff comes in,
they don't have anybody that was drafted before they got there.
They have no loyalties to you.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
But when it comes to a quarterback though, it's so
hard to hit on a quarterback, even a new coaching staff.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
You're giving up on him after one year?
Speaker 6 (08:23):
Yeah, but that new culture staff says, I know a
backup guy that we had in.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
But if he had anything, wouldn't they have held on
to him? Like especially there they need.
Speaker 6 (08:31):
Quarterbacks there, I guess, but I mean that would be
my only Rabel haus come in and said, not my guy,
don't have a need for him.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
Let's see if we can't get something for him.
Speaker 8 (08:41):
I do think though, that it's a good deal in
that Are you going to get a better anybody better
with a fifth round pick or a developed This is
not supposed to be a great quarterback class coming in
this year's draft. You got one year one guy he's
already had. He had a pretty decent game in the
last game last years. Is a guy that can still develop,
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and I don't think they would have found anybody better
worth developing in this year.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
That's fair.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Somebody once told me a great guy, great philosopher, a
great guy that breaks down things real. Well, if we
get to this guy during the season, we'll be drafting
number one. Yeah, so was told me that agreed with
a Burger green shirt and we'll get to.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
The back of quarterback.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I'm be honest with you, man. Some I love hear
Jess talk. That's why I did not interrupt it and
blow it all up. You know what I'm saying, because
this wasn't even worth talking about.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
What you are absolutely right, it's it's but only here.
Speaker 7 (09:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Dallas Calboy, Dallas Cowboys quarterback position does in.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
The a block the backup quarterback become a topic of discussion.
It becomes national news all the it's.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Even our head coach, you had to say it is
no competition. I'm like, why is he got to say
it's no competition for Dak? Your head coach is saying
this on a national and.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
Even And here's the thing about. Here's the thing about
a developmental quarterback. And this is.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
With any team, not just the Cowboys, but any team.
If someone is developmental, right, in order to get that development,
that person must need reps.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Yes, that is the.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
Biggest problem when you're talking about backup players in this league.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
The reps aren't there. When when when Dak.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
Gets back and he's doing this thing at OTAs, he
wants those reps. He wants those reps with CD if
they go to they go to decide to get another
wide receiver from this draft. He wants those reps with
that guy. They with the offensive line. You know what
it is in training camp?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah, good good luck telling him with the new coaching staff, Hey,
you sit.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
These out, you know what I mean?
Speaker 7 (10:58):
No, he's not. Yeah, he's gonna be like a bro.
I need this.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
The bigger part of it is it comes down to,
is how am I going to develop this guy into
the player that we need him to be when all
my meaningful reps are going to the guy who I
need as a head coach?
Speaker 5 (11:16):
And at least is gonna be pretty short.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
I think for Schottenheimer, you don't you you ain't getting three, four,
five years to get this thing right.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
You're gonna You're gonna get a year, maybe year and.
Speaker 7 (11:24):
A half, you think so.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Yeah, I think he's gonna get two years.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
I think at least two years because they rebuilding broh.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I mean two maybe three, just based off of Jerry's
law team, what he said in the past, that he's
had the hook too quick.
Speaker 7 (11:39):
You the way that this thing is just here two years.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Discuss this because I wanted to discuss that.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Why would you hire a coach that you think so
much of that you are And I know, Jerry, I'm.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
Glad you said that because your head coach and your
owners said the other day in the own was meeting
that this he didn't plan on hiring his coach.
Speaker 7 (12:04):
As the head coach. Yeah, it's going to take a
whole second.
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To come, Jesse, and.
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Speaker 1 (16:10):
Before we go going on, I'm sorry, Chris, before we
stopped talking about the length of our new coach and
I'm talking about him being here.
Speaker 7 (16:19):
Asked, thank you for clarifying you were going.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
I just want to say that I like your second
one on this. He have ideas for us every day,
and I like the second team is signing and acquiring
a lot of players they like in the draft. But
it didn't but but haven't done much in the NFL.
So what you're saying is other teams that we liked
their players in the draft, we didn't get them. But
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now we coming back after day.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
Somebody else didn't want them, we get.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
We're gonna talk about that after Jesse tell us why
our coach shouldn't be here more than two years.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Let's table that.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Let's talk about what this is gonna be a long
conversation Okay, they have done that, right. They did that
with Mingo last year and it was like uh, and
then they've done that this offseason where they would have
a first, second, third round grade on a guy that
somebody would get him before they wanted him, that team
doesn't want him, right, and now he's here. It's almost
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like it's almost like our second round draft strategy, right,
you know what, we really like this guy. We had
a first round grade on him. He fell to the
second round, but you know he's got an injury issue.
You know, Bruce Carter was one, Jalen Smith was one.
But if we do hit on this one, I mean,
how many times do we have to If we were right,
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then we were right and we got a hell of
a player.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
How many how many wasted.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Picks and slots and all that are you going to
go through before you start going.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Okay, wait a minute, let's just how do y'all feel
about it?
Speaker 8 (17:51):
They're trusting that their development system is better than yours,
you know that they can bring these guys in and
find another.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Level or they got the talent, the measurables.
Speaker 8 (18:00):
That kind of thing. Yeah, he has a noise worked
has it ever worked out?
Speaker 1 (18:04):
I know system plays a lot, but you do have
to be a player with some ability first to fit
into right. So I mean, and I'm not saying that, Okay,
he go to Kansas City, he may not play well.
Kansas City got a lot more blue chip players than us,
so you may say, Okay, Kansas City, but this dude
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running around with guys on our level and he's not better.
Because I'm if I'm signing a guy at this stage
with the record we had and what our future look like,
these guys are gonna be lining up in OTA's pressing
our guys that are already in place. You know, the
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Jonathan Kidd, the wire receiver from the Carolinas. I always
believe when they gave up the fourth I thought, at
least by the second week, you should throw him six
or seven balls, get this hiding one in the right direction.
But it was the sixth, sixth week we was in
and all of a sudden, then what we wanted to
throw to him that that is a guy that you
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liked it, that was a guy that was on your board.
So is we going to get a lot of that
coming down the pike? That that'll be sad, That'll be sad. Well,
you know he didn't play well for the other team.
Speaker 7 (19:21):
Well why why is he here?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Why did we sign him?
Speaker 3 (19:24):
And there is now there is a part of this
that as a GM and as you know Will McLay,
you can't ever just stop bringing those guys in. You
gotta bring them in and test them. And there's always
going to be that. As fans you look at and
go here we go again. But you you always have
to keep churning the roster and bringing guys in or
you're or what are you doing here?
Speaker 7 (19:45):
Right?
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Like you say, any job, you got to keep trying
to be innovative and keep trying to push forward.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
So there's always going to be that.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
It's just frustrating when it seems like nobody works out
and when they do, they're a practice squad guy up
that you bring up and they might get in for
five plays a game.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
Right.
Speaker 8 (20:01):
I think these guys they brought in some good depth,
which I think may have been their goal in this
free agency process. So but it's I just don't know
if they have that impact guy that's always all of
a sudden gonna explode up to another level or whatever.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
You got a kicker, kicker right that nobody was knowing
nobody's radar right, pump returner and a pump returner.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
So I mean it works out every once in a while,
hell of a pump returner.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Like so, I guess for every twenty of those guys
you bring in, if you can get a Cavante Turpin
and a you know, Brandon Aubrey.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
No, you got to hit more than that because your
team is your team is the middle of the road, right,
you got to hit them more than that. You these guys,
but can you hit what are you? I know we
can't give records because we don't know these guys, but
it's got to be some level of expectation that you
you're at, you know, as a coaching staff, I know
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you're gonna have to up most respect. When we brought
this game, we believe in them wholeheartedly. Then we get
into meetings you tell the truth to the rest of man.
I don't know. Yeah, yeah, So what we have to
do here is when you bring a player in and
I'm just going about what Jimmy did with us when
he didn't bring a player in to threaten you. He
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brought a player in to get your job. It's called competition.
And right about. Okay, it ain't but three guys got
contracts or four guys got contracts. That's worthy of anything.
It's got to be full fledged competition. Whoever makes it
through training camp ho a solt for hard you think
training camp is the survivors are gonna be your starters,
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not because I like you, or because you got a
lot of money, or because you got great technique out
there's what you do in that game. So if they're
not willing to push these guys, you know, and and
and in the tub, you definitely ain't gonna make the club.
You know, we can't have you. You got to set
a new president, President president. You got to set that
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rat started the OTAs guys that are showing up Monday, Okay.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
Let's see who's showing up.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Let's see who really cares about the scene. Because if
you if you're doing it in any other way, the
way and just projections the way Philadelphia looks, the way
the commanders look and the way New York Defense plays,
we can't not have competition. Guys. You got to show
the fans that we're going in the right direction. You know,
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that's just what I feel.
