April 2, 2026 • 46 mins
The crew discusses the George Pickens franchise tag situation, Pickens’ agent’s stance on long-term deals, the impact of a potential holdout on the Cowboys offense and locker room and various offseason topics including a fan-favorite voicemail from Nate Newton.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
Cowboys blowing out of.
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The backfield ex flowing down the sidelines.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
This he is hanging with the Boys. Now your hosts.
Speaker 5 (00:23):
Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross sharing.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
You look alive head Tostitos Championship Plaza outside Sports Center
at the Star in Frisco, Texas, where started all kind
of ugly this morning, but uh man, it's beautiful.
Speaker 6 (00:42):
Seventy nine degrees, the highest eighty three, the low is
sixty four.
Speaker 7 (00:47):
You put that shirt on and everything brightened up. In
the back of Christy Bee keeping his live and local.
That is Shannon Gross, just three top super Bowl champion,
Nate Newton, our boy too pumped. Daniels is not here today.
He's getting his butt checked.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Always good.
Speaker 8 (01:02):
I hope it's okay.
Speaker 9 (01:03):
Kurt.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
I am always salt and pepper poppy.
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But I've been thinking about getting a little you know, kole,
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I'm sorry, I'm sorry, sorry, I'm sorry.
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It's messed up the show? A uh don't they say?
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And now this please, I hope I don't get in
trouble thet they say, Asian people have smaller hands.
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So when Kurt go get checked, he.
Speaker 7 (01:39):
Should he should be all right, Yeah, you should be
all right. He don't go see the brothers and the doctor.
See you don't want to go see You don't want
to go see that. You don't want to have these
you don't want to have these hands filling the round
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Speaker 6 (01:53):
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Did you play wide?
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Speaker 9 (02:05):
Imagine Roger Roger checking over, Roger checking what Michael.
Speaker 10 (02:12):
Mike Irvan touched you to it? That's funny, he says that. Wow, yeah,
we is.
Speaker 8 (02:21):
He off to a great start, off to a great
start as.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Always, How you guys doing good?
Speaker 11 (02:27):
Right?
Speaker 10 (02:27):
Right week?
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Good week?
Speaker 8 (02:29):
How was your how was your break last week?
Speaker 7 (02:31):
Amazing show necessary? He'm sorry to call you no it's
all good. That's all good.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Love hearing from you.
Speaker 8 (02:37):
How was your how's your week?
Speaker 10 (02:40):
Yeah, one of the few times I called just back
to back.
Speaker 9 (02:43):
He he ignored me the first day, but he called
me back to late that night and I got into
him the next day.
Speaker 10 (02:48):
You know, he cursed us.
Speaker 9 (02:50):
I'm not saying it's a curse, but he called something
out a couple of weeks ago. And I'm gonna let
just you finish. You tell him, You tell him it's
a guy that plays for the University of Tennessee. I
hope I got this right. Yeah, he hurt his knee
a year ago and missed all of last year. What
is his name, Jesse Gerard McCoy.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
You know what.
Speaker 9 (03:12):
I got a call yesterday they said, hey, Jeron McCoy,
did it is pro Day? And I'm like, oh, I'm thinking, okay, man,
he probably hurt himself. I'm thinking, you know that that's
bad to think. I'm like, well, he probably heard hisself.
Speaker 10 (03:23):
And the dude saying, hey man, he ran a four
to three.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Now you know what that means, right?
Speaker 10 (03:28):
What you know the cowboy in the draft to du right, and.
Speaker 7 (03:35):
If you want to know more about that boy, Kurt.
He's one of the people that's getting that dives into
this at the start. All the draft guideline, the twenty
twenty six draft got am I saying that, right, it's
Kurt a part of this.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Yeah, yeah, out of that. So yeah, so go pick
this up.
Speaker 7 (03:50):
You can get it online, you get it at your
local stores. I don't know if that's true or not,
but I'm sure you can get the local stores.
Speaker 10 (03:56):
Made that shot, but pro shot, you can order it.
Speaker 9 (04:00):
That guy, that guy at the bottom, they say he
got short arms, but it don't look like it to me.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Which one? We'll pick that up?
Speaker 9 (04:09):
Kurt.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Make sure all the spelling was right in this our
boy he did, all the pictures match. Yeah, because you
don't want to mix up black guys. We all don't
want to like, you're not.
Speaker 8 (04:21):
Off to a great start.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
That a personal thing. This is kind of sometimes we
always bring the personal stuff to the public. Ways. Have
you guys called Nate lately called Nate? Do we need
to you need to machine need to hear this voicemail?
Speaker 7 (04:41):
I can I can smell give me a second epic
and it only could be done by Nate. First of all,
the fact that Nate still leaves a personal voice message
on the voice smail normally everyone just don't don't we
go like, you know, you get the you get the
generic computer. You know number you have called? No no no,
no no no it's not available. Please leave no no,
(05:02):
no no no. Not not for Nathaniel Nutan.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
He leaves a personal let me guess I get I bet.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
He says something to the effect of, you've reached the
voicemail of Nathaniel Newton.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Whatever you think, whatever you think, it is not you're
not prepared for.
Speaker 10 (05:20):
You're not.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
And then on his personal line, he tells you that
they will call you back. That's the what I love
the most. He put They put him and the wife
you on there, they gonna call you back.
Speaker 8 (05:33):
Okay, we gotta hear this.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
It's the greatest voicemail you've ever heard.
Speaker 8 (05:37):
Are you ready?
Speaker 12 (05:38):
Chris?
Speaker 7 (05:40):
In twenty twenty six, it's I called him message. I
was like, this dude still has he is the.
Speaker 8 (05:48):
Don't answer.
Speaker 10 (05:49):
No, I'm not going.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
I'm telling you we're sorry.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
We are unable.
Speaker 8 (05:59):
Oh me in a second.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
On back there?
Speaker 7 (06:03):
Yeah, but what Chris gets back to what we'll jump
back in there. But it's I called him yesterday. I
called him back because I always have. I always tell
Nate because when you speak to Nate one, it's always
a privilege when he calls you. But there's all there's
there's there's one or two things are happening. Nate's gonna
call you and say exactly what he wants to say,
doesn't care about your tork hang up, or you're gonna
(06:27):
talk for a little while. And so my, uh, my
mode of operation when I talk to Nate is if
I don't have at least twenty minutes to give to.
Speaker 10 (06:36):
Him number Chris Christy as Chris, he can't call me.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
What are you doing back there, Chris?
Speaker 10 (06:47):
I thought I just called him.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
We'll get It's on the group text. We'll get it. Yeah,
I've tried to call it twice. It's the number I have.
Speaker 9 (06:55):
You change your number, call me, Jess. I'm about to
call him, man, I hope my number change on AI.
Speaker 10 (07:03):
There. It is Jesse, Holly, Jesse it Holly.
Speaker 8 (07:09):
Hello, this is Nate News.
Speaker 9 (07:11):
Y'all know what I'm doing this time of the year.
Speaker 8 (07:13):
I could be up from Washington.
Speaker 10 (07:14):
In the corner to your left hand side or floida
down to your right hand side.
Speaker 9 (07:18):
I'm on the road, baby, I'm moving.
Speaker 11 (07:20):
I may knock on your door, and I may knock
that you leave your name and number and a brief message,
and me and Michelle will.
Speaker 13 (07:27):
Get back with you.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
I'm telling you we love you, but I'm.
Speaker 11 (07:29):
Road hogging, baby.
Speaker 10 (07:31):
Hey, name and number, May God bless you. Tod Tomad.
Speaker 8 (07:37):
Road hall, road name, road Hall, road Hall.
Speaker 10 (07:42):
Yeah, I need to create a song for that.
Speaker 7 (07:44):
I said, it's got to be the great. I was like,
I was so shocked. I was going out to hang
up till I heard his voice. I was like, let
me see what this guy got to say. That's You're amazing, Bro,
You're amazing.
Speaker 8 (07:54):
I've been having fun.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Yeah, road hog, road hall, road hall for to call
the boys up front row? Howks?
Speaker 14 (08:01):
I love it?
Speaker 8 (08:03):
Where have you been the last two weeks?
Speaker 9 (08:05):
Uh, I'm gonna tell you what I did the other day.
I just felt I had to see this dude in
North Carolina. So I jumped in the car and I
got the Sweet Home Alabama. It looks a sweet home Alabama.
Then next science said Tuscy Loose. I got halfway, I
turned around and came down. Why I want to come
(08:27):
back home? You feel feel I liked it for a minute.
Speaker 10 (08:31):
I liked it for like eight hours, and then the
next ten I'm like, no, I don't like him that much.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
That's crazy.
Speaker 10 (08:38):
You need to go see our guy up in DC
that wants to see you.
Speaker 8 (08:40):
Remember, Oh yeah, Barrington.
Speaker 9 (08:43):
Remember Okay, after this week here, after next week, I
got to get out a serious start because we got
some church things or either got to help my sister
in law or move one of the other I gotta do.
