May 22, 2025 • 45 mins
Will all this culture change mean anything if the Cowboys don’t win games? Do players care if Micah Parsons isn’t on the practice field during OTAs? How about if Trevon Diggs is doing his rehab away from the Star? Plus, Tyler Booker has stepped right into working with the first team. Is he that good? Or is this due to the coaching change?
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Cowboys blowing out of the backfield, exploding down the sidelines.
This he is Hanging with the Boys, presented by wing
Stuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now your hosts Nate Newton,
Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross Shooting.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Thursday one four. A little late today, Hey, little tardy,
and that can mean only one thing. It's time for
the people show Hanging with the boys. You're looking live
at a warm Tostedos Championship Plaza outside Ford Center at
the Star in Frisco, Texas, where high school graduation is
(00:57):
taking place this week inside the Star, multiple graduations per night. Kurt,
we'll talk about that here in a little bit that
holds a very special place in your heart this weekend
and your home. It is eighty four degrees, it feels
like ninety one. The high is eighty eight, the low
is sixty eight.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
It was gonna be sixty nine. Close. He is Shennon.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
In the back is Chris. This is Kurt. Three pumps Daniels.
I am Salt and Pepper Poppy. We're without Nate today.
Who knows where Nate is at, But I am Salt
and Pepper Poppy. Together we make hanging with the boys
the sports talk equivalent of brow people.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
When we speak.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Brought to you each and every show by Wing Stop
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Speaker 6 (01:44):
How we doing today?
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Good man?
Speaker 7 (01:47):
Good.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
I'm ready for the week to be over, though, are you? Yeah,
I'm just ready.
Speaker 6 (01:50):
I'm ready for a little weekend action, little holiday weekend.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Uh yeah, a little rest, relaxation.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Yeah, nothing, nothing on the agenda, just rest.
Speaker 7 (01:59):
But you, Kurt, Yeah, graduations not this week, and they're
coming up. It's coming up, so yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Let us know when it is because it's a big moment.
So it's a very momentous moment in your life.
Speaker 6 (02:13):
It's the last one.
Speaker 7 (02:15):
Youngest, finally graduating high school.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
You're gonna work on number six after this, No.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Crazy, you start all over again.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Work practice, practice makes perfect, praknice makes perfect.
Speaker 7 (02:30):
All right, No, it will be a celebration for my
wife and I.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
Yeah, every going around the house naked.
Speaker 7 (02:36):
No, but we got the last one out of high school.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Let's go.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
Congratulations. When is that? I got two weeks?
Speaker 7 (02:42):
Yeah? Well, his last school days tomorrow with graduations another
week or so.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Okay, all right, well good, good good, let's uh, since
we won't have a show before then.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I think that's something to say.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
I don't know what it is. I think I don't know.
I feel like I had something I'm supposed to say.
Right after that, I lost my complete train of thought
on what he.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Was thinking about, Kurt Neck and you just would like,
please might get out of my head, get clear, scramble
my brain all up right there, like Terry Bradshaw.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Yeah, naked.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Well, since we won't have a show before h Monday, uh,
Memorial Day, shout out to all the people who have
served and continue to serve. Great weekend to kick off
the summer. But don't forget what it's all about.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
So shout out to my uncle Stanley, my uncle Burley,
both served in the military.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
Uncle Burley, that's the hell of a name.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
He looks like a brilly but like so you you
think grizzled, right, Yeah, no, it's Burley like it. It's
very sleek, really very very sleek, very smooth. Okay, forty
one years on this earth, I've never heard Uncle Burley
yell one time?
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Really never.
Speaker 7 (03:57):
I had to get the name Burley, that's literally his name.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
It's notname. What branch of the military did they serve?
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Uncle Stanley was in the army. Uncle uh, Uncle Brody
was in the Marines.
Speaker 6 (04:13):
Yeah, so you've got it in your family.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
You got history of politicians, you know, public service, their
public service to the military. Do you ever want to
do any of that, like any kind of public service?
Speaker 4 (04:25):
I do do I did do a public service. What
do you do hanging with the boys? This is a
public service each and every week. I get to sit
here and talk to all of you and give you.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Serve the government in some kind of government capacity.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
I knew I couldn't do that. When my brother, my
oldest brother, was.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Was going to be mayor, and I was sitting in
one of the little town hall meetings and.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
They said on you know they sit on that what
was it called deos? What is it called that thing
that they.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Said, and you think, we know, go ahead, And I
watched them like just go at each other.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Yeah, and it got personal, and.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
I'm like and then after it was over, they were
like standing like feet from each other, like having a
casual conversation.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
And I'm like, oh, I couldn't do this. I'm like,
I have too much aggression to personal.
Speaker 7 (05:19):
A lot of people would say, all these football players
every game there banging heads.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yes, after her game, that's perfect, but you get it out.
I get it out. I get it you and you
insult me.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
I insult you, you get you break physical body.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Harm to me.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
I brief arm to you, and we're done, and we're done.
But you just can't say what you want to me.
And I hold it was like, yuck it up with
you afterwards? No, I never never you you wanted to
like join the militarything.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Like that, you know, I thought about I. I don't
know how close I came, but I really wanted to.
After nine to eleven, like I felt really motivated to
do something.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Patriot had that Pat Tillman look to you.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
Yeah, yeah, And I really wanted to do something.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
But I was like when it kind of got time
to like get in the car and go actually go.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
Do it, I was like, Okay, this is a commitment.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I'm not good at commitment less a life commitment.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
I'm too rationale for the like for the for the
armed services. Yeah, because like if you tell me, hey,
we're going to just send you over wait, hold on.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
You would have you would have the biggest problem with
them trying to mentally break you down, okay and make
you fall in line.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
But okay, So here's the thing. I know that I
would be one. I'm one of two things. I Am
going to be like Green Beret, like the highest level
of like all in, all in, yeah, or I'm out
like I'm in, I'm discharged, kicking me out because I
(06:53):
was started asking questions like, wait, so what are you
gonna do? So wait, I have to go in first.
You mean to tell me this I E what's called
I E d's uh these bombs?
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I gotta go on first.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
No, that's not gonna happen, Like, well that's in order,
not today, not today. Yeah, yeah, or I'm telling you.
Or I would have been like you know what, because
I know I can psych my mind out to go
to that level, And I would have been.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
I would have been Chris Kyle.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
You'd have been the machine.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
I'd have been Chris Kyle.
Speaker 7 (07:25):
You'd have been running down special teams units and bringing
into linebackers.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
M'd have been Chris. I would have been all the
way in.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
Yeah, what about you? You ever think about doing all
of that stuff?
Speaker 7 (07:36):
Briefly. But yeah, sometimes I think because I you know,
you tell me what to do, I'll get it done,
you know, right, But it's kind of the same thing like, man.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
I don't you know, I'm just a commitment.
Speaker 7 (07:47):
Yeah, it's a commitment and going over that hill, Yeah,
I'm not sure i'd be ready for that.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Shout out to everybody that, yeah, the guys that could
do it, thank you.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Yeah, thank you for I got them good, especially if
you get like one hundred percent of the benefits when
you're done. Oh yeah, I've got I got a homegirl
who's like one hundred percent like disabled vet.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
I'm like, shout a nice house, Yeah, money down, tired.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
I have a buddy that's he was a he was
a major, so he gets that major money and he's
still still does uh active, he's not active, but he
does reserves. So he still goes like once every three
months and he goes and gets to jump out of
airplanes and do cool stuff.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
And he gets that.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
If there's any cute young ladies has one hundred percent disabled,
ill at me.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Yeah, they need the benefits. I need to be If
you're not coming with the benefits and I'm.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Good, maybe what you're give him your Twitter handle.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
At mister fourth law. There you go. We can change it, though,
we can change could be I canna be at disabled
vet one ndred percent to the handles negotiations, A, it's all,
it's all negotiable.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
All right, Well, let's get to some football before we
go to break since we did a good job of
wasting the first segment without Nate.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
By the way, we have no idea where Nate is.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Jesse sent the group text this morning about seven thirty
so on the road.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
He called me twice today. Yeah, called me twice today.
I didn't answer.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
My feelings are hurt and he didn't call me. Do
he call you, Kurt? No, man call me? Oh see,
ch okay, we see, we see what we see.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
What's always tell you if I don't have twenty minutes,
I don't answer.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
True.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Yeah, it's a it's a yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
You gotta have to drive.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
That's one of those.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
When I get in the car to go back home
from here, I'll call you back.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
That's literally the plan. When I get in the car
to go home, I'm like, it's a good time to
call me back.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Shout out to the stars went in last night in
dramatic fashion.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Oh came back to me.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
You just you just said that when you talk about
the fourth shout out to the to the Arlington Martin
young ladies who won the No Girls Flag football this
past Monday, we had it right here in the Ford Center.