Speaker 6 (22:37):
Too many, too many average to below average players. It
fills your roster. It doesn't lend for success. When you
mentioned names like Kansas City, you talk about how many
other top tier guys that they have. When you when
you have a roster of of really good players and
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all of them doesn't have.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
To be superstars, that's right.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
What it allows you to do now is to be
specific in the use of those guys who are below
average to average. If I'm banking on four or five
six guys, you hear the term of man, he has
to play above his pay grade or above his whatever
draft status.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
I can't depend on five or six guys.
Speaker 10 (23:23):
Do that?
Speaker 5 (23:24):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Okay, cool, Cavante Turpin, he played above above expectation. But
if I need Cavante Turpin to play above expectation, if
I need, you know, my dbs to play above expectation,
the linebackers to play above expectation, and some wide receivers,
that's a lot because someone isn't a group of them
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are not. And so now what does that leave your
football team? So it's it's and when you see a
lot of these guys come in and you talk about
the development and all that kind of stuff, This is
even biblical. It's you know where your treasures lie, your
heart will follow. If a guys coming in on a
one year deal, I don't know how much time I'm
(24:12):
gonna give that to really truly development, because you're not
gonna be here long term, right. It's it's where you're
not gonna get the opportunity that the other ones will get.
But if I'm dependent upon you to do something and
you can't meet that now, it leaves us in a
very bad situation. And football is one of those spots,
unlike any other sport, where you need, for the most part,
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I need eleven guys doing something at the same time
consistently in order for me to have sustained success.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
Because teams that you face are far too smart, you can't.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
It's very difficult to hide bad football players.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
It's tough. We're going to find you.
Speaker 7 (24:57):
We know who you are.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
We've up in a part of games where the starting
quarterback goes down. What happens to very next player when
that backup comes in, The offense goes We're going at him.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
He been on the sideline for a while. He ain't
the best guy.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
You can even say, hey guy, we're going at you.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
You know, you look, all of a sudden, the number
one receiver playing slot all day, All of a sudden,
Now he lied aboutside over that guy, you.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (25:23):
Or you know what that side of that defensive line
ain't ain't it? Or that left tackle ain't it? They go,
no problem, here's what we're gonna run the games at
right here. You guys are gonna have to either give
tight end help, running back help, but we're gonna attack
this guy right.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
Here until you fix it.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
And so it's difficult to hide those guys. So you
want to put as many guys on the field as
possible that can hold their own and their norm isn't
I need him to play above this. I need him
to be what he do. I need him do what
he do, and we're gonna be all right. And then
you can sprinkle in those guys. We're saying like, all right, listen,
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I need.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
You to do this.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
I need you to do this one specific thing. Go
do that, and I can put you off the field.
I can hide you off the field, but I can
get you in there to do so. The Cowboys are
filling their rosters with a lot of guys who are
below to average players, and when you when you're when
you're trying to go out and win football games against
really good football teams who have guys who just line
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up and who they are are already better than you
without them having to play at another level, but needing
you to play above where you're at. It's just a
it's a tough business to be in, and and and
that's why you want them to kind of go out
there and and and not just go get the second tier,
third tier level guys. Yes, you need that depth, but
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I need some more guys to go with that. I
need some more guys on the front line to go
with that. So those guys who are average at best,
they can come in and do whatever that average thing
they can do consistently and not have that amount of
pressure on them to be greater than what they will.
Speaker 8 (27:00):
So instead of the twenty million or whatever they spend
on the ten guys, should they have spent twenty million
on five or something.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
It helps your football team.
Speaker 7 (27:10):
Good players for impact players.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
Good players help your football team. Good players help your
football team. Man, you get you get more of those
in your football team, you win super Bowls. I mean
you saw you're sitting across from a three times Super
Bowl champion. They had a lot of damn good players
on their football team.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
So spend more money on fewer Dante Fowlers than these
guys you're going and getting that could turn into something, right.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
That that hope and that wish, that player is this.
You know, I don't I don't want to keep using
them as reference, but they are a reference point. Philadelphia
go and get good. They go and get players that
are damn good, and now you have to play them.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
You go, where's the holes?
Speaker 6 (27:49):
They don't have any? But then they just dominate everywhere,
your your week, your week. Up front, no problem. Their
best offensive line in the league dominates you. Oh you
got holes in your offensive line, no worries. They got
the best defensive line, they dominate you. They got good
corners that come out there and play. They got a
great running back, they got great receivers. They got you know,
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a good, a good okay quarterback that that that that
type of force coming at you down in, down out.
You know, series in, series out, it's tough.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
It's rare, very rare that a guy two and a
half to three years in it's rare. Every now and
then you'll find that guy that's two to three years
in and you get him and he explode for you
in the NFL. Now that happens in college. They got
a kid at Ohio stayed a linebacker, walk on, didn't
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play much his second year, third year, and now this
dude projected go in the first round, big a linebacker,
nice kid. That happens there a lot in college where
you study growing, you study developing mentally, physically, you study growing.
When you get here about three four years in, you
about twenty seven years old, you get into your peak.
You almost at you in your peak gears, you are
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basically who say you are, are what you.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Are, right, Yeah, all right, let's take our last break.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
When we come back, Jesse's gonna tell us why our
coach is only gonna be here for one year and.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Nate, Jess, I just can't believe it.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
And Nate's gonna tell us his thoughts on a comment
that coach had that that may.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
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Speaker 7 (29:24):
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The moment you have all been waiting for, Jesse's gonna
tell us why our coach is only gonna be here
for the twenty twenty five season.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Jesse, the floor is yours.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
And then you said a year and a half, So
I'm not go along with which he's saying by time
the middle of the off season, they'll decide.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
This time next year.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
I'm saying the least. The least for Brian Schottenheimer is
not as long as the coaches passed, and mainly not
necessarily because of him, just the way that I mean, Chris,
how long have you been here?
Speaker 7 (32:26):
I'm about to hit twenty six seasons?
Speaker 5 (32:27):
Twenty six seasons, you've been here thirty right? Plus right?
How long have you been here?
Speaker 8 (32:35):
About fifteen?
Speaker 4 (32:36):
You twenty two, twenty one.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
I've been here since O nine right. So whatever that
math breaks out there, we would say we're all season
vets of this organization.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Right.
Speaker 6 (32:48):
Have you ever seen the way that the fan base
has been in this last year at any point in.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Time, never ever since ever since Landry? They got this way?
Coach Landry is in years.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
It was ugly. It's been ugly.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
It has been ugly, and so the revolt from the
fan base if you go through another losing season. That's
why I said a year and a half, because you'll
go through the season and you'll get to that next season,
and if that is not going the way that you planned.
I don't see a way that they can keep this
coach and still keep this this fan base.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
I do if they keep selling out games, they're saying,
that's what he's saying. You think cowboy fans are gonna
quick come into games. They can't get out of them
seat license, the season tickets.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
They just read up, coach, they're gonna be coming. They
just read up.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
And a lot of fans I've seen from social media
are upsetting.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Yeah, they're pissed off, but they still boy them tickets,
they still buy them Jersey.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Maybe they still listen to all this stuff.
Speaker 14 (33:50):
That's maybe that's what it is. The thing that you
see is now you see more on social media. It's
probably been like that for they just didn't have the
didn't have the form. I mean, no doubt they're mad,
but it's always.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
Been let's just say, let's just say social media's been
prevalent fifteen years, ten fifteen years, let's use that barometer.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
Then it hasn't been I haven't seen that bad ten
to fifteen.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
I agree.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
So I just think the pressure that comes from that,
the pushback that comes from that. I told you guys,
it's a couple maybe a month or two ago, that
would be my question. I had a conversation with somebody
on another level, right.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
And literally another level, another level.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
Literally merches down. Sales are down, advertising is down.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Spring and I kept telling you about training camp.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
Like now, I'm not saying that the numbers are like,
but I don't know when the last time they've probably
seen a decline in those numbers.
Speaker 7 (34:46):
Yeah, numbers are still good. Yeah, they're just not.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
They're just not They're not doing this.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Yeah, the grass not points straight up right like it
always had.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
It was like, you know what that matters, that matters
in the grass scheme of what the businesses. But to
the point that that Nate was making and the owner's
meeting this past weekend, and uh, you know, Jerry even
talked about his own head coach.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
He said it. This wasn't an I didn't make this up.