Speaker 7 (08:52):
So you help people move, that's a good man. I
don't ever call me the Nope, that's one of my
least I will send you.
Speaker 9 (08:58):
Know, but that's that's the debate money, whether it's money
the truck. I will send you money. Yeah, I'm not
helping you move. I don't ever don't ever call me
to ask you to move, because the answer is no.
But if you say, hey, I need a couple doll
for a mover, I got you.
Speaker 8 (09:15):
I remember that.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Don't call me.
Speaker 9 (09:17):
I said to my wife and said, we got to
make a decision to either help her move or let's
give her a little jack, you know.
Speaker 10 (09:23):
So yeah, I got he's up that last half.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I have PTSD for moving
because when I was fourteen, I counted we had moved
sixteen times. Man, all in the same little Yeah, pretty
much in the same little mama circuit.
Speaker 10 (09:43):
Well, bring that stuff over, you can walk over to
the next trailer park.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
Didn't even pack pack, we just put it on at
it on a little flat man up.
Speaker 11 (09:54):
Wow.
Speaker 9 (09:54):
But you know what, man, but you've you've you've grown bro.
I mean, what's the last time you move? It's been forever. Now,
been in the same apartment a while.
Speaker 10 (10:03):
Now there's a house. I got a house that You've
been in the same house for a while. He's still
you still to say, Lord, this a faver whole.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
No, maybe this was gonna be.
Speaker 8 (10:15):
This was gonna be for a while.
Speaker 9 (10:17):
Yeah, hopefully I met somebody that knows your wife's father.
I don't know where I was to say, hey, you
know Shannon. I said, yeah, well his dad is and
we were somewhere. I meant to go, oh at the
car dealership. Yes, yeah, I heard I heard you on that.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Yeah, you buy a car in this economy, life is good.
Speaker 10 (10:35):
No, No, I was just gassing through his visiting looking
for Hey, Nate, what can we do for you? Make
me feel like Jesse, Holly, that's a good feeling. Like,
what's that? Give it to me.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Yeah, that's a good feeling. That's a good feeling.
Speaker 10 (10:50):
Jes like es.
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I'll tell you donation, donation.
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Yes, all right, let's take a break, a little early break,
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This way the whole We do ano a lot going
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To Hanging with the Bulls, Welcome back to the second segment,
I Hang on with the Boys about to each and
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dot com. All right, Jesse, I'm so glad you're back
on the show this week. Thank you for more reasons
than one, but one main reason is so we can
talk about the wide receiver that it looks like he's
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gonna play on the franchise tag or hope is he
gonna put I don't think. I think you're gonna find
yourself in a in a sea situation similar to Micah
if you let this thing get to camp under the
franchise tag. I don't personally, I don't have any insight.
(14:11):
I just don't think he's there's too much history there.
There's an agent there that's hinted around that he's not
gonna they don't want that. I don't think he's gonna play. Now,
we'll see when the season starts, but I don't think
he's going to be in camp and participate in camp
under the franchise tag. Do you think this thing's gonna
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ride out to the beginning of the season and do
you expect to see if this is the way that
the Cowboys go, do you expect him to be in camp?
Speaker 8 (14:45):
So Pickett were talking about George trus Pickett.
Speaker 7 (14:47):
Let me let me first start by saying this because
we sometimes when we talk about this particular agent, David
mulu Ghetto and this recent let's just say will struggle
between the Jones and David marlu Guetta, there isn't an
agent in the National Football League that wants their client
to play under the franchise tag.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Let me be clear with that now.
Speaker 7 (15:10):
Drew Rosenhaus, not Todd France, not you name it, not
Nicole l In, not whoever, all the power brokers of
this and why is that one? Because they want long
term deals and they want their client to have long
term deals. They want their client to get the most
money they possible can because in return guys like George Pickens.
When you're their agent, you get the maximum, which is
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three percent. An NFL agent can't get more than three
percent on a contract, a football contract. Now, marketing all
that stuff, that's different, but three percent, right, So they
get a long term deal, their client is locked in
that three percent for them is a higher number.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Everyone's happy. Everyone gets paid.
Speaker 7 (15:49):
Year to year deals don't give you the leverage and
the comfortability that you want. Okay, So that's what the
franchise tag is. It's a year to year deal. Yes,
it's some guaranteed money, but if the thing goes to
hell in that one year, it's gonna be hard to
build that thing back up, whether it's be you know,
performance based and or injury based. So no, there's no agent.
(16:09):
This is not a David ma Lugetta thing. This is
no agent in the history since Jerry Jones and Company
implemented the the the the salary cap, and the franchise tag,
no agent wants to client on the franchise tag. They
do it because it's a part of the collective bargaining agreement,
but they will prefer not to. That being said, Secondly,
(16:32):
Jerry Jones, mister Jones spoke to the to the media
outlets at the NFL's owner meeting whatever it was, in
Phoenix a couple of days ago, and in his conversation,
if you're putting the pieces together, reading in between the
tea leaves, he is very clear about the franchise tag
is where they're going now.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Why hadn't said yet?
Speaker 7 (16:51):
He hadn't quite said yet, But he seems as if
that they have not talked as far as negotiations with
the agent she always.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Referresd to as the agent never's name.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
They haven't negotiated at all, So that franchise tag is
in place for that very reason.
Speaker 10 (17:11):
That leads to me.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
That leads for me to believe that if you haven't
even begun negotiations with that now, maybe you could do
it in a week, Maybe you can do it a
couple of day.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
I don't know. But up to this point, there has
not been a single.
Speaker 7 (17:24):
Conversation since George Pickts has become a Dallas cowboy this
time last year about negotiations. That tells me that they're
planning on having George Pickts play under the franchise tag
at least for this year and potentially for two years.
That'll roughly be about a two year, sixty million dollar
deal in the two years. When you put these two
franchise tags together, and to the common folk, that sounds phenomenal.
(17:50):
Sixty million dollars guaranteed for two years work. Where do
I sign up? But in the realm of NFL spaces,
that's not where I want my client to be. Jerry
in Company feels as though they're giving him a fair
shake with the franchise tag. David Maloguetta and his representation,
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George Pickers and his reputation David Malouetta feel like we deserve.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
A long term deal.
Speaker 7 (18:18):
I told you guys this a couple months ago when
I got a chance to speak to directly David Malogetta
in a restaurant, no other media members around, just he,
I and two of my guys. He made it very clear.
He made it very clear that playing on the franchise
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tag is not something he's looking for he and or
his client to do. You go back and you do
the history. You can't find under the unbrella of David Maloguetta.
A client that has played an NFL season under the
franchise tag, not a thing that he wants to do.
So this is going to be one of those up moments,
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and it doesn't. He's not going to be at unless
the contract gets done. He's not coming to ot Is
in Mini Camp because that's the only levers that he has.
He's not showing up to that.
Speaker 8 (19:11):
Now.
Speaker 7 (19:11):
There's been some talks that he is working with Dak Prescott.
Oddly enough, I'm not saying that he isn't. I'm saying
that every time we hear about guys working with Dak Prescott,
there's some sort of video, there's some sort of pictures
of it. I hadn't seen it. Now, maybe I just
missed it, but I hadn't seen it. I saw a
picture of today, a couple of them, of he and
Jake Ferguson working together. We live in a day and
(19:31):
time now where guys always want to put out there
there working. Hadn't seen that yet. Not saying that it's
not happening, but they keep saying that this is happening.
Haven't seen it yet. I highly doubt, highly highly doubt,
and I'm willing to put a lot on it. He
won't be at mini OTA's all that office and activities.
I highly highly doubt if a deal is not done
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by training camp that he'll be in ox Star California
for training camp. That's just not the way that it's
going to work. And this it's gonna be one of
those things that literally go up to the seconds before
the season begins. And with you coming into year two
of this offense and off the heel of what they
did last year, you would want these guys to be
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in place to kind of take that next step. It's
gonna have to be done without George Pickens's president unless
they can get a deal done.
Speaker 8 (20:23):
M what are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Buckle up?
Speaker 11 (20:26):
You know.
Speaker 9 (20:26):
And one thing I love about Jess and a few
guys that when he said he talked a directly to that.
Speaker 10 (20:33):
Man, this is what this man is saying.
Speaker 9 (20:35):
I'm gonna bleed this man. And you know, I'm not
one of those guys that's gonna say, well, what I
gather from what Jesse.
Speaker 10 (20:45):
Said, it's the truth. It's truth.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
I'm just telling you what I what came out of
the mouth of the man. You know, Jerry talks about
talking to the principle I talked to literally face to face,
and this is what came out of that conversation that
the franchise tag is and that's not breaking news, but
it's not something that they plan to play on.
Speaker 10 (21:11):
The thing will happen is we'll get the training camp.
Speaker 9 (21:15):
Let's say, uh, this kid signs the tag so he
don't have to go through, you know, a year of
lost salay. Let's just say he signs the tag and
he show up the training camp and this cycle repeats itself,
(21:35):
that happened a year ago. Do you want that for
your team?
