Joe Sib - Touring with Jim Breuer, Opening for Metallica, DIY Comedy Grind + MORE - Hot Breath! (Learn Comedy from the Pros)

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Welcome back to Hot Breath.
I am your host, comedian JoelByers, and we are all about comics
helping comics here, which ishow today's episode came to be last
year here in Atlanta.
Hot Breath Jimmy Crump gave metwo tickets to see Jim Brewer live
at center stage.
I brought hop breather JimChappell along with me.
John Chappell.
He's going to kill me forgetting his name wrong.

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But long story short, afterthe show we snuck into the VIP line,
got to meet Jim's opener andJim himself.
John then books Jim's opener.
John perform here in Atlanta.
And tonight, my guest today isalso performing with a gym back here
in Atlanta.
We are all on the mission ofcultivating the next generation of
self made comics and our guesttoday is definitely one of those.

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So please welcome to the hotbreath of our hot Brethren and sister,
Mr. Joe Sib.
Welcome.
I just remembered that we metin that line.
Yeah, we, we kind of, we kindof snuck into it.
We, we just didn't have our.
Everyone had their badges andwe just kind of did.
And we just kind of stoodthere like this and went to the very
back of the line.
I remember you guys dipped inand I went out there and everyone

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has their VIP thing on and youguys were kind of sliding in.
And then you guys rolled up tome and you're like, hey, you know,
do you think we could meet Jim?
And I was like, well, yeah, Imean, if, if you got the meet and
greet, you're like, well,we're comics.
And right away I'm like, yeah,you can meet.
Yeah.
And I remember at the end, asyou guys were rolling up, you know,
I was like, jim, these guysare comics.
And like, his whole Personatotally shifted from like, from like,

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hi, nice to meet you.
Can I take the photo?
Move along.
And as soon as he found outyou guys were.
And not that he's not likethat, he's super, you know, obviously
cool with all the fans.
I don't want anyone to get bummed.
Right.
Hey, I met Jim and he doesn'tlike me.
No.
But I could tell as soon as heknew you guys were comics, like,
his shoulders, like dropped.
He's like, what's up?
Yeah.
He hung with you guys for a while.

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Yeah, we stood there andtalked for a while.
Yeah.
And that's what I've learnedfrom doing comedy for so long and
then also interviewing so manycomedians on here is there is just,
there's an instant rapport wehave with each other that no matter
the level, when you meetanother Comic.
It's always like, oh, of thesame, the same ilk.
The word that I been hearing alot is when people say, you know,

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when you meet someone that'snot a comic, you call them like a
civilian.
Yeah.
And I was like, really?
Are we going to compare beinga comic to the military?
Like, I definitely am notworried about, like my car exploding
because I've told a bad jokeor something, you know, or something
terrible happening, so.
But lately I kind ofunderstand why people use that analogy,

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because when you do findsomeone that's a comic, at least
for me, whether they're anopen micr, just starting out, they're,
you know, someone that's beendoing it forever.
There is.
And it's funny because eventhe comic that's huge in, in me,
that meets the comic that'snot huge, they immediately kind of
have this connection andwhether, and I, you know, I've been
fortunate to meet so manygreat comics and there is just this

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common bond, no matter whothey are, where they are in their
career, that they're justlike, oh, you're a comic, I'm a comic.
And then immediately you dropinto talking about, you know, oh,
dude, did you roll through,you know, such and such club that
Green Room has?
Or if you're really close, howdid it happen for them?
What are they doing?
You know, it's like you justimmediately everyone starts talking,
you know, and talking aboutmaterial and it's, it's.

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I love it.
It is definitely, it feels.
When you're a comedian andyou're dealing with new comics and,
and older comics, there isthis connection that is some sort
of strange underworldcommunity that is only understood

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by the people that are doing it.
Yeah.
Because I've, I've had friendsand you know, even relationships
with people that, that theyjust don't understand.
Why would you go to Slow Brew,Slow Pour, you know, on a pouring
night and Tuesday, you know,and do a, do a set, you know, at

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this restaurant, slash bar,slash comedy club, and you're like,
because that's what I want to do.
And, and I've thought aboutdoing it all day.
You know, that's comedy.
It's like, that's all I thinkabout all day long.
Yeah.
You flew in a day early or youcame in a day early to do John's
show last night, which was incredible.
Yeah.
I don't know about incredible.
So generous.
It was incredible for John.

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It was, I was going to say itwas incredible for John for having
me and generous for, for himto have me There.
And it was a killer room.
I don't know Nick's last name.
Nick.
And Billy opened up.
Nick.
Oh, Billy Willig.
And.
And I'm not sure.
I wasn't there, so I'm not sure.
But Nick, he's from Atlanta.
Black hair, goatee, Super.
I know who you're talking about.
God, we got to get his namebecause he was so killer.

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He is.
I've done several shows with him.
Yeah, so he does the HerschelWalker joke.
He does a great.
Just great material.
Starbar a lot.
Yeah.
Joel, if you can.
We got Joel on the ones andtwos over here.
The producer's name is Joel.
I feel like when you seeRogan, look it up.
I know.
I can't believe I'm forgettinghis name because he is very funny,
and he's one of, like, the.
The biggest comics here in Atlanta.

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Yeah.
Super funny guy.
But everyone was great on the show.
And then.
And then the.
The.
The best part about it wasthere was actually, like a real crowd
there.
So.
Yeah, I was really psyched for it.
But, yeah, I mean, that's what you.
Nick Murphy.
There you go.
Nick Murphy.
Yeah, he was great.
Yeah, he's very funny.
Super funny.
He has a very stoic voice.
Like, when he was talking tome, I was like, wow, I wish I had

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a voice like that.
Like, he does not use thewords like and dude and bro.
Like, he just bomb fires away.
And he has.
He has a joke about his dadbeing in Qanon.
Did he do that last night?
No.
So funny.
I just love.
I love watching a comedian andyou learn about them and it's authentically
them, and you get a feel ofwho they are and where they came
from.
I definitely got that feelingfrom him.
Yeah, he definitely does that.

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Yeah, he was.
He was great.
He's one of those comics, too,that, like, I was watching his set
because he went on before me,and I knew that he was doing really
well and that I was enjoyingit because I forgot that I had to
do a show.
Yeah.
And I suddenly, like, justbolted out of there.
I'm like, okay, I can't watchhim anymore.
I'll get in my head.
Yeah, yeah.
I'll start going like, okay,there's no way I can.

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Why am I here?
Okay.
I can't follow that.
You know, I just.
You start.
You'll.
You'll even think that now.
Oh, totally.
Really?
Yeah, all the time.
Like, the self doubt.
Yeah.
Even when I was taking a leakbefore I came up here, I, like, looked
in the mirror all Right.
You can do.
You know, I don't know, I just get.
Sometimes you just get in your head.
I don't know if it's because Idrink too much coffee or.
I mean there could be anxiety from.
Yeah, you know, I don't know.

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Yeah, I think, I don't know.
I think when you.
Not that I have self doubt,like, oh God, I can't pull it but
you know, as you just.
I think for me personally, Ialways want to deliver at a certain
level.
I always want to come out andget on stage and do the best that
I can.
So for me, a long time ago, Ilearned when I, I used to think when

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I first started, I shouldwatch everyone set.
Like I'd be on a show withlike, you know, as all of us, 10
people, right?
Yeah.
And you're in the middle oryou're at the beginning or you're
at the end.
And I would felt oh as respectbecause I came from like a music
background.
When you were in a band, youknow, if you open for someone, you
watch them, they watch you,you load your gear up and you leave
at the end of the night.
I thought in comedy it was thesame way.

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But what I realized was whatwas happening was watching all those
comics, I realized why othercomics don't watch comics.
Not out of disrespect, butyou, you a, you get in your, you're
getting in your mindset of howyou're going to deliver your material.
And for me, if you watch toomany other people, you may start
taking certain characteristicsof their delivery or their, their

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perspective and you mightunknowingly go on stage and kind
of take on one of their characteristics.
And that was a suit, that wasa fear of mine because I was like,
oh, wow, if I sit there andwatch 10 people before I go on, I'm
gonna get lost in their material.
Some of it's really good, someof it's really bad.
But I don't want that tohappen when I hit the stage.
So now I understand why you goto a comedy club and there's comics

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in the back of the room orcomics all over the club, not watching
the comics.
And that was a real.
For me, like I said, comingfrom music and, and coming from a
community of, you know, notthat comics don't support each other,
but they're more in their head.
And I, I was coming from acommunity of like, hey, we're all
here together.
We're all, you know.
And that took me about likefive years to understand.

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It's not people being rude toone another.
It's just I got to be in mymoment and I got to be in my headspace
to get up on stage to do whatI do.
And that's why, like, youknow, how many times have you met
a comic that you love and offa stage, they're so different than
they are on stage, becausewhen they hit the stage, that's them
on stage, and when they're offstage, they're a totally different
person.

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Yeah, I almost do the oppositewhere I, I do watch the show.
A lot of comics will hang outbefore the show, and I found when
I do that, I almost get it allout before I get on stage.
So I'm being silly with othercomics and now I'm not silly on stage.
So there's like a balance.
Well, like, for me, that part,the riffing, the riffing backstage,
I love.

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Like if we're all backstageand we're in a room and we're all
joking around and tellingjokes and, oh, dude.
And you know, we're justtelling, you know, we're just riffing
with one another, not running bits.
I don't like, I don't likewhen you're hanging out with comics
and you go, are you running abit on me right now?
You know, I once, I once was.
I once was with this comicthat I love, Dom, a legendary guy,

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legend.
And when I.
My first gig, My first gig.
So I, I started in Hollywood, right?
And my first gig.
So I, I went up to the ComedyStore and I started later.
I was 40 when I started.
How long you been doing it?
I've been doing it.
I. I always get.
I think it's either my 15th or16th year.
I think I'm 16 years.
But before that I did a oneman show.

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And I did that one man showfor, like, did that one man show
for five years.
Oh.
And then the, the one man showmorphed into wanting to do standup.
And so it's like, you know,and I've just always been on stage.
Yeah.
I mean, you were the lead singer.
I was a singer in a band at 10years old.
I was a magician.