Competitive game. It was De Soto versus Arlington Martin and
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there was a championship game and it was a competitive game.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
Breakout.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Not this time, not this time we had. We had good,
clean game. It was super competitive and Arlington Martin, man,
it was you know, that has been a joy. Like
I didn't know what to expect when Danny. When Danny
called and was like Danny McCrae, it was like, Bride
needs your help.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
And I'm just like okay. He's like, but I'm trying
to get the flight football thing. I just need I need,
I need, I need my guys. I'm like, you got me?
Speaker 6 (10:44):
Was the first question out of your mouth when he
said I need your help? How much?
Speaker 7 (10:47):
Nope? What'd you dope?
Speaker 6 (10:50):
So is that a special teams thing? It's a special
team I'll.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Tell you guys.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
You know who are good teammates and who aren't good teammates.
When Danny said he called me and said I need you.
I'm there.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
I didn't ask him nothing, nothing I did. He said okay.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
I said, okay, what however it goes, I got you
and he was like all right.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
And so initially we did.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
We started with the clinics, so I coached in clinics,
and then we did clinics all spring and summer, and
then the team started coming to formulate, and then there
was an opportunity that he thought I might have to coach.
And I didn't want to coach, but I would have
done it if it need be. But they got the
frighte people along, so I was I was a field manager.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Okay, field manager.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
What does a field manager do besides manage the field?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (11:36):
I had I had the Southern fields, so I had
Kincaid and Forrester. Whenever we played in one of those
and I come in, I set the field up. Okay,
sure everything is is where it's supposed to be. I'm
I'm a I'm abreast of the rule book, so make
sure for the refs.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Coaches back up.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Yeah, yeah, they called. I had a nice little shirt
to field manager on it.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Got his shirts.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
They heard I read alone that these girls flag football
games are more physical than then with the cowboys are
doing right now.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Let me tell you, I let me tell you it
got physical some games.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
It really did. But it was it was a treat
to watch those girls.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
When they came in during the clinics and when I
tell you, I was like, I said, Mac, I don't
know if this is gonna work because it was bad.
And to see them develop and learn, Oh my goodness,
it is. I mean, couldn't line up like they didn't.
They didn't know start from nothing. You know, girls are
(12:36):
standing there like at the line of scream was like,
what we do now, I'm like, let's work on getting
the stance.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Let's work on you know, you can't move to the
ball moves. They're like, well, she take it too long
to say, hut say, I'm like okay.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
And then once they get a little organized and.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Start competing and now they're running routes like to watch
the championship game Monday night.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
It was. It was a true, true treat to see it.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
And shoutut to Danny who is the mastermind behind it all,
Whitney uh Faulkner and the rest of the guys.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Man. Yeah, but Danny. Danny. Yeah, good job, Danny, good job.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
Remember your roots, Danny.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Whenever you're coaching the Olympic flag football team where you
came from, give us.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
A shout out.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
Girls got scholarships too, really yeah, Texas, Texas, Westland, Westland, Wesleyan, Musleyan, Wesleyan. Uh,
they have a flag football Really, that's awesome. U T
Arlington is getting a flaging.
Speaker 7 (13:30):
A lot of colleges now are doing very cool.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
So we had three girls from really hit scholarships.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
That's awesome.
Speaker 7 (13:37):
We're trying to make it a UIO sanctioned.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
That'd be awesome.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
All right, Well we successfully did it killed the first segment,
but we do. There is actually football right on the
other side of that wall going on right now that
I wasn't even aware that was happening today until I
walk in the building. In let's talk about who's there,
who's not, is it important, and whatever else we can
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Anyway, a miss Galicia shout out.
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I saw her in the hall the other day.
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She just looked at me and started laughing.
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She did what show do you think she was laughing about?
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Oh?
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Sea for her, Glicia, you can always come down if
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Speaker 4 (18:09):
Why did you park at I would why did you
park the van there? First question?
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Yeah, I mean I wonder if he would do that.
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I should text him, text him right now, see if
you ever reply.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Yeah, he's probably fishing.
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Of course he is. That's all he does. Is he
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Speaker 3 (18:28):
He probably doesn't want that out there what his gig
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Speaker 6 (18:32):
I'm sure y'all know. Uh, okay, football, scripple football. Here
we go.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
They're out there practicing. Who's out there and who's not
that that should be? Is Mike out there practice?
Speaker 7 (18:47):
Probably not. He's doing a hold in like Zach Martin
did a.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
Couple of years, which means you're here in the building.
Speaker 7 (18:53):
You're here in the building, but you're not necessarily.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Which from a player's standpoint, is smart because you don't
want to get injured.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
You you but you want to be around the guys.
He's you know.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
I think one of the things we've always talked about
is is Micah a leader?
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Right?
Speaker 6 (19:07):
He wants to be a leader?
Speaker 4 (19:08):
He said it.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
He he talks sometimes like a leader. Sometimes his actions
aren't leadership quality. Is this a step in that direction
for taking over for a tank or whoever in that
locker room is going to be the defensive leader?
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Is this is this a leadership thing?
Speaker 6 (19:25):
Or is this a like what?
Speaker 7 (19:27):
What?
Speaker 4 (19:27):
What? Is this a good thing for Micah? It's a thing.
It's not good.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
It's not bad the from a player's perspective, and I
mean his teammates. You hope, but you don't hope that
one day you're in this situation.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
You hope explain that.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
You hope that one day your contract is such a
big contract that you don't want to that they don't
want to sign it right away, that they got tea
and go through the parameters and the details some numbers,
find where this money gonna come from? You you want
you you hope that that is you one day.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
But you also hope that it's.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Not you because you get it done and now that
you're back on the field doing what you love to do.
So it's it's it's one of those things where as
a player, you you you mind your own pockets and
you mind your own business and you go about doing
the work that you're supposed to do. And when Michaeh
gets here, he gets here, but you understand that he
(20:31):
gotta get his money. Yeah, and if it now, if
it wasn't contract related, if it was just well, I'd
rather do it in Miami, or I'd rather do it
in California, or I'd rather do it in Houston or
you know, train wherever in New York City or whatever
that's different. That's a choice like that. That's a choice
that you don't have to make.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
She's done that in the past.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
What she's done that in the past, And that's a
part of why some of that leadership stuff have come
down on his head in a negative way.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
This I championed this pay me.
Speaker 7 (21:04):
It's good, it's good for Micah, but is it good
for the team and in the culture and all that
they're trying to do.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Does it help him develop does it help you bond
just being around?
Speaker 5 (21:14):
And if he's here though, like he is here, right,
he's in the building. You know, he's doing stuff in
the locker room. I'm sure they talked about the ping
pong tables in the locker room. I'm sure MICA's competitive.
He's on the ping pong table, and he's in the
group chat and he's in the lunch room and he's
sitting in some meetings and so all that. Like when
he's here, he's here, he's just not on the field here,
So the camaraderie is being built. But if we're being
(21:41):
completely honest, we don't care about that.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
We don't. That's them thing we want to know.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Is it gonna work on I should say Thursdays now,
and I was gonna say Sunday, but they play all
the day and Thursday night games. Now, is it gonna
work on game day? That's what That's all we care about,
whether you're whether you're bonding or kumba yai, and it's
coming together and y'all have the culture that you want.
I do think culture is important. I think it's a
(22:12):
component of it. But winning, winning is what we look for.
From Micah dak CD, d ron Bland, you name the name.
If they're in a uniform. That's the part that we
care about. Great, you're playing ping pong. I think there
are some good that come out of ping pong. It's
(22:33):
a competitive it gets competitive, it keeps you here. Just
another forty five minutes to learn that guy across from you,
to have that moment across from you, and in those moments,
anything can happen. Anything can happen in the sense of
a ping pong game instead of me just getting my
stuff out of practice and bouncing and I know that
we're not having any interaction. That means there is a
(22:54):
zero chance that anything can develop there. A ping pong
game now means it starts off at ping pong and
the next thing, you know, you're giving your testimony and
now we're now we're sharing something spiritually, or you're giving
an idea or thought or where you come from or
whatever it is. And now there's a way of interacting
because of around.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
The ping pong table. Yeah, so I get that part.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
But great, I know that you like this or I
know that you do that.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
That's great for y'all.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
Is that gonna get me three extra sacks for us.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
Yeah, what we're looking for is does whatever y'all doing
over there.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
Translate to equate to us winning games?