Speaker 14 (21:39):
Absolutely not, because it's going to be a distraction. Yeah,
So I'm just I believe this that, Uh, do you
want this kid?
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Right?
Speaker 9 (21:51):
If you don't want this kid, get something and move on.
If you want this kid, let's don't push to the hill.
We don't have to, but we're not the powers up above.
But if you want him, let's to do something. If
you don't want him, get something and move on.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
And see what you're saying, Nate, two things can be true.
Do you want him, sure? Do you want him at
your price? That's the difference is we want them, but
we only want him at our price. And you know
I did it earlier today and we talked about George
Pickens because it was a topic that came on TV
(22:31):
earlier this morning.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Is he a necessity or is he a luxury?
Speaker 7 (22:35):
And when you think about it, like when you just
think about it, And this is not saying that anyone
does not want George Pickens. He's absolutely a luxury to have.
This team has been successful without George Pickens record wise,
league wise, like numbers offensively, they did it with Ceedee Lamb,
(22:56):
Brandon Cooks and Jaylen Tobert as your three receivers and
they had a number on offense in the league. You
know what I'm saying, Like they've done it before where
Ceedee Lamb has been more than enough for this offense
to be successful. Again, I'm not saying that I do
not want George Pickens. I am saying that he is
a luxury to have, and I think the Cowboys viewed
(23:19):
as that as well. I've long said this. When the
Cowboys made the trade with Pittsburgh for George Pickens, they
didn't have a contingency plan. They didn't have a plan
for what if he blows up in a good way,
like a man spoken at a gas station, I'm about
to blow up. But they didn't have a contingency plan
(23:41):
for that. They hoped that he would be a missing
piece to get this thing over the hump. But you
finished seven nine to one. So you had this prolific
season fourteen hundred yards, ninety three catches, nine touchdowns, but
she was seven nine to one.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
You didn't the playoffs. So something that's.
Speaker 7 (24:02):
Really that happened really good didn't result in the things
that you wanted it to because of the lack of
defense that you didn't have. And so there have to
be a focus really that's just poured into the defense.
And you you want George Pickens, I don't necessarily like
(24:23):
the analogy that I used was eating for us is needed,
Like you need to eat, Okay, the luxury is it
that we get to eat wagoo.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
H that's the luxury we need to eat. You need
to eat to live.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
The luxury is that I don't want ground beef today.
I want wagoo and I can afford it. I have
the I have the luxury to go and get it.
So that's what you have with George Pickens. It's you
need wide receivers. But if you want George Pickens.
Speaker 9 (24:59):
In that group, and the thing is, and the thing
is I see from an offensive line standpoint. The advantage
of having George pickins. I do because if we keep George,
he comes in and plays this year. Now we can
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stay as eels at the tackles. We can stay as
els with the tight end helping the tackles. If George leave,
people understand me now, it's gonna happen.
Speaker 10 (25:33):
If George leaves, that elevates.
Speaker 9 (25:36):
If you don't replace him, whether a more than capable person,
that elevates you number two, you're number three to number two,
that brings your tight end back into play, That takes
the tight end from sixty percent of helping one of
the tackles to these tackles. Gotta stand tall in the
NFC East and then listen, go out there and look
at the NFC East. It ain't playing, it's getting better.
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Or by the moment, we won't be able to stand
up in this great quarterback that is elevated it seven
to the top ten, maybe elevating itself somewhere else. If
George leaves and we cannot replace that, I'm not I'm
not the battle, y'all.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
That's fair.
Speaker 9 (26:15):
I'm not fit the battle, y'all. Should we pay George
or should we not pay George? I'm telling y'all, if
we don't keep George and we don't get somebody that's them,
because it'll be back CD and them, the stress gonna come.
And all the great escapes that Dak was making, well
he had to escape just one guy. He's gonna be
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escaping two or three guys and it ain't gonna have
him all year.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
That's fair, that's fair, that's fair, and I'm and I'm
good with. Here's where I'm at with this team and
the way that business as usual because they're doing some
things different.
Speaker 8 (26:54):
This is one thing. Please don't, as a fan do
this different.
Speaker 6 (26:59):
Fine, if you let him walk, I would love to
see him in CD for the next couple of years
and see what they can do with with with the
Dack in his prime, a decent too good offensive line,
a decent to good running back, and watch this offense
as is for the next two to three to four
or five years.
Speaker 8 (27:16):
Whatever that is. If you want to use that collater
on that money to go pay some defensive guys, I'm
good with that too.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
Just don't wait, don't get me to training camp and
may and not have this dude in there working with
the offense, wasting the first four weeks of the season,
getting in sync, learning the playbook, doing all this that, like,
like Nate said, work.
Speaker 8 (27:39):
What bothers me is we haven't talked yet.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Haven't we learned our lesson with that we need if
we want this guy, we want him in camp. We
don't need him holding out and then learning as we go.
The first we saw what burning the first four weeks
of the season can do. Right, Let's don't do that.
Sign him or let him walk, and then at least
you know what you have going forward. And I'm good
either way. I'd love to see him here. You want
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to go spend that somewhere else, fine, but don't don't
drag this thing out to where And you know it's
part of its negotiation. I get that, part of its
leverage and all that, But why so what you save
a few million dollars here and there.
Speaker 8 (28:18):
If that's the dude, you won't go get him. They
don't grow on trees either, right.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
You know, quarterbacks, wide receivers, they don't grow on trees.
He's the top ten at least receiver in this league.
Speaker 8 (28:29):
You can't just go get those dudes. So I mean,
just make your mind up. Let's go.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
It's just signing him long term now also brings those
cap numbers down. So what gives you more money to
go out there and spend on, you know, because a
couple And that's the part about if you had done
this earlier in the year, you don't lose those guys
that you were after that went to the Vegas Raiders
that went to the Klendar Panthers, because you would have
had that capital. You would have had that capital to
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spend because his number would have been so much lower
per year. And but that's neither here nor there.
Speaker 9 (29:03):
They just in Shannon, let me ask you this question
because I've been about this and I finally found a
word of what I've been trying to get for year's.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Team building.
Speaker 10 (29:19):
Can you build a better team by letting George walk?
Speaker 11 (29:26):
You know?
Speaker 9 (29:26):
Because like I said last year, it's two only two
ways we could have did the green Bay thing. To me,
the guy that went to Green Bay, it's only two
ways we could have did this. Either paid this guy
and go out and got get him some help. So
we wouldn't even be having this discussion because then you
would have had a top rated defense, right And so
now that it's a great offense with George Pickings, you
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don't know how far you to win. Well, this kid
walked away and it really damaged the defense. So now
you got is George Pickings in CD and Dak and whatever,
but you can't win any games because you have no defense.
If we lose George Picking, we have to continue to
build our team with guys that can play B plus
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B players we don't need. Last year, we had eighty
percent of our team C players C plus. The way
they play. I'm not saying these players' ability was C plus.
It could have been better, but the way they play,
we just had a bunch of seeds running around and
it showed with our record. If we lose this kid,
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what do you see us? Where do you see us
man as wide receiver, as tight ends?
Speaker 10 (30:41):
What do you see us?
Speaker 9 (30:42):
Are we gonna be a better team, or at least
we can we duplicate what we got last year from
the offense, it's gonna drop off a cliff.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
No.
Speaker 7 (30:50):
I think with Dak Prescott, as long as he's healthy,
you're gonna have a good offense. Okay, he's shown you
that over the last five years. I told you earlier.
You know, the last five years. When he's healthy, it's
the offense's top ten. The one year in twenty twenty
four he got hurt in like Week eight or nine
and missed the rest of the season and everything went downhill.
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But when he's healthy, that's the biggest thing. When he's healthy,
When you have a healthy quarterback, you have a chance.
So if that means that George Pickens goes somewhere else
and you get those assets back, the team building part
is going to get the players on the defensive side,
that's going to help you out. Dak can make up
a multitude of sins with his ability. See he can
(31:33):
go off for sixteen seventeen hundred yards. We've seen it.
You would hope that Ryan Filinoyd has stepped up his
game and now can move in to that number two spot.
And there's still some veterans heams that you can go
out there and get to fill in that role. You know,
it's one hundred different ways to skin a cat. Right,
I can go get you, I can go draft another
tight end and now you know have another athletic tight end.
(31:54):
I can go and get twelve hundred yards from two
or three people. You know what I'm saying, like I
can go get ten touchdowns from two people. Again, it's
a It's a multitude of ways to skin a cat
and offensively as long as your quarterback is healthy. Defensively,
if you don't have the guys that can go out
there and make plays for you seven nine to one,
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good luck.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
See we.
Speaker 9 (32:18):
And I understand. I love the Star stars who I am.
That's why I can leave all these crazy things. Hey man,
I'm around the world thanks to the Star, right, and
that's real. But we're the only team in the world.
I'm gonna ask you this, a simple question. Is a
kicker world for ten million dollars only in Dallas? Only
(32:38):
in the Star We ain't say here when you stop
us here, I mean just think now you think Pittsburgh
will be arguing about a kid, Hey man, we gotta
get a second round tender. We've been to play a
kicker at least seven million dollars a year.