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That was like the first.
I'm not making it.
Like, that was like, that'smy, that's my.
That was my first time on stage.
I was, I was 10 years old.
I was really into magic.
My dad and I would, we.
I saw the movie Houdini, thisold Tony Curtis movie from back in
the day, and I was just like,oh, my God.
Like, like, to me, like,magicians were like, the first rock

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stars, you know, for me,because, like, their posters are
so metal looking.
Like, if you look at oldHoudini posters and magicians from
that era, they're all that.
Like, there's all these, like,devil and like.
Like they're in.
You know, like, they'reunderwater or they're like, you know,
in chains.
I mean, it's so.
It's so, like, early, like,Metallica, you know, metal.

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Like, it's just very metal.
Which, you know, I didn't knowit obviously, at the time, but kid,
I was drawn to magic.
And, like, how would thesecomics do this?
You know?
You know, there was this onecomic, though, Doug Henning, who.
Who totally, like, wasn't anyof that.
He was like, more likerainbows and like.
Like flowers and stuff.
Total hippie dude.
I loved him.
My dad took me to see him.

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That was my first time evergoing to a big, big event.
And we went to Tahoe inCalifornia or outside of California,
and my dad took me to that.
And that was my first timegoing backstage.
That was my first time meetingsomeone that was on stage.
And, you know, magic waseverything to me.
So at 10, I was really into magic.
But that.

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That kind of was my step into,like, getting on stage.
And then at a certain point, Iwas just like, I gotta put away the
scarves, because I wanted tomeet girls.
There was right around seventhgrade, I realized, you know what?
Chicks aren't into this.
You met a girl with a scarf,you're like, let me show you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You disappear.
Yeah, it's very.
It was very theatrical all the time.

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So around seventh grade, I waslike, you know what?
I'm out.
And I.
You know, the thing.
The thing for me, though, waslike, getting into music and, you
know, like, you just said,like, coming from that background
of punk rock, I think one ofthe things that drew me into standup
again, because when I got intostandup at 40, you know, people,

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it was funny.
A lot of the.
I felt like some of my peersin music were kind of bummed at me
a little bit.
Like, why.
Why aren't you gonna pick upan acoustic guitar?
Like we have, you know, and not.
Not bummed at me, but just.
You know what?
I should take that back.
They were.
I think they were just maybeworried for me.
That's.
That's what I'd say.
Because.
Midlife crisis.
Yeah.
Or just.
Or just, like, when you tellsomeone you're gonna do stand up,

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it's just.
It's.
It's because what you'resaying is, I think I'm so funny that
I should, you know, be onstage with a microphone, and I'm
hilarious, and.
And, you know, you could befunny off a stage and.
But I think some of myfriends, especially in bands, because
I'd been in music my wholelife, you know, I. I was in my first
band at 17.
You know, I'd been on tourfrom the time I was 17, you know,

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all the way.
I've always been on tour.
Yeah.
And.
And I.
And I think you.
You play music with people.
So when I told people I wasgoing to do stand up, a lot of people
were supportive because theywere like, oh, my God, you're way
funnier than you are a singer.
And I was like, really?
Wow.
Okay.
I didn't.
Didn't think of that.
But.
But.
But the gu.
Loved.
You know, I could see the lookon their face when I would tell them,

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I want to do comedy.
They were.
They were a little like.
They were.
You could see the sense of,like, is everything okay?
Are you going through something?
I was like, no, I really wantto do stand up, and they're okay,
you know, And I just knewthat, like, I was a singer.
Like, you know, I couldn'tpick up the acoustic guitar and.
And make that my.
Make that my passion, where alot of my friends, you know, went

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on to do that, and they'rereally good at it.
And I was like, you know what?
I'm not gonna be able to do that.
I got to figure out adifferent way to get on stage.
And that was.
That's why I chose the path ofstand up.
And I remember when I startedback to the store, I'd go up to the
store, and I just, you know,Comedy Store in Hollywood.
And I remember it was kind ofhanging out, and I was friends with
Pauly Shore, him.

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And I.
Or I was in a movie that he was.
That.
I was Biodome, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So.
So I was in Biodome.
And I know a lot of you guysare recognizing me from that, so
we were in Biodomo, and it wascool because Paulie always had a
really.
When I.
When I met him in Hollywood,he was.
He's always been so cool tome, like, to this day.
That's great.

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He's just always been a solid.
You know, we're not tight.
Like, we roll together, but,you know, we'll text each other here
and there.
I ran into him when I was inMaui once, and I remember I was in
Maui, and it was like, he wasthere and, and I was with, you know,
I was with my girlfriend atthe time.
And she's.
She's like, hey.
You know, she kind of put meon the spot.
Like, hey, Paulie Shore's here.

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You know him, right?
And I'm like, yeah.
And she's like, well, he'ssitting right behind you.
And I'm like.
And it was that moment like,like, how's he gonna.
You know, we're in public andI turn around, he's like, joseph,
he's like, super, get overhere, buddy.
You know.
But he was the one that got meinto the store to do it, to do us,
to do a show.
And I was doing my one man show.
And he was, he was like, hey,man, I heard you do a one man show

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about music.
It has music cues, it has all that.
He goes, my mom built the main room.
She was still alive at that time.
Mitzi was still alive.
He goes, you should really doyour show here.
And he sussed, you know, hereached out to me because I was doing
the one man show all over Hollywood.
I hadn't done it there.
So I went up to the ComedyStore, I did the show there and it
went great.
And then I was like, hey, Iwant to come up and do what about,
like, if, you know, come hereand do spots.

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And I remember I went up thereto do some spots and to try to get
in the mix up there.
And I started meetingdifferent comics.
One of the first guys I metwas Sandy Danto.
He like literally walked mearound the club, introduced me to
everyone.
I met Brody Stevens that same night.
Brody was really.
He was.
He went out of his way to becool to me.

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He could tell I was totallyout of my element and just was like,
hey, Joseph.
And I had.
I used to do this joke aboutPMA positive mental attitude.
And at the time, you know, that.
That was his whole vibe.
Like, gotta be positive.
So he really.
Him and I bonded kind of overthat and.
But I knew at the time, thestore just like, I just didn't feel
like a connection there in thesense that I just.

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The time you have to put in.
And a comic named Eric Griffin.
Yeah.
Who's.
Who I was really good friendswith and actually like gave me feature
spots when I first started.
He.
He said to me one night, he'slike, you know what, man?
This just ain't your place.
You know, you're not gonna.
Not ain't your place.
Like, people don't like you,but just Joe, you know, you're.
You're older, you got a wife,you got kids, they're young.

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You're.
What are you gonna do?
Hang out here every night foryour five minutes at 1:00am and he's
like, I just don't.
You know, I don't think, youknow, you're really.
You don't have the time, norshould you put it in here, because
it might not be the place for you.
And that's when I went downthe street to the.
To the Laugh Factory, andJamie Masada was the.

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Was the first guy to be like,all right.
You know, I actually kind ofgot in there in a weird way because
I was doing radio at the sametime, and he was like, buddy, we
are going to be doing a.
We are doing I love Jamie impression.
Do people do that?
How was that one?
No, that was great.
Yeah, Buddy, he used to alwaystouch my face.
I remember I was at aChristmas party once and he just

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came over to me.
He goes, buddy, slap.
I'm like, dude, and he'sslapping me, telling you, why do
you have a beard?
You must shave that beard.
It's terrible.
It.
Shave it.
And your clothing is terrible.
Why do you.
Wearing that just wanders away.
And okay, I remember one timeI went on stage and I got up, he's
all, buddy, your energy, Ilove it.
Hosting, you're.
Oh, my God, your material.

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Terrible, terrible material.
And I was like, he goes, youneed to write with people.
You.
There's no way.
You just need to write withpeople, you know?
But he was always.
As I kept going, he always would.
He put me up as hosting.
And I didn't know at the timethat people looked down at hosting.
Oh, they're great reps. No,but I didn't.
Yeah, I didn't know.

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That's what I thought.
I was like, I want to host.
And everyone's like, And Iremember the comics in la, no names
mentioned.
They're like, I don't host, man.
What, dude?
What's going.
I wouldn't host.
There's no way.
I don't host.
And I remember.
I remember, like, well, I'lldo it.
You know, I was like, I get tobe on stage five times in one night.

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And I knew not to, like, bethe guy that's a punisher, like,
just doing material in between.
But I also knew if I had agerm of an idea, which any comic
watching right now, man,hosting is the best, because you
can take out a germ of an ideathat you wrote and you don't really
know the premise of the joke.
And where it's going, but yougo up on stage and you.
You throw.
You know, in between bringingup a comic and, you know, kind of

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resetting the room, you throwthat idea out.
If it gets a laugh, you can goright back to your notebook and be
like, whoa, okay, this is.
This is a premise I reallybelieve can work.
And I did that for two yearsat the Laugh Factory, easily.
That's great.
Yeah.
And I got really lucky, too, because.
Because Jamie.
Jamie would have me host.
And then ultimately, I endedup doing a show once a month there.

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There was a booker there thatteamed up with the radio station
I was on at the time.
I was on this station called 98.
7 in LA.
And they were like.
I had this punk rock showcalled Complete Control, and they.
The people from the LaughFactory called the radio station.
We want to do a show.
And do you have any DJs therethat are comics?
And the woman that ran thestation, she did a solid.
She's like, yeah, we have thisguy named Joe Sibling.