Speaker 6 (35:14):
This came out of the mouth of all there's a
lot of that came out of Jerry mouth over this
past couple of days that he probably wouldn't want to
walk back.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Maybe he don't.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Maybe he doesn't, maybe he probably should. But he even
said it. He talked about I didn't even consider him
to be my head coach.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
He was looked at us being an office coordinator, and
then we kind of fell into him being a head coach.
So it wasn't like Jerry, It wasn't one of those
where like this is our guy, this is who we want,
this is who I'm going after. It was like, okay,
you're still here.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
Uh what you got? What you got?
Speaker 3 (35:53):
And then it was like or could it have been
some some of his guys coming to ownership and going, hey,
you really ought to look at this guy.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
It was his son, he said it, He said it
before said it was it was it was junior that
came to him and saying like, hey, you need to
look at Shottenheimer, Like you look at this guy.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
He was like, who probably didn't know his name either.
Speaker 7 (36:13):
Right, top stop man?
Speaker 1 (36:16):
The man already said he knew the man name.
Speaker 6 (36:18):
Right, But but but that wasn't that wasn't the choice.
He wasn't the choice. He was looked at the office coordinator.
And then you even heard your head coach like talk
about it. His wife talked about it. It was like,
I'm stealing all way here, I'm stilling all.
Speaker 7 (36:34):
We're the family.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
We're the first flame of the Cowboys right now. I'm
the head coach of the Cowboys. She's like, I'm, I'm, I'm.
We we go to bed at night and we're still
shocked that we are the husband and wife of the
Dallas Cowboys. So you have a coach that didn't think
he was going to be here. You have an owner
who didn't think that you were the first option that
he wanted. If things don't go well for you, and
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now other names start surfacing, because let's let's not forget
if things don't start going well in San Francisco again,
Kyle Shanna hasn't gonna be a name that that's talked about.
They may decide to move on from here. There may
be some other names like, uh, what's my guy in
l a McVeigh, Names like that. You got guys like Stefanski,
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you got.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Other There's gonna be options. It's gonna be an option.
Speaker 6 (37:23):
The next couple of years, as this coaching cycle turns
and turns and turns, they're going to be more options.
They're gonna be some new hot shot will come into play.
Now he may not go the hot shot route, but
if one of those other big name coaches come in,
don't be it. Don't be shocked that that happened. If
if only, if that this thing doesn't get righted and
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you get back to winning seasons, making the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
When no, man, when.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
You are sweet brother, I mean, if you as a
the vacuum sells them and walked to my door, I
probably about But that ain't finna have this time?
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Friend, When is the contract?
Speaker 7 (38:05):
It don't matter. He's got a.
Speaker 14 (38:09):
Five fifty something.
Speaker 7 (38:11):
Yeah, he make it.
Speaker 5 (38:12):
He make it to the mill, and that by I'm
gonna be pretty pretty steep.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Oh yeah, he told me. Yeah that be he said.
I said, pribe, you know, because he was. I was
over to his house today before. He said we're gonna
get it done tomorrow. I said, okay, I said, what's
the hang up on your contract?
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Say?
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Man, that body is a beast.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Money yeah money, I said, okay.
Speaker 6 (38:32):
You got a whole eco. He got a whole Eco.
System that's tied the coach Prime.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
If you leave, we want a whole lot of this
money back. That's what they was hackling over the last
few weeks, trying to make sure that Bob was good
for both.
Speaker 7 (38:47):
Hanging with the boys with Prime.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
But I'll be trying, man, Chris is pushing.
Speaker 7 (38:51):
We will come on him, bro, Chris will go to
his house.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
If I get if I'm going up there this off season, man,
and I'm going, and I promise I'm gonna call you
and look at him. Man, if I can just do
it on the phone, you think we can make it work.
If I can just somehow do it on the phone,
or I got to have a computer. What do I need?
If I can get him to go.
Speaker 7 (39:12):
He could be on the phone for all I care.
Speaker 5 (39:14):
Right, Okay, we'll figure it out.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
So question for you, you think he's gonna be around
long with two years at least at least because I
think two to three.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
You if if you think this fans upset now and
you don't give a guy a chance, especially if he's
going in the right, that right, because if he if
he win say seven games next year, that's stretching it
for me. Say he wins seven games next year, Yeah,
and then going to the next year five and two.
Speaker 7 (39:44):
Remember that when we do our picks. Yeah, two and two,
seventeen and.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Oh any building that dude gonna get another year, man,
because mister one thing you know about our boyd mister Jay,
he can see hope whether there's none.
Speaker 7 (40:00):
Yeah, man, you win seven games.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Man, that's more than I thought he went.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
He won't win seven games this year. It's even a
half might be cut shorter than what it is.
Speaker 7 (40:10):
You don't think he wins seven.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
He needs to win way more than seven.
Speaker 8 (40:14):
So this year, even if he's got the in the
right direction.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
You two segments ago, you just said you can't do
it with average players. So that means that the coaching
has to take effect the schemes. You have players playing
over their heads.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
You gonna need them. You better pick them right. You
better hope.
Speaker 6 (40:37):
Kenneth Murray, you better hope, uh Sell, not Seaborn, Samborne,
excuse me, Samborne, you better hope guiding you better, you
better hope.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
All them jokers, it's.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Who you don't think we Okay, okay, Philly, you.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
Can't seven wins, won't.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Commanders they can get seven wins.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
Got to get more than seven wins.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
No, No, you're not giving a guy.
Speaker 6 (41:05):
So you're saying, you're saying he can go seven and
ten not make the playoffs in his first year.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Yeah, yeah, Chris, what you think you ain't gonna stat
of this?
Speaker 7 (41:17):
No, I don't seven. He's playing right in front of me.
I can.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
But the question is if he wins seven games or less,
is he gone after one year?
Speaker 12 (41:32):
No?
Speaker 5 (41:32):
No, I don't think he's gone after one year.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Okay, he said you need to win more than seven games.
He won't win seven.
Speaker 5 (41:39):
I'm saying he needs to win more than I can.
Speaker 7 (41:41):
Look right here and your a wins right now? Okay, easy,
all right, we'll go to the point.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
So question for you before we get out of it. We
run out of time, all right. Have you ever heard
of coach say we have you ever cut?
Speaker 3 (41:54):
Do you think Coach looked at the film from the
last seven years.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
And just said, so bad up the middle.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
We just gonna go from the outside end and hope
we can cover ourselves because it's so bad in.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
The middle, we can't improve it.
Speaker 15 (42:08):
But for him to say, for him to say we will,
we believe in building from the outside end, your corners,
your wide receivers.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Hey, I ain't mad at cornerback, your whole team, and you've.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
Been abused up the middle on both sides of the
ball for for I guess offensive line.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
What he's trying to say here is he believes in
his guards, in his centers, I mean his centers, in
his guards.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
Thinks building and he's saying that's what I what about
the defensive side, that's my question.
Speaker 8 (42:42):
I think he was part of it was he was saying,
those guys on the outside are more on an island,
they're more.
Speaker 7 (42:47):
They need to be stronger players.
Speaker 8 (42:48):
Yeah, they need to be more. If you if you
got those guys and he counted the edge rushers.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
But you've been running through the whole continent. You've been
running up what is it pan Asian right that little
hallway right up.
Speaker 5 (42:58):
Up to North America off of America.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
Yeah, like that just kind of threw me off.
Speaker 7 (43:03):
And look, hey, let's try it.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
It's a new philosophy.
Speaker 7 (43:05):
We got a new coach, we got new players.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Let's but I want you here from more than a
year and a half, coach.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
Get your nose tackle, like, get somebody to calg the
middle up at least on defense.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
I just had never heard that before me either.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
But this is the thing, and I'm quite sure everybody agrees.
What's on your board. Trusted because they have so many holes.
Just trust the board. Don't go seven or eight or
nine or ten players down trying to grab somebody up.
You know that's probably a true second round player, our
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third round player, even though we don't know who the
players are until they stop playing in this league. But
if somebody fall to you, take them. It's a wide
receiver running back. Take them. Because you have so many holes.
Just take the best player. And if it's a guy,
you want one or two positions up, and it's gonna
(44:03):
cost you that third, which we get. We get way
we give away draft picks.
Speaker 4 (44:08):
You want to give away the third.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
What do you think about that, mister green shirt, the
green room man, listen, many.
Speaker 5 (44:19):
I'm good, But you get players.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
You need players, man. Bottom line, I'm talking about B
and B plus the eight players. It'd be got a
lot of c.
Speaker 5 (44:30):
We if we see it, they should see it.
Speaker 6 (44:34):
Yeah, they know what this team is up the middle
of the offense and the defense. The NFL knows what
this team is up the middle of the offensive defense
if they don't put the necessary not Now, maybe they
think that Solomon Thomas and uh the the Peyton kid
from New Orleans and bring it back oh so, and
that Miles's gonna take this stuff that they needed him
(44:55):
to take.