Speaker 10 (32:58):
I ain't saying that.
Speaker 9 (33:00):
If he get it, I'm gonna be I'm gonna hang
out with him a little bit, you know, for real.
I mean, I'm gonna learn his name, and I'm gonna
expect for him to make seventy and eighty yard kicks.
Speaker 10 (33:12):
I am.
Speaker 9 (33:13):
If you're gonna give him that, I'm gonna expect. I'm
gonna expect that. If this game is on the line,
there's three seconds left and we down three seventy yarder,
I want it made. If you're gonna give him that
type of money. As a fan, I can't, I can't
expect that. Expect whatever you want, but it may not
be real.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
But Nate Newon, you can expect whatever the hell you want.
Speaker 8 (33:37):
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Speaker 8 (36:21):
Twenty four seven. All right, I have a question.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
Look, we were talking about George Pickens and this thing,
getting to this franchise tag, getting to training camp, him
possibly not playing, and then getting right down to the
season before he has to hold out or do whatever
he does if he doesn't sign the franchise tag. How
much of an impact did when Michael was here and
(36:51):
we saw the whole dog and Pony show We know
it affected one guy on the defense that was on
the team at the time it disrupted, and you know, Jesse,
you saw it in person and talked about, you know,
Trayvon and Micah hanging out at practice over here, and
(37:11):
Trayvon didn't seem as interested once. It was probably well
before that, but it really got noticeable when Micah started
having his drama and he was not interested and then
that trickled down to Trayvon And that was just what
we saw with our eyes right And how many other
people in the locker room did that maybe effect? And
(37:33):
calls behind closed doors drama disruption affect the defense. And
the reason why I'm asking is because if the pickings
thing goes down and you do this again, does it
cause ripples? Does it cause lack of concentration? Does it
cause splits in locker rooms when things like that happened?
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Yeah? Sure absolutely.
Speaker 7 (37:56):
What one of the first things that you've realized is
in these type of moments is the NFL is a business.
We sit here on this show many many time and
tell you that your last name does not match your
last name on the people who's.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
On your checks.
Speaker 7 (38:09):
You're not family. It's not family. It's a business. But
then what gets down to it is the locker room
is such a unique environment. There are white, Black, Indian, Asian, Hispanic,
whatever it is. There's there's believers, non believers. There's Christians, Catholics, Atheists, Buddha, well,
(38:32):
whatever it is. It's it's some that come from two
parent house ords it something come from one parent. It's
a it's a it's a mashed up unit that all
come together for one purpose to win football games. So
when things begin to get out of whack is when
the people that are involved are impacting our ability to
win football games or to or or to come together
(38:57):
and practice and prepare to win football games. Because there
is a trickle down effect. When George doesn't show up
to Nate's point earlier, now the tight end has to
go and become more of a viable option, which means
he has to pull away from helping the tackle, which
means now the tackle might be out there on an
(39:18):
island by himself, which means that said tackle might get
beat more often than not. Now he's upset because now
they were talking about how he didn't got beat because
he don't know he no longer has that help, right,
now the wide receiver and the tackle couldn't be too
further apart. It couldn't be more further apart, but it's impacted. Okay,
(39:41):
then you have the other guy who is the tonight's
point again, the rumber four wide receiver becomes the number
three wide receiver. But now I start questioning the thing
of you know, I'm getting a fair shot today because
he's not here. Will you give me that fair shot
when he comes back. Now I'm a little bit jaded
about that because I was here all OTA's and here,
(40:03):
all mini camping, here, all training camp busting my butt,
practicing through injury, learning multiple positions, taking the beating of
doing what it is that we do. But then when
he all of a sudden comes back, now I get
pushed by the wayside. Again, that's the business part of
it all. So it begins to have these ripple effects
because guys are looking around and they're like, you know,
I'm in a contract here or I'm in the tell
(40:25):
end of my career, and damn I want to win.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
And so there's this there is this necessary.
Speaker 7 (40:33):
Understanding that has to be had because it is a
business and yours and company and others need to take
care of their business of it. But the other guys
are saying who may not even who may not have
come to the business portion of football yet, or who
have done the business portion of football yet and got
their bread and now are trying to win. They're looking
around like, come on, dog, damn. You know what I'm saying,
(40:57):
I don't want.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
To get to the season.
Speaker 7 (40:58):
Now.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
We two three games in and we one and you
weren't there. That's when the division happens.
Speaker 7 (41:04):
That's when the guys look around there going man, they
let him do what he wants to do, and this
guy gets to doing what he wants to do, but
I can't do. So there's always that little bit of that.
You know, you have a group text, then you have
a side group text. You know what I'm saying, there's
a couple of guys who click up on the side
of that and.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
Have the conversation.
Speaker 7 (41:19):
So these things stuff, they have a ripple effect, and
when it starts impacting other guys' ability to do their
job correctly, and that ultimately impacts their ability to make money,
that's when things be get a little bit rocky and
it's gonna be a distraction. We if George Pickts is
not at training camp. I'm gonna tell you what, Jesse,
(41:40):
look at this camp right here, when George Pickts doesn't
show up to training camp, Jesse Holly, every single day
when I get on my show, when we go Hanging
with the Boys and one of my other mini shows,
we're going to be breaking down and dissecting what's happening
in the passing game every day. When I get a
chance to interview coach Shotimer, Dak Prescott, Ceedee Lamb, or
(42:03):
any other player that's involved with the Dallas Cowboys, Jesse
Holly is going to ask the questions about.
Speaker 4 (42:10):
George Picktts.
Speaker 7 (42:11):
When we go into the preseason games and Dak Prescott
is out there and the offense doesn't look like it's
functioning and flowing properly, Jesse Holly is going to ask
the questions about what if George Pickens was in the fold,
how is this going to every day? And what's gonna
happen is those owners, those coaches, those players, They're going
(42:34):
to get tired of Jesse Holly's and the Jesse Hollies
of the world asking questions about players who.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
Aren't in camp.
Speaker 7 (42:42):
Don't get mad at me. Don't get upset at me
because I have to ask the question when he is
not present. Now, if it goes great and it goes well,
I'm still going to ask the question, Well, if it's
going so great, do you actually need them? If it's
not going so great, I'm gonna ask the question. Going
so great, probably it's silent, right. So it creates the
(43:03):
It creates this level of distraction that people have to
answer for that are not George Pickens, especially if he's
not even present, that people will have to answer whether
they want to or not, whether they want to hear
me or you or Nate or anyone else talk about
it and they jump in our DMS or they send
somel abiminal messages or they see me in the hallway
(43:23):
and they roll their eyes at me.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
So be it.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
This is what happens.
Speaker 7 (43:27):
This is what we have to do as now as
media is ask the question about said player, whether he's
here or not here, and how that impact. That's the
ripple effect, that's the distraction that those guys have to answer.
Speaker 8 (43:40):
Please don't make Jesse work that hard. Get this man
signed or.
Speaker 6 (43:45):
Or let him or let him go.
Speaker 8 (43:47):
Don't let's don't have this scenario playout.
Speaker 4 (43:49):
Drag it out norag it out?
Speaker 2 (43:51):
No.
Speaker 4 (43:51):
I love I love the content as a content, drag it.
Speaker 8 (43:54):
Out as a fan.
Speaker 4 (43:55):
I don't want that drag it out.
Speaker 8 (43:57):
I want to have my team not over go.
Speaker 6 (43:59):
Have we have we in recent years, the last six
seven years, had our team as we wanted.
Speaker 8 (44:09):
No, no, fully in training camp as a group. Nope,
without one major player.
Speaker 9 (44:15):
I know one thing we cannot do. Brother, what I
transpired last year out there in training camp.
Speaker 4 (44:24):
That was a joke.
Speaker 9 (44:26):
Here you got a head coach trying to do everything
he can to motivate eighty or ninety guys to do
the right thing, and too too, and these guys are
going they and then you get a guy walk out,
one guy with his shoes off, chilling, the other dude.
Speaker 10 (44:47):
Bowl of cereal, chilling.
Speaker 9 (44:50):
Laying on the training table, you know, going doing drills,
going over there talking to the linebacker coach or the
d line coach that I'm just I'm at a distance
looking like this. Hang on, I'm saying in my mind,
they either got to hurry up and do something or
(45:10):
this is gonna implode.
Speaker 10 (45:15):
We've been through this. I'm talking about the Cowboys.
Speaker 9 (45:17):
Do you want this again. Do you want to see
a guy walk out there? You know and the and
the wide receiver. Coach ain't gonna ignore him if he Hey, coach,
got about let you a minute, he can be in
the middle of a drill.
Speaker 10 (45:32):
Hey coach, y'all what you think about this?
Speaker 9 (45:34):
You think he's gonna ignore him, even ignore him like
this dude couldn't ignore Michael.
Speaker 10 (45:41):
Like the defensive back coach didn't ignore the other kid.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
Who Yeah.