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So that was how I got into theLaugh Factory.
Oh, wow.
So then, like, I was hostingmy own show, and at the time, the
Laugh Factory was just put,you know, I. I mean, that's how I
met Bill Burr.
That's how I met Eric Griffin.
That's how I met Dane Cook.
That's how I met Chris d'.
Leah.
That's how I met.
I mean, everyone that.
Dave Chappelle, everyone.
I mean, everyone was comingthrough that show, and I was the

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host.
Michael Richards, you know,that was.
He had already.
He had already done.
It already happened.
He'd already done his set.
He was still.
He was still.
I don't know if you were therefor that.
No, I wasn't there for that.
Yeah.
I've obviously watched it.
Yeah.
And I love Dave Chappelle'sbit about it.
So good.
Yeah.
At the Laugh Factory.
At the Laugh Factory.
He has that green shirt on.
It's legendary.
So good.
Yeah, it was being in thatmoment and getting to watch all those

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comics go up on stage.
I used to just sit in this onebooth where, you know, the comics
would be getting ready to goon stage.
And you kind of sat in thisseparate booth at the, you know,
one end of the club.
And it was.
It was nights that I sat thereand just saw so many comics just
go up on stage.
And I really felt like I wasgoing to, like, college because I

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sat there with a notepad and Iwould write down every time I saw
it.
Like, I remember I was goingthrough My old notepad.
And I found this, this commentI wrote about Bobby Lee.
Like I knew who Bobby Lee was.
I'd never seen him do stand up.
And that was like a gamechanging moment for me, the first
time I saw Bobby Lee, becauseI'd never seen anyone that physical.
And it felt just.
He was it up as he was goingalong and he was just so in the moment

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and, and the abandonment thathe had and, and I was, I just, I
wrote down in my journal, likeeverything that I saw him doing that
night and, and that I lovedand that was.
Those were the nights therethat, that were so game changing
for me.
Because it's one thing towatch a video, but it's another thing
to actually see the art beingmade right there in front of you.

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And, and when you're so in,when you're early in the game like
that as a comic, because, youknow, at that point I was so new
to the game.
I.
But I was so full of, like Iwas a sponge.
I just wanted to watch everyone.
And I knew from being in bandsand from playing music that you need
to surround yourself.
Like if you surround yourselfwith great artists, then you're going

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to learn, you know, you'regoing to learn how to be great or
at least, you know, visualizeyourself going in that direction.
So getting.
I mean, when Dave Chappelle.
I remember, I remember I'd bethere and Dave would come in and
there'd be nights where he.
It was right when he came backand he'd come in and he'd come up
and you know, he'd be like,hey, man, you know how many more

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comics you have on the show?
And I'd be like, you know, wegot like three more.
And he'd be like, okay, canyou bring me up at the end?
I'd be like, okay.
And he's like.
And don't make a big dealabout it.
I like, I like the way youbring me.
Because I would never, youknow, I would never like go nuts,
right?
But I'd always be like,everyone turn their phones off.
If any cameras are up, you'reout of here.
But right now, this is why youcome to Laugh Factory.
Dave Chappelle.
People go nuts.

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And watching him.
I remember one night I was ata table and it was like, it was like
Matt Branger myself, Dane Cookwas there.
And I know, like, as peopleare watching this, like the haters
on Dane, but I have a GreatDane Cook story.
But like, Dane was always coolto me, always has been.

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So I Don't know.
Oh, dude, I.
He has always been nothing but cool.
Like, cool to the point oflike, just.
I don't know, just cool.
Just like.
Like, I don't know what it is,but he just always.
But there was one time wherehe said something super funny.
I'll get to that in a second.
But this one night, we're allsitting at the.
No, we're all sitting at this.
So Dave goes up on stage, andhe had been coming in and been doing

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like.
He'd been coming in and doing,say, like maybe 45 minutes.
And he'd always wait to theend of the night.
He never bumped anyone.
Which, once again, you see howthe greats work.
He doesn't.
He could have gone up when theplace was packed.
He's like, no, it's cool.
So he goes up there and Iremember he has a drink in one hand
and, dude, this is California.
He's smoking cigarettes on stage.
I was like, that is punk rock.

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Like, just smoking, drinking.
I'm like, damn.
And this particular night, hewent up there and he got on stage
probably close to 11, and hedidn't get off stage till about 2am
and I'll never forget, it was,like I said, Matt Brauner, myself,
Dane Cook, another comic.
I can't remember who the otherguy was.
And we all sat there and it was.

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It was surreal for me becauseI love Matt Brauner.
And I'm looking at Dane andI'm looking at.
And I'm just like, wow.
And every.
Every comic was just watching him.
And we watched him for, you know.
You know, 12, you know, almostthree hours.
And he.
He was.
That night, he was doingmaterial that he used in that.
That first special that hecame back with, and he was doing
that joke about buying.

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Buying ammo for a gun and howthe guy's like, what are you hunting
for?
And he's like, you know, I'mhunting for, like, are you hunting
for pheasant?
And he shows the little boxlike, no, are you hunting for this,
you know, deer?
He goes, no.
He goes, I'm hunting for,like, white men in, you know, orange
vests.
He's like, do you have any ammo?
And it was like that nightwhen he did it, it just crushed.
And it was so amazing to seethat on the special later on.

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But on that night, he.
What I loved, he.
He took so much time, and he just.
He sat in the silence andpeople started to.
And leave, not because theyweren't into him, but they had to
go to work.
And then when they'd get up,he would go, where are you from?
And, you know, okay, will youget home safely?
And, like, he was so in this.
It was very loose.
And it was strange because,you know, the other times I saw him,

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he'd go up and he would justmurder for 40 minutes.
Murder.
You know, like, murder,murder, murder.
And this time he wasn't.
It was like.
It was almost like, you know,100 people were having dinner with
him or something.
Yeah.
And he said something, Iremember at the end of the night,
you know, he gets up and hestarts putting his stuff away, and
he goes, you know, you allthought tonight was going to be a
fine china night, didn't you?

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He goes, it was more of apaper plate night.
And I was like, God.
And then he said, if anyonecomes out to see me, say that.
When you go up to get yourtickets, like, I'm.
It's.
I'm here for, like, the paperplate night, and you'll get in for
free.
Because he.
You know, I was kind of sayingto everyone, like, you know what?
Thanks for letting me work outwith you guys.
Yeah.
So that night, I go home andI'm just like, did I really watch

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Dave Chappelle just work andtalk and just.
It was almost like it was thebeginning of kind of what he does
now in his specials where itdoesn't have to be funny the whole
time.
So I was like, what a great moment.
About two weeks later, hecomes back or the next time I do
my show, and he goes up, totaldifferent vibe goes up and just took

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all the material that he haddone a month earlier and just.
It was tight now, and he just destroyed.
Just.
Just, you know, And I waslike, whoa, what a different.
And it was a shorter set.
You know, he just, boom, gotup, did his thing, bailed, did it
at the end of the night.
But it was so much like, that's.
Those are the moments thatI'll never forget.
And those were.
That was really what kind ofthe Laugh Factory gave me those opportunities.

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And a lot of people bag on,you know, the Laugh Factory and,
you know, whatever.
But I.
For me, you know, JamieMasada, he was there, you know, when
Mitzi and Bud and all thosepeople came.
And he's still there.
Yep.
And he could.
You can still find him at thefront door.
Hey, buddy.
You know, like, you know, hecalled me recently because it's funny,

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he calls me all the time.
Once in a while, he's like, Ihave a club in San Diego.
You know, everyone tells me,you Live there now.
You know, why don't you run it?
And I'm like, I don't know what.
I go, dude, I go, jamie,because by the time you say, I want
you to run the club, you'llalready be over with me and not into
it anymore.
By the.
You know, by next week, youknow, he's.
Oh, no, it's not the case, youknow, but I still have a Christmas

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gift he gave me.
He used to always.
He always would say, ladiesand gentlemen, that's like his way.
Ladies and gentlemen, Joseph.
He gave me this picture of a clown.
He's into clowns.
And dude, I immediately got it.
It was so scary.
I just wrapped it back up, putit so far in my garage, like, I don't
even know where.
It's so scary looking.
It's like a picture of a clown.
It's all.
It's all, ladies andgentlemen, Jose.

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I'm like, dude, like, loveyou, but this is scary.
This is weird.
This is weird.
It's.
It's not even a nice clown.
It's all.
It's.
So what's the Gacy guy from Chicago?
Oh, like William H. Casey, dude.
It's like, yeah, is this leftover from his collection?
Like, hey, buddy, you know, hecome in to do a set, he gives me,
you know, I was like, dude, Ido not want anything to do with this.

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But yeah, Jamie, he gave me my.
He gave me my first real, youknow, opportunity.
And then that led to the improv.
Because the improv down onMelrose, they were more like.
They were like, you know, itwas a new crew down there.
Rita was still there.
She still is there.
There was a woman, Paige,booking or like, there was just different

(27:58):
people, but this woman namedEmily, who's actually the Comedy
Store booker now, that was her first.
That was the first person thatlike, booked me a.
A regular spot.
Emily, who books the storenow, she gave me my first spot.
She came sawing me do my oneman show.
She was like a old or, youknow, she was younger.
She's younger than me, but shewas like a little punker.
She's like, I love Big D inthe kids table.

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I love side one.
I came and saw your one man show.
Would you ever want to do itat the improv?
And I was like, okay.
And then she was the first oneto say, hey, you know, what about
coming back?
And.
And it was the joke we weretalking about, you should come back
on a, you know, on a Thursdayand do seven minutes.
And I was like, seven minutes.
Like, I Can't even get the micout of the thing in seven minutes.
You know, like when someonesays seven minutes, you're like,
what?
Yeah, you know?

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And I remember the first timeI ever went up there.
I went up after one of theWayans brothers and he just destroyed.
And they're like, ladies andgentlemen, Joseph.
And I was just like, oh, my God.
And I remember all I wanted todo is just go up there and not suck.
That it would stand out somuch to ruin the vibe of the show.
And I remember I got off.
My friend was like, dude, youdid great.
I'm like, was it.
Was it funny?

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He's like, no, but, you know,you tried, so you survived, dude.
You were trying, you know.
I was like, okay.
He goes, no, no, no one even noticed.
You know, I was like, okay.
And that's when I didn't knowwhen you got the light, that the
light is like, you have aminute to wrap it up.
I was so paranoid of runningthe light that, like, when the light
went on, I would just bail.
I wouldn't even say goodnight.

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It's better to end early thango late.
No, but, you know, but, but, dude.
No, but I was like, I did itto the point where the club said,
dude, relax, when we give youthe light.
We asked you to do, you know,eight minutes, we're giving you the
light.
It's say, you know, seven, right?
You have a minute to wrap it up.
Okay.
They do the light.

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I'd be like, yeah, you know, just.
Thanks.
Just walk out, you know, And I.
Because I was so paranoid ofrunning the light.
I remember I was on a.
And yeah, it was just like,yeah, that was, that was something
that was always, always a trip.
But, yeah, so I know I was.
A great place to develop.
I would.
You know what, though?
I'll tell you this right now.
It wasn't a great place to develop.

