December 22, 2025 • 45 mins
It’s not coaches make players, right? So would a different defensive coordinator really produced different results? Perhaps, but probably not in a big way. Plus, could Tyler Smith moving to left tackle become permanent? Let’s hope not. He’s a Pro Bowl guard, after all. And has this team struggled to make in-game adjustments on offense as well? Where are the counterpunches?
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to all their stuff.
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Man, glad you didn't say any names.
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Today we're representing Kylie. Uh, today's her birthday. So, so
J Dubb and Kyle Man, Happy birthday to Kylie. Your thoughts,
our thoughts and prayers are with you on this day
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Man.
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So love your dudes. Man Jack you you know you
my dude. J Dubb, you know you, my guy man,
and he loves you. He loves everybody. Everybody loves super
like everybody overly loves date. So, but but happy birthday.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Why you going love to do that.
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See see, y'all got the most misperception of me. I
can pronounce things I can. I do know a lot
more sometime than I do. Come on, man, I love
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If everybody put up with the old guy except Kurt,
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Name that name again that we're shouting out.
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Kylie, Kylie, Kylie, Happy birthday, Kylie.
Speaker 6 (03:30):
Thoughts with you guys in the family. That's that's how,
that's the guys we had to dinner with dinner with right.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Why did you not wear a tight shirt today?
Speaker 5 (03:37):
So, Jesse, that's semi tight, that's kind of tight.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
He had more of this one in a while, and
the weather was nice. I was like, it's kind of
feels like spring out side. So we got a tour
going by. Hey man, dude, it's good to see that
stare me down. Bro.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Even after the letdown yesterday.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
The fans are still wearing their cowboys gear on the tour.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
They haven't burned it.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Nice smile. That's my money can buy right there, lady,
Well fellas.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
You're still trying to stare me down. Man, I should
I do it in younger days, I have heard it said,
but now big that not big, No, not hurt him?
Speaker 6 (04:17):
Now them hands telling y'all Nate's got the strongest hands
in the world.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Yeah, well that's it. It's over. What's that? Brother?
Speaker 6 (04:30):
We got what two more weeks of this weeks?
Speaker 4 (04:34):
It ain't over?
Speaker 7 (04:35):
Man?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
What ain't overtime say? It's over? Is it over? But over? Postseason? Hopes?
Oh man?
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Next to the name the E.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Yes, the E show, the one you were talking about,
the E.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
Disappointed saw it coming coming? I think, Yeah, did you
think it would be this weekend?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Jesse did?
Speaker 6 (05:00):
And Jesse thought they were going to create a little
drama toward the end of the season.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
I did.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
I thought that shot he was gonna go kind of
all out.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Just how did you feel about the.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
First off the overall game plan because he went a
little aggressive in the beginning right and then? And then
I got a couple of questions about the defense. One
did did ebra Flus try some different things?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
And is this is this? Is this? Like, Hey, I'm
going to show y'all what y'all been asking for.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
Look, this is what I've been dealt this year, and.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
It ain't on me fellas. It ain't on me.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
Look, no matter what look we give them, they go
right down the field.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Like this year defensively has been. It's been an it's
been an absolute as show. It really has. And a
part of it, A part of it is Matt Ebraflus,
A part of it is the talent that Matt Eberflus
had coach. A lot of it, blame, blame, shits fall
(06:04):
on the shoulders of the person who put it all together,
from the higher end to the players. Okay, that that
a lot of it needs to be sheltered there as well.
But you know, this is just not a defensively They're
just not good as a unit. And I don't know
if I don't, I don't know if another defensive coordinator
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would have taken this level of talent and made any difference.
I also don't know that if this defensive coordinator with
another level of players would have made any difference. I
do like to believe, because I know that this is
a talent based league, that the more talent you have,
the better talent you have, and the healthier talent you have,
(06:47):
to use a Nate word by osmosis, you will be better.
This is what this was. This was a This was
a s show from start to finish. Defensively and while
we had a little bit of an intermission in it
when Quinn Williams came along, Quinn didn't help that much.
Go back, look at the numbers. Quinn didn't help that much.
(07:08):
They went from forty fifth worse to forty second worst. No,
they went from thirty first, thirty first, thirty second to
twenty eight twenty nine.
Speaker 7 (07:16):
Make sure you wonder how they won those three games.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
In the room, you know, yeah, this we can, we can,
we can, we can point fingers and and and blame
all we want. Uh, there are there are a contingency
of fans who just don't like Maddeperflus. That's and the
words of Nate Newton fan, how you want a fan
(07:38):
and fan it up. And if you don't like him,
that's fine. And he's had his fair share of things
that he didn't do right, but he showed you in
this game. You want them more blitzing, You wanted more
one on one coverage, Cool, let's do it. A guy
who has been sacked eleven times in the last two games,
you didn't get to him once.
Speaker 7 (07:56):
How does that even happen.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
You didn't get to him once, not even close.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
You didn't get too once they had their fifth offensive line,
backup offensive lineman.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
You didn't get to the backup, to the backup, to
the backup to the backup.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Right.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Yeah, you didn't get to him once.
Speaker 7 (08:12):
Have a sack in the last two games. They only
have one in the last three.
Speaker 6 (08:15):
So I think that's the most frustrating part to me
as a fan is you don't know. Usually you can
pinpoint something, Okay, we got to get better here, or
this guy's scheme doesn't fit this.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
Diggs wanted to play man, all right, Diggs, go play
man right, Okay, cool quick. Quinn Johnson run right by.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
And he actually caught the ball yesterday. Well, I was
so shy that white catch was nice.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
But I said, we are Jesse, I said, I said,
we are truly even get right team.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
This was a can't catch boys. Man.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Listen this, Quentin Johnson, go look it up, Kurt. He
doesn't have one hundred yard game all season until Sunday.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
Sunday and didn't even try to catch that touchdown with
two I got this.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
They told us Rubble was going to be this. He
ain't playing well Diggs wanted to go man, that didn't
work well.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
But I think that's the frustrating part is the whole season,
not just this game, the whole season. You don't know,
you have more questions now going into the draft than
you did at the.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Beginning of the year. Yeah, right, Like it's like what's
chicken or the egg? Right? What's broken?
Speaker 6 (09:29):
The scheme, the coaching, the personnel, the talent.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Like all the above, Like what do you do? What
do you do? What do you do these last two weeks?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
So now that you know this, Shannon, that you have
no answers to these questions, I'm going to ask you
when you should have some feel for because it's going
to be asked a thousand times. Draft shows are going
to be the most rate, number one rated thing around here.
So what are you draft than Shannon? And I have
you ever't? Haven't thought that?
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Yes, it's a great answer.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
You can pick any position to me in the first
the first two picks anywhere, but to me but quarterback.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yes, yes, okay, all right, how about you?
Speaker 6 (10:17):
Obviously I'd like to go defensive side of the ball
or depending on which we got to, We're going to
dedicate the whole second segment to the offensive line because
that little change they did before the game, so many
questions about is that is that planning for next year?
Is that planning to get rid of the whole steals money?
Speaker 4 (10:34):
What did what was that whole thing about? Or was
it just injury? Go ahead, Kurt, what are you going?
What you want? Draw?
Speaker 7 (10:41):
I think the focus has to be on the defense probably.
I mean, look at your defensive end. They spend so
much capital on the defensive tackles. They have three twenty
million dollar tackles, and I have anybody on the ends
that can get to the quarterback. And now of that
group they have on the roster, who's back next year?
Is a roku?
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Who else?
Speaker 4 (11:02):
That's it? Yep?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
A one year or two year contract? One year he gone?
You know, all you gotta do is show up on
the Star a couple of times. Oh we're gonna get him,
but we ain't gonna pay. And we ain't gonna pay.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
He leaves your team in sacks.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Yeah, how shocked were you? I was?
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Now, mind you he has five and a half. He
had the first he got three of those with like
the first couple of times in the beginning of the season.