Speaker 5 (44:56):
But then that's enough.
Speaker 6 (44:57):
Then then we'll see it's gonna it's gonna play out
right front of our ohs, and they gonna know when
we're gonna know if it was or what wasn't. And
that's what I'm saying for For a first year coach,
this is your first this is your first impression. So
if I'm him, I'm pushing to get those those gaps
filled so that I have the opportunity to show them
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some sort of growth, to say, well, we stopped this,
we stopped that. Now my trajectory is putting in the
right direction. If you come here next year and you're
still being gassed up the middle, what are we doing?
Speaker 5 (45:30):
What are we doing?
Speaker 3 (45:30):
All right?
Speaker 4 (45:31):
I got a question for you before we get out
of here. I am going to a wedding this weekend.
Speaker 7 (45:35):
Okay, this is a.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
Fashion question, So I expect Jesse to be brutally honest
with me.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
And you know, as you As you age, your fashion
sense changes and you you go through different periods of
your life where you dress a certain way.
Speaker 4 (45:49):
Except Nate.
Speaker 7 (45:49):
He's always gonna be.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
In the warm ups and the boots with his socks
pulled up to his knees and his shorts.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
That's old in dementia.
Speaker 6 (45:58):
When that when that check coming, you're gonna put that
suit and tie on.
Speaker 7 (46:02):
Now, Yeah, I got one of the.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Whatever that tier is, I will we right, So.
Speaker 4 (46:10):
My question, I'm going to a wedding. It's a country wedding.
Speaker 7 (46:13):
It's out in the country. It's in a field with
this weather. They got a tent. It's supposed to be
by this barn.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
You know, so cowboy boots, you know, sport code jeans. Yeah,
I used to dress that way back in the day,
right like I used to, believe it or not.
Speaker 7 (46:30):
I wore wranglers, I rode.
Speaker 4 (46:31):
A bull before.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
I used to wear a cowboy hat. This was back
in my Louisiana days.
Speaker 6 (46:35):
You go down to them tps. I'm telling you right now,
I got this couple of dations down there. Ye man,
you last eight seconds you get you get on them
both dations down of tps.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
You ain't last day even if it spurs and all
last and eighty seconds.
Speaker 4 (46:49):
All right, yeah, I almost said something.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
So anyway, I used to dress that way, but you know,
recently last you know, this era of my life, I'm
more into like sneakers and you know, skinny jeans and.
Speaker 4 (47:05):
Stuff like that. But I'm going to this wedding.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
I do have a pair of couple pairs of nice
boots just for especially Lukzy's across the street, and uh
so for this wedding, I'm completely selling out, Like I don't.
I don't wear boots unless I'm doing something. But I'm
going everybody else is going to be in boots. Should
I be true to who I am now and just
like I always do in life and buck the trend
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and be like now, dude, they can just live with
or do I go like, you know what, it's a
country wedding?
Speaker 7 (47:33):
Is it be fun?
Speaker 4 (47:34):
It'll take me back to my roots? Like, am I
selling out by your roots?
Speaker 6 (47:39):
If you're doing something that's in your roots, I ain't
selling out goods. That's you being, that's who you, that's
a part of.
Speaker 7 (47:46):
Who you are.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
But then am I selling out now by dressing the
way that I do? And dressing twenty years younger than
what I probably should you already do.
Speaker 5 (47:53):
But that's okay, No, man, put the put the boots
on that.
Speaker 7 (47:59):
Because it's not about you.
Speaker 14 (48:00):
It's about the people are getting okay.
Speaker 5 (48:06):
I was just wondering about yourself.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
Yeah, yeah, it's always about what you want to be.
Speaker 5 (48:11):
That.
Speaker 7 (48:11):
This wasn't about me. That everybody explain them, make it.
Speaker 6 (48:16):
Make sure your wringers. Thanks Chris, you can see you
know what I'm saying. Their baggy, their get tight. They
used they used to.
Speaker 7 (48:24):
Yeah, I wish hours I.
Speaker 4 (48:27):
Had some pictures back in the extra starch. No, I'm
not wearing a hat.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
Come on, I have won't fit because my hair is
too long right now, So man, you can go. And
I ain't going to buy a cowboy hat just for
this one thing.
Speaker 6 (48:38):
Not not, but I want to impressed the ladies. Make
sure your Jesus tight, extra tight. Yeah, take a blue shoe.
Speaker 7 (48:46):
Would just be get your small up, all fellas that bullet.
Speaker 4 (48:55):
Jesse Kirk set next week, same time, same place. When's
the draft?
Speaker 5 (49:02):
Twenty fourth? Oh we got my boy, forget my boy,
my boy got the book is out?
Speaker 7 (49:07):
Oh look at that boy.
Speaker 5 (49:08):
Book is out. My boy The book is out look
at Kurt. Yeah, it's available now.
Speaker 8 (49:12):
Digital copies available now, prints available in the pro shops
and various. The editor of it, it'll be yeah, it'll
be online, print copy online on why do you get.
Speaker 1 (49:21):
Your name at him? Editor? Now?
Speaker 7 (49:23):
You know sitting there someone signing you know what? Closer.
Speaker 4 (49:26):
We don't want no time, get come back closer we
get to the draft. The more I'm starting to agree
with Jesse. I am not against a wide receiver in
the first round, the.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
Best, if he the best player, if he if he
the best guy, get him.
Speaker 4 (49:37):
Pat Man needs Robin there he goes. Go all right, fellas,
get seeing you, see you next week. Hang with the boys.
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Speaker 7 (01:39):
How are y'all?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Great Man Jesse is wearing a very unusual color for
him today, Say is that lime or booker?
Speaker 7 (01:48):
Green?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Booker?
Speaker 7 (01:51):
Why it's pretty?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
I like it's a it's a good color on you.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
You could have said it slime greeny.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Slime green.
Speaker 7 (01:59):
No, No, I have a four year old.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
I was trying to kind of combat the drilliness of
the weather with light colors, like I don't want to
dress with the weather to make me feel.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Even more bright.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Yeah, I wanted to go opposite color to like it.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
You don't wear a lot of colors.
Speaker 7 (02:16):
You wear a lot of pastels.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
Yeah, like I will like you know, mauv and salmon,
muted muted colors and and and like lilac, lavender.
Speaker 8 (02:28):
Lilac, you know, Carl Burnt.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Things like that, eat Man and Ny. You look good
as always with your fight T shirt on.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
If it's free. As for me, that's the model.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Right, always looking dapper in your butt?
Speaker 7 (02:45):
Can you believe I.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Still got the sweats be waring from when you played
nineteen eighties.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
You I believe it.
Speaker 7 (02:54):
I do too.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
Still you still well, you're still with a team issue
with the socks, are you?
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Are you a pack rat?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah? I'm Finn unpacked, bro, because I don't want to
fall in my house in this nineteen sixty your order, yeah,
your clothes, wise and shoes, yeah, because I don't wash stuff.
But over and over us we wear this sage stuff
over and over and over and over.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Lot that stuff go, man, Yeah, I got to that stuff.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
I have a question for you. At the end of
the show. We need to talk football first. We'll do
this backwards from what we normally do.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Normally we don't talk football except the last five minutes.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Let's try to flip it. Talk some football because a
lot going on right the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Is it a trade? Is that what we're saying? Is
it final yet or is it still pending? I hadn't
seen official.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Word, but it's everywhere.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
It's officially unofficial.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Officially, what is the officially unofficial word? Kurt?
Speaker 8 (03:46):
They are acquiring Joe Milton, quarterback from the Patriots with
a seven round pick in exchange for a fifth rounder.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Now we knew that we're going to bring at least
one more quarterback. In thought it was going to be
the draft. How do you got guys? Obviously he's going
to get a lot of reps in training camp because
you're probably gonna.
Speaker 7 (04:05):
Rest back a lot.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Will are going to get those reps.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I mean, that's really it. Like he's a body, right,
he's a camp body? Is he a camp body?
Speaker 7 (04:18):
Joe?
Speaker 5 (04:18):
He'll be here for a while.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Well, I'm just saying he's a guy that's going to
take reps and feel you've got to have bodies in camp.
We're not getting rid of him. After camp, He'll he'll
be around. He's an extra.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Body in the quarterback room. So is he worth a
what was it? Seventh rounder?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Fifth?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Fifth rounder? They got Milton and a seventh rounder?
Speaker 7 (04:43):
Do you like?
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Are you okay with that?