(30:00):
Oh, no, no.
LA is not the place you want.
To start, but around all ofthose greats.
And that was the good part.
You know what?
That part was good.
Yeah, but the part that wasn't good.
And people told me this lateron and I didn't understand it.
They were like, you don't wantto get seen in a city like that too
soon.
And that's what happened to me.
Like, people, like, people sawme learning.

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So there was already a.
Like, there was already like,yeah, man, you know, you should put
Joseph on.
Yeah, I saw him.
And at that time, you know, I'm.
I'm a year in and you don'twant to be in a showcase room like
that a year in.
Yeah.
And that wasn't.
You know, I didn't carebecause I was older.
But looking back on it, like,whenever I run into a younger comic,
they're like, I'm going to la.
And I'd be like, all right, goto LA with.

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With.
Wow, this place is haunted.
That clown just came to life, dude.
That right there was like.
Like, I also feel like LosAngeles was like, quit talking.
Right, right, right, right.
Hey, bro, we've been good to you.
Okay.
Sorry, it was Mitzi, like,move on.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, what.
All I'm saying is this, like,I just, like.
What I'm saying is, is thatlike, if I.
If.

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And not that.
Dude, I got amazingopportunities from starting in la.
I mean, all the comics I justtalked to you about, I got to see,
I got to meet, I got to workwith all those comics.
All I'm saying is this.
If I was at a different pointin to la, and this is my advice,
if you move to a city likeAustin, you move to, like, right
now, Austin's the place.
I just went to Austin.
It was it.
Dude.
It's like.
It's like the gold rush there.

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I mean, it's.
It's crazy.
It's almost too much.
You're like, okay, everyone'shere, you know, I don't know.
And it's great.
And there's clubs and it's agreat vibe and I love it.
And I love that.
I love that Truck Stop Buc EE's.
So it's like, I'm into it, youknow, you can get beef jerky, barbecue,
a gun, and tires for your truck.
Like, America, go.
I love it.
But the thing that.

(31:46):
The thing that.
Running a.
Right now.
No, not.
I'm just kidding.
Did I tell you the Dom was the Dom?
I didn't tell you the Dom.
Not yet, no.
So come back around.
Okay.
Sorry.
I've had coffee.
It's all.
This is all.
I've never done drugs ever.
Even in your punk rock days?
Never.
So that's why caffeine affectsme, I think, so hard.
Interesting.
Yeah.
I've never did drugs.

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I tried smoking weed and I.
And I freaked out.
Yeah?
Yeah.
Well, you're missing out.
The run in the bit.
The run in the bit with Dom.
AA was.
Jamie was like, buddy, youknow, you go down to Long beach,
you open for Dom Herrera.
I'm like, really?
And he's like, yeah.
And I'm like, oh, my God.
He goes, you have to drive himdown there.
You make sure he gets back tothe club up here.

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You know, he likes to have acouple drinks.
You make sure you drive.
I'm like, awesome.
And Dom, I remember I pickedhim up and he was just so amazing.
He was so cool to me.
We had this other comic in thecar, Bill Dolls, I think.
Oh, Bill.
I just had him on.
Bill Dolls?
Yeah.
Redhead guy.
Yeah, dude, solid.
He.
Dude, talk about a funny guy.

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So I got.
I got these two, like, seasoncomic in my little Prius, and they're
just busting my balls thewhole way down there.
And all Dom wants to do islisten to the Beatles and talk music
and.
And just, you know, he was,you know, just so into that, and
I just loved it.
He knew that I was into music,you know, and that's the reason why
I think I got the gig to drivehim around, because he was like,
it's a music guy.

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So we get all the way downthere, and I remember we're.
We're talking and.
And I'm talking to him aboutsomething, and he looks at me and
he goes.
He goes, or this other comicson the show, and the comics talking
to Dom, and we're all sittingat the table, and just out of nowhere,
Dom goes, hey, are you runninga bid on me?
And I was like, dude, like,I'd never heard anyone say that.
And then on the way home, hegoes, I can't stand when you're with
people and they're running abit on you.

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Like, why would.
Why was this guy running a biton me?
And I remember I worked withDom a few more times, and I'd always
try to get comic advice out of him.
Of course.
Yeah.
But he always was like, hey,Joe, you know, hey, I'm gonna have
another drink.
You want something, though?
Hey, have a drink.
Okay.
Wait, you're driving.
You can't do.
Okay.
Goes, hey, let's get.
Let's go.
Let's.
Let's drive back to Hollywood.
We can make it for Last call.
And we drive back, he's like,hey, are you hungry?
Let's go to, you know, Green Blatts.

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I'm like, okay.
So the next, like, going outwith Dom, I wouldn't get home to,
like, three in the morningbecause he would, like, we'd go to
lunch, we'd go to.
We'd go to the club.
We watch all the comics.
We'd have a drink, then we'dhave a, you know, meal afterwards.
I drop him off.
He was just so solid.
But one night, I. I remember Idid a Show.
And I said, dom, you know, Iwant to.
I want to kind of pick yourbrain, you know, about.
I always want to ask questions.

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And he said to me, he said,yeah, sure.
And I go.
I said, you know, in my settonight, you know, what did you think?
And he goes, well, you know, Ilike this bit.
I like that bit.
And I go, yeah, I tried thatbit and it just didn't work.
He's like, listen to me.
And I said, hey, I got a question.
How many times do you try abit before you stop trying it?
And he gets all serious and hegoes, once.

(34:34):
Huh?
I go, really?
He goes, yeah.
I go, do you.
Do you mean that?
He goes, yeah, if you throwsomething out there and it's a full
room and it doesn't work, moveon, because don't.
And you know the other adviceI got from Eric Griffin?
Don't fall in love with your material.
Yeah, he used to always saythat to me.
And another thing Eric Griffinsaid to me once, because he was.
He was super.

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I'd kind of grind him.
And, you know, he was like,joe, Joe, it's too much energy.
Eric, I don't know.
I want to ask you a question.
He's like, what?
And he goes.
He goes, you know what yourproblem is?
He goes, yeah, you're gettinglaughs out there.
You're doing it.
He goes, your thing is, youdon't listen to the audience.
You're not listening to the audience.
And I'm like, what do you mean?
I listen?
He goes, no, you don't.
You don't listen.
And you know how long it tookme to figure out what he meant by

(35:15):
you're not listening?
Three years.
And what did he mean by that?
He meant that don't run your act.
Like, there's certain comics,you know, we all know Carlin wrote
everything down.
You know.
You know, Mulaney, he writesit all down.
You know, it's.
It's just so.
Just every word.

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Place like that.
That's amazing, right?
But they're also still in themoment while they're doing the material.
At least, you know, that's thefeeling that we all get.
What he was saying was, joe,you're doing a bit, and the bit that
you're doing, you haven't evenfinished delivering, and you're already,
I can tell, thinking of thenext bit.
You're not listening to the audience.

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Let them finish their laugh.
Let them, you know, see what else.
You know, listen to the laughand, you know, you know how it is.
It's like when you listen tothe laugh.
You can.
It also changes the directionof where you might go in your material.
Now, obviously, when you'restarting out, you only have so little
material.
So it's like a computer.
You only have so much on thehard drive.
As you get deeper into it, youhave more material.

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You know, I remember.
You know, that's why when yougo see a headliner, that's a true
headliner, and they do a fullweekend, you go to the full weekend,
you'll see three to fourdifferent shows.
Sure, maybe 40% of it's thesame, but 60% of it isn't.
That's a comic that has somuch material that they're.
They're reaching to and going to.
Whereas when you're startingout, you don't have that.

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So when I.
When Eric Griffin said to me,you're not listening, he wasn't saying,
you know, you're not listening.
You know, like.
Like I was being a dick.
He was just saying, you're.
You're not listening to theresponse you're getting.
You're not seeing theopportunities that the audience is
giving you.
You know, And I was like, itjust took a long time for me to realize
that all.
All of us, it takes years tohave the confidence and the material

(37:04):
to actually realize it's not amonologue, it's a dialogue.
And you say something, theirlaugh is the response.
And there's like an ebb andflow to it.
It just takes the flow.
It's the flow.
It's like, you know, it's allabout being in that flow.
You know, one time, you knowRita from the Improv, who's booked
everyone and been there foryears in Hollywood, I was.
I. I got done with a showonce, and I was like, I felt so good.

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And at the end of the night,she said, yeah, you know, Joe, Yeah,
it was good tonight.
It was good.
She's all, you know what, though?
But I don't know, where's the crazy?
I was like, what?
And she's like, just, I don'tknow, like, where.
Where's that?
You know where?
And I.
And that took me.
Like, I was like, what do youmean, where's the crazy?
I just.
I just had a great set.
And what she was saying, youknow, it took me a year to figure
that out.

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Like, where's the, like, notscripted bit?
Where's.
Where's you being you?
Like, you're not being you?
And I was like, okay.
That took another year tofigure out.
Also.
She said to me once thatsomething that, you know, she said,
joey, she was walking throughthe club, and I remember she just
kind of yelled at me, joey, quit.
You know, she said, quit something.

(38:08):
It was like it was in between shows.
She said, hey, Joe, just enjoythe journey.
Can you just do that for me?
Because I was asking, like,how many tickets have we sold?
And she's like, joe, justenjoy the journey.
And I.
At the time, I didn't knowwhat that meant.
And now I'm like, oh.
She's saying, like, joe, allof this is part of becoming the comic

(38:29):
that you want to be and thecomic that you'll grow into.
But you're not focused on that.
You're focused on all of these distractions.
You know, how many seats aresold, how many people are coming?
You know, what's the ticket price?
Like, quit doing that now.
That probably comes from mejust, you know, being in the music
business my whole life, andit's just, you know, it's just a

(38:51):
habit of mine to know, howmany tickets have we sold?
What's the cost of the event?
You know, I could just.
I just.
I just know that stuffbecause, you know, that's part of
the game, too, big time.
But her saying that to mereally made me go, you know what?
As a comic, I'm really goingto work on not worrying about those
distractions and really, forthe first time, focus on.