So when everybody was like, see, we don't need the
goddess in a Green Bay. We don't need him.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
We got James Green even people need Green and Green
Bay needed. Yeah, how shocked were you? I was floored.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
I would have almost bet anything that tray Von was
not going to play another.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Down for the Cowboys. Were you a choice? Was that
just injury? Like we gotta put him out there.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
You didn't have bland and you didn't have seatbelt. Yeah,
seatbelt didn't play.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
So that was just a matter of attrition.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
It was like I think so to feel the teacher
leave those kids.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
You know, you know the only problem we have here,
It ain't it ain't the only problem.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
It's a major problem. Is do a kid want to play?
Speaker 8 (12:16):
That?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
You know, people asking me to say one go one
way or another on trayline, I'm not. I mean, I'm
quite sure you feel the same. If the kid don't want.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
To play, he could be a handy man.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yeah, I mean, you just don't want to play.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
What are you gonna do?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
You can't make somebody play who just don't want to play.
And I didn't get the handy man part, but you know,
you can want to explain that.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
Oh oh no, Trayvon did he explained the mystery.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Okay, the handy man he came out, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Yeah he was. He was trying to be a handyman.
So I guess if he doesn't want to play football
on what you want to grab on? But anyway, yeah,
if you don't want to play football, then maybe maybe
handyman might be in.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
I get it now, Yeah I missed. All right, let's
take our first when we come back.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
I have so many questions about this move on the
offensive line, and we have, luckily at our disposal.
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Jesse said no to that move when we come back. Oh,
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to ask this question. Date, What the hell is going
on with the offensive line?
Speaker 4 (15:45):
What are they doing? What was up with the move
Tyler Smith moving from guard to tackle? Do you approve
of it?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Thomas was hurt, guiding wasn't healthy, and agents didn't want
to take no more chance would numbers seventy five because
he was putting the spind top last week. They did
not want to go through that this year, and you
know you put it Ringer in the Washington. Don't get
you in the Washington.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Get you to.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Side cycle, like we finna do this, not because they
wanted to. Now Milton was going out there. Now, I
ain't got to get your milk. But if he was
going out there seventy five, okay, But you were sending
your big dog out there. So they like, our left
guard is our best offensive lineman who happens to be
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able to play left tackle above average, and they put
him out there.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
And put say TJ.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Bass, it's your chance to show us where you can
be a valuable back up. Come on at this left guard,
and let's do this.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
So you don't think it was a precursor to them.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Poss Since it work him and work one time, let's
try it again next week and see if it works.
Don't worry about the guide. Don't worry about it. And
they we got the left tackle.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
Yeah he's gonna play in the rest of the season.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Yeah, they're gonna play the reside.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
They're like, man, I think they are sending little messages.
You know, Yeah, we may get even flutes, but we're.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Gonna get a whole lot of y'all with him.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah, Jesse, you know, I know, and we all been
in this camp too long. This is a pivotable year
for everybody. You went seven and whatever, six and whatever
last year. Now we're goinna go seven and whatever, maybe
whatever this year. The fans want to see more and
(17:37):
they you e'tvenna talk like one dude's man, Jerry talked
me off the ledge every year. I don't think it's
Jones and talk to this dude this year coming up
off the ledge. You you're gonna have to do some
things a little bit different, a whole lot different. And
if you do it the same way, I promise you
firing this guy, firing that guy, changing this, changing that,
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and you can't show a concrete found of how you
go on this team, it's gonna be a lot of
disappointed people. It's gonna be a lot of disappointed why
you didn't want that move.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
Yeah, if you're telling me that, Tyler Smith, If this
is just, hey, man, we just need to get into
the season right. And if it's just because hey, we're
playing Dak the next two games and we just need
to get to the end of the season, I'm fine
with it. But if This is a legit situation where
you're saying that Tyler Smith could potentially be your left tackle.
(18:29):
I hate it.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
One.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
He spent the last four or five years honing, perfecting,
working his craftsmanship as a left guard. And I'm not
gonna sit here one bit and tell you how to
play the position right, because you understand it more than
any of us at this table. But there are things
that you learn, Like when you work as a guard,
you're more working in the phone booth. It's a fight,
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it's a hand to hand combat. I get to do
things to you, maul you, grab you, russell with you,
be physical with you in these trenches. As a guard,
I can I can you know, get you do. Knock
you down here, get up to the next level when
you kick out to that tackle.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
There's a whole lot.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Of space out there you gotta dance with.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Now.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
There's a whole lot of stuff that you gotta deal
with out there that you don't have to deal with
when you're inside. That guy on it, that guy on inside,
he he damned their nose and nose with you. It
ain't too much. He don't got too much room to
work around you. When you get outside them Jogglen, get
them wide nines and you know that joker coming from
seven yards out and now you just gotta shit back there.
(19:34):
And he now he doing all this and you gotta
be able to It's the chop, it's the dipper rip,
it's the Gohot mooth, it's the rip, spin back. All
that's coming coming your way. Now it's a lot different,
and he hasn't worked on doing that. Now. Credit to
Tyler Smith for them having enough confidence in him and saying,
this dude is good enough athlete that in a pinch
(19:56):
we can kick him outside. But when I'm I'm a
firm believer of this, when they get film and tape
on him and opponents are coming down the pike and
they know that's where they have to go against, defenders
start looking at him and saying, oh, I could pick
him apart. Now I could?
Speaker 2 (20:14):
I can?
Speaker 5 (20:14):
I know how to do this, this, this, and this
and this against him. Now, Will Tyler Smith wins some sure?
I mean I think he's that good of an athlete
that he'll win some of those. But I think you
do you do a disservice to your offensive line because
you if we talk to any quarterback a quarterback will
tell you I can deal with the outside pressure. Go
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watch film this year. That prescott was David Blaine, who
deeded the way that he was making magician type moves
in that pocket with his ability with that rush coming around,
I can step up, I can step to the side.
Just about every single quarterback will always tell you, I
don't want the pressure coming down the middle. I don't
want that interior pressure where I can't step up into
(20:59):
a throw because if I can't step up, then I
can't move left or right right. And now most quarterbacks
when they go to throw you here start talking about
he gets to that back foot, plants his back foot,
and I want to be able to drive the ball.
I mean step up into my throw, drive the ball
down the field. If that interior is consistent, consistently being
uh disrupted, and I'm getting pressure in that area, I
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don't like it. My balls are sailing now, they're going high,
they're flailing around. I'm inaccurate, interceptions, interceptions are happening. So
and then on top of that, you you you kind
of almost tear down because I get it. Tyler Smith
may be better at left tackle than Guidon or Thomas
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doesn't mean he'll be great at left tackle. This might
be better than the guy won't be a Pro Bowl there, right,
you're you're now, you're now disrupting a legacy of a
guy who's been All Pro four or five consecutive years, are,
if not the best, one of the best. He ain't
dropping past three left guards in the whole league. We're
(22:08):
talking about this is a trajectory. Now he continues this
for the next seven eight years and he got none
Pro Bowls and seven All Pros. We're talking about Ring
of Honor stuff, We're talking about potential Hall of Fame stuff.
We're talking about setting a legacy of this guy playing
that position as one of the best to ever do it.
He's not gonna be that at left tackle because trust
and believe you me, if that's who he was, he'd
(22:30):
be there. He'd be there. And on top of that,
you the pay different. Not saying that he got paid
hansively to be a guard, but there's a reason why
those dudes on the outside is the third highest paid
dudes outside, So even that even changes. So going he
has trained hisself to be the best left guard in
(22:52):
the National Football League, not the national freaking Football League
and to kick him outside. It's not doing it's not
doing him any favors. It's not ultimately doing your offensive
line any favors. I had this discussion with my guys
on my other show because people saying, but you can't,
you can't use another first round pick on an offensive lineman.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Heah, you can. You absolutely can. For sure you can.
Wouldn't hate it, for sure, you absolutely can.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
You just have to admit, all right, this didn't work
out for so maybe he's Tyler Smith, Tyler got excuse me,
it's gonna be our swing tackle. Maybe we should we
swing them over to the right hand side and we
go and we go drafting the first round pick.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Line.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Now, if you do that, what now has to happen
is because you use a first round pick on another
offensive lineman, you gotta be dead set now in free
agency of going to get some truly impactful players, some
guys who not not not this, not those dudes who
want not those guys.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
You go spend money.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
You got go spend money because if you're using it,
if you're using because I'm of the belief, if you
take a guy in the first round, he's your Day
one starter if he goes, especially if you drafted somewhere
around for the Cowboys, their first draft pick was probably
gonna be twelve, thirteen, fourteen in that area. If you
d forgot that high. He day one, he day one,
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so all right, cool. Then if I go tackle left
tackle day one, that's fine. You could do that. That's no.