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Winning games?
Speaker 7 (23:40):
Yeah, I think that's what we're gonna see. With all
this talk about culture and the ping pong table and
the basketball hoop and the dinners and everything, it all
sounds really good, but man, if they don't, if they're
not winning, we're all gonna look back and say, man,
they were spending too much time playing ping pong table.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
What are you doing?
Speaker 5 (23:58):
And it's not exclusive to the Dallas cow Boys, right,
It's it's it's exclusive to just about any team sport,
to the Cincinnati Bengals, to the Dallas Stars, to the
Texas Rangers, to the FC.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
You know, by the team, it's it's it's it's It's.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Not a thing where culture is trying to be built
justin Cowboy Nation. It's trying to be building every thirty
other two other teams in the league.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
But you know what I like about all these things,
and I wish I wish Nate was here today to
talk about this.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
It's exactly what you said.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
It's getting guys to hang out just a little bit longer,
especially in this day and age where everybody's quick too,
I think will quick to get out of here and
go unplug, or go get on social media, or go
game or do whatever. That extra fifteen to twenty minutes
turns into what you said. And you do that multiple
(24:49):
times over the course of the off season and even
during the season that on that on game day, you're
gonna play a little bit harder for that guy that.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
You wonder why Danny can call me and whatever's on
the other side of the phone, I'm there because y'all
spent that time, the time together, we were in the
fox hole together. I knew that running down there. He
had my back, he knew that running down I have
a picture.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
I want to say it was Thanksgiving. We played the Saints.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
What was the Roy william Roy Williams fumble the slant
he's going to the house. I think it was Thanksgiving,
played the Saints, and I have a picture in my
home as I'm making Roggie Bush fumble on a punt
return and you know who's right over it, Like who's
right behind me? Danny McCrae, Like literally like I'm you
see me swiping down, punching the ball out and Danny's
(25:38):
literally right there in the frame. That's why he can
call me. That's why I know what I'm like. Oh,
he looks over me and he goes, hey, Jay, Holly,
you take you go this time.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
I don't. I don't want to do it, but I
got you. It's that happens in there, right, And.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
You don't do that if you don't know that.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
I personally right and that And that's what Nate always
talks about, is they did in the nineties.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
They did stuff together.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
They stayed at the facility, they played dominoes, they played cards,
and I think I'm here in the White House back
but I'm interested to see because you're right, Kurt, like,
it's it sounds great in theory, but unless it translates
on game day, like.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
What are we doing?
Speaker 7 (26:23):
Yeah, so it's gonna be questioned.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
And this is this is I feel like this is
the biggest coaching personality swing by just the things that
are happening and the interactions and the few things that
we've seen between the time of Schottenheimer getting hired until now,
Like it's a big, huge philosophy change. So it'll be
(26:47):
interested to see if it if it translates on game day,
all right, Let's take our next break. When we come back,
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Speaker 3 (29:52):
The folks on the other side of the building listen
to the show?
Speaker 6 (29:58):
Because and I wish Nate was. And this is a
terrible show for Nate to.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Miss because it looks like Booker is working immediately with
the starters and getting reps. And that's something I know
Nate has been happened standing on the table. If you
draft a guy in the first round, let him play right.
You've you've jumped in on that too. Jesse Goidon was
(30:22):
taking second team.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
Reps at the beginning last year.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Is this a is this that Booker is that much
better of a talent or is this a change in
philosophy in your opinion, Jesse to wear you drafted him
in the first round, give him all the reps, get
him through training camp, and then and then make your decision.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
I think it's a change of philosophy. Gen Giton was
a project to start with. I think Booker is a
is a short shot. And the guy that's you know,
nothing against Brock. You know Abby, we weize all you want,
(31:01):
my boy, have one go at it, get a handful,
but this is superior talent. There was a reason you
were drafted where you were drafted. There was a reason
why he was drafted where he was drafted.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Talent ain't the same. And so.
Speaker 7 (31:17):
Yeah, they can see that. Well they're not going to
mess around.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
With Let's get him in there, like time is of
the essence. Let's get him in here.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Let's know what the hell we got so that we
I don't want to start having to make os adjustments
in August. Let's make the adjustments now. If we look
up and we go, oh, oh, we wanted to get
a veteran in here, because this kid's not it's not
it's not computing and whether that be because you already
(31:48):
know whatever techniques you learned at Bama are gonna be
different here. Not saying everything, but every coach has their
different styles. You know what I prefer hands to be in.
I prefer for you to punch. Now, I prefer.
Speaker 7 (32:04):
It right Booker because and he's switching sides from right guard,
I mean from left guard to right guard. So I
guess I'm saying there's stuff to learn.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
There's not to learn, and you want to just make
sure that in that learning process that we get every
opportunity to properly evaluate the talent. And now after this
ota is done, guess what, I sit Booker out and
I said, man.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Let's let's let's let's watch some of these cutups.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Okay here you're going up against here that you know, Hey,
let's let's get that Kickilate got a little bit more. Now,
when you know, you get some pads on. We had
a little bit more, and we just continue to break
this thing down. But you're allowed to see the consistent
process of a player, and I think that that will
allow you to get the training camp and when the
(32:51):
pads come on and you go get a little bit
of competition. You won't have as many questions, you won't
have as many unknown questions about the player. You'll be
able to go in and say all right, because I'm
sure they still do the same thing and correct me
if I'm wrong, Chris. But normally when you leave after
mini camps and you go away, they send you a letter,
(33:14):
they tell you what can't reporting time. They may do
an email. Now they may not do the paper letter anymore,
but you have, you know, the things that you're supposed
to weigh in at and that kind of stuff and
all the traveling information. But your coach also sends you
a little note and say, hey, continue to work on A,
B and C, you know, because we saw that over
(33:35):
time and now we're heading in the training camp and
we want to make sure that you're sharp in those things.
So wherever you're going, make sure that you're working on
these specific things that we think you need to improve
on or can improve on to help your game, to
help us when we get this thing really rocking and rolling.
Speaker 7 (33:49):
So we've talked about Micah being here in some form
and fashion. We've talked about Booker is now being here
and he's in there. What do you think about Treyvon
Diggs doing his rehab away from the facility. He is
not at the Star now and this is the same
thing he did last year. And I don't think people
are real happy about that. But is it kind of
(34:12):
a deal, Like players are like, yeah, he can do
what he do orre they like he should be here again.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
Another situation where players don't care. Really, they don't care
where he works out at. But the hope is that
he's working. Yeah, that's the hope. I don't say that, Jesse,
I'm getting better at that, why are you?
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Yeah, Yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say that.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
But let's just say that there are maybe people in
this building that are happy days probably somewhere else working
out because of the things in the past, that he
is not one of the best workers when it comes
to rehab, that he doesn't always show up, that he
doesn't always put in the best effort, and it becomes
more of a headache than than to help to rehab
him and get him back on the field.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
But as a player, nah, well, we get upset. Is
if you come back and now you're not ready, that's
when we get upset.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
That's when we like, damn, bro well, you're just in
Miami and Miami in or were you actually in there working?
Because we look at we we we're looking for you
to be ready to go when it's time for us
to go, because having another corner out there where we're
short at that position will help our defense out, will
help our team out. But if you down there and
(35:27):
you just being you, you know what I'm saying, You
down there slinking that thing and ain't really putting in
the work, Well, now you hurt us when you could
have been in Dallas.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
You could have came on back to Dallas.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
Worked out at the Star and at least been doing
the right thing. But now I'm not saying that he's
doing that. I'm just saying that's that's when we beginning
to care. That's when that's when you hear the frustrations
come from players and the leaders of the team. Is
when somebody's as away doing rehab and they come back
and all of a sudden they're likely wouldn't even really rehabit.
(36:00):
I know that we get the videos and we got
the documentary stuff coming out, but that don't I mean,
I remember I remember Gronk. I mean this a couple
of years ago when Gronk was playing, Gronk went in
the backyard and he was sending these videos to Coach Belichick,
like of showing him like, Eh, I'm home and I'm
working out. Gronk later admitted that he went in the
(36:21):
backyard and he brought three or four different shirts, and
he said he just ran a couple of drills in
one shirt, took off, put another shirt. He could have
multiple days of it because he was like, man, I'm
not working out every day, but I'll just keep saying
I'll keep making these multiple different shirt videos, sending them in.
He was like, I'll dress it up and we'll put
water on my head, got out here.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
With the sweating.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
He's like, I got three different shirts on, and I
was sending videos, you know, periodically to Coach Belichick to
let him know that I'm out head working When it
was all just a skit that he did in fifteen
twenty minutes.