Speaker 9 (45:45):
Then I'm saying to myself, come on, man, can't you
I want to walk and say, brother, don't you see
them practicing once you go inside?
Speaker 10 (45:53):
Won't you?
Speaker 9 (45:53):
You know this is me thinking, like, go inside, go somewhere, brothers,
don't stand out here and not do nothing. I don't
want to go through that again as a fan.
Speaker 7 (46:02):
Well, buckle up, natean you're going through it again this year.
Just telling you, unless unless the only thing happens, you'll
you'll you'll be you will be going through that again
this year.
Speaker 6 (46:13):
In the words of the Great Nate Newton, Lord Jesus
all right and the fellas, good stuff, Jess, Nate, Kurt,
take care of your butt, get back next week.
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We save most of the questions for you to participate in. Chris,
thanks for keeping us on the air. No cookies for
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Right week?
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Good week?
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How was your how was your break last week?
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Love hearing from you.
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How was your how's your week?
Speaker 10 (02:40):
Yeah, one of the few times I called just back
to back.
Speaker 9 (02:43):
He he ignored me the first day, but he called
me back to late that night and I got into
him the next day.
Speaker 10 (02:48):
You know, he cursed us.
Speaker 9 (02:50):
I'm not saying it's a curse, but he called something
out a couple of weeks ago. And I'm gonna let
just you finish. You tell him, You tell him it's
a guy that plays for the University of Tennessee. I
hope I got this right. Yeah, he hurt his knee
a year ago and missed all of last year. What
is his name, Jesse Gerard McCoy.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
You know what.
Speaker 9 (03:12):
I got a call yesterday they said, hey, Jeron McCoy,
did it is pro Day? And I'm like, oh, I'm thinking, okay, man,
he probably hurt himself. I'm thinking, you know that that's
bad to think. I'm like, well, he probably heard hisself.
Speaker 10 (03:23):
And the dude saying, hey man, he ran a four
to three.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Now you know what that means, right?
Speaker 10 (03:28):
What you know the cowboy in the draft to du right, and.
Speaker 7 (03:35):
If you want to know more about that boy, Kurt.
He's one of the people that's getting that dives into
this at the start. All the draft guideline, the twenty
twenty six draft got am I saying that, right, it's
Kurt a part of this.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Yeah, yeah, out of that. So yeah, so go pick
this up.
Speaker 7 (03:50):
You can get it online, you get it at your
local stores. I don't know if that's true or not,
but I'm sure you can get the local stores.
Speaker 10 (03:56):
Made that shot, but pro shot, you can order it.
Speaker 9 (04:00):
That guy, that guy at the bottom, they say he
got short arms, but it don't look like it to me.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Which one? We'll pick that up?
Speaker 9 (04:09):
Kurt.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Make sure all the spelling was right in this our
boy he did, all the pictures match. Yeah, because you
don't want to mix up black guys. We all don't
want to like, you're not.
Speaker 8 (04:21):
Off to a great start.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
That a personal thing. This is kind of sometimes we
always bring the personal stuff to the public. Ways. Have
you guys called Nate lately called Nate? Do we need
to you need to machine need to hear this voicemail?
Speaker 7 (04:41):
I can I can smell give me a second epic
and it only could be done by Nate. First of all,
the fact that Nate still leaves a personal voice message
on the voice smail normally everyone just don't don't we
go like, you know, you get the you get the
generic computer. You know number you have called? No no no,
no no no it's not available. Please leave no no,
(05:02):
no no no. Not not for Nathaniel Nutan.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
He leaves a personal let me guess I get I bet.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
He says something to the effect of, you've reached the
voicemail of Nathaniel Newton.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Whatever you think, whatever you think, it is not you're
not prepared for.
Speaker 10 (05:20):
You're not.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
And then on his personal line, he tells you that
they will call you back. That's the what I love
the most. He put They put him and the wife
you on there, they gonna call you back.
Speaker 8 (05:33):
Okay, we gotta hear this.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
It's the greatest voicemail you've ever heard.
Speaker 8 (05:37):
Are you ready?
Speaker 12 (05:38):
Chris?
Speaker 7 (05:40):
In twenty twenty six, it's I called him message. I
was like, this dude still has he is the.
Speaker 8 (05:48):
Don't answer.
Speaker 10 (05:49):
No, I'm not going.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
I'm telling you we're sorry.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
We are unable.
Speaker 8 (05:59):
Oh me in a second.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
On back there?
Speaker 7 (06:03):
Yeah, but what Chris gets back to what we'll jump
back in there. But it's I called him yesterday. I
called him back because I always have. I always tell
Nate because when you speak to Nate one, it's always
a privilege when he calls you. But there's all there's
there's there's one or two things are happening. Nate's gonna
call you and say exactly what he wants to say,
doesn't care about your tork hang up, or you're gonna
(06:27):
talk for a little while. And so my, uh, my
mode of operation when I talk to Nate is if
I don't have at least twenty minutes to give to.
Speaker 10 (06:36):
Him number Chris Christy as Chris, he can't call me.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
What are you doing back there, Chris?
Speaker 10 (06:47):
I thought I just called him.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
We'll get It's on the group text. We'll get it. Yeah,
I've tried to call it twice. It's the number I have.
Speaker 9 (06:55):
You change your number, call me, Jess. I'm about to
call him, man, I hope my number change on AI.
Speaker 10 (07:03):
There. It is Jesse, Holly, Jesse it Holly.
Speaker 8 (07:09):
Hello, this is Nate News.
Speaker 9 (07:11):
Y'all know what I'm doing this time of the year.
Speaker 8 (07:13):
I could be up from Washington.
Speaker 10 (07:14):
In the corner to your left hand side or floida
down to your right hand side.
Speaker 9 (07:18):
I'm on the road, baby, I'm moving.
Speaker 11 (07:20):
I may knock on your door, and I may knock
that you leave your name and number and a brief message,
and me and Michelle will.
Speaker 13 (07:27):
Get back with you.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
I'm telling you we love you, but I'm.
Speaker 11 (07:29):
Road hogging, baby.
Speaker 10 (07:31):
Hey, name and number, May God bless you. Tod Tomad.
Speaker 8 (07:37):
Road hall, road name, road Hall, road Hall.
Speaker 10 (07:42):
Yeah, I need to create a song for that.
Speaker 7 (07:44):
I said, it's got to be the great. I was like,
I was so shocked. I was going out to hang
up till I heard his voice. I was like, let
me see what this guy got to say. That's You're amazing, Bro,
You're amazing.
Speaker 8 (07:54):
I've been having fun.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Yeah, road hog, road hall, road hall for to call
the boys up front row? Howks?
Speaker 14 (08:01):
I love it?
Speaker 8 (08:03):
Where have you been the last two weeks?
Speaker 9 (08:05):
Uh, I'm gonna tell you what I did the other day.
I just felt I had to see this dude in
North Carolina. So I jumped in the car and I
got the Sweet Home Alabama. It looks a sweet home Alabama.
Then next science said Tuscy Loose. I got halfway, I
turned around and came down. Why I want to come
(08:27):
back home? You feel feel I liked it for a minute.
Speaker 10 (08:31):
I liked it for like eight hours, and then the
next ten I'm like, no, I don't like him that much.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
That's crazy.
Speaker 10 (08:38):
You need to go see our guy up in DC
that wants to see you.
Speaker 8 (08:40):
Remember, Oh yeah, Barrington.
Speaker 9 (08:43):
Remember Okay, after this week here, after next week, I
got to get out a serious start because we got
some church things or either got to help my sister
in law or move one of the other I gotta do.
Speaker 7 (08:52):
So you help people move, that's a good man. I
don't ever call me the Nope, that's one of my
least I will send you.
Speaker 9 (08:58):
Know, but that's that's the debate money, whether it's money
the truck. I will send you money. Yeah, I'm not
helping you move. I don't ever don't ever call me
to ask you to move, because the answer is no.
But if you say, hey, I need a couple doll
for a mover, I got you.
Speaker 8 (09:15):
I remember that.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Don't call me.
Speaker 9 (09:17):
I said to my wife and said, we got to
make a decision to either help her move or let's
give her a little jack, you know.
Speaker 10 (09:23):
So yeah, I got he's up that last half.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I have PTSD for moving
because when I was fourteen, I counted we had moved
sixteen times. Man, all in the same little Yeah, pretty
much in the same little mama circuit.
Speaker 10 (09:43):
Well, bring that stuff over, you can walk over to
the next trailer park.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
Didn't even pack pack, we just put it on at
it on a little flat man up.
Speaker 11 (09:54):
Wow.
Speaker 9 (09:54):
But you know what, man, but you've you've you've grown bro.
I mean, what's the last time you move? It's been forever. Now,
been in the same apartment a while.
Speaker 10 (10:03):
Now there's a house. I got a house that You've
been in the same house for a while. He's still
you still to say, Lord, this a faver whole.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
No, maybe this was gonna be.
Speaker 8 (10:15):
This was gonna be for a while.