Speaker 5 (04:47):
I think mhm.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
The compensation wise, because we're gonna all we're going to
compare this to the Tree Lance situation, right that where
we're gonna that's just natural thing that we do. Compensation wise.
The Cowboys won, Okay, they they cut a better deal
than they did with the tray Land situation.
Speaker 7 (05:06):
Okay, you don't hear that often, right, lately they.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
I think they won. I think they won in this deal.
I think New England wanted to get rid of Joe Milton.
They've had him and seen what he has and the
Cowboys and this has been talked about for a while now,
for a couple of weeks maybe maybe even like right
after the combine you started hearing the conversations about Joe
Milton and New England had kind of wanted the high
price early on and they thought they can get abe
(05:33):
flee somebody for Joe Milton. Now, now when you get
to the player, now, the Cowboys have him for another
three more years for just a little over three million dollars.
They think it's three and a half. So they have
control over this player for the next three years, which
is the that's developmental time, right like you have time
to develop him. This isn't this isn't a one year
(05:54):
deal where he has to come in right now and
do something right now. My, my, here's my only issue
with this. If I gave you blind statistics, if I
didn't tell you who this player was, and I just
told you that he was six foot five, two hundred
and thirty pounds, ran a four to five or four
(06:14):
to six whatever it was at the combine as Pro day,
excuse me, And and can throw the ball country bomb,
you think, let's go. The only problem, and it's a
big problem, is Joe Milton has a cannon. Yeah, doesn't
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know where the ball's gonna go. I don't think doesn't
know where the ball's gonna go. Doesn't He can throw
a flat footed seventy five eighty yards, can throw a
ten yard out route forty feet over somebody's head. Really,
that is That's Joe. That's been Joe Milton's problem at Tennessee.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
It's bitten.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
He throws. He is a fastball pitcher and you're standing
five yards away from him.
Speaker 7 (07:03):
Was the name Vne And.
Speaker 6 (07:07):
Like he could throw the ball one hundred miles an hour,
throw it a country mile.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
But he he'll struggle.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
Throwing a five yard out route to the guy right
that right that right out in front of him, or
ten yard out route or something, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Like it's the accuracy.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
It's just you never know where the football is going
to go with this kid, and I don't.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
I don't know if this staff has a quarterback developer
on it. But it's it's one of those. It's a project.
It's the new experiment for the Cowboys to have someone
tweets him as earlier like all you know quarterbacks on experiment,
and that's fair, especially the backup ones. But if you're
looking for Joe Milton to come in if that gets
(07:47):
hurt this season, to come in and fill that role
and win you mini games, I think you had a
better shot with Cooper Rush doing that than you would
with Joe Milton.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Why my question would be, why is New England giving
up on him? So they drafting what last year staff?
Speaker 6 (08:02):
New culture staff comes in, they don't. We said this
before on this show. When a new coaching staff comes in,
they don't have anybody that was drafted before they got there.
They have no loyalties to you.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
But when it comes to a quarterback though, it's so
hard to hit on a quarterback, even a new coaching staff.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
You're giving up on him after one year?
Speaker 6 (08:23):
Yeah, but that new culture staff says, I know a
backup guy that we had in.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
But if he had anything, wouldn't they have held on
to him? Like especially there they need.
Speaker 6 (08:31):
Quarterbacks there, I guess, but I mean that would be
my only Rabel haus come in and said, not my guy,
don't have a need for him.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
Let's see if we can't get something for him.
Speaker 8 (08:41):
I do think though, that it's a good deal in
that Are you going to get a better anybody better
with a fifth round pick or a developed This is
not supposed to be a great quarterback class coming in
this year's draft. You got one year one guy he's
already had. He had a pretty decent game in the
last game last years. Is a guy that can still develop,
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and I don't think they would have found anybody better
worth developing in this year.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
That's fair.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Somebody once told me a great guy, great philosopher, a
great guy that breaks down things real. Well, if we
get to this guy during the season, we'll be drafting
number one. Yeah, so was told me that agreed with
a Burger green shirt and we'll get to.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
The back of quarterback.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I'm be honest with you, man. Some I love hear
Jess talk. That's why I did not interrupt it and
blow it all up. You know what I'm saying, because
this wasn't even worth talking about.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
What you are absolutely right, it's it's but only here.
Speaker 7 (09:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Dallas Calboy, Dallas Cowboys quarterback position does in.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
The a block the backup quarterback become a topic of discussion.
It becomes national news all the it's.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Even our head coach, you had to say it is
no competition. I'm like, why is he got to say
it's no competition for Dak? Your head coach is saying
this on a national and.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
Even And here's the thing about. Here's the thing about
a developmental quarterback. And this is.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
With any team, not just the Cowboys, but any team.
If someone is developmental, right, in order to get that development,
that person must need reps.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Yes, that is the.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
Biggest problem when you're talking about backup players in this league.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
The reps aren't there. When when when Dak.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
Gets back and he's doing this thing at OTAs, he
wants those reps. He wants those reps with CD if
they go to they go to decide to get another
wide receiver from this draft. He wants those reps with
that guy. They with the offensive line. You know what
it is in training camp?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah, good good luck telling him with the new coaching staff, Hey,
you sit.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
These out, you know what I mean?
Speaker 7 (10:58):
No, he's not. Yeah, he's gonna be like a bro.
I need this.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
The bigger part of it is it comes down to,
is how am I going to develop this guy into
the player that we need him to be when all
my meaningful reps are going to the guy who I
need as a head coach?
Speaker 5 (11:16):
And at least is gonna be pretty short.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
I think for Schottenheimer, you don't you you ain't getting three, four,
five years to get this thing right.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
You're gonna You're gonna get a year, maybe year and.
Speaker 7 (11:24):
A half, you think so.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Yeah, I think he's gonna get two years.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
I think at least two years because they rebuilding broh.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I mean two maybe three, just based off of Jerry's
law team, what he said in the past, that he's
had the hook too quick.
Speaker 7 (11:39):
You the way that this thing is just here two years.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Discuss this because I wanted to discuss that.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Why would you hire a coach that you think so
much of that you are And I know, Jerry, I'm.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
Glad you said that because your head coach and your
owners said the other day in the own was meeting
that this he didn't plan on hiring his coach.
Speaker 7 (12:04):
As the head coach. Yeah, it's going to take a
whole second.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yeah, yeah, not slim Chris Before we go to break.
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I thought it was Jesse, but it's Chris meant one more.
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To come, Jesse, and.
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Our coach said something that I want to get your
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Let's talk about that.
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Before we go going on, I'm sorry, Chris, before we
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I'm talking about him being here.
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Asked, thank you for clarifying you were going.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
I just want to say that I like your second
one on this. He have ideas for us every day,
and I like the second team is signing and acquiring
a lot of players they like in the draft. But
it didn't but but haven't done much in the NFL.
So what you're saying is other teams that we liked
their players in the draft, we didn't get them. But
(16:48):
now we coming back after day.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
Somebody else didn't want them, we get.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
We're gonna talk about that after Jesse tell us why
our coach shouldn't be here more than two years.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Let's table that.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Let's talk about what this is gonna be a long
conversation Okay, they have done that, right. They did that
with Mingo last year and it was like uh, and
then they've done that this offseason where they would have
a first, second, third round grade on a guy that
somebody would get him before they wanted him, that team
doesn't want him, right, and now he's here. It's almost
(17:18):
like it's almost like our second round draft strategy, right,
you know what, we really like this guy. We had
a first round grade on him. He fell to the
second round, but you know he's got an injury issue.
You know, Bruce Carter was one, Jalen Smith was one.
But if we do hit on this one, I mean,
how many times do we have to If we were right,
(17:40):
then we were right and we got a hell of
a player.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
How many how many wasted.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Picks and slots and all that are you going to
go through before you start going.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Okay, wait a minute, let's just how do y'all feel
about it?
Speaker 8 (17:51):
They're trusting that their development system is better than yours,
you know that they can bring these guys in and
find another.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Level or they got the talent, the measurables.
Speaker 8 (18:00):
That kind of thing. Yeah, he has a noise worked
has it ever worked out?
Speaker 1 (18:04):
I know system plays a lot, but you do have
to be a player with some ability first to fit
into right. So I mean, and I'm not saying that, Okay,
he go to Kansas City, he may not play well.
Kansas City got a lot more blue chip players than us,
so you may say, Okay, Kansas City, but this dude
(18:26):
running around with guys on our level and he's not better.
Because I'm if I'm signing a guy at this stage
with the record we had and what our future look like,
these guys are gonna be lining up in OTA's pressing
our guys that are already in place. You know, the
(18:46):
Jonathan Kidd, the wire receiver from the Carolinas. I always
believe when they gave up the fourth I thought, at
least by the second week, you should throw him six
or seven balls, get this hiding one in the right direction.