Speaker 6 (36:54):
I think that was during COVID.
Speaker 12 (36:56):
They were, yeah, they weren't in the building, so they
have to send in their workouts of the team, and
he would do them all on one day, different outfits.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Chris, you would know this hell. Jesse you and Kirk
might know this. Dax seems like he's a full go
of practice. Pickens is out there. What do we know
what number he's wearing.
Speaker 6 (37:16):
For now? Right, I don't know if that's in stone
is gonna stick?
Speaker 7 (37:20):
He said, it's not decided, not decided yet.
Speaker 6 (37:22):
They have to give him a number though, Right, so
he had thirteen.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Somebody else on the team's got thirteen. But there's also
multiple numbers because you got so many guys, right.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
A couple of sevens out there too, right, Yeah, so.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
We don't know. There's no final official word on what now.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Marquis Bell conversation. Nothing to start to twenty five.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
K Now, if you feel you're about to get cut,
take it down a little bit.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
You'll you get that, get that out?
Speaker 5 (37:45):
Yeah, yeah, you got like denzelm But Denzel said, I'm
from around the way. I'm leaving here with something. You
gotta leave here with something. Mark, He's all right. If
you feel like, you know, if you feel like will
McLay and company replace you.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Take take ten, take that discount, Take ten and a
steak dinner.
Speaker 5 (38:05):
Yeah, take ten, Take a take a mile vacation or
whatever you can get your hands on. Don't leave here
with be like Denzel, I'm leaving here with something from
around the way.
Speaker 6 (38:13):
My boy, Chris, this will affect you a little bit.
How do you feel about the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Uh being on the NFC East version of Hard Knocks.
I'm pretty sure Coach Schottenheimer's probably like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 6 (38:27):
Like, like, you're gonna have.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Cameras in every single room in this place my first
year and it's all gonna be database somewhere when I'm trying.
Speaker 7 (38:38):
To no distractions.
Speaker 6 (38:40):
Yeah, none at all.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
You know, they'll have a whole crew out of training
camp and all that horse aren't up right?
Speaker 6 (38:47):
How do you feel about it?
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Crew?
Speaker 6 (38:48):
Who?
Speaker 12 (38:48):
My knowledge, the way that NFL films works that is
they have a single crew that goes that will be
at the facility, meaning like a camera guy on a
guy and a producer.
Speaker 6 (39:01):
Three people.
Speaker 12 (39:03):
I mean, they'll do the they'll do the team meeting
room and stuff like that.
Speaker 6 (39:06):
They'll put the you know, robotics in there.
Speaker 12 (39:08):
But I think it's a very minimal crew because it's
through four teams, so they.
Speaker 6 (39:14):
Don't have forty people on the night. Like, no, it's
not training huge. You know, when we did a couple
of years back. Remember it was all or nothing, was right,
all or nothing? It was during the season.
Speaker 12 (39:24):
Yes, that crew is basically the same crew that does
the Hard Knocks, gotcha.
Speaker 6 (39:29):
So it won't be too invasive. It won't be as
invasive as you think it would be.
Speaker 5 (39:33):
Is there's something that you want to see during this
Hard Knocks for the Cowboys, me, all of us, everybody.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
I liked.
Speaker 6 (39:43):
I like the program. I like the behind the scenes access.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
I like the program. I love it. No, nothing I
like that. I like those.
Speaker 6 (39:53):
You know what I want to see? I want to
see who George who Pickens really is.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
You know, I was just thinking because you know, he said, you.
Speaker 6 (40:02):
Know, what have I really done?
Speaker 3 (40:03):
You see me get pissed off on game day, which
you know he kind of gets a bad rap.
Speaker 6 (40:08):
Right, It's been a long time since.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
We've had a wide receiver with some attitude since deads Right,
We've gotten really spoiled around here because CD can be
a little bit of a diva, but he's not a
you know, he's not your wild, boisterous, loud in your face,
slinging his helmet got you know, and you mean, I
mean we No, Amara is just kind of like, you know,
throw me the ball. I'm just gonna sit over here,
(40:32):
like I ain't getting your face, like I'm just gonna
sit down, you know. And you know, even your backup
got like Tolbert, you know, Cedric Wilson, you had a
really quiet wide receiver room. And I'm not mad about
you know, I wasn't here the day that, you know,
the week that he got signed, and I missed out
on the whole conversation. But I'm not mad about having
somebody that's got that you have to sometimes calm down
(40:53):
on the sideline because he wants to be involved so much,
right So I'm but I'm interested to learn about him
as a person, because you know, you haven't got to
see him other than how the media portrays him and
what gets put out there, like and sometimes your perception is.
Speaker 6 (41:07):
Both you know this both ways.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
You're a darling in the media and in that locker
room you're.
Speaker 6 (41:12):
Just you're a jerk and you're not a good teammate.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
And sometimes it's the opposite. You look like you're a
terrible teammate and you would you would do anything for
that guy.
Speaker 6 (41:22):
So I'm really interested about that.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
I feel that way about Shaddy like I want to see.
I want I want to see because right now, like
he is, I said, I think, I don't know where
I said it. I know, I said up, I don't
know what show I said it on. But he is
like many, so many jobs, so many jobs.
Speaker 6 (41:42):
Have you ever had multiple girlfriends?
Speaker 4 (41:46):
Nope?
Speaker 6 (41:47):
Okay, really that's just wondering.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
That was like you have a hard time keep you
have a hard time keeping your shows straight?
Speaker 6 (41:53):
What you say where of? Like, there's no way he's
ever juggled more than one relationship.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
Who will want to?
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Some people do that at so people live home, different lives.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
Just sorry, one woman is enough, he said it.
Speaker 6 (42:07):
He said it that one woman.
Speaker 5 (42:09):
That's a headache enough sheep. But right now, like Shoddy
is on a like Barry Bond, Sammy Sosa, Mark McGuire
like home Run.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
Everything he does, he's sitting on the trajectories like straight
up everything, and all we all we have to go
off right now is when he talks. That's it.
Speaker 5 (42:31):
That's all we have to go off of. There's nothing,
there's no data that we can go off of as
a head coach. So all we have is him speaking
him out at the events, him setting the culture him
in press conferences him whatever it is, it's all we have,
and every time he speaks he's been home run. I
(42:53):
want to see what happens when when the grease is hot.
I want to see him when the grease is hot.
I want to see. I want to see that side.
I want to see when there's a two game losing streak,
if they're a two game losing streak, I want to
see when something nothing go right?
Speaker 6 (43:06):
Does he yell? Does he throw the headset down?
Speaker 5 (43:08):
How do they respond to him? How do he respond
to them? How does he respond if GP goes off?
How does he respond if.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
If if CD does his thing and he goes and
stands eighty yards away from his teammates, How does he
react with Micah? How does he? You know? I want
to see. I want to see that part because as
of right now, from the from the surface.
Speaker 6 (43:30):
Of its price on national TV, from.
Speaker 5 (43:33):
The search of it all, I mean, he is he
has done a great job being a media darling and
saying absolutely all the right things.
Speaker 6 (43:42):
It's going to be a fun year one way or
the other.
Speaker 7 (43:44):
It is always is interesting, always.
Speaker 6 (43:46):
Interesting around here.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
But this this lot of storylines this year hard knocks
is going to have their hands full trying to keep
it even across the four teams when there's going to
be so much drama going on here.
Speaker 6 (44:02):
Dude, if you think about it, like dan Quinn's.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
Story, great story, and and and a lot like Shody,
like a total team guy, total players coach and really
personable and really cares about his players.
Speaker 6 (44:15):
And then here and then you got Sirianni, the guy
that you want to hate, but everything he.
Speaker 7 (44:18):
Does, like all those personalities up there, yeah.
Speaker 6 (44:22):
Like it's it.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
And then the Giants. Everybody's kind of like who cares?
Speaker 5 (44:25):
But giants probably like, don't show what's again last time
we did this. They're still making memes about this whole thing.
My son's telling me that you ever get this Jaydan Daniels, Yeah,
my son is telling me to get Jaden Daniels and
Saquon and I'm just like, no, we're gonna We're gonna
pay Daniel jump. Like it's just the Giants probably like
please we he suffered enough. We've suffered enough.
Speaker 4 (44:49):
But you know you're gonna have big down on there
from philadel you know.
Speaker 6 (44:52):
Oh yeah, so well, fellas enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
Maybe one day we'll get the whole crew back together
against before training camp. Chris, thanks for keeping us on
the air. Josh, thanks for keeping him company. We will
be back next Thursday. Enjoy your Memorial Day weekend. Don't
forget what it's about.