(39:13):
I just want to be.
I want to be the best comicthat I can be.
My goal every night is to bethe funniest comic on the bill.
That's my goal.
And that might sound arrogantbecause you're on great bills with
people, but I feel that, like, that's.
It's like.
It's like they talk about an aa.
It's like, you know, keepingyour side of the street clean.
They talk, you know, and.

(39:34):
And not that I'm in aa, but,you know, it's like, I just have
a lot of friends that are.
And I love that terminology.
I love everything about AAexcept the not drinking part, you
know, but.
Because it's like, dude,working the steps.
Oh, my God.
I joined Alan, and I rememberI had to work the steps.
And it was.
I was like, But I don't have aproblem with alcohol.
Well, you know, Al Anon's for,you know, Al Anon.
Al Anon is you join Al Anonwhen you have, you know, someone

(39:56):
in your life that has aproblem or a situation with drugs
or alcohol.
Okay.
So, you know, it's like, youknow, and it's.
It's great for, like, youknow, you may have a mother that
you never knew that, oh, wow.
You know, I've grown up with amother that you know is an alcoholic,
and I'm not an alcoholic.
But, like, you go to Al Anon, you're.
You get a chance to be a groupof people that are like, hey, man,

(40:18):
like, never had a problem withalcohol, but because the person that
was in my life did thesethings happen.
So you can kind of work outsolutions and.
And ways to get through that,those relationships.
But that was one of the thingsthat I took away from that to bring
into comedy was just like,really trying to be.
Trying to just be as most.

(40:39):
The most authentic version ofyourself as you possibly can on stage
and in life, which is super hard.
Yeah.
How do you do that?
It takes, dude.
It's so much work.
And you're always.
That's the thing.
I hate when she said, enjoythe Journey.
And.
And this is a bit.
I hate the band Journey.
I don't want to enjoy the Journey.
I hate that, man.
You know, like, it's.
I. I don't want to enjoy the journey.

(40:59):
I want it right now, you know,But I've learned now it doesn't work
that way.
You have to just.
For you to create the art thatyou want, you just have to get real
with yourself and you have to.
The funny comes from the honesty.
It's like, you know,everyone's heard the quote from prior.
That's where the honest.
That when you're honest, thefunny comes.

(41:19):
And as soon as I think youlook at yourself and start writing
from the heart and startwriting really, what is going on?
That's where the.
That's where we see the magicon stage, because the audience can
identify with.
They know the thing.
I mean, how many times weheard the comics go up, they're like,
you know, so I was in this threesome.
You're like, dude, you'venever been in a threesome.

(41:40):
Stop it.
You've seen my act.
Okay.
Yeah.
Do you know what I'm saying?
I'm clearly the guy that'slike, threesome.
Yeah.
But, you know, I'm just using.
You know what I'm saying?
People go on stage and theytalk about things that just aren't
real.
Exactly.
And you're like, dude, thatdidn't happen.
Right.
Even though it's getting alaugh, it didn't happen.
So, you know, obviously westretch the truth.

(42:00):
You know, you can have apremise that you're talking about
someone that, hey, maybe ithappened to this person.
But, you know, you Turn itinto, it happened to your son or
it happened to your dad.
And you're like, it's funnierthat way.
It doesn't make sense if it,it's, you know.
But I just feel like thatjourney and all that, that, those
things that I've learned, youknow, listening to the, you know,
Joe, listen to the audience,you know, you don't, you don't listen

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to the audience or, you know,you know, people saying, hey, enjoy
the journey.
You know, being on stage andreally dropping into that moment.
Those are the, those are thethings that I think are the.
That's like the thing.
Like as much as you can writematerial and you can do this and
you can do that, the materialand all that ain't going to work
if you're not doing thoseother things.
Enjoying the journey, tryingto find the honesty in your comedy

(42:44):
and also just digging deepbecause a lot of comics I see, you
know, sometimes they don'twant to write as much.
You should always, you know,you ought to always be writing, you
know, because it's easy to getan act, you know, and then you just
kind of lean on it.
Oh, for.
Yeah, I mean, that's, that'swhere I've been lately is like the
first.
I spent the first 10 years Iself produced a special on my 10

(43:05):
year anniversary and then thepandemic hit and now I'm at this
next kind of like evolution oflike, okay, well, I have that hour.
Now what now?
What do I talk about now?
Like, and that's hard.
Lean on that.
And that's hard.
Just no works.
That's hard.
Yep.
You know, it's super hard.
Yeah, but it's supposed to be.
Yeah.
Like, comedy is hard.
Yeah.
And it takes time.

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It's supposed to.
Yeah.
You know what, man?
I always say that anythingthat means anything in this world
is supposed to be hard.
Yeah, for sure.
And it's a grind.
You know, I was talking to,you know, John who, you know, hooked
me up with you to do this.
Yeah.
When you, when you say to acomic, unless you're like, you know,
a Bill Burr or, you know,Sebastian, it's like, you don't have
to ask those guys what's going on.
Like, if you run into Burr,you're not like, hey, dude, so what's

(43:46):
going on?
Everything's awesome.
You know, I'm in a private jetselling out huge.
You don't have to ask him thatbecause you know it.
Right.
Any other comic that is out onthe grind, if you say to them, hey,
what's going on.
If they're a true comic.
It's the.
We're both doing the same thing.
We're trying to write, we'retrying to get on bigger shows, we're
trying to get feature spots,we're trying to work out an hour,

(44:06):
we're trying to find a placeto work that hour out at.
At the same time, we're doingthis thing called social media.
We look at that, it eitherputs us in a good mood or a really
shitty mood.
We judge, we say, no way I'mhappy for him.
And then deep inside, no, I'mnot your jealousy, you know, it's
just, it's just, it's allthese emotions that go through.
You're trying to find themagic bullet that pushes your stand

(44:26):
up out there.
Then you question yourself,then you don't question yourself,
and then you write a new bitand then you do the new bit and then
you try to get more ofguarantee and then you're afraid
to ask for more of a guarantee.
And then you feel that you'rebeing lame.
And then you're like, maybe Ishould do a podcast.
And then if I do the podcast,more people will be my into my following.
And then if I have morefollowers, then they'll buy more
tickets, but then people willthink I bought my followers and I
got to make sure I didn't buythe followers.

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And there's the blue chip andeveryone's in.
They thought the blue chip was cool.
Now it's not cool.
And then I got to start aYouTube channel.
Oh, my God, I should do a podcast.
I don't have any of this gear.
Who would I do it with?
That's being a comic.
Yes, yes.
You just summed it all up.
And that's you every day inyour car alone.
There's.
I mean, it's like, it's not like.
I swear to God.

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I remember when I started,someone said to me, you don't want
to be a comic.
And I said, why?
They're all.
It's.
If you're not careful, it canbe sad.
And I was like, I'm not a saddude, but I see a lot of people go
down that rabbit hole and yougot it.
You can't, man, because it's asolo game and I'm used to being in
a band.
I'm used to four of us.
We get done with the show.
Dude, that was awesome.

(45:29):
You're all high fiving eachother and if it wasn't awesome, you
blame it on the other guy.
Like you get off stage.
Like, dude, I don't know whatyou were doing during our third song,
but, you know, learn how toplay this song.
You can blame it on that.
Dude.
That wasn't on me.
Dude, when you get off stagedoing stand up, you only have yourself
to high five y and you onlyhave yourself to say, you suck.
You're just in the green roomeating chicken fingers alone.

(45:49):
Yeah.
For better.
And that's the other thing, though.
I'm not going to be one ofthose guys that come on here and
be like, oh, dude, it's so hard.
It is not.
Dude, I am so stoked I'm here tonight.
It's.
I'm very grateful to be a comedian.
So, so grateful.
So.
And you know, and it's alsolike, either you're a comic or you're
not.
I think Jerry Seinfeld said that.
You'll know.
Yeah, either.
He said, like, I don't care ifyou're doing.
I don't care if you're doingroom 100 people, and I don't care
if I'm doing a thousand people.

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Either you're a comic oryou're not.
Either you're in the game andyou're a lifer or you're not.
And I know for me, I'm.
I'm in the game.
This is what I do.
And I.
And I love it and I'm gratefulfor it and I'm going to keep doing
it.
And all.
And all that I want to do,though, is be the, the best version
of myself on stage.
I want to write the best material.
I want to be the best comic.
I want to, you know, I, I dowant to treat every show that.

(46:31):
It's like the, the last showor it's the last spot.
And some people think that'ssilly, but I don't care anymore.
I'm like, you know what, dude?
I've gotten this far in mylife with that attitude.
I'm gonna keep doing it.
Yeah.
And this comedy grind now isthat DIY self.
I love it.
It reminds me of punk rock, dude.
I.
So funny you say that.
That's one of the things thatdrew me into it was I was like, this

(46:52):
is punk rock, everyone.
Dude, you got the Mark Normansthat, you know, they put their special
out on their own.
Boom.
I love that you got the Mattrifes just like, all right, you know,
you know, we all know that story.
You know, he's trying to putone nighters between Milwaukee and
Chicago.
He can't even get paid.
And then all of A sudden, youknow, onlyfans comes out.
Boom.

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Love it.
It's there.
You work hard, you write goodmaterial, you're a good person.
That's.
That's all you can do.
And that.
That's.
That's.
And I love it.
And I do feel it's punk rockbecause there's no rules anymore.
There's no gatekeepers anymore.
Whether it's YouTube, whetherit's, you know, your podcast, whether
it's moments like this.
Back in the day, we couldn'thave a moment like this.

(47:34):
It'd be like, all right, youneed to talk to so and so, and let's
see if you're on the podcast now.
You know, now today we'redoing this, and, you know, hopefully
someone listens and goes, allright, I took something from that.
That's.
That's my goal.
Yep.
That's the whole goal of thiswhole show, man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Dude, I. I was just gonna sayI didn't tell the Dane Cook story.
Oh, yeah.
I was gonna get to it.
Okay, cool.
Yeah, yeah.
So we.
We can get to it.