But it was the sixth, sixth week we was in
and all of a sudden, then what we wanted to
throw to him that that is a guy that you
(19:10):
liked it, that was a guy that was on your board.
So is we going to get a lot of that
coming down the pike? That that'll be sad, That'll be sad. Well,
you know he didn't play well for the other team.
Speaker 7 (19:21):
Well why why is he here?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Why did we sign him?
Speaker 3 (19:24):
And there is now there is a part of this
that as a GM and as you know Will McLay,
you can't ever just stop bringing those guys in. You
gotta bring them in and test them. And there's always
going to be that. As fans you look at and
go here we go again. But you you always have
to keep churning the roster and bringing guys in or
you're or what are you doing here?
Speaker 7 (19:45):
Right?
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Like you say, any job, you got to keep trying
to be innovative and keep trying to push forward.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
So there's always going to be that.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
It's just frustrating when it seems like nobody works out
and when they do, they're a practice squad guy up
that you bring up and they might get in for
five plays a game.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
Right.
Speaker 8 (20:01):
I think these guys they brought in some good depth,
which I think may have been their goal in this
free agency process. So but it's I just don't know
if they have that impact guy that's always all of
a sudden gonna explode up to another level or whatever.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
You got a kicker, kicker right that nobody was knowing
nobody's radar right, pump returner and a pump returner.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
So I mean it works out every once in a while,
hell of a pump returner.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Like so, I guess for every twenty of those guys
you bring in, if you can get a Cavante Turpin
and a you know, Brandon Aubrey.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
No, you got to hit more than that because your
team is your team is the middle of the road, right,
you got to hit them more than that. You these guys,
but can you hit what are you? I know we
can't give records because we don't know these guys, but
it's got to be some level of expectation that you
you're at, you know, as a coaching staff, I know
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you're gonna have to up most respect. When we brought
this game, we believe in them wholeheartedly. Then we get
into meetings you tell the truth to the rest of man.
I don't know. Yeah, yeah, So what we have to
do here is when you bring a player in and
I'm just going about what Jimmy did with us when
he didn't bring a player in to threaten you. He
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brought a player in to get your job. It's called competition.
And right about. Okay, it ain't but three guys got
contracts or four guys got contracts. That's worthy of anything.
It's got to be full fledged competition. Whoever makes it
through training camp ho a solt for hard you think
training camp is the survivors are gonna be your starters,
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not because I like you, or because you got a
lot of money, or because you got great technique out
there's what you do in that game. So if they're
not willing to push these guys, you know, and and
and in the tub, you definitely ain't gonna make the club.
You know, we can't have you. You got to set
a new president, President president. You got to set that
(22:05):
rat started the OTAs guys that are showing up Monday, Okay.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
Let's see who's showing up.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Let's see who really cares about the scene. Because if
you if you're doing it in any other way, the
way and just projections the way Philadelphia looks, the way
the commanders look and the way New York Defense plays,
we can't not have competition. Guys. You got to show
the fans that we're going in the right direction. You know,
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that's just what I feel.
Speaker 6 (22:37):
Too many, too many average to below average players. It
fills your roster. It doesn't lend for success. When you
mentioned names like Kansas City, you talk about how many
other top tier guys that they have. When you when
you have a roster of of really good players and
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all of them doesn't have.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
To be superstars, that's right.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
What it allows you to do now is to be
specific in the use of those guys who are below
average to average. If I'm banking on four or five
six guys, you hear the term of man, he has
to play above his pay grade or above his whatever
draft status.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
I can't depend on five or six guys.
Speaker 10 (23:23):
Do that?
Speaker 5 (23:24):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Okay, cool, Cavante Turpin, he played above above expectation. But
if I need Cavante Turpin to play above expectation, if
I need, you know, my dbs to play above expectation,
the linebackers to play above expectation, and some wide receivers,
that's a lot because someone isn't a group of them
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are not. And so now what does that leave your
football team? So it's it's and when you see a
lot of these guys come in and you talk about
the development and all that kind of stuff, This is
even biblical. It's you know where your treasures lie, your
heart will follow. If a guys coming in on a
one year deal, I don't know how much time I'm
(24:12):
gonna give that to really truly development, because you're not
gonna be here long term, right. It's it's where you're
not gonna get the opportunity that the other ones will get.
But if I'm dependent upon you to do something and
you can't meet that now, it leaves us in a
very bad situation. And football is one of those spots,
unlike any other sport, where you need, for the most part,
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I need eleven guys doing something at the same time
consistently in order for me to have sustained success.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
Because teams that you face are far too smart, you can't.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
It's very difficult to hide bad football players.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
It's tough. We're going to find you.
Speaker 7 (24:57):
We know who you are.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
We've up in a part of games where the starting
quarterback goes down. What happens to very next player when
that backup comes in, The offense goes We're going at him.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
He been on the sideline for a while. He ain't
the best guy.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
You can even say, hey guy, we're going at you.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
You know, you look, all of a sudden, the number
one receiver playing slot all day, All of a sudden,
Now he lied aboutside over that guy, you.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (25:23):
Or you know what that side of that defensive line
ain't ain't it? Or that left tackle ain't it? They go,
no problem, here's what we're gonna run the games at
right here. You guys are gonna have to either give
tight end help, running back help, but we're gonna attack
this guy right.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
Here until you fix it.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
And so it's difficult to hide those guys. So you
want to put as many guys on the field as
possible that can hold their own and their norm isn't
I need him to play above this. I need him
to be what he do. I need him do what
he do, and we're gonna be all right. And then
you can sprinkle in those guys. We're saying like, all right, listen,
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I need.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
You to do this.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
I need you to do this one specific thing. Go
do that, and I can put you off the field.
I can hide you off the field, but I can
get you in there to do so. The Cowboys are
filling their rosters with a lot of guys who are
below to average players, and when you when you're when
you're trying to go out and win football games against
really good football teams who have guys who just line
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up and who they are are already better than you
without them having to play at another level, but needing
you to play above where you're at. It's just a
it's a tough business to be in, and and and
that's why you want them to kind of go out
there and and and not just go get the second tier,
third tier level guys. Yes, you need that depth, but
(26:45):
I need some more guys to go with that. I
need some more guys on the front line to go
with that. So those guys who are average at best,
they can come in and do whatever that average thing
they can do consistently and not have that amount of
pressure on them to be greater than what they will.
Speaker 8 (27:00):
So instead of the twenty million or whatever they spend
on the ten guys, should they have spent twenty million
on five or something.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
It helps your football team.
Speaker 7 (27:10):
Good players for impact players.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
Good players help your football team. Good players help your
football team. Man, you get you get more of those
in your football team, you win super Bowls. I mean
you saw you're sitting across from a three times Super
Bowl champion. They had a lot of damn good players
on their football team.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
So spend more money on fewer Dante Fowlers than these
guys you're going and getting that could turn into something, right.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
That that hope and that wish, that player is this.
You know, I don't I don't want to keep using
them as reference, but they are a reference point. Philadelphia
go and get good. They go and get players that
are damn good, and now you have to play them.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
You go, where's the holes?
Speaker 6 (27:49):
They don't have any? But then they just dominate everywhere,
your your week, your week. Up front, no problem. Their
best offensive line in the league dominates you. Oh you
got holes in your offensive line, no worries. They got
the best defensive line, they dominate you. They got good
corners that come out there and play. They got a
great running back, they got great receivers. They got you know,
(28:09):
a good, a good okay quarterback that that that that
type of force coming at you down in, down out.
You know, series in, series out, it's tough.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
It's rare, very rare that a guy two and a
half to three years in it's rare. Every now and
then you'll find that guy that's two to three years
in and you get him and he explode for you
in the NFL. Now that happens in college. They got
a kid at Ohio stayed a linebacker, walk on, didn't
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play much his second year, third year, and now this
dude projected go in the first round, big a linebacker,
nice kid. That happens there a lot in college where
you study growing, you study developing mentally, physically, you study growing.
When you get here about three four years in, you
about twenty seven years old, you get into your peak.
You almost at you in your peak gears, you are
(29:05):
basically who say you are, are what you.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Are, right, Yeah, all right, let's take our last break.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
When we come back, Jesse's gonna tell us why our
coach is only gonna be here for one year and.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Nate, Jess, I just can't believe it.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
And Nate's gonna tell us his thoughts on a comment
that coach had that that may.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
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Speaker 7 (29:24):
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The moment you have all been waiting for, Jesse's gonna
tell us why our coach is only gonna be here
for the twenty twenty five season.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Jesse, the floor is yours.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
And then you said a year and a half, So
I'm not go along with which he's saying by time
the middle of the off season, they'll decide.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
This time next year.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
I'm saying the least. The least for Brian Schottenheimer is
not as long as the coaches passed, and mainly not
necessarily because of him, just the way that I mean, Chris,
how long have you been here?