Speaker 9 (10:17):
Yeah, hopefully I met somebody that knows your wife's father.
I don't know where I was to say, hey, you
know Shannon. I said, yeah, well his dad is and
we were somewhere. I meant to go, oh at the
car dealership. Yes, yeah, I heard I heard you on that.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Yeah, you buy a car in this economy, life is good.
Speaker 10 (10:35):
No, No, I was just gassing through his visiting looking
for Hey, Nate, what can we do for you? Make
me feel like Jesse, Holly, that's a good feeling. Like,
what's that? Give it to me.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Yeah, that's a good feeling. That's a good feeling.
Speaker 10 (10:50):
Jes like es.
Speaker 8 (10:53):
If you tell me in more ways than what hey, cash,
I'll take donation.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
I'll tell you donation, donation.
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I thought the.
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Yes, all right, let's take a break, a little early break,
and see when we get this thing back on track,
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This way the whole We do ano a lot going
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To Hanging with the Bulls, Welcome back to the second segment,
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on the show this week. Thank you for more reasons
than one, but one main reason is so we can
talk about the wide receiver that it looks like he's
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gonna play on the franchise tag or hope is he
gonna put I don't think. I think you're gonna find
yourself in a in a sea situation similar to Micah
if you let this thing get to camp under the
franchise tag. I don't personally, I don't have any insight.
(14:11):
I just don't think he's there's too much history there.
There's an agent there that's hinted around that he's not
gonna they don't want that. I don't think he's gonna play. Now,
we'll see when the season starts, but I don't think
he's going to be in camp and participate in camp
under the franchise tag. Do you think this thing's gonna
(14:32):
ride out to the beginning of the season and do
you expect to see if this is the way that
the Cowboys go, do you expect him to be in camp?
Speaker 8 (14:45):
So Pickett were talking about George trus Pickett.
Speaker 7 (14:47):
Let me let me first start by saying this because
we sometimes when we talk about this particular agent, David
mulu Ghetto and this recent let's just say will struggle
between the Jones and David marlu Guetta, there isn't an
agent in the National Football League that wants their client
to play under the franchise tag.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Let me be clear with that now.
Speaker 7 (15:10):
Drew Rosenhaus, not Todd France, not you name it, not
Nicole l In, not whoever, all the power brokers of
this and why is that one? Because they want long
term deals and they want their client to have long
term deals. They want their client to get the most
money they possible can because in return guys like George Pickens.
When you're their agent, you get the maximum, which is
(15:32):
three percent. An NFL agent can't get more than three
percent on a contract, a football contract. Now, marketing all
that stuff, that's different, but three percent, right, So they
get a long term deal, their client is locked in
that three percent for them is a higher number.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Everyone's happy. Everyone gets paid.
Speaker 7 (15:49):
Year to year deals don't give you the leverage and
the comfortability that you want. Okay, So that's what the
franchise tag is. It's a year to year deal. Yes,
it's some guaranteed money, but if the thing goes to
hell in that one year, it's gonna be hard to
build that thing back up, whether it's be you know,
performance based and or injury based. So no, there's no agent.
(16:09):
This is not a David ma Lugetta thing. This is
no agent in the history since Jerry Jones and Company
implemented the the the the salary cap, and the franchise tag,
no agent wants to client on the franchise tag. They
do it because it's a part of the collective bargaining agreement,
but they will prefer not to. That being said, Secondly,
(16:32):
Jerry Jones, mister Jones spoke to the to the media
outlets at the NFL's owner meeting whatever it was, in
Phoenix a couple of days ago, and in his conversation,
if you're putting the pieces together, reading in between the
tea leaves, he is very clear about the franchise tag
is where they're going now.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Why hadn't said yet?
Speaker 7 (16:51):
He hadn't quite said yet, But he seems as if
that they have not talked as far as negotiations with
the agent she always.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Referresd to as the agent never's name.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
They haven't negotiated at all, So that franchise tag is
in place for that very reason.
Speaker 10 (17:11):
That leads to me.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
That leads for me to believe that if you haven't
even begun negotiations with that now, maybe you could do
it in a week, Maybe you can do it a
couple of day.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
I don't know. But up to this point, there has
not been a single.
Speaker 7 (17:24):
Conversation since George Pickts has become a Dallas cowboy this
time last year about negotiations. That tells me that they're
planning on having George Pickts play under the franchise tag
at least for this year and potentially for two years.
That'll roughly be about a two year, sixty million dollar
deal in the two years. When you put these two
franchise tags together, and to the common folk, that sounds phenomenal.
(17:50):
Sixty million dollars guaranteed for two years work. Where do
I sign up? But in the realm of NFL spaces,
that's not where I want my client to be. Jerry
in Company feels as though they're giving him a fair
shake with the franchise tag. David Maloguetta and his representation,
(18:12):
George Pickers and his reputation David Malouetta feel like we deserve.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
A long term deal.
Speaker 7 (18:18):
I told you guys this a couple months ago when
I got a chance to speak to directly David Malogetta
in a restaurant, no other media members around, just he,
I and two of my guys. He made it very clear.
He made it very clear that playing on the franchise
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tag is not something he's looking for he and or
his client to do. You go back and you do
the history. You can't find under the unbrella of David Maloguetta.
A client that has played an NFL season under the
franchise tag, not a thing that he wants to do.
So this is going to be one of those up moments,
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and it doesn't. He's not going to be at unless
the contract gets done. He's not coming to ot Is
in Mini Camp because that's the only levers that he has.
He's not showing up to that.
Speaker 8 (19:11):
Now.
Speaker 7 (19:11):
There's been some talks that he is working with Dak Prescott.
Oddly enough, I'm not saying that he isn't. I'm saying
that every time we hear about guys working with Dak Prescott,
there's some sort of video, there's some sort of pictures
of it. I hadn't seen it. Now, maybe I just
missed it, but I hadn't seen it. I saw a
picture of today, a couple of them, of he and
Jake Ferguson working together. We live in a day and
(19:31):
time now where guys always want to put out there
there working. Hadn't seen that yet. Not saying that it's
not happening, but they keep saying that this is happening.
Haven't seen it yet. I highly doubt, highly highly doubt,
and I'm willing to put a lot on it. He
won't be at mini OTA's all that office and activities.
I highly highly doubt if a deal is not done
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by training camp that he'll be in ox Star California
for training camp. That's just not the way that it's
going to work. And this it's gonna be one of
those things that literally go up to the seconds before
the season begins. And with you coming into year two
of this offense and off the heel of what they
did last year, you would want these guys to be
(20:14):
in place to kind of take that next step. It's
gonna have to be done without George Pickens's president unless
they can get a deal done.
Speaker 8 (20:23):
M what are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Buckle up?
Speaker 11 (20:26):
You know.
Speaker 9 (20:26):
And one thing I love about Jess and a few
guys that when he said he talked a directly to that.
Speaker 10 (20:33):
Man, this is what this man is saying.
Speaker 9 (20:35):
I'm gonna bleed this man. And you know, I'm not
one of those guys that's gonna say, well, what I
gather from what Jesse.
Speaker 10 (20:45):
Said, it's the truth. It's truth.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
I'm just telling you what I what came out of
the mouth of the man. You know, Jerry talks about
talking to the principle I talked to literally face to face,
and this is what came out of that conversation that
the franchise tag is and that's not breaking news, but
it's not something that they plan to play on.
Speaker 10 (21:11):
The thing will happen is we'll get the training camp.
Speaker 9 (21:15):
Let's say, uh, this kid signs the tag so he
don't have to go through, you know, a year of
lost salay. Let's just say he signs the tag and
he show up the training camp and this cycle repeats itself,
(21:35):
that happened a year ago. Do you want that for
your team?
Speaker 14 (21:39):
Absolutely not, because it's going to be a distraction. Yeah,
So I'm just I believe this that, Uh, do you
want this kid?
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Right?
Speaker 9 (21:51):
If you don't want this kid, get something and move on.
If you want this kid, let's don't push to the hill.
We don't have to, but we're not the powers up above.
But if you want him, let's to do something. If
you don't want him, get something and move on.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
And see what you're saying, Nate, two things can be true.
Do you want him, sure? Do you want him at
your price? That's the difference is we want them, but
we only want him at our price. And you know
I did it earlier today and we talked about George
Pickens because it was a topic that came on TV
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earlier this morning.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Is he a necessity or is he a luxury?
Speaker 7 (22:35):
And when you think about it, like when you just
think about it, And this is not saying that anyone
does not want George Pickens. He's absolutely a luxury to have.