There's nothing that says you can't do three years in
a row drafting an offensive lineman. You sure can't. And
then you got to go get busy elsewhere in a
serious way. But I just don't think taking that young
man from where he has been prolific, where he has
(24:33):
been the best, to moving them outside to where he'll
be okay, above average at best.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
You know, time to tell how they are thinking. But
back to what he said, if you draft a player
or repeat position, the bottom line is what you cannot accept,
and I'm talking about fan wise you can't accept is
if we sitting here after the draft or at shooting
(25:05):
when free agency start saying, well, we know they ain't
gonna they ain't gonna do nothing, They're gonna wait two
weeks and get the you know, and get the bargain player.
Nine time out of ten. When you get the bargain player.
Guess what happens when you get on the field against
equal a better talent. You're gonna get the bargain player.
You're gonna go right back into this. That's why I'm
(25:26):
saying earlier in the show, you got to change how
you do things.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
It can't be.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Waiting to get the middle of the road guy. You
know that works sometime, but even Clowney, they're that it
took him two and a half three weeks before he
was impactful. You got to go get a guy. Our guys,
you can't keep going.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
It has to change. It has to change. If you
draft the guy, he got to be a guy that's
coming in here playing. You got to bite the bullet
somewhere here and get out of the middle. Either go
to the bottom or be fighting really get to the top.
Speaker 6 (26:04):
How do you feel about what Jesse said about long
term Tyler Smith? Would you keep him at guard or
would you see how he does these last couple of
games and then maybe entertain that idea.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
The thing is, I don't know how good he is
at tackle. We know how great he is at guard,
So now do they want to figure out how great
he can be? At tacklings and find out, ooh, it
didn't work. Leave him greatness at guard. So he's an.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
All pro guard, like you, multiple like you, you know
exactly what he is at guard.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Leave him there and build around that. Not take a
chance and sep up the whole left side.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Because it's gonna take him.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
And again, please, that's taking about six or seven No, no,
it'll take him six seven, eight nine games. But then
what is those six seven, eight nine games?
Speaker 4 (26:53):
A wow?
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Because after four games the tape is there because you
ain't never running into the same pass rusher, you know,
And what if what if? Well, I ain't got to
say what if the Giants that that the Eagles they
got it, And so when they get the film, they
canna be like, Okay, this is how I can get Tyler,
just how I think I can.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Do you want to take with je?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Do you want to take that chance and run it
six to seven games to find out we made a
mistake or we want to say, regardless of what it is,
we're gonna run with it. But whatever these cowboys decide
to do, it ain't no more tinkering and playing, no more.
We don't spend the whole year tinkering and playing. If
eva Flus is it, get him his players. If he's
(27:37):
not it, get the next coach and get him his
players close as you can. Because this tinkering around, this
is what it gets you, man, this is what it
gets you this type of season.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Either way, you're going to have to go get some
players players. Man, it's exactly play, whether it's eba Flus
or the next Joe Blow that comes in here, because
he's going to want a specific player to match his design. Yes,
and and you have to be willing to sell out
for that or we'll be repeating this next year. So
(28:09):
sometimes it's better. It's better to kind of the not
the devil that you're dealing with, than the devil that
you don't know, you know what I'm saying. So if
Matt eber Flu is the guy that saying I need X,
Y and Z players I just for the I'm never
gonna believe it. I'm never going to believe it that
there was a unanimous okay in a room to let
go of Michael Parsons. And you can't you there can't be.
(28:33):
There can't be a unanimous.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
Decision in a room wanted to have success to have success.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
You know, you know, and you know what the conversation
went like when they hired coach e with flues and
they send Jerry looking him in his eyes, and Steven
and Will McClay are all sitting around, tell us.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Who you are, and he started with with Parsons.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Yes, you know, you tell me my corners are darn
bland and and did and Diggs. Oh man, I can
manufacture some sacks coming up the middle with the blitz
of the lot.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
I can do this. And that was all predicated on that.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Yeah, because you know why, Because that dude, Michael Parsons.
I don't have to set nothing up for him. I
can roll the ball out. He gonn go get No, No,
I don't need to set thathing up. He gonna go
get me ten eleven by hisself. When you have that
level of understanding, now, it's it's it's to where when
when Nate talks about back when he played with Dion,
they just say, Hey, the rest of ten of y'all
(29:30):
gonna have to play whatever y'all gonna play. Twenty one
gonna play man, and he's gonna play man against the
best player. Well, all right, cool, that's what we don't
have to worry about that at all. You just I
just I'm sorry as if I had that position, if
you told me I was in the same thing with
(29:51):
with with with with Shaddy, I get, I get Dak
and CD. Oh that's I'm I'm already ahead of the game.
I got a franchise quarterback. I got a top ten quarterback.
I'm ahead of the game. I'm ahead of the game
coming in. I'm ahead of the game. You think when
when Ben Johnson been talking any job you wanted, he said,
(30:13):
I'm gonna go somewhere. I know I got a good quarterback. Yeah,
somewhere I can boom. You know what I'm saying. Liam Cohen,
same thing, he said. This kid, this kid got skilled,
he just needs me boom. Look at those teams now
Lem wins head to the playoffs, not where you thought
they would be at. Rabil said, oh, I go back
to New England. They gotta I like that quarterback up.
I'm ahead of the game.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Josh, come on in here.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
I'm ahead of the game.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
So Josh, we need you.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
Yeah, I got I got that. Offensively, I'm ahead of
the game. I got Michael Parsons. I'm ahead of any
defensive game. Y'all want to play because and you know
we can manufacture pressure for all you guys. Yeah, I'm
gonna use I played the game for all you guys
that come on here.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Talking about coaches make players, that's only ten percent true,
because ninety percent truth, players make coaches. So all y'all
talking about evil flu should have been able to manufacture something.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Y'all are dummies, we said.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
We weren't saying that.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Okay, y'all are not smart, said, We were saying that
no better.
Speaker 6 (31:17):
Way to end the savings on a good old dummy comment.
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Speaker 4 (33:53):
Welcome back to the final segment of Hanging with the Boys.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
Think I'm going yeah about seven eleven Open twenty four
to seven. Speaking of twenty four seve, let's talk a
little bit about the game pickings got back on track.
Speaking of being open twenty four seven, him and your
guy Johnston on the by the way, I always liked Herbert.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
I really like that kid. That's a tough SOB man.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Goddamn about him. Boy, they they can't care about they
don't care about him. That makes a broken hand and
they're like toush push touch push again. I said, they
make got a broken hand. He breaks off and runs
forty yards. Instead of him sliding and getting he throws.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
The hand out there.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
He's trying to Yes, I said, you got to be
the dumbest and you got to be a dummy. He
had a broken hand.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
I was like, dude, he's tough kid. I like this guy.
Speaker 6 (34:45):
He's a pretty boy, surfer looking kid, and he just
doesn't care about his body. I was like, man, all right,
let's go. So that's gonna be my AFC team.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
I like to think I like the Chargers.
Speaker 6 (34:56):
So what y'all think over all about the game? Any
any good things out of the game That kind of
looked like he was off to throw for eight hundred
yards and eighty points, right, and then kind of just
why they.
Speaker 7 (35:08):
Shut them down in the second hand?
Speaker 6 (35:09):
Yeah, did they make adjustments?
Speaker 5 (35:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (35:15):
I mean, is that? What? Is that?
Speaker 2 (35:16):
What caused the simple They made simple adjustments?
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Like they was.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
I'm I'm sorry, y'all, but they was playing a soft
cover too, and everybody was getting back and we was
just dissecting them. But as the game got tighter and
it got closer and we kicked our first field goal
to go down, they just stopped moving their guys.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
It wasn't a big adjustment.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
They just stopped moving their guys up a little closer inside,
playing a little bit man's is I'm wrong right they started.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
See I'm telling you it's a lot.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Of people in this league will played cover too early
in the game just to see what you're running, you know.