Speaker 6 (45:09):
Next week we'll be back.
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Cowboys blowing out of the backfield, exploding down the sidelines.
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Speaker 3 (00:34):
Thursday one four. A little late today, Hey, little tardy,
and that can mean only one thing. It's time for
the people show Hanging with the boys. You're looking live
at a warm Tostedos Championship Plaza outside Ford Center at
the Star in Frisco, Texas, where high school graduation is
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taking place this week inside the Star, multiple graduations per night. Kurt,
we'll talk about that here in a little bit that
holds a very special place in your heart this weekend
and your home. It is eighty four degrees, it feels
like ninety one. The high is eighty eight, the low
is sixty eight.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
It was gonna be sixty nine. Close. He is Shennon.
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Speaker 6 (01:44):
How we doing today?
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Good man?
Speaker 7 (01:47):
Good.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
I'm ready for the week to be over, though, are you? Yeah,
I'm just ready.
Speaker 6 (01:50):
I'm ready for a little weekend action, little holiday weekend.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Uh yeah, a little rest, relaxation.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Yeah, nothing, nothing on the agenda, just rest.
Speaker 7 (01:59):
But you, Kurt, Yeah, graduations not this week, and they're
coming up. It's coming up, so yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Let us know when it is because it's a big moment.
So it's a very momentous moment in your life.
Speaker 6 (02:13):
It's the last one.
Speaker 7 (02:15):
Youngest, finally graduating high school.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
You're gonna work on number six after this, No.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Crazy, you start all over again.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Work practice, practice makes perfect, praknice makes perfect.
Speaker 7 (02:30):
All right, No, it will be a celebration for my
wife and I.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
Yeah, every going around the house naked.
Speaker 7 (02:36):
No, but we got the last one out of high school.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Let's go.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
Congratulations. When is that? I got two weeks?
Speaker 7 (02:42):
Yeah? Well, his last school days tomorrow with graduations another
week or so.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Okay, all right, well good, good good, let's uh, since
we won't have a show before then.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I think that's something to say.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
I don't know what it is. I think I don't know.
I feel like I had something I'm supposed to say.
Right after that, I lost my complete train of thought
on what he.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Was thinking about, Kurt Neck and you just would like,
please might get out of my head, get clear, scramble
my brain all up right there, like Terry Bradshaw.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Yeah, naked.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Well, since we won't have a show before h Monday, uh,
Memorial Day, shout out to all the people who have
served and continue to serve. Great weekend to kick off
the summer. But don't forget what it's all about.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
So shout out to my uncle Stanley, my uncle Burley,
both served in the military.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
Uncle Burley, that's the hell of a name.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
He looks like a brilly but like so you you
think grizzled, right, Yeah, no, it's Burley like it. It's
very sleek, really very very sleek, very smooth. Okay, forty
one years on this earth, I've never heard Uncle Burley
yell one time?
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Really never.
Speaker 7 (03:57):
I had to get the name Burley, that's literally his name.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
It's notname. What branch of the military did they serve?
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Uncle Stanley was in the army. Uncle uh, Uncle Brody
was in the Marines.
Speaker 6 (04:13):
Yeah, so you've got it in your family.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
You got history of politicians, you know, public service, their
public service to the military. Do you ever want to
do any of that, like any kind of public service?
Speaker 4 (04:25):
I do do I did do a public service. What
do you do hanging with the boys? This is a
public service each and every week. I get to sit
here and talk to all of you and give you.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Serve the government in some kind of government capacity.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
I knew I couldn't do that. When my brother, my
oldest brother, was.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Was going to be mayor, and I was sitting in
one of the little town hall meetings and.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
They said on you know they sit on that what
was it called deos? What is it called that thing
that they.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Said, and you think, we know, go ahead, And I
watched them like just go at each other.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Yeah, and it got personal, and.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
I'm like and then after it was over, they were
like standing like feet from each other, like having a
casual conversation.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
And I'm like, oh, I couldn't do this. I'm like,
I have too much aggression to personal.
Speaker 7 (05:19):
A lot of people would say, all these football players
every game there banging heads.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yes, after her game, that's perfect, but you get it out.
I get it out. I get it you and you
insult me.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
I insult you, you get you break physical body.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Harm to me.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
I brief arm to you, and we're done, and we're done.
But you just can't say what you want to me.
And I hold it was like, yuck it up with
you afterwards? No, I never never you you wanted to
like join the militarything.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Like that, you know, I thought about I. I don't
know how close I came, but I really wanted to.
After nine to eleven, like I felt really motivated to
do something.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Patriot had that Pat Tillman look to you.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
Yeah, yeah, And I really wanted to do something.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
But I was like when it kind of got time
to like get in the car and go actually go.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
Do it, I was like, Okay, this is a commitment.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I'm not good at commitment less a life commitment.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
I'm too rationale for the like for the for the
armed services. Yeah, because like if you tell me, hey,
we're going to just send you over wait, hold on.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
You would have you would have the biggest problem with
them trying to mentally break you down, okay and make
you fall in line.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
But okay, So here's the thing. I know that I
would be one. I'm one of two things. I Am
going to be like Green Beret, like the highest level
of like all in, all in, yeah, or I'm out
like I'm in, I'm discharged, kicking me out because I
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was started asking questions like, wait, so what are you
gonna do? So wait, I have to go in first.
You mean to tell me this I E what's called
I E d's uh these bombs?
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I gotta go on first.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
No, that's not gonna happen, Like, well that's in order,
not today, not today. Yeah, yeah, or I'm telling you.
Or I would have been like you know what, because
I know I can psych my mind out to go
to that level, And I would have been.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
I would have been Chris Kyle.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
You'd have been the machine.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
I'd have been Chris Kyle.
Speaker 7 (07:25):
You'd have been running down special teams units and bringing
into linebackers.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
M'd have been Chris. I would have been all the
way in.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
Yeah, what about you? You ever think about doing all
of that stuff?
Speaker 7 (07:36):
Briefly. But yeah, sometimes I think because I you know,
you tell me what to do, I'll get it done,
you know, right, But it's kind of the same thing like, man.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
I don't you know, I'm just a commitment.
Speaker 7 (07:47):
Yeah, it's a commitment and going over that hill, Yeah,
I'm not sure i'd be ready for that.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Shout out to everybody that, yeah, the guys that could
do it, thank you.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Yeah, thank you for I got them good, especially if
you get like one hundred percent of the benefits when
you're done. Oh yeah, I've got I got a homegirl
who's like one hundred percent like disabled vet.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
I'm like, shout a nice house, Yeah, money down, tired.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
I have a buddy that's he was a he was
a major, so he gets that major money and he's
still still does uh active, he's not active, but he
does reserves. So he still goes like once every three
months and he goes and gets to jump out of
airplanes and do cool stuff.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
And he gets that.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
If there's any cute young ladies has one hundred percent disabled,
ill at me.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Yeah, they need the benefits. I need to be If
you're not coming with the benefits and I'm.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Good, maybe what you're give him your Twitter handle.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
At mister fourth law. There you go. We can change it, though,
we can change could be I canna be at disabled
vet one ndred percent to the handles negotiations, A, it's all,
it's all negotiable.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
All right, Well, let's get to some football before we
go to break since we did a good job of
wasting the first segment without Nate.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
By the way, we have no idea where Nate is.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Jesse sent the group text this morning about seven thirty
so on the road.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
He called me twice today. Yeah, called me twice today.
I didn't answer.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
My feelings are hurt and he didn't call me. Do
he call you, Kurt? No, man call me? Oh see,
ch okay, we see, we see what we see.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
What's always tell you if I don't have twenty minutes,
I don't answer.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
True.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Yeah, it's a it's a yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
You gotta have to drive.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
That's one of those.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
When I get in the car to go back home
from here, I'll call you back.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
That's literally the plan. When I get in the car
to go home, I'm like, it's a good time to
call me back.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Shout out to the stars went in last night in
dramatic fashion.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Oh came back to me.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
You just you just said that when you talk about
the fourth shout out to the to the Arlington Martin
young ladies who won the No Girls Flag football this
past Monday, we had it right here in the Ford Center.
Competitive game. It was De Soto versus Arlington Martin and
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there was a championship game and it was a competitive game.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
Breakout.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Not this time, not this time we had. We had good,
clean game. It was super competitive and Arlington Martin, man,
it was you know, that has been a joy. Like
I didn't know what to expect when Danny. When Danny
called and was like Danny McCrae, it was like, Bride
needs your help.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
And I'm just like okay. He's like, but I'm trying
to get the flight football thing. I just need I need,
I need, I need my guys. I'm like, you got me?