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Because I was just gonna.
Okay, we're.
We're about to.
We're landing the plane.
Land in the plane, bro.
So we can get into Dan.
Hear about Jim some as well, too.
Yeah.
What do you want?
Yeah, but let's do the DanCook one.
Let's do.
You're gonna like the DaneCook story because it's also, like,
punk rock, too.
Okay, cool.
Okay.
Yeah.
Alkaline trio.
Yes.
Fan.
Yes.
Matt Skiba.
Well, I was.
I was.
I went through skater phase inmiddle school.

(48:16):
Okay.
I have the scars to prove thatI was a husky kid.
Skateboarding.
Skateboard.
Royal trucks don't want to flex.
Yeah.
Fire Spitfire wheels.
I don't remember the bearings,but I was into skateboarding, and
then I just fell way too much.
Okay.
So skateboarding is like.
And the punk rock.
I was all into all that.
Yeah.
So for me, skateboarding grewup in the.
I grew up in the Bay Area, SanJose, and I was in the right place

(48:38):
at the right time.
You know, it's just like, I. Igrew up with Steve Caballero, you
know, for the Bones Brigade.
Him and I still friends tothis day.
That's awesome.
Mike McGill.
You know, I was there.
I got to see everyone skate,from Christian Osoy to Billy Ruff
to, you know, obviously, SteveCaballero, Tony Hawk, you know, Steve

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Stedham, Kevin Stop.
Like any legendary Pro in the 80s.
Rob Rostikoff, Jeff Kendall,Corey O'.
Brien.
I mean, I saw Lance Mountain Imean, I saw everyone fun, and.
And I also.
I got to participate, youknow, not skating in sessions with
them, but, like, being at thepark and skating, you know, watching
them.
So I was watching them try tojust win a trick.

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It's like a comedian trying to figure.
Out a joke over and over andover and over.
It's incredible.
So for me, skateboarding hassuch a special place for me.
And.
And recently, which was atrip, the Bones Brigade all is.
You know, it was basicallyStacy Peralta, who founded the Bones
Brigade, George Powell fromPAL Peralta.
And then you had SteveCaballero, you had Lance Mountain,

(49:43):
you had Tony Guerrero.
Tommy Guerrero.
Wait, Tony.
Tony Guerrero.
Tommy Guerrero.
Sorry.
Tony's his brother.
Tommy Guerrero, he had Tony Hawk.
And then you had Rodney Mullen.
Steve Caballero.
And basically, they did anevent where people pay a large amount
of money to have the Bones Brigade.
All those legendary skaters in a.

(50:04):
In a room where they have,like, a dinner, and then after the
dinner, they do a questionsand answer, and Stacy Peralta, who
founded the team, hosts it,and they asked me to open the show
up.
Yeah.
And that was in November.
Mike McGill called me, and hewas like, hey, you know, Mike McGill

(50:24):
and Steve Caballero would cometo see me do stand up, and there'd
be times where I'd just be in the.
You know, I'm like, are thosetwo guys really watching me here
do standup?
And they would bring theirfriends and their girlfriends, and
it was just.
It was awesome.
But when I got asked to hostthis event, it was seriously, like,
you know, I've had amazing opportunities.
You know, I toured with JimBrewer and Metallica.

(50:46):
That was a whole amazing tour.
But getting the chance towelcome those guys on stage and do
20 minutes about the BonesBrigade and skateboarding was one
of the highest points of my career.
Like, I was in this beautifulhotel, and.
And it was great because I wason stage, and the place was packed
with all the people for the event.
And now, for everyonelistening, if you're not a fan of

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skateboarding right now,you're probably.
It's like.
It's like when Rogan talksabout ufc.
If you're not into that,you're like, okay, fast forward.
But my Polar Plunge.
Yeah, yeah, my.
Yeah, dude.
Ice Plunge, which I recently did.
Have you done Ice Plunge?
I have before.
Yeah.
Not lately.
I recently started doing that.
It's pretty rad.
You get high from it?
Oh, absolutely.
You're buzzing after.
Absolutely.
So then when I did this, itwas pretty amazing.

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I was doing my.
Doing my set.
And the Bones Brigade weresupposed to be in another room.
And then I was going to bringthem on stage, but they started hearing
me through the wall and thenthey all were at the end of the room
watching me.
So there was this moment, ifyou would have told me 12 year old,
you know, Joe Sebiondo atWinchester Skateboard park would
be entertaining and talkingabout the Bones Brigade with all

(51:50):
of them there watching me, itwas like, it was seriously a highlight.
I'll never forget, like that.
The.
The visual of them watching meand laughing, seeing Tony Hawk laugh.
Laugh, like making Tony Hawk laugh.
There's a photo on myInstagram, if you go to it, there's
a picture of all of them andI'm like holding the board and it
was a highlight.
Lance Mountain, all those guys.

(52:11):
That's awesome.
And then, you know, and I dida bit on each guy and.
And it was just so amazing,you know, skateboarding everything
to me.
So, okay, the Dane Cook story.
Yes.
Alkaline Trail.
So that's how I was like, how.
Did we get off on that?
But it was Alkaline.
Okay, so check it out.
And then.
So there was a moment in time.
Matt Skiba, great friend,super solid dude, and just, you know,

(52:33):
always been super, super great.
Alkaline Trio.
I used to do this rock to rollbenefit where we raised money for
wheelchairs.
Alkaline Trio Trio played it,donated all the money.
Solid band, solid guys.
At this point, I think they'reon hiatus, they're not doing something.
And Matt Skiba is in la andhe's just.
He's just hanging out, youknow, and he finds out I'm doing

(52:53):
standup comedy and he's like,I'm gonna come to your show.
So he comes a couple times and.
And at one point, I was doinga show where I incorporated magic
and then like music and then comedy.
And it was called the BareBones show and it was at the Laugh
Factory.
And I'm doing the show.
And that was when, you know,comics at the Laugh Factory were
doing my show, Bare Bones.
So, like, we'd have music andthen we'd have a magician and then
we'd have all these amazing comics.

(53:14):
So this one particular night,Matt's gonna play music acoustic,
you know, Matt Skiba fromAlkaline Trio.
Place is packed.
And he shows up.
And when he shows up, I cantell he's had a couple cocktails.
And I'm like, oh, that's fine.
He'll be fine.
And then as the nightprogresses, you Know, the first act
goes up, second act goes up.
Now all of a sudden, MattSkiba has to go up.

(53:35):
Now Matt at this point isbackstage and he's hanging out with.
Hanging out with all of thecomics that are there.
Finesse Mitchell was on theshow that night.
Dane Cook was on the show with it.
Dom Aero was on the show.
I think Peter Pete, or sorry,Tosh was there.
Daniel Tosh.
Yeah.
Like, everyone's there becauseit was the show to go to.

(53:58):
Everyone's there.
We're all backstage.
Matt Skiba's hanging out witheveryone, and he's shooting the.
With Dane and he's talking toDane and they're having great conversations
and they're all in theupstairs and Finesse.
Everyone's just talking to mybuddy that plays guitar.
And, you know, Matt Skiba is apretty big dude.
He's tall, and Dane's a prettybig dude.
So, like, if I'm standingthere, I'm the shortest, right?
That's a key moment to thewhole thing.

(54:19):
Thing.
So Matt Skiba goes up on stageand he's playing.
And no dismat, because we've talk.
We joke about it now.
He was annihilated, dude.
And he's.
He's.
He's just like, not playingthe songs.
It's not connecting.
And then he decides, I'm goingto be a comedian.
Oh.
And you know how that is.
Yeah.

(54:39):
You know, civilian going inthe comedy world.
And I'm kind of like, allright, where's this going to go?
And then all of a sudden,while he's on stage, he starts just
busting out these.
These jokes that are so not jokes.
And then starts morphing it into.
I was hanging out with DaneCook, and, you know, my.
My roommate used to listen toyou, and then he killed himself or

(55:01):
something like that.
And the room just goes dark.
And I'm like sitting there.
And at that moment, I'll neverforget Finesse Mitch goes, you better
get your boy off stage.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I'm like.
And all it's going through myhead is I'm like, I just.
Just started stand up and it'sgoing to be over this quick.
Like, I. I realized I'm all.
Jamie's like, buddy, what isgoing on?
Your friend?
Get him out.
So then it was a joke, dude.
Like, I had to, like.

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I had to, like, go on the sideof the stage, which was awkward while
he's trying to play songs and.
And I had to go up.
And as he's just digging ahole deeper and deeper and deeper.
I just go up, and I put myhand on the neck of his guitar, and
I go, ladies and gentlemen,Matt Skiba.
And Matt looks at me like, what?
I. I thought I was crushing,you know, And I'm like, okay.
So then I get Matt, and we gobackstage, and every comic is like,

(55:45):
what the hell are you doing, dude?
You're bagging on the club.
You're bagging on us, and.
And everyone.
And I'll never forget, by thetime I got backstage, Dane and Matt
were just, you know, talkingto each other, and.
And they were just.
They were just like.
They weren't, like, gonnafight or anything, but, like, I thought
in my head, I'm like.
Like, oh, my God.

(56:05):
Like, what am I gonna do?
Like, Matt's my bro.
Like, I can't, you know, Ican't let this end bad.
And.
And he's.
He's being surrounded by allthese guys, and they're just going,
dude.
And Matt's going, I thought itwas cool.
Like, I thought that's whatyou do.
And, you know, and I'm tryingto convince Matt.
I'm like, dude, it's theequivalent of, like, going to CBGB's
and saying, the Ramones suckand this place sucks.
Like, you just can't.

(56:26):
It's like going into a churchand just, you know, doing something
gnarly, you know, like, you just.
And he's like.
I thought he's sitting therelike that.
And then this is Dane.
It's like a circle of us, youknow, it's Dom Herrera, it's Tosh.
It's, you know, finesse Mitchell.
And then me and then, you know.
Yeah.
And Dane Cook goes, dude, lookaround the room right now.

(56:48):
Look around your room.
You're surrounded.
Comedian.
He points at Dom.
Comedian points at Tosh.
Comedian.
Push it.
Finessel points at me, and I'mlike, oh, he's gonna call me a comedian?
He goes, well, you know whatI'm talking about.
And I'm like, dude, I.
Like, I was so close.
Yeah.
He doesn't call me a comic,you know, kind of like, yeah, you're

(57:08):
one of those.
Like, yeah.
And I'm like, I was so bummed.
Oh, I was so bummed.
And then I remember, you know,Matt apologized, and Dane was like,
it's cool.
All right.
You know, just, next time,don't do that.
You know?
But it was one of thosemoments where I was like, oh, I was
so close.
And he.
He was sure to almost be like,go all, dude.
He went around the room.