And then as because they come on man, Durren James,
they got another corner on m his name, they got
some balls. And I'm telling you Number.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
Zo you said it before the game.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I'm telling you, man, what a what a smart, talented
safety and linebacker would do to help this team would
be tremendous, I'm telling you now.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
And there's one and people don't do it. And there's
one thing that because Matt Eberflus has been so bad
and his defense has been so bad this year, the
combination of the two that coach Schottenheimer has gotten a
bit of a pass. In some areas, this team hasn't
(36:54):
been good this year. In the red zone, they struggle
and as many points as they score, they're scoring him
from far out. Yes, they are right, and so you're
not being able to be creative enough when that window
shrinks on you. My good friend Bobby belt he laid
(37:14):
out some stats about this team in the red zone.
But also, and this is the part of the game
where I think that coach Eber, excuse me, Coach Shaddy,
he has to improve on it's and Kurt, you'll get
this because you're a baseball guy. Normally, they don't want
a pitcher to go the distance because that batter will
(37:35):
see him for the third time. And if you only
got so many pitches, the really good hitters are gonna
be able to know what pitches are on the way,
they'll sit on them, they'll jump them, and next thing
you know, they're trotting around the basein with a home run.
So a lot of times, you know, unless you're an
elite pitcher, they don't want you around for the third
(37:55):
time around with these batters. And I think that's the
same thing for Shady is that he starts the game
out a certain way and then he doesn't have a counter,
he doesn't have a next move, and so when you
get to the second half, those defenses they start they
you start looking at route recognition, alignment recognition, things that
(38:20):
we've seen on film, because no matter how much you
don't want to have tendencies, every single coordinator, coach, whoever
in this league has tendencies. What I hope is is
that they don't catch on them to them too quick,
they don't recognize them when we're trying to get to them,
and that we ultimately have the better Jimmies and Joe's
(38:42):
to execute than they do.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
That is the one most important thing. You just said,
do you have a tendency breaker? And he just said
it with that and Joe right.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
If you got to.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
We have an elite running back, you could change a
whole lot just by swinging or pass out out of
the backfield.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
You can change a whole lot boat.
Speaker 7 (39:06):
And I think you know Pekins and Lamb Prescott could
do that.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
But my thing is is that now when you adjust,
like when the defense adjust, you have to adjust.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
Too, thank you.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
You have to have a counter, and I think the
Cowboys don't have a shot.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
He didn't.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
He hadn't quite learned his counters just yet, and so
he didn't. He tried to rely sometimes on just man,
I hope my Jimmies and Joe's just are better. And
when they aren't, you stuck. You haven't figured out a
way to unlock them in two halves of football.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
So when you were looking at the game, because you know,
I'm listening to Isaiah, he likes you, y'all real knowledgement
on the back end and secondary and Isaic, Yeah, they're.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
Just sitting back. They just sitting back.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
And even to Drew Brees like man, I would have
thought they would have tried to take these two great
wide receivers out, but they just in the cover two
they're just sitting back.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
And now and I'm like, Drew, come on, you know.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
What's gonna happen in the second half Because I'm sitting
here saying, Okay, they're gonna move. He guys up, just
just as midget to see what, see what Dak do
to see what? And we didn't and we didn't make
no adjustments right, and we didn't. And I learned another thing.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
We don't move.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
And I'm not And I asked the question to Isaiah,
is our guy, George Pickens? Is he savvy enough to
play all those posicians and to move around and run
all these different routes. Because if he is, then that's
all coach had to do. You are unstoppable. That's why
(40:38):
the kid at Cincinnati, the kid that Minnesota unstoppable because
you can't you can't pinpoint them.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
Yeah, just under fifty percent of the time George Pickens
is lined up on the left hand side, he's up
on the left hand side, and a lot of that
he's lined up on the left hand side outside the numbers.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
And that's not hard for it's not hard to stop.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
It's not hard for defense, a dB, a defensive coordinator
to go all right, cool, let's play the percentages about
fifty percent of the time, he's gonna be on the left,
he's gonna be outside the numbers. Right, And what happens.
Go back and watch some of that film they Minnesota
and the charges. There's like, okay, cool, we're gonna we're
(41:26):
gonna take this land away. He hit him for one
time off the sideline.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
Cool, there's a cool.
Speaker 5 (41:29):
We'll give him that. But you have no other counter
for that.
Speaker 7 (41:33):
Is it a coaching thing or is that picking doesn't
can't handle?
Speaker 5 (41:37):
I says both. I say it's both. I say it's
a coaching a coaching problem by not pushing him to
do so. I say it's a player problem by not
wanting wanting to do so and just saying no, no. See,
he can't always be the move guy. Let me be
the move guy. Let me go in motion, let me
line up all over the place, let me play some
slot but now what comes with that. You got to
(41:58):
see when you play that slot. Yeah know, you gotta
know what the hell going on in that back end. Now,
you can't play that slot and don't know who buzzing
out to you, who, what them safety is doing, and
all that con stuff. You just can't be willing to
be playing that slot. That slot takes up. That that
slot takes a lot of knowing what's going on, because
as you're moving, that coverage is shifting, those dudes is
buzzing underneath you. If you ain't, if you ain't savvy
(42:21):
enough and understand what's happening around you, you'll you'll run
right into.
Speaker 4 (42:25):
This right here in the safety you'll be eating you right.
Speaker 5 (42:28):
Yeah, or you or you don't see that. You don't
see that backside got so you think, oh, I'm right there,
and that quarterback if you flash open and he throw
it the whole time they set you up, trap player, whoop,
interception back the other way, whoop, Get your head knocked off.
That's what you gotta be, that people's old player slot.
That slot ain't just for the that even for the week,
(42:49):
you just ain't gonna do. You'll just don't go back
and look at the real good slot players. And I'm
this is not me saying that George is not an
intelligent person at all. I'm not saying that. I am
saying it takes. It takes a very very very very
knowledgeable person of what's happening from that second level, that
third level, because them safety, that linebacker, because sometimes you think,
(43:11):
oh I'm good, and that they bring a guy from
the backside is covering that that deep throw in the
backside when you think you open you like this and
quebecs and you hand go up, he throw it whole time.
You didn't got set up from the backside interception. You
got to know what's going on in that slot.
Speaker 6 (43:28):
Jesse stat of the week justin Herbert saved you combined
one hundred and fifty plus yards rushing the Chargers win.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
They had one hundred and fifty two.
Speaker 6 (43:40):
And congratulations to Antoine and Maryland that missed the final
score by three points. He had Chargers thirty one, Cowboys seventeen.
So both depressing that y'all got that right.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
Anyway, it's time for us to go tomorrow. Man, it
did go by it tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
Got shout out right quick again, shout out Oh.
Speaker 5 (44:01):
Shout out happy heavily birthday to Kylie. Shout out to Kyle,
her dad and Jake Jake Jack j Dubb her grandfather.
My peoples, that's what we had dinner with. Shout out Williams.
Speaker 6 (44:11):
Thoughts are with you, guys. Chris scheduled this week today
and tomorrow and that's.
Speaker 5 (44:15):
It, right, just tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (44:17):
That is CRAG today and tomorrow and that's it for
this week, right, So tomorrows on Thursday, Mary Christmas. We
got a lot to get everybody offense.
Speaker 4 (44:28):
Defense, Yeah, y'all, where you're gonna be. I'm listening to listen.
Speaker 5 (44:33):
I mean, what you're gonna tell?
Speaker 7 (44:34):
I mean, what's coach you don't want to break down?
Speaker 4 (44:37):
The Yeah, breakdown and Washington commanders tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (44:40):
Maybe they gotta watch john coming, y'all. I gotta Josh Johnson.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Jeez, Louis, they're coming, they coming.
Speaker 6 (44:49):
I would say we take phone calls, but I wouldn't
get to him anyway. So just listen to the true
last show of the last show of the week.
Speaker 4 (44:55):
All right, Nate, good stuff. Yeah, and Queenn is the
defense They and coach.
Speaker 6 (45:00):
Kurt good seeing you. Chris, Thanks for Kemos on the air. Josh,
thanks for keeping him company. We will be back tomorrow,
last show of the week, same time, same place.