Speaker 6 (10:44):
Was the first question out of your mouth when he
said I need your help? How much?
Speaker 7 (10:47):
Nope? What'd you dope?
Speaker 6 (10:50):
So is that a special teams thing? It's a special
team I'll.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Tell you guys.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
You know who are good teammates and who aren't good teammates.
When Danny said he called me and said I need you.
I'm there.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
I didn't ask him nothing, nothing I did. He said okay.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
I said, okay, what however it goes, I got you
and he was like all right.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
And so initially we did.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
We started with the clinics, so I coached in clinics,
and then we did clinics all spring and summer, and
then the team started coming to formulate, and then there
was an opportunity that he thought I might have to coach.
And I didn't want to coach, but I would have
done it if it need be. But they got the
frighte people along, so I was I was a field manager.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Okay, field manager.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
What does a field manager do besides manage the field?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (11:36):
I had I had the Southern fields, so I had
Kincaid and Forrester. Whenever we played in one of those
and I come in, I set the field up. Okay,
sure everything is is where it's supposed to be. I'm
I'm a I'm abreast of the rule book, so make
sure for the refs.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Coaches back up.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Yeah, yeah, they called. I had a nice little shirt
to field manager on it.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Got his shirts.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
They heard I read alone that these girls flag football
games are more physical than then with the cowboys are
doing right now.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Let me tell you, I let me tell you it
got physical some games.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
It really did. But it was it was a treat
to watch those girls.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
When they came in during the clinics and when I
tell you, I was like, I said, Mac, I don't
know if this is gonna work because it was bad.
And to see them develop and learn, Oh my goodness,
it is. I mean, couldn't line up like they didn't.
They didn't know start from nothing. You know, girls are
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standing there like at the line of scream was like,
what we do now, I'm like, let's work on getting
the stance.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Let's work on you know, you can't move to the
ball moves. They're like, well, she take it too long
to say, hut say, I'm like okay.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
And then once they get a little organized and.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Start competing and now they're running routes like to watch
the championship game Monday night.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
It was. It was a true, true treat to see it.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
And shoutut to Danny who is the mastermind behind it all,
Whitney uh Faulkner and the rest of the guys.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Man. Yeah, but Danny. Danny. Yeah, good job, Danny, good job.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
Remember your roots, Danny.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Whenever you're coaching the Olympic flag football team where you
came from, give us.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
A shout out.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
Girls got scholarships too, really yeah, Texas, Texas, Westland, Westland, Wesleyan, Musleyan, Wesleyan. Uh,
they have a flag football Really, that's awesome. U T
Arlington is getting a flaging.
Speaker 7 (13:30):
A lot of colleges now are doing very cool.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
So we had three girls from really hit scholarships.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
That's awesome.
Speaker 7 (13:37):
We're trying to make it a UIO sanctioned.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
That'd be awesome.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
All right, Well we successfully did it killed the first segment,
but we do. There is actually football right on the
other side of that wall going on right now that
I wasn't even aware that was happening today until I
walk in the building. In let's talk about who's there,
who's not, is it important, and whatever else we can
get into.
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Just let you know. I will ask. There you go, Kurt,
thanks for thanks. Every time I touched this mic it
cuts out. I hope it doesn't do that. We're touching it. Okay,
that's what she said.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Anyway, a miss Galicia shout out.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
I saw her in the hall the other day.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
She just looked at me and started laughing.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
She did what show do you think she was laughing about?
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (17:45):
I didn't Probably probably this one like, we got an
open sea. She wants to come down. We always got open.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Sea for her, Glicia, you can always come down if
you want to, if you want to sit in with
the boys.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
He's like, your file is so thick, thicker than rowdies
used to be. When you know what we should do, Chris,
that would be fun. Let's get the old rallity on
the show to talk about old stories.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Why did you park at I would why did you
park the van there? First question?
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Yeah, I mean I wonder if he would do that.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
I should text him, text him right now, see if
you ever reply.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Yeah, he's probably fishing.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
Of course he is. That's all he does. Is he
fishes that in his other gig, which I don't. You
probably probably don't.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
He probably doesn't want that out there what his gig
is now, I'll tell you on the break.
Speaker 6 (18:32):
I'm sure y'all know. Uh, okay, football, scripple football. Here
we go.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
They're out there practicing. Who's out there and who's not
that that should be? Is Mike out there practice?
Speaker 7 (18:47):
Probably not. He's doing a hold in like Zach Martin
did a.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
Couple of years, which means you're here in the building.
Speaker 7 (18:53):
You're here in the building, but you're not necessarily.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Which from a player's standpoint, is smart because you don't
want to get injured.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
You you but you want to be around the guys.
He's you know.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
I think one of the things we've always talked about
is is Micah a leader?
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Right?
Speaker 6 (19:07):
He wants to be a leader?
Speaker 4 (19:08):
He said it.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
He he talks sometimes like a leader. Sometimes his actions
aren't leadership quality. Is this a step in that direction
for taking over for a tank or whoever in that
locker room is going to be the defensive leader?
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Is this is this a leadership thing?
Speaker 6 (19:25):
Or is this a like what?
Speaker 7 (19:27):
What?
Speaker 4 (19:27):
What? Is this a good thing for Micah? It's a thing.
It's not good.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
It's not bad the from a player's perspective, and I
mean his teammates. You hope, but you don't hope that
one day you're in this situation.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
You hope explain that.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
You hope that one day your contract is such a
big contract that you don't want to that they don't
want to sign it right away, that they got tea
and go through the parameters and the details some numbers,
find where this money gonna come from? You you want
you you hope that that is you one day.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
But you also hope that it's.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Not you because you get it done and now that
you're back on the field doing what you love to do.
So it's it's it's one of those things where as
a player, you you you mind your own pockets and
you mind your own business and you go about doing
the work that you're supposed to do. And when Michaeh
gets here, he gets here, but you understand that he
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gotta get his money. Yeah, and if it now, if
it wasn't contract related, if it was just well, I'd
rather do it in Miami, or I'd rather do it
in California, or I'd rather do it in Houston or
you know, train wherever in New York City or whatever
that's different. That's a choice like that. That's a choice
that you don't have to make.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
She's done that in the past.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
What she's done that in the past, And that's a
part of why some of that leadership stuff have come
down on his head in a negative way.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
This I championed this pay me.
Speaker 7 (21:04):
It's good, it's good for Micah, but is it good
for the team and in the culture and all that
they're trying to do.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Does it help him develop does it help you bond
just being around?
Speaker 5 (21:14):
And if he's here though, like he is here, right,
he's in the building. You know, he's doing stuff in
the locker room. I'm sure they talked about the ping
pong tables in the locker room. I'm sure MICA's competitive.
He's on the ping pong table, and he's in the
group chat and he's in the lunch room and he's
sitting in some meetings and so all that. Like when
he's here, he's here, he's just not on the field here,
So the camaraderie is being built. But if we're being
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completely honest, we don't care about that.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
We don't. That's them thing we want to know.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Is it gonna work on I should say Thursdays now,
and I was gonna say Sunday, but they play all
the day and Thursday night games. Now, is it gonna
work on game day? That's what That's all we care about,
whether you're whether you're bonding or kumba yai, and it's
coming together and y'all have the culture that you want.
I do think culture is important. I think it's a
(22:12):
component of it. But winning, winning is what we look for.
From Micah dak CD, d ron Bland, you name the name.
If they're in a uniform. That's the part that we
care about. Great, you're playing ping pong. I think there
are some good that come out of ping pong. It's
(22:33):
a competitive it gets competitive, it keeps you here. Just
another forty five minutes to learn that guy across from you,
to have that moment across from you, and in those moments,
anything can happen. Anything can happen in the sense of
a ping pong game instead of me just getting my
stuff out of practice and bouncing and I know that
we're not having any interaction. That means there is a
(22:54):
zero chance that anything can develop there. A ping pong
game now means it starts off at ping pong and
the next thing, you know, you're giving your testimony and
now we're now we're sharing something spiritually, or you're giving
an idea or thought or where you come from or
whatever it is. And now there's a way of interacting
because of around.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
The ping pong table. Yeah, so I get that part.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
But great, I know that you like this or I
know that you do that.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
That's great for y'all.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
Is that gonna get me three extra sacks for us.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
Yeah, what we're looking for is does whatever y'all doing
over there.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
Translate to equate to us winning games?
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Winning games?