(57:29):
He Looked at each guy.
There was five of us, and Iwas right.
There he goes.
Look around the room right now.
Look at who is here.
You got Dom, a rare.
He's a legendary comedian.
You got a comedian.
You got a comedian.
You got a comedian.
You got.
Okay.
You know what I'm saying?
He, like, looked right at melike, I'm not gonna give it to you,
bro.
Oh, dang.
Like, that's.
That's the great thing about comics.
Even in the heat of themoment, he won't give it to you.

(57:50):
Yeah, of course.
You know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I remember.
I. I seriously thought that itwas over.
But you know what?
I realized that night, too?
It was such a huge learningcurve, because in the world of music,
something like that goes downon stage, it is over.
The venue doesn't want youthere anymore.
The.
The clubs bombed.
The promoters bombed.

(58:10):
Like, dude, that was totallyunprofessional what happened on stage.
And that was the first nightthat I realized in comedy, when stuff
like that happens, it's just.
That's magical.
The audience, it gives them tobe like, dude, you got to stop them
playing guitar.
So and so got mad at him.
He didn't know what to do.
It was so awesome.

(58:31):
And the club loves it, too.
Like, no one's like.
Like, I remember the next day,Jamie, I was like, oh, God, I'm gonna
call from, you know, the club.
And no one even called me.
I just came back a monthlater, and it was like, it never
even happened.
Buddy, you bring in your body.
Buddy, you bring it.
Don't bring.
You know, I think he did sayno more guitar.
I was like, all right.
He's like, no more.
No more scabba with the.
I'm a skiba.
No more scabba.
Just.

(58:51):
No more.
No more sca.
Like Scott.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Thank you for sharing that.
Yeah.
I don't know.
That's.
I don't know.
I've never told that story.
Yeah.
My one interaction with Dane,I did a video essay about him because
I wanted to tell his storybecause he does get a lot of negativity
online, and I was like, I wantpeople to understand where he came
from and, like, how he got towhere he is.

(59:12):
So I made this.
I made this video essay, and Iwas super psyched, and I sent it
to him first, and he just sawthe thumbnail, and he.
He was like, call me.
And he.
And the thumbnail was kind ofclickbaity in hindsight, and I changed
it, and it's all.
We're all good now.
But Like.
Like, he gave me his number,and we Talked for, like, 30.
Like, oh, that's.
This is randomly at, like,10:30 at night.
It's totally him.
We talked for, like, 30minutes, and he's like, you.

(59:33):
You're.
You're like.
He's like, I know you'retrying to help.
He's like, this thumbnail'snot helping it.
It's negative like everythingelse, which is the opposite of what
you're trying to do.
And he's like, you could dosomething very special like Johnny
Carson would do in showcasing comedians.
He's like, you can do thatwith this.
And he, like.
He wasn't mean.
He was, like, very encouragingof, like, you, like, you can make
this better type deal.
Yeah.
And that always stuck with me.

(59:53):
He took.
Took time, like, on a weekdayat 10:30 to be like, I don't know
this guy, but I want to help him.
And I was like, yeah.
Whoa.
Well, you know, comics, Ithink comics, you know, for the most
part, you know, the.
The.
The people, they want to helpeach other.
Yeah.
It's just the people thatactually take the time to throw the
number out there and pick itup and do the call.
Yeah.
This is how we started thiswhole thing of, like, comics helping

(01:00:14):
comics.
Yeah.
I mean, I wouldn't be here.
I wouldn't be on tour doingthis if it wasn't for Jim Brewer.
I mean, he gave me a shot, gotopening up for him, and it was such
a random opportunity, and itjust turned into, hey, man, you can
come on the road with me.
Did he see you at a show?
No, not at all.
I stayed in touch with his publicist.
So this is.

(01:00:34):
This is what I did was, isthat I met his publicist in la.
Randomly ran.
No, no, his.
I was on a. I was a friend ofa friend of mine.
Chris Shiflett from the FooFighters was interviewing Jim on
his podcast, and I had a deal.
They came to.
They came to side one to do it there.
So his publicist came.
I met his publicist, thiswoman named Amy, super cool.

(01:00:55):
And I was like, God, I'd loveto open for Jim.
And she's like, stay in touch.
I was like, okay.
So I just stayed in touch, and I.
But I.
You know, every month I'd lookat Jim's schedule, and I'd be like,
hey, I'm gonna be out in Chicago.
And, you know, the 18th ofApril, like, if Jim doesn't have
an opener, which I wasn'tgonna be out there, but I would just
be like, I'll go right, youknow, oh, no, we've got someone.
Okay, just stay in touch.

(01:01:16):
Stay in touch.
And then it just came to thepoint where they came through the
West Coast.
They didn't have an opener.
I went to the show where I gotasked to open.
She's like, hey, can you openSan Diego?
I said, sure.
At the point.
At that point, my dad wasliving in San Diego, and I brought
my dad.
I told my dad, stay in mydressing room.
I gotta go to the front, youknow, box office.
I came back, he's eating asandwich and drinking coffee with
Jim, spitting food on Jim.

(01:01:37):
Like, Jim's just getting salami.
He just looks at me and Jimstarts laughing.
He's all, hey, I met your dad.
You must be Joe.
And I'm like, what's up?
He's like, I love your dad.
And then after the show, hewas like, hey, man, I'm doing another
show in a couple months out here.
Would you like to open?
I said, sure.
And then I remember we went todinner and he was like, hey, man,
I gotta say, like, you know,any dude that would bring his dad
to the show was just a thumbsup in my book.

(01:01:59):
He's all, as long as you don'tbomb, you know, if you want to.
If you want to open up, I'llgive you the slot.
And I was like, like, all right.
And it was a game changer.
And now you've been on theroad with him ever since?
Yeah, I've been on the roadwith him a lot.
You know, he's given me a lotof opportunities, man.
Just.
It's been amazing.
I mean, I have.
I just have nothing, but, youknow, I'm so grateful and so thankful.
He's just been such a solid,solid human being.

(01:02:22):
Been a great friend to me.
Really great friend.
You know, he, you know, andalso just gave me opportunities that
a lot of people don't give toother people.
Like, we're talking about,like, when he got asked to go on
the tour with Metallica, hesaid, hey, man, they said I could
bring someone else.
Would you want to go?
You know?
And when he got offered thetour, too, I was like, he's like,
what do you think, man?
They want me to go out.
They're not going to bring a band.
And in my head, I was like,what a nightmare.

(01:02:44):
Insane.
Yeah.
I was like, dude, yeah.
You know, he's like, do youthink I should do it?
I'm like, yeah, I just wantedto go because I just want to see
the show, you know?
Right.
And Then he's like, hey, dude,they said I could bring someone.
Do you want to go?
And I'm like, totally.
You know, I'm like, I'm in.
And we did that.
It was amazing.
We did the.
We were the opening act forsix months, 30 shows.
It was a game changer.

(01:03:05):
Yeah.
It was like, one week on, oneweek off for six months.
And the crowds were receptive.
At the beginning.
No, the first show.
And right now, anyone that wasthere will be like, no, dude, at
the beginning, we had one showin Madison, Wisconsin, that was.
That was.
That was not what we.
We were still trying to figureout what we were gonna do.
Because the problem was, isthat we were so psyched we were going
on tour with Metallica.

(01:03:26):
We never planned anything.
You know, we would just gettogether, be like, oh, my God, we're
drinking beers.
It's like, I can't believewe're going.
I wonder if they'll play this,you know, we were more worried about
that, putting together a show.
So we did the Madison,Wisconsin show.
We got through it, you know,by the skin of our teeth.
And then the next show is in Minneapolis.
We had two days.
And I went down to Jim thenext morning.
I said, bro, I didn't sleep.

(01:03:46):
My kids were like, don't go onthe Internet.
So gnarly.
And I was like, people werelike, just not feeling it.
And.
But Jim was like, dude, youknow, who cares?
Like, we'll figure it out.
And I was like, jim, you know, we.
We can't do what we did last night.
He goes, yeah, I know.
Let's.
That's why you're here.
Like, this is your world.
I'm a comedian.
Your world is shows.
Your world is this.

(01:04:07):
Like, that's why you're here, dude.
Put together.
Let's put together a show.
Like, let's sit down.
And then we just literally puttogether the show we ended up doing,
and we learned, you know, howto start it, where to go with it.
And at that point, too, Jimwas, like, at first, not feeling.
Doing stand up.
It was weird.
He was like, not weird, but wejust both felt they don't want to
see stand up.
They.

(01:04:27):
They're not coming for that.
And then what ended up happening?
Because the Stern and because of.
Of Rogan and because of allthe he'd done.
Everyone knew he was aMetallica fan.
Everyone knew the Slayer bit.
Everyone knew the.
So everyone was getting thereearly because Lars from Metallica
told us straight up.
He's like, you know, just soyou guys know, like, you Know, the
venue won't even be full.
You know, maybe there'll be1500 people there.

(01:04:47):
Maybe, you know, these 20,000 seaters.
That was not the case.
Every single night packed.
We.
I would come out on stage at 7o' clock and it was full.
It was not a thousand people.
And I remember they were.
And that's when I, you know,when I and Jim figured out, dude,
they're here to see you dostand up.
So he.
We went from, like, not doinga stand up section.

(01:05:10):
Not my stand.
They didn't want to see mine.
But they, they, they were there.
And Jim was doing between, youknow, 35 to 45 minutes of stand up
because he had all the material.
Dude, were you doing anything?
What I was doing was this.
So I was.
I basically was the mc.
Okay, cool.
I was your host.
Gotcha.
I came out.
What's up, everybody?
Welcome to Atlanta.
Tonight, Metallica's in the house.
All right, cool.