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But uh, I'm a girlfriend you lost.
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Man, glad you didn't say any names.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
I know right, No, Stop, I do want to and
this is a friend of the show I got Jay Dubb.
I want to give a happily happy, heavenly birthday uh
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That's why I have pink on today.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Today we're representing Kylie. Uh, today's her birthday. So, so
J Dubb and Kyle Man, Happy birthday to Kylie. Your thoughts,
our thoughts and prayers are with you on this day
and during this holiday.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Man.
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So love your dudes. Man Jack you you know you
my dude. J Dubb, you know you, my guy man,
and he loves you. He loves everybody. Everybody loves super
like everybody overly loves date. So, but but happy birthday.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Why you going love to do that.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
See see, y'all got the most misperception of me. I
can pronounce things I can. I do know a lot
more sometime than I do. Come on, man, I love
you man, the old the old guy, they love you.
If everybody put up with the old guy except Kurt,
the real the real unk, the real unk of the show.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Name that name again that we're shouting out.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Kylie, Kylie, Kylie, Happy birthday, Kylie.
Speaker 6 (03:30):
Thoughts with you guys in the family. That's that's how,
that's the guys we had to dinner with dinner with right.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Why did you not wear a tight shirt today?
Speaker 5 (03:37):
So, Jesse, that's semi tight, that's kind of tight.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
He had more of this one in a while, and
the weather was nice. I was like, it's kind of
feels like spring out side. So we got a tour
going by. Hey man, dude, it's good to see that
stare me down. Bro.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Even after the letdown yesterday.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
The fans are still wearing their cowboys gear on the tour.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
They haven't burned it.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Nice smile. That's my money can buy right there, lady,
Well fellas.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
You're still trying to stare me down. Man, I should
I do it in younger days, I have heard it said,
but now big that not big, No, not hurt him?
Speaker 6 (04:17):
Now them hands telling y'all Nate's got the strongest hands
in the world.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Yeah, well that's it. It's over. What's that? Brother?
Speaker 6 (04:30):
We got what two more weeks of this weeks?
Speaker 4 (04:34):
It ain't over?
Speaker 7 (04:35):
Man?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
What ain't overtime say? It's over? Is it over? But over? Postseason? Hopes?
Oh man?
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Next to the name the E.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Yes, the E show, the one you were talking about,
the E.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
Disappointed saw it coming coming? I think, Yeah, did you
think it would be this weekend?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Jesse did?
Speaker 6 (05:00):
And Jesse thought they were going to create a little
drama toward the end of the season.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
I did.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
I thought that shot he was gonna go kind of
all out.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Just how did you feel about the.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
First off the overall game plan because he went a
little aggressive in the beginning right and then? And then
I got a couple of questions about the defense. One
did did ebra Flus try some different things?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
And is this is this? Is this? Like, Hey, I'm
going to show y'all what y'all been asking for.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
Look, this is what I've been dealt this year, and.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
It ain't on me fellas. It ain't on me.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
Look, no matter what look we give them, they go
right down the field.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Like this year defensively has been. It's been an it's
been an absolute as show. It really has. And a
part of it, A part of it is Matt Ebraflus,
A part of it is the talent that Matt Eberflus
had coach. A lot of it, blame, blame, shits fall
(06:04):
on the shoulders of the person who put it all together,
from the higher end to the players. Okay, that that
a lot of it needs to be sheltered there as well.
But you know, this is just not a defensively They're
just not good as a unit. And I don't know
if I don't, I don't know if another defensive coordinator
(06:24):
would have taken this level of talent and made any difference.
I also don't know that if this defensive coordinator with
another level of players would have made any difference. I
do like to believe, because I know that this is
a talent based league, that the more talent you have,
the better talent you have, and the healthier talent you have,
(06:47):
to use a Nate word by osmosis, you will be better.
This is what this was. This was a This was
a s show from start to finish. Defensively and while
we had a little bit of an intermission in it
when Quinn Williams came along, Quinn didn't help that much.
Go back, look at the numbers. Quinn didn't help that much.
(07:08):
They went from forty fifth worse to forty second worst. No,
they went from thirty first, thirty first, thirty second to
twenty eight twenty nine.
Speaker 7 (07:16):
Make sure you wonder how they won those three games.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
In the room, you know, yeah, this we can, we can,
we can, we can point fingers and and and blame
all we want. Uh, there are there are a contingency
of fans who just don't like Maddeperflus. That's and the
words of Nate Newton fan, how you want a fan
(07:38):
and fan it up. And if you don't like him,
that's fine. And he's had his fair share of things
that he didn't do right, but he showed you in
this game. You want them more blitzing, You wanted more
one on one coverage, Cool, let's do it. A guy
who has been sacked eleven times in the last two games,
you didn't get to him once.
Speaker 7 (07:56):
How does that even happen.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
You didn't get to him once, not even close.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
You didn't get too once they had their fifth offensive line,
backup offensive lineman.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
You didn't get to the backup, to the backup, to
the backup to the backup.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Right.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Yeah, you didn't get to him once.
Speaker 7 (08:12):
Have a sack in the last two games. They only
have one in the last three.
Speaker 6 (08:15):
So I think that's the most frustrating part to me
as a fan is you don't know. Usually you can
pinpoint something, Okay, we got to get better here, or
this guy's scheme doesn't fit this.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
Diggs wanted to play man, all right, Diggs, go play
man right, Okay, cool quick. Quinn Johnson run right by.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
And he actually caught the ball yesterday. Well, I was
so shy that white catch was nice.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
But I said, we are Jesse, I said, I said,
we are truly even get right team.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
This was a can't catch boys. Man.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Listen this, Quentin Johnson, go look it up, Kurt. He
doesn't have one hundred yard game all season until Sunday.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
Sunday and didn't even try to catch that touchdown with
two I got this.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
They told us Rubble was going to be this. He
ain't playing well Diggs wanted to go man, that didn't
work well.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
But I think that's the frustrating part is the whole season,
not just this game, the whole season. You don't know,
you have more questions now going into the draft than
you did at the.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Beginning of the year. Yeah, right, Like it's like what's
chicken or the egg? Right? What's broken?
Speaker 6 (09:29):
The scheme, the coaching, the personnel, the talent.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Like all the above, Like what do you do? What
do you do? What do you do these last two weeks?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
So now that you know this, Shannon, that you have
no answers to these questions, I'm going to ask you
when you should have some feel for because it's going
to be asked a thousand times. Draft shows are going
to be the most rate, number one rated thing around here.
So what are you draft than Shannon? And I have
you ever't? Haven't thought that?
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Yes, it's a great answer.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
You can pick any position to me in the first
the first two picks anywhere, but to me but quarterback.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yes, yes, okay, all right, how about you?
Speaker 6 (10:17):
Obviously I'd like to go defensive side of the ball
or depending on which we got to, We're going to
dedicate the whole second segment to the offensive line because
that little change they did before the game, so many
questions about is that is that planning for next year?
Is that planning to get rid of the whole steals money?
Speaker 4 (10:34):
What did what was that whole thing about? Or was
it just injury? Go ahead, Kurt, what are you going?
What you want? Draw?
Speaker 7 (10:41):
I think the focus has to be on the defense probably.
I mean, look at your defensive end. They spend so
much capital on the defensive tackles. They have three twenty
million dollar tackles, and I have anybody on the ends
that can get to the quarterback. And now of that
group they have on the roster, who's back next year?
Is a roku?
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Who else?
Speaker 4 (11:02):
That's it? Yep?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
A one year or two year contract? One year he gone?
You know, all you gotta do is show up on
the Star a couple of times. Oh we're gonna get him,
but we ain't gonna pay. And we ain't gonna pay.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
He leaves your team in sacks.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Yeah, how shocked were you? I was?
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Now, mind you he has five and a half. He
had the first he got three of those with like
the first couple of times in the beginning of the season.