Speaker 7 (23:40):
Yeah, I think that's what we're gonna see. With all
this talk about culture and the ping pong table and
the basketball hoop and the dinners and everything, it all
sounds really good, but man, if they don't, if they're
not winning, we're all gonna look back and say, man,
they were spending too much time playing ping pong table.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
What are you doing?
Speaker 5 (23:58):
And it's not exclusive to the Dallas cow Boys, right,
It's it's it's exclusive to just about any team sport,
to the Cincinnati Bengals, to the Dallas Stars, to the
Texas Rangers, to the FC.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
You know, by the team, it's it's it's it's It's.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Not a thing where culture is trying to be built
justin Cowboy Nation. It's trying to be building every thirty
other two other teams in the league.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
But you know what I like about all these things,
and I wish I wish Nate was here today to
talk about this.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
It's exactly what you said.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
It's getting guys to hang out just a little bit longer,
especially in this day and age where everybody's quick too,
I think will quick to get out of here and
go unplug, or go get on social media, or go
game or do whatever. That extra fifteen to twenty minutes
turns into what you said. And you do that multiple
(24:49):
times over the course of the off season and even
during the season that on that on game day, you're
gonna play a little bit harder for that guy that.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
You wonder why Danny can call me and whatever's on
the other side of the phone, I'm there because y'all
spent that time, the time together, we were in the
fox hole together. I knew that running down there. He
had my back, he knew that running down I have
a picture.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
I want to say it was Thanksgiving. We played the Saints.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
What was the Roy william Roy Williams fumble the slant
he's going to the house. I think it was Thanksgiving,
played the Saints, and I have a picture in my
home as I'm making Roggie Bush fumble on a punt
return and you know who's right over it, Like who's
right behind me? Danny McCrae, Like literally like I'm you
see me swiping down, punching the ball out and Danny's
(25:38):
literally right there in the frame. That's why he can
call me. That's why I know what I'm like. Oh,
he looks over me and he goes, hey, Jay, Holly,
you take you go this time.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
I don't. I don't want to do it, but I
got you. It's that happens in there, right, And.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
You don't do that if you don't know that.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
I personally right and that And that's what Nate always
talks about, is they did in the nineties.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
They did stuff together.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
They stayed at the facility, they played dominoes, they played cards,
and I think I'm here in the White House back
but I'm interested to see because you're right, Kurt, like,
it's it sounds great in theory, but unless it translates
on game day, like.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
What are we doing?
Speaker 7 (26:23):
Yeah, so it's gonna be questioned.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
And this is this is I feel like this is
the biggest coaching personality swing by just the things that
are happening and the interactions and the few things that
we've seen between the time of Schottenheimer getting hired until now,
Like it's a big, huge philosophy change. So it'll be
(26:47):
interested to see if it if it translates on game day,
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Speaker 3 (29:52):
The folks on the other side of the building listen
to the show?
Speaker 6 (29:58):
Because and I wish Nate was. And this is a
terrible show for Nate to.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Miss because it looks like Booker is working immediately with
the starters and getting reps. And that's something I know
Nate has been happened standing on the table. If you
draft a guy in the first round, let him play right.
You've you've jumped in on that too. Jesse Goidon was
(30:22):
taking second team.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
Reps at the beginning last year.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Is this a is this that Booker is that much
better of a talent or is this a change in
philosophy in your opinion, Jesse to wear you drafted him
in the first round, give him all the reps, get
him through training camp, and then and then make your decision.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
I think it's a change of philosophy. Gen Giton was
a project to start with. I think Booker is a
is a short shot. And the guy that's you know,
nothing against Brock. You know Abby, we weize all you want,
(31:01):
my boy, have one go at it, get a handful,
but this is superior talent. There was a reason you
were drafted where you were drafted. There was a reason
why he was drafted where he was drafted.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Talent ain't the same. And so.
Speaker 7 (31:17):
Yeah, they can see that. Well they're not going to
mess around.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
With Let's get him in there, like time is of
the essence. Let's get him in here.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Let's know what the hell we got so that we
I don't want to start having to make os adjustments
in August. Let's make the adjustments now. If we look
up and we go, oh, oh, we wanted to get
a veteran in here, because this kid's not it's not
it's not computing and whether that be because you already
(31:48):
know whatever techniques you learned at Bama are gonna be
different here. Not saying everything, but every coach has their
different styles. You know what I prefer hands to be in.
I prefer for you to punch. Now, I prefer.
Speaker 7 (32:04):
It right Booker because and he's switching sides from right guard,
I mean from left guard to right guard. So I
guess I'm saying there's stuff to learn.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
There's not to learn, and you want to just make
sure that in that learning process that we get every
opportunity to properly evaluate the talent. And now after this
ota is done, guess what, I sit Booker out and
I said, man.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Let's let's let's let's watch some of these cutups.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Okay here you're going up against here that you know, Hey,
let's let's get that Kickilate got a little bit more. Now,
when you know, you get some pads on. We had
a little bit more, and we just continue to break
this thing down. But you're allowed to see the consistent
process of a player, and I think that that will
allow you to get the training camp and when the
(32:51):
pads come on and you go get a little bit
of competition. You won't have as many questions, you won't
have as many unknown questions about the player. You'll be
able to go in and say all right, because I'm
sure they still do the same thing and correct me
if I'm wrong, Chris. But normally when you leave after
mini camps and you go away, they send you a letter,
(33:14):
they tell you what can't reporting time. They may do
an email. Now they may not do the paper letter anymore,
but you have, you know, the things that you're supposed
to weigh in at and that kind of stuff and
all the traveling information. But your coach also sends you
a little note and say, hey, continue to work on A,
B and C, you know, because we saw that over
(33:35):
time and now we're heading in the training camp and
we want to make sure that you're sharp in those things.
So wherever you're going, make sure that you're working on
these specific things that we think you need to improve
on or can improve on to help your game, to
help us when we get this thing really rocking and rolling.
Speaker 7 (33:49):
So we've talked about Micah being here in some form
and fashion. We've talked about Booker is now being here
and he's in there. What do you think about Treyvon
Diggs doing his rehab away from the facility. He is
not at the Star now and this is the same
thing he did last year. And I don't think people
are real happy about that. But is it kind of
(34:12):
a deal, Like players are like, yeah, he can do
what he do orre they like he should be here again.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
Another situation where players don't care. Really, they don't care
where he works out at. But the hope is that
he's working. Yeah, that's the hope. I don't say that, Jesse,
I'm getting better at that, why are you?
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Yeah, Yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say that.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
But let's just say that there are maybe people in
this building that are happy days probably somewhere else working
out because of the things in the past, that he
is not one of the best workers when it comes
to rehab, that he doesn't always show up, that he
doesn't always put in the best effort, and it becomes
more of a headache than than to help to rehab
him and get him back on the field.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
But as a player, nah, well, we get upset. Is
if you come back and now you're not ready, that's
when we get upset.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
That's when we like, damn, bro well, you're just in
Miami and Miami in or were you actually in there working?
Because we look at we we we're looking for you
to be ready to go when it's time for us
to go, because having another corner out there where we're
short at that position will help our defense out, will
help our team out. But if you down there and
(35:27):
you just being you, you know what I'm saying, You
down there slinking that thing and ain't really putting in
the work, Well, now you hurt us when you could
have been in Dallas.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
You could have came on back to Dallas.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
Worked out at the Star and at least been doing
the right thing. But now I'm not saying that he's
doing that. I'm just saying that's that's when we beginning
to care. That's when that's when you hear the frustrations
come from players and the leaders of the team. Is
when somebody's as away doing rehab and they come back
and all of a sudden they're likely wouldn't even really rehabit.
(36:00):
I know that we get the videos and we got
the documentary stuff coming out, but that don't I mean,
I remember I remember Gronk. I mean this a couple
of years ago when Gronk was playing, Gronk went in
the backyard and he was sending these videos to Coach Belichick,
like of showing him like, Eh, I'm home and I'm
working out. Gronk later admitted that he went in the
(36:21):
backyard and he brought three or four different shirts, and
he said he just ran a couple of drills in
one shirt, took off, put another shirt. He could have
multiple days of it because he was like, man, I'm
not working out every day, but I'll just keep saying
I'll keep making these multiple different shirt videos, sending them in.
He was like, I'll dress it up and we'll put
water on my head, got out here.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
With the sweating.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
He's like, I got three different shirts on, and I
was sending videos, you know, periodically to Coach Belichick to
let him know that I'm out head working When it
was all just a skit that he did in fifteen
twenty minutes.
Speaker 6 (36:54):
I think that was during COVID.