Speaker 7 (32:26):
I'm about to hit twenty six seasons?
Speaker 5 (32:27):
Twenty six seasons, you've been here thirty right? Plus right?
How long have you been here?
Speaker 8 (32:35):
About fifteen?
Speaker 4 (32:36):
You twenty two, twenty one.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
I've been here since O nine right. So whatever that
math breaks out there, we would say we're all season
vets of this organization.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Right.
Speaker 6 (32:48):
Have you ever seen the way that the fan base
has been in this last year at any point in.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Time, never ever since ever since Landry? They got this way?
Coach Landry is in years.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
It was ugly. It's been ugly.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
It has been ugly, and so the revolt from the
fan base if you go through another losing season. That's
why I said a year and a half, because you'll
go through the season and you'll get to that next season,
and if that is not going the way that you planned.
I don't see a way that they can keep this
coach and still keep this this fan base.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
I do if they keep selling out games, they're saying,
that's what he's saying. You think cowboy fans are gonna
quick come into games. They can't get out of them
seat license, the season tickets.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
They just read up, coach, they're gonna be coming. They
just read up.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
And a lot of fans I've seen from social media
are upsetting.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Yeah, they're pissed off, but they still boy them tickets,
they still buy them Jersey.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Maybe they still listen to all this stuff.
Speaker 14 (33:50):
That's maybe that's what it is. The thing that you
see is now you see more on social media. It's
probably been like that for they just didn't have the
didn't have the form. I mean, no doubt they're mad,
but it's always.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
Been let's just say, let's just say social media's been
prevalent fifteen years, ten fifteen years, let's use that barometer.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
Then it hasn't been I haven't seen that bad ten
to fifteen.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
I agree.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
So I just think the pressure that comes from that,
the pushback that comes from that. I told you guys,
it's a couple maybe a month or two ago, that
would be my question. I had a conversation with somebody
on another level, right.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
And literally another level, another level.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
Literally merches down. Sales are down, advertising is down.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Spring and I kept telling you about training camp.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
Like now, I'm not saying that the numbers are like,
but I don't know when the last time they've probably
seen a decline in those numbers.
Speaker 7 (34:46):
Yeah, numbers are still good. Yeah, they're just not.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
They're just not They're not doing this.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Yeah, the grass not points straight up right like it
always had.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
It was like, you know what that matters, that matters
in the grass scheme of what the businesses. But to
the point that that Nate was making and the owner's
meeting this past weekend, and uh, you know, Jerry even
talked about his own head coach.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
He said it. This wasn't an I didn't make this up.
Speaker 6 (35:14):
This came out of the mouth of all there's a
lot of that came out of Jerry mouth over this
past couple of days that he probably wouldn't want to
walk back.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Maybe he don't.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Maybe he doesn't, maybe he probably should. But he even
said it. He talked about I didn't even consider him
to be my head coach.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
He was looked at us being an office coordinator, and
then we kind of fell into him being a head coach.
So it wasn't like Jerry, It wasn't one of those
where like this is our guy, this is who we want,
this is who I'm going after. It was like, okay,
you're still here.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
Uh what you got? What you got?
Speaker 3 (35:53):
And then it was like or could it have been
some some of his guys coming to ownership and going, hey,
you really ought to look at this guy.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
It was his son, he said it, He said it
before said it was it was it was junior that
came to him and saying like, hey, you need to
look at Shottenheimer, Like you look at this guy.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
He was like, who probably didn't know his name either.
Speaker 7 (36:13):
Right, top stop man?
Speaker 1 (36:16):
The man already said he knew the man name.
Speaker 6 (36:18):
Right, But but but that wasn't that wasn't the choice.
He wasn't the choice. He was looked at the office coordinator.
And then you even heard your head coach like talk
about it. His wife talked about it. It was like,
I'm stealing all way here, I'm stilling all.
Speaker 7 (36:34):
We're the family.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
We're the first flame of the Cowboys right now. I'm
the head coach of the Cowboys. She's like, I'm, I'm, I'm.
We we go to bed at night and we're still
shocked that we are the husband and wife of the
Dallas Cowboys. So you have a coach that didn't think
he was going to be here. You have an owner
who didn't think that you were the first option that
he wanted. If things don't go well for you, and
(36:58):
now other names start surfacing, because let's let's not forget
if things don't start going well in San Francisco again,
Kyle Shanna hasn't gonna be a name that that's talked about.
They may decide to move on from here. There may
be some other names like, uh, what's my guy in
l a McVeigh, Names like that. You got guys like Stefanski,
(37:20):
you got.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Other There's gonna be options. It's gonna be an option.
Speaker 6 (37:23):
The next couple of years, as this coaching cycle turns
and turns and turns, they're going to be more options.
They're gonna be some new hot shot will come into play.
Now he may not go the hot shot route, but
if one of those other big name coaches come in,
don't be it. Don't be shocked that that happened. If
if only, if that this thing doesn't get righted and
(37:45):
you get back to winning seasons, making the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
When no, man, when.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
You are sweet brother, I mean, if you as a
the vacuum sells them and walked to my door, I
probably about But that ain't finna have this time?
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Friend, When is the contract?
Speaker 7 (38:05):
It don't matter. He's got a.
Speaker 14 (38:09):
Five fifty something.
Speaker 7 (38:11):
Yeah, he make it.
Speaker 5 (38:12):
He make it to the mill, and that by I'm
gonna be pretty pretty steep.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Oh yeah, he told me. Yeah that be he said.
I said, pribe, you know, because he was. I was
over to his house today before. He said we're gonna
get it done tomorrow. I said, okay, I said, what's
the hang up on your contract?
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Say?
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Man, that body is a beast.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Money yeah money, I said, okay.
Speaker 6 (38:32):
You got a whole eco. He got a whole Eco.
System that's tied the coach Prime.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
If you leave, we want a whole lot of this
money back. That's what they was hackling over the last
few weeks, trying to make sure that Bob was good
for both.
Speaker 7 (38:47):
Hanging with the boys with Prime.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
But I'll be trying, man, Chris is pushing.
Speaker 7 (38:51):
We will come on him, bro, Chris will go to
his house.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
If I get if I'm going up there this off season, man,
and I'm going, and I promise I'm gonna call you
and look at him. Man, if I can just do
it on the phone, you think we can make it work.
If I can just somehow do it on the phone,
or I got to have a computer. What do I need?
If I can get him to go.
Speaker 7 (39:12):
He could be on the phone for all I care.
Speaker 5 (39:14):
Right, Okay, we'll figure it out.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
So question for you, you think he's gonna be around
long with two years at least at least because I
think two to three.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
You if if you think this fans upset now and
you don't give a guy a chance, especially if he's
going in the right, that right, because if he if
he win say seven games next year, that's stretching it
for me. Say he wins seven games next year, Yeah,
and then going to the next year five and two.
Speaker 7 (39:44):
Remember that when we do our picks. Yeah, two and two,
seventeen and.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Oh any building that dude gonna get another year, man,
because mister one thing you know about our boyd mister Jay,
he can see hope whether there's none.
Speaker 7 (40:00):
Yeah, man, you win seven games.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Man, that's more than I thought he went.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
He won't win seven games this year. It's even a
half might be cut shorter than what it is.
Speaker 7 (40:10):
You don't think he wins seven.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
He needs to win way more than seven.
Speaker 8 (40:14):
So this year, even if he's got the in the
right direction.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
You two segments ago, you just said you can't do
it with average players. So that means that the coaching
has to take effect the schemes. You have players playing
over their heads.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
You gonna need them. You better pick them right. You
better hope.
Speaker 6 (40:37):
Kenneth Murray, you better hope, uh Sell, not Seaborn, Samborne,
excuse me, Samborne, you better hope guiding you better, you
better hope.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
All them jokers, it's.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Who you don't think we Okay, okay, Philly, you.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
Can't seven wins, won't.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Commanders they can get seven wins.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
Got to get more than seven wins.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
No, No, you're not giving a guy.
Speaker 6 (41:05):
So you're saying, you're saying he can go seven and
ten not make the playoffs in his first year.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Yeah, yeah, Chris, what you think you ain't gonna stat
of this?
Speaker 7 (41:17):
No, I don't seven. He's playing right in front of me.
I can.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
But the question is if he wins seven games or less,
is he gone after one year?
Speaker 12 (41:32):
No?