So when everybody was like, see, we don't need the
goddess in a Green Bay. We don't need him.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
We got James Green even people need Green and Green
Bay needed. Yeah, how shocked were you? I was floored.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
I would have almost bet anything that tray Von was
not going to play another.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Down for the Cowboys. Were you a choice? Was that
just injury? Like we gotta put him out there.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
You didn't have bland and you didn't have seatbelt. Yeah,
seatbelt didn't play.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
So that was just a matter of attrition.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
It was like I think so to feel the teacher
leave those kids.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
You know, you know the only problem we have here,
It ain't it ain't the only problem.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
It's a major problem. Is do a kid want to play?
Speaker 8 (12:16):
That?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
You know, people asking me to say one go one
way or another on trayline, I'm not. I mean, I'm
quite sure you feel the same. If the kid don't want.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
To play, he could be a handy man.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yeah, I mean, you just don't want to play.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
What are you gonna do?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
You can't make somebody play who just don't want to play.
And I didn't get the handy man part, but you know,
you can want to explain that.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
Oh oh no, Trayvon did he explained the mystery.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Okay, the handy man he came out, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Yeah he was. He was trying to be a handyman.
So I guess if he doesn't want to play football
on what you want to grab on? But anyway, yeah,
if you don't want to play football, then maybe maybe
handyman might be in.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
I get it now, Yeah I missed. All right, let's
take our first when we come back.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
I have so many questions about this move on the
offensive line, and we have, luckily at our disposal.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Jesse said no to that move when we come back. Oh,
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Speaker 4 (15:32):
Well, welcome back to the second segment.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
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to ask this question. Date, What the hell is going
on with the offensive line?
Speaker 4 (15:45):
What are they doing? What was up with the move
Tyler Smith moving from guard to tackle? Do you approve
of it?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Thomas was hurt, guiding wasn't healthy, and agents didn't want
to take no more chance would numbers seventy five because
he was putting the spind top last week. They did
not want to go through that this year, and you
know you put it Ringer in the Washington. Don't get
you in the Washington.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Get you to.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Side cycle, like we finna do this, not because they
wanted to. Now Milton was going out there. Now, I
ain't got to get your milk. But if he was
going out there seventy five, okay, But you were sending
your big dog out there. So they like, our left
guard is our best offensive lineman who happens to be
(16:32):
able to play left tackle above average, and they put
him out there.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
And put say TJ.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Bass, it's your chance to show us where you can
be a valuable back up. Come on at this left guard,
and let's do this.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
So you don't think it was a precursor to them.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Poss Since it work him and work one time, let's
try it again next week and see if it works.
Don't worry about the guide. Don't worry about it. And
they we got the left tackle.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
Yeah he's gonna play in the rest of the season.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Yeah, they're gonna play the reside.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
They're like, man, I think they are sending little messages.
You know, Yeah, we may get even flutes, but we're.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Gonna get a whole lot of y'all with him.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah, Jesse, you know, I know, and we all been
in this camp too long. This is a pivotable year
for everybody. You went seven and whatever, six and whatever
last year. Now we're goinna go seven and whatever, maybe
whatever this year. The fans want to see more and
(17:37):
they you e'tvenna talk like one dude's man, Jerry talked
me off the ledge every year. I don't think it's
Jones and talk to this dude this year coming up
off the ledge. You you're gonna have to do some
things a little bit different, a whole lot different. And
if you do it the same way, I promise you
firing this guy, firing that guy, changing this, changing that,
(17:57):
and you can't show a concrete found of how you
go on this team, it's gonna be a lot of
disappointed people. It's gonna be a lot of disappointed why
you didn't want that move.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
Yeah, if you're telling me that, Tyler Smith, If this
is just, hey, man, we just need to get into
the season right. And if it's just because hey, we're
playing Dak the next two games and we just need
to get to the end of the season, I'm fine
with it. But if This is a legit situation where
you're saying that Tyler Smith could potentially be your left tackle.
(18:29):
I hate it.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
One.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
He spent the last four or five years honing, perfecting,
working his craftsmanship as a left guard. And I'm not
gonna sit here one bit and tell you how to
play the position right, because you understand it more than
any of us at this table. But there are things
that you learn, Like when you work as a guard,
you're more working in the phone booth. It's a fight,
(18:53):
it's a hand to hand combat. I get to do
things to you, maul you, grab you, russell with you,
be physical with you in these trenches. As a guard,
I can I can you know, get you do. Knock
you down here, get up to the next level when
you kick out to that tackle.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
There's a whole lot.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Of space out there you gotta dance with.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Now.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
There's a whole lot of stuff that you gotta deal
with out there that you don't have to deal with
when you're inside. That guy on it, that guy on inside,
he he damned their nose and nose with you. It
ain't too much. He don't got too much room to
work around you. When you get outside them Jogglen, get
them wide nines and you know that joker coming from
seven yards out and now you just gotta shit back there.
(19:34):
And he now he doing all this and you gotta
be able to It's the chop, it's the dipper rip,
it's the Gohot mooth, it's the rip, spin back. All
that's coming coming your way. Now it's a lot different,
and he hasn't worked on doing that. Now. Credit to
Tyler Smith for them having enough confidence in him and saying,
this dude is good enough athlete that in a pinch
(19:56):
we can kick him outside. But when I'm I'm a
firm believer of this, when they get film and tape
on him and opponents are coming down the pike and
they know that's where they have to go against, defenders
start looking at him and saying, oh, I could pick
him apart. Now I could?
Speaker 2 (20:14):
I can?
Speaker 5 (20:14):
I know how to do this, this, this, and this
and this against him. Now, Will Tyler Smith wins some sure?
I mean I think he's that good of an athlete
that he'll win some of those. But I think you
do you do a disservice to your offensive line because
you if we talk to any quarterback a quarterback will
tell you I can deal with the outside pressure. Go
(20:37):
watch film this year. That prescott was David Blaine, who
deeded the way that he was making magician type moves
in that pocket with his ability with that rush coming around,
I can step up, I can step to the side.
Just about every single quarterback will always tell you, I
don't want the pressure coming down the middle. I don't
want that interior pressure where I can't step up into
(20:59):
a throw because if I can't step up, then I
can't move left or right right. And now most quarterbacks
when they go to throw you here start talking about
he gets to that back foot, plants his back foot,
and I want to be able to drive the ball.
I mean step up into my throw, drive the ball
down the field. If that interior is consistent, consistently being
uh disrupted, and I'm getting pressure in that area, I
(21:22):
don't like it. My balls are sailing now, they're going high,
they're flailing around. I'm inaccurate, interceptions, interceptions are happening. So
and then on top of that, you you you kind
of almost tear down because I get it. Tyler Smith
may be better at left tackle than Guidon or Thomas
(21:45):
doesn't mean he'll be great at left tackle. This might
be better than the guy won't be a Pro Bowl there, right,
you're you're now, you're now disrupting a legacy of a
guy who's been All Pro four or five consecutive years, are,
if not the best, one of the best. He ain't
dropping past three left guards in the whole league. We're
(22:08):
talking about this is a trajectory. Now he continues this
for the next seven eight years and he got none
Pro Bowls and seven All Pros. We're talking about Ring
of Honor stuff, We're talking about potential Hall of Fame stuff.
We're talking about setting a legacy of this guy playing
that position as one of the best to ever do it.
He's not gonna be that at left tackle because trust
and believe you me, if that's who he was, he'd
(22:30):
be there. He'd be there. And on top of that,
you the pay different. Not saying that he got paid
hansively to be a guard, but there's a reason why
those dudes on the outside is the third highest paid
dudes outside, So even that even changes. So going he
has trained hisself to be the best left guard in
(22:52):
the National Football League, not the national freaking Football League
and to kick him outside. It's not doing it's not
doing him any favors. It's not ultimately doing your offensive
line any favors. I had this discussion with my guys
on my other show because people saying, but you can't,
you can't use another first round pick on an offensive lineman.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Heah, you can. You absolutely can. For sure you can.