Speaker 12 (36:56):
They were, yeah, they weren't in the building, so they
have to send in their workouts of the team, and
he would do them all on one day, different outfits.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Chris, you would know this hell. Jesse you and Kirk
might know this. Dax seems like he's a full go
of practice. Pickens is out there. What do we know
what number he's wearing.
Speaker 6 (37:16):
For now? Right, I don't know if that's in stone
is gonna stick?
Speaker 7 (37:20):
He said, it's not decided, not decided yet.
Speaker 6 (37:22):
They have to give him a number though, Right, so
he had thirteen.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Somebody else on the team's got thirteen. But there's also
multiple numbers because you got so many guys, right.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
A couple of sevens out there too, right, Yeah, so.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
We don't know. There's no final official word on what now.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Marquis Bell conversation. Nothing to start to twenty five.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
K Now, if you feel you're about to get cut,
take it down a little bit.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
You'll you get that, get that out?
Speaker 5 (37:45):
Yeah, yeah, you got like denzelm But Denzel said, I'm
from around the way. I'm leaving here with something. You
gotta leave here with something. Mark, He's all right. If
you feel like, you know, if you feel like will
McLay and company replace you.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Take take ten, take that discount, Take ten and a
steak dinner.
Speaker 5 (38:05):
Yeah, take ten, Take a take a mile vacation or
whatever you can get your hands on. Don't leave here
with be like Denzel, I'm leaving here with something from
around the way.
Speaker 6 (38:13):
My boy, Chris, this will affect you a little bit.
How do you feel about the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Uh being on the NFC East version of Hard Knocks.
I'm pretty sure Coach Schottenheimer's probably like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 6 (38:27):
Like, like, you're gonna have.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Cameras in every single room in this place my first
year and it's all gonna be database somewhere when I'm trying.
Speaker 7 (38:38):
To no distractions.
Speaker 6 (38:40):
Yeah, none at all.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
You know, they'll have a whole crew out of training
camp and all that horse aren't up right?
Speaker 6 (38:47):
How do you feel about it?
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Crew?
Speaker 6 (38:48):
Who?
Speaker 12 (38:48):
My knowledge, the way that NFL films works that is
they have a single crew that goes that will be
at the facility, meaning like a camera guy on a
guy and a producer.
Speaker 6 (39:01):
Three people.
Speaker 12 (39:03):
I mean, they'll do the they'll do the team meeting
room and stuff like that.
Speaker 6 (39:06):
They'll put the you know, robotics in there.
Speaker 12 (39:08):
But I think it's a very minimal crew because it's
through four teams, so they.
Speaker 6 (39:14):
Don't have forty people on the night. Like, no, it's
not training huge. You know, when we did a couple
of years back. Remember it was all or nothing, was right,
all or nothing? It was during the season.
Speaker 12 (39:24):
Yes, that crew is basically the same crew that does
the Hard Knocks, gotcha.
Speaker 6 (39:29):
So it won't be too invasive. It won't be as
invasive as you think it would be.
Speaker 5 (39:33):
Is there's something that you want to see during this
Hard Knocks for the Cowboys, me, all of us, everybody.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
I liked.
Speaker 6 (39:43):
I like the program. I like the behind the scenes access.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
I like the program. I love it. No, nothing I
like that. I like those.
Speaker 6 (39:53):
You know what I want to see? I want to
see who George who Pickens really is.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
You know, I was just thinking because you know, he said, you.
Speaker 6 (40:02):
Know, what have I really done?
Speaker 3 (40:03):
You see me get pissed off on game day, which
you know he kind of gets a bad rap.
Speaker 6 (40:08):
Right, It's been a long time since.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
We've had a wide receiver with some attitude since deads Right,
We've gotten really spoiled around here because CD can be
a little bit of a diva, but he's not a
you know, he's not your wild, boisterous, loud in your face,
slinging his helmet got you know, and you mean, I
mean we No, Amara is just kind of like, you know,
throw me the ball. I'm just gonna sit over here,
(40:32):
like I ain't getting your face, like I'm just gonna
sit down, you know. And you know, even your backup
got like Tolbert, you know, Cedric Wilson, you had a
really quiet wide receiver room. And I'm not mad about
you know, I wasn't here the day that, you know,
the week that he got signed, and I missed out
on the whole conversation. But I'm not mad about having
somebody that's got that you have to sometimes calm down
(40:53):
on the sideline because he wants to be involved so much,
right So I'm but I'm interested to learn about him
as a person, because you know, you haven't got to
see him other than how the media portrays him and
what gets put out there, like and sometimes your perception is.
Speaker 6 (41:07):
Both you know this both ways.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
You're a darling in the media and in that locker
room you're.
Speaker 6 (41:12):
Just you're a jerk and you're not a good teammate.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
And sometimes it's the opposite. You look like you're a
terrible teammate and you would you would do anything for
that guy.
Speaker 6 (41:22):
So I'm really interested about that.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
I feel that way about Shaddy like I want to see.
I want I want to see because right now, like
he is, I said, I think, I don't know where
I said it. I know, I said up, I don't
know what show I said it on. But he is
like many, so many jobs, so many jobs.
Speaker 6 (41:42):
Have you ever had multiple girlfriends?
Speaker 4 (41:46):
Nope?
Speaker 6 (41:47):
Okay, really that's just wondering.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
That was like you have a hard time keep you
have a hard time keeping your shows straight?
Speaker 6 (41:53):
What you say where of? Like, there's no way he's
ever juggled more than one relationship.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
Who will want to?
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Some people do that at so people live home, different lives.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
Just sorry, one woman is enough, he said it.
Speaker 6 (42:07):
He said it that one woman.
Speaker 5 (42:09):
That's a headache enough sheep. But right now, like Shoddy
is on a like Barry Bond, Sammy Sosa, Mark McGuire
like home Run.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
Everything he does, he's sitting on the trajectories like straight
up everything, and all we all we have to go
off right now is when he talks. That's it.
Speaker 5 (42:31):
That's all we have to go off of. There's nothing,
there's no data that we can go off of as
a head coach. So all we have is him speaking
him out at the events, him setting the culture him
in press conferences him whatever it is, it's all we have,
and every time he speaks he's been home run. I
(42:53):
want to see what happens when when the grease is hot.
I want to see him when the grease is hot.
I want to see. I want to see that side.
I want to see when there's a two game losing streak,
if they're a two game losing streak, I want to
see when something nothing go right?
Speaker 6 (43:06):
Does he yell? Does he throw the headset down?
Speaker 5 (43:08):
How do they respond to him? How do he respond
to them? How does he respond if GP goes off?
How does he respond if.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
If if CD does his thing and he goes and
stands eighty yards away from his teammates, How does he
react with Micah? How does he? You know? I want
to see. I want to see that part because as
of right now, from the from the surface.
Speaker 6 (43:30):
Of its price on national TV, from.
Speaker 5 (43:33):
The search of it all, I mean, he is he
has done a great job being a media darling and
saying absolutely all the right things.
Speaker 6 (43:42):
It's going to be a fun year one way or
the other.
Speaker 7 (43:44):
It is always is interesting, always.
Speaker 6 (43:46):
Interesting around here.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
But this this lot of storylines this year hard knocks
is going to have their hands full trying to keep
it even across the four teams when there's going to
be so much drama going on here.
Speaker 6 (44:02):
Dude, if you think about it, like dan Quinn's.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
Story, great story, and and and a lot like Shody,
like a total team guy, total players coach and really
personable and really cares about his players.
Speaker 6 (44:15):
And then here and then you got Sirianni, the guy
that you want to hate, but everything he.
Speaker 7 (44:18):
Does, like all those personalities up there, yeah.
Speaker 6 (44:22):
Like it's it.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
And then the Giants. Everybody's kind of like who cares?
Speaker 5 (44:25):
But giants probably like, don't show what's again last time
we did this. They're still making memes about this whole thing.
My son's telling me that you ever get this Jaydan Daniels, Yeah,
my son is telling me to get Jaden Daniels and
Saquon and I'm just like, no, we're gonna We're gonna
pay Daniel jump. Like it's just the Giants probably like
please we he suffered enough. We've suffered enough.
Speaker 4 (44:49):
But you know you're gonna have big down on there
from philadel you know.
Speaker 6 (44:52):
Oh yeah, so well, fellas enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
Maybe one day we'll get the whole crew back together
against before training camp. Chris, thanks for keeping us on
the air. Josh, thanks for keeping him company. We will
be back next Thursday. Enjoy your Memorial Day weekend. Don't
forget what it's about.
Speaker 6 (45:09):
Next week we'll be back.
Speaker 4 (45:11):
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