This team has been successful without George Pickens record wise,
league wise, like numbers offensively, they did it with Ceedee Lamb,
(22:56):
Brandon Cooks and Jaylen Tobert as your three receivers and
they had a number on offense in the league. You
know what I'm saying, Like they've done it before where
Ceedee Lamb has been more than enough for this offense
to be successful. Again, I'm not saying that I do
not want George Pickens. I am saying that he is
a luxury to have, and I think the Cowboys viewed
(23:19):
as that as well. I've long said this. When the
Cowboys made the trade with Pittsburgh for George Pickens, they
didn't have a contingency plan. They didn't have a plan
for what if he blows up in a good way,
like a man spoken at a gas station, I'm about
to blow up. But they didn't have a contingency plan
(23:41):
for that. They hoped that he would be a missing
piece to get this thing over the hump. But you
finished seven nine to one. So you had this prolific
season fourteen hundred yards, ninety three catches, nine touchdowns, but
she was seven nine to one.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
You didn't the playoffs. So something that's.
Speaker 7 (24:02):
Really that happened really good didn't result in the things
that you wanted it to because of the lack of
defense that you didn't have. And so there have to
be a focus really that's just poured into the defense.
And you you want George Pickens, I don't necessarily like
(24:23):
the analogy that I used was eating for us is needed,
Like you need to eat, Okay, the luxury is it
that we get to eat wagoo.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
H that's the luxury we need to eat. You need
to eat to live.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
The luxury is that I don't want ground beef today.
I want wagoo and I can afford it. I have
the I have the luxury to go and get it.
So that's what you have with George Pickens. It's you
need wide receivers. But if you want George Pickens.
Speaker 9 (24:59):
In that group, and the thing is, and the thing
is I see from an offensive line standpoint. The advantage
of having George pickins. I do because if we keep George,
he comes in and plays this year. Now we can
(25:20):
stay as eels at the tackles. We can stay as
els with the tight end helping the tackles. If George leave,
people understand me now, it's gonna happen.
Speaker 10 (25:33):
If George leaves, that elevates.
Speaker 9 (25:36):
If you don't replace him, whether a more than capable person,
that elevates you number two, you're number three to number two,
that brings your tight end back into play, That takes
the tight end from sixty percent of helping one of
the tackles to these tackles. Gotta stand tall in the
NFC East and then listen, go out there and look
at the NFC East. It ain't playing, it's getting better.
(26:00):
Or by the moment, we won't be able to stand
up in this great quarterback that is elevated it seven
to the top ten, maybe elevating itself somewhere else. If
George leaves and we cannot replace that, I'm not I'm
not the battle, y'all.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
That's fair.
Speaker 9 (26:15):
I'm not fit the battle, y'all. Should we pay George
or should we not pay George? I'm telling y'all, if
we don't keep George and we don't get somebody that's them,
because it'll be back CD and them, the stress gonna come.
And all the great escapes that Dak was making, well
he had to escape just one guy. He's gonna be
(26:37):
escaping two or three guys and it ain't gonna have
him all year.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
That's fair, that's fair, that's fair, and I'm and I'm
good with. Here's where I'm at with this team and
the way that business as usual because they're doing some
things different.
Speaker 8 (26:54):
This is one thing. Please don't, as a fan do
this different.
Speaker 6 (26:59):
Fine, if you let him walk, I would love to
see him in CD for the next couple of years
and see what they can do with with with the
Dack in his prime, a decent too good offensive line,
a decent to good running back, and watch this offense
as is for the next two to three to four
or five years.
Speaker 8 (27:16):
Whatever that is. If you want to use that collater
on that money to go pay some defensive guys, I'm
good with that too.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
Just don't wait, don't get me to training camp and
may and not have this dude in there working with
the offense, wasting the first four weeks of the season,
getting in sync, learning the playbook, doing all this that, like,
like Nate said, work.
Speaker 8 (27:39):
What bothers me is we haven't talked yet.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Haven't we learned our lesson with that we need if
we want this guy, we want him in camp. We
don't need him holding out and then learning as we go.
The first we saw what burning the first four weeks
of the season can do. Right, Let's don't do that.
Sign him or let him walk, and then at least
you know what you have going forward. And I'm good
either way. I'd love to see him here. You want
(28:05):
to go spend that somewhere else, fine, but don't don't
drag this thing out to where And you know it's
part of its negotiation. I get that, part of its
leverage and all that, But why so what you save
a few million dollars here and there.
Speaker 8 (28:18):
If that's the dude, you won't go get him. They
don't grow on trees either, right.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
You know, quarterbacks, wide receivers, they don't grow on trees.
He's the top ten at least receiver in this league.
Speaker 8 (28:29):
You can't just go get those dudes. So I mean,
just make your mind up. Let's go.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
It's just signing him long term now also brings those
cap numbers down. So what gives you more money to
go out there and spend on, you know, because a
couple And that's the part about if you had done
this earlier in the year, you don't lose those guys
that you were after that went to the Vegas Raiders
that went to the Klendar Panthers, because you would have
had that capital. You would have had that capital to
(28:57):
spend because his number would have been so much lower
per year. And but that's neither here nor there.
Speaker 9 (29:03):
They just in Shannon, let me ask you this question
because I've been about this and I finally found a
word of what I've been trying to get for year's.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Team building.
Speaker 10 (29:19):
Can you build a better team by letting George walk?
Speaker 11 (29:26):
You know?
Speaker 9 (29:26):
Because like I said last year, it's two only two
ways we could have did the green Bay thing. To me,
the guy that went to Green Bay, it's only two
ways we could have did this. Either paid this guy
and go out and got get him some help. So
we wouldn't even be having this discussion because then you
would have had a top rated defense, right And so
now that it's a great offense with George Pickings, you
(29:48):
don't know how far you to win. Well, this kid
walked away and it really damaged the defense. So now
you got is George Pickings in CD and Dak and whatever,
but you can't win any games because you have no defense.
If we lose George Picking, we have to continue to
build our team with guys that can play B plus
(30:14):
B players we don't need. Last year, we had eighty
percent of our team C players C plus. The way
they play. I'm not saying these players' ability was C plus.
It could have been better, but the way they play,
we just had a bunch of seeds running around and
it showed with our record. If we lose this kid,
(30:35):
what do you see us? Where do you see us
man as wide receiver, as tight ends?
Speaker 10 (30:41):
What do you see us?
Speaker 9 (30:42):
Are we gonna be a better team, or at least
we can we duplicate what we got last year from
the offense, it's gonna drop off a cliff.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
No.
Speaker 7 (30:50):
I think with Dak Prescott, as long as he's healthy,
you're gonna have a good offense. Okay, he's shown you
that over the last five years. I told you earlier.
You know, the last five years. When he's healthy, it's
the offense's top ten. The one year in twenty twenty
four he got hurt in like Week eight or nine
and missed the rest of the season and everything went downhill.
(31:12):
But when he's healthy, that's the biggest thing. When he's healthy,
When you have a healthy quarterback, you have a chance.
So if that means that George Pickens goes somewhere else
and you get those assets back, the team building part
is going to get the players on the defensive side,
that's going to help you out. Dak can make up
a multitude of sins with his ability. See he can
(31:33):
go off for sixteen seventeen hundred yards. We've seen it.
You would hope that Ryan Filinoyd has stepped up his
game and now can move in to that number two spot.
And there's still some veterans heams that you can go
out there and get to fill in that role. You know,
it's one hundred different ways to skin a cat. Right,
I can go get you, I can go draft another
tight end and now you know have another athletic tight end.
(31:54):
I can go and get twelve hundred yards from two
or three people. You know what I'm saying, like I
can go get ten touchdowns from two people. Again, it's
a It's a multitude of ways to skin a cat
and offensively as long as your quarterback is healthy. Defensively,
if you don't have the guys that can go out
there and make plays for you seven nine to one,
(32:15):
good luck.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
See we.
Speaker 9 (32:18):
And I understand. I love the Star stars who I am.
That's why I can leave all these crazy things. Hey man,
I'm around the world thanks to the Star, right, and
that's real. But we're the only team in the world.
I'm gonna ask you this, a simple question. Is a
kicker world for ten million dollars only in Dallas? Only
(32:38):
in the Star We ain't say here when you stop
us here, I mean just think now you think Pittsburgh
will be arguing about a kid, Hey man, we gotta
get a second round tender. We've been to play a
kicker at least seven million dollars a year.
Speaker 10 (32:58):
I ain't saying that.
Speaker 9 (33:00):
If he get it, I'm gonna be I'm gonna hang
out with him a little bit, you know, for real.
I mean, I'm gonna learn his name, and I'm gonna
expect for him to make seventy and eighty yard kicks.
Speaker 10 (33:12):
I am.
Speaker 9 (33:13):
If you're gonna give him that, I'm gonna expect. I'm
gonna expect that. If this game is on the line,
there's three seconds left and we down three seventy yarder,
I want it made. If you're gonna give him that
type of money. As a fan, I can't, I can't
expect that. Expect whatever you want, but it may not
be real.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
But Nate Newon, you can expect whatever the hell you want.
Speaker 8 (33:37):
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I have a question for you guys, stay tuned, be
right back.