Wouldn't hate it, for sure, you absolutely can.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
You just have to admit, all right, this didn't work
out for so maybe he's Tyler Smith, Tyler got excuse me,
it's gonna be our swing tackle. Maybe we should we
swing them over to the right hand side and we
go and we go drafting the first round pick.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Line.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Now, if you do that, what now has to happen
is because you use a first round pick on another
offensive lineman, you gotta be dead set now in free
agency of going to get some truly impactful players, some
guys who not not not this, not those dudes who
want not those guys.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
You go spend money.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
You got go spend money because if you're using it,
if you're using because I'm of the belief, if you
take a guy in the first round, he's your Day
one starter if he goes, especially if you drafted somewhere
around for the Cowboys, their first draft pick was probably
gonna be twelve, thirteen, fourteen in that area. If you
d forgot that high. He day one, he day one,
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so all right, cool. Then if I go tackle left
tackle day one, that's fine. You could do that. That's no.
There's nothing that says you can't do three years in
a row drafting an offensive lineman. You sure can't. And
then you got to go get busy elsewhere in a
serious way. But I just don't think taking that young
man from where he has been prolific, where he has
(24:33):
been the best, to moving them outside to where he'll
be okay, above average at best.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
You know, time to tell how they are thinking. But
back to what he said, if you draft a player
or repeat position, the bottom line is what you cannot accept,
and I'm talking about fan wise you can't accept is
if we sitting here after the draft or at shooting
(25:05):
when free agency start saying, well, we know they ain't
gonna they ain't gonna do nothing, They're gonna wait two
weeks and get the you know, and get the bargain player.
Nine time out of ten. When you get the bargain player.
Guess what happens when you get on the field against
equal a better talent. You're gonna get the bargain player.
You're gonna go right back into this. That's why I'm
(25:26):
saying earlier in the show, you got to change how
you do things.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
It can't be.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Waiting to get the middle of the road guy. You
know that works sometime, but even Clowney, they're that it
took him two and a half three weeks before he
was impactful. You got to go get a guy. Our guys,
you can't keep going.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
It has to change. It has to change. If you
draft the guy, he got to be a guy that's
coming in here playing. You got to bite the bullet
somewhere here and get out of the middle. Either go
to the bottom or be fighting really get to the top.
Speaker 6 (26:04):
How do you feel about what Jesse said about long
term Tyler Smith? Would you keep him at guard or
would you see how he does these last couple of
games and then maybe entertain that idea.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
The thing is, I don't know how good he is
at tackle. We know how great he is at guard,
So now do they want to figure out how great
he can be? At tacklings and find out, ooh, it
didn't work. Leave him greatness at guard. So he's an.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
All pro guard, like you, multiple like you, you know
exactly what he is at guard.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Leave him there and build around that. Not take a
chance and sep up the whole left side.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Because it's gonna take him.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
And again, please, that's taking about six or seven No, no,
it'll take him six seven, eight nine games. But then
what is those six seven, eight nine games?
Speaker 4 (26:53):
A wow?
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Because after four games the tape is there because you
ain't never running into the same pass rusher, you know,
And what if what if? Well, I ain't got to
say what if the Giants that that the Eagles they
got it, And so when they get the film, they
canna be like, Okay, this is how I can get Tyler,
just how I think I can.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Do you want to take with je?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Do you want to take that chance and run it
six to seven games to find out we made a
mistake or we want to say, regardless of what it is,
we're gonna run with it. But whatever these cowboys decide
to do, it ain't no more tinkering and playing, no more.
We don't spend the whole year tinkering and playing. If
eva Flus is it, get him his players. If he's
(27:37):
not it, get the next coach and get him his
players close as you can. Because this tinkering around, this
is what it gets you, man, this is what it
gets you this type of season.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Either way, you're going to have to go get some
players players. Man, it's exactly play, whether it's eba Flus
or the next Joe Blow that comes in here, because
he's going to want a specific player to match his design. Yes,
and and you have to be willing to sell out
for that or we'll be repeating this next year. So
(28:09):
sometimes it's better. It's better to kind of the not
the devil that you're dealing with, than the devil that
you don't know, you know what I'm saying. So if
Matt eber Flu is the guy that saying I need X,
Y and Z players I just for the I'm never
gonna believe it. I'm never going to believe it that
there was a unanimous okay in a room to let
go of Michael Parsons. And you can't you there can't be.
(28:33):
There can't be a unanimous.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
Decision in a room wanted to have success to have success.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
You know, you know, and you know what the conversation
went like when they hired coach e with flues and
they send Jerry looking him in his eyes, and Steven
and Will McClay are all sitting around, tell us.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Who you are, and he started with with Parsons.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Yes, you know, you tell me my corners are darn
bland and and did and Diggs. Oh man, I can
manufacture some sacks coming up the middle with the blitz
of the lot.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
I can do this. And that was all predicated on that.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Yeah, because you know why, Because that dude, Michael Parsons.
I don't have to set nothing up for him. I
can roll the ball out. He gonn go get No, No,
I don't need to set thathing up. He gonna go
get me ten eleven by hisself. When you have that
level of understanding, now, it's it's it's to where when
when Nate talks about back when he played with Dion,
they just say, Hey, the rest of ten of y'all
(29:30):
gonna have to play whatever y'all gonna play. Twenty one
gonna play man, and he's gonna play man against the
best player. Well, all right, cool, that's what we don't
have to worry about that at all. You just I
just I'm sorry as if I had that position, if
you told me I was in the same thing with
(29:51):
with with with with Shaddy, I get, I get Dak
and CD. Oh that's I'm I'm already ahead of the game.
I got a franchise quarterback. I got a top ten quarterback.
I'm ahead of the game. I'm ahead of the game
coming in. I'm ahead of the game. You think when
when Ben Johnson been talking any job you wanted, he said,
(30:13):
I'm gonna go somewhere. I know I got a good quarterback. Yeah,
somewhere I can boom. You know what I'm saying. Liam Cohen,
same thing, he said. This kid, this kid got skilled,
he just needs me boom. Look at those teams now
Lem wins head to the playoffs, not where you thought
they would be at. Rabil said, oh, I go back
to New England. They gotta I like that quarterback up.
I'm ahead of the game.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Josh, come on in here.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
I'm ahead of the game.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
So Josh, we need you.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
Yeah, I got I got that. Offensively, I'm ahead of
the game. I got Michael Parsons. I'm ahead of any
defensive game. Y'all want to play because and you know
we can manufacture pressure for all you guys. Yeah, I'm
gonna use I played the game for all you guys
that come on here.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Talking about coaches make players, that's only ten percent true,
because ninety percent truth, players make coaches. So all y'all
talking about evil flu should have been able to manufacture something.
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We weren't saying that.
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Welcome back to the final segment of Hanging with the Boys.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
Think I'm going yeah about seven eleven Open twenty four
to seven. Speaking of twenty four seve, let's talk a
little bit about the game pickings got back on track.
Speaking of being open twenty four seven, him and your
guy Johnston on the by the way, I always liked Herbert.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
I really like that kid. That's a tough SOB man.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Goddamn about him. Boy, they they can't care about they
don't care about him. That makes a broken hand and
they're like toush push touch push again. I said, they
make got a broken hand. He breaks off and runs
forty yards. Instead of him sliding and getting he throws.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
The hand out there.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
He's trying to Yes, I said, you got to be
the dumbest and you got to be a dummy. He
had a broken hand.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
I was like, dude, he's tough kid. I like this guy.
Speaker 6 (34:45):
He's a pretty boy, surfer looking kid, and he just
doesn't care about his body. I was like, man, all right,
let's go. So that's gonna be my AFC team.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
I like to think I like the Chargers.
Speaker 6 (34:56):
So what y'all think over all about the game? Any
any good things out of the game That kind of
looked like he was off to throw for eight hundred
yards and eighty points, right, and then kind of just
why they.
Speaker 7 (35:08):
Shut them down in the second hand?
Speaker 6 (35:09):
Yeah, did they make adjustments?
Speaker 5 (35:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (35:15):
I mean, is that? What? Is that?
Speaker 2 (35:16):
What caused the simple They made simple adjustments?
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Like they was.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
I'm I'm sorry, y'all, but they was playing a soft
cover too, and everybody was getting back and we was
just dissecting them. But as the game got tighter and
it got closer and we kicked our first field goal
to go down, they just stopped moving their guys.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
It wasn't a big adjustment.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
They just stopped moving their guys up a little closer inside,
playing a little bit man's is I'm wrong right they started.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
See I'm telling you it's a lot.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Of people in this league will played cover too early
in the game just to see what you're running, you know.