Speaker 5 (41:32):
No, I don't think he's gone after one year.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Okay, he said you need to win more than seven games.
He won't win seven.
Speaker 5 (41:39):
I'm saying he needs to win more than I can.
Speaker 7 (41:41):
Look right here and your a wins right now? Okay, easy,
all right, we'll go to the point.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
So question for you before we get out of it. We
run out of time, all right. Have you ever heard
of coach say we have you ever cut?
Speaker 3 (41:54):
Do you think Coach looked at the film from the
last seven years.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
And just said, so bad up the middle.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
We just gonna go from the outside end and hope
we can cover ourselves because it's so bad in.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
The middle, we can't improve it.
Speaker 15 (42:08):
But for him to say, for him to say we will,
we believe in building from the outside end, your corners,
your wide receivers.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Hey, I ain't mad at cornerback, your whole team, and you've.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
Been abused up the middle on both sides of the
ball for for I guess offensive line.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
What he's trying to say here is he believes in
his guards, in his centers, I mean his centers, in
his guards.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
Thinks building and he's saying that's what I what about
the defensive side, that's my question.
Speaker 8 (42:42):
I think he was part of it was he was saying,
those guys on the outside are more on an island,
they're more.
Speaker 7 (42:47):
They need to be stronger players.
Speaker 8 (42:48):
Yeah, they need to be more. If you if you
got those guys and he counted the edge rushers.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
But you've been running through the whole continent. You've been
running up what is it pan Asian right that little
hallway right up.
Speaker 5 (42:58):
Up to North America off of America.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
Yeah, like that just kind of threw me off.
Speaker 7 (43:03):
And look, hey, let's try it.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
It's a new philosophy.
Speaker 7 (43:05):
We got a new coach, we got new players.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Let's but I want you here from more than a
year and a half, coach.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
Get your nose tackle, like, get somebody to calg the
middle up at least on defense.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
I just had never heard that before me either.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
But this is the thing, and I'm quite sure everybody agrees.
What's on your board. Trusted because they have so many holes.
Just trust the board. Don't go seven or eight or
nine or ten players down trying to grab somebody up.
You know that's probably a true second round player, our
(43:41):
third round player, even though we don't know who the
players are until they stop playing in this league. But
if somebody fall to you, take them. It's a wide
receiver running back. Take them. Because you have so many holes.
Just take the best player. And if it's a guy,
you want one or two positions up, and it's gonna
(44:03):
cost you that third, which we get. We get way
we give away draft picks.
Speaker 4 (44:08):
You want to give away the third.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
What do you think about that, mister green shirt, the
green room man, listen, many.
Speaker 5 (44:19):
I'm good, But you get players.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
You need players, man. Bottom line, I'm talking about B
and B plus the eight players. It'd be got a
lot of c.
Speaker 5 (44:30):
We if we see it, they should see it.
Speaker 6 (44:34):
Yeah, they know what this team is up the middle
of the offense and the defense. The NFL knows what
this team is up the middle of the offensive defense
if they don't put the necessary not Now, maybe they
think that Solomon Thomas and uh the the Peyton kid
from New Orleans and bring it back oh so, and
that Miles's gonna take this stuff that they needed him
(44:55):
to take.
Speaker 5 (44:56):
But then that's enough.
Speaker 6 (44:57):
Then then we'll see it's gonna it's gonna play out
right front of our ohs, and they gonna know when
we're gonna know if it was or what wasn't. And
that's what I'm saying for For a first year coach,
this is your first this is your first impression. So
if I'm him, I'm pushing to get those those gaps
filled so that I have the opportunity to show them
(45:18):
some sort of growth, to say, well, we stopped this,
we stopped that. Now my trajectory is putting in the
right direction. If you come here next year and you're
still being gassed up the middle, what are we doing?
Speaker 5 (45:30):
What are we doing?
Speaker 3 (45:30):
All right?
Speaker 4 (45:31):
I got a question for you before we get out
of here. I am going to a wedding this weekend.
Speaker 7 (45:35):
Okay, this is a.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
Fashion question, So I expect Jesse to be brutally honest
with me.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
And you know, as you As you age, your fashion
sense changes and you you go through different periods of
your life where you dress a certain way.
Speaker 4 (45:49):
Except Nate.
Speaker 7 (45:49):
He's always gonna be.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
In the warm ups and the boots with his socks
pulled up to his knees and his shorts.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
That's old in dementia.
Speaker 6 (45:58):
When that when that check coming, you're gonna put that
suit and tie on.
Speaker 7 (46:02):
Now, Yeah, I got one of the.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Whatever that tier is, I will we right, So.
Speaker 4 (46:10):
My question, I'm going to a wedding. It's a country wedding.
Speaker 7 (46:13):
It's out in the country. It's in a field with
this weather. They got a tent. It's supposed to be
by this barn.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
You know, so cowboy boots, you know, sport code jeans. Yeah,
I used to dress that way back in the day,
right like I used to, believe it or not.
Speaker 7 (46:30):
I wore wranglers, I rode.
Speaker 4 (46:31):
A bull before.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
I used to wear a cowboy hat. This was back
in my Louisiana days.
Speaker 6 (46:35):
You go down to them tps. I'm telling you right now,
I got this couple of dations down there. Ye man,
you last eight seconds you get you get on them
both dations down of tps.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
You ain't last day even if it spurs and all
last and eighty seconds.
Speaker 4 (46:49):
All right, yeah, I almost said something.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
So anyway, I used to dress that way, but you know,
recently last you know, this era of my life, I'm
more into like sneakers and you know, skinny jeans and.
Speaker 4 (47:05):
Stuff like that. But I'm going to this wedding.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
I do have a pair of couple pairs of nice
boots just for especially Lukzy's across the street, and uh
so for this wedding, I'm completely selling out, Like I don't.
I don't wear boots unless I'm doing something. But I'm
going everybody else is going to be in boots. Should
I be true to who I am now and just
like I always do in life and buck the trend
(47:29):
and be like now, dude, they can just live with
or do I go like, you know what, it's a
country wedding?
Speaker 7 (47:33):
Is it be fun?
Speaker 4 (47:34):
It'll take me back to my roots? Like, am I
selling out by your roots?
Speaker 6 (47:39):
If you're doing something that's in your roots, I ain't
selling out goods. That's you being, that's who you, that's
a part of.
Speaker 7 (47:46):
Who you are.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
But then am I selling out now by dressing the
way that I do? And dressing twenty years younger than
what I probably should you already do.
Speaker 5 (47:53):
But that's okay, No, man, put the put the boots
on that.
Speaker 7 (47:59):
Because it's not about you.
Speaker 14 (48:00):
It's about the people are getting okay.
Speaker 5 (48:06):
I was just wondering about yourself.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
Yeah, yeah, it's always about what you want to be.
Speaker 5 (48:11):
That.
Speaker 7 (48:11):
This wasn't about me. That everybody explain them, make it.
Speaker 6 (48:16):
Make sure your wringers. Thanks Chris, you can see you
know what I'm saying. Their baggy, their get tight. They
used they used to.
Speaker 7 (48:24):
Yeah, I wish hours I.
Speaker 4 (48:27):
Had some pictures back in the extra starch. No, I'm
not wearing a hat.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
Come on, I have won't fit because my hair is
too long right now, So man, you can go. And
I ain't going to buy a cowboy hat just for
this one thing.
Speaker 6 (48:38):
Not not, but I want to impressed the ladies. Make
sure your Jesus tight, extra tight. Yeah, take a blue shoe.
Speaker 7 (48:46):
Would just be get your small up, all fellas that bullet.
Speaker 4 (48:55):
Jesse Kirk set next week, same time, same place. When's
the draft?
Speaker 5 (49:02):
Twenty fourth? Oh we got my boy, forget my boy,
my boy got the book is out?
Speaker 7 (49:07):
Oh look at that boy.
Speaker 5 (49:08):
Book is out. My boy The book is out look
at Kurt. Yeah, it's available now.
Speaker 8 (49:12):
Digital copies available now, prints available in the pro shops
and various. The editor of it, it'll be yeah, it'll
be online, print copy online on why do you get.
Speaker 1 (49:21):
Your name at him? Editor? Now?
Speaker 7 (49:23):
You know sitting there someone signing you know what? Closer.
Speaker 4 (49:26):
We don't want no time, get come back closer we
get to the draft. The more I'm starting to agree
with Jesse. I am not against a wide receiver in
the first round, the.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
Best, if he the best player, if he if he
the best guy, get him.
Speaker 4 (49:37):
Pat Man needs Robin there he goes. Go all right, fellas,
get seeing you, see you next week. Hang with the boys.
Speaker 12 (49:45):
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the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
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