(01:05:30):
I'm gonna play any music thatyou guys want to hear.
Anything you want to hear.
Text to this number, tell mewhat you want to hear.
You want to hear priests?
You want to hear Pantera?
Anything you want to hear, I'myour guy.
You want to hear some exodus,Boom, I'm your guy.
We got Jim Brewer in the house.
All right, cool, man.
We got a great night for youguys tonight.
Right now.
We're going to kick it offwith the only band that can start
this night.
Ladies and gentlemen, screamreal loud so he can hear you.
Let's scream so loud.

(01:05:50):
Lemmy can hear you.
Here's Motorhead.
Boom.
I go into Motorhead.
Beautiful.
Because I knew if I playedMotorhead, no one could talk.
No one could.
Because, you know, it's Motorhead.
If you're.
You cannot.
I don't care if you're into,you know, Slayer.
I don't care if you're into AC dc.
You're like, okay, Motorhead's the.
So then, boom, I come out withMotorhead and then I just started

(01:06:11):
playing requests.
And then I did that for halfhour, got the audience fired up and
then brought Jim out.
And that's where he'd do asection of stand up.
And then he would bail.
And then we'd go back to music.
So we go in, we go out, we goin, we go out.
And then we did some stuffbackstage with the band.
We did some stuff with the fans.

(01:06:31):
And then.
And then it just.
It just.
It all.
It all grew and grew tobasically this huge karaoke session
that we would do at the veryend we were like, look, Jim would
be like, I just was backstagewith the band.
They're warmed up, but youguys got to warm up.
And I'm.
We're.
Joe, Joe, Joe.
Do you got the songs?
Yeah, I got them.
Jim, we're gonna play likefive songs.
And if you don't know thewords to these songs, you're at the

(01:06:52):
wrong show.
You have to leave immediately.
And then, boom.
You know, and you gottaremember we had all the bells and
whistles.
There's huge jumbo screens.
So everyone's seeing Jim,everyone's seeing me.
And then we went into like six songs.
And it would start right outwith like, you know, Judas Priest
and has a video.
Has like, you know, Rob Halford.
And then had the lyrics tolike, you know.
You know, heading out to the High.

(01:07:13):
You know, Then it go rightfrom that into AC DC with Bon Scott.
And they would go right, youknow, so the crowd now is all singing
along and they're fired up.
And then it would end with.
It would end with.
What was the last.
I think it was highway toHell, AC dc.
And then Jim would leave andgo, all right, man, I'm gonna leave.
And when I come back, I'll have.
I'll have it.
I'll have Metallica with me.
And then he would split andthen we'd play more music and he'd

(01:07:34):
come back.
I could stop the music.
Stop.
All right, ladies andgentlemen, are you ready?
Thank you so much for beinghere tonight.
Ladies and gentlemen, Metallica.
And then he'd bring him out.
So we.
We were like, smart.
Yeah, we.
We were.
You know, it was like we were,you know, we were like, just building
it up and building it up, butin a way that it was like we weren't
overbearing.
And then I.

(01:07:55):
You know, we knew to get inand get out because the first night
we didn't do that.
We went on stage at 6:30 andgot off at 9:30.
You too?
Yeah, just me and Jim.
We hold the record for thelongest opening act ever for Metallica.
And it was just two dudes, noinstruments, two Apple computers.
Yeah, yeah, we, we up.
It was Bomb city right there.

(01:08:16):
Not Bomb City.
Not bomb It.
You know what, man?
It depends.
You have Jim on the show.
Be like, ah, dude, Joe's out.
He's.
But he didn't have to be onstage the whole time.
I was.
You had to stand in it.
Oh, no, he had.
Because that night he stillhad back then.
It was in the round and he.
And he was like, yeah, dude, IWant you to.
He.
We were all like, you'll DJfrom being on stage.
So the first night, there wasonly one night.

(01:08:36):
I DJed the entire night on stage.
So Jim was coming and going.
I had to stay up there andjust absorb people flipping me off
for hours.
Children, children flipping me off.
Their parents teaching themhow to swear, how to just how to
look angry.

(01:08:56):
Like little kids, kids, women,mothers, like, straight up, you know,
just milfs just so bummed at me.
And I.
And then Jim's like, dude, whydon't you just act out the song you
play made and dance around.
I'm like, dude, I'm not actingout Phantom of the opera.
That's a 12 minute song.
That's your department, bro.
He's like, yeah.

(01:09:17):
And then, you know, then itwas just.
It was just.
It wasn't that we bombed, butit just went on for so long.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So the next night I was like,and I remember that night ago.
I am never DJing on that stageever again.
I go, I want to be down in the audience.
Put me back by the sound booth.
Put me up on a little riser.
But I cannot be on stage,dude, because, you know, everyone's
looking at me.

(01:09:37):
And they were like, okay,we'll do that.
So that was a game changer.
I was.
There's one picture of me somewhere.
I. I should give it to you guys.
Where I.
Where Jim and I are both onstage and I'm just like, I got the
readers on and I'm just lost.
I remember it went so bad thatnight that I. I remember when Jim
finally, when we broughtMetallica on stage, grabbed my wallet

(01:09:57):
and my.
I.
Because my wallet was with meon stage.
And I grabbed my wallet and.
And I left all my gear on stage.
I'm like, I'm out of here.
I'm done.
I don't care.
I'm not.
I go, dude, I. I grabbed my stuff.
I was ready to leave.
It was the first night of the tour.
I went backstage and Jim'slike laughing.
He's like, oh, dude, we got towork on that.
And I'm like, I'm out of here.
And he starts laughing.

(01:10:17):
That's the thing.
He every.
Everything him is a joke.
The more pissed I got, themore stressed I got.
He just made him laugh harder.
I'm like, dude, you're notfeeling that?
He's like, dude, don't worryabout it, man.
We'll figure it out.
And we did.
He.
It's a different animal, though.
I'm not that Guy I, you know.
Yeah.
His show is.
It's almost like he bringsalmost the energy of a rock show.
Like, totally.
You guys work.

(01:10:38):
Last time you were here, like,he did like 75 minutes of non stop
laughs.
Done.
I'm just watching it, like.
Is that where the bar is?
Yeah.
I haven't seen someone killthat hard for that.
That's him before.
That's him.
Yeah.
You know.
Yeah, it's.
That's why, you know, like Isaid, that's why you never.
I mean, if there's one lastthing, because I know there's, like,

(01:10:58):
a lot of young comics thatwatch it and, you know, hopefully
you guys enjoyed our banter,but I don't know, the thing I've
learned, honestly, Joel, isthat, like, it never turns out the
way that you think it's goingto turn out.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
It never, ever.
You.
You.
You work this way, trying tomake this happen.

(01:11:19):
Whether it's in arelationship, whether it's being
a dad, whether it's being amom, whether it's being a friend,
whether it's a career.
You go through life and youhave all these visions of, this is
how it's going to be.
This is how it's going to play out.
This is where I'm going to bewhen I'm this age.
This is where I'm going to be.
You have to have those visionsand those beliefs and try to obtain

(01:11:39):
those things and make them happen.
But what I've realized is youcan try and do all those things,
it never goes down the way youthink it's going to go down.
And generally, if you do havea plan, it goes down a better way.
But if you.
If you don't have a plan, thennothing happens.
But I've just learned, like,you know, when I was in my band,
I was convinced I'm going toopen for Metallica in my band.

(01:12:02):
You know, like, I'm.
Yeah, my band.
We're going to open for Metallica.
That's what we're going to be doing.
If you would have told me, then.
No, no, no, no.
You're going to go out andyou're going to tour with Metallica.
Oh, yeah, of course I know that.
No, but you don't understand.
You're gonna tour withMetallica as part of the opening
act with Jim Brewer.
No.
And you're gonna be DJing.
No.
Oh.
And throw this in.
You're gonna be doing, like,comedy and, like, giveaways and,

(01:12:25):
like, you know, tellingstories about.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
What?
I would have never, everthought of that.
I would be like, no, I'm gonnabe in the opening act playing, like,
band singing.
No.
So it just goes to prove itnever, ever turns out the way that
you think it's gonna turn or not.
Yeah.
And just being open toopportunities, you got to be trying
to be as authentic as possiblethrough all.

(01:12:46):
Just like we said, you know,about half an hour ago.
It's just.
Just opening up and being.
Being aware of trying to be,you know, the best version of yourself
on stage.
Yep.
You know, I don't know whosaid it, but it's like some comics
will say, like, yeah, man, Ikill on stage.
And, you know, I. I kill onstage, but I'm terrible at life.
I forgot which comic said that.
You know, there's a lot like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But it's like, you got to workon both, you know, and that's all

(01:13:08):
we're trying to do, you know,you're just trying to.
Trying to.
Trying to do it.
I'm a total work in progressright now.
It's like, you know, and whatI realized is that it's just a work.
You're always working on stuff.
See, I thought you worked onstuff, and then it's done, and you
don't have to work on it anymore.
It.
And now I'm learning.
I talked to my dad, you know,and he's up there.
You know, I doubt he's gonnawatch this, but he's 83.

(01:13:31):
Sorry, dad.
He hates when I say his age.
Gets so bummed.
You know, there's ageism, andI just don't appreciate that.
But this guy's publishingarticles, he's teaching.
He just got married, he tour,he goes out on the road.
He's an animal.
He's 83.
And I'm like, he's such an inspiration.

(01:13:51):
And he said, joey, I'm tellingyou right now, the last 30 years
of my life are amazing.
You know, and it's because hejust still is putting art out there,
still writing, still puttingit out there.
So, you know.
Well, thank you so much fortaking the time, dude.
Thanks for having me, genuinely.
Did we go too long?

(01:14:11):
No.
Okay.
No, we did.
Yeah, we did.
Great.
Okay.
Yeah, I know we went a littlelong than I told you, but it's all
good.
We had a little momentumthere, and I appreciate you going
the extra.
Did I touch base on everything?
We nailed it.
Cool.
Yeah, we nailed it.
Hey, and if anyone wants toget a hold of me.
Yeah, I was gonna say, I'llgive you my email, Joe Sibcomedy
Gmail.
Hit me up.
You know, if you got anyquestions, follow me on Instagram,

(01:14:33):
it's Joe Sib and Facebook, JoeSib and Joe Sib.com and come out
to a show and it'd be nice.
Yeah.
See what we talked about today live.
Beautiful.
Thanks for having me, man.
Thanks.
I really appreciate it.
That was super fun.
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