And then as because they come on man, Durren James,
they got another corner on m his name, they got
some balls. And I'm telling you Number.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
Zo you said it before the game.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I'm telling you, man, what a what a smart, talented
safety and linebacker would do to help this team would
be tremendous, I'm telling you now.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
And there's one and people don't do it. And there's
one thing that because Matt Eberflus has been so bad
and his defense has been so bad this year, the
combination of the two that coach Schottenheimer has gotten a
bit of a pass. In some areas, this team hasn't
(36:54):
been good this year. In the red zone, they struggle
and as many points as they score, they're scoring him
from far out. Yes, they are right, and so you're
not being able to be creative enough when that window
shrinks on you. My good friend Bobby belt he laid
(37:14):
out some stats about this team in the red zone.
But also, and this is the part of the game
where I think that coach Eber, excuse me, Coach Shaddy,
he has to improve on it's and Kurt, you'll get
this because you're a baseball guy. Normally, they don't want
a pitcher to go the distance because that batter will
(37:35):
see him for the third time. And if you only
got so many pitches, the really good hitters are gonna
be able to know what pitches are on the way,
they'll sit on them, they'll jump them, and next thing
you know, they're trotting around the basein with a home run.
So a lot of times, you know, unless you're an
elite pitcher, they don't want you around for the third
(37:55):
time around with these batters. And I think that's the
same thing for Shady is that he starts the game
out a certain way and then he doesn't have a counter,
he doesn't have a next move, and so when you
get to the second half, those defenses they start they
you start looking at route recognition, alignment recognition, things that
(38:20):
we've seen on film, because no matter how much you
don't want to have tendencies, every single coordinator, coach, whoever
in this league has tendencies. What I hope is is
that they don't catch on them to them too quick,
they don't recognize them when we're trying to get to them,
and that we ultimately have the better Jimmies and Joe's
(38:42):
to execute than they do.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
That is the one most important thing. You just said,
do you have a tendency breaker? And he just said
it with that and Joe right.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
If you got to.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
We have an elite running back, you could change a
whole lot just by swinging or pass out out of
the backfield.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
You can change a whole lot boat.
Speaker 7 (39:06):
And I think you know Pekins and Lamb Prescott could
do that.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
But my thing is is that now when you adjust,
like when the defense adjust, you have to adjust.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
Too, thank you.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
You have to have a counter, and I think the
Cowboys don't have a shot.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
He didn't.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
He hadn't quite learned his counters just yet, and so
he didn't. He tried to rely sometimes on just man,
I hope my Jimmies and Joe's just are better. And
when they aren't, you stuck. You haven't figured out a
way to unlock them in two halves of football.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
So when you were looking at the game, because you know,
I'm listening to Isaiah, he likes you, y'all real knowledgement
on the back end and secondary and Isaic, Yeah, they're.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
Just sitting back. They just sitting back.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
And even to Drew Brees like man, I would have
thought they would have tried to take these two great
wide receivers out, but they just in the cover two
they're just sitting back.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
And now and I'm like, Drew, come on, you know.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
What's gonna happen in the second half Because I'm sitting
here saying, Okay, they're gonna move. He guys up, just
just as midget to see what, see what Dak do
to see what? And we didn't and we didn't make
no adjustments right, and we didn't. And I learned another thing.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
We don't move.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
And I'm not And I asked the question to Isaiah,
is our guy, George Pickens? Is he savvy enough to
play all those posicians and to move around and run
all these different routes. Because if he is, then that's
all coach had to do. You are unstoppable. That's why
(40:38):
the kid at Cincinnati, the kid that Minnesota unstoppable because
you can't you can't pinpoint them.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
Yeah, just under fifty percent of the time George Pickens
is lined up on the left hand side, he's up
on the left hand side, and a lot of that
he's lined up on the left hand side outside the numbers.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
And that's not hard for it's not hard to stop.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
It's not hard for defense, a dB, a defensive coordinator
to go all right, cool, let's play the percentages about
fifty percent of the time, he's gonna be on the left,
he's gonna be outside the numbers. Right, And what happens.
Go back and watch some of that film they Minnesota
and the charges. There's like, okay, cool, we're gonna we're
(41:26):
gonna take this land away. He hit him for one
time off the sideline.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
Cool, there's a cool.
Speaker 5 (41:29):
We'll give him that. But you have no other counter
for that.
Speaker 7 (41:33):
Is it a coaching thing or is that picking doesn't
can't handle?
Speaker 5 (41:37):
I says both. I say it's both. I say it's
a coaching a coaching problem by not pushing him to
do so. I say it's a player problem by not
wanting wanting to do so and just saying no, no. See,
he can't always be the move guy. Let me be
the move guy. Let me go in motion, let me
line up all over the place, let me play some
slot but now what comes with that. You got to
(41:58):
see when you play that slot. Yeah know, you gotta
know what the hell going on in that back end. Now,
you can't play that slot and don't know who buzzing
out to you, who, what them safety is doing, and
all that con stuff. You just can't be willing to
be playing that slot. That slot takes up. That that
slot takes a lot of knowing what's going on, because
as you're moving, that coverage is shifting, those dudes is
buzzing underneath you. If you ain't, if you ain't savvy
(42:21):
enough and understand what's happening around you, you'll you'll run
right into.
Speaker 4 (42:25):
This right here in the safety you'll be eating you right.
Speaker 5 (42:28):
Yeah, or you or you don't see that. You don't
see that backside got so you think, oh, I'm right there,
and that quarterback if you flash open and he throw
it the whole time they set you up, trap player, whoop,
interception back the other way, whoop, Get your head knocked off.
That's what you gotta be, that people's old player slot.
That slot ain't just for the that even for the week,
(42:49):
you just ain't gonna do. You'll just don't go back
and look at the real good slot players. And I'm
this is not me saying that George is not an
intelligent person at all. I'm not saying that. I am
saying it takes. It takes a very very very very
knowledgeable person of what's happening from that second level, that
third level, because them safety, that linebacker, because sometimes you think,
(43:11):
oh I'm good, and that they bring a guy from
the backside is covering that that deep throw in the
backside when you think you open you like this and
quebecs and you hand go up, he throw it whole time.
You didn't got set up from the backside interception. You
got to know what's going on in that slot.
Speaker 6 (43:28):
Jesse stat of the week justin Herbert saved you combined
one hundred and fifty plus yards rushing the Chargers win.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
They had one hundred and fifty two.
Speaker 6 (43:40):
And congratulations to Antoine and Maryland that missed the final
score by three points. He had Chargers thirty one, Cowboys seventeen.
So both depressing that y'all got that right.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
Anyway, it's time for us to go tomorrow. Man, it
did go by it tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
Got shout out right quick again, shout out Oh.
Speaker 5 (44:01):
Shout out happy heavily birthday to Kylie. Shout out to Kyle,
her dad and Jake Jake Jack j Dubb her grandfather.
My peoples, that's what we had dinner with. Shout out Williams.
Speaker 6 (44:11):
Thoughts are with you, guys. Chris scheduled this week today
and tomorrow and that's.
Speaker 5 (44:15):
It, right, just tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (44:17):
That is CRAG today and tomorrow and that's it for
this week, right, So tomorrows on Thursday, Mary Christmas. We
got a lot to get everybody offense.
Speaker 4 (44:28):
Defense, Yeah, y'all, where you're gonna be. I'm listening to listen.
Speaker 5 (44:33):
I mean, what you're gonna tell?
Speaker 7 (44:34):
I mean, what's coach you don't want to break down?
Speaker 4 (44:37):
The Yeah, breakdown and Washington commanders tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (44:40):
Maybe they gotta watch john coming, y'all. I gotta Josh Johnson.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Jeez, Louis, they're coming, they coming.
Speaker 6 (44:49):
I would say we take phone calls, but I wouldn't
get to him anyway. So just listen to the true
last show of the last show of the week.
Speaker 4 (44:55):
All right, Nate, good stuff. Yeah, and Queenn is the
defense They and coach.
Speaker 6 (45:00):
Kurt good seeing you. Chris, Thanks for Kemos on the air. Josh,
thanks for keeping him company. We will be back tomorrow,
last show of the week, same time, same place.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and
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