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Speaker 8 (36:21):
Twenty four seven. All right, I have a question.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
Look, we were talking about George Pickens and this thing,
getting to this franchise tag, getting to training camp, him
possibly not playing, and then getting right down to the
season before he has to hold out or do whatever
he does if he doesn't sign the franchise tag. How
much of an impact did when Michael was here and
(36:51):
we saw the whole dog and Pony show We know
it affected one guy on the defense that was on
the team at the time it disrupted, and you know, Jesse,
you saw it in person and talked about, you know,
Trayvon and Micah hanging out at practice over here, and
(37:11):
Trayvon didn't seem as interested once. It was probably well
before that, but it really got noticeable when Micah started
having his drama and he was not interested and then
that trickled down to Trayvon And that was just what
we saw with our eyes right And how many other
people in the locker room did that maybe effect? And
(37:33):
calls behind closed doors drama disruption affect the defense. And
the reason why I'm asking is because if the pickings
thing goes down and you do this again, does it
cause ripples? Does it cause lack of concentration? Does it
cause splits in locker rooms when things like that happened?
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Yeah? Sure absolutely.
Speaker 7 (37:56):
What one of the first things that you've realized is
in these type of moments is the NFL is a business.
We sit here on this show many many time and
tell you that your last name does not match your
last name on the people who's.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
On your checks.
Speaker 7 (38:09):
You're not family. It's not family. It's a business. But
then what gets down to it is the locker room
is such a unique environment. There are white, Black, Indian, Asian, Hispanic,
whatever it is. There's there's believers, non believers. There's Christians, Catholics, Atheists, Buddha, well,
(38:32):
whatever it is. It's it's some that come from two
parent house ords it something come from one parent. It's
a it's a it's a mashed up unit that all
come together for one purpose to win football games. So
when things begin to get out of whack is when
the people that are involved are impacting our ability to
win football games or to or or to come together
(38:57):
and practice and prepare to win football games. Because there
is a trickle down effect. When George doesn't show up
to Nate's point earlier, now the tight end has to
go and become more of a viable option, which means
he has to pull away from helping the tackle, which
means now the tackle might be out there on an
(39:18):
island by himself, which means that said tackle might get
beat more often than not. Now he's upset because now
they were talking about how he didn't got beat because
he don't know he no longer has that help, right,
now the wide receiver and the tackle couldn't be too
further apart. It couldn't be more further apart, but it's impacted. Okay,
(39:41):
then you have the other guy who is the tonight's
point again, the rumber four wide receiver becomes the number
three wide receiver. But now I start questioning the thing
of you know, I'm getting a fair shot today because
he's not here. Will you give me that fair shot
when he comes back. Now I'm a little bit jaded
about that because I was here all OTA's and here,
(40:03):
all mini camping, here, all training camp busting my butt,
practicing through injury, learning multiple positions, taking the beating of
doing what it is that we do. But then when
he all of a sudden comes back, now I get
pushed by the wayside. Again, that's the business part of
it all. So it begins to have these ripple effects
because guys are looking around and they're like, you know,
I'm in a contract here or I'm in the tell
(40:25):
end of my career, and damn I want to win.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
And so there's this there is this necessary.
Speaker 7 (40:33):
Understanding that has to be had because it is a
business and yours and company and others need to take
care of their business of it. But the other guys
are saying who may not even who may not have
come to the business portion of football yet, or who
have done the business portion of football yet and got
their bread and now are trying to win. They're looking
around like, come on, dog, damn. You know what I'm saying,
(40:57):
I don't want.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
To get to the season.
Speaker 7 (40:58):
Now.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
We two three games in and we one and you
weren't there. That's when the division happens.
Speaker 7 (41:04):
That's when the guys look around there going man, they
let him do what he wants to do, and this
guy gets to doing what he wants to do, but
I can't do. So there's always that little bit of that.
You know, you have a group text, then you have
a side group text. You know what I'm saying, there's
a couple of guys who click up on the side
of that and.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
Have the conversation.
Speaker 7 (41:19):
So these things stuff, they have a ripple effect, and
when it starts impacting other guys' ability to do their
job correctly, and that ultimately impacts their ability to make money,
that's when things be get a little bit rocky and
it's gonna be a distraction. We if George Pickts is
not at training camp. I'm gonna tell you what, Jesse,
(41:40):
look at this camp right here, when George Pickts doesn't
show up to training camp, Jesse Holly, every single day
when I get on my show, when we go Hanging
with the Boys and one of my other mini shows,
we're going to be breaking down and dissecting what's happening
in the passing game every day. When I get a
chance to interview coach Shotimer, Dak Prescott, Ceedee Lamb, or
(42:03):
any other player that's involved with the Dallas Cowboys, Jesse
Holly is going to ask the questions about.
Speaker 4 (42:10):
George Picktts.
Speaker 7 (42:11):
When we go into the preseason games and Dak Prescott
is out there and the offense doesn't look like it's
functioning and flowing properly, Jesse Holly is going to ask
the questions about what if George Pickens was in the fold,
how is this going to every day? And what's gonna
happen is those owners, those coaches, those players, They're going
(42:34):
to get tired of Jesse Holly's and the Jesse Hollies
of the world asking questions about players who.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
Aren't in camp.
Speaker 7 (42:42):
Don't get mad at me. Don't get upset at me
because I have to ask the question when he is
not present. Now, if it goes great and it goes well,
I'm still going to ask the question, Well, if it's
going so great, do you actually need them? If it's
not going so great, I'm gonna ask the question. Going
so great, probably it's silent, right. So it creates the
(43:03):
It creates this level of distraction that people have to
answer for that are not George Pickens, especially if he's
not even present, that people will have to answer whether
they want to or not, whether they want to hear
me or you or Nate or anyone else talk about
it and they jump in our DMS or they send
somel abiminal messages or they see me in the hallway
(43:23):
and they roll their eyes at me.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
So be it.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
This is what happens.
Speaker 7 (43:27):
This is what we have to do as now as
media is ask the question about said player, whether he's
here or not here, and how that impact. That's the
ripple effect, that's the distraction that those guys have to answer.
Speaker 8 (43:40):
Please don't make Jesse work that hard. Get this man
signed or.
Speaker 6 (43:45):
Or let him or let him go.
Speaker 8 (43:47):
Don't let's don't have this scenario playout.
Speaker 4 (43:49):
Drag it out norag it out?
Speaker 2 (43:51):
No.
Speaker 4 (43:51):
I love I love the content as a content, drag it.
Speaker 8 (43:54):
Out as a fan.
Speaker 4 (43:55):
I don't want that drag it out.
Speaker 8 (43:57):
I want to have my team not over go.
Speaker 6 (43:59):
Have we have we in recent years, the last six
seven years, had our team as we wanted.
Speaker 8 (44:09):
No, no, fully in training camp as a group. Nope,
without one major player.
Speaker 9 (44:15):
I know one thing we cannot do. Brother, what I
transpired last year out there in training camp.
Speaker 4 (44:24):
That was a joke.
Speaker 9 (44:26):
Here you got a head coach trying to do everything
he can to motivate eighty or ninety guys to do
the right thing, and too too, and these guys are
going they and then you get a guy walk out,
one guy with his shoes off, chilling, the other dude.
Speaker 10 (44:47):
Bowl of cereal, chilling.
Speaker 9 (44:50):
Laying on the training table, you know, going doing drills,
going over there talking to the linebacker coach or the
d line coach that I'm just I'm at a distance
looking like this. Hang on, I'm saying in my mind,
they either got to hurry up and do something or
(45:10):
this is gonna implode.
Speaker 10 (45:15):
We've been through this. I'm talking about the Cowboys.
Speaker 9 (45:17):
Do you want this again. Do you want to see
a guy walk out there? You know and the and
the wide receiver. Coach ain't gonna ignore him if he Hey, coach,
got about let you a minute, he can be in
the middle of a drill.
Speaker 10 (45:32):
Hey coach, y'all what you think about this?
Speaker 9 (45:34):
You think he's gonna ignore him, even ignore him like
this dude couldn't ignore Michael.
Speaker 10 (45:41):
Like the defensive back coach didn't ignore the other kid.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
Who Yeah.
Speaker 9 (45:45):
Then I'm saying to myself, come on, man, can't you
I want to walk and say, brother, don't you see
them practicing once you go inside?
Speaker 10 (45:53):
Won't you?
Speaker 9 (45:53):
You know this is me thinking, like, go inside, go somewhere, brothers,
don't stand out here and not do nothing. I don't
want to go through that again as a fan.
Speaker 7 (46:02):
Well, buckle up, natean you're going through it again this year.
Just telling you, unless unless the only thing happens, you'll
you'll you'll be you will be going through that again
this year.
Speaker 6 (46:13):
In the words of the Great Nate Newton, Lord Jesus
all right and the fellas, good stuff, Jess, Nate, Kurt,
take care of your butt, get back next week.
Speaker 8 (46:23):
We save most of the questions for you to participate in. Chris,
thanks for keeping us on the air. No cookies for
the Big Boy to back, be next back.
Speaker 10 (46:30):
Next week, Stop, same time, Stop with that man the
same place.
Speaker 8 (46:34):
Yeah, hanging with the boys.
Speaker 4 (46:35):
We out You're a stop.
Speaker 7 (46:37):
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